Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:1138 The Joker Laugh

Episode Date: March 16, 2025

Kris writes " In early January I decided to head to RMNP west of Estes Park to hike up and snowboard down an old ski hill there. This is something I've done many times on my own and often there are others doing the same. Although I think it's a bit more rare to go at night, you'll still see folks up there hitting a line a night with head lamps and lights. This time I decided to go at night on my own. I did tell 3 friends where I was going and actually texted one friend a starry Pic from the trailhead. The trailhead lot was empty as we're the ranger stations on the way in. So, at this point I headed up the hill. It usually takes about an hour depending on snow conditions. I had a snowboard, a backpack with snacks and a Bluetooth speaker. I typically opt out of using snowshoes because Ive got to carry them down as well. I threw on the whole Sabbath paranoid album to get my head straight and motivated. The hill is a limited number of runs with low angles so there is really no avalanche danger. A week prior, I did the exact same thing. A night hike and boarded down. So, I was confident and enjoying the solace. Even over the sabbath, I could here the wind moving tall trees and flakes hitting the ground. The trail isn't challenging going up and the terrain opens and closes with the trees in the background. About 45 minutes in, I am at the point where the hill opens up and is peppered with trees in the ski slope. The sides are surrounded by darkness due to the trees around. My speaker suddenly says "low battery". I kept walking to the top where the hill funnels you into a narrow trail between more trees. ( i had my phone, so i could point this part out on Google maps) Right then, I decide to reach back and turn off the speaker so I don't have to hear the low battery alert. I continue up this narrow trail for about 80 yards, just short of thr length of a football field. Only hearing the flakes landing, wind, and my crunchy boot prints, out of nowhere came the loudest BARK, with a roaring echo, I've ever heard. At this point, I froze. My whole body went into shock. I went from nice n warm because of all the movement to cold as ice. I lost feeling in my lips. I didn't know what to do, or say or.... So I did what I've done on a couple occasions. I channeled my inner Phil Anselmo and ripped the biggest scream I could. I yelled HEY! With everything I had. I wanted to Guage where this noise came from so I yelled. After, I sat down shaking. About 15 heartbeats later, BARK! At that moment I knew it was in the trees down from me. Silence in-between these barks so I know it wasn't moving. I got into my bag and took out 3 lights I use for night biking. All of which are at least 1000 lumens. I pointed one up the trail, one down the trail, and one right in front of me into the trees. I listened and heard nothing. I'm thinking, did I imagine this? So I go HEY one more time. Sure enough, about 10- 15 heartbeats later, BARK. I almost started crying as I strapped my snowboard faster than I ever could have otherwise. I'm freaking out in silence as I think I'm about to board into this sound by heading down. As I'm thinking all of this, I've gotten ready and am about to stand up. This is where in the trees ahead of me, a crazy loud laughing started. Hat ha ha ha haha. It echoes as if there are multiple somethings laughing at me. Like a mad joker. I flipped at that point. Mentally freaked out. I was having trouble standing up because my hands were sinking into the snow. I quickly found a way and headed down faster than I would have in the day! I didn't sleep gor two nights, and still have trouble doing so. Thx for reading Wes. I was shaking and having a hard time writing this."   We will also be speaking to Augustus, he writes "My uncle just died and he told we to tell you about all of are interesting stories and the crazy we saw while hunting and horseback riding." Augustus is from Utah and shares strange encounters near his families property.

Did you hear that right there? Yeah. Let me back it up. I always call this a Scooby-Doo laugh. No, but anyway, I wanted to hear that Scooby-Doo thing. Yeah, that's wild. Yeah, it's like a rolling laugh, like, hoo-hoo-hoo! It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the...

had their head in the window of the deer blind and it either heard me or smelt me and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up and that shocked me. They don't make people that big. The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything moves like that in my life. They were screaming at each other in gibberish. Oh, what? It sounded like a language, and they were chuntering away back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forward.

I know what a bear looks like, and there is no way on this planet that what I saw the bears. What are you reporting? Sir? See somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That's son of a bitch is about six foot nine, I don't know. Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right in any.

Uh-uh. This is John from Ontario Canada. Ontario Canada and you're listening to Sasquatch Chronicles. Welcome to the show everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show plan for you. We'll be chatting with Augustus and Augustus comes to us from Utah and his family owns a bunch of property out there and they've had a lot of weird things happen on this property. Augustus has actually seen the creature. His little sister has seen the creature and I'll kind of let him go into it. We're also going to be chatting with Chris and Chris comes to us from Colorado. And very recently, he was out snowboarding at night and had this scary experience up on the

mountain. I'll kind of let him go into it. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance, check out saskwatch chronicles.com. You can become a member and get additional shows. And on last night's member show, I spoke to April, who is from Georgia, and she has this little tiny creature. Well, I won't say tiny. He's about 4'7, that keeps coming around her property.

She just bought this home back about six months ago, and this thing won't, basically won't leave her alone. And she talked about the creature actually coming in. to her home one night. And for the members, I posted the pictures of the handprint on the wall. So if you go back underneath that episode, please help. You'll see where I've updated it and added the pictures she sent me. Let's jump into it tonight.

I want to welcome Augustus to the show. Augustus, thanks for coming on. Happy to be here. Yeah, I'm happy to have you on, Augustus. and I know this takes place in Utah, and we're going back to 2018, if you would just kind of start from the beginning. Kind of walk me into how all of this unfolded. So back in 2018, my dad just got remarried, and she had four daughters. And we have this big giant camping trailer, but me getting to that age of 13, I needed some privacy.

I got myself a tent and we run hounds for bear and we were up on the bear hunt and I came in, set up my tent, everything like that, beautiful area. We went to bed that night and I have to use the bathroom far away from the camp because we don't want the dogs getting into it. So I wake up around 2, 2.30 a.m. and I wake up and go to the restroom. I throw on my little cheap headlamp and I start heading down the trail. I just realized that the woods are just like silent. There's not like any sound like not even crickets. It was just really eerie. And I keep walking and my light scans over this like hunched over thing like it looks like a player like a big bag player and I was like oh crap so I hurry and turned back to it and it's this thing hunched over hair everything like that

and I'm like oh it's a bear but then I realize we have hound dogs that are trained to bark at bears and not one's making a sound and then I'm sitting there and I see it turn its head towards me and I kind of see the side of its face. I think it got me its peripherals, and it hurries and stands up and just books it across this a couple yards to this creek and jumps the creek in one jump.

And it, I was sitting there just out of pure fear I could not move. And I don't, it was just like, I felt like I was having a panic attack or a hard attack. I didn't know what to do. and then I just had that fighter flight and I ran back into the trailer. And my dad's like, try to come in, he's like, what's going on? Why you're happy about anything?

I tell him, he's like, oh, you just saw something that's not true. And the next morning I went out there. And I was like, maybe it was my uncle who was a really big, tall guy playing a prank on me. So I go out there and I measure where his head was to the stick. And it measured eight and a half feet. Yeah, and I know that this is an area where your family ended up buying a bunch of property, but when you saw this saying, how far away from you was it? And if you would kind of describe what you were looking at?

Probably 20, 30 yards. It was like, do you know, like, when a gorilla is like on its knuckles and it's standing on its knuckles? Yeah. It was hunched over like that. which made me think it was a bear. But then I saw the shoulders rise up, and then it was standing just on its two legs, but still hunched over.

And instead of its head turning, its whole body turned towards me. And I saw the side of its face, and then it looked over at me, saw me, and then just took off running. It was like the color of the red clay in that area. I couldn't see the ear.

It was covered by hair, but it had like a nose. It wasn't like protruding like ours, but also wasn't extremely flat like some apes. But it was very flared out nostrils and like, but not completely flat like some apes. It was like a grayish color.

Oh, I got you. Yeah, the skin of the face was kind of that gray color. Let me ask you. I mean, you're out there with your family. Your family is, you know, they are major hunters in the area. and you've been doing this most of your life. What did you think it was?

Well, growing up, I always watched, like, the Finding Bigfoot and stuff. And so I, at the beginning, I was like, oh, that was Bigfoot. And then I saw it. And I was thinking in my head, I'm like, but Bigfoot's not real, blah, blah, blah. And I replayed it in my head, and I just started thinking, like, maybe it was a moose, or maybe it was a bear, or maybe for some reason my dogs weren't barking at it. But then I just keep going past it and remembering like it couldn't have been a bear. There's no bears that big in that area.

And there's no bears that run on two legs and jump creeks. And was that kind of the end for the night? That night, yes. But other nights, I did have some things that I didn't account to it being a Sasquatch until I listened to your show. Give me an example. What other things are you talking about? uh like we would the coyotes would start going off

at night and then on top of them would be this weird coyote like this deep throaty one that was just would out would cover them all like out make their sounds make them sound puny and just like this deeper sound it was kind of like the Ohio hal

but higher pitch and um like I said we run bears with dogs. And I'm sure you know, I've listened to you talk about the Coon Hunters, how those dogs, that's their drive and they don't want to do anything else. Nothing's going to stop them. One day we rig a bear, which is when we drive down the road and the dogs smell a bear and go crazy.

So we turn the dogs loose. They ran probably like 300 yards in the brush, and we hear one of them let out this like, like something had hit it. And then all the dogs come running back, jump in the dog box, won't come out. won't come out of the back of the truck. And one of them did have a broken rib. And then this was in 2020, we were on the same bear hunt, but probably I'd say two mountains over.

This area, we usually hunt out of trucks or side by sides, but this area is so rough. you can't get in there only with horses. So we walk in there with horses. We had an all-day hunt. And we're coming back down the road. And there's this tree covering the trail. But it's not like a tree fell over.

It's the whole root ball with the tree still attached to it across the road. And we were looking around and we couldn't see where it fell from or where it got pulled from. So it's like something had pulled it from another area and carried. and covered the road with it. It was a type of tree that was from the area. Like you could find it in the area, but like, we couldn't see where the tree came from. It's like, we looked around and like, you know how if a tree falls over

and the root ball comes with it, how there's that big clawed of dirt that you find where it came out of? That wasn't anywhere near it. We never found it. And last year, we know, two years ago bought some property up there, about 400 acres of land. we were getting this area ready and there was this big giant patch of woods in our backyard that we were cutting down to be able to plant more crops and graze the cattle better.

You know what I mean? We cut this whole area down and it seems like as soon as we cut this area down, we pissed something off. Like things started happening like we started losing chickens, a lot of chickens. We lost like a 300-pounder. bore we lost. No trace of it. And we did have a couple times where we did have something come up and smack the house, which it wasn't happening every night, but it happened enough to where my stepmom and my sisters stopped coming up there. And my little sister saw one at this, out of her, out of her bedroom window.

She, it was one night and she's sitting in there and she has all her friends over. She has a bunch of, she plays softball, so she has all her softball girlfriends over. And they're out back playing,

tagging the dark and running around, laughing, having fun, telling scary stories, everything like that. And apparently they went into her room for the bed that night. And they said walking, along the edge of the house, they could hear something like, they said it sounded like something

that was having a hard time breathing. Like, it was like congested or something. And they, we had this dog at that time. It was this bulldog and it made that sound like that hard to breathe sound. And so she and a couple of her friends went around the corner to go grab the dog out of her room. and go get the dog out from outside, thinking they maybe locked it outside. And she turned that corner and said she just saw this black silhouette

walking along the edge of the house, turn the corner of the house by her window, and then all her friends just start screaming. And then that was the last she saw of it, because she ran inside and hid. This whole area, I know all of this is kind of happening in the same area, and you guys decided to buy a property there. Is it a place where you guys live full time?

Or is it a place where you just kind of go to hunt? It's a place where we go to run cattle. So we're only there in the summer. And when did this happen, Augustus? Was this last summer? Last summer, yeah. I hear you. And you think all of this kind of started

because you guys decided to cut back the brush on the property? I don't. We lived in there for a couple months. But then as soon as we cut all that stuff out of there in that area, it started happening. Have you walked around this property and just see if you could find anything, any sort of trace as something being there? Yeah, I haven't like, there's some weird trails around there. They're like, it's too wide to be a deer trail, but it's too tall to be a bear trail.

You know what I mean? It looks like people are running around on our property. and we have had a couple times where you do get a weird like wet dog skunk smell around the house at night. Yeah, it definitely sounds like they're on the property, especially with your sister seeing them and then, you know, it's smacking the house. I know in your original email you had emailed me about your uncle before he passed away. You kind of had a conversation with him.

And it kind of meant a lot to you because, you know, your own. uncle had seen them. Did anything else happen before you had that conversation with your uncle? There actually, there is one where me and him actually did find a set of tracks. So we were on a lion hunt. We Mount Lion Hunt with these dogs too, and you have to find the track in the snow because they don't leave a lot of scent. And so we're horseback riding and we see this track, these tracks. And I don't know if you know this, but a mount lion walks like on a tiderope, you know what I mean? Yeah.

And so we see this tide rope walking. We're like, and it's deep snow. So we're thinking, oh, it's a tightrope cat walking and dragging its feet a little bit. We get up there and it's this, I'd say, I wear a size 12. It was probably about four sizes bigger than my, 400 bigger than my shoe. impression. It was like powder snow so you couldn't see the details, but you could

like shape it out if you know what I mean. We just saw it cross the road and then it went up on this hillside where it hit dirt again. That was the day I talked to my uncle. So I was riding with him and I was like, what was that? And he's like, I don't know. I was like, what do you think that bigfoot? He's like, because I don't know. I'm like, do you believe in Bigfoot?

He's like, I've had some experiences and I would say yes. I'm like Oh, what happened? I've had my experience. So I told him my experience. And then he told me his. And it was, he was 18 years old on a raccoon hunt. And they're just driving down the road, having a good time. Him and his buddies are drinking, laughing, having fun. And all of a sudden, the dogs freak out and start hiding underneath the truck. And it won't come out. So my uncle, He had one of the, he got one of these big spotlights for Christmas. You know the ones that plug into the cigarette outlet. And he was like supposedly like really powerful back then. Well, he turns it on and starts scanning the woodline. And he says he sees this little like four foot tall monkey thing hurry and run up the hill and just disappears like over the hill.

And then he hears something from the other side of the creek breaking branches. and like shaking trees and he starts freaking out and he hurries and gets in the truck he turns around and his headlights hit this he said it was identical

to the one he saw except way bigger he said about nine feet tall and it's sitting there shaking a tree and breaking branches and he said as as he was driving

peeling out he started throwing rocks at him in the truck yeah And may your uncle rest in peace. I know it meant a lot to you that he told you this account because when you had seen it, your dad didn't really believe you.

Did your uncle describe it like the face as far as what he saw? He said it just looked like a very hairy man. He said it looked like a man and a monkey had a baby. And I realize all of this kind of happened in Utah. When he told you his experience, obviously, you know, he was going back to when he was 18 at the time. But was it in the general area where you guys found the tracks? Oh, a long ways away. No, so all the experiences with the bear hunting, all that area is in the southern part of Utah by Fish Lake.

And I've been doing some research. I looked on the BWR website. Yeah, the BFRR. BFRO, sorry, my bad. There's a bunch of sidings in that area. And I know this is a show about Bigfoot, but I do have another weird cryptic encounter. Yeah, tell me about it. So this was up in Vernon, Utah.

They do a bunch of cattle running out there, and I was out there one day, just riding my four-wheeler around, just doing what teenagers did. and having fun just riding around, killing time. And there's this dead cow about, I'd say, 50 yards off the road. And then there's this little gray thing. It's like, well, not, I wouldn't call it little. I'd say it's six foot tall gray colored thing, like dark gray colored dog. But it's giant compared to anything. It looked like a great Dane out there.

But it had long, shaggy fur with a long bushy tail like a fox, but it was the size of a great Dane. And it just, I saw it. And so I started chasing it on my four-wheeler, and it went down in this ravine up there, and it just seemed like it vanished. It, like, went down this ravine. And this ravine, you could look both ways, left and right,

for 300 yards, and above on the other side, 100 yards. and there was nothing. It was like it ran in that bottom and just disappeared. It was, it looked like a wolf. And it seems like it was faster than the ATV. How fast does your ATV go? What is it, 30, 40 miles an hour?

If I'm full throttle, I can get 40 miles an hour. Yeah. And I wasn't gaining anything on it. Yeah, that's weird, man. not gaining any ground on it. Makes me wonder what it was. I have had a few reports of Dogman out there in Utah. I know.

And what made me thinking of this just now is I was actually listening to your account with the rabbit hunters in Utah. They were in Vernon, Utah, and saw a black one, almost exactly what I just described. I forgot what episode number, but I remember listening to it and, like, oh, my gosh. Yeah, I do remember that episode. I can't remember what episode of number it was, but you're right. They did see one, basically what you're describing, but black. Makes me wonder about that property you guys bought, you know, up there for the cattle.

And I know you guys only go up there during the summertime, but I wonder if they live there all the time or if they were just kind of passing through and you guys kind of met at the same time. So my other uncle, we have, we've been letting him stay up there through the winter and like living up there. And I've been talking to him about it because his brother is the one that just passed. and he knew his story. And I was asking him really anything else been going on. He says, as soon as the first snow came, which is when we left, it kind of stalled. So I wonder if they're just there in the summer and leaving the winter, because the winter's up there are very, very brutal. You get three to four feet of snow at your house.

Yeah, and I know with summer coming up, you guys head up there every summer. I wonder if it was a one-time thing or if they'll be there this coming summer. Let me ask you. Ask everyone on the show, what do you think Sasquatch is? What's your take? I think it is a flesh and blood creature. I think it's the part of us that Evalize. It's not a human.

It doesn't have human DNA, but it's also not a straight monkey. It has the, I feel like it's a Neanderthal before they, lost all their hair and had skin, if you know what I mean. So do you think it's more of a human, more than animal? No, I think it's more, it's hard to say. I think it's like right in between because it has animal characteristics in the face and the behavior, but it also has human behaviors. Like, I hear the stories about them like smiling at people or they like see a baby and they smile

or they frown or they make faces at it. So I think it still has some human in it, but not a lot. Yeah, it's hard to say. I will say most people kind of like what you were just saying there, Augustus, about, you know, somewhere in between, that's what a lot of eyewitnesses say, somewhere between like a monkey and a man or a gorilla and a man. And then other times people will say,

kind of like what your uncle told you. You know, it look like a big man. Their appearances are very similar, but can be very different as well. And some of it might be perception from the eyewitness, too, as far as what they're seeing. You know, did it look more like a man? Did it look more like an animal? I'm kind of with you, man. Somewhere in between.

I really appreciate you taking the time to come on and share it. and I appreciate you taking the time to listen, man. I've just been a great big fan for so long, and I've reached out to you before when the one in 2018 happened, and then I don't know, I just didn't get back to you, but you've helped me so much in figuring out what all these things have happened to me are. Appreciate the kind words, Augustus.

Next up on the show, I want to welcome Chris. Chris, thanks for coming on. Hey, Wes, how's going. Thanks for having me. I'm doing well, man. Thank you for being here. I know this happened to you out there in Colorado. How long ago did this happen to you, Chris?

I was just early this year, actually right around the first of the year. I had been up in the same area a week prior doing the same thing. And yeah, something completely scared me out in the woods. So yeah, I just figured I'd share it. Well, if you would, just kind of start from the very beginning. were you doing and what happened? Yeah. So first I do want to warn people that, you know, this, this may or may not sound a little

reckless, you know, walking up a hill in the winter to snowboard down at night. But other people do this and ski up and down this old hill. It's west of Estes Park. If you know anything about that area, you definitely know where I'm talking about. I don't want to blow it up or anything like that. I don't know what's going on out there. It's just an old recreational spot that people go, you know, sledding, go hiking in the summer, snowboarding, that kind of thing, cross-country skiing.

It's a very mellow slope. That's also why, you know, when I have time in the winter, I can go up there in the evening and hit a run, you know, clear my mind, hike up, snowboard down, and I've got headlights and, you know, mountain bike lights that are super duper bright. so I feel comfortable out there and other people do it as well. So on this occasion, I went up in the evening and, you know, let three friends know where I was going. My son knew where I was going. Even, you know, when I got to the parking lot, like way up there in the Rocky Mountain National Park,

usually you do have reception in the parking lot there. So I sent a beautiful picture of a starry night to a friend like, I'm here just letting you know. And I did notice that there was no one there in the parking lot. I wasn't super nervous about it or anything because I've done it before. And again, not a big slope, no avalanche danger, that kind of thing. So I was feeling pretty confident, just about to have fun. And I bundled up, got my gear ready.

I've got a backpack full of snacks. You know, I have like an emergency blanket in there. There's some other things. and I've got a bunch of flashlights and I'm just ready. So before I start this hike, I turn on my Bluetooth speaker and I turn on a Black Sabbath album, my favorite paranoid and, you know, give my head straight, start up the hill. And also I do want to put it out there that the snowpack there is pretty good unless it's snowed recently.

So I typically don't take snow shoes because then I'm. I also have to bring them down and they're dangling off my backpack or inside of them or that kind of thing. So I just take my time and hike up the hill, enjoy what's going on around me. So I leave the parking lot. And again, I'm jamming, but I'm not super loud. I'm just going up. I can still hear my bootprints. And it takes about an hour to get to the point where you start, you want to start heading down past Trail Ridge Road.

that's kind of where the slope gets fun and you can actually get some time on your board or your skis. So I've got some time and the album's got at least like 45 minutes to play. So I'm jamming, hitting the hill. The old recreational area, the old ski resort, they're narrow runs through the trees, but they're not super narrow. They're totally doable even at night for somebody that has experience. They're super fun. Again, no real steepness to them. They're really easy.

So I'm heading up and I'm funneled into like a little tree run. And, you know, you go that way for a while. And the trees open up and they close back in. And they open up and they close back in. So I definitely think it could be eerie if you're not used to being out there. I just love being out there. It's where I go to clear my head. So I'm pretty pumped again.

Like I did this a week prior, this exact activity, exact area. I'm confident. And it gets to this area where the hill starts to get a little steeper and it funnels out into more of a bigger ski slope. And there's trees peppered throughout. And I kind of traverse up the hill, strategically kind of making my way, finding like the good snowpack area, so I'm not sinking in things. and at the very top of that hill my speaker my Bluetooth speaker it just goes low battery you know it's

pretty cold out so I'm sure it's it's not going to hold battery very well um but I I wait till I'm at the very top of that before I take my bag off and turn the turn the speaker off um and when I get to the top of that the hill um again funnels into a small uh little run off to the side a lot of of people if you know this area some people will call it the catwalk some skiers call it that because it does it kind of thins out into a catwalk and the snow on the side of this run is a little deeper so um again my speakers off i've got my backpack back on them i'm hiking with my snowboard and i'm probably i i would bet 70 to 80 yards into this um little ski run this catwalk off the the funnel hill um and at at that moment like out of nowhere there was like the

biggest deepest bark i had ever heard and i mean i just froze my lips went numb i did not know what to do um and it was i don't know it wasn't it was too you know too big to be a dog but But I'm like shaking telling you this. It's like super tough. But I'm imagining this. And before all this is happening, you know, I turned off the speaker and I could hear the crunch of my boots. I could hear the trees swaying and touching each other in the wind. And I could hear like the sprinkles of the snow, the snowflakes just falling and hitting the ground.

Just this magical feeling, right? and then out of nowhere, there's, obviously I can't repeat it, but it's like this, this, and I, like, I don't know how that's going to sound on the recording, but it was this echoed up the valley, up this hill, bark. And that's the only way I can describe it. There wasn't a roar, it was a bark. It was a start and an end. I didn't know what to do.

And the only thing I could think of, because I've done this before when I knew there were some sounds around when I was mountain biking or something like that. And I like to call it channeling my inner Phil Ensalmo. I really like Pantera, obviously, you know, into Sabbath and stuff. So I just, I roar back. And the only thing I could think of is, hey. So I'm hairy, just the biggest thing I've got. And as soon as I do it, I fall. Like I fall and I just sit down and I've got my snowboard next to me and I'm listening.

But from what I can remember, I'm not breathing. I can hear my heartbeats. It's that intense. Don't. And I'm counting. And I've got to be between 10 and 15 again, like I'm flipping out, man. 10 and 15 heartbeats later and something responded to my hay. And it goes,

again. And at this point, modes changed. I took my backpack off. I went into, like, I about started crying, but I went into this like speed survival mode. I took out three flashlights, all of which, one of which is 2,000 lumens. It's super duper bright. The other two are 1,000 lumens. I've got one pointed down the trail, up, one up the trail, and one straight towards the trees ahead of me. And I'm thinking, you know, put your, put your, put your, snowboard on, leave the backpack out so you can pack up, you know, one or two of the lights, like figure this out. You got a headlight on in these flashlights. I also, I didn't put this in the email, but I did have a fixed blade on me in a case. At that point, it went into a zipped pocket

in my snowboard pants. And I was like, okay, at least it's like easy access again. It's in a case. I felt protected more than anything. Maybe stupid, but I didn't know what to do. So I put my snowboard, I strapped that snowboard to my feet faster than anything. This is not a click in snowboard two straps. Pretty standard. You know, click, click, click, click, click. And at this point, my head, my brain changes. And I'm thinking, did I imagine that?

Number one. And two, where the hell is this thing at? Because it sounded like it was down the hill and the sound echoed up at me. and I've obviously got to go down the hill to make it back to my truck, to the parking lot, to just anywhere, to safety at this point. I could go directly up, but the problem with going directly up is I didn't know it was up there. Trail Ridge Road was not far from where I was at. But at this point, I was also thinking I should already be at Trail Ridge Road. It's been a while.

and I hadn't thought of that before. So one more time, I decided to just give it everything I got. And I wanted to gauge where the sound was coming from. And again, channeled everything I had. And I said, hey! And then silence. And I counted my heartbeats. It's almost like I held my breath.

And boom, one last bark. And at this point, I'm like, okay, I got. to go. That's the third one. That's the, you know, like it's there. I didn't imagine it. It's down for me. And I'm about to potentially, you know, snowboard into the arms of, of whatever's down there. I was so scared. I decided, you know, keep your 2,000 lumen light in your hand. You've got your headlamp on. You have an open hand to get your fixed blade. You're set, right? So I packed the bag faster than I could. Like, it's on my bag. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. As I'm just trying to man up to stay. up just to stand up and go because I'm on my butt at this point. It is a packed trail,

but it's soft enough where if you were to put your fist in there, your palm, it sinks a little bit. It's not as broad as a boot. So I, you know, I'm kind of trying to stand up, but I'm still scared. And right in front of me like 10 to 15 yards. Now, again, this bark is off. I don't even know how far off, but it's far enough that I'm like, okay, it's, it's out there and I can get moving. But right ahead of me, as I'm motivating to get up, just straight ahead, 10 to 15 yards into these trees, there was the, like the scariest laugh I have ever heard and it was echoed once it started. And the only thing I can say is it sounded like a mad, a mad, Joker laughing at me. And the first part of that, it sounded like hat, like H-A-T. It was very defined.

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! And as it kept going, more started with it. And then it stopped. And I'm flipped, dude. Like, I don't know what to do. My hands are sinking in the snow. I can't get up. And I'm like my, my, again, my lips are numb. My face is completely Like I went from being like warm because of all the activity. I'm hiking up the mountain. Listening to Sabbath. You know, hell yeah. I'm going up.

And then all of this happened. And I went to ice cold. I couldn't feel my fingertips. My lips were numb. When I, when all this was over, I literally was like, I couldn't feel like the lobes of my ears. Something had happened to me. Like it was, it was off.

And it was awful. But going. going into this mindset of like dude holy crap you got to go was one of the worst uh one of like the worst feelings because i've not i've had a few you know sense of you know emergency sense of urgency go go go in throughout my life but nothing like that because i couldn't see either creature or either entity or either thing that was after me or talking to me laughing at me barking at me the other thing is after all of this, I got to researching and where I stopped on that night was not where I stopped the week prior. There's two different main runs and kind of two different catwalks at that place,

and one of them goes pretty much straight to Trail Ridge Road. The other one deviates, if you were to look on Google Maps, it deviates a little bit, and it goes like through a thinner trail. I was in that thinner trail. I got a little bit more information and I do believe where this little recreational area crosses over Trail Ridge Road. I got to reading right there should be at 11,400 feet. Again, I read this. And the parking lot starts at about 9,500. I also got to reading how likely is it for a pack of coyotes, one coyote, two coyotes to be out of the valleys in Rocky Mountain National park and you know weird things happen right animals travel um and and they find places that they like they go hunting that kind of thing but whatever was laughing at me in the trees i i really believe

shouldn't have been there i don't think those were coyotes i don't know what that was it doesn't you know it doesn't sound like a a saskatch experience as far as the laughing the barking that kind of relates but all of this stuff um it turned it to one of the worst experiences in my life that I don't necessarily like to share with too many people because the fact that I went out there in the first place is like, you know, people go, come on, man, what are you doing? You're snowboarding at night by yourself? Like, there was no cars. Sure. But again, there's no avalanche danger. I just wanted to go out, clear my mind. And one of my most favorite spots in the world has, like, in my mind, turned almost into a spot that I

probably won't ever visit again at night. Maybe if I have a couple friends, but, yeah, this was, it was definitely one of the most scariest things. Again, the weird part about this was, too, like, I deviated from the original trail that I went on, and I don't know that that's why this sound happened, why this experience happened. I really don't know that or think that, but it makes me wonder if more people do not go in this area and perhaps something or a few things are nesting in that area near trail ridge road

on this more uncommon trail because there's also a few streams that go down through that area and little you know kind of nooks and crannies in the mountain and um i'm sure you could i'm sure you could find yourself in a really bad place if you weren't a skilled skier or snowboard or whatever and fall into these little crevices and things like on the side where these streams are and things but i've been there in the summer i know where the streams are um but again after saying all this like the second time i went up in the dark i went the wrong way a little bit and ended up on a different trail so um yeah that's that's my experience like i'm i'm shaking talking about it between the bark and the laughing, I don't know what it was.

I shared with you that link, Wes, and a friend of mine, his wife showed me that link, and it kind of explained the bark sound, but at the same time, I don't know, man, I'm on the fence about what happened, and perhaps they were just telling me to get out of there because they were real close. That laughing was too close for comfort. So. Yeah, and I'll play that recording you sent me here in a moment. I know it was kind of close to what you heard. And, well, actually, let me grab it real quick.

He sent me this. This was a moose barking in Maine. Let's take a listen. Oh, wow. That's a big moose. That's got an awful sound. Yeah, and you're way too close. I remember the first time I ever heard that.

I thought it was a dog barking in the woods. What the freaks a dog doing out here in the middle of the woods? It was a mouse. That is loud. You know, I've actually heard of, gosh, I'm trying to think of what had an audio recording of a Sasquatch barking, and it kind of sounded like that. I don't have it queued up at the moment. The Joker laugh, though, that you heard.

I've heard that as well. Eyewitnesses have reported hearing kind of a Joker type of laugh. It could have been a moose. I'm not so sure that you heard a moose, though. you know they'll do that bark usually it's when they're in mating season and they're kind of alerting others of danger and if you're yelling back hey you know mooses are aggressive as hell i could see it coming to find out who's yelling hey back that's what kind of makes me think you didn't hear a moose but i don't know or think that i did either it's just it i guess

you know when when my friends wife showed me that it it gave me absolute goosebumps i almost fell over. We're in the kitchen. I had to hold onto the counter. I was like, whoa, you got to be kidding me. That's the closest thing I'd ever thought I'd hear and I never wanted to hear that again. But also, you know, like we spoke about, like there's high potential that after you hear something like that, they would come after you. It was completely silent. I could hear snowflakes and my heartbeat between the barks. And that's why I don't, I really don't know if it barked and was aggressive don't you think it would be moving and coming after or uh making moves to you know gain ground type of thing and yeah i don't know it's a very it's a very uh odd

experience and especially being in the dark and you know i didn't see any eyes or anything it had very bright lights but the trees are very thick in this area so again these runs they're bright bright white snow but the uh the surrounding the border of the runs and like the little peppered trees in between. Maybe that's part of the reason why I don't want to go back, because I don't want to think that I see something that's actually not there that perhaps I heard because it just terrifies me. It absolutely does.

Yeah, I get it, man. And, you know, when you, you know, if I'm out there skiing in middle of the night and I hear that, I'm probably going to freak out, you know. The barking is something you often hear. I just had April on last night. She has a smaller one coming around. And the main, actually the only vocalization she hears from it is it barking and growling. The laughter, though, I've had many eyewitnesses to say that where it sounds kind of like the Joker laugh, you know, laughing at them.

And I don't know if this is Sasquatch or not. I want to say probably 10 years ago, this was actually from the Eumatillo Reservation, and it kind of sounds like laughter. I'm a couple hundred feet from my house, and you hear it going off in the background right now. Kind of sounds weird. Kind of sounds dogish, hya-ish, but you can hear it going off in the background right now. It's really kind of strange, just to say the least. It's been going off for about 15, 20 minutes so far. by the fire station.

I mean, when I first saw this, I thought Fox or Coyote, but it's too loud. Almost sounds like a hyena. Hold on. Is that kind of what you heard? I mean, that almost sounds like a laughter. Yeah, I would say it's super similar. Obviously, without the echo, because I was so close. And rather than a, like that, like, it's a very, that sound, I mean, it almost sounds like a howl.

a little bit. Like they were really defined. Um, and again, it was hot, ha, ha, ha, ha, like that and just, I mean, it, it was like the hyenas from, you know, the Lion King or something. They were like laughing at me in the trees. It was wild. Um, and again, that also, too, like, thinking back to it when I was trying to get up and I'm, I'm, you know, I'm cussing at myself. I'm going, oh shit, oh shit, get up, get up. I couldn't hear any rustling or sticks moving or anything um you know and i was i was feeling pretty fortunate at that point but it that's very similar to what i heard it it's like a again like a loud high pitched almost like a laugh um or perhaps you know it sounds different when you're farther away um versus like super super super duper close

but yeah that that could be you know right there along the lines too and it also like where this is at 11,400 feet. Like, we're not far from, we're not far from territory where there's no, there's no towns. Like over the continental divide from this little area, I think it's another, I'm pretty sure it's another 40 miles on Trail Ridge Road,

the highest, you know, the highest road around, um, to get to even Granby. So there's a lot of wild stuff in there. There's, you know,

old glacier lakes and all kinds of stuff up there that, uh, you know, could, could potentially, uh, I mean, something could be hiding up there. I don't know.

It's very scary to hear those sounds and then think back to what I thought and be like, yeah, that's very similar. Yeah, I can't blame me one bit for not going back up there, man. And like I said, I've heard eyewitnesses describe the Joker laugh. Even in the Sierra sounds, I call it the Scooby-Doo laugh. Let me pull it up here. Did you hear that right there? Yeah.

Let me back it up. I always call this a Scooby-Doo laugh. No, but anyway, I wanted to hear that Scooby-Doo thing. Yeah, that's wild. Yeah, it's like a rolling laugh. Like, hoo-hoo-hoo! Yeah, it's a freaking Scooby-Doo laugh, man. You know, I ask everyone on the show, Chris,

what do you think Sasquatch is? What's your take? You know what? I'm not sure, really. Like, I do listen to the show here and there. I don't listen to it. you know, every time a new show comes out, but what I like to do is stack them up and then listen to three or four out of time and kind of get down that way. So I like to hear other people's

opinions too, but, you know, I'd like to think it's out there undiscovered doing its thing, but yeah, I'm not, I'm not sure how to, you know, how to place that, right? Like, I'm not sure when it comes to the scientific terms or where with that, but it's like, you know, some people are thinking, you know, this magical creature in and out of different dimensions, while those are really cool stories to listen to and I don't want to discount them at all, I don't know if I feel that, but at the same time, who knows? You know, I'd like to think magic does exist at some point. So, But yeah, hopefully if Bigfoot's out there, you know, just, you know, doing his own magic type of thing. I don't know what to say about that.

Like an undiscovered creature maybe. I'm not sure. Yeah, I think that's a fair answer, Chris. It's hard to say really what they are. I want it to be a non-human primate we haven't caught up with. But I'm not so sure about that. And, you know, the vocalizations, generally when they vocalize at you, it's meant to scare you. it's meant to make you go away.

And they do bark and they do laugh according to eyewitness testimony. The laughter is really fascinating because everyone describes it like the Joker laugh. And what's fascinating about the Joker laugh is people describe it kind of a higher pitched type laugh, which makes me think it's probably younger ones because, I mean, you were hearing it up in the trees. I think I've only had one eyewitness report and they actually saw it laughing. It was a male and it was appearing to be laughing. That's how they perceived the vocalization it was doing, but it was a really deep, guttural laugh.

But most people don't describe it as a deep guttural laugh. It's more of a high-pitched laugh, which makes me think younger ones. I would be careful up there, man, if you go back up, are they going to hurt you? Probably not. I think when you encounter stuff like this or weird vocalizations you can't place, just leave. And for the most part, they'll leave you alone. When you don't leave, it's generally when they ramp it up. Yeah.

Yeah. And, you know, I don't know if I had perpetuated by yelling, hey, a few times. But again, I, there was something, there was something about like, again, the second time did I imagine this. But even the first time when I yelled that, I kind of had it in my head that that, it I was like, did that even happen? Did a tree just hit another tree or fall over or something? I mean, am I out in the woods and hear a tree falling? Like, it, yeah, some thoughts went through my head and like, what do I do here?

So again, I just, I may have perpetuated what happened with the laughing in that by yelling back. And I don't think that I would have gone further up. But yeah, it was just a wild experience. I did want to share it. You know, it's even telling friends. I get kind of emotional about it. I get goosebumps. It's scary as hell.

But I'll still continue going up in the area. Just probably not, you know, same time of day. Probably not doing that at night anymore. And I'll still go night mountain biking. That's always a thrill. But I probably won't be as far west. Don't stay up on the front range or go to the grasslands or something, you know? Yeah, I get it.

And I don't think you perpetuated it by yelling, hey, I think any normal wildlife would probably run off the minute you yell hey. I mean, I'm no moose expert. Moose might actually come and find out who's yelling, hey. They're aggressive as hell and very territorial. Just be careful when you're up there, man. I really appreciate you taking the time to come on and be safe, will you? Yeah, there's definitely something out in the woods, man.

I'll still go out, but it's scary. So thanks again, Chris. And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at saskwatchchronicles.com. And if you get a chance to check out saskwatchchronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Until next time, everyone.

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