Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:1169 No doubt he was coming to kill us

Episode Date: July 6, 2025

Carrie writes "It's taken me almost 3 years to write this email. I've tried a few times over the years but convinced myself that you probably won't contact me so I just deleted the other emails. But I have an encounter that happened to me when I was 20 and the details of what I seen will stick with me for the rest of my life! Long story (extremely short:) Me and my x boyfriend was at the boat ramp on Quintette River in Escambia Florida at dusk. The sun was still up enough we could see good but it was starting to set. This was around the beginning of summer as I remember sitting at the ramp on shorts. We was killing time until we went back to his house. We was there an hour maybe a little more before we heard a HUGE splash from across the river, which is a decent size river. Before the splash, there was dead silence.. Across from the ramp it's nothing but woods and forest for miles. I thought a bear or alligator jumped into the river and was swimming to us so we ran to my truck that was parked at the edge of the ramp. I turned on my headlights so we could see clearly and the creature was already halfway across the river! It was RUNNING NOT SWIMMING with it's hands over it's head almost like an over hand swimming motion but he never went deeper than his chest. The way he was able to cross a river that deep and swift as fast as he did was mind-blowing and I almost couldn't comprehend it at the time. I was frozen in fear when it got to the end of the ramp, I expected it to keep coming up the ramp but instead it pulled it's self up on the DOCK and it stared at us, eyes wide teeth showing. I can describe everything from every wrinkle in his face, his devilish eyes, nails, arms, chest EVERYTHING! The ramp is over 4 foot wide and his chest was as big of not a little bigger then the width of the ramp! It started climbing up the end of the ramp, after I got a good look at everything, I backed up and turned the truck around as fast as I could and got out of there. Years later there are STILL finger nail marks on that ramp where it pulled itself up! Since then I have met my current Boyfriend (he has his own encounter where he was chased by one a couple years before we met) and we love to go out riding at dusk to dawn throughout the night in the forest looking to see what we can come across. We love all animals and how beautiful the night sky is. We stay alert and because of that we have a few different times and I have a couple daytime pictures of different things that happened but none as clear as the time I was less than 15 foot from one. I have more details regarding his face, color and everything from when it came across the river at me but it would take a long time to explain in an email. I truly hope you reach out to me! I would love to tell my encounter and describe in detail every thing I seen as he stared me down in the few minutes before I could drive away. No doubt he was coming to kill us, he was very evil, his eyes dark and teeth showing!"

It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind and it either heard me or smelt me and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up and that shocked me. They don't make people that big. The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything moves like that in my life. They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language and they were chuntering away back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forwards.

I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet that what I saw were bears. What are you reporting? Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That's son of a bitch is about six years. This is about six foot nine. I don't know. Do you see a bouncer?

Yes, I'm looking right in it. Uh-uh. This is Shawnee and Lola from Utah. You're listening to Sasquatch Chronicles. Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show plan for you. We'll be chatting with Carrie.

And Carrie comes to us from Florida. And about 15, 16 years ago, she had this terrifying encounter down at a boat ramp. I'll let her kind of go into it. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Let's jump into it tonight.

I want to welcome Carrie to the show. Carrie, thanks for coming on. Yeah, you're sorry. Thank you for having me. Yeah, and you had this terrifying account down there. had a boat ramp in Florida. Before this encounter happened, what was kind of your take on the whole subject of Sasquatch? I grew up in Florida.

My grandparents lived in Alabama. So when I would go and hang out my grandparents from the summer, he used to always tell me to watch out for the woolly booggers. And I didn't really know what he meant, but I knew that he meant there was obviously something in the woods that I need to be careful of. And I wasn't for sure if it was like a big bear or something, but he just would always tell me you look out for the molybuggers when you're out there. And you could tell it wasn't a joke.

You could tell he was serious. So when I would go out riding my full wheeler, I would always, you know, be careful, make sure there was nothing around that would scare me. If I stopped somewhere because I was big about exploring different places, like I would come across old cemeteries out there that had been grown up and stuff. And I'd, you know, try to like kind of go through it a little bit. And if I'd start hearing something, I'd get out of there, you know, because the granddaddy always told me to watch out for stuff. So I'd never seen one. I didn't really know what it was. But I knew that there was something that granddaddy wanted me be really careful of when I was up there in the woods.

Yeah, I've noticed down south, they don't really use the term Bigfoot. They'll say Woolly Booger. They'll say Booger. I've heard Boogie Man. And, you know, your grandfather kind of warning you about being out there and running into the Woollie Booger. That's definitely interesting. if you would take me back. How long ago did this encounter happen to you in Florida?

And if you would, just kind of walk me into it. It actually happened about 16 years ago. It happened off of Quintet River. And the only reason I know for sure it was 16 years ago is because it was right before I got pregnant on my son. And that's whenever this really clear one happened. I've had a couple little kind of like questionable ones if it was another one later on, you know, just recently.

this year I had one, but the one I'm fixing to tell you about was extremely clear and it was definitely an experience. So about 16 years ago, I had a truck. It was a little S-10 and it had big speakers in it. So you could hear it coming, you know, for a little ways down the road for sure. And even if it was turned down, you know, those base speakers were still kind of loud. So me and my ex-boyfriend at the time, we were going to kill a little bit of time because it was starting to get dark and his brother was at the house and they were fixing to leave and like a big group of people were fixing to leave and we just didn't want to show up you know around a bunch of people so we were just waiting about an hour hour and a half to go back to their house so he pulled up down

quintet river there's a little boat ramp there and we pulled up at the boat ramp there was no one there it was um starting to get dusk not really too dark you couldn't see nothing or anything but you could see perfectly good you know it wasn't like it was questionable what was out there we i mean we pulled up it was still enough daylight. You could see the river. You can see across the river. And this river isn't really a very tiny river, but it's pretty wide. And I never knew really how deep it is. I don't know how deep it is to this day. But I know that when we pulled up down there, I was able to go to the end of the boat ramp, which is about maybe five, between five to six foot from the tip of where my car was parked, because I had pulled my car up as far as I could.

and we got out. I jumped up on the boardwalk. We walked down and we sat down the end of the boardwalk. Well, me and him were sitting out there. It was super quiet. Once I turned off my car, the music stopped. I don't remember really hearing anything, to be honest with you. And occasionally you'd hear a car drive by on the bridge.

But other than that, from what I remember and then talking to him afterwards, we didn't hear anything. We didn't hear crickets. We didn't hear birds. or anything, but we didn't think nothing of it at the time. So we were sitting out there, and we were talking, just kind of like, you know, just chatting, and I am kind of talking of, and I get giggly. So I'm not sure if maybe I laughed too hard, or maybe we were talking too loud.

I don't know what caused it to get so mad at us, but out of nowhere, we heard a huge splash. and when we looked up directly across from where we were sitting, there was this, I could still see it still halfway falling into the water. Like, whatever it was big enough that when the splash started and I jerked my head up, I could still see it still falling into the water. Does that make sense? Like it jumped down off of an embankment that was about maybe two or three foot out of the water on the other side.

And there's trees there, but it's not super, super thick. Like, you can kind of see a little bit through the trees. and we didn't see nothing moving or nothing over there, never heard nothing. And so when it jumped in like that, my first thought was alligator, and then when I seen it still falling in, I was like, no, no, no, no, that can't be maybe a bear. And so me and him looked at each other and we ran up to the truck to turn my headlights on because this river is, I mean, it's wide enough that we didn't feel like we were in direct danger at the time. So we go turn on my headlights, and by the time we got to that headlights and turned them on,

And I'm telling you maybe if I was going to stretch, you know, the distance between where we were sitting to the truck, you couldn't stretch it no farther than 10 foot. But I really believe it was about five or six foot from where we were. It wasn't too far at all. So I jump into the truck and I'm standing right there where I have one foot on my seat and then one foot on the floorboard. I flipped on the truck lights because I'm only five foot. So I'm standing up on top of the truck and I'm looking. And it was weird to understand what I was seeing because I thought it was a monkey, which obviously monkeys are small and really the correct term would probably be in gorilla.

But I screamed out, is that a monkey man? Because it looked like a big old gorilla man coming across the river. And Alvin's face looked at me with big eyes and he just looked at me and didn't say nothing. and I was watching it and it had already made it about halfway through the river and that river is wide West and I don't know how deep it is but I never, never seen that water go anywhere

above his like right above around where his waist would have been. And he came across that river and his hands were coming over his head like you know how people run through the water how they have like that overhand striped thing kind of thing going on where they are running and their hands are coming above their water

to kind of help him go faster. Yeah. Yeah, he was gone across the river like that and I was in pure shock and I was expecting him to come up the boat ramp where the water was and I had my crunk up my truck when I realized how close it had got already.

And I was sitting waiting and I was fixing, like we were in the truck and out of the truck at the same time like we were just waiting to shut the doors because we were seeing how close could we get. And when it started getting closer to that dock me and him both slammed the doors I put it in reverse and I held the brakes.

And I was expecting, like I said, for it to go up the ramp. And I was just going to turn around and leave because I thought once it gets to the ramp, I could just floor it and go. It's some kind of monkey or gorilla go out here because way back in like, I believe like the 70s, there's a story about a zoo that used to be out in the end of Muskogee Road in 29. And in my brain, I remember telling, I remember telling my friend I said, or my ex-law friend I said, there is an old zoo out here. he must have escaped.

And he laughed at me and he said, no, no, no, no, no. But that's all he said. So I'm thinking it's got to be like a grill or something. So when it comes up the water, I'm just going to floor it, turn around, and we're going to get out of here. Well, the closer it got to that dock, it grabbed a hold of the dock and it pulled itself up in the most fluid, effortless motion that I have ever seen. Like, it's giving me chills trying to explain just how simple this huge, just huge creature. pulled itself up easier than

it looked like he was picking up a piece of paper like it was effortless and when he pulled himself up he stopped for a second and I froze he had a normal just what I would explain

what you would think what a cave may kind of look like face he had a flat nose he had eyes he looked human but

animalistic at the same time. He had hair that went above his, it was around his face where it went up above his brow ridge, which was really stuck out in prominent. It came down. I didn't see any hair directly on his nose or mouth area. But everywhere else, it was a reddish-brown, dark color hair, almost like the color, it was exact color of pond straw. Like when it dries out and it gets old and it starts, you know, once it falls. And he had the darkest, I've never seen pure evil in my life

the way I could feel it and see it when he made contact. And I feel like he was just looking straight at me. And every wrinkle he had on his face, because I had the headlights shining right on every wrinkle I've seen it. His skin had a almost not really an ashy color, but like a dry color to it. His nose was pressed flat, like just like a gorilla kind of,

but it was a little bit protruded out where it looked almost like some men's does. He had really prominent, um, mouth structure kind of like, I'm not saying like a muzzle that stuck out, nothing like that. But if you look at, at gorillas, you can tell around our mouth, they have these, like, their lips are kind of pushed

out a little bit. And that's how his was, like around his mouth and his cheeks area, it was a little bit protruded out. He was showing his teeth and just staring at us. And he froze for just, I mean, I don't know how long he sat there, but I know I got a good look. And I did not wait for him to get up on that dock. But he did stop when he pulled himself up. Like, He was just showing us how big he was. That dock is easily four foot wide. He grabbed both sides of it with his arms. He pushed himself up, and his chest was wider than that dog.

He had full hair. I never did see any kind of genitalia, but you could tell it was definitely a man. He was very masculine. He showed his teeth. His teeth wasn't like, it wasn't, They're not like dog teeth or nothing. It just looked like what you would imagine a gorilla's teeth would look like.

They were not white. They were like kind of yellowish a little bit. Yellowish brown like stained. They were just stained. It wasn't disgusting, falling out. It wasn't sharp and scary. It was just huge teeth in a huge body. His chest was covered in that color first, same color as I explained earlier.

and the fear that you got when you looked at his eyes, he was not coming to say, leave. I believe in my heart that he was coming to kill us. And if he was on the other side of that river and we didn't hear that splash, there's no doubt in my mind, we would not have made it out of there. So the second my brain registered,

this is, like, this is it. Like, he's coming to kill us. when he pulled himself up and he froze for just that few, like maybe minute to, maybe a minute and a half. When he froze that minute, minute and a half and I got a good look of what I was seeing, I threw it in reverse. I hit the gas just enough to back up a couple foot. He started to move.

I could tell he was lunging a little forward like he was changing his body, you know, his body weight and I floored it. I threw the back end of that tail of my truck around. It hit the dock, the very end of the dock. It jumped off of that dock. hit the ramp a little bit, about two foot where I didn't back up far enough. I was just so scared. We hit that ramp tire spun and we were down the ramp. The most scary part was when you go down that boat launch to get out of there, you have to drive down Quintet. So you're side by side Quintet.

So you're going down and then that boat, that old road turns just a little bit and at the same time you can see the highway. And when it turns, you got a stop sign. And Quintet, goes when you go if you're coming from the bridge it's straight way over the bridge you go right past that little road the boat ramp road and then there's a big curve in the road so i get to that curve right there i look at you know my boyfriend at the time and he's pointing to go back towards it because that's where we have to go home and i'm shaking my head no no no no the whole time you know when i'm taking that curve i'm shaking my head no and he said go because we didn't know if it was behind us or not but i was terrified he was waiting up there on the road and

and he kind of came up that little road and he was waiting to cut us off. Alvin, when he looked at me and said, go. I just turned the tires and I went straight towards his house. I floored as fast as I could and my heart was racing because I was just waiting for that big thing to just come and push my car over because I know it was big enough.

There's no doubt in my mind. It couldn't just push over a little S-10 at the time. But he only lived about, I don't know, maybe three miles from there. And I'm telling you what, I dropped him off and I went straight to my mama's house, which was a good 15 miles from there. I was not going to stay anywhere over there that night.

But, yeah, that was really intense. Like, I'm scared to go down there. So I had been a couple of times during the day where I had pulled up my dad just to check the waters down there. And he knows I will not go fishing there. But Skambi River is a really high river. So we'll check the water there sometimes and we'll go way up and launch and if it's a good, you know,

if it's down good. and I've been there my dad I won't get out of the truck but when I went with my boyfriend he talked me into he's like come on it's the middle of day you know I definitely keep my firearm with me now

which honestly back then between you know it's probably not legal but I did have a 38 on me back then when I turned 16 I always had one in the vehicle with me and um I didn't even try to grab it because I knew there was nothing that was going to do there was absolutely nothing that gun was going to do to this

it was so big but um he had to have to be as a judge, which is a bigger one, you know. So he talked to me and he got into getting out of the car with him. And I pulled up to the boat ramp like I did that one time. I backed in this time, though. We got out. I walked in the boat ramp and it was so terrifying. It has been years since that's happened. But it took me right back to it because I was just waiting for him to come around the corner. He's got to be here. You know, that's why I kept thinking myself, like there's no way he was this confident coming to get us. This has to be his hunting grounds. It has to be.

like he's probably bringing off numerous people here. So I'm out there scared and we get to the end of the boat ramp. And I'm not kidding you. And I tell you, there is still claw marks at the end of that boat ramp. You can see where two hands I came up at the end of that boat ramp and there is literally fingernail claw marks. And that's another thing is I've seen his fingertips. I've seen his hands on that thing.

Like they don't have claws like big long claws. They just have a man's hand. It's weird. It's definitely been, I believe it's been around for as long as any other animal has been here. It did not look to me like it was any kind of government-made kind of animal or something. I mean, that thing's been around. It has too many features like we do. And it has intelligence because him waiting at the end of that river like that

and just waited to come over, he had to have been there forever. That's planning, you know. Yeah, that's terrifying. I mean, for him to jump into the river and just beeline for you, he's not hiding, he's not concealing what he's doing. You know, in situations like this, I do think that you're in danger. I know that you don't know, and I don't know, but I mean, looking back now, what do you think set him off? I have thought about this a whole lot. So for the last 16 years, like I told you, this happened right before I had my son, okay?

I was ovulating at the time, obviously. I mean, I got pregnant with him shortly after this. So my thinking was it being a wild animal in a mill, he might have smelled that and wanted to either mate, you know? And if that wasn't, and I don't think he would have just like, if I was another wild animal, I don't think he would just made to me and left. You know what I mean? I think he was coming to do something and then probably wouldn't have made it

no matter what, if I was an animal or not at that point. Because the aggression, like you said, was extremely, extremely mean. But the aggression part, even though I felt it, I had a man with me. So maybe it was more of a, I'm going to fight you. Or if it was like, you know what I'm saying? You know how animals will fight each other, two males will fight. So I don't know if maybe that aggression of anger of hate and like the killing thing I got wasn't directly exactly at me. Maybe that was more of mel to melting.

but I also wondered if we were there at the boat ramp where people fish. There's sometimes people are not responsible. They'll sit there and shell some, you know, like cut off the fish heads or whatever and either throw them into the water, throw them into a trash can out there or something, you know, as a boat ramp. So some people just aren't as, you know, courtesy as others. And maybe he came out there and just get a quick meal.

And there's also the option that when you're coming down that little road, guy quintet. When you first, right before you get to the actual parking lot, there's a little stream runoff. And when it floods up there, it'll fill up this little late thing more and it'll come back down. But it holds water there at this little pond. And that's a really good little fishing pond because a good fish gets stuck there. So either he was coming to hunt and that was his hunting ground and he was ready to eat and he got aggravated with us. That's my, that's my thought. Either the other one is, either I was, you know, I was, you know, a woman right there at my prime age. I just got pregnant a few months, like a month and a half after that.

So I was probably really fertile at the time, you know. Maybe he smelt it and he was coming to see, you know, check it out. And I had a guy with me. That's a primal instinct. Or my music might have been loud when I pulled up even though it was turned down because that bass is so loud. It's like boom, boom, boom, even if it's low. So maybe he got mad because I messed up something that was,

going on, you know, and he was come to take his anger out on us. Or I laughed too loud at the river. I'm not sure. But something said him off and it had to have been, I believe in my heart, one of those. When this creature came up on the dock, was he squared up with you guys? And was there any expressions on his face? By squared off, you meant like two men when they get like when they're like bowed up, like they're just showing like they're showing a masculine side. Is that what you're you know like when he see two idiot guys that want to fight they always puffed their chest out and they look like blowfish was it that kind of a posture exactly like that yes sir he sure was he sure was he had stopped like i said it might have been a minute and a half for two minutes tops but he was showing off his his strength for sure he had he had his like i said both sides so he when he pulled his hands up imagine a dot a square at the end right and if you were big enough, which, you know, humans aren't normally ever going to be big enough. But if you take both hands and you put them in towards each other, so they're facing towards each other and you have them

on the outside rim of that dock, not the side that's facing your stomach, but on both sides, you know, across from each other. And you pulled yourself up like that. That's how he pulled himself up, which is almost unnatural, you know what I mean? Because people would just put their hands in front of them facing towards the, you know, fingertips facing outwards and then just pulled herself up. But he didn't. He had his hands on both sides, which would make his muscles and his arms show more. And like I said, it was so effortless. But when he did, you could see his muscles in his arms, his chest, his shoulders.

His, what he got traps up there in his shoulders? They were massive. His chest was pushed out. He was, he was huge. And it was almost like he was showing it. like he wanted us to see just how big he was and the expression on his face was pure evil you know when you're mad your your eyebrows wrinkle your nose you know what I mean you get mad you show a little bit of teeth you know like you get a mad look his expression on his face was more evil and mad than I've ever seen in anything absolutely anything he had his teeth out with people say their lip flip up I didn't see his lip flip up what I seen was his lip just come up as if he were going to, like, he made the growling sound like a dog like, er.

That's what he did. But he didn't growl. I didn't hear him growl. Doesn't mean he didn't growl. When I tell you how I went to pure primal fear, I don't remember hearing Alvin said that he was sitting there screaming go before I even went. I didn't hear anything. For some reason, it was like everything just started ringing really loud in my ears.

And all I could do was just freeze. So he could have been making, a growling noise or something, but I didn't hear it. But it's almost like whenever an animal or you would go grr, and you'd show your teeth. That's how he kind of did it. So he was like really wrinkled in his cheeks. His eyebrow wrinkles were deep. His forehead was crinkled up.

But his eyes were still so, like whenever I do that gher sound, my eyes kind of squint. His wasn't, though. His was still open wide enough that all I could see was that pure evil darkness in his eyes. You know when you look at a dog and you can, can see, oh, he's just a cute little puppy. And he gets mad. You can also see in his eyes, oh, he's got a little fencing side. This one right here, he had a pure evil side.

I mean, I've worked at, I've been a firefighter. I've been first responder, you know, being a firefighter. I've come across situations where, you know, you've seen some people as absolutely just lost everything, you know, and you've seen people in pure rage that's caused the pain to make people lose everything. And that evil that they have, when they're able to commit crimes, it can take away somebody's life and stuff.

There's only been a couple situations where I've actually had to, I've pulled up and I've seen a murderer. And when I did, his eyes was not as evil as this one. I've worked at the courthouse. I've watched murders go on trial. And have you ever seen how they just have that blank look also? Like, when they go to court,

they just have that blank look. Like, it looks like, you know, no regret, no, no nothing's there. like they didn't feel nothing. Well, you could tell this guy that pulled himself up on this dog, this Sasquatch for sure was a Sasquard. You could tell that he had pure evil, and I don't think there would have been any remorse,

and I don't think that he would have ever thought twice again to do it again. I believe that if you're going to be out there at night and you're in the woods or you're anywhere that you suspect there's going to be something, you had better have a game playing to get out of there every witch away and be ready to lose your life if you have to because this thing was pure, pure evil. Yeah, I always say, you know, when I was a bouncer, I used to always watch people's eyes more than their posture because the eyes will betray them.

The eyes will tell you exactly what someone's going to do. And, you know, to your point, I was watching a documentary on serial killers. I'm not sure why, but I think it just came on TV. but one thing that to your point that I noticed is if you look into their eyes, they're soulless, they're empty. And I was curious what you meant by evil, but I think you explained it really well. I wanted to ask you, I might have missed it in the beginning, but when he climbed up on the dock, how far away from you was he when you guys were sitting in the truck? So, you know, like I said, about five or six foot from the hood of my car.

So an S-10's hood is what, maybe a couple foot. maybe three foot, what do you think, maybe three foot out, maybe tops from, because you got to remember at first I had one foot on my seat, because I'm five foot. I had one foot on my seat, one foot on my, um, the floor board, and I was staring over the truck, you know, so I was sitting there. And then once it got right there to the dock, me and him both got in and shut the door. You know what I mean?

So maybe 10 foot max. It would not, I mean, I would be shot to say 10 foot, but I'm going to say 10 foot because 10 foot really in the grand scheme of things is not that far away. You know, my boyfriend is six foot. He could have laid in front of that truck and maybe had, I don't know, a couple foot before the end of the dock. Yeah, I must have missed that in the beginning.

You guys are way too close. I wanted to ask you, when he came up on the dock, you kind of described it as a caveman. Did it look more like a man or did it look more like an animal? I got the impression that I was looking at a type of mammal, let's just put it that, because I'm telling you right now, it's got intelligence, I could feel it then, you know, like whenever you're, if I go to the zoo and I look at a gorilla, it's got this little look that's just like, you know what I mean?

But if you go down the road, you can see all kinds of people from their IQ being low and being really intelligent, and you get that, you can tell when you're around something that's got an IQ level that's actually equivalent to something that matters, you know? So when I was staring at it, there was no doubt in my mind, I was staring at a mammal that looked like to me, something that just was not in our history books yet. I mean, no doubt in mind. I screamed, oh my God, it's a monkey man, because at first, that's my brain trying to connect the dots between a man and a monkey, you know, and technically it would have been a gorilla. But in that huge rush of what the heck am I seeing, that's the initial thought

was a monkey man? What the heck is a monkey man doing out here? You know? It looked like a gorilla's in the face, but it looked awesome like a man. Like most people say, oh, he looked more manly. Or oh, he looked more gorilla type.

This one, I had to put a percentage to it. You know, I would say it was almost 40% human and 60% monkey maybe, just because the eyebrow ridge the mouth structure, how his mouth protrured out a little bit but the rest of the face,

the eyes, the way he had expression to it, the way he was able to look and give you that feeling of you're dead. You know, that's not an animal. It's like prey where he's looking at you're like, food, you know?

This was a, you are dead look. So I feel like he, it's not more monkey, it's not more man. I truly believe that it's got into, I think it's got an IQ. I think it's got,

just looking at it immediately. That's what I've thought from the beginning. I felt like it's probably a, you know, I don't know. I mean, I know what, I mean, I have a good idea of what I think it was, but at the very second that that happened, I truly just thought that I didn't think that it was like a human that made it with an animal.

I felt like it was just another branch of possibly an animal humanoid thing that's got animal characteristics and humans. It's just looking at it right then, just made me feel like it was an animal that hadn't been in the history books yet. When I was staring at it at that moment, I still knew it was like different than a normal animal. I felt like it was kind of humanish for sure, like a lot. Yeah, I feel for you guys being in an S-10.

S-10's not a very big truck. So when he gets up on the dock, how tall do you think he was? He never did. I did not wait long enough for him to get all the way up on that dot. So when he pulled himself up, he got himself up right there to where I would estimate a belly button, the bottom of the hip area would be. And he started pulling himself forward, you know what I mean, to pull the rest of his body up. And that was about the time that I was turning my truck around already. So I did not wait for him to get all the way up onto that dog.

I did not wait. It was like, when he pulled himself up and he stopped, I already had my truck to reverse, my foot on break. And I stared and trying to figure out what am I looking at. and whenever his body structure started to shift weight, I had put it in reverse, backed up a few foot. By the time I was turning my truck around, he was like, you know, he wasn't going as fast as he was at first.

When we were out there and didn't have no kind of cover around us, he was going a lot faster. Once we ran that truck and he pulled himself up, he had paused for about a minute or so. I was ready to go on reverse. Once the second I noticed that his body started change or shift, or maybe before he did it, I went ahead and started backing up.

I'm not sure, I'll be honest with you. But I only backed up a couple of, I didn't even back up far enough. Like I said, when I turned my truck around the back end, still had to come off about a foot or so of that dock. But whenever he started to change his weight, does that make sense? Or right before maybe he changed his weight, I had to start backing up just a little bit. And then by the time I went to turn that truck around and that, the trucks, you know, they're very light in the back.

And it's a real drive. So when it shit, and I turned that truck and I floored it like that, it threw gravel and everything. and the last thing I remember seeing was his weight of his body was leaning forward almost to where I would guess our hips and legs meet. And that's the last part I've seen was him leaning forward like he was coming up on that dock still. So, I mean, I did feel like he was going to be coming for us. And I know in my heart that if I would have had my truck parked in the parking lot

where you're supposed to park it, because the parking lot connects to the boat ramp, don't get me wrong, but the place you're supposed to park is 30, 40 foot away from where the dock is pretty much, maybe even more, depending on where you want to go in the parking lot. If I was parked there, no way would I have been able to make it to our truck and get in before that thing had already hit that land or pulled itself on the dock then. I don't know which way it would have went. But there's no way I would have made it to that truck before he had already made to cross the river. because all we did, when we heard that splash, like I said, I'm always alert.

So when I heard that splash, I'm already, I'm jumping up at the same time. And that's when I can, you know what I mean? I heard that splash. I'm automatically in go mode. So we heard the splash. I was jerked my head up. I seen something was still falling and I'm standing up trying to get the truck to see what's going on, you know? So if it took him by the time I, I mean, I'm, okay, so sorry, I get like, is bringing back a lot of fear for some reason, explaining it.

so detailed. But when we heard that splash and I hurried up and I'm trying to get up on my feet and run, I ran down that dock, which is not a long dock at all. Run down that dock. I jump into my truck and turn them headlights on. He's already halfway across that river. And if I could, if I had a computer right now and I meant to look that up, I wanted to see how wide that river is right there for you. So I can really give you a good description because I'm telling you by the time I got to my truck just a few foot away from us, that thing was already halfway across the river. And that river is swift, you know, it's not like a rushing river that's so swift you can't even walk across. But if me and you want to try to walk across a river like that, you wouldn't walk straight,

it would end up pushing you at an angle. And he came straight across. And by the time I turn the them headlights on, I am not kidding when I tell you, he was already halfway across from where we were sitting. Like he had already made it that far, just in a few foot of me running and flipping my headlights on, which is nothing but a little switch. Flip and he's halfway across. I'm staring a few minutes, not even minutes. I say minutes and it's not. But I'm staring and he's up at the end of the dock. You know what I mean? This whole encounter, it might have been fast in the grand scheme of life. But this whole encounter, it was like, how, how, is this happening he's so fast he's so big oh my god he's here to kill me i'm going to die tonight

you know i mean it was just like went from having a great day to so fast i'm going to be dead there's no doubt he was going to kill us like i said if me and him didn't make it to the truck i know from where i'm sitting it looked like he had eyes locked on me personally it looks like we were eye to eye you can tell when someone's looking at your eyes or the person next to you even if you're across the room, you can tell by the shift of eyes where they're looking. And I promise you, I don't know if it's because it's me, you know, in my perspective of what happened. But it felt, and I remember thinking at the time too, why is he staring straight at me? You know, like his eyes are locked into mine.

So I don't think that it would have been a friendly encounter. I mean, I really think he was coming to kill us. I don't think me or my ex would have made it out there a lot. We would have probably ended up being one of those trucks was here. Two people end up missing. Or were you here, you know, attacked by some animal or murdered? No sex specs or something crazy. I can definitely understand the way you feel.

And I'm kind of glad you went into that. I was curious if the focus was on you or your boyfriend. And you're right. When something's looking at you, you can tell, is it looking at me or is it looking at this other person? Obviously, his focus was on you. And you know, there is Native American warnings that in old accounts that they have, like when a woman is on her period, it drives these things crazy. I don't know if they can smell it or, you know, I, I, I,

I don't know. The only time I can tell when a woman's on her period is when she's usually yelling at me. But I wanted to ask you, when you guys got back to, and it's all said and done, what was that conversation like with your ex? The whole way to his house, I'm telling him, you need to stay with me and I. That thing is going to come to your house because it's only a couple miles down the road. He wasn't really like in pure like, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. he was more of like soaking it in still and trying to register. And he was like, no, it's fine.

It's at the river. But he wasn't, I don't think he was thinking clear because my thought was get as far away as you could. And he was like, no, it's at the river. I don't know what just, like, why would it do that, you know? And me and we're talking back and forth kind of thing, but the whole conversation where we were actually able to sit down and be like, what just happened? That happened over the phone after like I got home in about 20 minutes after the whole incident

happened. I dropped him off. I tried to get him to stay with us that night. wouldn't. He was like, no, no. Like, it's miles down the road. I'm fine kind of thing. So I was like, all right, well, you're on your own then, buddy, because I ain't staying here. And I went back to my house at the time I was living with my parents. But I called him up. We had cell phones, you know, so I spoke to him the whole time I got home. And by the time I was able to get into my bedroom and shut the door and take a breath and just feel safe, that's by the

time that we were able to have a whole conversation about it. That's when he was the one that said that was a Sasquatch because I kept calling it monkey man monkey man monkey man you know but I knew for some reason that it wasn't a monkey and a man but that's just at the time shock you know and whenever he

when I heard him say that was a Sasquatch that's a big foot carry over the phone that's when it was like woolly bugger that is what granddaddy was talking about those are the monsters in the woods that you're supposed to be scared of

it was more of a conversation of well dang what's the chances that we ran into this animal here there couldn't be more than maybe 10 in the world or something you know what I mean kind of idea that's what we had thought at the time like what's it doing here in our town and we figured we were talking and back and forth and I remember asking him like well why does no one else talk about it I mean you know and he was telling me, well, there's probably not hardly even out there ever. Like, we just accidentally was in the wrong place at the wrong time. And the changes that are happening is probably extremely rare.

There couldn't be more than maybe 10 in the world. I remember I'm saying that at the time. Yeah, there's definitely more than 10. And, you know, sometimes people will say, well, I thought they were only in the Pacific Northwest, but they're all over the United States and other countries as well. I wanted to ask you, I know going back to the spot, of a location where you had an encounter, there is that almost like PTSD that comes back,

how you were saying like, you know, you're, you go check the water levels, but you don't get out of the truck with your dad. And I get that. I get that completely. But beyond that, you know, I know you grew up in the woods. You're running around the woods on your grandfather's property. And, uh, but after this encounter, how did it kind of affect you? So when this happened, And I mean, I used to go camping. We were just camping like the weekend before on Excambia River. I mean, not Excambia, but Pareda River, which is just like right across the main highway from there. You know, it's not too far apart.

The two are not far apart at all. But we were actually camping out the weekend before me and my friends. We used to go all the time camping. There's a big sandbar on the Alabama. Because Pareda River splits Florida and Alabama line. So one side you're in Florida, the other side you're technically in Alabama. So we would go across the Alabama side, we'd camp out and, you know, I mean, at the time I was 20 years old, you know, and right there around that legal drinking age, but not quite at 21 yet, you know. And we would go and take alcohol and just go right across the river to the Alabama side.

And we'd camp there for two or three nights because no one, the cops can't do nothing. We're in Alabama and they can't check our coolers and we keep it in cups and stuff. So it's not like we were broadcasting it over there, you know, but no one would ever mess with some. you know, kids camping across the river. So if we wanted to go and have a couple drinks or something, which I've never been one to drink a lot anyways, but at that age I was, you know, trying different kind of beers or whatever, you know, mixed drinks.

But we would go out there and we'd camp for three or four days on the river and, you know, get up the next day or so. Like we had a long weekend, we go Friday night, Saturday night, you know, all day, Sunday and pack up and leave, you know. It was nothing for us to do that. We had a couple tents and that was like our second home at the time. All of us kids, we did it all the time. I grew up going out there and camping as long as I can remember since my parents would let me go anywhere, you know?

Since this encounter, I haven't been camping a single time, not once. Going down trails to go to a river today, I'm still extremely cautious. The whole time I'm in a river or creek or anywhere, Like I don't swim in dirty, nasty, muddy river. If it's not crystal clear and I can't see how pretty clear the water is I'm not in it anyways. But I can't, I'm not saying they have to go underwater nothing. I'm just saying, though, like I don't go out to all these huge rivers and swim that's like big ones. I go to little ones.

So when I'm in the little creeks or the rivers or whatever I'm swimming at, they're not that wide. So the whole time I'm there, I'm scared of something on this side, on that side. You know what I mean? I'm not able to relax. I'm not able to be ignorant in the wild no more. and that's just the best way I can explain it. Yeah, you know, I can relate a lot to that, that feeling that you have. Your grandfather, did you ever get a chance to tell him about this or had he had passed at that time?

No, sir, I didn't. Yep, he passed. He had actually passed maybe a year and a half before then. And I wish more than, so there's a lot of times that my granddad, he was the best granddaddy I had ever met. I mean, I've never met no one else's grandparents. It's been as great as my granddaddy was, you know. And I might be a little biased, but he was an amazing man. But he would have a way to teach you a lesson when you were a little girl that you would not understand was a lesson until you got an adult in the situation that you needed to know it in. I mean, it was amazing, you know, the way he was able to just, I don't know. I listen to, I've always been the type of person that I'd rather learn from your mistake than me ever have to go through any mistakes.

You know what I mean? So when granddaddy would try to teach me. me stuff. You know, I just remembered a lot of knowledge he used to give me. And I wish more than anything, though, I could have talked to him about it because he was the one that kept telling me the williebuggers are out there. And there was something else that Granny would call it. It was the devil, the wood devils, or I can't remember what she used to call it. But it was something else. And I knew they were the same thing. Even as a kid, I didn't think there was two different animals that were super dangerous out there, you know. But I wish more anything I could have

talk to him about it. I know he knows about him, though, because there was a time where my granddaddy took me, he gave me a piece paper, and he said, I was maybe six years old. I know I had to have been six because of what happened that made him do this. But he handed me a piece of paper, and he said, Carrie Jail, I want you to go outside and sit at this table. He said, I want you to listen to nature, and I want you to draw me what you think a boogey man looks like. You draw me what you believe a boogeyman is, somebody that's going to hurt you, you know, or something that's going to hurt you. He said, not someone. He said, something. He said, you draw me what a boogeyman is. And I drew a monster with fur and hair and teeth and horns. You know what I mean?

And when I gave it to him, you know, granddaddy, the way he is, you know, he was like, you drew a great monster. He said, that is a monster. But he said, the monsters I'm telling you about are the ones in Walmart. They're the people that walk beside you every day. Boogiemen are the ones that are going to walk by you and you have no idea that they're even. and they look like us. But the fact that I drew a furry, hairy, hairy monster, the horn's obviously off. I was six.

But that right there tells me that there was a lot of times when Granddaddy was saying boogeymen, there was some point that obviously he explained to me that while I'm in the woods, I need to watch out for an animal that was furry, you know, a big hairy animal because I wouldn't have drew that. You know what I mean?

For a monster, I would have probably drew like, you know, Frankenstein. So even though he was trying to teach me a different lesson or whatever, since he was the one that was always telling me to watch out with the woolly bookers and stuff, he grew up on a little dirt road his whole life. They've had that property since, I don't, I mean, it's the only things ever changed since, you know, the government. He got, I don't even know how long it's been in the family. But he grew up out there with like 12 brothers and sisters,

but that only house that was out there for, I'm talking about 10, 20 miles. Like, he was out there in the middle of nowhere. So he grew up and he, he had. had to have known about him. He had to have. Yeah, just from you talking, it sounds like your grandfather was a great man. And I do think that he probably did see one of these creatures, especially with all of his warnings about woolly boogers. You kind of alluded to it earlier as far as what you think Sasquatch is, but how would you kind of classify this animal? Like, what category would you put them in? I know in my heart of hearts, I know.

know that Sasquatch, it's a real flesh and blood mammal. There's no doubt in my head about that. There's a mammal, flesh and blood. I 100% believe, just like there used to be different types of, like, you know, humans that walked around, I believe that this was just one of those other types from way back when there used to be more than one type of people. So I believe that it's a type of human that has its own classification. It's not an animal like a dog, cat, monkey, or gorilla. I don't believe it's an animal like that at all.

I believe it's more of a different type of a human the whole time that we've been here. They've been here. Yeah, that's an interesting take. Whatever they are, they do seem to be more of something ancient. you had mentioned this other incident that happened to you it was about a year ago. It was around six months ago, maybe seven tops, that me, my current boyfriend and my son,

we all decide that we're going to go for a ride. And that's something that we do a lot. Me and my boyfriend go out in the woods almost daily at night. We'll go for a little afternoon drive if we can after work, if we have enough time. If not on the weekends, we're definitely out there. And he had his own encounter at one point. So we like to go out there and drive around.

And there's certain ponds that we like to go to, cypress tree ponds and stuff. And we look for alligators and all kinds of other animals. But secretly, me and Chase are also looking to see if we can find any kind of other evidence or a Sasquatch out there. Is it a safe distance that we can actually see again? You know, even though I don't want to be in a situation where I'm as close as I was, there's this drive to want to see it again, see more, watch it in this environment, see what it does, how it reacts. So I was able to talk training going for a ride with us. And we went out to Cypress Pond and it was dark.

And it was about the third or fourth Cypress Pond we hit that night. When we get up to the Cypress Pond, it's in the middle of the woods. I always turn my car and I slowly go, like in the road, I'll turn my car just enough where I'm angled, you know, and I slowly turned back so the headlights will scan the river or not the river, but the pond the best I can, you know, on the road. And I was scanning the river or the pond, I keep saying river. scanning the pond and we were looking for alligator shine looking for alligator shine and then all of a sudden all three of us well it started off with me i was like what is that up there because it would look like two eyes and it was gapped out far enough and it was across a pond that it was clear

two separate eyes and trace seen it right away he said mom those are eyes what are they doing it because it was too high off the ground to be up there. It wasn't in a tree top of high, but I'm just saying relatively, it was higher than it should have been for a deer. And Chase was having problems seeing it because there was like a tree in the pond. So I maneuvered my car just a little bit,

and I backed up, and as soon as I backed up just enough, he said, that's a Sasquatch carry. And I knew right then when I seen the eyes, that's probably what it was. But I didn't say nothing because my son's in the back seat, who doesn't believe in anything, and I'm not trying to scare him,

because we are at an extremely safe distance right now where, wait, let me back up. My mind's saying we're at a safe distance right now, but really it could have gone wrong easily, you know. So we're sitting there looking at it and we see there's another set of eyes and it's downwards and over to the left some and they blink. Okay. So we see the bigger set and it blinks. And I'm like, oh yeah, that thing blinked.

And then all of a sudden we seen it take a couple steps to the, side and it went right behind a tree. There was like this gap of area. You could see the moon was behind it, you know, that was shining towards us and our headlights was shining over the pond at it. And it stepped in between, like, behind a tree area. And I said, that thing's going to hide. And Tray said, where did it go? Did it climb up the tree or something? Because we couldn't see it for a few seconds. And all of a sudden, it popped its head out and it looked at us. And we seen it blink again. And it put its head back behind. That one that was farther over to the left, it was almost just like it looked down at the ground.

You could see his eyes just turned down towards the ground. Like he was just hiding his face for some reason. Like I don't know if they know they have eyeshine or not, but he was hiding his face and it would look up and then it would lay its like head back down almost. We sat there and we watched this thing almost bend down. So when it was in between the two trees, there was way too much area there for anything to be hanging on to a tree

year. It wasn't already on it. You know, there's no way. It was too big of a gap between the trees that nothing could have been, you know, hang on to either tree. So when that big one was standing there before it went behind the tree, we watched it look down at the ground with his eyes shine because you could see the eyes clear. And like I said, they were gapped out and big enough that we've seen the head looked downwards because you could tell the way the ice shine changed. It looked down. And then it looked back up. And while I was looking up, it looked like it almost just squatted, like it was going to pick up something, but it only went down like two foot or three foot. And from how high up it was, it looked like there's no way it could have really picked something up. So maybe it was just like

thinking about going down and changed its mind or maybe it looked down seeing the stick and wanted to pick it up. I don't know. But we watched it move up down and then over, which clarified in my mind, there's not some kind of tree there I don't see. It's not farther back in the woods. It gives the illusion it's that tall. It is that tall. And as it peaked out behind that tree after it was behind the tree every once in a while, we sat there and we watched it for a long time. We didn't move probably 25 minutes. We sat there and watched them both.

The one that was actually laying, the more our eyes adjusted, the more we could see that it was a lighter color than the ground around it. Like, we could actually see that it was a more of a lighter color shining back in the headlights than just the dark nothingness behind that bigger one. and finally my son said, Mom, I'm really scared. Can we just go ahead and get out of here? And I said, yeah, we can.

So we went ahead and left that area. Well, the next day, both of them, the whole wired home, we got to go back there the next day. We got to go back tomorrow. We got to check out what's out there. And I'm like, oh, no, you're not. I don't care what's daytime or not. You ain't going.

You know, absolutely not. Like, y'all are nuts. They're out there during the day and night. We're not doing it. Well, after talking and talking and talking, I finally caved in. So it's 11, 30, 12 o'clock, midday, the next day, okay? And they caught me by saying,

let's just go drive through the area and see what it looks like and we'll fill it out that way. And I knew then they were going to try to talk to you and getting out the car. So we get out there to that pond. We go straight there. I hesitantly park and I'm looking around really good. And Chase gets out of the car.

He's like, I got to pee, gets out of the car, and he's not peeing. Okay? And Trey's like, oh yeah, I do too. And I look both at it. And I'm like, do not go in those woods. And before I could even say woods, both of them are laughing and running towards the woods. They're like, oh, my God, all I'm not being serious right now.

Like, this is so dangerous. It's not a joke, you know? And once they got to the woodline, both of them stopped and they were looking around and they're really cautious. They go over there. They walk along the pond. And I don't see them make any expressions. You can see them talking back and forth and kind of looking around. like they don't see nothing, you know?

And I'm like, okay, they're fixing to come back because that's the area that it was in. And a few more steps forward, both of them stopped. And I could see them really looking at something out in front of them and their faces was just like fear. Like I could see how terrified both of them. It's not like they were scared like, oh, I'm not big and strong. I'm just like, oh, I'm so scared little.

No, it was more of a shock of terrified. Like this thing is a lot bigger than what we thought, kind of look on his face. You know what I mean? Like both of them were just like, you know, you could tell that they were very concerned, alarmed. I called Chase on his phone because instead of screaming back and forth in the woods, I'm too scared that I'm going to attract something back here, you know, with my kid right there. And these woods are, I don't know I say woods. It's just like a couple trees here and there.

It's not a big, thick forest at all. So I called Chase. I'm like, what do you see? And she said, Gary, he said, there is a huge area out here that it's a big, that it's a big, big forest. that is laid completely flat with the grass. And this grass that was grown up was like that yellowish, you know, old hay-looking grass stuff

that grows out in fields and stuff that just gets too high when you don't cut the grass, you know, when it gets really high. He said, there's a bed out here. He said, not like a mattress, but like bedding, like where an animal has laid down. And he's a hunter, so he knows what it looks like.

So I said, maybe a deer. And he said, no, this is not a deer's bed. He said, there's actually, and I'll have to ask them exactly what they thought. I mean, not what they thought, but what they seen, what I think they told me was that there was like, all this stuff was pressed down really good. There were some like old like tree limbs and stuff

that were kind of around one side of it, almost kind of piled up a little bit on the backside of where the pond would be. And he said that it would be perfect for them to just kind of like lay down there and completely disappear to any car that might drive by. and he said that it was so fresh looking like he was convinced that that they might have been there just a few minutes before we had got there. So they left really, really fast after they've seen that. Yeah, that's creepy.

I would caution you in not going into areas like that where you come across what appears to be very large betting, almost like what you would see a gorilla do. Or if you go into an area and there's a ton of structures everywhere, I would be real careful going into a place like that. The aggression you got at the boat ramp, you may end up seeing it again in an area like that. And I really appreciate you coming forward and sharing the encounter. You know, I know it's not the easiest thing to get through an encounter like that. But thank you so much for coming on. And I really enjoyed chatting with you.

Yeah, no problem at all. Thanks for having me on. I've really wanted to come on. but I've been a little nervous to reach out, so I really, really appreciate it. I think it's important that we talk, that we spread awareness on this. Like, if you have an encounter, you speak about it right now.

There's no definitive animal. I don't want to say they need to go in zoos, but I'm just saying, like, it's not put down, hey, this is a Sasquatch in school. It's not taught. This is here. It's real. So I think it's important that we all give our encounters.

So anybody who is studying their behaviors can maybe take note of them, you know, and maybe find similarities. and we can get some answers going on about what this is. I think it's important that we're talking. I couldn't agree more. Thank you again, Carrie. And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email.

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