Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:1120 Police Officer Encounters Sasquatch

Episode Date: January 4, 2025

Paul writes "Hi Wes. I've been listening to your show for quite some time now. I've had two sightings in different locations here in Louisiana but have been reluctant to share with anyone for a few reasons. I'm born and raised in South Louisiana and also spent a lot of time in East and NE Texas. I've spent a good amount of time outdoors and in the woods hunting, camping and fishing. I'm a Police officer which is one of my reasons for being reluctant to share. The First event took place on June 1st 2019 I say event because I didn't physically see anything. My son (he was 6 1/2 at the time) and I were remote camping in the Kisatchie National Forest. The location was located between Alexandria and Natchitoches LA. We had camped at this same location at least 3 times prior to this without any issues. It was not a designated camping spot but more of a clearing with bluffs on 3 sides. It's a beautiful location that's slightly off the beaten path of a remote fire road. We had met a friend of mine and his girlfriend there the day before for a couple of days of camping and off-roading. We set up camp on Friday afternoon, the day before. We both drove off-road Toyota 4runners. He had a roof top tent on his and we set up our large ground tent. Now me being a LEO I go pretty much everywhere heavily armed, especially remote camping. This trip I had my sidearm, a Sig P320 9mm, and also my suppressed .300 Blkout SBR M4 style rifle with two 30 round mags. Yes I'm a gun nerd. We all just hung out that evening around the fire and had sandwiches. That night we went to bed at about 10pm. I had my pistol and rifle in the tent with me. My son and I slept on a queen size inflatable mattress. We heard nothing outside of the normal forest sounds that night. The next day we went off for the day exploring and off-roading around the area. I left my tent and gear setup there, as I did many times before. We got back to camp around 4pm Saturday afternoon. It seemed like a few items were scattered around but I couldn't be sure and just thought maybe it was the wind or something. That evening rather than sandwiches again we cooked tacos and made smores. Yeah they were jam up!! We sat around the fire again just talking until about 9ish and then went to our tents. I'd say we were about 30-40 yards from each other. My son wanted to watch a movie on the iPad so we did that for a while until he fell asleep. I remember it was right at 11pm because I got out of the tent to put the iPad in the truck to charge. My phone was also in the truck because there was zero cell coverage there so it was pointless having it in the tent. I went back in the tent, took my pants and shirt off because it's hot as shit here and got settled in for bed. Then it dawned on me I forgot my rifle in the locked case in my 4Runner. I had my 9mm with me so I said screw it as I didn't feel like getting dressed again to go get it. Only real threat we have here would be black bears although I'd never seen one out there so I figured 16 rounds of 9mm would be more than sufficient for anything I might need. I had no way at this point to tell the time but I'm guessing it was about 30 minutes or so later that things got really strange. I was just drifting off to sleep but an eerie sense of complete silence came over me. I mean nothing was making noise, no crickets, birds or anything. Then I heard something coming up from the slight bluff through thickett behind us. It was a moderately wooded area but not real thick. My kid was playing in that same area that afternoon so I was familiar with the area. Whatever was coming up from the woods was stealthy but still made some noise moving through the brush. I could easily tell it was big, at least big in the sense that it wasn't a opossum or raccoon or something like that. My first thought was a bear. My second thought was I didn't have my damn rifle and the truck was locked and at least 30 yards from the tent. I reached for my pistol and slid it out of the holster and layed it across my chest. I thought about getting the truck keys and setting off the panic mode, hoping that would scare off whatever it was. I reached around trying to find where I put my pants to get my keys but I couldn't find them from where I was laying. I was trying not to make any noise so I didn't want to get up. It was at that time that I heard a loud pop, like when you step on a stick and it breaks. The movement at that time completely stopped. It was as if whatever it was knew it made a loud noise and paused walking. At least a minute or two went by without a single sound, then it started walking toward the tent again. As it got closer I could clearly tell that it was walking on 2 legs. It was definitely bipedal, no doubt. I thought this is a person but who hell would be coming out of the woods at midnight and approaching an unknown camp. The sound and weight of the foot steps as it got closer was no way a person. They were so heavy sounding. As it stepped close to the tent you could feel them on the ground. Not shaking the ground per say but damn you could feel the percussion of them. It walked right next to the tent down one side, and I mean right next to it. Wes I've never been scared for my life until this night. My only thought was "please don't let my son wake up". I knew if he did he would make noise and I was trying to be completely quiet. I had a death grip on my pistol but something told me a 9mm was not nearly enough for whatever was out there. I made up my mind that shooting it was a last ditch resort. I thought my safest option was complete silence. It made its way around the head of the tent and then stepped away a little bit. Like maybe to check out the truck. I immediately heard it come closer to the tent again and start down the other side, walking the opposite way, like toward where it came from. It was then I almost died. It touched the outer roof of the tent as it walked the entire length of the tent. I could only imagine that it drug its finger down the tent as it walked along. It was a pitch black night so I couldn't see anything or even a shadow, but I could see the tent shake and it touched the roof. As it got to the end of that side it paused for a few seconds and then continued out towards the woods. This walk was different though. It was more hurried and seemed to not care about the noise it was making. As it hit the woods you could hear it pick up the pace as it made its way through the brush. I layed there completely still. Maybe after a few minutes or so the forest returned to its normal sounds. The whole thing lasted what seemed like maybe 5 minutes but honestly I really don't know. Other than the footsteps it made little to no sounds other than 2 maybe 3 slight huffs, if you know what I mean. There was a noticeable odor as it was close but nothing putrid as I've heard people report. Wes again I was terrified for my son's safety the most. I swear I layed in that exact position until the sun came up. I don't think I fell asleep at all. I wanted to get up and try to retrieve my rifle from the truck but I was scared that it was still watching. If my kid wouldn't have been there I think I would have reacted differently but also probably foolishly as well. I feel him being there may have actually saved my life. I didn't get out of the tent until I heard my buddy get out of his. I came out and looked around and nothing had been disturbed. I asked him if he heard anything last night. He said he thought he heard someone walking around but figured it was me getting up to pee or something. I looked around the tent to see if I saw prints of any kind but the ground was hard and grassy. I could see where the area around the tent was disturbed but no prints of any kind. I don't know what that thing was but I know it was huge. There is no way anything that wasn't walking upright could reach the roof of the tent. I know without a doubt it was not a person. If it was, he was huge!!!! Again I know I'm leaving out so many details here. Second Sighting This sighting was on November 8th 2020. It was just North of I-10 near the town of Rosedale. This is on the Eastern edge of Atchafalaya Basin and very close to the Sherburne Wildlife Management Area. The area is very rural, with wetland woods and sugarcane fields. I was on my way home from Texas traveling East on LA 76 about 1am. Again the road has no lighting and is very dark, with no traffic at that time of night. My 4Runner has ditch lights installed for off-roading. These are in intensity LED cubes mounted at the base of the windshield angled at 45 degree outward. They are to light up the ditch area out to the side of the truck when off-road. I normally wouldn't run these on the highway but I usually do on this road because it's so dark and there are deer everywhere along this stretch. Where I was the highway is elevate about 3-4′ higher that the surrounding field.I was traveling along a cane field which is separated from the road by a deep ditch, maybe 10′ deep and about 20′ wide, and there is about a 20 yard separation from the edge of the ditch to where the cane is planted. November is right at harvest time so the cane is about 10-12′ tall at this point. I'm going about 45 mph along this cane field and coming up to a point where the cane ends and the woodline starts. I travel this road often so I know where the marker reflectors are but in the distance I see a pair of what I thought were amber reflectors in the field where I know they shouldn't be. Now keep in mind I have way more lighting than the average vehicle so I'm seeing this at probably 100 yards or so. I know this isn't right so I took my foot off of the gas and started slowing down a little bit to check this out. As I get closer I see that these are not reflectors. I very clearly see a huge creature standing at the corner of this cane field holding a dead deer in its arms. I'm completely in shock at what I'm looking at but I immediately know what it was. There was at least an 8′ Sasquatch standing there looking back at me. It was standing against the cane close to where the woods were. It was maybe 2′ shorter than the cane so it was easily 8′ tall. It was holding a whitetail doe in both arms like it was cradling it. The deer's head was twisted the wrong way from where it should have been, obviously its neck had been broken. My thought is it had chased the deer down from the cane or woods and I just happened along at that moment. It was looking at me with the same amazement as I was looking at it. It just had the oh shit I'm caught look. It was completely frozen as I was passing. I would have thought it was a statue except as I passed it took a step with its left foot to watch me pass, rather than turning its neck. I just drove past it until I couldn't see it any longer and then thought to myself, "you idiot why didn't you stop". Like before I just had this fear come over me. When I snapped but to my senses I knew I had to go back. Maybe another 100 yards past there was a culvert over the ditch that I was able to turn around at. I floored it back to where it was but it was gone. I pulled over another culvert right where it was, shining my lights down the stretch of dirt road between the cane and the woods but didn't see anything. I really thought about driving back there or getting out and looking for tracks but all I had was my 9mm with me. There is almost zero chance that would have offered me any protection from this creature had it chosen to come after me. I sat there for 10 minutes just looking all around hoping for another glimpse. Like I said it was at least 8′ tall with dark brown hair (I'd say cinnamon brown but darker). It was completely covered in hair except for the face around the eyes and cheek area. The skin there is what I'd describe as brown for several shades lighter than the hair, I guess maybe tan. The eyes were huge like the size of coffee cups and the eyes reflected a bright amber color, reflected not shined. The head was smaller in proportion to the shoulder width than it should have been with a slight pointy shape toward the top. It had a flat wide nose but more human shaped than ape shaped. The arms were long looking but hard for me to say how long because they were curled up supporting the deer it was holding. The legs were massive looking with the upper leg length very out of proportion compared to a human. I guess I'm trying to say the knees looked much lower making the upper thigh area look longer. It stood with the knees slightly bent. Okay this will sound crazy but the only thing I have to compare it to would be Patty and Chewbacca. LOL It had the Patty look but the build of Chewbacca. It looked much taller and leaner than Patty. It was at least twice as wide as a large person though. This thing had to weigh 600 plus pounds easily. I was on the elevated roadway in my truck but almost looked eye level with it. Maybe it was taller than 8′. I know I'm leaving out details here. I'd be happy to answer any questions that I could if you have any. I could also get pics of the area and pinpoint them on a map. The sugarcane has already been harvested this year so pics probably wouldn't help much. Why didn't I think to go back and document things better? I was in shock for so long I guess. I still have a hard time processing all of this and especially talking about the first incident. That was the scariest thing I've ever experienced. I hope all of this makes some sense and if you'd like any further detail just let me know. Thanks for your time Wes and thanks for putting out this podcast for us. I never thought listening to your show that I'd be writing this email. Hope you had a great Christmas and have a happy New Year."

I wanted to take a moment to kind of wish everyone a happy new year. And thank you so much for taking the time to listen to this knucklehead a weekend and week out. And, you know, as a way to say thank you for listening and happy new year, I thought I would open up all the shows this weekend to the public. And I will return next week. The schedule will return next week. But this is my way of saying happy new year.

And hopefully this new year will bring us good things. this intro of this show, the first 27 minutes I'm covering something I think is very important and everyone should hear. But if you want to go straight to the encounter, skip ahead to about the 27 minute mark. Again, happy near and thank you so much for listening. It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind and it either heard me or smelled me, and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up, and that shocked me.

They don't make people that big. The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything move like that in my life. They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language and they were chuntering away back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forwards. I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet that what I saw were bears. What are you reporting?

Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That's sort of a bitch is about six foot nine, I don't know. Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right in any. Uh-oh. And Becky, and I'm Resadis. We're looking for a guy with big feet, 6-8, brown eyes, always high.

We found a my favorite podcast. Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show planned for you. We'll be chatting with Paul. And Paul comes to us from Louisiana. He's actually a police officer down there. He has two encounters he's going to go into tonight.

The second encounter, he actually saw the creature, and I'll kind of let Paul go into it. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is, West at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And forgive my voice, I was up most of the night coughing. Still trying to get over this stupid cold.

Kind of feel miserable, but I'm here. You know, as I was laying in bed last night, there's a show I actually like, Sean Ryan's show on YouTube. And Sean is a former Navy SEAL. And the gentleman he had on, Sam Shumate, he's actually a former intelligence officer, and he was a chief warrant officer in the U.S. Army. And the thing that's interesting about Sam is, you know, being former intelligence officer, former military.

He runs an Instagram account. And he's been known in the past to kind of take whistleblowers information and post it to the public stuff he could research and really find out that was true. And he got this email from a gentleman by the name of Matthew Leibelsberger. And we all know who that is. That's a guy who was in the Tesla truck that blew up in front of Trump Tower in Las Vegas. But the email, here's kind of a quick outline. And then I'll play the clip from the show. Basically what Matthew was telling Sam, he was a whistleblower on war crimes in Afghanistan

that were covered up in 2000. and 19. And we know Matthew was a green beret. He also said that China is stocking the United States with weaponized drones, advanced drones that are launched from Chinese submarines off the east coast. He said the drones that are flying over New Jersey are fast, stealthy weapons with advanced proportional systems. The drones are well armed and it can attack the U.S. from anywhere. They have an advanced payload capacity, and he called it our greatest national security threat that we're facing right now. He said the entire East Coast is in danger from these drones. And in this email, he talks about being followed by the FBI.

But let's get into the actual email. I'll start off with Sam talking about how he came across this communication with Matthew. Tell me how you got the email. All right. So for context, I've run this account for last four and a half years. There have been people in and out writing articles and different stuff and just Investigation some big some small just trying to keep accountability in the military, but developed a robust network within the military all branches and people feed into this and send me messages in here and there Nothing ever like this has ever come in. But I get a I get a well it started off as comments. So when you when you, when you, we need to you know, you have a big Instagram account, you're going to miss a lot of messages because people message and go to hidden messages and everything else. You miss a lot of stuff. Well, I kept seeing this comment

on recent posts that I put in there and was from this burner account said, hey, check your DMs, check your DMs, check your DMs, check your DMs. So I go in there and try to find it. There's no message from this guy hadn't come through or whatever. And then he messages again once that message was opened up. And I said, hey, your previous messages haven't come through. What do you want to tell me? And he said, what I'm going to send you? Now these are literally his words. What I'm going to send you is going to change the course of humanity. That was his phrase. Change the course of humanity. Okay, a little bit dramatic. I get these messages all the time. People have this big story they want to tell. They want to expose their command, whatever.

I take everything with a grain of salt until I have evidence and proof. So this guy is insistent. He tells me, he tells me that he is a 18 Zulu who I've spoken to before and he really needs to get this stuff to me. And then he talks about you. He says, I need you to get me. in contact with Sean Ryan. I'm like, dude, I don't know Sean Ryan. I'm not that big, but he's insistent that I get him diverted to media sources, says, go to Fox News, wherever else. I said, all right, tell me what you got. So I give him my proton email account, give him my signal number, and he reaches out immediately. And I'm going to read this initial message for you because this doesn't have names or anything else on it, but this was his message

on Sunday. He reached out and said, like I said, Sunday, this last Sunday, he said, send with a VPN active on Wi-Fi only. Do not message me. I will send out updates via both signal and email, but trust me, you're gonna wanna be involved. Well, first of all, no, I don't, I didn't wanna be involved. Anyways, and then, so I didn't message.

I responded back to his original Instagram, Instagram message, and I said, hey, I got your message on Proton Mail, and he said, cool, delete this. So I deleted it. That's how I ended up getting this message on Tuesday. So the message that this, this right here, this manifesto, if you want to call it that, came in on Tuesday. And when I started reading this, my initial take was, okay, this is off the deep end, it's bonkers. I can't validate or verify any of the stuff in this manifesto.

And I told them that in a subsequent email. And I'll read that to you later, my response to him. And once again, my response to him elicited, hey, get me in contact with Sean Ryan, Fox News and even said Pete Heggseth. Give me in contact with Heggseth. And I'm like, dude, I don't have the incoming Secretary of Defense's phone number. Sorry, bro. That's the last time I talked to him. So yesterday morning.

What date was that? That was Tuesday. That was this Tuesday. So we're Friday now. That was three days ago. So the day before the attack? Yeah, the day before the attack. I dismissed this stuff out of hand.

The 31st. It was on the 31st. Yes. In fact, I posted something on my, I told your producer about this as well. But this was a post I made on Twitter. I was just trying to be humorous off the cuff. It didn't mean anything about it.

I was just being humorous for my audience. I said, my inbox was especially eventful today. Allegations of war crimes, government anti-gravity technology, and fears about being tracked and watched by the feds. It's always, the world is ending and I have this information that needs to get to the media and never, how are you doing, brother? Everything all right? I was just playing off of a meme.

It was just supposed to be a joke. That was the body of his email that he sent me. And I didn't think anything about it. I didn't know who Matt Berg was, Matt Livelsberg or anything else. He told me who he was in the email. He pointed me to his LinkedIn account. I didn't know any of this stuff. And I was just kind of being humorous from my audience.

Like, I get these crazy messages sometime. And then the day after that message, I wake up and my body was like, hey, Sam, nobody in the community seems to know this guy. Do you happen to know who he is? And I played that for you before we came up here. Just absolute shock. That's how I woke up yesterday. Do you want to play it now?

Yeah. Excuse my language. I'm in a military group chat, buddy, Greenbrecht, Corey. He says, at Sam. Nobody I've asked in the community knows him. You is at 846 a.m. yesterday. So I woke up and I said, oh, F, I'm shaking. This guy emailed me two days ago.

I'm not playing. And then he said, damn. And then this was my response to him at 848. Like, just woke up. I'm fucking shaking, bro. You don't understand. This guy emailed me and told me he was being watched by the FBI and Homeland Security, but they weren't going to do anything to him because he had a V-Bid.

I'm not playing, dude. I have the email. I am shaking, man. This is nuts. I sat there for probably an hour talking about why I'm shaking. I can't even think straight. Like, normal day is shot, and I didn't know what I want to do. Do I sit on this?

Do I do nothing with it? I've got to tell somebody. I've got to tell the FBI, at least, because this is huge. This is all over the news. So this email came in on December 31st at 1042 a.m. That is Tuesday. He said, in case I do not make it to my decision point or onto the Mexico border, I am sending this now. Please do not release this until one January and keep my identity private until then.

First off, I'm not under duress or hostile influence or control. My first car was at 2000. 6 Black Ford Mustang V6 for verification. What we have been seeing with drones, he puts that in quotes, he says drones, is the operational use of gravitic propulsion systems powered aircraft by most recently China in the East Coast, but throughout history, the U.S. Only we in China have this capability. Our Opsen, that's Operation Center, our Opsin location for this activity is in the box below.

China has been launching them from the, the Atlantic from submarines for years, but this activity recently has picked up. As of now, it is just a show of force and they are using it similar to how they use the balloon for Sigant and ISR, which are also part of the integrated comm system. There are dozens of those balloons in the air at any given time. The so what is because of the speed and stealth of these unmanned aircraft. They are the most dangerous threat to national security that has ever existed. They basically have an unlimited payload capacity and can park it over the White House

that they wanted. It's checkmate. U.S. government needs to give the history of this, how we are employing it and weaponizing it, how China is employing them in what the way forward is. China is poised to attack anywhere in the East Coast. I've been followed for over a week now from likely homeland or FBI, and they are looking to move on me and are unlikely going to let me cross into Mexico, but won't because they know I am armed and I have a massive V-bid.

Let me pause right there for a second. So he says a massive V-bid. When I was talking to the FBI yesterday, they didn't know what a V-Bid was. I had to explain what that acronym meant, literally. You f-s serious. I said it twice, and he goes, you said that word V-Bid.

Can you tell me what that is? For your audience, a V-Bid, for your audience who has not been in the GWAT for the last 20 years, a V-Bid is a vehicle-borne, improvised explosive device, in layman's terms, a car bomb, what we saw at Trump Tower. So, backing up, he says, I am armed and have a massive V-Bid.

I've been trying to maintain a very visible profile and have kept my phone and they are definitely digitally tracking me. Here's where he gets into the other stuff. And this is where we had to redact the names. Well, your producer redacted the names. I have knowledge of this program and also war crimes that were covered up during air strikes in Nimruz, Province, Afghanistan, and 2019 by the admin, DOD, D-EA and CIA. I conducted targeting for these strikes of over 125 buildings. 65 were struck because of civcast, that's civilian casualties, that's,

killed hundreds of civilians in a single day. U.S. Fora continued strikes after spotting civilians on initial ISR. It was supposed to take six minutes and scramble all aircraft in CENTCOM. The UN basically called these war crimes, but the administration made them disappear. I was part of that cover up with USFORA, an agent, redacted, of the DEA, so I don't know if my abduction attempt is related to either. I worked with Redacted I owe staff on this as well, as the response to Bala Morgob. Redacted commander at the time, redacted can validate this.

You need to elevate this to the media so we avoid a world war because this is a mutually assured destruction situation. Then he says, for vetting, my LinkedIn is Matt Berg or Matthew Livelsberger, an active duty 18 Zulu out of 110, that's First Battalion 10 Special Forces Group. My profile is public. I have an active TSS SCI with UAP USAP access.

What is USAP? Do you know what that is? I don't know what that is. But I checked his credentials on LinkedIn. So that was the first thing I did. I went to his LinkedIn page. First thing I noticed was all of his bona fides were in place. He has all the UAS training from use of SOC and everything else.

And so I said, okay, at least the guy knows what he's talking about with drones. That was a very rough dig into the guy. But my issue was I couldn't validate or verify any of this information. And I told him that. And how I responded to him was, a subsequent email i said i said this is obviously a very big deal but i don't have anything to verify this information with talking about gravitic propulsion systems without evidence just makes me another ufo talking head like i'm not going to go on my social media page and start talking about ufos and

yeah anti-gravity systems and everything i don't i don't know what you're talking about i can't and he said can i get on fox news contact on signal as well as shone's show heggseth would be good too that was his last message to me wow yeah you know the thing you know the thing is what is a gravidic propulsion system to be honest with you it is a fancy term you're going to find in science fiction you won't find

it in any as far as I know you won't find this in any kind of official manual or you know scientific research this is all science fiction so but what struck me is his use what strikes me now not then but what strikes me now is his use

of a very specific term that nobody else call it if you asked me I would say an anti-gravity propulsion system. That's how I would describe it, because I don't know this stuff. He said, gravitic propulsion system. We looked that up last night, too, and all we could find was same thing, science fiction type stuff. But, you know, there are some things that line up.

One is, like I had mentioned, well, let's talk about the guy's story. Obviously, he had a VBID. Obviously, he was in the military and Serb. And the thing that he was talking about in 2019, we pulled a report. This is from October 9th, 2019. UN report, find alleged drug facilities were not lawful target airstrikes and caused significant civilian casualties. The United Nations Special Report, which examines the impact on civilians of the United States

air strikes on alleged drug processing facilities on 5 May, 2019 in Afghanistan determines the operation caused a large number of civilian casualties. The report also examines the legal framework of applicable to this incident. In June 2019, the UN assistance mission in Afghanistan, together with representatives of the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission, conducted the site visit to areas impacted by the strikes in Farah Province, Bakwa District, as part of its extensive fact finding into the 5 May incident. The UN verified 39 civilian casualties, among them 14 children, one woman from multiple

airstrikes on more than 60 sites that the United States, Afghanistan, identified as drug production facilities in Bakwa district and in parts of neighboring Del Aram District of Nimraz province. Moreover, the UN is working to verify credible reports of at least 30,000. 37 additional civilian casualties, the majority of whom were women and children. Although airstrikes on the alleged drug processing facilities had taken place before, this was the first time that UNAMA had received reports of large number of civilian casualties resulting from such an operation. You know, that's really disturbing. I

It's kind of amazing how the, you know, how shady the government's been about these drones is, far as giving us a real answer. And, you know, one thing that they said is if a drone crashes, don't approach it, you know, call us, we'll come take care of it. Well, if they're, you know, if they're drones, why would you be worried about if they crash? Don't touch them. Don't, don't approach them. And I'll play this very last clip and then we'll get into the show. Thank, thank you guys so much for bearing with me on this. Sean says something at the very end of this interview. He's the host of the show. Again, Sean is the Navy SEAL. That kind of shocked me.

I'm unfamiliar. All right. So I'm saying this with, you can decide to use this or cut it out. There was, there was, this is hard to work with it because keep in mind, let me give some background on this. I'm an intelligence analyst and I've spent a long, many years, validating sources, taking information in, putting it back out, telling my hum mentors, hey, this source, this is valid. Let's, you know, give him a rating of this, do this, this, this, recommendations.

so we can identify good sources in the field that give us information, and we can say, yes, this is an A source versus an F6. This is just garbage. Somebody got paid for something. I still work in intelligence. I'm an intelligence officer. I work for a nonprofit. Remnant ministries out of Texas.

In fact, the website is in my bio on X. I work for Dr. Pete Chambers, Green Beret. And we were involved in counterhuman trafficking along with just providing ministry to all kinds of stuff. Border operations. Most recently, we've been involved in West North Carolina, a great deal. And we had some confirmed reporting through two solid sources. And this is where I have to be very iffy. And I told him in the car and he can tell you offline.

I cannot say this on the air. but we had two solid sources, one south of the border, and then one from an element within our own government that confirmed independently of each other that some Iranian-made manpads to surface-air missiles had come across the border. We had the location and everything else. Well, Doc, that's what he goes by.

Doc Chambers, he put this out on a podcast, and I was very emphatic. This is not stuff that I like to put on social media. I'm an intel guy by trade. This stuff is not for social media consumption. We got this to Secret Service. We did the whole gamut and got everything pushed to them. And that's why Trump was pushing a lot of this stuff out when he was because we had told the Secret Service and they had the reporting and everything else.

But we have not, to my knowledge, have not recovered those manpads. Now, I'm not privy to that. But what I do know we have done is we have apprehended the couriers on a second run of theirs. And we have local law enforcement got together with federal law enforcement. and rolled up the safe house and I will not say that on on this show but they rolled up the safe house where it was and we have since identified what that that issue was on the border now let me let me let me let me let me let me just where did they come through they came through an actual point of entry in a legal point of entry along the border I'd have to I'd have to pull up the original reporting

but we had the actual... So we now have Iranian missiles. Who knows how many? Inside the United States. That is not something you're going to see in a lot of places. I didn't, like I said, I didn't even want to talk about it. It was one of those things where I was just amplifying what he was putting out already because I was like,

man, I don't know about putting this out. But it was something we found was pertinent because at the time Trump was still campaigning. He was flying around, and the reports were their intent was to take down. Trump's airplane. So at the time, Secret Service switched things up a bit and allegedly, from what I've told, they started flying him around on charters for a while until they could identify and kind of mitigate that threat. But that was the reporting stream that was coming out of the time. Feds handled it off my plate. You know, I mean, I'm with you on the not releasing certain things on social media. I understand that. But on the other way, on the other hand, it seems to be the only way to demand any type of accountability. or get this and enforce FBI, homeland, whoever else is involved to dive into this shit

and actually take part. That's what we've been doing here on the show with Scott Mann, retired Lieutenant Colonel Green Beret, Sarah Adams, former agency targeter. We brought on Legend, who's an Army Intelligence guy, who goes by legend because he doesn't want to reveal his name because he still is very involved. And we even went all the way to Vienna to interview Commander Massoud, the leader of the National Resistance Front in Afghanistan.

And, you know, we've been talking about this stuff for a year, a year. We got it to Congress, congressman out of Knoxville, Tennessee, Tim Burchett, sent a bill up. It's literally about we need to stop funding the Taliban $40 to $87 million a week. The Taliban has set up multiple NGOs within Afghanistan, and basically what we're doing is sending loads of cash to NGOs that the Taliban had set up. We're funding our own demise, and nobody's paying attention. Nobody's paying attention. We tried to get it in the media.

We got a little bit of hits. Most of them were from outside the U.S. We had a report around India kind of cover it. But we've been warning about what's happening for damn near a year now. Sarah first came on, I believe it was October of 2023, was her first interview. And nobody took it seriously. Now we have the New Orleans attack.

We have Iranian missiles. We have these invisible bombs. Do you know about the invisible bombs? So now these terrorist organizations have developed invisible bombs that will get through metal detectors, any kind of screening device that's out there, and they brag about this. And now we just did a Twitter spaces with Sarah Adams,

and they are now bragging that what we know about the invisible bomb, it's now even more advanced than it was before. So that means they can get this into stadiums. They can get this into airports. They can get this pretty much anywhere they want because you cannot detect it. That's scary. Yeah. Great.

So, you know, for the people out there, you know, look, there's no stopping what's here. You cannot stop this. Nope. You can't roll it back. Not with what we have already in here. We have sleeper cells. We're already getting reports that. I just lost my train of thought.

Oh, we're already getting some reports that there may be more involved in the Louisiana, New Orleans attack that they're not releasing. We also, I'll tell you this, there's a group of people flying around and basically briefing up different departments, governors about what's coming,

how to deal with it in their communities. There are deputies in New Orleans who put. them requests for training on how to take care of a threat like this and those f*** requests were denied they were denied and so what i basically want to say is it's going to be a bloody 2025 i think that's very obvious there you go what do you guys think about that please comment below let me know your thoughts on that forgive me for the long intro but i thought it was kind of important to play Um, scary stuff, for sure.

Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Paul to the show. Paul, thanks for coming on. Thanks, Wes. I appreciate you having me. Yeah, and I know that we're going to talk about two encounters tonight. The first one happened in 2019, uh, in Louisiana. If you would, just kind of start from the beginning.

What were you doing? And what happened? Um, so yeah, the first incident was on June 1st of 20th. I was with my six and a half year old son and we were going on a camping trip out to Kasashi National Forest. And for those that don't know, that's east side of Louisiana bordering on Texas. It's a huge, huge national forest. So we were meeting a better of mine out there and we were going to do some camping for the weekend. We've done this probably five or six times over,

over a few years, usually a couple times a year we would meet out there and just do some camping, do some off-roading, and through the forest out there and hiking, things like that. So that's what we were planning on doing. I met him out there on Friday afternoon, and we set up camp. We weren't really in a camping location, per se. We were just in a spot we've stayed at probably, this was a third. third time we stayed at this little spot. It was just a clearing in the forest up on a on a bluff. And, you know, good ways off of a kind of remote fire road. So it was just kind of like our little

spot, we'd never see anybody else out there in all the times we've been. And it was just a nice flat area to do some camping and just hanging out. So, so we met out there on Friday, set up camp, hung out around the fire for a while, had some sandwiches, things like that, and then slept Friday night, didn't see anything, hear anything unusual, just the normal sounds of the woods. So next morning, we got up, cooked some breakfast, and then we kind of took off. His camping set up, he's got a forerunner just like I did, and he had a rooftop tent on his, so they stay on top of the vehicle.

we were in a ground tent. So he picked up his tent and I left all of my stuff set up like I've done before and just kind of picked everything up but put everything in the tent and just went off for the day, did some hike in, did some off-roading on some trails out there. And we made it back to the camp. It was probably, yeah, a couple hours before dark and made a fire. and we decided we were going to cook that night. So we did a full taco spread, cooked dinner, had s'm, did all the typical camping stuff. I said my son, he was six and a half at the time. And, you know, he liked doing all that stuff.

We played in the woods right around the little clearing area right there. We just hung out, hung out till dark. It was probably eight, nine o'clock, maybe a little later. We decided kind of we were all going to turn in. So he went to his little camping area and we went in our tent. And we were probably separated by, I don't know, 40, 50 yards or so, relatively close, but not on top of each other. And went in the tent. My son wanted to watch a movie.

So we had my iPad. So we just kind of hung out in the tent, watched a movie. And at some point he fell asleep. And so. I went and picked everything up and I went in, put the iPad and everything in the truck. There's no cell service out there. So I just left my phone and the iPad in the truck and kind of went back in the tent and kind of settled in for the evening and just kind of laid there. Here in the south, it was hot in June.

So I took my pants off, took my shirt off, and just kind of got settled in. And it was about that time, I realized that I didn't have my rifle with me. You know, I'm law enforcement, so I go everywhere pretty heavily armed. So I had my pistol with me, but I also carried a short barrel, 300 blackout rifle. And I left it in the case in the truck. And it was like, you know, nothing ever happens out here. So wasn't really worried about it. I didn't want to put on clothes and go.

get it and things like that. So just kind of laid down there. And we kind of settled in for the evening. And I don't really know what time it was because, like I said, I didn't have my phone. But I'm thinking it was probably midnight, 1230 about that time. Just kind of laying there and kind of almost drifting off to sleep. And then just like something came over me. It was just an eerie silence.

Like there was no noise outside. crickets, birds, nothing. Nothing stirring around. It was just a really eerie silence. It was just shortly after that, man, I was like on high alert and I was thinking, wow, I really wish I had my rifle right now. And started hearing something coming through the forest. Toward the backside of our camp, it drops down into like a little bluff area there. And I was hearing something from that way.

and it was getting louder and louder. It wasn't like crashing through the forest, but it wasn't your typical raccoon or, you know, armadela noise. It was something sizable. So it worried me a little bit, and the eerie silence kind of had me on alarm. We have black bears here would be the biggest thing that, you know, we would have around here.

And all the time I spent out in the woods there and everywhere else, never ran across a black bear. So that's kind of what I'm thinking. I'm like, maybe it's a deer. Maybe it's a bear. You know, I'm not really sure there. So it was just, so just kind of lay in there. And it was getting louder, getting louder.

And it was about that time, I heard a huge pop, like a crack. Kind of like, I don't know if you're, you know, you spent a lot of times in the wood west. Like, you know, you're trying to be quiet. You step on that stick and it makes that huge breaking. You know what I'm talking about? Oh, yeah. I've done it many times. And it's usually when I'm hunting.

I'm like, ah. Absolutely. Always. Always the case. So that happened, and it was loud. So whatever it was was a big piece of wood. And then everything went quiet. Whatever was moving, stopped moving, you know.

And like, same thing you would do in the woods. Once that happens, you stop. Like, oh, crap. And it was probably a... a good, I don't know, it's hard to tell, five minutes or so, that everything was quiet again, no movement. And then slowly, you know, I started hearing movement again. And I can tell whatever it was was coming up, you know, the area where we were. And again, my mind completely went back to, I don't have my rifle. All I had was my 9mm, one mag, so 16 rounds. So I reach

over, I grabbed my pistol, unholster it, and I kind of lay it across my chest with my hand on it, and I'm just laying there. So, and I thought about setting the alarm off on my truck, but I didn't want to make any noise. So I'm reaching around. I can't find where I put my pants. My keys were in my pants. So I couldn't find them because I was going to set the panic button off and see if that scared whatever it was away. Couldn't find it, but I didn't want to get up. I didn't want, I didn't have You know, my phone there. We had a light, we had a lantern in the tent. But I didn't want to turn that on.

So I just didn't want to attract any extra attention. So just kind of laid there. And he kept getting closer and closer. And the closer it get, the not necessarily the louder anything was, but you could feel the footsteps. And it was no doubt, this was not a bear, was not a deer. It was something on two feet. So I'm thinking, you know, what guy or, you know, whatever would be in the forest this late at night and then sneaking up on a camp?

You know, because it's a South. Everybody's armed. You know, so I'm just thinking, I'm like, man, this guy's crazy. Started to kind of holler out, but again, just didn't want to attract any attention. So it's just kind of laying there. And the footsteps get louder and louder. and then you could feel them getting heavy. And again, whatever it was, definitely two feet.

You could just feel the footsteps. And I don't mean that by, you know, the ground was shaking or anything like that because it wasn't. But you could just feel the percussion of the steps. And at this point, it is pretty close to being on top of the tent. And so, you know, again, you know, I'm with my kid. We're, you know, our friends were over 50 yards or so, but, you know, I have a, you know, I got a six-year-old in a tent with me. And all I have is my pistol. And I can hear whatever it is, it's like now at the point it's coming up on the backside of the tent and coming down the side of the tent.

And you can hear it right there. And it would pause for a minute and then it would take another couple of steps. And this is a big tent. So it was a, I guess it was a six-man tent. So it was one that you could put a divider up inside and, you know, seven, seven and a half foot tall. You could stand up in it, no problem. So you could just feel it coming down the side of the tent and, you know, just laying there. And I'm, you know, thinking, like, whatever this is, it's huge.

You could just feel the footsteps. It made no noise other than the footsteps. There was an odor in the air, but nothing, you know, I've heard people describe kind of like a putrid smell or something like that. And I didn't get that. I got, you know, maybe just a stale smell, you know, wet dog type deal, maybe skunk type smell. But it wasn't super strong. But again, I'm thinking there's no way this is a man. And as it comes closer and closer, you know, I'm just, God,

man, I'm freaking out. I'm probably hearing it in my voice now. It's just this encounter was just crazy. It was just, you know, again, I think it was just being with my son in the tent and only having my pistol. And I'm thinking, like, whatever this is, I don't think I have enough ammo. I don't have enough gun for whatever this is. And it just kept going. It went down the side of the tent.

And then it went on the other side, kind of where our heads would have been. and it kind of walked off away from the tent. I don't know if it went. Maybe my truck was that way, so I don't know if it went to check out the truck, but it immediately I could hear it coming back. And it came toward the other side of the tent and started walking back the other way,

so it made almost like a loop around the tent. And it was at this point something it touched the top of the tent. You could, you know, the fabric of a tent, it's not a canvas, but it's that, you know, plastic type. You could hear it and you could feel it. And as it walked down, it was dragging what I can only assume as a hand or a finger across the top of this tent. And that just completely freaked me out, man. you know, where it was at the top of the roof, seven foot up, there was no way an animal could be doing that.

Absolutely no way. And I'm thinking it's cannot be a person because it's huge. Whatever it is, there's no light. There's no light in the tent. There's not much of light outside. So there's no shadows. So the only sense of size I had was the heavy footsteps. and, you know, and it's dragging, it completely walked the length of the tent,

dragging something, its arm, its hand, down the side of the tent. And the only thing I can think of is, please, please don't let my son wake up, because he's going to make noise. If he wakes up, he's going to make noise. You know, and it crossed my mind to fire some shots. It did. But again, I was thinking, I don't think a 9 millimeter is enough for whatever this is. Because even if a big black bear, nine millimeter is not really enough.

They just killed a black bear close to here this year that was 700 pounds. So, you know, even then, I'm like, I don't think a 9 millimeter is enough. So, you know, I thought, I'm like, okay, this is, if whatever tries to get in here, That's the only reason I'm going to use the gun. So if it tried to come in, then I was just going to, you know, mag dump it and hope for the best. But it walked down the length of the tent and touched the tent the entire way down. And I stood there for a minute. It would stop for a second or two.

And again, there was almost no noise other than the footsteps. Probably two or three, almost like hoofs. like a, I don't even know how to describe it, but like a heavy exhale or just a, oh, oh, probably I got that maybe three times or so. And that was it. It made no other noise. I couldn't hear anything else anywhere else. As it got to the end of the tent, you could hear it walk and it walked down that bluff again. This time, it, you know, it wasn't like trying to sneak up. It sounded like it was moving with a purpose here. It hit the woods, and you can hear it going through the woods for, I don't know, it seems like 50, 75 yards. You can hear it still going through the woods.

This time it wasn't trying to be quiet. So we just laid there. I laid there in complete silence and, you know, just terrified, just terrified. You know, I've had guns pointed at me. I've been in situations that were life-threatening. and nothing scared me like this did, just not knowing what it is, having my son there. Nothing's ever scared me like that. You know, I'm almost shaking now, just reliving this, just thinking about it.

And we laid there. I didn't move. I didn't make a sound. We waited for sunrise, and it seemed like it took forever. I didn't come out of the tent until I heard my buddy coming out of his. and then at that point, you know, it was light so you could see now. And, you know, I came out. My son was still sleeping.

I came out and looked around the tent and I didn't see anything. The ground was disturbed all around the tent, but no tracks or footprints or anything like that, paw prints. But, you know, the disturbance on the ground could have been to me putting the tent up the day before. I don't know. but there was no heavy prints or anything like that. But the ground's hard. It's grassy there. It hadn't rained.

So, you know, you wouldn't have had any kind of impressions in that type of area. Yeah, I was going to ask you if you look for prints. I know the ground out there in Louisiana is pretty much like North Texas or really all of Texas. It's a really hard clay. So did you and your friend have a conversation about what it happened? in the night before? We had a brief conversation because I kind of walked over the game. I said, hey, do you do anything strange last night?

And he says, well, I heard something moving around in camp. He says, I don't remember when. He says, but I thought it was maybe, you know, you got up to go to the bathroom or something. I said, yeah, I heard something too. I said, but it wasn't me. I said, well, it definitely wasn't me. And we picked up camp. You know, we were going to go, you know, go full wheeling again that day and leave that night.

and, you know, I told him, I said, I, you know, man, I'm kind of, I'm just kind of ready to go home. So I packed up the tent. I didn't even roll it back up and put it in the bags and stuff. I mean, I, like, balled it up and threw it in the back of my forerunner. And, you know, we packed up and got my son up and had a little breakfast with them and left. It was, you know, I couldn't stay there. There's no way I could stay there.

And I was just completely, completely freaked out. Yeah, I don't blame you. I probably would have left too. Well, I know I would have left. One question I want to ask you, I asked Jill this last night. We were talking about when the forest goes quiet. And, you know, I was telling Jill, for me, and maybe I'm wrong on the listeners, but I think a lot of people think, well, you know, big deal.

Can you kind of explain the feeling of that whole force going quiet, kind of from your perspective? I mean, the normal sounds you hear in the forest, There's things moving around, crickets chirping, you know, owls or, you know, birds in the background. It was a deafening silence. And, you know, it's a, I usually sleep with like a sound machine. And it's almost like when that thing goes off, it'll wake me up.

Sound doesn't wake me up. But if that thing goes off and everything's quiet in the bedroom, it's like starls me awake. And I don't know if you understand kind of what that it means, but it was just an eerie silence. There was no sound other than when I heard it start coming through the woods and into camp. There was nothing. Crickets, nothing at all. Yeah, you know, I kind of push this whole like forest going quiet thing because to me,

it doesn't seem normal at all. You know, in the south, especially, I've been down to Texas, and your guys is forced as loud at night. louder than here in the Pacific Northwest. I mean, your guys is insects and you got cicadas. I mean, everything's going off and for it to go dead silent. To me, it feels like almost unnatural. What's kind of your take on it?

It is. It's unnatural. And I don't know if me saying this makes any sense, but the silence was like the loudest sound you could hear. You know, it was deafeningly quiet, like nothing. And it's just, like you said, the forest is alive down here, especially summertime. You know, this is June, so, you know, it's summertime here. You know, it was probably in the 90s that day.

So everything's awake. You know, all the animals are awake. There's always squirrels, possums, you know, raccoons, everything. You know, we have a lot of possums and raccoons down here and armadillos. And you hear those all night long like the night before, you know, you hear noise all night long. And then all of a sudden it was like a light switch turned. And it was almost like one of those things like, wow, that's weird. That got quiet.

And, you know, it went quiet enough to get your attention. You can hear your ears ringing. You can hear your heart beating. It's so quiet. Yeah, that's exactly what it's like. You know, one time when I was down there in Texas, we had an armadillo come through. And at first I didn't know what it was. It sounded like a tank crashing through the forest.

And I was like, what is that? Because we don't have them here in the Pacific Northwest. But, you know, obviously what you were experiencing wasn't that. It was very, very different. You know, when things are small like that on four legs, you hear them scurrying. You hear them moving. There's a constant noise. What this was was bipedal.

It was step, step, step. There was no shuffling, there was no dragging of a foot. You know, as you move a foot forward, there was none of that. It was individual steps. Clearly could tell this was two legs, whatever it was. That's why the first thing I thought, you know, after, you know, it's not a bear. I'm like, it's a man. What is somebody doing out here? Yeah, I think that's where my mind would have gone too. You know, if you don't believe in Bigfoot, though, it must be a man. But nothing about this sounds like a man. And I know you went for the longest time trying to figure out what it was. And your second encounter, it was obvious what you were seeing. And we'll talk about that in a second. But, you know, when this encounter was all sudden done, what did you think it was?

not a man. You know, it was not a bear and it was not a man because you could feel the footsteps on the ground, you know, whatever it was. You know, even if this would have been, you know, Andre the Giant, if you can go back that far west, you know, it wasn't that kind of footsteps. It was, you know, it felt like something that weighed five, six, eight hundred pounds. So I don't know what it was, but I know what it wasn't. It wasn't a bear. It wasn't a deer. And it was not a person.

It was not a human. Just from the sounds of the footsteps, there's no way whatever it was was a 250-pound guy. Absolutely no way. So I don't know what it was, but I know what it wasn't. You know, I wanted to ask you, Paul, you know, you're sitting in your tent. And I'm curious what you think of the behavior. this thing comes into your camp. It's trying to be very careful the way it's coming into your camp, trying to stay kind of quiet. And it walks around your campsite for a little bit, takes off for a

moment, comes back, and then runs its hand across the top of your tent. And, you know, in a lot of these encounters where eyewitnesses are intense, they'll report this of it touching the tent or running its hands across the top of the tent. And, you know, after it does this, it takes off and it's not really trying to be quiet when it takes off. What do you make of that behavior? Do you think it was just trying to see if you guys were awake? Either that or, you know, tormenting, you know, if that makes any sense. When it left, it didn't take off running, but it moved with a purpose after that.

There was no longer stalking. So, you know, I kind of come to the conclusion of, was it curious? had it been watching us, did it smell the food? Because the first night we didn't cook. The second night, you know, we cooked tacos and we did s'mores and, you know, there was a lot more smells going around. I don't know if it came in to investigate things, but to drag its finger, hand, arm, whatever, across the top of the tent to me is a willful action. You know, that is done for no other reason. than to make noise.

Was it watching us the whole time? Was it watching us the afternoon or into the night? Because there was a light on in the tent for a while. He was watching iPad. The lantern's on. It's one of those LED lanterns. So that was on, you know, and it was probably 30 minutes, 45 minutes, after everything was dark before it came in.

So I don't think it just happened on us. I think it was watching us, whatever it was, whoever it was. Did you ever go back to this place? I'm not. We went out there a couple times a year for the past, you know, the three years maybe before that. I have not been back since. I still have it marked on my map. I kind of look at it and I pull up Apple Maps and, you know, I kind of look at it and it's marked trailhead.

And, you know, I thought about going riding out there. I don't know that I could go back in camp there. We haven't been camping since then, anywhere, anywhere. And I'm not the kind of guy that's afraid of the woods. You know, like I said, I go heavily armed wherever I go. And even if I'd have had my rifle in there, you know, that is a, I don't know if you're familiar with a 300 blackout, but it's a short-barreled M-4-style rifle with a big heavy, 300, you know, caliber slug in it.

So, you know, if this thing's flesh and blood, it can be killed. And 30 rounds of that, I think, could have took pretty much anything out. You know, I had two 30-round mags. But, you know, I was scared my son was out there, but at some point I'm kind of glad he was there because that may have kept me from doing something. Maybe I would have regret it, you know. Maybe firing a sidearm at it. I don't think that would have been enough.

You know, the thought passed me after it left. Do I need to go out and get my rifle? And I didn't want to make any noise. So maybe it's best the rifle wasn't in the tent. Maybe it's best my son was in there because that may have kept me from doing something stupid. Yeah, and I think that's a pretty good mindset to have, Paul. It is probably best you didn't get out of the tent. I know over a year later, you had this other incident happened to you.

this time you saw the creature, how far away was that second incident to this one? It would have been quite a waste. It wasn't the same area of Louisiana. This was in more south-central Louisiana where I live. But so it wasn't near this forest. It's probably, I don't know, 150 miles away. But where the second sighting was borders, the Achaffalai Basin, which is a flood basin for the Mississippi River. And that is all wooded, you know, that's public hunting land out there. And it's a wet bottomed type of woods there. So that is for the second sighting was that that basin area is directly west of, you know, where I

saw this, enough to be within, you know, walking distance. and also borders the Sherbourne Wildlife Management Area. So there's another big, nothing but woods, hard woods there, hunting with some, with some soggy bottom, swampy areas there too. So it was bordering a lot of woods and a lot of game, game areas. I hear you. Well, if you would kind of walk me into this incident in November of 2020. So I was coming back from Texas going home, and I'm probably 15 miles from home at that point.

And this area is just on the north side of Interstate 10, and again, adjacent to the Atchafalaya Basin. And that basin is separated by a big levee that holds the floodwater into the basin when the Mississippi River comes up. So I'm coming home. It's probably, it's about 1 o'clock in the morning. And this road is dark. There's no, it's in the middle of nowhere. No one lives out in this stretch of it. So there's no street lights.

There's nothing like that. This is completely rule. And on my forerunner, I have what we call ditch lights. And these are powerful LED cubes that are mounted kind of at the wind shield area, the bottom of the windshield area and they point off at a 45 degree. So basically, if you're off-roading, it lights up the side and, you know, toward the front, the ditch area. So I usually wouldn't ever run with these on, but I do in this little stretch of area here,

because it's nothing but cane fields and wooded area. There's no light. This time in the morning, there's no traffic. So I did have those lights on here. So that illuminates 90 degrees to the side of the vehicle and, you know, in a 45 degrees all the way up front. So I have these lights on and they're bright, bright, bright. So as I'm coming down this road, the road sits elevated from the field, the cane field that's out there. And then it's also separated by a big ditch, probably a, I would say, 15 foot deep ditch and maybe 20, 25 foot,

wide ditch. And then that kind of drops down to the cane fields. And then there's an area probably about 20, 25 yards from the ditch to where the actual cane is growing right there. And, you know, middle of November, this is sugar cane harvesting time. So the cane is in most spots, 10, 12 foot tall at this point. It's ready to be harvested. So in Louisiana, our cane gets, some king gets taller than that, but ours is probably 10 to 12 foot in most areas here. So I'm driving down this road and there's deer, there's always deer out here. So that's why I'm running these lights, doing about 45 miles an hour, so I'm not going fast because, you know, I've had several run out in front of me here. So I'm watching and I'm always looking for them. So kind of going

into the field, going along the field on the road here, and then probably from where I started seeing something about 100 yards, it turns into woods. It goes from Cainfield to woods. And that's generally where the deer start is at the woods. So I'm watching. Like I said, I've been down this road 100 times. So I'm looking. And I see something ahead of me.

The first thing I see is what I thought was gold reflectors. Like there's reflectors along the road, kind of where the crossovers are to get into the field. and some of the yellow signs with the yellow and the black stripes on the side to kind of mark. So I'm thinking, well, that's an odd place for those reflectors to be. And they're bright, man. They are bright. I'm like, wow, that's odd. So I kind of take my foot off the gas and start coasting.

And then as the light picks it up, I immediately saw what it was. It was not a reflectors. It was not signs. there's an eight-foot creature standing there looking back toward me holding a dead deer. So it's holding, you know, as I got up closer to it, I could see. It's holding full-grown white-tailed doe. And it's looking at me, looking at it. And it's almost like, you know, for lack of a better term, deer in the headlight look.

It's standing completely still, not moving, I guess kind of one of the, things, well, if I don't move, it can't see me. So, you know, and so I'm kind of coasting down, slowing down as I come into, it comes into view and I'm passing it. And I'm looking at it compared to the cane and it's not much shorter than the sugar cane, maybe two feet. So I'm thinking, whatever it was was probably eight foot tall, nine foot tall. And it's hard to say because the road's a little elevated, but I'm looking at this thing sitting in my truck almost eye level. It's huge.

It is absolutely massive. Just standing there holding a deer. Like both of its arms are curled, supporting the weight of the deer. It's like it just picked it up off the ground. And looking back on it, you can see the deer's head was turned the wrong way. It's limp laying down, but it's not facing the right way it would normally be. So it looked like it maybe broke its neck. So, you know, kind of coasting past this thing.

looking at it and it's looking back at me. And, you know, if it wouldn't have been for the last movement, it would have been like a statue. Like it was completely frozen. And as I passed, so it's on my right hand side. So as I pass, it takes a, instead of turning its head to watch me pass, it takes a kind of a step with its left foot and kind of turns and watches me leave. And at this point, I'm probably doing 25 miles an hour and kind of coasted by it and like and just, you know, kind of not believing what I just saw, even though I know exactly what I saw. And, you know, so I kind of pass it up and everything goes dark. And I'm like, man, I should have stopped.

I'm like, I'm turning around. So, you know, and again, all I have with me is a nine millimeter. So I'm turning around. So I came to the next little culvert area and I pulled. in and back back out and just like floor it back. And I'm maybe 100, 150 yards from where it was. And as I get back, you know, that everything's lighting up. It's gone. I could see right where it was standing because it was on the corner of where the cane field ends. Then there's a, like a little access road that goes on the side of the field. And then there's so there's woods on the left

hand side of this little road. And there's Canfield on the right hand side. So I pull into the culvert right there where it would have been standing. I'm shining my lights back down this little dirt road that's there and I'm looking all around. I probably sat there for 10 minutes just looking. You know, the thought crossed me like, man, I need to get out and look and see if there's any footprints or tracks or anything I could see right there. But, you know, again, all I had was a nine millimeter. And seeing this thing, there is no way. There's no way I was getting out of my truck. with a handgun. Unless it had been a 500 smithmsmithing lesson, I'm not getting out with a handgun going to

see where this thing was. And stay there for like 15 minutes and kind of moved the truck around so the lights would be pointed in different areas. And I didn't want to drive off into this field because, you know, it's private property, but, you know, at that point, it wasn't really mattering. So I pulled down a little ways and looked and shine the lights different ways and never saw anything else. Didn't see anything move, you know, whatever it was had either gone back into the cane or into the woods on the adjacent side.

So, yeah, like I said, sat there for 10 or 15 minutes looked around and finally like, all right, well, I guess I got to go. Not left. You know, and I still pass this road, you know, two or three times a month. And like, you know, so I'm looking really hard now. Yeah, you know, it reminds me I used to have those same lights you're talking about. And I kind of used them for the same purpose going down some of these. back country roads where there's no light. These deer will kind of pop out in front of you.

And I kind of read it up in my, my Hummer. They kind of have a fake grill. It's like an open area underneath the engine. And I had put lights in there. And then at night, when I flipped the switch underneath the dash, it was like Batman going down the road. I wanted to ask you, how far away from you was this creature? I'm on the road.

So there's the ditch on the right-hand side. of me where it was. So that's probably about 25 feet across and then probably another 20 yards to where the cane starts. So I would say, you know, this thing was 35, you know, yards or so from me when I saw it. And like I said, it never moved. It stayed right there until I passed. So I was, you know, I was probably a good 35, 40 yards from it with a lot of light on it. Yeah, that's pretty close, especially when you're hitting it with those LEDs that light everything up. If you would, would you kind of describe what you were looking at? So, you know, saw something that's eight foot tall at least, at least eight foot tall.

I estimated there was probably two foot of cane from my best guess of where the top of the head was to the top of the cane. So there's probably two foot. So what I saw was at least, you know, I wanted to go back and measure. of the cane the next year when they grow it. So it's down right now, so I can't. But, you know, just to get a better idea, but it was at least eight to nine foot tall. It was a dark brown, not black, not cinnamon, but a dark, dark brown, completely covered in hair other than the facial area.

But a lot of people describe them as being matted up or the hair splotchy. And this wasn't. This thing was, I don't want to say well-groomed, but it was, you know, uniform at least. Huge. Absolutely huge. And I think what I told you in my email was, you know, the only thing I have to compare it to is, you know, the Patty film. And then, you know, I'm a 70s, 80s kid. So, you know, looking at Star Wars at Chabaca.

And what I saw was, you know, almost a. cross between the two. It wasn't bulky like Patty was. It seemed taller. It seemed thinner, but still massively huge. The shoulders were probably three and a half, four foot across. The legs were massive. I couldn't see the chest area because it was holding the deer. But, you know, I could see waist down, huge legs, long. unproportional. As far as if you were looking at a human, the legs were different. They were not proportional like a human. It's almost like our knees are in the middle of our legs. And this thing, the knees were much lower. The thigh area was much, much longer than ours is. And it stood there

with a slight bend to the knees. The head was unproportional to the shoulders. It was smaller than you would think it should be given the size of the shoulders. No neck. You know, it was almost like a lump on top of shoulders. So the head was small, you know, compared to the body. Couldn't really see the arms other than it was just folded up over the deer. It was almost like cradling it, like it just picked it up. The head and the face, you know, I couldn't see any years.

It was completely fur covered except for, I would say that the hair is not fur colored, hair covered, because it wasn't fur, it was hair. Everything was pretty much haired over with exception of the center part of the face from the brow area, forehead area, was real, real light haired, and then, you know, down to that it almost like it had a beard. You know, the hair started back on the cheeks and hung down off of the, off of their chin. Massive eyes, you know, these amber colored eyes from the reflection were, you know, compared almost to like looking down the end of a coffee cup. They were the size of a coffee mug. Huge. You know, you were hitting this thing with a lot of light.

Do you think those eyes were glowing or was it eye shine? No, definitely eyeshine. They were not glowing. Because, you know, as I got, as the light trailed out, you could see them fading out. It was definitely a reflection, just like a normal eye, you know, but they were a bright, bright, amber colored, yellow amber colored. The nose was, wasn't a gorilla nose. It was more human as far as the nose goes. but very smashed in and kind of smashed up, if that makes sense.

The mouth was not open. It was closed. You really couldn't see. It didn't have big, you know, Kemp lips or anything like that. It was more, you know, more human-like as far as the lips go. You couldn't even really see them, you know, just from the beard that it had. And, you know, you could tell the mouth was really wide, but you really couldn't see any lips or anything like that. The forehead was some hair on it, but more sloped back.

I don't want to say cone head, but definitely, you know, a poignant head kind of conical looking, and the forehead kind of sloped back into it. I don't know if you're a Treki fan, but almost, you know, what was it? Klingons, you know, that wrinkled-type forehead and, you know, kind of sloped back. Oh, I thought I lost you there, Paul. It kind of dropped off. I wanted to ask you, you know, as you were going by this thing, you'd kind of mentioned, obviously, it's doing the stone face, not moving, not doing anything. And then as you kind of went by, it pivoted. Was it kind of squaring up with you as you were going by? No, it was square to the road already. I mean, almost like perfectly square looking out to the road. So as I went by, rather than it turning. its head and watching me go by, it almost took, it took a step with its left foot and kind of turned its hips at the same time. If you, if you kind of get what I'm saying, it turned in the

direction that I was going and kind of watched me go. So instead of turning its head, it took kind of a step with that left foot as it turned its hips and just kind of rotate it and watched me leave. And that's why I know that the eyes were not glowing. Because once I pass like 90 degrees from it, those cube lights just have a sharp, sharp cutoff. And then there was no, no eye shine or anything after that light passed it. Yeah, it's probably best you didn't stop, you know, especially if it just got a fresh kill. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

But, you know, and, you know, Wes, I listen to your show. And, you know, I keep thinking every time I listen to something, I'm like, you know, well, then you take a picture. Why didn't somebody take a picture? My phone was sitting on my console, and it never dawned on me. I'm like, man, I'm like, you know, all of us other idiots, I didn't even take a picture. I didn't even think about it. Never dawned on me to pick up my phone, stop and pick up my phone. And I could have.

I had time. It never dawned on me. And I'm kicking myself. Like, man, why didn't you take a picture, you idiot? Yeah, I kind of think everyone goes through that. it's one of those things to where it's the last thing on your mind because you're in shock as far as what you're seeing. You know, when you were looking at this saying, did you get the feeling you were looking

more at a man or more of an animal? I can't say that it felt like either. Yeah, it was standing up like a man, but it was not proportional to a man. And it definitely was not proportional to a man. and it definitely was not proportional to a gorilla. A gorilla is not that tall and not that lean. And I say lean, this thing wasn't skinny. It wasn't emaciated or anything.

It was massively healthy. But a gorilla is not shaped like that. They usually have the big chest and the big belly. And even though I couldn't see most of that because of the deer, but it wasn't there. It wasn't like that. So, and I guess if I had to say anything, it was more human-like human-esque just from the way it stood and the way it, you know, was shaped. But, yeah, even the biggest human you've ever seen, read about or anything, it was so much bigger than that, so much bigger, so much wider than that. And it was like standing there like, well, if I don't move, you know, maybe it doesn't, he doesn't see me.

it doesn't see me. And, you know, it was almost like that. It was almost like deer in the headlights. It didn't move a bit. It could have took off running, but it didn't. And I don't, so I don't know if they're sensitive to light like, you know, deer in the headlights. I don't know if that caused it to stay there or if it knowingly said, don't move.

It'll just pass. Yeah, you hear a lot of accounts of them freezing and not really moving. And it's pretty smart if you think about it because as humans, as predator, you know, we see movement. If something's not moving, we're probably not going to see it, except for in a big field like this. You know, when you, after this encounter, did you kind of look back to that incident a year before and go, oh, I wonder if that's what that was?

And it didn't take me two minutes to think about that, you know, on the drive after I pulled out and finally left and said, all right, I'm going home. It's the first thing I thought about is like, that had to be, yeah, obviously it wasn't that one, but that had to be what came through camp because then it all made sense the size of it, the feel of the footsteps, where it touched the tent, seven foot off the ground. You know, this would have been, you know, this thing could have held out in its hand straight out and touched the tent where it did that night. So, yeah, it took me, you know, all of a minute or two to come to the realization of,

This is most likely what was out, you know, in Khashashi. You know, Paul, being that this was so close to your home, have you thought about going and talking to that farmer? No, you know, I really talk to any about it, Wes. You know, I just, it's got such a stigma to it. You know, and I'm in law enforcement and, you know, definitely don't want to get a reputation of being crazy, you know. So, no, I didn't. I didn't, you know, I didn't talk to anybody else. You know, I got online and read and looked and, you know, I looked at the BFRO page and

seeing where sightings were and there's tons of sightings out in Kasachi. Nothing really right where I was when I saw this one. But, you know, it's perfect habitat. You know, you're right there at the flood basin. There's woods everywhere. There's hundreds and hundreds of deer. you know, in these woods, in these areas. So, yeah, there's, there's plenty to do. There's plenty to eat there. That's for sure. Yeah, I understand how you feel. I think times are changing,

though, a little bit. The two categories of people that listen to the show that shock me the most are kids and cops. You'd be surprised how many cops listen to the show. Let me ask you, I mean, after this whole incident, now you get it, now you're actually seeing it. The first one, You didn't really get a look at it. But the second incident, you know what you saw. How did this kind of affect you? Well, you know, it kind of, you know, like I said, I've always kind of been interested in Bigfoot. But, you know, I wouldn't say before this that I was a believer, you know, I've never seen one.

So I don't know, you know, all these people could be crazy talking about this. And after I saw this, I'm like, oh, well, this is real. you know, there's no doubt what it was, not in my mind. I'm like, okay, well, all this is real. This is, you know, this is real stuff. So, you know, that was my, you know, kind of how it changed me and went from not a believer, but not a skeptic to like, okay, well, this is real. This is absolutely 100%. I know what I saw. So, you know, and I haven't told anyone, you know, Wes, when I talk to you, that was the first time I've told anybody about this. And I'm not sure if I told you kind of the story,

but there was a show earlier this year, and it was almost like the same tent store. I was on my way to Texas, different time, and I heard this, and I heard this account. I need to go back and listen and find it again, so I know which one it is. But, I mean, I was driving and it shook me. Listen to them talk about the tent and it came into it came into the camping area, which I've heard on many times.

I mean, it affected me to the point that I had to pull over on the side of the interstate and sit there for, you know, 10 minutes and, you know, kind of catch my breath again. You know, like I said, I've been in all kinds of situations and, you know, I'm pretty good under pressure and, you know, nothing really affects me like this. But when I heard that story and, you know, I had to pull over and, you know, I've been wrestling with. you know, listen to your show and I've been wrestling with, you know, sending you an email. I'm like, hey man, this is what I saw. What do you think? You know, just to get some validation and, you know, and kind of tell somebody at least. Yeah, you know, most of the tent encounters or campsite encounters, their behavior seems the same when they come in. So I understand why it shook you because it's exactly what happened to you. I wanted to ask you, Paul, you know, after

Gosh, we're going on almost six years now of that very first incident. I ask everyone on the show, what do you think Sasquatch is? What's your take? Well, Wes, I knew you were going to ask me that. And I don't know. It's not a human. It's an animal. It is a living, breathing, sleeping, eating, crapping animal.

And, you know, we're animals as well. I don't know. It's not human. Did it come from humans at some point? I don't know. I don't think so. You know, Relic hominid comes to mind.

You know, something ancient, but it's also something very intelligent. It's not intelligent like it, you know, speaks English or knows algebra, but intelligent like it knew what it was doing when it came into camp. It knew. I think it was being. antagonistic. It knew that touching the tent and running its finger down it would make noise.

And maybe he was looking for someone to get startled. Maybe he was looking for a reaction. I say him, I don't know what it was, but maybe they were looking for a reaction. I don't know. But, you know, it killed a deer, so it needs to eat. You know, I don't, you know, I've heard all the other people talk about it. I don't buy into the portals and, and, you know, disappearing and reappearing. I don't necessarily believe that, but, you know, I'm sure not going to count it out, that's for sure. But it's an animal. It's something. It's in the woods. It needs to eat. It needs to sleep. And it's curious. I think whatever it is is very curious of us, wary, but curious of us as well. So I don't think that's very, it's very, it's a

not an answer, but it's what I got. Yeah, I, I appreciate it, Paul. I appreciate your answer. And it is, it's a frustrating topic because, I mean, you're right. It's like this thing eats, it poops, but all this other weird stuff, if, you know, something spiritual, why would it need to eat and poop or hunt for its own food or it's frustrating, man. And even with their behavior like in that first account,

It's very human-like. You know, that's something I would do. If I was going through the forest and I stepped on a branch and I was hunting, I'd be like, oh, no. And I would stop for a moment and try to get everything to get quiet again. You know, obviously, I've made a mistake. And that's kind of what this thing did. It's very human-like behavior. Yeah.

And then, you know, after it did that, it stopped and waited for everything to get quiet again and make sure nothing was stirring around, which was weird. Like you're saying, you know, if a bear does that, he's not stopping, you know, Cougar's not stopping. This thing stopped and waited to make sure the coast was clear. Make sure I wasn't coming out or someone wasn't coming out or something else wasn't moving. It stopped for minutes and waited. And kind of a last question I want to ask you, Paul, you know, when you're in your tent and the forest goes quiet, after the creature left, how long do you think it took before the forest came alive again? Probably 30 minutes.

It, you know, it was, you know, I say that as an estimate because I didn't have my phone or anything with me. I didn't have a watch on. It took a long time, but it, you know, it wasn't forever. But I would say 20, 30 minutes before, and it wasn't like another light switch on, it was, you know, the crickets may have started back. And it took a while before I heard anything moving. Of course, I was hyper sensitive to anything moving in the woods.

But, you know, the crickets came back, you know, maybe some birds around or something like that. But it took a long time before anything in the woods started moving again. Yeah, it's very weird. I appreciate your kind of your insight on that. And I really appreciate you taking the time, Paul, to come on and share with us what happened to you. I know that you haven't shared this with anyone. And thank you again for coming on, man. Really enjoyed chatting with you.

Wes, I thank you for having me on and giving, you know, people this platform to reach out. Because I'm telling you, man, it means a lot. You know, it feels good to tell somebody and with no fear of ridicule. So thank you for giving us this platform and what you do. and, you know, it's great entertainment for us. You know, my kid gets in the truck and he's like, hey, can we put on a Sasquatch Files or Chronicles? And he's like, I'm like, yep, absolutely.

So, you know, we road trip and it's, it's Wes talking to us the whole way. So we appreciate that. Thanks for the kind words, Paul. And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance, check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com. You can become a member and get additional shows.

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