Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP1135: They Won't Leave My Daughter Alone

Episode Date: March 9, 2025

Jackalynn writes "I've been listening to your show for a few months now, I know you mainly do Sasquatch encounters but after listening to Travis Walton fire in the sky I feel like it's time to share my encounter with a group of aliens I had in 2011. I'd like to share with you if you're interested In hearing it." We will also be speaking to Eric. Eric is from New York, he writes "My daughter may have seen a Bigfoot. Back in January my daughter wanted to go on a walk after dinner. She wanted to walk down to the water not far from our house. I reluctantly agreed. The reason I was reluctant was up to that point I've had a few experiences that led me to believe Sasquatch may live in or travel through this area. These experiences ultimately are what led me to discover your show. So my daughter and I along with my small dog headed out on our walk. My daughter and I wore headlamps to light our way. The road to the water is unlit and travels through a protected wetland that dead ends at the river. The first thing that happened that in hindsight was a red flag was my dog did not want to walk down that road. Several times she stopped and tried to pull back. About 3/4 of the way down there was a tire track in the dirt road that had frozen over. My seven year old could not resist immediately jumping on the ice. It made a loud hollow crumble noise as the ice exploded beneath her feet. Almost immediately after she did this there was a very heavy thud on the ground off to the left about 50 feet into the woods. I immediately stopped my daughter from making noise and listened for about 45 seconds or so. I heard nothing. We continued on. We reached the water turned around and started to head back without incident. We made it about 90% back to the end of the road when we came upon another frozen tire track that apparently my daughter had overlooked on the way down. Curious, I asked my daughter to jump on the ice like she did the first time. She did so and this time almost immediately after the ice broke, off to the left of the road (the opposite side as the first time) there were strange somewhat high pitched whoops that were crossed with a chatter at the end that went on for several seconds. I could tell there were two noises coming from the same area in the woods because the vocals would overlap at times. We froze immediately. We stood still for several minutes after these strange noises were heard. During this time I was slowly panning my headlamp all around looking to see if I could see anything. As I was looking back down the trail towards the water my daughter suddenly ran into me from behind and latched onto to me. As she did this she said "daddy a man! There's a man up there!" I asked her where. She pointed in the opposite direction (the way we were headed) and said he crossed the road up there. I kept searching that area up ahead but I couldn't see anything. We cautiously continued on. She let me know where she saw the man cross the road as we approached the area. There was no evidence of anything having crossed there. We stood there for a few minutes to look and listen. Nothing was observed. Back at the house I asked her what the man looked like. All she could describe was that he was big and black and that it walked across the road up in front of us and she could tell it was looking at us. We went for a walk a few days later down the same road at about the same time with no issue. My dog didn't pull away like she did the first time. That was the most recent experience I've had out of several here in Putnam County New York. The first one was in 2020. I feel like this message is already long so I won't go into the earlier experiences."

On a late November night in 2012, while driving in the foothills of Washington, two brothers were surrounded by mysterious creatures. Still haunted and forever changed, these men took to the internet, creating a forum for others. If you've had an encounter and no one else can help, maybe you can contact Sasquatch Chronicles. It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blinding. It either heard me or smelt me, and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up and that shocked me. They don't make people that big.

The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything move like that in my life. They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language, and they were chuntering away back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forwards. I know what a bear looks like, and there is no way on this planet but what I saw bears. What are you reporting? Hello? Get somebody out here.

What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about six foot nine, I don't know. Do you see a male, sir? Yes, I'm looking right in any. Uh-oh. This is the best podcast in the whole world. I'm Lily and you're watching Sasquatch Chronicles. Welcome to the show, everyone.

Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show planned for you. We'll be chatting with Jacqueline. And Jacqueline has kind of a scary encounter, an abduction encounter that happened to her. And, you know, when I was talking to her off the air, I really wanted to hear the whole thing. So this would be the first time I'm hearing it,

the whole thing tonight. but I'm fascinated by these accounts. And then we'll wrap up with Eric. Eric comes to us from New York. And just this last January, he was out hiking with his daughter. When a very strange incident happened, his daughter was talking about seeing this very large man crossed the path in front of them.

And as I was talking to Eric off the air, he was telling me, you know, a lot of weird things have happened to him in this area. and it's very close to his home, and I'll kind of let him go into it. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at saskwatchch chronicles.com, and if you get a chance, check out Sasquarch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Let's jump into it tonight.

I want to welcome Jacqueline to the show. Jacqueline, thanks for coming on. Yeah, anytime. Yeah, I'm excited to chat with you, Jacqueline. You know, I was telling you off the air, I've heard probably a dozen or so of these type of encounters, mainly off the air. So I do appreciate you coming on the air and sharing it.

All of this kind of started back in 2009, if you would kind of start from the beginning and kind of walk me into this whole, you know, what's happened with you and in these incidences of these, I guess I'll call them entities or we can call them aliens showing up? Walk me into this if you would. So I've pretty much had encounters like off and on throughout my whole life. But when it started really happening progressively more was probably spring of 2009. I was over in Perrysburg, and I was camping with three other friends, and I'll give you the setup real quick.

So it's pretty much the middle of nowhere. There's sheep farms. It's very secluded. It's right off to Indian Reservation. So I was camping on probably like 25 acres, and you could see pretty much almost all field until you hit the back of the acreage, and then it's all. woods. So we're camping, we're sitting at the bonfire, kind of talking, and all of us noticed that this star gradually starts getting brighter and probably within three, four seconds, it explodes into like a stadium light where we could see all 25 acres like we're playing football in

field. So I'm going to call him M. M and C pull out their fun. And see. And C pull out their and try to video this and their phones are dead, just completely dead. So we're sitting there like kind of in awe, like what is this? Like what's going on? And then it just vanishes and it's nighttime again. So we're talking about it. And then pretty much as soon as we're like, what was that? You could hear the sheep going off.

We had a dog named Max with us. He was a border collie mix. He runs into the tent, was afraid to come out, would not come out. So all of us go into the tent and just, you know, kind of start talking. And that was the last thing I remember and we were waking up and it was probably 10 o'clock in the morning. The second encounter, so I had my daughter in February and probably I'd say around fall. I had moved to Salamaca. And the apartments were actually an old school building that they had turned into apartments.

And so these windows were like almost the whole entire width and height of this eight-foot ceiling span. So it was a very big picture window. And I'm sitting in the living room facing the window and there, it looked like a basketball-sized orb that just kind of fell. right in front of the window and I get up and run to the window and I saw this orb fall into like a yard. So there's, I'm at the back of the apartment. There's a driveway. There's a baseball field, a road. And then there's an abandoned house. So I get up and I run to this window to like see this orb fall into this yard. And as soon as it hit the ground, it just, you couldn't see it anymore. Two black SUVs pulled out of the driveway and went in opposite directions. And my child's father went down to going to this house to look around and stuff. He couldn't see anything.

There was nothing there. There were no signs. Absolutely like it never even happened. And then that winter, the contact started. I went to my dad's house, which wasn't very far from where I was originally living to stay for a couple days because I was sick. And I was there three, three days. The first two days were perfectly fine. That third night, I got Semiah in bed.

It was a queen-sized bed. I go to lay down. It was probably a little bit after midnight. And I opened my eyes because I felt like I was being watched. Just uneasy. I opened my eyes and there are these aliens standing in the room with me. Give me a second. So the wall or like the bed is pushed.

up against the wall straight across from the doorway. And the doorway opens up into the room, into like the middle of the room. And then there's actually a staircase that goes upstairs. So it's like a little alcove that you cross over to get into the bedroom. So I opened my eyes and there's, they're probably about two and a half, three feet. There was a soft yellow glow coming from the alcove and there isn't a light in the hallway. It was like a pale yellowy

orange, very soft and the one in the doorway had told me push her away. So I leaned over and I pushed my daughter towards the wall all the way to the wall.

And there was another one at the the foot of the bed, like right at the end of the bed, almost at the corner. And then there was one on the side of the bed where my feet would go. And then there was one at my waist. And I was, I was nervous. I was scared. I didn't know, like almost a panic. And as soon as I started feeling that I heard, it's kind of like a telepathy. Like you don't, you don't, they don't actually speak. It's in your head, but it's not your inner monologue, if that kind of makes sense.

It said, like, pretty much along the lines, like, you can be curious and we're not supposed to touch. So the one that was standing in the doorway, I had a feeling like it was more of, like, a general or, like, a higher. up like rank and then the two that were at the foot of the bed were observation and the one that I was supposed to be interacting with was the one that was where my waist would be so I turn over and I want to touch this alien and I know I'm not supposed to do anything but I do anything way and when we reach up, they have three fingers in the middle and then like kind of like a thumb, but it's not placed where our thumb would actually be. It's closer to where like a pointer finger would be. And we, I'm sorry, like I'm shaking. Our fingers start to interlock, like our fingertips

start to interlock. And I sit straight up out of my. bed and there was sunlight starting to peek through the window. I had lost like four or five hours of time. My bed was completely like soaked, drenched in sweat. I had to completely take the blankets and the sheets and the pillowcases. I had to completely take everything off. So Maya was pushed all the way to the wall. Still sleeping. And I was sick. I was sick. I started feeling better within a couple days after that. And periodically I have encounters like that off and on. The most recent one was actually probably like four months ago.

But it's not just me now. It's my daughter experiencing this too. Yeah, what happened four months ago? go. So my daughter was cleaning stalls in the barn. It was really, really, really foggy. We have tarps down on the end of the barn to kind of block some of the wind. And she comes inside.

She's like, Mom, I want you to come outside with me. So I go outside and she's like, there's something that's watching me. So I'm standing in the barn with her. And we hear this. It was kind of like a bug, but a mechanic, high-pitched frequency noise that we were hearing. And I've never heard a noise like this, like it wasn't a generator or it's just, it was weird. that was the first time we heard it the second time she was out in the run-in behind the house and she could see silhouettes of these creatures moving back and forth with the same noise

yeah very strange when they were in your room would you describe what you were looking at So the one that was standing in the doorway, it was facing me and it was almost perfectly centered in the middle of actually the door frame. It was overseeing me and the other three. And I just, it was a feeling that it had a higher ranking. It was a general. It was a higher up than the other three. three and then the two that were at the end of the bed they were both the one was facing directly straight at me at the end of the bed and then the one that was on the side towards my feet was

actually facing down the bed but angled towards me and then the one that was at my waist was actually turned into the bed and where the bed fell on that one it was right above where like our belly button would be. I didn't see nipples. I didn't see collarbone. There was no hair. Their eyes were almond shaped but it didn't take up their whole

entire top part of their head like you see a lot of drawings like cartoon wise. It's not like that. From what I could see it was like a flat black eye color. There is a nose but it's not like ours. It's more

of kind of a lump with slits. They don't have lips. It's kind of like it goes straight from their chin into a slit where their mouth would be, and it is shorter. They're not really skinny, I would say more lean, and you can see, like, where their ribs would be. And then the fingers, like there's three fingers in the middle, but then a thumb, I would say it would be a thumb because of how it was placed.

It was more like where the pointer finger and the actual hand would meet together. That's where that thumb would come out. Their fingers are a little bit longer and it kind of widens at the tips. It's not like a bulb. I wouldn't really say wedge shape because the fingers are still round. and the texture of the skin there's nothing on this planet that I could just like accurately compare the texture of their skin too. I've never felt or seen anything that I could compare it to to accurately. The color of their skin was like a like a pale gray.

kind of color, but it wasn't all uniform either. Like people have blemishes and stuff like that or like sunspots. It was kind of like that. Like there were very small, distinctive like a mole or freckles or something like that on his hand. It's just, I don't know. it still gets to me. Do you have any physical effects after these encounters? I mean, as like time loss, I ended up pregnant when that the first light that kind of exploded into like a stadium light,

I had my daughter in February. This encounter happened probably like spring. I was going through an uptopic pregnancy when this specific encounter and happened. So they gave me like two shots of methotrexate, which is a low dose of chemotherapy. My hair was falling out. I was losing weight. I was sick all the time. Two months of blood work every other day to make sure my HCG levels were decreasing.

after the encounter, a couple days after that encounter, I started feeling better. I started putting weight on. My hair wasn't falling out. Yeah, very strange. When they were in your bedroom and I don't know because I've never encountered the grays, I think I know exactly what you were looking at, though, based on other eyewitnesses. But did their facial expression change at all? I know it realized you're communicating through telepathy, but did the phase change it all?

Nope. It was just like it was just blank. Like you look at you're looking at someone and they're there, but they're not there. It was just a very flat expression. Their lips didn't move. Their eyes didn't shift from left to right. Like you really couldn't tell if they were looking left or right. It was just a solid.

eye. The one in the doorway, it was more of just a silhouette because the light was behind it in that hallway. So you could pretty much see the silhouette, but how the one was right next to me was faced like you could see half of the face and the chest and stuff. I knew that I wasn't supposed to be afraid. It was, it was like a feeling. It was like something in my head saying that it's okay to be curious. Like it, I don't know how to explain it. It was, it was in my head, but it wasn't my inner, like, monologue talking.

Like, I wasn't talking to myself. It was something else interjecting. I gotcha. Well, can I ask you? What gave you the impression the one in the doorway was actually in charge? It was just, it was a feeling how he stood there, how he just kind of, it was just a different, like, I don't know how to explain it.

It's more of a feeling than a physical type, like knowledge, I guess you would say. Just how he was standing there, just the other two were more focused on what they were seeing as far as me and this fourth one. The first one was more kind of just in the background overseeing everything. He just stayed there the whole entire encounter. I mean, the other, all three of them stayed in the same spot, but he didn't come closer. He didn't back away. He just stood there perfectly where he could see all four of us interacting amongst ourselves. So like between the doorway and the bed, there was probably like, I'd say four feet where the

bed was to the actual doorway. It was a queen-sized bed if that kind of gives you like dimension type. Did you ever get the impression like what is it that they want with you? I had thought that and I didn't get an answer. I mean, it's kind of like, like I still want an answer. I'm still, I still want another encounter to ask the questions that I didn't get to ask. But at the same time, like, I'm absolutely terrified. like in a sense it um i guess you'd say it's more of a longing it kind of felt like home in a way

when he said when he said that what do you mean um i need a second i always felt like there was something more that like i really didn't belong here if that kind of makes sense i don't know if there were other encounters like this that maybe I was too young to remember or just blocked out and then being able to remember one and experience it. I don't know if that's, you know, it was almost like we had a connection in a way. Can I ask you, you know, before we started recording, I was telling you the story about this old man that decided to run his mouth off to my mother and kind of how me and my brothers handled that situation, which was probably very immature. But so everyone handles things differently, I guess is where I'm going with this.

You know, if I wake up and I'm in bed and I'm in my room and there's four, and you describe them as kind of short, two to three feet tall beings in my room, I'm probably going to get up and mop the floor with all four of them. And I don't really care what they have to say or what the message is. I got a message for them. And I'm not saying that's a great way to handle it,

but that's probably how I would handle it. When you were in that situation, why do you think the panic didn't set in? I didn't want to leave Samaya there. Originally, I was, I was afraid. I kind of frozen. And then it was how the one next to me had spoke to me, push her away. It's okay to interact.

It wasn't, it wasn't aggressive. It wasn't, like, controlling. It was, it was softer. It was almost monotone, kind of. I didn't feel like I had to fight or run away. I wouldn't say it was necessarily like caring, but more curious than anything else. I feel like all of the experiences I've had up until that point.

I mean, pretty used to weird stuff happening. A lot of, like, I really don't get freaked out over a lot of stuff. What do you think that these aliens are? I mean, I've heard different theories, and I can have my own thoughts, but I've never actually encountered one. So, you know, I'm just shooting from the hip with my ideas. but what do you think that they are? I mean, we'd be kind of silly to think that we're the only planet

in billions and trillions of planets that have like a thought process. There has to be other planets that are similar to ours that have probably been probably have already went through this phase of evolution. I mean, I imagine that that's an evolutionary timeline just magnified by billions of years. Yeah, I'm just trying to wrap my head around to where you're at on this, Jacqueline. I mean, like I said before, you know, if there was four beings in my room and they're telling me to push my kid away, my response is probably going to be go F yourself, and then I'm going to start hurting these things that are in my home. And again, maybe that's why I don't get visited by aliens, but, you know,

your reaction to it is pretty calm. I think I would freak out, and I think I'd probably respond with aggression. You know, what's strange is I've been watching a lot of these near-death experiences. And I'm going to come back around to what you were just talking about. But what's fascinating in these near-death experiences is you'll find that whether someone goes to heaven or whether they go to hell, they're very consistent on what they say. There's a lot of consistencies. And I tend to believe these people, you know, you're talking about a guy who's been dead for like 15 minutes, and then he comes back and he has all this details about where he's been and what has happened. But one thing that's fascinating, they all say, again, whether they're going to heaven or hell,

is they communicate through like telepathy. No one actually speaks. It's all through their mind. So in my mind, I hear that. I think, well, in the spirit realm, this is how they communicate. It's not from the mouth, like how we are. and when you hear these alien encounters, every eyewitness says the same thing. You communicate through what seems to be telepathy.

Do you think there, and I know you're thinking, well, these are aliens from some other place, which could be true. I don't know one way or another, but do you think there might be something dark, darker to this whole thing? I mean, you, just like people, you have to have, I mean, there's bad people and there's good people. Do I believe all, you know, aliens or extraterrestrials are good? No. Do I believe there are good ones? Yeah. Do I believe there's more than just one type? Absolutely. I mean, look at how many different races of people there are in the world. That's just kind of how I think of it.

You know, it's interesting. I bring up the dark part because I've probably interviewed off the air, maybe a dozen or more people who claimed to have been taken. And there was a famous UFO researcher, gosh, I wish I could remember his name. He was kind of outcasted from the UFO world. But this guy was actually a real scientist. He was, you know, as far as researchers go, he was top of the food chain when it came to researchers. And coincidentally, enough, he was an atheist. And what was fascinating through his research, through interviewing eyewitnesses who have been taken, he started to come across where people would cry out in Jesus Christ's name. I'm not religious. I don't go to church. That's not where I'm going with this.

But what was fascinating with his research is time, time again, when people would cry out and use that name, the process of being taken would stop. And, you know, through interviewing eyewitnesses, the same question comes up every time. You know, why do you think this is going on? Why do you think that there's an interest in you or your daughter? Why did you become the target? hit. I have no idea. I have during the encounter, I had so many questions like I was more curious like why, why are you here? Like why aren't we allowed to touch? Why, you know, they really didn't seem interested in her at the time. I mean, from me, them telling me to push her away and interacting with me only at that at that point in time i i don't know and why now why is she seeing them now why are they

you know i there's there's just so many questions that i have that no one really has answers to how old is your daughter and what what has happened with her um well just the like she um so she's 15 they watch her um you know you know You can hear noises, like how I described the, it's kind of like an insect and, like, a, tech, like, a mechanic, like, I don't know, it's weird, like a mechanic bug noise. she's had dreams of these giant like eight-foot aliens and she's supposed to make it through salt flats and she was telling one of our friends this dream and I was like before I asked you this question and I showed her what I had put on the number I had on my fingers and I had asked her I'm like how many toes did you see in the salt flats when you were walking to these aliens?

And she said four. And I had the number four on my hand. So there's a lot of similarities. There's a lot of, then there's probably more that she hasn't told me. She shares when she feels like she knows that she can talk to me about this stuff when she needs to and if she's having a hard time. and I tell her to keep a dream journal and just for references for herself. Can I ask kids?

As a mother, though, I mean, and don't take this as criticism. That's not where I'm going. I'm thinking, because I have kids too. And if my kid was telling me he was being taken, I would do everything in my power to put an end of that real quick. Does it concern you that this is going on with her? it does it does um but what like i mean you talk to a psychiatrist you're crazy you tell family members oh that didn't happen i mean what are the what are the cops really going to do they're like

if they're going to take you they're going to take you one way or another i there no one's going to stop them she doesn't feel that they're they're they're bad she doesn't feel like they're um going to hurt her um she gets freaked out here and there i mean it it's she gets scared but how can i how can i protect her from that short short from locking her in the house all the time you know or like a lot of the times we'll do we'll go outside and you know do the outside stuff together. There's always somebody with her or, you know, that's the best way I know how to kind of,

if a situation were to happen where she's completely terrified, at least somebody is there with her. When they come to your daughter, what are some things that they, what do they say to her? They don't really talk to her. I don't think she's actually had a conversation from what she's told me. They're just there.

They watch her. Yeah, I would imagine it's, you know, a pretty helpless feeling. I think that's how I would feel is very helpless. And I'd be looking to put a bullet in one of these things. Not that my attitude is the right way by any means. you know when I interviewed uh Travis Walton the Fire in the Sky guy Travis's encounter is a thousand times more interesting than what's in that movie they added a bunch of stuff that it was I really don't get why they didn't just go off

of the original story because it was way more interesting than what was in that movie but you know when I was talking to Travis he was describing the grays and he told me he said, you know, I felt like they were robots or that they were being controlled by something, like an avatar or something like that. Did you get that impression when these things were in your room? It's, I kind of feel like that's a catch-22

because the one that I was interacting with seemed like it had, like it was a living thing. The two at the bottom of the bed were just there and then the one in the doorway like I said was more like a general he oversaw there wasn't

he was just there so I can see how that would how he would feel that way too like I've never really thought of it that way I really didn't have enough time to

to actually process in the moment like is this a real thing or not you know it's never really crossed my mind. Yeah, it's so strange. You know, like I said, I've talked to several eyewitnesses off the air. This happened to you. It started back in 2009. I remember one of the cases I remember

the most. I talked to this lady who, um, it, I didn't know what to do with it. I didn't know if I should put her on the air or, um, I just didn't know how to handle it. And basically, what had happened was she was starting to be taken. And then her daughter was starting to be taken. And she had sent me pictures of behind both of their ears. It looked like there was a piece of metal or something underneath the skin. And she didn't know what it was. And the weird part of was they never bothered the husband. It was only her and her daughter. And, you know, she could pinpoint when it started, but she couldn't really explain why it started. And this was frustrating. Like in your situation, you can go back and look at, okay, in 2009,

I was on this camping trip and this weird thing happened. And then you became the target. But I guess the question I have is why? Why did you become the target? And I think in almost everyone I've ever spoken to who has this going on, they don't know why. They can go back to when, but they don't know why. Right. Your guess is as good as mine. I have no idea. And you've never really pinpointed exactly what they want from you? No. The only time I actually got to interact was when I woke up and they were in my room. And, I mean, it was minimal conversation. I feel like if I had more time,

I feel like if we didn't touch, I would have had more time to maybe ask more questions. But that was the last actual, like, encounter physically with them. Yeah, and I'm somewhat of a hypocrite in asking you this, because A, I don't think I could be hypnotized. I don't think I have the focus to be hypnotized. And B, I don't think I would do it because I'm not willing to give someone that sort of power over me. But I know, you know, for some people, I have heard where it does help them.

Have you ever thought about being hypnotized and finding out what happened during all this missing time? I mean, I don't know if there's really anybody in my area without driving, you know, two, three hours to somebody who could do that. I would love to know what actually happen in the time frame that I'm missing because there's two encounters that it just wasn't, you know, oh, I fall asleep and I woke up. It was a good, you know, four or five hours. And I don't know what happened. I could have been abducted. I could, you know, I don't know. I have no idea.

Is this something that you would like to stop? I guess curiosity is probably going to get the better of me. For Samaya, yes I would like it to stop for her I want answers I just want to know I guess knowledge is power I guess in a sense I just want to know

like I have so many questions so many like why what's what's out there why are you doing this to me Why are people, you know, going missing? Why? Is it something when they come, are they, is it consistent? Is it like every four to six months?

Is it once a year? I mean, how, when they show up, I mean, what kind of consistency are they showing up? It's very sporadic. I mean, the most, most of the, like, a good bulk of them that are, are, the three that I told you between 2009 and 2011. So that's when it was more condensed into those encounters, but it's just sporadic. I might go a year and a half without anything happening.

And then bam, you know, there's lights in the sky or, you know, the time span between me and her being in the barn and hearing that noise to us being in the backyard and the run-in that was probably

about a year apart between those two but it's always when it's foggy like you can't see anything it's always foggy is it a natural fog? I don't know. I think it is

we're more like we're on a hill but we have a lot of ravines so you know the fog is really really thick like there's if i'm standing in my driveway i won't be able to see you know 40 feet away because the fog's so thick yeah i'm trying to put myself in your shoes jacquelin um and maybe i just don't handle things in a mature way. I mean, I can, I can admit to that. But, you know, if they were in my house, I mean, I'm probably going to hurt all of them. But it never crossed your mind, you know, get the hell out of my house or I'm going to kill all of you. No.

I mean, I've, I've had so much unexplainable things happen. and I've seen so many unexplainable things, some weird things, that I already kind of was interested in stuff like this, like the paranormal and, you know, the cryptids and stuff like that, that it's always kind of, it's always kind of been a part of my life experiencing stuff like this. I feel like that's why I wasn't 100% like terrified and in panic. What kind of weird things have you seen?

I mean, I've had stuff thrown at me. I've had like paranormal poltergeist type things. My very first memory of anything weird, I was probably four years old, and I saw a black ball of spaghetti noodles intertwining in my bedroom in the corner, and it would drop down and elongate, and then it would suck back into this ball and keep rotating, and it just rolled. And there were a whole bunch of little black spaghetti noodles. The inside was a dark black, but then the outside edges of the noodle.

That's the only way to kind of describe it was like a misty gray. And I was four years old. I was actually laying in bed with my mom because I had woke up in the middle of the night. And my mom was sleeping and I'm just looking at this ball of noodles in the room. I have had, I was in a house. I've had rocks thrown at me from inside the house. I've had windows slam shut. I've seen things walk through my house.

I've had something talked to me after I had my youngest and it looked like a kind of like a solid black rabbit but it wasn't it didn't have ears it was the darkest black I could have I could even imagine

it poked its head up behind the couch I was laying on it said hey do you want to play a game I'm like, no, leave me alone. Let's play two sticks. And I said, no. And I went to go and turn over and it turned into dust and I inhaled it. And I sat up and I coughed so hard that I threw up all over my floor. Like I've always had weird things.

Things scuttling through the bottom of my yard through the woods. pictures on my, I have like a barn cam that's set up so I can keep an eye on the horses, faces in the barn on the wall, pictures of rakes. Like the list goes on and on and on and on. So this is actually happening in the home you live in now? Yes. And I've actually had a Wiccan priestess come and do a property blessing. and we planted coins on all four directions of the property and blessed it and stuff still happens.

Do you think there's a correlation between this poltergeist activity and the alien activity, or do you think there are two separate things? I feel like they're two separate things. Not every, like, I've lived in two houses. well technically well yeah the only time i really had any issue when i was young was just that one time with the ball of rotating spaghetti um but there i've only been in two houses that had like major stuff really really happen it's not everywhere that i move that i experience everything What do you think is causing the poltergeist activity at the home you live in now?

So just not our property. Our area was originally just campsites. And then it turned into people building houses on it. So there's a lot of just untouched woods. And then I actually don't live in. very far from Lilydale. I don't know if you've ever heard of Lilydale. No. They have mediums there, their spirits there. It's kind of like, I really don't know how to explain it.

There's a lot of supernatural stuff that happens there, and it's actually like their own community. You know, I was telling you on and off the air that I've interviewed. probably a dozen or so people who have claimed to have been taken and actually believe the ones that I've spoken with that they, something's going on. One thing that is fasting with all of their accounts, the one lady I was telling you about where she had the thing behind her ear and her daughter had the same thing behind her ear. Originally, I got the email from her because she had seen Sasquatch on her property, but it was very brief. It was very quick. And she went into this long, long encounter of being taken. What was fascinating with her account

is she would describe paranormal stuff going on in the home, dolls that would turn their head and watch her wherever she went in the room. It sounded like poltergeist activity to me. but one thing I will say is out of all the 12 people I've talked to, the paranormal stuff comes up. Like there's some weird polter guy. Every single one of them had some form of poltergeist activity in the home. And that's why I was kind of curious if you thought they're related or not. Coincidentally, everyone I've asked, you know, do you think they're related? The answer is no.

But they all have it. I mean, there could be. I don't feel like it is, but it could very well be. I don't know. I don't feel like it. There's a, you know, it's linked together. But there's a lot of stuff we still don't know. You know what I mean?

Yeah. And I don't know if they're related or not. I just find it interesting that that one little fact of this paranormal activity inside the home is going on. while these people are experiencing these alien encounters. I know you said you kind of lived in an area where there's a lot of weird paranormal stuff going on, but what do you think is actually causing it in the home? I couldn't even tell you. I have no idea.

Like it's not a continuous thing. Like it'll be quiet for a while and then pick right back up, and then it'll be quiet for a while and then pick right back up. When your daughter says they watch her, what does she mean by that? Are they watching from the wood line? How are they watching her? So when it's foggy, they're actually in the fog. She kind of explains it.

She says she sees silhouettes moving around. You can tell when they're crouching down to look at her when she's in the barn. the wood line we have probably like two acres of you know open yard it's on like a little hill and then it goes down into the wood line and a ravine her windows she she's very very adamant about curtains being closed once it starts getting dark out it's when she's outside like She says they always watch her. And usually it's just at night. It's scary.

It's hard for me to put myself in your shoes because I've never experienced that. And I can't say exactly how I would react. I can tell you how I think I would react. But I really appreciate you taking the time to share this. I know it's very personal. And I know from past experience, it's very hard to get someone to come on and talk about this going on. But I think it goes on more than people realize.

And I think your testimony will definitely help people who are kind of going through the same thing. Because you feel kind of alone. You feel kind of, I mean, I can imagine you would feel alone, you know, experiencing this. And so I really appreciate you sharing it. And will you keep me up to date? Let me know if anything else happens. Yeah, I can do that. And you're welcome.

I mean, I heard fire in the same. sky and I don't share a lot of my experiences because, oh, you're crazy. Like, it's, it's the looks that you get. It's the, you know, that never happened or you're just making stuff up type thing that doesn't make you want to share. But like you said, I feel like, like, there's a lot more of this going on than people want to admit or come forward and talk about it. And you get both. Like you'll have people that don't believe you and then you'll have people that believe you undoubtedly don't let the ones that doubt you like discourage you sharing your stories because there's always somebody who's going to believe you and they're going to be interested in what you have to say

and how you experienced it and how you handle it. Yeah, well said, well said. And I do think that this goes on more than probably the general public realizes. And, you know, I just really appreciate your time. Thank you again. You're welcome. Next up on the show, I want to welcome Eric. Eric, thanks for coming on. Thank you, Wes.

Thanks for the opportunity to share my experience. And I know this happened to you in New York, Eric. And I want to talk about the most recent incident first that happened with you, your daughter, but kind of leading up to this, you had a lot of weird things happen. Let's kind of start with you and your daughter, going back in January. What were you guys doing? And what happened? Oh, sure.

Back in January, one night after dinner, my daughter suggested that we take an after-dinner walk. and close to my house there's a there's a road that goes into like a nature area it's like a preserved state nature preserve and a preserved water waterway

and she specifically wanted to go down to the water and it was something that I at this point I was trying to like work myself up to do it night because of past experiences, but since my daughter wanted to do it on this night, I'm like, okay, I can't let my seven-year-old, you know, be braver than me. So we strapped on some headlights, and I took my dog with me. I have a small dog. And we went ahead and started

walking down. The road is completely unlit, and it dead ends out of waterway. And it's wooded on both sides. The road itself is only probably about a half mile long, maybe. So we started walking down, and we made it probably a good, like, three quarters of the way, 80% of the way down to the water. And we came to a tire track that had been, had some ice in it. And, you know, my daughter couldn't resist running and jumping on. the ice and breaking the ice.

So she did that. And when she did that, it made like, you know how like when a puzzle, my puddles frozen for a long time, it kind of becomes like hollow underneath. So it was kind of a louder noise than I kind of anticipated. But almost as soon as she did that, off to my left in the wooded area,

I would approximate probably, like 60 feet away from me in the brush, in the trees. It sounded like a loud, like something very heavy hitting the ground. And immediately, and there was no noise afterwards, just a thump. And you could tell it, to me, it sounded like something very heavy, just hitting solid ground. And, you know, my daughter's there like playing around in the ice. So I, you know, asked her to be quiet. And we stood still for a moment or so.

just to listen to see if I could hear anything or if we could see anything. Unfortunately, the lights that we were using weren't great. They were like stocking stuffers from years ago. So it wasn't like I could probably see probably like 20 or 30 feet in front of me, like on the road. But once you shine that into the wooded and brushed area, it couldn't really see much at all, to be honest. So I decided we decided I didn't hear anything I asked my daughter if she wanted to continue on She didn't even seem that noise didn't even seem to faze her

So we continued on We made it down to the water Hung out for a couple minutes and turned around and started to head back And we made it probably a good you know 90% 85 90% of the way back home when we came across another tire track that had ice in it. So I was curious, and I asked my daughter, you know, go ahead, jump on the ice, break it, let's see. And she does so.

And once again, like almost immediately after she does this, it makes a loud noise. And now it's off to my left again, but this would be the opposite side of the road because we're, were going in the opposite direction. Off in the woods, I would estimate probably 80 to 100 feet away. There was these very odd vocalizations. It was like whooping was like a weird, for lack of a better term, like chattering noise at the end. And to me it seemed like there was two different individuals in the same area,

in the same spot. because the noises, they probably whooped three or four times, and there was times where they overlapped a little bit. And that was very bizarre. I've never heard anything like that. I've listened to your show now for a couple of years, and I haven't heard anything on your show either that I could really compare that to.

So, once again, I ask. my daughter to, you know, remain quiet so we could just listen and observe. And it's wonderful. I must be wonderful being seven because none of this stuff is really like phasing her. So she does so. And as we're waiting, I'm slowly looking around, you know, the light is strapped to my head. So I'm slowly just shining the light around and seeing if I could see anything. and as I'm looking behind us from where we came down towards the water

my daughter like just runs and collides into me she wasn't very far away for me to begin with but she just like collides into me and she just grabs onto my waist and clutches on to me and she says daddy there's a man there's a man up up there and I turn and I look I said where honey where's the man and she points up ahead on the path and I don't see anything. So I said, what do you mean? There's a man.

And she said, there was a man. He walked from this side of the street across to the other side of the street. And I said, okay, well, what did he look like? And he said, it was just a guy. She just basically saw a black figure. So now I'm very cautious, because I don't know if this is, you know, some weirdo or what or it could be the

there's two things going through my mind it's either it's either a Sasquatch or some weird guy that's just hanging out in the dark at night so we walk up and as we get closer to the spot on the road

where she saw the figure crossed by she told me so and we took a few minutes to look around and I couldn't see any indication of anything. I mean, the road in the ground was hard frozen anyway, so I wasn't expecting to see any kind of tracks or anything. But I was looking to see if there was like anything like in the brush or anything like snapped branches or leaves that were kicked up that made it look like somebody walked through. And I couldn't see

anything. So we continued on. We went back home. We were back home in probably less than 10 minutes. And as we're back home and, you know, taking her coats off or whatnot, I asked my daughter, could you, could you, again, could you describe to me what this, what this man looks like? and the only thing that I could the only additional information that I got out of her was that she knew that that he was staring at us

and then cross the road and went into the woods and I tried to like do my best to try to get more information out of her without like leading her on so I'm like well about how tall was the man.

And she says, oh, he was about your size. So I'm like, okay. And that was that experience. The reason why when she first asked me to go on this walk, I was a little reluctant to do so was I've had a few experiences that in the past years

that made me think that the swamp land is either a place where these animals could possibly live or my gut's kind of telling me that maybe they just pass through here a few times a year. Tell me about your previous experiences there. Sure. So before the one, before our walk, we're back in October of, actually sorry, we're

back in May of 2024. And it was a morning. It was morning. And my wife had asked me to go to the grocery store and pick up like eggs and milk or something. So I get in my car. This, this, all of these have to do with that same swamp area, that same protected wildlife area in this road. So I head down towards that road Obviously I'm not going to go down the road because it's a dead end

But it's a way to get through to where I was going And it's kind of a little embarrassing to admit this But I had stopped I was looking straight down that road But the reason why I stopped on the road was because I played Pokemon Go And that area was The building next to me was a

was a gym and I was trying to take down the Pokemon gym. So I'm sitting there in my car. My car is parked idling on the street. There's nobody around. It's a quiet morning. No traffic, no. There's generally not much going on here on the weekends anyway, which is wonderful. But for whatever reason, it might have been just me glancing up out of the windshield because I was sitting in the road.

but I look out my front windshield. And I see what looks like at first I thought it was a black bear. And it's in the middle of that dirt road probably about 300 feet in front of me. And it's just standing there. It's on all fours and it's standing there. But something about,

I couldn't like take my eyes. off of it because something about it was just off. It was very skinny, very thin. It really looked like it didn't have much weight on it at all. I could see that the front legs were much longer than the back legs. And at first I thought it had black fur, but I had, after looking at it, I mean, I had a good look at it. It was probably a good minute and a half look at this. And after looking at it, I realized that the fur was not black. It was more of like

a dark brown. And the thing that really made me think that this is weird is I wasn't able to see a snout or ears on the head. And as I'm more than watching it, it's just sitting there. And it did turn and look at me a couple times. I couldn't make out of any kind of face or anything or any kind of features. And then it would look back in the direction that

it was apparently heading. And every time it did this, again, I couldn't make out any kind of ears or nose. It just looked like a round head with a flat face where the snout usually would

be. and after a moment it took a step forward there was a large puddle on the side of the road and it bent down I don't know if it took a drink or if it just like sniffed at the water and then it just casually walked into the woods on the other side of the road

so I went and I ran my errand thinking that's weird I either just saw a big foot or a very sick sickly or a bear that had some kind of deformity or something but uh when i ran my errand it only took you know probably 15 20 minutes i came back i dropped off the groceries uh with my wife and i said to her what i just said to you i either just saw the the weirdest looking bear i've ever saw or uh it was a It was something, a big foot.

And she kind of laughs and whatever. So I'm like, you know what? My wife was baking and stuff. She kind of wanted me to leave her, do her thing. So I'm like, you know what? I'm going to take this opportunity. I walked down to where that big puddle was. And just to see, once again, if I could see any kind of evidence that this thing was there.

and I found what, in my opinion, in the middle of that puddle, looked like a partial print, partial footprint. And I estimated it to be about 15 inches long. And I took a picture of it. And again, I looked on that side of the road in the brush and in the trees and stuff. But there was no other indication that that animal had passed through there. Can I ask you, how far away from you was this weird-looking bear? And could you make out the face?

No, I would say it was about, I'm kind of a terrible judge of distance, but I would say probably like 300 feet in front of me. And I couldn't see any kind of face. It was just kind of black. towards the edges of its body, the way the sun was, the sun was kind of, it was morning time, so the sun was still kind of behind it. And I could tell by the way the light was hitting it that the fur was actually a brown, like a dark brown color as opposed to like a black, like I initially thought it was. But as you moved in from the edges of the body, it got dark, you know, like just dark like black, like a black color. But I think that was more just the way the light was hitting it.

But no, I couldn't see, I couldn't make out any details. I couldn't see like any hands or feet. Any detail like that. I couldn't see like a face. Just saw this large creature in front of me on all fours. And I don't know. I don't like myself, to be honest, I don't know what it was. To me, you know, it could have been a bear, but there were several things about it that I thought looked very strange.

And I've seen bear, there are bear around here, obviously. I've seen them in the neighborhood before, and I've seen them in zoos and whatnot. And after this happened to me, I went online and I started looking for pictures of like black bears, black bears at a distance, emaciated black bears, black bears with the mange, all these kinds of things to kind of see if I could get something that looked kind of like what I was looking at. And I ruled out the mange because it didn't have any of that weird. like the fur was still very full and emaciated it I mean it was very thin but I didn't think it looked like sickly thin

but like the major red flag was that I felt like even at that distance I should still be able to see a snout in ears like a bearhead but it didn't it just had like this round like a round head at the end of the neck with like where the face should have been

was flat. And I couldn't see any details other than that. Was it about the size of a black bear? I want to say that it was a little bigger because the other thing when I walked down there was it took up

and you know, maybe you could correct me if I'm wrong. I'm by far no expert when it comes to wildlife. But from my point of view, when I was looking at it. It seemed, it was about standing almost completely to the left side of the road, but its body took up a little bit more than half of the road. And this is a single lane dirt road. And if I had to estimate how wide it is across the road, it's probably about 12 feet, 10 or 12 feet across. So I would put this thing from like the tip of its head to its back, high in quarters,

to be, you know, five to six feet from the head to the back. So it probably doesn't put it out of bare range. But to me it seemed, once I walked down there to where the puddle was, I was like, wow, this thing seems like bigger than I thought it was when I was looking at it from, you know, up the street. So it reminds me of when I talk to hunters and they always say, well, you know, I've never seen Sasquatch, but then they start describing this weird bear that they saw and it sounds nothing like a bear. And, you know, Black Bear, they're very skittish. If they smell you or get a sense that you're in the area, nine times out of ten, a black bear will scatter. It'll get out of there as quickly as possible. And they're not going to hang around. This thing, especially at the flag, flat face, but it knew you were there. It was obviously looking back at you. Right. It looked right at me. I could tell, like, I could see its head turn and look at me and then turn back.

And it was obvious that it saw me. It definitely knew I was there. And that was my past experience, too, with Black Bearers. Like, whenever I've seen them around here, they're always, like, running away. That's, like, when I catch them. It's like, they're running away. Because we've had them come through the neighborhood before. And again, like even the way a bear moves was different than this thing kind of casually just rolled off. Yeah, your description and its behavior sounds nothing like a bear. Tell me about the other incidences. Okay, so the next one would be back in October of 2023, just for a little context and to paint a little bit of a picture of this area here.

My house is on a corner, and this woodland, this swamp area, is, I could see it for my house. It's a stone throwaway, a very quick, like a, every second walk. I could be in the swamp over there. And there's a train line that, in order to get into that swamp land, you have to cross a metro-north rail line. And so there's trains that come through. You know, they have their schedule and the trains come through, you know, on the weekdays, like twice an hour and on the weekends a little less. So on this morning, I woke up, it was about 4.30 in the morning, which in itself is not unusual. I go to work every morning at 6 a.m. and it's not unusual for me to wake up before my alarm sometime in the 4 o'clock hour.

So that in itself wasn't unusual. But I woke up and as I'm sitting there and trying to go back to sleep, I hear outside my house, you know, we didn't have any of the windows open or anything. The windows were closed. And across, again, in the direction of this swamp land, I heard a howl. Actually, it was two howls. the first one was louder than the second one and that one was comparable to the Ohio

how the only difference being is that it was a shorter duration and then at the end of it there was a very audible so the first one goes off and it was loud and then like two or three seconds later it goes off again almost identical to the first one but it sounded like it was a little bit farther away and this preceded a train coming down the line by about 40 seconds so I'm sitting there I'm laying in bed I'm like that was weird and I'm

like laying there obviously listening to see if there's if there was going to be any anymore there wasn't, but I got this image in my head of whatever was making this noise. Like my gut instinct was, whatever this was, knew that this train was coming down the line, made this vocalization, and then started running or walking down this path to get away from it, and made another vocalization as it was doing so. But again, that was just my interpretation. of what I heard. And that was the incident that actually,

that was around the time that I actually found your show and started listening to your show, which is super helpful. Like, it puts some things into hindsight, like, you know, into hindsight, like these reference points such as the Ohio Hal and some of the behaviors of these things. So going back to,

the initial first incident. Now we're back into May of 2020 and we're in the heart of the coronavirus and especially here in New York, everything is locked down. We're right in the heat of all of that. So one night in May, it's about, I was out there for a while, but I made a small fire in my backyard and I was just out there alone with my small dog. The neighborhood was very quiet. They weren't running any trains that was all shut down for COVID. Very quiet out there. Nobody was out. Very quiet evening. It was very nice. So I'm out there having a small fire with my dog just trying to shake some cabin fever. And about 1130 that night, again, I had been out there for a couple hours at that point.

I hear not in the swamp land, but in the opposite direction, also very close to me across, my house is located at an intersection. And across the intersection in the one direction is this swamp land, the railroad tracks and the wetland.

Going across the intersection in the other direction is the local element. school and then there's an administrative building for the school there and there's like what I found out after this is there's a patch of trees there that I could see and from that patch of trees there was a wood knock or what I like had to be a wood knock I've never had any experience with wood knocks before this was like something that totally caught me off guard It sounded like somebody

Like hitting a home run with a baseball bat Whack So that happens off in that direction towards the school yard And then In the opposite direction In that definitely in that swamp lamp And not like at the beginning of it Like a little ways into it

There's a second one And then Back at the first position Another whack And then there was a brief pause and then back in the swamp, another whack. And as this happens, I'm, like, I'm fully alert. All the hair on my body is standing up.

And I'm kind of like in flight or flight, because, like, I could feel the adrenaline drum, but I'm kind of a dump, but I'm just kind of sitting there, like, what is going on? Like, that is definitely some, like, wood knock finding Bigfoot stuff. Like, I was totally not expecting that. it left such a mark on me,

because this is like a residential area. There's that protected woodland. And what I discovered after this is after looking at like satellite images in Google Earth, that there is a, that protected watershed, it connects to, very close to here is a town where they shot an episode of Finding Bigfoot. It was the episode where they had the VHS. tape that had like the

the Sasquatch walking through the trees and what a lot of people think is a young one that goes up into the tree and it's all like backlit. That took place not very far from here. And all this, when you look at Google Earth, you

can see that all of these woodlands are connected. And another thing is that this river also connects them. So it left such a an imprint on me, this experience that I reported it says a BFRO the very next day. So one of their, I wish I remember his name, but I'm kind of bad with names.

But there was a gentleman that contacted me a few days after that. And I spoke to him for probably about an hour about it. And, you know, he kind of reassured me. He's like, it definitely sounds like it's like a wood knock, like wood knocking. And he reminded me that there was that, you know, that major incident up the road a few miles. And then he told me something that was very interesting, which was this river that runs through here. Down south, it goes into a state park called Faunstock State Park. It's very large.

and he said that this is he was telling me that they had an ongoing investigation there it's not none of it is published on their webpage but apparently that past winter somebody had a like a clear siding of one and then they found like a very clear trackway in the snow along this waterway and they were actively investigating that

as I was recently had investigated that as I was talking to this gentleman from the BFRO. I always had like an interest in Bigfoot and Saskatch from a young age. You know, as I grew older

into adulthood, it kind of faded away, you know, you get, you get, you know, you focus on on other things in your life. But after that initial thing with the Woodnox, it kind of brought it all back. The interest came back. now I'm hooked on it again.

Now I'm looking. I'm looking for answers. I'm looking for other people that are near me that may have had similar experiences just to talk to them and see, you know, what's going on. Is this a credible thing, or am I losing my mind a little bit? But, and eventually, like, after that first one, I had no, no idea that there was going to be other incidences. I mean, they are kind of spread apart, but I think these little incidences on their own are kind of unremarkable,

but together it makes me feel like there's definitely some kind of, again, my gut is telling me that I think that these things cross through here several times a year. And another thing in hindsight that I didn't connect until later was not soon after that happened, probably within a week of that happening. Again, it's in the heat of the coronavirus. Normally I would work early mornings into the day, but during corona, my schedule was like all over the place. To be honest, I was working kind of around the other staff because, I didn't want to have to wear a mask or do any of that kind of stuff.

I preferred to be there by myself so I could just do my thing and uninterrupted. So one night, I'm at work, and my wife calls me and says, please come home because I saw a man outside of the kitchen window. Okay, dropped what I was doing. I work very close to where I live. I'm home within five minutes. Come running in the house? What's going on?

Because I'm thinking like there's some kind of shenanigans going on. And my wife, I'm like, what are you talking about? There was a guy outside. She's like, there was a guy. I'm like, what do you mean a guy? What did he look like? And she said, I couldn't tell. It was just a tall man.

Oh, I could just see the shape of a tall man out the window. And I said, well, what was he doing? He was just standing there. and it looked it seemed like he was looking at me and i said well what did he do after that and she said i she like looked down and she was doing the dishes at the kitchen sink and she looked down at what she was doing for a second and when she looked back up he was gone and again that that might be that might be nothing it might be just a coincidence but thinking back on it and the in the relative closeness of the wood knock incident and this within like a week i'm like

Like, I don't know. I don't want to rule out the possibility. I will say that if these things are venturing out of the swamp land, I don't know. And, you know, picturing like these immense creatures. I don't know. They've got to have some skills not to be seen. I mean, there are enough dark areas wherever. I guess you could get by it, but I don't know.

It was either somebody standing there that she saw or what. I don't know. And that's unusual here. I could tell you that. I've been here since 2015, and I never had any incidences with, like, trespassers or anything like that. So that night, though, Bigfoot wasn't on my mind. It was more like, there's this guy, and my wife is all alone.

So I check the house. I reassure a reminder of, you know, where the 12 gauge is and how to load her up and rock and roll. And I said, you know, are you comfortable with me going back to work? And she said, yes. I said, well, just I locked all the doors before I left. And I said, please call me immediately if anything else happens. And I did end up setting like a trail camera out there to try to. Because at that time, I was thinking it was just like an intruder.

I ended up not getting anything. So I don't know if that was a coincidence, but in hindsight, it just makes me feel, like, Like, maybe it couldn't have been. Maybe it could have been one of these things, but I don't know. Yeah, it seems like a weird coincidence. I completely get now why, you know, when you're out there with your daughter, your mind was going to Bigfoot. It does sound like, I mean, it seems like they're either passing through there

or they're there all the time. What do you think that these creatures are? So up until last night when I spoke to you, every time I listened to your show and this question would come up, I would always think to myself, I had like this big thought out answer and all of this stuff. But last night I'm like, okay, I guess now it's time to actually think of the answer, or at least in my opinion what the answer is. And made me think back at a lot of things. And a long time ago when I was in college, I went to school for video production. And while I was there, one of the classes I took, I made a half an hour documentary. And the documentary was called Life After Death. To make that video, I interviewed my childhood priest, the priest that was the head of the church when I made all of my sacraments.

He agreed to the interview. We sat down, we did the interview. Obviously, the topic was nothing to do with Bigfoot. It was about what happens after you die and ghosts and that kind of thing. At the end, you know, we're packing up, it was me and a few other students. We're packing up the cameras and the lights and stuff. And the priest was just having a casual conversation. as we're doing this.

And he says to me, he's like, you know, there's some things on this earth that predate us and that we were never meant to interact with. But if you go looking for it, you might actually find it. And it wasn't meant to be words of like encouragement. It was more like words of warning.

So I think that's the message I'm going to stick to with Sasquatch. it's something that maybe we were never meant to understand and something that maybe we can understand. You know, taking into account me personally, like, I find it very hard to believe in some of the more paranormal and supernatural things that some people say that these things are capable of. But, you know, like you say over and over again on your show, it would be insane. in a way to discredit that outright just because it sounds weird. So taking all that into account, I'm going to stick with what my childhood priest said to me all those years ago, that this is a being or an energy that human being were never meant to interact with.

But if you go looking for it, someday somebody might actually catch up to it. Yeah, it's hard to know what they are. Definitely hard to understand really what these things are. And, you know, I get now why your mind was going to Bigfoot, especially with these other things that happened to you. And I really appreciate you taking the time to come on and share it. Keep me up to date, will you? Let me know if anything else happens. Oh, definitely. And thank you for opening up this avenue for me to do. so thank you very much. Thanks so much, Eric. And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at saskwotchch Chronicles.com.

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