Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:1155 It Was Holding A Watermelon

Episode Date: May 17, 2025

Nick writes "I had a roadside sighting in CA with my mom summer of 2008 when I was 18. It was about 12:30-1am in the foothills of Placerville CA. We had a newspaper route that often had us heading home past midnight. It was mid August a few months after graduating from high school. It was a beautiful night we had the windows down just cruising. My mom had a Geo Metro that we used for the paper route with a 3 cylinder engine so it was not fast lol. It was a blind corner and our headlights hit this thing, and my mom didn't see it at first (she never sees anything, we once almost hit a buck so close I could see the velvet on his antlers but she didn't see it at all) but then she downshifted and hit the gas. I knew what I saw but I turned to her and asked what she saw, she had the same description as me so knew I wasn't crazy because what I saw was nothing short of impossible. I saw it running before the headlights actually hit it and it was like a cartoon how it was running, hands down by his side ( I say his because for some reason I knew it was a male) and his head didn't bobble at all. As soon as the headlight hit this thing it just stopped on a dime, the dust it kicked up floating past like a mist as it stood there. Bright like blood orange eye shine (not glowing) with a hint of green. It was holding a watermelon in one arm with other hanging down by its side it's hand shaped like a Lego man hand. It wasn't crazy huge, maybe six to six and a half feet tall. All black but thinning around the pecks. I could see the veins in his biceps. It looked like an Aboriginal person from Australia. That's the closest thing I can compare it too. Very human like. Definitely not an animal."

It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind and it either heard me or smelt me and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up and that shocked me. They don't make people that that big. The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything moves like that in my life. They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language and they were chuntering away back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forwards.

I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet that what I saw were bears. What are you reporting? Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That's son of a bitch is about six. bitch is about six foot nine, I don't know. Do you see a bouncer? Yes, I'm looking right in.

Uh-oh. Hi, this is Carol King from Music City, and you're listening to my favorite podcast, Sasquatch Chronicles. Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show plan for you. We'll be chatting with Nick, and Nick comes to us from California.

And back in 2008, him and his mother were driving in the foothills when they came across this creature, very close encounter, and Nick has a great description. I'll kind of let him go into it. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows.

Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Nick to the show. Nick, thanks for coming on. I appreciate it, man. Thank you for having me. Yeah, man. I'm happy that you're here. And before we go into this encounter in 2008,

before actually seeing the creature, what was kind of your take on the whole subject of Sasquatch? So in 2008, the show Finding Bigfoot was huge. All of my friends were watching it. My brother was watching it. So I always had this idea. in my head like this fantasy that it could be real. But of course, I didn't want to believe all the other cryptids that people are seeing. I didn't want to believe any of that stuff. But, you know, I was

and to be clear, I wasn't, it was two months before my birthday. So I wasn't quite 18. I was 17 at the time. But I always had this fantasy that this thing could be real. And, you know, I would love the opportunity to see one. And, you know, you've had people on before that have had, you know, absolutely terrifying encounters and I'm glad that I didn't go through any of that. Although my encounter wasn't as terrifying as some of those, it still changed my perspective on pretty much everything that we think we know, which is not a lot. But yeah, I always thought that it was possible that it could be real. I never thought I would ever see one.

But fortunately, I randomly out of one night, I did. And that's why I'm on because I just, I, you know, once we start getting into the story, If there's anybody that knows me that's listening, they're going to know who I am. They're going to know the exact spot that this happened. And that was probably my sole reason for not coming on sooner. But, yeah. I appreciate it, Nick. If you would, take me back to 2008.

What were you doing and walk me into what happened? Yeah, so 2007, my mom separated from her husband. And it was just me, my mom, and my little sister. And me and my little sister were both in high school. I was emancipated at 16, so I didn't need my mom's permission to do anything. So I enrolled myself into adult ed and I checked out of regular high school so that I could go get a job so that I could help, you know, help my mom and keeping my sister in school. So that's what I did. I went to adult ed and I went and got a job.

So I was doing my schooling stuff, you know, towards in the morning time. at home doing it. And then I'd go do my nighttime job. And I did that for a while. And then my mom, she worked at the Mountain Democrat, which is the oldest newspaper in California, but that doesn't matter. And she worked in town during the day. And she picked up a paper route at nighttime because her ex-husband worked in the mailroom

of the Mountain Democrat. So it was his job to make sure like the printing process was working for the papers and making You know, when you open the paper, you get like little flyers and inserts and stuff. And, you know, he made sure that everything was going smooth. So since she already worked there, she didn't have to apply or anything. She just basically asked, hey, you know, can I pick up shift? And of course, they said, yeah. And she did it for a couple of weeks.

And then I asked her, you know, what it was like. And she said, honestly, it's kind of just me out there. And I don't really have to worry about anything or stress about anything. I just deliver the papers. And I was like, well, I don't really feel comfortable with you. doing that on your own. So I'm going to start going with you. She said, cool, I could use the help. So I started going with her. And I would get off work around 10 o'clock. And we didn't have to be in town until about 11. So I'd get off work at 10 and I would drive home. Sometimes I wouldn't

even change that on my uniform. I would just get in the car with her and go right back to town. And we'd go to the Mount Democrat, pick up our papers and we'd go start delivering these things. And depending on weather, you know, if it's nasty outside of snowing or raining, you know it might take a little bit longer to do these deliveries, but because if it's raining, we also have to wrap the papers with rubber band and then put them in a plastic bag. But during the summer, you just put a rubber band and throw them out the window. So it's nice during the summer. We could do two hundred and I think there's 280 papers.

We could do it in like an hour. But if it's raining, it takes us a little bit longer. And on some occasions, we had to, you know, cover for a driver. So on certain occasions, we were doing, you know, four, five, six hundred papers in a night. On those times, we wouldn't get home to like three or four in the, morning. Those were those nights were brutal because I had to go to work the next morning. But this happened on a random night. It was mid-August. I don't remember what day it was. It was, you know, a long time ago. But I remember it was because my birthday is at the end of October.

So I know it was right before then. And I know it was hot outside. So because we had the windows down. So I'm thinking like mid-August, you know, somewhere in that time frame. And to preface, I just want to say this that my mom saw this thing too, which is kind of amazing because she is, and I'm going to, I'm going to tell her that I went on so she can listen and kind of get a laugh out of this, but she is totally oblivious when she's driving. She doesn't see anything. There was one time in the same exact spot, as a matter of fact, like six months before this happened, we almost hit a buck, a huge buck. It was so close to the car, you could see the velvet on his antlers. And she never saw it. You know, we almost hit raccoons a bunch of times. She never saw anything. But, you know,

this time she did see it. And I'm fortunate that she did see, even though she never wanted to talk about it after that. So I couldn't get any details out of her, but all I can go off of this is what I saw. But she did corroborate what I saw by telling me exactly what I saw. She described it perfectly. And I was like, okay, we definitely saw the same thing. We're not hallucinating here. because for the longest time, I didn't want to believe it. I was like, there's no, there's no way what I just saw is what I saw. Because it was a fantasy world that this thing could ever exist. Because like, there's no, there's no way that it's just some undiscovered ape, you know, there's no chance.

Because, you know, nude species are getting discovered all the time, but they're not getting discovered all over the world. They're only in one spot, like the giant slaughter or whatever. It's only in that one spot. They're not giant sloths all over the world, which is why it wasn't discovered. But these things are everywhere. They're all over the place. They're on every continent, every country, islands. They're everywhere.

So from the last newspaper we deliver, it's about a 20-minute drive back to the house. So after we throw that last newspaper in the box, we could kind of just kick back and cruise home, you know, and talk or listen to the radio. Me and my mom were both into like hair metal and stuff, you know, Zeppelin and things like that. So we just listen to music and have a good time. And there is this road. It's called Grass Valley Road. And it goes from Main Street all the way down to towards Bucks Bar Road. Like I said, if you're listening in your front of the area, you know what I'm talking about.

We lived off of Cedar Reveen. So when you go down that road towards Bucs Bar, you take a left on a Cedar Reveen and then we lived right there. This happened. It's kind of like a blind corner, not really a blind corner, but you got to slow down pretty decently. there was a old video or rental place called Select Video, and it was right before that. So if you're driving towards the house, it's on the left-hand side,

there's like half an acre, maybe three-quarters of an acre field where they grow strawberries and watermelons and things like that. And during Halloween time, they put scarecrows out and pumpkins and haybills on the corner. And like I said, if you're a local, you know what spot I'm talking about.

And across the road, there's like a little white picket fence. And I'm pretty sure it might be private property. It probably is. But when you look out over the fence, it's just wilderness. Like there's like a big open like field. But then there's just trees on the other side. So I don't know how far back it goes before you hit a house or hit another town. I have no idea.

But we were coming up to this corner. And I saw it before the headlights actually hit it. And it was running across this field. field and like I had to take a double take because I was like, why is there somebody in the middle of the field? It's one talk in the morning. Why is somebody running through this field? And then I started noticing little details. And this all happened before the headlights even hit. And I noticed that it was, it was like a car on air right suspension, you know, like the legs were moving, but the top of the body wasn't moving. The arms weren't swinging. At first I didn't

think it had arms because I didn't see anything. Because, like, at this point, it's just a shadow that I'm looking at, but I'm looking right at it. And it's running across this field, and, you know, the headlights hit this thing, and it stops. Like, have you ever seen, like, the, like, I just recently was watching the show called Yellowstone, and there's this thing that they do with the horses where they, they gallop the horses and then they make them skid to a stop. I don't know what it's called or why they even do it.

But it was like that, but he didn't skid. It just, it was like magic how he stopped. It just stopped and it just stood still. And the dust that it kicked up from running, like floated past this thing. Like, it was, it was like a rally car going down a dirt road. It was like dust just flew past this thing. And, you know, like in the winter when like a big cow or a bull or something, they breathe out of their nose and you can see like the breath because it's cold outside. It was like that, but you couldn't see the breath.

But you could see the shape of the air in the dust, I guess. It's hard to explain. But it definitely was breathing. It's definitely a living creature. And the headlights hit this thing. And like I said, it just stopped. And it looked at us. And there was eyeshine.

Because at first, even though I didn't want to believe what I was seeing, because I just wanted to pass it off as a scarecrow because like I said, they're out there sometimes. Not in that spot, usually off to the corner. This one was like standing by the road, like right next to the mailbox. And that's the reason why I have, I think, a pretty accurate description of its height because there was a mailbox right there. And like I said, we deliver newspapers, so I see mailboxes all the time.

And it just stopped and it was right off the edge of the road and it was on the left side of the road. So between us, all there is is one lane of road and then maybe a couple of feet of dirt until this thing was standing there. So it was right on the side of the road. It looked at us. The eyes lit up, not glowing, like some people report. I don't know what they're seeing, whether it's Bigfoot or not.

I don't know, but the things, the eyes weren't glowing. It was definitely eyes shine. And it was like, I can't, it's hard, like a creamy orange, like a milky orange, I guess, with like little hints of green in there. It's hard to explain. the color, but it wasn't like a bright neon glowing, you know, it was more like a, like an opaque, I guess you would say. But it was green or yellow with a little hint of green. And I was looking at this thing and it blinked. And once it blinked, that's when I knew what I was looking at was

real. I was like, oh, shit. This, uh-oh. And the, at the, at the, at the, that moment, there was no fear. The fear set in about a mile down the road because I started thinking about stuff. But at that moment, when I saw this thing, it was like slow motion. I was able to like basically look up and down this thing and scan it while we were driving by. Because again, this corner you have to slow down to like 15, 20 miles an hour maybe. So we're going pretty slow. And we're in a, it was a, I believe it was a 1993 little geometro with the three-cylinder engine, manual five speed.

not a fast car by any means and not a heavy car. In fact, when I was in high school, I was doing weight training, and I could pick up the back end of this car when I was 16. So it was not a heavy car. And that's when I realized that a mile down the road, that's when the fear set in. But when I saw this thing and we're driving past it, I'm trying to keep my eyes on it, but I'm into passenger seats.

So if I'm turning my head while we're driving forward, It has to, my eyes have to come off this thing for a second because my mom would be in, you know, in line with this thing. And while we were passing it, I, you know, I had this overwhelming, like absolutely overwhelming sensation that something or someone was like standing behind me. Like, almost like that creepy feeling you get when you're home alone and you think there's like a ghost in the hallway or something and you like walked down the hallway real fast. It was like that. But we were driving in a car. so I don't know why I would feel that. And, you know, listening to accounts, you know, there very well could have been another one on the other side of the road.

I just never saw it. So I don't want to speculate. But that's just what I felt. And I'm looking at this thing. And I, the feeling that I got was like, oh, crap, I'm in trouble. You know, like when your mom's yelling at you to go to your room, but you have to walk past your dad. And, like, you walk past them really quickly and your shoulder blades tense up because you think he's going to smack you. kind of feeling. That's what I felt. And it was odd. It was strange to feel that. That's what I felt,

though. And, you know, we passed by this thing and it just stood still. It didn't move a muscle. And it was holding a watermelon, which is the most bizarre thing because it was clear as day. Like, it was a big ass watermelon too. Because like I said, they grow watermelons in that field. So I can only assume it was running to get a watermelon and then running back to wherever it came from to the dead side of the road. It was holding a watermelon, which is bizarre in itself. And, you know, we drove past this thing and I was staring at it the whole time. And, you know, in the faint glow of the tail lights, they could still see it just standing there. And then eventually it just, you know, went out of like the view of the light, I guess.

and it kind of just like faded away. The creature didn't fade away, but like me seeing it. And I'm assuming that it waited until it knew it was out of sight and then it, you know, went about its way or whatever. And then we were driving down the road and it was about a half a mile and I looked over at my mom. And the reason why I knew she saw it is because once the headlights hit this thing, she downshifted it and slammed on the gas. And like I said, it's not a fast car. So there's a whole lot of noise. Not a lot of go.

And all this happened, like, I don't know, it was like 10, 15 seconds maybe, everything happened, 20 seconds max. And then I looked over at her after we passed it. And she was white as a ghost, as people would say. And I looked at her and then she looked at me and she goes, did you just effing see that? And, you know, one of my favorite shows at the time was NCIS. So I watched a lot of cop stuff. So I was like, okay, what did you see? I'm not going to tell you what I saw.

What did you see? And then if you saw what I saw, then it was for sure real. And she described everything that I saw, not in as much detail, but she said there was this thing standing there. The eyes were shining, and you could see its muscles, and I just wanted to get the F out of there. And then that's when the fear set in, because. if this thing wanted to, it could have easily, if there was two of them, in fact, you know, they could have easily ran us down, you know, just going based off of other eyewitnesses

with, you know, saying how fast these things are moving. And when it was running through that field, it was like a cartoon or something. It didn't make sense how he was moving. It was like, I don't know, it's hard to explain, but it just, the legs were going. And it was just, I don't want to say floating, but man, like that's pretty, accurate description of what it looked like. It was just gliding across and it had

the terrain had no effect on its upper body. Like his legs were like shock absorbers almost and it just just cruised through the field like nothing. And but after we passed it, that's when the fear said it because like man these things could have easily if they wanted to, they could have caught us

and and you know flip the car and did whatever they wanted to us. But they didn't. They just like this thing got caught off guard almost. I think what was happening looking back, I think it was trying to get across the road before we came up. Because I think this thing is,

these things are smart. They know when there's a car coming. You know, if they live out there, like, like if they live in the wilderness, they know what we are. You had a guy on earlier that he said he was walking to the woods and one, you know, he walked up on one.

And then once the big foot realized he had a, gun, then that's when everything changed. And then the guy put his hand up to signal like, hey, I'm not going to go for the gun. And then it walked away. So clearly, it knows, it knows more than other animals would know. So I think it was trying to get across the road before we pulled up on it, but it didn't get a chance to. That's why it stopped. Like, I'm just going to stand still.

Hopefully they don't see me. But, I mean, it was clear as day. It was, it was, yeah, it was. it changed my perspective on a lot of things because, you know, I always wanted to believe Bigfoot was real, but all the other stuff people see, like the, the shimmering man or the dog man or all these other cryptids, you know, the, the rake, you know, there's no way those things are real, right? But then you got all these people telling you this is what I saw. And I just find it hard to believe that everybody's lying, but they're describing the same thing, you know? Like, it's just, There's no way that it's, it would be more crazy if it wasn't real, I guess, right? Like, what are people seeing if they're not seeing what they're seeing? You know, like, it's hard to put into words. Like, you almost, you almost want to see one like a dog man or a rake just to like, I don't know, self-gratification.

Like, okay, now these things are real. Now what do we do from here? And that's the question, I think, like, we know they're real. At least I do. And, like, where do you go from there? Where do you, what do you do with that information? And it just, you know, I had, because we lived out in the country, we lived pretty far from town. And our driveway was like, I would say, 50, 60 yards long.

And, you know, it's just me, mom, and my sister. So I'm technically the man of the house. So, you know, it's my job to take the tree. trash cans down to the road and I hated doing it because I just, you know, walking back up the driveway, like you had that feeling that something was behind you, which there probably never was, but that was probably just me freaking myself out. But it changed my perspective, you know, and, you know, very shortly after that is, you know, you ask people if, you know, if they've ever seen lights and I have on two occasions. And it was right after that. I never saw

anything before. Never saw anything before, but right after that, I saw a few other things. And it's hard to even tell you what I'm about to tell you, even though I'm on, you know, this is the whole reason why I contacted

you is to put it out there that I'm, you know, I've also seen UFO on two occasions as well. But those two occasions, there was plenty of people that also saw the same thing. And so I know for sure that what we saw is what we saw because we all saw the same thing. Yeah, before you go on to the lights, I was kind of curious.

I mean, how far away from you guys is this creature? And what kind of stood out to you when you were looking at it? Yeah. So I remember all, everything about this, vivid details, because I had nightmares about this thing for months after this west like i had it was so weird it was probably my mind just making it up but i had this i kept getting this flash image in my mind and it happened during the day when i was wide awake it happened when i was sleeping it happened all the time and the flash image was that thing standing on the side of the road but it it it raised this hand up and put its finger on his mouth like you know when you tell somebody to shush it it it didn't do that when i saw it, but I kept getting this flash image that it was telling me to be quiet.

Like, you didn't see what you saw. Like, you know, you didn't see me. And, but so I remember a lot about this thing. The only thing that I don't remember was the feet because it was in a field, you know, with things growing. So I just think that the feet were out of view. But the, the, from the waist up was definitely taller or longer than the legs. I've been the legs proportionately looked, you know,

kind of short. And this thing was maybe six feet tall. It wasn't these monstrous, you know, huge beings that people see. It wasn't that big. So that's why I, you know, maybe leaning towards juvenile, I think, because I don't really know, but it wasn't very big. The arms were long. You can see muscle definition through the fur. The hair was kind of thinning on the bicep area and the chest area, which is why I believe that it was a younger one, because if it was older, probably would have been more fully covered in hair unless it was a super old one, and then it was just thinning. I have no idea, but you can see the biceps.

I can see the veins in its arm. Like, it was, it was 10 feet from us. Like I said, it was, we were in the car on the right side of the road, and it was just one lane, and it was right there. So it was, it was less than. 10 feet from the car. And, you know, our headlights were on this thing for like a five or six full seconds. Like, because the angle that we were driving at and the angle that that field is at,

the headlights are on this field for a good five or six seconds before you start turning. And it was standing right there right in the headlights. So I saw everything, man. I saw it, it's thighs were thick. You could see muscle tone in the thighs. You could see his chest muscles. It looked not really like a bodybuilder, not like huge, huge, but it was like, man, it had muscle. Let's just put it that way.

It had muscle tone. And it was all black, jet black. The skin was like, if you were to like mix gray paint and black paint together, you get like a darker gray or a lighter black. kind of like that color. And it had like a, like a shimmer almost, like oily skin would have kind of. It was like that.

And you could, I could see clearly the, the eyes were shining, so I couldn't see any pupils or nothing like that. But it had a, its face, I never saw any ears, which is weird,

but then listening to your podcast, not a lot of people see the ears. So I don't know if they're just, weird shape or whatever, but I didn't see any years. But it had, man, it looked like a person. It looked like a human being, but not human, you know, at the same time. It was like, and I think I put it in the email that I sent you, you know, it was like an Aboriginal person from Australia where they look human, but they have like flight

Neanderthal features, I guess you would say, like the pronounced, forehead but the nose was very human-like but kind of like I don't know if you if you follow UFC but there's a fighter named Chale Sunnan and his nose

is kind of like flat in the middle from probably being punched in the face a bunch but it didn't have like a pronounced nose ridge it was kind of flat but it wasn't it wasn't like wide like maybe like a gorilla's nose would be It wasn't wide like that.

It looked like a human nose, but it was kind of flat in the middle. And I could see his lips, you know, and they weren't, man, they weren't like, forget me for saying this, but they weren't like luscious lips, you know, like a human might have, but you could definitely see the lips. And it had hair on his face as if, you know, a person with a beard would have. So like the cheek area, it didn't have any hair on it at all. Right under the lip, the bottom lip didn't have any hair on it at all. And it stood there and it was breathing out of its nostrils

because you could see the nostrils flaring every time it, it like exhaled. It stood motionless, left hand, had a watermelon in its hand as if you're like holding a baby. So it wasn't like down by its side. It was kind of, you know, he was holding it like kind of like right below where his peck would be. And his right arm was down by his side and the hand was shaped like a Lego Man, like the like Lego Man, how their hands are shaped like a C. His hand was shaped like that and it was just down by his side. So I never, on the right hand, I only saw that C shape, but on the left hand, I could see all the fingers because it had his fingers, you know, spread open because it was holding something. And if I were to guess that it was a, if I were holding the watermelon, it would probably, it would be a large watermelon.

I don't know, maybe 10 pounds, 15 pound watermelon, a large watermelon. But in his hands, this thing looked like a, it didn't look very big. when he was holding it. But in reality, it probably was a larger watermelon because his hands were huge. His hands were, that was one of the one things that stuck out as being, you know, disproportionate was his hands were too big for how the size of this thing. His hands were huge. And it was holding his watermelon almost like an NBA player would hold a basketball. Like it just looked, it looked kind of hilarious how smallest watermelon looked in his hands.

and it didn't have any hair on the top of his hand. And I could see fingernails. Like, if that was the person in a suit, my God, the detail, the amount of hours that person spent on that thing is crazy. But, you know, he didn't move like a person would move. In fact, he didn't move like any other animal on the planet would move. And that's the freaky part. Like, if it can move like that and traverse territory the way that it does, like there's not a whole lot that it can't do, you know?

But again, I think that, and we'll probably go into my theories on what it is, but I just think that it's mysterious. There's a lot of things that are weird about it that put me out of the whole, you know, undiscovered ape category. Yeah, I could understand the way you fell. and you know that whole floating motion that you saw a lot of eyewitnesses report that very unnatural type movement

to where it shouldn't be that smooth the way it moves and carrying watermelon is kind of interesting so what you saw basically wasn't an animal it looked more man oh definitely more human-like like it looked like an aboriginal person but more hairy

and taller obviously the Aboriginal people from my show. I don't think they're very tall. I could be wrong, but I don't think so. Never knew really how to describe it. Until a couple years ago, I was watching a documentary, and it was about the Aboriginal people of Australia. And I was watching the show, and I was like,

holy crap, that looks exactly like the big flip that I saw. That's crazy. You know, some people, when they see these things, they'll say, I saw an animal. But I will say more often than not, most eyewitnesses will say I kind of remind me of a man, kind of remind me of a human.

Obviously, different features than we have, but the feeling most eyewitnesses get is I saw a man, I saw a human, and I get the UFC reference with the broken nose. A lot of eyewitnesses say the nose was flat or

smashed in. Tell me about the lights that you saw. This happened, the first, The first one happened, God, probably was a week maybe after this. And that's what really said in my fear of being outside at nighttime, because I used to go into the woods all the time. Me and my buddies would go camping all the time. We'd go, you know, I learned on Man versus Wild with Bear Grills.

He teaches you in one of the episodes how to make a teepee out of sticks and a belt. So we used to go all the time and mess around in the woods and me and my friends. and the house that we lived in, it was off of Woodland Drive off Cedar Ravine, and it was one of the original houses from like the original wagon trail that moves through California. So I'm told.

I didn't do any research. I don't really know. But when you, the house was built on the side of a hill. And when you look under the house, you can see like the original fireplace. We even found some like, God, they were probably over 100 years old,

like a pair of shoes underneath there. But the house was built on the side of a hill, So there was a wooden deck that wrapped around the entire house. And where my room was at was on the corner of the house where the deck is the highest off the ground. But I was sitting on my back porch right outside the, because my bedroom had two doors. One, you know, the inside door from the inside. And then I had an outside door as well. So when I came home late, I could just go through the outside door without waking anybody up in the house.

And I had a bench outside. And I was sitting outside. It was a pretty quiet night. In fact, really quiet, but I didn't really know anything about that back in the day where, you know, like the forest goes quiet, no crickets or nothing. I don't remember like the shift, I guess you would say. Like I don't remember there being crickets and then there wasn't. But I just remember sitting there and I was like, man, it's so quiet. It was a really bright, starry night.

It was a very clear night. And again, I lived in Plasterville and there's not a lot of light pollution out there. or a lot of smogs. So, you know, during at nighttime, the sky is, is amazing to look at. And I remember I was sitting on my backboards and I was smoking. And I was just looking up at the stars. And then out of nowhere, I just, there was like a, like a glow from the other side of the house. And from just to give you a little bit of direction here, I was sitting on the back porch of my house looking towards the road. And when I look to my right, there's the driveway, and the driveway kind of curves, you know,

to the left, down to the road. And I saw this glow on the other side of the house and that caught my attention because we have floodlights that come on and stuff like that. And at first, that's what I thought it was. And then I realized that it was blue. I was like, well, our floodlights aren't blue. So what is that? And I didn't get up.

I had my phone in my hand, too. But it was a flip phone, you know, back in, you know, this was in 2008. So smartphones weren't a thing yet. Maybe they were. Maybe they were just too expensive or whatever. But I had a flip phone. And no, as a matter of fact, smartphones weren't out because I had like the newest flip phone. It was the Motorola, the razor.

And I had that phone. And I had it in my hand. And I saw this blue glow. And then it started getting brighter. And I was kind of, I wasn't like frozen in fear, but I was just like, let me sit here and see what happens because, you know, if there's somebody on my property walking past with a flashlight or whatever, I'm going to go tell, you know, my stepdad because, you know, we had guns and all that stuff. And as a matter of fact, I'll, you know, there's a funny story that I'll tell later if we have time about him rushing out of the house one time with a shotgun. But, but anyways, I'm sitting there and this glow is just, you know, getting brighter and brighter because I think it's moving towards me. So, And then it stopped. And it just kind of was there.

And like I said, I'm only seeing a glow from the other side of the house. I'm not actually seeing this, the light. And I was like, you know what? I'm going to see what this is. So I got up really silently and I walked across this deck and I peeked around the side of the house. And, man, it was a blue, perfect ball of light, self-eminating light, maybe the size of a softball. a little bit bigger, not huge. And it was across the other side of the driveway, so it was maybe 30 yards away,

which be like 90, 100 feet maybe somewhere around there. And it was just floating there. Time stood still almost. And then it started moving down the driveway. And the best way I can describe the light is if a person was walking down the driveway and the way your head would move as you were walking. down the driveway, that's the motion this light took. And I watched this light go all the way down the driveway, across the street to the neighbor's house, down his driveway, because like I said, it's a hill.

So his house is below our house. And then it just kind of went off into the trees. And I could see the blue glow for a long time. But then it dissipated. And I was still standing in the same spot. And I was like, what did I just see? and why didn't I take a picture of this thing? I had my phone in my hand, but it just, it didn't register.

You know, I didn't want to take my eyes off of it. Honestly, it was mesmerizing. I was like, what the hell am I looking at? And I was scared at that time because I was like, you know, I've heard of like ball lightning and stuff, but I was like, man, what is this thing? Can this thing hurt me? I don't want to take a chance. So I vividly remember, too, like holding my breath.

to the point where I had to take a breath. I was like, okay, breathe stupid. And it was very odd. And I was by myself, so I didn't have any witnesses. And I didn't, I've, to this day, Wes, I've never told anybody not a single person until right now what I saw. Because me and my mom just had that siding a few days earlier. And we told my sister about it and, of course, freaked her out. She was, I think, 14 at the time, 13 or 14.

She was young. And I saw this light and I had an inclination to go tell what I saw. But I was like, no, no, no, no, no. I already told my stepdad that we saw Bigfoot and he laughed at us. Now there's a blue light in the driveway. I'm not telling anybody. No way. I don't want to, nobody's looking at me and they're going to tell me that I'm a coot, you know.

So I didn't tell anybody. And I said there for a while and I was like, all right, well, I'm going to go back to what I was doing, I guess. I don't know what to do with that information, but that was strange. And I never saw the blue light ever again. But the second light that I saw, behind her house, there was woods. To the right of our house across the other side of the driveway, there was a family that owned horses. They had a few horses, but back behind the house. So the other direction, not the roadside, but the other side, it's just woods.

There is a house back there, but it's a long ways back there. And this was, it wasn't quite dark, but the sun was down, but you can still see, you know, for quite a ways. And again, middle of summer. At this time, I was standing in the driveway and I was smoking a cigarette. And I heard a noise to my right, because I didn't see the light at first. And the second time I saw it, I didn't actually see the actual source of the light. I just saw the glow. And, you know, your podcast has definitely opened my eyes to certain aspects of things that I was seeing in terms of, like, how to describe them.

and when you said like the old flashlight from the 80s that color, that's exactly the color that it was. And it was just moving through the trees. And at first I was like, 100% I was like, that's a person walking through the trees with a flashlight. But then I was like, flashlights only shine one direction. This thing's lighting up the trees behind it as well. And then I was like, wait a second, that thing's like 20 feet off the ground, too.

What the f f f am I looking at? And it just, it was just, it was just out of visual range where I didn't see the light. I just saw the glow and it just floated through the trees. And I watched it for probably two or three minutes straight, just standing there watching it. In fact, my cigarette went out because I was just standing there watching this light. And yeah, it just floated through the trees off to the distance. And then, and then I never saw a light after that. It's very interesting that you saw the lights after your sighting.

and I can relate to, especially that second encounter with the lights, because I saw something very similar, you kind of brought up the whole, you know, I had made mention on the Brown's property of the light that I saw was like a flashlight from the 80s. And it kind of had the movement of someone walking with a flashlight. The closer it got, the more I realized that's not someone with a flashlight. light. When you were looking at both of these lights, how big were they? The first one, the blue one, it was maybe a softball, maybe like a grapefruit size. It wasn't terribly big. It was smaller than a basketball. And it was across the driveway, so it wasn't very far, 25, 30 yards away.

And I was looking dead at this thing, directly looking right at it. And it just gracefully, like, it didn't have a. single care in the world that anything was around, that anybody was watching it, it just like was its own thing. And it was, it was almost like, um, like it didn't belong there, I guess, or we didn't belong there or something. Like, it just had no care in the world that I was standing there. Whether it, if it's, if it's conscious or sentient, I have no idea, but whether it noticed I was there or not, or whatever the light is, whether it's natural, I can't, I've researched natural lights and nothing comes close to what I saw. So,

the first one was grapefruit size, maybe a little bit bigger. And the second one, I have no idea because I didn't actually see the source of the light. I just saw that yellowish, tingy glow through the trees. I know you had mentioned a ball of lightning. And these balls of light that people are seeing, I really want it to be a ball of lightning. But it was been like 10 years ago. I remember researching it. And I think you have better odds of winning the power ball than actually seeing a ball of lightning. I'm kind of curious to what you think Bigfoot is, but before I ask you that,

what do you think that these lights are? Yeah, so that's the reason, and I thought about this a lot, because I knew you were going to ask that question. And I knew before, like as soon as I contacted you, I knew we're going to talk about Bigfoot, but I knew I wanted to bring up the lights. Because I believe you said that almost every single person

that you ask that seen Bigfoot has also seen the light. And it's strange, man, that it only happened twice, and it happened right after the Bigfoot siding and never again. So my belief is these things are connected somehow, some way, whether they come from the same place. Because we'll get into what I think about what Bigfoot is, because I know you're going to ask the question, but I don't think they're from here.

I don't think they're from here. I don't think the lights are from here. I think the lights are like... Man, if I want to go totally wild and say this, just obviously just my opinion, and I'm not even totally sure if I buy into it. But the lights are, I equate them to like me and you going to Walmart and buying a drone and flying it around. You know what I mean? That's what I think they are.

It's something else controlling these or they could be sentient. They're just doing their own thing. I have no idea. But I definitely think that some way they're connected. because they're always, they're always in pairs, you know. They're in same thing with UFOs. Bigfoot's and UFOs, they always happen at the same time. In most occasions, I think.

Yeah, I wouldn't say that everyone that has seen Bigfoot has also seen the lights. It all started for me about 10 years ago when people would have these things on their property and they would also report these weird lights. You may not be wrong about them being drones. I've often thought about that as well. Drones for what? I don't know. But, you know, when people are hiking or it's a real brief siding,

generally they don't report the lights. I know with your road siding, it was basically right next to your home. So that might be a different story. But it's generally when people have these things on their properties, when they actually see the lights. What do you think Bigfoot is? You know, I don't want to sound crazy or anything

and say that it's like alien or whatever because I don't think they're aliens. Maybe they are, I don't know. I don't think they're from here though. I think that, you know, you have some cases where people describe seeing a big foot and it's, you know, got yellow teeth

and it's all dirty with mud and sticks stuck in his hair. And then you have other people that see it and they're like, yeah, this thing, it looked like a nice fur coat and it had nice white teeth. So I'm thinking that maybe possibly that the ones that they're seeing with nice white teeth and fur coats, those things have just been dropped off. You know, they're brand new to the area. They're clean and fresh because they just got dropped off.

And when I say dropped off, I just want to say from a craft, you know, that I don't know because they're 100% they're not an undiscovered primate. There's no chance. They don't move like anything else. They don't act like anything else. There's definitely a language. I've never heard the sounds, but tons of people have, and there's tons of audio recordings of it as well. And the reason why it's definitely not,

I don't believe in evolution. I believe in adaptation, obviously. But even if I believed in evolution, even if we gave that a shot, you know, like, if it was, okay, so you have like uncontacted tribes in the Amazon, right? They're uncontacted. You know, you could whatever you want to, you know, the definition of uncontacted, but my definition of uncontacted is European or white men.

They've never seen them. And when you finally see these uncontacted tribes, they don't look like Neanderthal. They're not covered in hair. They look like us. They look like modern day humans. So if anybody's missing the evolution, it would be people like that, but they seem to be right on par with us. And also, maybe if they were only seen and we're only seen and we're, one spot, like, oh, they're only in this part of the world, then also maybe, but they're

everywhere. They're everywhere. And, you know, the descriptions vary a little bit as well. You know, there's different, there's different, I guess you would say species of the same animal. But I, I, uh, I don't think they're from here. I think that they, they get picked up from somewhere and they get dropped off here. And then they get monitored.

And, you know, this whole cloaking situation that people describe, I, I never saw that, you know, so I don't want to, you know, say anybody's crazy, obviously, but if, if you were a being and you had, and you knew you could cloak to stay invisible and you were in an area that you didn't want to be seen, why would you ever uncloke, you know, you would just stay invisible the whole time? So, you know, people seeing these things cloaking, I don't think it's them. I don't think they have special powers. I just think, and it's, it sounds crazy saying it out loud because I never really.

said it out loud before, but I don't think they're from here. I think they get picked up from somewhere and they get dropped off and they get monitored to see how we react. And that's why they don't hurt people because there's like almost like you, like you say to before, almost like a rules of engagement kind of thing. Like if you don't threaten me, I won't threaten you. I'm just going to go about my business and do my thing. But, but, you know, when they, when they see people, they're surprised, whether they're

surprised they got caught off guard or they're surprised that it's the first time they're seeing, they're seeing one of us, you know, kind of thing. So I don't, I think they're from here. I think they're from somewhere else. Yeah, you know, it's an interesting technique. I've often thought about this as well. And I'd like to say you're 100% wrong, but I can't really disagree with a lot of what you said.

There is a lot of weird things with this subject to where, you know, if it was a normal ape running around, I think we would have caught it by now. And especially, like you said, they're seen everywhere. It's not just one little location where people are seeing these things. They're being seen all around the world. And the lights often do come up. And it does make me wonder if there's some sort of weird correlation between the lights

or maybe the lights are something separate. And they're like a drone. Like what in the world is this saying? And it's hard to say what Sasquatch is. It really is. I want it to be an ape. But in my heart, I just, I don't know. You know, I've seen weird things in the sky.

I've seen, and I can't say that there were UFOs. One of them was very weird. It was me, Woody, and my mother, and we were sitting on the back deck, and it was just a weird thing in the sky. It was like flashing different colors. I can't really say there was a shape to it, but there was definitely up in the sky, and it was just flashing constantly different colors. And the other weird thing I've seen in the sky is one time Woody and I were on. our motorcycles and we were down by the Columbia River. And again, at first we thought it was a satellite.

It was much closer to us than a satellite would be. But I remember watching this thing just zigzag. I mean, it would turn 90 degrees, take off, stop, turn 90 degrees, take off, stop. So there's definitely weird things in the sky. You had mentioned you had seen a couple of UFOs. Do you mind tell me about it? Yeah, sure. So both of these happened before the Bigfoot siding.

One of them was in Plasterville where I grew up. And the other one was in Southern California. I was down there for a month on vacation with my aunt and uncle. And I was with some of my cousins. So the first one of my buddies, he had his own house. He was a little bit older than all of us. We were like 18, 19 years old. No, we were younger than that.

We were 16, 17 years old. But he was like 25. He was older than everybody. But he had his own house. And the roof of the house was flat. So we used to always go on top of the roof and party, you know? And you know what it's like. You remember being 16.

Like I had my own car. So I was not at home. I was out having fun. And there was probably 20 of us up there. And, you know, we're all drinking and smoking, have it in good time. And then I didn't notice it. I wasn't the first one to see it. It was somebody else.

And he tapped me on the shoulder. He's like, look, dude, it's a satellite. and I was like, oh, that's pretty sweet because it's a clear night. You know, I remember everybody wearing T-shirts, so it must have been, again, you know, July, August time, so we're around there. And it was probably 2 o'clock in the morning. It was super late because the cops already came until it shut it down, but we just kept going. We just turned the music down a little bit. But he pointed at me or tapped me and pointed out this thing, said, look at the satellite.

And we're watching the satellite cruise to the air, and then it just stopped. and I was like, well, I lost it. He's like, I'm still looking at the light. It just stopped. And then it's when it started going a different direction. And then it, out of nowhere, it just started like, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing, like jumping from place to place. Like, how do I describe it?

Like, it just started, like, bouncing around the sky. And it was far off, like, really far from us. So I never actually saw the crap. It was just light. But it started, it started jumping different places. and then it floated off like kind of at an upward angle, the opposite direction that it came from. And at this point, you know, as it starts bouncing around,

everybody on the roof is looking at this thing, bouncing around. And everyone's like looking each other like, what the hell is that? And I was like, I don't know, it was floating straight like a satellite, and then it started doing that. And then it kind of just zoomed off. When it went up towards the, in the other direction, it was, if I were to guess, it was moving like 10 times faster than it was at the beginning.

beginning. Like it just was gone. So we're all kind of confused and we're like looking at each other. Like what, what was that? I was the one I was like, dude, it's a freaking UFO, man. And everyone kind of laughed was like, what else could it be? Satellites don't do that. Nothing does that. Stars don't do that. What else could it be? And then and then they're like, man, maybe you're right. And then, uh, and this is the crazy part. This is the part whenever I tell people about it, they're like, okay, you're making shit up. But I don't know, 10 or 15 minutes later, we saw three helicopters fly in the direction of that light. And the helicopters, they didn't have any markings on them.

They were black because you could see the silhouette of them because they went right above the house. And they weren't very high in the sky. I don't know. I have no idea how high they were. But you could see all three of them. You could see their defined outlines. And they didn't have any lights on them or nothing like that. And they weren't like, they weren't very loud.

They were kind of quiet. I was like, dude, those telephires were pretty close. Why are they not, like, blowing the trees around? But they just cruise right over the house, and they went in the direction of the lights. And then that was it. We never heard anything about it. And it was never on the news, like nothing. But we definitely saw it.

Yeah, it's strange, especially with the movement. And, you know, if someone was in that craft, do you think they'd be dead with some of the maneuvers that these things pull in the sky? Makes you wonder sometimes that they have, like, their own gravitation. field or if there's beings inside, it would seem like you would almost have to. What was the second incident? This one was the most amazing thing I've ever seen in my entire life, even more amazing than Bigfoot, because this was insane. And there was six of us.

We were in the backyard at my cousin's house. And we were, there's an Indian reservation down there called the Suboba Indian Reservation. And they have a casino. And I don't know if the casino is on the, reservation or not. I've never been. I've been to the casino a few times to eat and stuff. So I don't, I don't remember if it's on the res or not on the res, but I know they have a casino. And they have, you know, like the giant lights, like at a football game, the big lights that like swirl around in the sky, like the spotlights. They have those. And you can see them and you

can see the glow from the casino, like over the hill in his backyard. Um, because his house was in one of those like new KB home style developments. And his house was at the very back of it. So behind his house was nothing but like sagebrush and hills all like all the way like miles until you hit the freeway. So there was no other house is behind us. And we were out there and you know, we were smoking. And I was like, holy crap, you can see the lights. That's kind of cool. And then, you know, we were just talking or whatever. And my older cousin, Ryan, he's the oldest one out of the bunch. He was just staring up at the sky with his jaw wide open. I was like, dude, are you all right? Are you good? And I like shook him because we are smoking some pretty potent stuff, man. And I shook him like, yo, you good?

And then he looked at me just with his eyes. He didn't turn his head. He's like, dude, look. And he said it very, like, almost like a whisper. He's like, dude, look. And I looked up what he was looking at. And then out loud, I was like, holy shit. And then everybody looked.

And, man, it was. I'm trying to describe the shape. It was like the shape of like a candy bar. It was long. The bottom of it was flat. And it was it was rounded on the top and rounded on the front and back. And it was it definitely looked like it was made out of metal. I don't know.

There was no rivets. There was no, you couldn't see like sections. It was like it was like if you took like a like a butterfinger or something. you dipped it in chrome and then threw it up in the sky. That's what it wasn't like shiny chrome, but that's, it's hard to describe. But yeah, it was just, it was just floating there. And at first my other cousin was like, no, it's just a blimp fool, you tripping. I was like, dude, that's not a blimp.

Look at it. Look at it. He's like, damn, maybe you're rifle. Maybe it's not a blimp. And then we're all staring at this thing. And then like within a blink in my eye, boom, like warp drive. Gone. And I was like, wait a second.

And did we just, did we just see what we saw? And we all went in the house. We were terrified. We went in the house and we talked about it for a long time. And then towards the end of the night, we chalked it up as we were all just, we were all just high or something. So I don't know if, but yeah, I talked to my cousin about it a few times since then. He's like, yeah, that was, that was insane. Because he's never seen anything like that before.

So for us, that was like almost like a bonding thing because after that, we got a lot. lot closer because we started getting interested into the same things. And yeah, that was a, that was an insane, insane thing. And it's, and it floated there for like 10 minutes, like a long time. We all had plenty of time to look at this thing. And this and this UFO siting happened long after the Bigfoot siting. The lights happened right after as well. So I think I was in my 20s when this happened.

And smartphones were definitely a thing. And again, whatever. is the case, but I just never thought to take, in 10 minutes of looking at this thing, and we never thought to take a picture, which I kick myself in the ass right now, thinking back, like, why didn't you, but I just never crossed my mind to thought,

like, I had my phone in my pocket, I believe, and it just never dawned on me that I had a camera that I could have taken a picture of this thing, because it was, it was definitely close enough, because I know when you zoom in on camera, It gets kind of blurry and distorted, but it was close enough where if we would have snapped some photos, it probably would have been pretty clear. But yeah, it was, it just, it was there and then it was gone. And it didn't, it didn't blink out of existence, like, disappear.

It was definitely a motion, like, but it was like, like, your brain can't comprehend what just happened kind of motion. It was just, like, it moved off at such a rapid speed that it was like Star Trek, man, like warp drive, gone. And there was no like weird plume of smoke. There was no light behind it. There was no lights on it at all. As a matter of fact, it was just this metal thing just floating in the sky. And it just zoomed off. And it was insane.

Sounds like you guys saw a Tick-Tac or what they call a Tick-Tac craft. Yeah. So, but the only thing though is the bottom of it was flat. So that's what, because I was, I wanted to say it was a Tick-Tac too. Because I've, you know, you know, seen David Fraver on Rogan and all that stuff. and I know about the Tick-Tac pretty pretty well, but yeah, this thing, the bottom of it was flat. So that's the only difference.

And I don't know why. And it was, it might have been longer too. But yeah, it was perfect description. It was like a Tick-Tac shape, but it was flat on the bottom. And it was clearly flat on the bottom. It wasn't like a visual distortion or some type of, you know,

trick of the light. It was clearly the bottom of it was flat. Yeah, I remember I did a show. It was like hundreds of episodes ago. This, I want to say it was a father. and son, and he had snapped a picture of this craft, and it looked like a tic-tac, like a silver tick-tac. It was longer than what I thought it would be, but it was weird. It was just sitting there above the lake, and the father and son had actually seen the craft come out of the lake,

and it was just kind of hovering there. And much like how you described, he said, like in a blink of an eye, it was gone. It wasn't like it vanished. It just took off. Again, going back to some of these craft, I mean, if there's human beings inside these craft, let's say they're military craft, I don't think you're going to survive very long with some of the G-Force that your body would endure with how these craft actually move. Before we close out, do you think that these craft that people are seeing, do you think that they're from here? It's something the government has created, or do you think they're from somewhere else?

Man, with, so I, I recently saw a thing about, I think it's called Go Fast, not the Go Fast video, the UFO video, but it was a guy, I can't remember his name, but he was on Rogan recently, and he was talking about, you know, he made a video with like a, like a film editor from like Norway or something or Sweden, but they made this video about, you know, how fast you would have to go to get to the closest star, which is like a, like, a, like a film editor from like Norway or something, or Sweden, but they made this video about, you know, how fast you would have to go to go to get to, uh, the closest star, which is like, like, Alpha Centauri or son. I can't remember the name of it, but, you know, at our, our current technology would take us like a thousand or two thousand years to get there.

But with their technology that they're, you know, like fusion, nuclear propulsion or whatever, they could get there in like five months or something like that.

And it obviously is all theoretical because we don't have that technology, but these things move like that. They, they shoot off at speeds. If there's living things inside those crafts, there's no way that they, survive that unless they have some kind of technology i don't i don't think that these things are

from earth and if they are from earth they're not human if they're if they were already here or if there's you know bases under the ocean or you know whatever you know the people are saying i have no idea i don't and and i can't i cannot sit here and call people crazy because i seen what i seen and i hate when people laugh at me in my face when i tell them that's why i i don't tell anybody because that's generally the response you'll get until they have an encounter and they're like damn maybe there's something to this but i don't they're they're not human they're not technology that mankind possesses no freaking way and if and if it is like the tic-tac was in 2004 that's over 20 years ago if that's man-made what what do we have now you know that's just it's crazy to think about

yeah you're right the tic-tac video was like 20 years ago It makes you wonder what they have now. And it makes you wonder where they're coming from. I agree with you. I don't like it's our military. But, you know, no one really knows. And I really appreciate you coming on and sharing the encounter with the Sasquatch. And especially carrying the watermelon, you know, it didn't bother putting its watermelon down.

I've often wondered, too, you know, for such an elusive creature, they'll do this sort of thing. world. They'll just kind of walk out in front of a car and for something so elusive, you'd think that'd be the last thing they would do. But they, you know, eyewitnesses reported all the time. And thank you again, Nick, for coming on. I really enjoyed chatting with you, brother. No, of course. It was, it was my pleasure, sir. It was definitely an honor and, uh, and I appreciate it. Thank you very much. Thank you again, Nick. And that's it for tonight. Everyone, remember, if you've had encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Until

next time, everyone.