Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:111 What was that?

Episode Date: June 8, 2015

Many encounters with Sasquatch happen so fast, it leaves people thinking "What was that?" One of the encounters on Sunday will be with a witness who saw one run across the road, jump and clear a 6 foo...t embankment. The witness and her husband were shocked by the size of the creature. The witness describes how the creature moved on all fours and the "hair" on the body. The second witness writes "My boyfriend and I were living about 10 miles east of Huntsville, Texas on a private property with three lakes in the Big Thicket. One night my boyfriend asked me to go get his wallet out of my truck that was parked just below the deck. I immediately had a very uneasy feeling like never before??? I asked him to go instead. He said he would stand on the deck and watch since he did not have his shoes on. I have never been afraid of the dark since it was around 9PM. I finally agreed and walked down to my truck. As my hand grabbed the door, the truck began to vibrate and shake like a 7.2 earthquake!! I was immediately paralyzed but managed to let out a blood curtailing scream as I saw a giant hairy blob jump out of the back of my truck. It seemed to fly all the way across the railroad tracks. This creature filled the entire bed of the truck and I was about one foot from it! My eyes were looking but my body was frozen. I never thought Bigfoot or Sasquatch. We thought it may have been a bear but there were never any sightings of bears there although my boyfriend had mentioned he had tossed his left over hamburger in the bed. We looked for tracks but I explained to my boyfriend that it seems to fly all the way across the railroad tracks landing on the other side."

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Five, five, four, four, three, three, two, one, one. When I had come down this hill, I had seen this creature cross the road. They would have ripped my locked door from my truck, extracted me from my vehicle, and there wasn't a damn thing I could have done about it. This thing I got to notice in its eyes. His eyes was real, real evil, real sinister looking. The look it was given.
Starting point is 00:00:56 See ya. Get somebody out here. It's about six. Yes, I'm working right at him. I'm to Sasquatch Chronicles, a place where people share their encounters. Let's start the show. Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Really appreciate it on a Sunday night.
Starting point is 00:02:03 I hope you all are having a great weekend, and I'm glad you could be here tonight. Got an interesting show coming up. Before I actually get into the show for tonight, I want to talk about something real quick with the audience. after Woody and I had our encounter, I desperately wanted to know what these things were. What is it that we saw? And I desperately wanted to know what is this thing. And you can hear from other people who've had an encounter with these things.
Starting point is 00:02:34 It's such a shell shock. A lot of people will ask that question. That's a very first question they ask, what is it? What is it that I saw? And from all of the witnesses we've had on the show, police officers, people in different positions of power that have come forward, hunters, people driving and have one cross the road. The very first thing that comes up is, what was that?
Starting point is 00:02:59 What is this thing? It was a question I, that was one of my, the question I desperately wanted to answer. So I kind of would sit and listen to what everyone had to say, and I heard everything from these things are the Nephilim to, spirit creatures, to apes, to friendly forest giants, to these are a tribe of people, everything that you could think of under the sun, I've heard. And in the very beginning, I would ask people, well, why do you think that? Why do you believe that?
Starting point is 00:03:30 Why do you think that about these things? And then they would give you their two cents on what they thought. And the more people I've had on the show and the witnesses I've spoken with, you start to get a clear picture really of what this thing is. And now this isn't my own opinion. It may not be your opinion, but this is my opinion. You get a clear picture of what this thing is. And their behavior is very animalistic.
Starting point is 00:03:55 You see the screaming, the yelling, the different vocalizations that they do, the throwing of rocks. And it would appear that they're scat in the forest or they crap in the forest. So you start to get a real clear picture. that you're dealing with a very wild animal, but a very intelligent wild animal, a primate, non-human primate. So you get a clear picture of what you're looking at.
Starting point is 00:04:21 This is a non-human primate out there running around, a wild animal. And when you talk to the people who have been very up close and personal with these things, it growls at them, or it has some other animalistic quality or behavior that it does. when people get it really up close and personal with these things. So it is my opinion that we're dealing with the wild animal.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Now, having said that, when I very first got into this, people would come forward and say, these are the Nephilim. And I would say, well, why do you think they're the Nephlem? Well, in the Bible, did Nephlem are described as giants that ruled the earth? When people see these things, they think giant. It's a giant. They've come across. So they put two and two together and say,
Starting point is 00:05:10 hey, this is what Sasquatch is. A lot of researchers behind the scenes and in private, they'll never say it publicly, but they will say they think these things are probably the Nephilim. And you ask them why, and they say the same thing. Well, they're giant, they're giant, humanoid beings that run around the forest, which is obviously what is talked about in ancient text.
Starting point is 00:05:36 So for a long time, I've been thinking about doing a show, about the nephalum. Not because I think Sasquatch is a nephalum. Like I said before, I think it's a wild animal. But I think it's important
Starting point is 00:05:47 to have that discussion. I still hear this today. I still hear from researchers, from people who are into this topic that won't say publicly, but we'll say privately, they think these things are the nephalm.
Starting point is 00:06:01 So for a long time, I thought about doing a show like this. I thought, you know what, why don't I do a show on the nephalum? and what I want to do is prove that these things are not the Nephlem. So I thought about having a kind of a debate. Have one guy that believes that Sasquatch is wild animals, someone besides myself,
Starting point is 00:06:21 and then have someone who thinks it's a nephalum, have them go at it. And I thought, you know what, this isn't reality TV, and that doesn't sound very interesting. So what I decided to do, one or two shows, on the nephalum, and let you make up your mind. on if that's what these creatures possibly could be. I want the audience make up their own mind. And I think by the end of this, you'll be weirded out.
Starting point is 00:06:47 I can say that much. You'll be weirded out. And I want people to realize that this isn't, we're not doing a Bible study here. I've heard, had a lot of people say, well, I don't believe in God. And so I'm not going to listen to that show. And I've gotten those emails since my blog post.
Starting point is 00:07:05 I know you'll be listening. I know you'll be tuning in it for it, but that's okay. I know you'll be listening. And I'm sure I'll get your feedback. But one thing I want people to understand is, you know, this will be more than just a biblical discussion. And the gentleman that I'm going to have on the show is an author by the name of Gary Wayne.
Starting point is 00:07:28 And this is coming up next week. He wrote a book, The Genesis 6 Conspiracy. And again, this isn't going to be a Bigfoot show. we're going to walk through what Nephlam are so that, so I'm hoping we can just take that off the table for people who believe that this thing is the Nephlam after they hear what Gary has to say. And what Gary has to say is very, very, very, very fascinating
Starting point is 00:07:54 because it's not only just about the Bible, but he goes into old Samirian text. He talks a lot about writings outside of the Bible and talks about things that happened in our past and things that are happening today. So for people out there who think this is going to be a Bible study, I want to leave you guys with a question. Something for you guys to think about.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Have you ever wondered, looking at these old dynasties, you know, China had a dynasty, the Egyptians had a dynasty, Europe has a royal family, even up into our culture, but you ever stop and wonder, how did they become royalty? Did they just, did these dynasties,
Starting point is 00:08:36 just say we're royalty, we're a royal family, therefore we're in charge, and everyone just kind of went, oh, okay, well, that makes sense. I'll just let you be in charge and, you know, we'll go with that. You ever stop and wonder where dynasties come from? You ever stop and wonder where royal families come from? What makes them royal? And I want to leave you guys with the news clip. This is something to think about for next week. I want you guys to think about this. And yes, this is, we're talking about Nephilim, we're talking about blood, lines. We're talking about weird things that are going on right now. These royal families, they all kind of seem to be related. This is a news report that was done. In the beginning,
Starting point is 00:09:20 you'll hear Lynn Cheney, Dick Cheney's wife talking. And then the news reporter kind of gives you a real quick genealogy of people that we have in power. In my book, there's a lot of genealogical research, you know, going back, Dick's family, my family, these heroic and amazing tales of people who went west. But one of the things I discovered is that Dick and Barack Obama are eight cousins. Is that an amazing thing? Yes, if you go back eight generations, they have a common ancestor. Vice President Dick Cheney, the man who's only a heartbeat away from the presidency, is actually a blood relation. He's President Bush's ninth cousin once removed. Cheney's cousin, Barack Obama is also Bush's 11th cousin. But we're only just getting started. President Lincoln was
Starting point is 00:10:08 President Bush's seventh cousin five times removed. And Bush shared more than just a ballot with John Kerry. That's right, their ninth cousins twice removed. There's also royalty in the Bush bloodline. Princess Diana was Bush's 11th cousin twice removed. And then there's this bombshell. Sure, she may have been singing to JFK, but what about Jesus? He is, after all, her ninth cousin three times removed. Weird, right? Just me, or is that kind of odd? That seems a little bit more than coincidental.
Starting point is 00:10:47 So look for that next week. I hope everyone tunes in. I think it'll be fun. We'll kind of step away from the Sasquatch thing for a moment, discuss what the Nephlem are. I think these two topics get confused and then muddies of water. So let's just separate it. Let's talk about one side of it and see if it fits.
Starting point is 00:11:05 what Sasquatch is or not. I want to welcome Leah to this show. Leah, thanks for coming on. I really do appreciate it. Well, thanks for contacting me, and I'm honored. I love your show. It's my favorite thing. I don't have TV.
Starting point is 00:11:22 I'm in the mountains, and I can get TV, but I just choose to listen to radio now. I love it. I love your show the best. I appreciate that very much. No, I really do appreciate that. That means a lot. I wasn't expecting that.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I wanted to ask you. Now, you sent me this encounter that you had back in the 70s, and it was a very strange encounter. I know it happened out there in the Sam Houston area. And if you would, go ahead and take us back to that day. Just kind of tell us what you were doing, and then walk us into the encounter. Kind of tell us what was going on and what you saw. Okay, well, I was engaged, and I was at my fiancé. cabin, which was just a one-room, like sugar shack, that went over the water, a little lake.
Starting point is 00:12:13 We were just hanging out, and there was a, it wasn't his alligator, but it was somebody's pet alligator they left there, so we would feed it, and, you know, I had my little toy poodle, and we were just hanging out, and nothing unusual about the day, but then when evening came earlier that day, we had gone to Mickey Dee. and he had thrown half of his hamburger into the back of the bed. Later that evening when it got dark and it was really dark, there was no moon out. It was very dark, not any light. And he left his wallet in the dashboard of my truck.
Starting point is 00:12:54 So Don asked me to go down and get his wallet because he didn't have his shoes on. And normally I jump to help people and just, go for it, you know. But all of a sudden, I got this really weird feeling, and that's not like me. Because I grew up on a ranch, and we used to go out a lot in spotlight and hunt. I was never really afraid of the dark or being outside. So I thought that was really strange. And he said, oh, come on, come on, I'll stand on the deck.
Starting point is 00:13:29 You go down to the truck, which was, oh, not far at all, about 200 feet. from the deck. So I ran down, I walked down to the truck. Don said he would stand on the deck and watch me go down to the truck,
Starting point is 00:13:48 which normally I wouldn't be afraid to do, but like I said, I had this really bad vibe. So he stood there, I went a small set of steps, one flight, got to my truck, grab the handle to pull the door open, and the entire
Starting point is 00:14:05 truck was shaking like a 7.2 earthquake. And I was literally paralyzed, and I was frozen. But at the same time, out of the corner of my eye, I realized there was a giant black blob to the right of me in the bed of the truck that filled up the entire truck and was higher than the cab, way higher. and it seemed like a giant mass just hunched over, and I couldn't see any features or anything because it was really dark,
Starting point is 00:14:39 and I was screaming this blood-curdling scream that I never even knew that I could scream. And my fiancé was on the deck, and he said he saw it, and we both witnessed it just literally fly from the back of the bed of the truck all the way about 1,000 feet across the railroad tracks into the
Starting point is 00:15:02 that's where like the two berries of the blueberries would grow not blueberries but wild berries was real thorny
Starting point is 00:15:11 over there so we were like he was in shock to hear the way I screamed and I was too I said I knew something was up
Starting point is 00:15:21 you know and he said oh whatever it was it was after whatever I had thrown in the back of the truck my little bit of a hamburger
Starting point is 00:15:30 left in a wrapping because he didn't want to litter. So he threw it into the back of the bed like a lot of Texas do. And then he forgot to take it out. And I said, well, do you think that was a bear? But we both agreed that there were no bears or hadn't been for years. Right? You said there were no bears in East Texas. Yeah, they really don't have bears in East Texas. And if you see, when I was out there, I had asked the guys if there was bears in the area.
Starting point is 00:16:00 and they said, no, there hasn't been bears there for 50, 60 years. And even then what they have there is, or what they used to have there, before they all got hunted out of the area, was black bear. And the black bear down there are actually pretty small. So I don't, I mean, I hate to throw everything and say you saw a Sasquatch, but I just don't think it was a bear. I think you guys... Well, I grew up there, too.
Starting point is 00:16:23 You know, my big sister lives in Laskin. She's got three kids. I spend every summer, every weekend. I grew up in Houston. I was a rodeo cowgirl. I was out in the forest. I was in the country. I never, ever saw a bear in Texas, not one.
Starting point is 00:16:41 I mean, maybe there's some somewhere in Texas, but I've been everywhere in Texas, and I've never seen a bear. So, but anyway, we went to look for the footprints the next day, and I was sure that we weren't going to see any, because I had seen how far it flew like a bird. and um but anyway we wouldn't and look but there were none anywhere we looked everywhere for about an hour and we couldn't find any footprints um but last night i was curious really curious to see if that little shack was still there it was really cute so i google earthed it and i found it and you know I saw the railroad tracks, and visually from Google Earth, the driveway looks longer than it really is. But because when I looked at it, I was like, that's like the driveway, the street, and then the railroad tracks, that's a long way. But I never heard the creature or whatever it was hit the ground.
Starting point is 00:17:50 I never made a sound other than shaking the entire truck. I mean, the entire truck. And I don't think a bear can even shake a truck like that. I mean, that's why I was completely paralyzed because my hands off the handle, the door handle, and I'm frozen. I cannot move. The entire truck is shaking in my hand, and I can't even believe this. It was really terrifying.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Yeah, no, I can imagine, especially stepping out. You know, it's that weird sense you get when another predator is around it. And it's not just Bigfoot. I know a lot of people, when you were saying, hey, I was first stepping off the deck, and I could sense something wasn't right. I remember one time Woody and I were actually out hunting. And I remember getting a sense like something wasn't right, like we were being followed, we were being watched.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Yeah, we're built in with that survival instinct. It's built into us. Yeah, no, it's built into us. It's definitely built into us. I know in that situation a cougar was stalking us, you know, I just had that sense like something wasn't right. Something was almost like another predator was in the area. And I think you got that sense pretty easy. easily. I wanted to ask you, when you went back to look at the truck, did you see if there was any damage from it climbing up into the truck?
Starting point is 00:19:08 We did, and there wasn't any. See, that's the other thing. I think if a black bear would have gotten in the back of that truck after that... They usually link big, muddy, or dirty splotches. I probably would have scratched the side of your truck with its back legs. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I didn't even hear claws. It was hunched over. Whatever it was, was a giant black... kind of like a figure of a giant hunched over, but I saw it fly, and it was stealth. And if your first impression was it was a bearer,
Starting point is 00:19:40 bears are actually pretty fast, faster than most people think, but I think getting out of the back of that truck, I think it would have been a little bit clumsy, getting out of the back of that truck and taken off. When it ran, was it on all fours? You know what, it flew. It was in the air.
Starting point is 00:19:55 When I finally came out of a paralyzed state, the truck stopped shaking. I was watching the whole time out of the right side of my eye, but at the same time I was semi-paralyzed. Out of my right eye, I was so afraid to look at it. I was really afraid to look at whatever it was, you know, just... But anyway, out of the right side of my eye, I saw it jump, then I slowly turned my head, and I never saw it hit the ground.
Starting point is 00:20:27 It flew like a black streak. and I know it didn't hit the ground on the street because I had a full view of the street and then on the other side of that is the it went on the other side because I was looking at that point to see if it was like a bear or a dog dog because the way it flew and the way it was and I I reported it to the BFRO years ago you know just to make a note of it it. And then when I heard your show and I heard about how many encounters there were in East Texas,
Starting point is 00:21:22 not even a mile from the San Houston State Forest, property in between Huntsville and Lake. I was kind of glad I ended up moving. Now I'm a semi-retired fashion designer and I dog sled with four dogs, four Mal Husky mixes. And we're out on the forest every day, and we go pretty much about 10, 15, 20 miles. When I first moved into this cabin, I saw my first footprint. I think it was a big foot, but it was small but real wide. And the toes just didn't look like a bear to me. Was that the three-toe track you were telling me about?
Starting point is 00:22:11 Did I send you the picture? I sent you the picture. I think you were just telling me about it. It was a three-toed track. Well, I saw one of those, too. at one of the tracks there were about four one of the tracks and they all looked the same and except for one they had three toes
Starting point is 00:22:28 and maybe they missed putting their toes down but this looked like it was a different and at first I thought maybe it slipped or you know didn't put its foot all the way down and you know just lightly put it whatever but I had my doubts because it was small, like lengthwise, but width-wise, like the size of the grizzly bear footprint,
Starting point is 00:23:00 double my hand, and we don't have those, we just have black bears here. And then I actually photographed some black bear prints right after a bear was out in front of my house, and those tracks don't match that at all. And for the audience listening, you're actually in California now. you're not in East Texas anymore, so if there's a confusion where you're finding... Yeah, I moved here in 1984. I moved to L.A.
Starting point is 00:23:26 I wanted to ask you, Leah, so going back to the encounter real quick with your boyfriend at the time, now, did he see the thing jump out of the truck? He saw the black streak fly across. And what was his impression when he saw it? I'm barely remembering this, but I think he said,
Starting point is 00:23:45 I think that was kickfoot. And I didn't know. at the time really didn't know anything about Bigfoot. I had not even heard of that movie Boggy Creek
Starting point is 00:23:53 because it was kind of a B underground movie, right? It didn't really it wasn't that popular.
Starting point is 00:24:03 And I'm into science fiction but I just don't remember you know going to that movie or hearing that much of anything about that movie
Starting point is 00:24:10 really and I don't remember when I did hear about that movie but I didn't even care after that I just forgot it. Yeah. And then when I moved here and I saw a footprint, I was like, maybe I did see a
Starting point is 00:24:25 and then heard your show about like the Jurassic Park situation in East Texas. You know, and I was like thinking, I got to call this because, you know, that was a sighting that I had in 1978 or nine. and it was like I would call it a class A encounter because it was so close to me. And I didn't look at its face though because I was just so scared and paralyzed. But I could see on the right side. Do you know what I'm saying when you're looking straight ahead? Yeah, yeah. But if you're not looking to the right, right at the face or whatever it is,
Starting point is 00:25:06 and I didn't even see a face. I just saw a blob. I probably could have seen a face if I had seen some kind of light skin, or something like that, but it was just a big, pumped over blob. How far is it from where you had your truck to the train tracks? Oh, I would say a thousand feet. And how fast do you think it covered that ground?
Starting point is 00:25:29 Like a bird, like lightning, stealth. Yeah. And that's what made me think, you know, when my boyfriend said maybe it was a big butt, kind of jokingly, I thought, there's no way it flew like a bird. But see, I didn't ever hear about all these people's experiences about how fast they move until I listen to your show.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Yeah, they're a lot faster than I think most people realize. And like I said, I think if it was a bearer, it would have been a clumsy move out of the truck. I mean, they can move like, believe me, Black Bear can move like lightning. But I don't think it would have gotten out of the truck the same way. I think it would have been kind of a clumsy way get out of the truck, especially if you get that close to a black bear, that's ballsy enough
Starting point is 00:26:17 to come in like that. Generally, you're going to have some troubles if you walk up that close to them. And we would have seen tracks. And you probably would have seen tracks, yeah. And I knew there were going to be no tracks, because I told him, I go, that thing flew across the railroad tracks. He was like, well, I don't know what to say. And he goes, you know, I've never heard anybody scream like that before.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Yeah. No, I don't blame you. It would have shook me up. I never knew I could scream like that. You know, it was one of those moments I'll never forget. Yeah, or it's just that fear inside your stomach. It was a short moment. You know, I don't have a whole long story.
Starting point is 00:26:58 You know, it was a short moment. The whole thing happened in like maybe two minutes. Yeah, from beginning to end. Yeah, from the time that I left the door. I remember every step too. because it scared me so bad. I remember the screen door. I remember where I positioned him to stay, to stand to look at me.
Starting point is 00:27:19 I remember the odd fear I had. I remember going down each step, which was about six steps to the ground. Then the truck was parked right there. You know, the ground wasn't moving, but the truck there was an elephant in it or a horse. I like your 7.2 earthquake, that pretty much. Yeah, yeah, I like a 7.2 earthquake. that only that could do to a car if it shook it. You'll have to send me pictures of those tracks that you have out there in California where you're at.
Starting point is 00:27:50 I'd like to see them. I'd really like to take a look at them. Yeah, it was when I first moved in. So I think whatever it was, was curious. And it also came through the fire cutout. And I've heard you say that, you know, they travel those. Right. Yeah, a lot of times that's perfect for prayer or,
Starting point is 00:28:13 game if you want is to go into those areas. Yeah, they just follow the little trail down and, oh yeah, and then about three months after I saw the tracks, I actually started hearing the screaming and so did all my neighbors. I have two people that I would like to call you. I don't know if they will, but one guy had an experience in a town a little lower from here, and then another guy had an experience at the Pax station, you know, out on the trail with the mule trains and stuff. Yeah. And I was telling him, I said, oh, you guys should call in because, you know, it's close to me.
Starting point is 00:28:54 It verifies more of what I have experienced here. You know, I have experienced growling that I couldn't see but the dogs saw. And this growling was like a rumble of a jet overhead, but there was no jet. Before I had my gun on me because I carry my gun, because I'm out there, you know, in the wilderness. Before I could put the sled hook down and I had my camera out, boy, I was ready. You know, I was getting brave. I was going to get the gun. I had gotten the camera out.
Starting point is 00:29:26 I had it on record. I was trying to get the gun out. I was trying to put the snow hook in. But before I could even put the snow hook in to manage everything, my lead dog just turned around the whole team to go back home. and she never turns around at that spot. That's where we go downhill really fast. And I kept asking around, do bears growl like that? You know, or do I don't...
Starting point is 00:29:49 I've never heard a beer growl. Yeah, bears have a deep growl. So do, actually, a lot of animals do. But they don't have the rumbling, like a jet fighter type growl that these things have. I mean, you won't hear anyone describe a... The bear growled like a rumbling jet fern. And my dogs aren't afraid of bears. because they scare the bears, you know, away.
Starting point is 00:30:13 And they get faster and faster if they see a bear, you know, but they stay on the road. They're really well trained. But this time, they all three just instinctively didn't want anything to do with whatever it was. It was up on the left side of the downhill, where I go downhill really fast, and I film it, too, every time. So I had my camera out because it was the perfect conditions, and it had just snowed, and I was all excited to film this fast-speed thing down.
Starting point is 00:30:44 And when we turned around, my back wheel dog, blue, he kept looking behind us. And I was like, oh, God, we're not supposed to run. Not even from, if it is a bear. We're not supposed to run, right? But we're running. And he keeps looking back like there's something behind us, and I just couldn't look back because I would have fallen off, you know?
Starting point is 00:31:07 I had to concentrate on keeping moving forward, and I guess if I had have fallen off, I would have tackled whatever it was at that moment, you know? Yeah, yeah, no kidding. But I didn't go out after that for two weeks. Yeah, I don't blame you. I don't blame you. Well, be careful where you're out there,
Starting point is 00:31:25 especially if you got alone, even though you have your dogs and your arm, be careful if you go out there alone. I mean, besides Sasquatch, a lot of other things can get you out in that forest, so be careful while you're out there. I know you will be, but I feel like you have to say it.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Yeah, now it feels like my backyard. And I don't go the far, long distances without people that come with me. I have a little group up here, and we dogfoot together and dry land. Right now I run the three dogs on a fat bike mountain bike. So they pull me, and it's great. So I get in and out fast. Yeah. Well, definitely, if you get a chance, send my number over to those people that have had encounters out where you're out.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Okay, I'll try to get them to call in. It might be kind of hard, but I'll try. I would really like to because they have some really good ones, really good stories. No, yours was good, too. Yours was good, too, Leah. And I really appreciate you sharing it on the show, and I appreciate you being on. Sure, thank you for contacting me. It was a pleasure.
Starting point is 00:32:33 I'm glad I could throw in my pit bit, a little bit. Leah, again, thank you for being on. I really appreciate it. You know, one of the encounters I'm working on, I was talking, I spoke with him this morning, and we talked yesterday, was from a truck driver. And this truck driver had pulled over, as he does with many stops.
Starting point is 00:32:53 A lot of times he's out, kind of in the middle of nowhere, and a lot of these truck stops or resting areas he'll pull into, and he'll pull over. And he always carries binoculars, with him. Now this happened prior to him really believing Bigfoot or Sasquatch exists. He had pulled over after a long ride and pulled his binoculars out. It started scanning across the mountainside. And he caught sight of this thing a little distance away from him walking. It immediately drew his attention. So he has his binoculars up and he's checking this thing out
Starting point is 00:33:29 and it appears to be all the same color. There's no clothes. that appeared to be on this thing. He said it walked funny, it walked kind of bent knee the whole time it walked. There was no up and down when it walked. It was real smooth. And he said as he was sitting there watching it, the creature had kind of turned to look at him,
Starting point is 00:33:49 almost like it felt like it was being watched, and turned to look at him. And it bothered him. And he said that, you know, the creature just went up and left the area. But he had turned back to look at him. From that day forward, that really brought him into this topic. He was just enthralled by this topic.
Starting point is 00:34:08 You know, what was that thing? So I'm working on bringing him on the show. He should be on a near upcoming show. But if you've had an encounter out there and he'd like to be on this show, email me, Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com, along with your contact information. My next guest is Cindy, and Cindy's from Alabama. Cindy, welcome to the show.
Starting point is 00:34:31 I really appreciate you being here tonight. Oh, thank you for having, Ann. It's a pleasure. And you had your encounter. Was it a couple years back, or was it several years ago? Yeah, it was several years ago. It was back in, like, 03, probably in the spring. I don't remember the exact month.
Starting point is 00:34:49 But the spring, because it was warm weather. Honey season was over. I know that. But, yeah, back in 2003. Well, tell us what you were doing during the encounter. and basically just walk us into what happened with your encounter. Tell us what you saw, kind of what you're feeling at the time, and just kind of walk us into right up into the encounter.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Okay. Well, back then, I worked where I worked, I worked for a gun store and my boss, and I had around 400 acres of honey land, and he would let me go, and he also had a spot on it, so he would let me go fishing there, which we did often on the weekends. This particular weekend, it was a Saturday morning. I do, I mean, Saturday afternoon, I remember that. My husband and my daughter, who was here at the time,
Starting point is 00:35:37 they'd went fishing, and we'd been fishing all afternoon. So we were leaving in this county that we were in, in Alabama, it doesn't have a lot of things in it. It's mainly honeyland. So, you know, it's very wooded area. And we were leaving. My daughter was a citizen of that state. we pulled out of the driveway
Starting point is 00:35:59 and we had just started down the Sun Street Road and I'm going real fast probably around 40 miles an hour here so we're in a let me back up back in I had a Mitsubishi SUV Mitsubishi so it's a smaller
Starting point is 00:36:15 SUV so we just pulled out on this county road just started to you know take off and that's about a speed and my husband's driving and I'm on the passionist's gone. And over on my side, we see this huge, big, and running out. But we weren't going real fast where we had a slam on brake,
Starting point is 00:36:40 but we stopped because it ran right out in front of us. And it was on four feet. It was huge. It was just tall. It's not taller because I told people. And it was taller than my SUV, but, you know, I went right up on, so it was probably, but I didn't know it was at least as tall as the hood. It was as long as the hood.
Starting point is 00:37:03 It was, man, like, I mean, for me, it was just so incredibly big. And it was fast. I mean, it was just really, really fast. Now, my hopes and I, we didn't see the face. We had talked about it many times when we said the reason we didn't have because there was nothing there. I mean, there was just now. We didn't see any years. So the face must have been flat
Starting point is 00:37:28 When it ran by Because I remember seeing the butt It was flat It did not have a tail No tail It was a flat butt And it had hair And I still remember the hair
Starting point is 00:37:43 It's so funny because you know how your mind Can take a picture of something That's what I took a picture of It's a hair And probably The only thing I can figure Why I'm going I mean, why don't I take a picture of that here in my mind?
Starting point is 00:37:56 Why can I remember that? Well, I grew up on a farm, you know, we put eggs in the house in a freezer earlier. I mean, it was a typical farm. This animal, I'm seeing an animal. It has hair. It doesn't have fur like animals have. And I remember thinking an hour's sitter because on the back end of this animal, the butt was flat, but, like, right up under its butt and its legs,
Starting point is 00:38:22 There was hair flowing. Like, like, like, an hour's setter. The only way I can explain it. It wasn't like hair flowing, like, a model or anything, but like an hour's stutter. And it ran in front of us, and on the other side of the road was, like, a six-foot and it could have been bigger, but at least six feet. And then, of course, trees, just nothing but little. This thing, I swear to cut it.
Starting point is 00:38:46 It looked like it just blew over it. One leap. To me, I felt like it stood up and took one step. up and it was over it. My husband said it just went over it. But it was like that clip went and well that embankment wasn't even there. It was up in one leaf over that, over that embankment was gone. Of course we stopped. We had the window down and we were listening to it that through the woods and it was like carrying the wood stand. You could hear trees broken. You could make everything. It was so incredibly loud. And we listened to it for a couple
Starting point is 00:39:19 minute. It ran in front of it. Another thing that I remember, it's like, if you half it, like, from the front end to the back end, if you half it, like, the back end of it was a little bit, like, slightly higher than the front end. Like, the front end was just lower in the back end. Right, like it had its butt in the air. Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Yes. Yes, like, it had its butt in the air. And he ran across, and he just cleared that embankment and was gone. and we listened to this thing but when it ran in front of us when it first came out of us and it ran in front of us being my husband
Starting point is 00:39:54 I mean when you first see something like this because it was just mammoths we were like oh god what is that I don't know what is it did you see that now did you see the house? Did you see the hair?
Starting point is 00:40:04 What the hell with that? I don't know what that is I mean we were both just tracking forth screaming and they're like but what's that did you see that and I remember
Starting point is 00:40:13 I remember somebody said was that a bear I think I said it and my husband went no that was no bear. And it wasn't because you know how bear has the brown like the tans and the black face? This had no, it was not two colors. It was one color. It was a dark color like a dark brown, not jet black, but it's a dark brown. And there was nothing in the, I mean the face, we just
Starting point is 00:40:36 don't remember the face, but there was nothing to remember is why. Nothing stuck out of us. And there's no tail thing. So I remember saying this had a big book and I just went, you know, I got with your big foot, you know. And I was thinking of what year is because it was on our fours because I thought, hey, Patty walks on two feet. They all walk on two feet. So I go to work, I tell everybody that has ears. I told my family and my friends, everybody at work, anybody who would listen to me. As you can imagine, I've got made fun up, like out of, oh, my God, I got many of the time of stuff that.
Starting point is 00:41:11 I didn't care because of the U.S. off. I mean, I didn't care. Well, these people convinced me, these men who have. They don't have. It convinced me that Bigfoot walked on two feet. But they don't walk on 12th or so it couldn't have been a Bigot. And it was a Russian war. We really don't have Russian board in here.
Starting point is 00:41:30 However, they are in Tennessee, so I'm thinking in my mind, well, I guess one could have come down here. And I just thought that, well, it wasn't a Bigfoot. But all these years, I always knew I saw a Bigfoot. And then last summer, back back that much time, last summer I started listening to your show. And I heard Gimbo. and he was talking about the two ladies he worked with in the same county they had seen standing up on the father and they went to work and they were distraught and he pulled him in his office and he confessed to him what they saw and he goes back and he checks out that
Starting point is 00:42:05 area that those ladies saw their big-putting counter is on a road parallel to the road that I saw my encounter on they're basically paralleled there are a three-fitting counter. same spot. In between the two roads are heavily wooded area. And I'm on the map looking, it looks to do about two or three miles wide. So we saw our encounters, even though it was different years, in the same area. But your show changed my life because it convinced me and made me realize it do walk in all towards. That was the big foot that I saw. It really was. I appreciate that. You're wonderful. Well, thank you. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:42:49 You know, like I've always said, the show is the people who come forward that make the show. You know, it's not me or anything that I'm doing. It's the people who are willing to come forward like yourself. You know, and I think a lot of times when people see Sasquatch, they see it more often than not than on all fours. A lot of times, they'll see them on all fours. I had another lady I spoke to one time, and she was driving in her car. and it was a smaller car. And this thing on all fours
Starting point is 00:43:21 was almost to the roof of her little car she was in. And it was running right along with her. And she was like, hey, we have Black Bear out here, but we don't have Black Bear that big. They just don't get that big. And the other thing she noticed, too, she said to me, which I thought was interesting with your encounter, she said it kind of ran with its butt in the air.
Starting point is 00:43:42 She goes, it was real weird. Kind of like, she goes, I don't know if you've ever seen, she'll imagine a chimp on steroids but she goes it was just it was real weird the way it ran and she goes it had hair and I think even she had mentioned the Irish setter I've heard that a few times with the hair
Starting point is 00:43:58 it's under the butt and on the leg like where the butts put that in and on the legs it was like blowing hair and I would say anywhere from 6 to 12 inches long it was long enough then you could see tell what it was and there was another person that stopped
Starting point is 00:44:14 When we saw our encounter, there was a red truck. I remember the red truck. It was further on down the road. It was coming towards us, but it was further down the road when we were. But it too had seen it because when it got up with, because we were already stopped the window down. It too stopped. And he, the gentleman driving the truck, was looking in the woods as well. So he too had seen it across the road.
Starting point is 00:44:37 We didn't speak to him at that time, and I have regretted that ever since. I wish we would have. But when you're in shock like that, You don't think. You just don't think about him. Don't think about. Well, let me see what he saw. You know, we just, it just didn't.
Starting point is 00:44:54 And with my encounter being, and it was only a few seconds, you know, that we saw him because it was fast. But now I get it. People, and it makes me so mad when I hear critics say, oh, well, why, and you take a picture of it? You don't think about grabbing a camera and taking a picture of it. And even if you do think about it, by the time you pick it up off your seat, you turn it on, the thing is gone. Yeah, until you're in that situation, I think that, you know, that's kind of a silly thing for someone to say, especially with your counter.
Starting point is 00:45:23 I mean, got it happened so quick. What I think is interesting is a lot of your descriptions. I mean, you guys couldn't see the face. Was this at night when you guys were driving? No, it was still daylight, but it was probably, it was late in the evening. So I'm thinking anywhere between five and six-ish, maybe five and six-thirty-thirty-ish, somewhere in that kind of area. because when we would go fishing, my boss had a spot pond with bass, and of course when we would fish, I would catch one.
Starting point is 00:45:52 I don't fish if I don't catch anything because there's no fish in the river. I was catching fish so we would stay. So we would always stay, and I would go around 12, and I'd live around 5 to 6. So it has to be late in the evening like that, but it was still daylight. I mean, it was very, very daylight, and that's light to see. Yeah, the other thing, too, I think, you know, you grew up on a farm. there in Alabama. I mean, you know, you would have known if it was a bear,
Starting point is 00:46:16 and it would have been more or less, what's interesting is your guys' behavior, too, after you saw it, you immediately, what was that? And you guys stop and look, and even the guy in the other lane stopped and got out of his car to look. Generally, you don't do that for a bear.
Starting point is 00:46:31 I mean, if you see a bear, it's like, well, it's a bear. You know, you get bigger things going on. And like you said, you would have seen the ears. I mean, you would just have known if it was a bear. Oh, I would have. And I would have, I mean, We have a zoo in Montgomery.
Starting point is 00:46:45 We do have a black bear at our Montgomery Zoo. This animal that my husband and I saw, I promise I'm not exaggerating, maybe, I promise you, it was twice the size of the black bear that we have in our Montgomery Zoo. It was no bear. It would have, it would have been bigger than a grizzly bear. This was not a bear. And it wasn't a hog. I know what hog for looks like.
Starting point is 00:47:10 This did not have hog on it. It had hair. And the hair closer to its body was darker than the hair like the ends of the hair that were flowing in the wind. Those hairs were lighter. I mean, there was still, you know, there was still brown, but they were lighter than the hair closer to the body. And my mind just took a picture of that hair.
Starting point is 00:47:34 And it just, that hair freaked me out. I just never seen an animal with hair on it. It had no tell, no tell whatsoever. They had a wet. because that's the part I saw the most of because when we look over, it was just coming right at us, like right at my side,
Starting point is 00:47:48 and it ran right in front of us. So I really concentrated, by the time, you know, your mind goes, hey, there's an animal running in front of you. My mind, I'm concentrating on, you know, seeing it in front of me, and then seeing it crawl. So I saw the butt part the most,
Starting point is 00:48:01 and it didn't have a tell. It was a flat back, and it had hair running down. It's right now. I mean, you know, where the buddy comes and the legs part, the hair was flowing. How far do you think?
Starting point is 00:48:11 think it was from where you guys were at to where it crossed in front of your car. What kind of a distance do you think that was? 20 feet. Get back. I mean, maybe anywhere from 10 to 20 feet in front of me. Like I said, we didn't have to slam on brakes because we weren't going fast, but we did have to stop. But yeah, I wasn't very far in front of us. I mean, it was very close enough that I could see the hair.
Starting point is 00:48:36 And I could tell how tall it was. It was as tall as our hood. it was as long as our hood, if not longer. I mean, I felt like it was as long as the whole entire street here, but of course it wasn't. But it was at least as long as the hood of our car. How many seconds went by before it cleared the six-foot embankment and then disappeared off into the forest?
Starting point is 00:48:59 One. I'm telling you, to me, and my husband talked about this, I said to me when it hit that embankment, what I remember is it stood up. like it stood up like a man and it was tall it was taller than that embankment I promise you it was
Starting point is 00:49:15 because the head was over the embankment I mean I can do the things that my mind remembers and I don't know why I don't remember the face but I remember these details it was taller than the embankment
Starting point is 00:49:25 but when it hit that embankment one leak one leak that was fun it was like it stood up took a step up it was gone it was like that embankment wasn't even there
Starting point is 00:49:37 that embankment to slow it down one bit. I mean, this thing, it would change you. It was just the biggest animal I've ever seen in my entire life. Yeah, and out there in Alabama, there's not too many that matched that description. You know, if you're in Alaska, I'd say, well, it might have been a grizzly bear. But down there in Alabama, you know, it's, along with your description with the hair and everything else, that's what's frustrating about encounters like this.
Starting point is 00:50:02 I would imagine you've thought about this is it happens so fast that it's just like, what the heck was that thing? And we did. When the whole time I was screaming like, what was that? Did you see that? Did you see that? I'm like, yeah, I saw it. I thought, what was it?
Starting point is 00:50:17 I don't know. I don't know. I mean, we were both just freaking out. Like, we freaked out big time. It happened. I mean, I'm thinking three seconds, three to four seconds, it's always five, and it was gone. Yeah. And I don't, you know, I think that, what was it running from?
Starting point is 00:50:33 What was it running to? Why was it running so fast? You know, I didn't see it. deer, but deer could have passed in front of us and we just didn't notice it before. Maybe it was chasing a deer. I don't know. I've often wondered what was making it run so fast. Yeah, the other thing, too, it didn't even bother to stop and check you guys out. It just kept going. No. Yes. It never even liked that. It just kept them going. Like, we wouldn't even there. It wouldn't have even cared if we were there. It probably would have just run over our
Starting point is 00:51:00 traffic. We would have been a few seconds faster. Well, that's a fascinating encounter, Sunday. I really appreciate you sharing it. You know, I think. I think, Oh, well, thank you for letting me. I appreciate it. Your encounter, to be honest with you, is I think what most people experience, they're driving in their car and they see something either on four legs or on two legs, and it just leaves them puzzled.
Starting point is 00:51:22 You know, most people don't, unless you're out there hunting in the woods, but, I mean, most encounters happen with these roadside crossings. And like you said, it could have been going after a deer that, you know, as you guys were coming up, you didn't see cross a road. I just think it's interesting. It didn't even bother. to stop and worry that you guys were there or even bother with you as it just kept going. And then when it hit the woods, like I said, we stopped and rolled the window down to the
Starting point is 00:51:47 listen, it kept running. And it hit the wood, it continued to run. It didn't stop because we heard, it was so loud, we heard the tree breaking and limbs breaking, and you could hear it like, you know, like you could hear it running. You just heard a lot of commotion going on in the woods. Of course we couldn't see it because it was, you know, after it jumped in, bank when it was higher than us, and we couldn't see it, but you could hear it. So it took on running. It was running after something or from something, but it never stopped.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Because we didn't hear it anymore. Kind of like a Mack truck driving through the... That's where it was. It was. It really was. It was so loud. Well, thank you, Cindy. I appreciate you being on.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Well, thank you. I appreciate you. You're doing a great show. Please don't stop. You are wonderful. You are educating people. You are helping people realize that what they saw like me, you made me realize I really did see a bit, but I'm not crazy.
Starting point is 00:52:49 These people, they're the ones that were wrong, not me. I know what I saw. And because of your show, you open my eyes, and I thank you for that. I appreciate that. They're definitely out there in Alabama, and I appreciate the kind of words very much. I think as you and I talked the other day, you know, I really do appreciate it. It means a lot to me, but the show is nothing without people coming forward like yourself. So thank you for coming on.
Starting point is 00:53:14 You are so welcome, and I appreciate you giving us a place to tell because you're the first person. Not the first person, but you're the first, you know, like company per se. But I thought, I mean, I didn't call the police. There wants nobody to tell back then. You know, except my friends and family, but there's not an organization to tell. So you have given people that now. I'm so happy for that. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Thank you so much. Cindy, I want to thank you for being on the show tonight. I really appreciate it. If you get a chance, check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com. We'll be having shows throughout the week next week. If you get a chance, please check out the website. If you've had an encounter, please email me, Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com.
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