Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:1186 Sasquatch Valley

Episode Date: September 6, 2025

Hugh writes "I have had several experiences to share with you. I've been investigating this subject quite heavily following my first experience of seeing one. I've covered a series of canyons and fore...sted mountains with trail cams and all though, I didn't have high expectations of these trail cams; they have captured some bizarre evidence. I've spent many nights alone in these mountains and I've taken a few people out on private experiences of research. I've experienced everything from rock throwing and vocalizations to exchanges of gifting and full-blown sightings. I've recovered hair and more. I've found and filmed amazing structures and tree breaks and more."

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind and it either heard me or smelt me and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up and that shocked me. They don't make people that that big. The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything moves like that in my life. They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language and they were chuntering away back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forward.
Starting point is 00:00:54 I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet that what I saw were bears. What would he report in? Jesus Christ, you're ready? Care. See you. Hello. Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about six foot nine.
Starting point is 00:01:21 I don't know. Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right at him. Uh-oh. This is Mr. Rogers from Phoenix, Arizona. And the only podcast we listen to in my neighborhood is Sasquatch Chronicles. Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Got a great show plan for you. We'll be chatting with Hugh. and Hugh comes to us from the Pacific Northwest. And he had this sighting about 14, 15 months ago in the Olympics. And it kind of started him on this whole journey of trying to find out what Sasquatch is. And he's collected a lot of evidence regarding Sasquatch, and he's got it up on his YouTube channel. I'll kind of let him go into it. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email.
Starting point is 00:02:48 My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance, check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. I'll be back tomorrow night for the members. But for tonight, let's jump into it. I want to welcome Hugh to the show. Hugh, thanks for coming on. Thanks for having me. Yeah, I appreciate you being here.
Starting point is 00:03:16 And I know all of this has happened to you over the last year, year and a half or so. If you would, let's back up to the very beginning when you actually saw their creature and walk me into this journey that you've been on. Yeah, man. It's kind of crazy story. I guess everybody's story with Sasquatch is a crazy one. but so my main research area is on both sides of the Columbia River. So I kind of jump from Oregon to Washington, but primarily Washington is my main focus.
Starting point is 00:03:52 And it's near the area known as the Columbia Bar, the graveyard of the Pacific. And so it's a really kind of weird place. There's been a lot of weird experiences in that area prior to Sasquatch. and that's just a whole other story in itself. But I wasn't, you know, like a full-blown believer in Sasquatch. I watched a lot of things. I was open-minded to it, but deep down inside I have this kind of mindset of,
Starting point is 00:04:25 oh, I'm too smart to believe in Sasquatch. It has to be misidentifications or hoaxes, you know, but kind of a part of me wanted to believe, but deep down inside, I assumed it was all BS. And that's coming from a person that was pretty open-minded. It had paranormal experiences and weird things happen. But that all changed actually one day in my neighborhood. And I don't live in the area of my research.
Starting point is 00:04:54 You know, I live outside of Vancouver, Washington, three hours away from my research area. And I was walking my dog in my neighborhood, 11 o'clock at night, because we were catching a flight at midnight. and my dog and I are up this road from my house in the dark, and there's a bunch of real high-end homes up there. They all have big yards, but not wilderness at all. It's all housing development. And I find this deer laying in the grass right here in this path
Starting point is 00:05:24 that I walk that path almost every night at this time period. And this deer had been flayed wide open, ripped open, every organ removed, gone. lungs, kidney, everything gone. The only thing on the inside of this deer was the bile sac, completely intact, not a nick, nothing. So whatever did this, did this methodically and carefully, even though this deer had been brutalized. I mean, there was no cut marks, no knives. It had been ripped wide open. The front legs had been ripped clean off. So the rib cage was exposed. All the organs were gone. I mean, it freaked me out because here's this deer laying
Starting point is 00:06:06 right in the grass, right on the side of the road, right where I walk all the time. And I have my dog with me. My dog's a three-legged pit bull. And I mean, I didn't have any weapon on me. I didn't have anything. And I'm looking at this deer thinking, whatever did this to this deer could do this to me. And I'm in a very vulnerable situation. And so I just took a couple pictures of that deer and I got out of there and a hurt.
Starting point is 00:06:31 I got home. I wanted to report it to like fishing wildlife and do what I could. but I couldn't because we had a flight out of the Portland airport at midnight. So I was taking my dog on a quick walk because we had a house sitter coming to take over for the dog and watch the house. So an hour later, I'm on a plane to Mexico.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Deer, you know, had to just be left where it was. I got home a week later, immediately went up there. The deer was gone. So this just weirded me out. We don't have cougars and bears in my neighborhood. And cougars and bears do not do that to a deer. I mean, I've been in the wild, the woods my whole life.
Starting point is 00:07:13 You know, I'm very familiar with wildlife and nature. And whatever did this to that deer, I mean, it did that with sort of an intelligence like a human has. Only whatever did that, I did it with no knife, you know, no tools, brute strength. So that really got me like thinking, like about the whole. possibility of was this a bigfoot? You know, was this a dogman? You know, was it one of these things that I don't even believe in? You know, and so that sent me to YouTube, watching videos and trying to learn whatever I could.
Starting point is 00:07:51 And, you know, you know how the algorithm works. You put in a video, you watch it, then it feed you more and feed you more. And so after a couple weeks of just inundating my mind with Bigfoot, I had a trip planned. up into the mountains to go up and hunt for agates and crystals, just kind of a hobby that I've always kind of been involved with. I'm a rock hound guy. And so that was up into my research area, this rock hunting trip. And I was up there with my son and my dad. And after hours of doing that, they were burned out. And so they left. My dad had his Tahoe and I had my truck. He took my son. So I was up there by myself for a few hours, breaking rocks and doing what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:08:37 And this is really weird because at some point, I was burned out on breaking rocks and doing that thing. I said, I want to go up and look into this valley below. And, you know, I never in a million years actually thought I would see one. It was just like a whim, you know, let's go up there and just see. And so I'm climbing this hillside. It's a pretty steep climb up into this kind of viewpoint that looks down into this valley. And I've since named this valley, Sasquatch Valley. So I get to the top and I'm looking down and I'm not even scanning the valley for maybe 10 seconds.
Starting point is 00:09:20 And I stare at something and I'm laughing in my head going, that looks like a Sasquatch right there, you know, thinking, you know, what the hell is that? shadow stump and I'm staring at this thing and it's walking it has legs it has arms and I'm just you know like I don't know I was just
Starting point is 00:09:42 kind of blown away like am I losing my freaking mind like how am I looking at a Sasquatch right now like just even telling the story it just makes me sound weird or crazy because I mean it's just impossible and in their
Starting point is 00:09:58 sure enough, I'm staring at one. And I'm watching it walk through these little trees. And it's all like Christmas tree-sized trees that have been replanted. And it's walking through them. And it even raised its arm and bounced its hand across the top of the little tree. And that was so freaking weird to me because I do that when I walk through little trees. And I'm, you know, just, I don't know, like almost in like a weird sense of denial. like just blown away jaw to the floor and I remember vividly saying to myself
Starting point is 00:10:34 you know are you effing kidding me these things are actually real you know and then at some point I'm like looking for my phone in my pockets and I had a bunch of rocks in every pocket and I because I pick up rocks and I if I can't tell they're good because they're so dirty I put them in my pocket till I can rinse them off and check them out later said rocks in every pocket I'm, you know, where's my phone? I look over my shoulder. My truck's down there. I knew my phone was in my truck.
Starting point is 00:11:01 And so I'm staring at the Saskatch, thinking about the phone. What do I do? What do I do? And I said, you know what? Nobody's ever going to believe this. So I just bombed down this cliff as fast I could. Got the phone. Scrambled back up this cliff, making an avalanche flying up this cliff as fast as I can.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Get up there and I'm looking everywhere and I can't find it. I'm out of breath. Just where's this thing at? Where's this thing at? It's gone. It's gone. It's gone. and then who I spotted.
Starting point is 00:11:27 It's still there. I get the phone out. I start recording. And as soon as I put the camera on this thing, it didn't move. It stayed in the one spot. Now, I could see movement, like what looked like an arm, kind of reach up. And I know that it was it, but it didn't walk anymore. It didn't go anywhere.
Starting point is 00:11:47 And so I'm filming it and I'm all out of breath. I have a video that's called like Mountain Top View of the Sasquots. it's on my channel and I have 18 minutes of footage of this but it's a you know camera cell phone camera doesn't have great zoom you know it's it's very unclear what it is it's just a blob you know in the bottom of the valley and I filmed it for probably an hour but clouds kept coming in blocking my shot so I'd turn off the camera and I'd wait for the clouds to drop down. And then they, you know, they'd clear up so I'd start filming again. Eventually, the clouds got so thick and I'd been sitting there for so long and I'm just like, like,
Starting point is 00:12:34 starting to kind of doubt like, what am I doing? Am I even filming anything? You know, like, it was just a really weird, weird experience. And my phone starts ringing eventually. And my wife is telling me, when are you coming off the mountain, we're going to have dinner, you need to get here. And so I had to leave. And, uh, got back to them, told them my wife and parents and kids, you know, what I saw, what happened. And the next day we went back up there and I climb up to the hill. It's a clear, nice day. And I looked down exactly where the saskatch was.
Starting point is 00:13:08 And there's a stump there, which I couldn't see the stump in the original viewing because the body of the creature was completely blocking out this stump. And that's when I was thinking about it. I said, wow, is that, is that what it was doing? Was, you know, digging in that stump, trying to tear that old stump apart the whole time? And since that day, I've documented countless stumps and logs that are old and punky that have just been poor apart all throughout that area. And so I strongly believe that's what it was doing.
Starting point is 00:13:42 But it was just so bizarre, you know, as soon as I get this thing and try to record it, it, you know, didn't walk anymore. It's like as if it knew that I was filming it or something. And that happened. That was the day before Father's Day, 2024. So everything that's gone on with me and this topic has happened in the last 14, 15-ish month. And pretty amazing just how much stuff I've found and how many experiences I've had. In just a short period of time in 14 months.
Starting point is 00:14:23 When I look at a lot of other researchers, you know what they did over decades and decades. And it's, I guess I've just been incredibly lucky. Yeah, I would love to see the video that you took. What's the name of your YouTube channel? My channel is Northwest NW. Yeti Quest. Northwest Yeti Quest. I'll have to check that out. For the audience, if you want to check out Hughes videos.
Starting point is 00:14:50 again, it's Northwest Yeti Quest. How far away from you was this creature? And if you would, would you describe what you saw? Yeah, it's a good distance away. You know, when you're up on an elevation, up that high, and you're looking down, it's really hard to know how far away you are exactly. But I know that I have this spotlight that'll put a beam across. like a quarter mile of lake or river.
Starting point is 00:15:23 And when I put that beam down into parts of this valley, it seems like it's further than that. So I don't know. It's far. You know, I'm blessed with really good eyesight, but it was too far for my camera to zoom in and get it. I mean, I don't know the exact distance, but you're probably, you know, a couple hundred yards.
Starting point is 00:15:46 I really don't know. You're looking down there, though. It's a ways away. I gotcha. So while you were looking at this figure, what made you think it wasn't a man? Well, it was all just dark one color, right? And it's, I didn't quite know at the time just how hard it is to get into that valley. I've since become very familiarized with how hard it is to get into that valley.
Starting point is 00:16:13 And in fact, I've never even stood in that valley. at every attempt to get into that valley, I've been derailed one way or another or found something else and got, you know, off on a tangent. I've never actually made it to that stump and stood there. It's that hard to get there. This area is just a bunch of canyons in logging wilderness and, you know, rivers coming through and it's all these logging roads are gated off or dug up or removed. and I've made many attempts to get there, but it just seems like every attempt gets thwarted or, you know, I mean, like, for example, I was trying to get there one day,
Starting point is 00:16:56 got ran over by a logger and ended up leaving that area in an ambulance, you know, and I have a video actually about that with my knee wide open. It's, yeah, it's crazy. Sweet Jesus, Hugh, you got ran over by a logger? Yeah, on accident. I mean, he came around. around a corner in a work truck. I was on an e-bike and he was just doing 100 miles an hour and I don't know what he was doing. He was doing probably 60 on a gravel road and he couldn't stop in
Starting point is 00:17:27 time, ran me over. And on that particular day, the destination was that valley. I was trying to get to that valley and weird things have happened. Every attempt to get to that valley, I haven't made it. And he had to haul me out of there and take me to a fire station. And then the end. ambulance came and got me and was pretty mangled up for a while from that. Couldn't walk for about a month and took me out of the game. Yeah, sold out a little bit in life. I wanted to, when you stare down into this valley, you're looking down, and it's in the area where the Sasquatch was, is all small Christmas tree size replanted trees. And there's some gravel roads sneaking through there and stuff like that and I've never been able to find any connection to these gravel roads.
Starting point is 00:18:18 But the reason why I just, I knew it wasn't a man was just by the solid one color of it, this black, maybe really dark brown. And it just never for a second did I ever even think it was a man. It was just like as soon as I saw this thing walking and its arms swaying, it was just, I knew, I knew what it was. There was no question in my mind. I mean, I questioned my sanity a little bit, but I wasn't questioning what I was seeing. You know, it was just, I don't know, it was too apparent, too obvious.
Starting point is 00:18:58 And then everything that's followed since just has solidified my belief so much. I definitely want to hear the progression of what's happened to you and you going out there. But going back to that deer for a moment, what made you think that Sasquatch did it? Well, I didn't necessarily go, I know it was done by a Bigfoot, but I had to consider that because I know it wasn't done by a predator. I mean, I live in Camas. It's all housing developments, but we're on the edge of the Columbia River Gorge. So there is wilderness nearby, but my, I mean, it's full-blown housing development. I've never seen a cougar or a bear in anywhere up here.
Starting point is 00:19:46 I have seen a couple coyotes, but coyotes can't take down deer. They'll kill and eat like a deer that's dying or sick. But whatever did this to this deer was incredibly powerful. I mean, the front legs were gone, clean ripped off, every organ removed. I have pictures of this deer. I've just, I've never put these pictures on my channel. I've always planned on making a video and putting the deer into the, the video. I just haven't done that yet. But it was just such a weird, eerie moment that it just
Starting point is 00:20:20 made me have to consider possibilities of what could have done this, you know, and Sasquatch was just something that came to mind, you know, what would have done this? What hunts like we do? What cleans all the organs and lungs and everything out of their kill in this way? And does it with such precision to not nick or rupture the bile sac. You know, I mean, skilled hunters. hunters have a hard time cleaning a deer without nicking or rupturing the vial sack. And whatever did this was careful and methodical enough to not do that. Because if you break open that vial sack, you can ruin all the meat. It creep me out.
Starting point is 00:20:57 And I quit going up there ever since that. That used to be a normal path that I walked. And I'd walk it at night a lot. I just, I barely ever go up there now because of it. and I do it's not that I'm afraid it's the time it did freak me out but I'm no longer that freaked out about it
Starting point is 00:21:17 just I don't know it just creep me out and I quit going up there but I do strongly suspect that that deer was a gift and if it wasn't for that deer I would have never gotten into this whole thing I'll get into that maybe later
Starting point is 00:21:34 because I have some really weird coincidences that have forced me to believe this to suspect this. Yeah, we'll definitely come back to that. So I'm assuming this area where you had your siding is your research area. Tell me how this has progressed. What are some of the things that have happened to you since you've gone back? Yeah. So after the siding, I had this video and I couldn't believe that I became one of
Starting point is 00:22:07 people that had a siding and has this, you know, really poor footage to, you know, back it up. I was just like, I became the very person I've been rolling my eyes to that for decades, you know. And so that lit of fire under me to just, okay, I'm going to get out there and I'm going to prove. And that's what I did. And I became obsessed with getting out there and looking for research. And one of my first things I found up there was this amazing extructure. And I recognize what it was right away from seeing Bigfoot videos and other people's work. And it's one of the best extructures I've ever seen, and not just personally, compared to what other awesome X structure. And I have pictures of it.
Starting point is 00:22:52 It's in some of my videos. And, you know, but it's an X structure. You can blame that on Mother Nature or whatever, if you want. But it was just something that kind of like, okay, I think I might be on to something. And so I started exploring a lot of these canyons that connect to Sasquatch Valley. And I'm in the canyon and I'm deep in this area where there's just no people. You never find garbage. You never see people up there.
Starting point is 00:23:21 And I take this weird game trail off of the creek and I find this footprint. And it was just a phenomenal footprint. You could see the big toe and the second toe, and it was turned sideways on this really steep trail, you know, just like a person would. And this, I have a video of this footprint. It's actually one of the first videos that I ever put on. And so that really got me going like, okay, there's something going on in here, you know. And that day, I'm in this canyon and something I realize is paralleling me in the other side of the canyon. I can't see it.
Starting point is 00:23:59 But I'm hearing these cracks and these pops and then it starts blowing these whistles at me. And they were very loud whistles. And, you know, I guess you could say possibly they were birds, but they just seemed a lot louder than a bird. And it seemed like they were being directed at me. And then later on, whatever it was got away from me and it was blowing the whistle down the canyon, almost like it was alerting. alerting other people. And that same day, I found my first sort of teepee structure-like structure out there that was really kind of bizarre.
Starting point is 00:24:40 All these trees, these evergreen trees were pushed together in this really weird way. They weren't uprooted. They were still in the ground. But all of them were pushed into each other to create this really weird peepy thing. And that's when I really started paying. attention to the trees and I just immediately started finding this bizarre anomaly that exists out there that I can't find in any other forest and I just recently drove through Yellowstone, Wyoming, Colorado, I've done explorations into Oregon and I've been
Starting point is 00:25:17 all over trying to find anything that resembles this and there is hundreds, maybe thousands of healthy green, evergreen type trees, timber, trees that have been topped. And I mean, I can't even begin to count them. And I do tree work for a living. Green, healthy evergreens rarely lose their top. I mean, I can look out the window of my home right now and see thousands of trees. And not a single one is missing their top.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Yet in my research area, you can't take 10 steps without finding a top tree. And that was so bizarre. Like, why are all these trees missing their tops? I've never seen anything like it. And obviously I don't, I can't prove that it's Sasquatch going up there and topping these trees. But I strongly suspect it. I don't know why exactly. But another thing that I'm finding in my research areas, I really am, I believe strongly that Sasquatch spends a lot more time in the trees than I've noticed any other research or touch on, at least the ones in my research area.
Starting point is 00:26:25 I think they spent a lot of time up in the trees because the structures I'm finding on top of these top trees. I'm finding these arches, these insane arches. And I have a couple videos that touch on these arches, but I have like a Sasquatch tree structure video that really gets into these arches. The way that they're bent is in this way where they bend a tree. and I'm talking big, big trees, you know, it's like bigger around than my head, like big, full-grown 100-foot timber trees, and they bend them and they hook them against the neighboring tree. And you'll see all these scrapes and scars where the tree was hooked up high.
Starting point is 00:27:08 And then I think they have to leave, come back and they bend it a little more, hook it and scrape it and wedge it into a different spot. There's some of these arches that weren't fully arched. And then three, four, five months later, I come to check on them, and they're all the way arched. And so I know that they're doing it gradually. And I have found some that seem to have exploded, that were being bent and just blew up, and there's pieces of the tree everywhere. And even in that same video, I have one that seems to have recently blown up because the other parts and pieces to the tree are still up in the branches,
Starting point is 00:27:44 and they hadn't fallen down yet, where one good windstorm comes through and all those pieces are going to be on the ground. And so these, these arches became very fascinating to me. And I have found countless of these arches now. And originally, like I said, I went out there as a rock hound. And as I started pursuing Sasquatch, I didn't care about rocks anymore. But everywhere I went into these canyon bottoms, nobody ever gets into these canyons are so hard to get into. I started finding deposits of amazing agates that I never even dreamed I would ever find. I, I hiked out an 80-pound agate. There's multiple, multi-hundred-pound agates just laying in these canyons. So because of this, I contacted a geologist friend of mine and just telling him about these agates and telling him about
Starting point is 00:28:36 the Sasquatch research I was doing. And so he wanted to come out there with me. And so I brought him out on a trip. And immediately, as I'm driving through about 7 a.m. to get to, this area to hike down to one of these canyon bottoms, I saw a new arch. And so I pull over, I said, hey, man, I got to go look at this arch. This wasn't here last time I was here. And if it was, I didn't notice it. So it seemed brand new to me. And so we're over there, and I'm looking at this arch, and I'm blown away by this arch. And the geologist comes down. He's looking at the arch and scratching his head at all these just bizarre an arch. And he says, hey, look at this. and he picks up this big pine cone.
Starting point is 00:29:17 And I'm like, kind of looking at it. Like, yeah, it's a weird pine cone, but I'm like, why do you give a shit about a pine cone? And he's like, no, you don't understand. This is a pine cone. Originally, he said it was a certain species of tree. He got the species wrong, but he was right that it's a high elevation species of tree that does not and will not grow in that region. And it was placed there underneath this arch. and he's like telling me like this had to have been brought here.
Starting point is 00:29:48 And this is a scientist, you know, he's a smart guy. And so that was weird. We bagged it and took it with us. And we did our little mission. And then it was a month or two later. I was up there with my son and my buddy. And we're camping. And my son and I went out looking at arches.
Starting point is 00:30:08 And it was just the two of us. And I'm looking at arch and I'm video in it. and as I'm filming, my son goes, hey, dad, what's this? And I look over, and there's another one of those pine cones. And this time, I didn't get to see the first pine cone. Brent, the geologist, he had it in his hand when I first saw it. But at least on this one, my son pointed to the ground. It had been intentionally stuck in the mud, intentionally stabbed there, right underneath the arch.
Starting point is 00:30:38 And I'm just like, what, dude? I got so excited about this pine cone, and it's all on a video on my channel, too. And I bagged that and took that pine cone out. And so I have both of these pine cones. And these pine cones will or would or should or could yield touch DNA if I could ever get them tested. I've talked to some people about it, and it's just not looking like it's going to happen at this point in time. But these pine cones could prove so much. They could prove that these beings are transitory or migratory.
Starting point is 00:31:14 You know, the right scientific study could probably figure out exactly what region this pine cone originated from. It's a subalpine tree. There is no subalpine in that area. I've looked into it, and the nearest subalpine tree from my research area would be somewhere up by Mount Hood or Mount Rainier, which is a long ways away from the Columbia Bar. And yet there they were. You know, just really, really bizarre. And so on that same trip with my son and my buddy,
Starting point is 00:31:51 later that night, we were back in the campsite. And I had set an alarm to wake me up at 4 a.m. I was going to go out by myself with my night vision camera and just trip around in the forest, I guess. So my phone starts vibrating as my alarm. clock wakes me up. I had it under my pillow. I turn it off and I sit up and I realize, immediately realize there's something standing over my tent right now because I had all these weird flashy light set up in my campsite. I was trying to create this weird rave-like atmosphere
Starting point is 00:32:29 in this is a campsite that's deep, deep in the woods. Nobody had camped there in decades because I had to use chainsaws and equipment to clear out this old abandoned road to even make this campsite. And so any creature in the night would have been used to pass them through that area and not bumping into anybody. And so I set up all these lights and all this weird stuff just to create something that would pique the curiosity of a saskwatch or something. And it's because my son was there and just kind of make the campsite funner. But there I am sitting in my camp in my tent and there is something huge standing to right. over my tank and it's rocking just gently back and forth and I'm just like oh no like what is going on inside so I pick up my camera and I don't really know what my plan was because I still had to unzip a tent
Starting point is 00:33:20 climb out there so I didn't have much of a plan but I turned my camera on and he goes be me me makes this little sound and this shadow just goes gone doesn't make a sound is just instantly just flash gone as soon as my camera made that no and it was really crazy because my dog was in the tent with me. My dog didn't wake up, like the smell of the thing. I didn't smell anything, but it's just always been odd to me that, you know, that, whatever that was, was able to get that close to us and not alert my dog, but, you know, my dog's not some trained watchdog or anything.
Starting point is 00:33:57 But so I sat there in the tent for a while, kind of debating, going out there and looking around, but my son was there, you know, seven-year-old. And I was like, maybe I shouldn't leave him in his tent by himself. And so eventually I fell back to sleep, got up around seven. And as I get up, my buddy's sleeping in his car about 30 yards away from my tank. And he gets out of his car and he's like, man, what were you doing last night? Like, what are you talking about? He's like, why were you looking in the windows and all over, all around my car?
Starting point is 00:34:31 I wasn't. I didn't come out of the tent last night. And he's looking at me, like, doubtful. I'm like, I promise you, man. I did not come out of the tent last night. And that's when I told him about the shadow. And so obviously whatever was above my tent, was right by my tent, was the same thing that was all around his car looking in the windows. And it's funny because I had game cameras set up around that campsite.
Starting point is 00:35:01 And that night, they weren't tied to anything. They were just a couple game cameras I would set them here and set them there. That night, for some reason, I forgot to set them up before I went to bed. And it's just crazy, you know, that that, it's almost like they just knew. They knew the cameras weren't up or something. I don't know. It's a little creepy that it came into your camp and was kind of standing over your tent and your buddy was in his car and it was looking in the windows of the car.
Starting point is 00:35:30 at this point, did it concern you at all? No. I mean, I was concerned enough to not go out and leave my son alone in the tent. But I wasn't like panic, scared. I don't know. I would think if anything, it just kind of put more fuel in the furnace to keep going, really. You know, I mean, I'm always on alert out there. I'm always a little nervous out there.
Starting point is 00:35:59 I mean, I carry a firearm. You know, I carry bear mace, and I do what I can to protect myself. But I've always been pretty reckless and, you know, brave or whatever you want to call it, you know. And so I don't know. I wasn't really afraid. I did have a vocalization experience that did kind of scare me in a brief moment. That happened actually before this now that I think about it. I was climbing into one of these canyons.
Starting point is 00:36:32 It's a canyon, I called Dead Canyon. I just made a video about Dead Canyon, but that's another experience, and hopefully we can get into that too. But I climbed down into this canyon. This is way, way far, kind of on the outer edge of my research area, and I'm down there with just my dog.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Because in the beginning, I spent a lot of nights up there alone, just my dog and I had a lot of hiking and tromp and totally alone. And I brought my dog with me about 50% of the time because she has three legs. It's really hard on her sometimes. So a lot of times I don't even have my dog with me. And this particular day, I had the dog, and we're down in the canyon.
Starting point is 00:37:10 We spent a few hours snooping around in this beautiful canyon, and it's a very hardcore hike in and out of this canyon. And as I'm climbing out of that canyon, this sound just comes bellowing out of the bottom of that canyon up through the trees and hits me. And it's not like any sound that anybody has ever recorded, because I've tried to find anything that reminds me of it. Nobody's ever captured the sound that I've heard. And I did have a guy described a Sasquatch sound
Starting point is 00:37:47 that remind him of a giant diesel engine failing to fire. And, you know, it's not quite the perfect example, but it's close enough that I was like, yeah, dude, I think I know exactly what sound you're talking about because it's this sound. And I've heard this sound again since then. But it's just so loud that it sounds like machinery. But I know it wasn't machinery because it came right out of that canyon where I was just at. And it's not a warm and fuzzy sound.
Starting point is 00:38:20 It's kind of like a warning is almost what it sounds like. it's it's like this jackhammer type but it just comes I don't even want to try to emulate it. I can't even begin to but that moment did frighten me a little bit and I got out of there in my dog too. My dog, when that sound hit us,
Starting point is 00:38:46 I looked at my dog, my dog looked at me and my dog likes to pretend she's tough and in that moment her ears went back and she curled up and she looked at me like, you know, protect me. It was quite the sound. And I've heard that sound. That was the first time I'd heard it. And that same sound was blasted into my tent one morning many months later after this.
Starting point is 00:39:12 And when I, that morning, when I heard it the next time, I had been up all night in my hunting blind with my night vision and everything. and I drank so much coffee all night long, but by sunrise, I felt nauseous. Like, I felt like I was going to throw up. I don't know. I just didn't feel right. It felt horrible. And so I went to bed about 6.30 in the morning, and it was about 9.30-ish, where this sound blast into my camp, wakes me up.
Starting point is 00:39:47 And I'm, like, delirious. Like, I hear this sound. And I'm thinking, like, oh, wow, that must be horrible. like logging equipment. And I, and I lay back down and I start falling asleep. And then I hear it again, bram,
Starting point is 00:40:00 blah, and blasting to me. And I'm just like, what is going on? Why are they logging? So close to camp, you know, and then I'm laying there,
Starting point is 00:40:10 and I'm starting to fall in a lot of sleep again, and I'm not all the way in my right mind. And then that sound hits my third time, and I immediately realized, that's the sound from the canyon. So I jump up out of the, tent, I'm looking around and looking around, you know, heart's pounding and, and there's no logging going on within earshot of my campsite. You know, there's nothing. It's just dead silent outside of my
Starting point is 00:40:33 camp. And I'm just looking around, looking around, and that's when I realized that this big, giant red apple that I had set up right in front of a game camera, this apple was about four, maybe five feet from my tank. And the game camera was aimed directly at this apple. It's gone. And I knew that apple was there because I just gone to sleep three and a half hours prior and looked right at it as I got in the tent. The apple's gone. The game camera's aimed at it. So I run and find my little chip reader and I go up there and pull the chip out of the game
Starting point is 00:41:06 camera and put it in. I'm clicking through, clicking through. There's the apple. There's the apple. There's the apple. Apple's gone. No picture. No explanation.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Apple's just gone. And it happened just feet from me. And that was really crazy because I had seen that Les Stroud video he did where he had something similar like that happened. Apples disappeared in front of the game camera. And, you know, I trust Les Stroud. I don't think he's a liar. But, I mean, I also had to take into consideration how easy it would be to create that scene, you know, and claim that. And then so sure enough, there it was happened to me playing his.
Starting point is 00:41:50 day and I had put fruit in front of a lot of trail camps that had just seemingly vanished with no picture, no explanation. But for this to have happened that close to me while I was in my tent, you know, it was just, it was pretty amazing. I wasn't necessarily scared, but definitely I was on alert. You know, that sound, like I said, it doesn't sound incredibly welcoming, but I don't know what that sound is. I don't know what that sound means. Yeah, that's very strange. I think Todd Standing was the very first one to talk about the apples disappearing,
Starting point is 00:42:30 and he would have these videos of it being in one frame and then it's gone. And I remember thinking, well, you know, I mean, that would be something easy to fake. But why would you make something so easy to fake? and I think where you're referring to is when Les Stroud went up there and I talked to Lesz and he said no those those apples did vanish well what's your explanation for that? There is no explanation other than fast squads you know I mean I exactly the game camera should have picked it up and interestingly I put a new one in place
Starting point is 00:43:07 a new apple down and went out on a journey into the woods has gone all day. And it's funny because I was making a video about this crow that was following me around. And I was talking about, you know, oh, the crow, that's Sasquatch's buddy. Because I do believe that the crows alert the Sasquatch because they follow me around and they bark at me like a dog whenever they see me trying to sneak through the trees. And so I'm talking about this crow and I'm filming him. And then I go back to the camp and the apple's gone. The second apple's gone.
Starting point is 00:43:40 And I put in the chip and I check it out. and it's a crow. Crow came in and took the second apple. And, you know, it got picked up, clear his day on the camera. You know, so that proved to me, you know, that a bird can't come in and take the apple, you know, without it activating. I mean, those game cameras are really, really sensitive. So it's just, just bizarre.
Starting point is 00:44:02 I mean, it's amazing. It's inconceivable that something could do that. But yet here they are doing it, you know. Yeah, that is weird with the Apple. and I'm not so sure that Sasquatch and crows are in cahoots. I spent most of my life, even into my adult life, hunting. And I can tell you about two different hunting seasons where, for some reason, this one Dick Crow would follow me around
Starting point is 00:44:30 and alert everything in the area that I was there. I mean, it crossed my mind to shoot it, but I'm not going to eat it. And I'm not a monster. or I'm not going to shoot something just because I'm pissed, but it did cross my mind. No, absolutely. It's just something I've kind of pondered and wondered, because crows are supposed to have a really high intelligence,
Starting point is 00:44:54 you know, and I figured if something lives in this forest and they're that in tuned with all the creatures in the forest, it's not impossible that they would have some kind of relationship or friendship or communication or camaraderie, you know. And I just have often wondered if there is some kind of, you know, companionship between them and crows and even them and other animals. You know, we're just so far removed from nature that, you know, it's, we've lost touch on everything about the massive interconnectivity of nature and creatures and all those things, you know. Yeah, a crow is as smart as a seven-year-old child and they'll remember people's face. If you ever mean to a crow, they will remember that.
Starting point is 00:45:45 They're a little vindictive too. Man, I hate that crow so much that messed up my hunting. Going back to that vocalization, that cluck, click, click, cluck sound that you were making, could it have been that chatter, that samurai chatter that people talk about? Could that have been what you were hearing? You know, it's so loud. That's the thing. Like it comes at you with so much force and so much noise that it's not, I mean, it could be a variation of their chatter.
Starting point is 00:46:23 I just think it's a sound that either this particular one or this particular clan does or makes it just nobody's ever recorded. I so need to get into learning how to operate recording equipment and try to get this sound recorded. It's kind of like the sound of Woodpecker makes when it's drilling away on a tree, but just so much louder and not as fast probably. It's, and that's just, it's so hard to describe, you know, it's kind of like a jackhammer, you know, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, but with the, different rhythm. And it's, I don't know, it's so, it's such a weird sound. And it, the, the, the volume of which it hits you with is what makes it just, I mean, insane. You know, like I said,
Starting point is 00:47:17 it woke me up and I'm like, what the hell, man? That sounds like machinery, you know, and start dripping back to sleep, and I hear it again, and I'm just like, damn loggers. And then my brain starts working. And I'm just like, holy, that's not a logger. And, you know, it just, as soon as I got out of the tent, I didn't hear it again. And I don't know if it was coming from one of them standing right outside my tent because I'm a really light sleeper. And what I do in the woods is I'll put in one ear plug. And then I put my ear into the pillow.
Starting point is 00:47:53 And then because I get woke up so easily that's how I do it. That way at least I have one good ear to alert me. And I can kind of drown out certain noises. And so it's possible that I have the earplug exposed when it first woke me up. I don't really know. But I know that's how I was sleeping with one ear plug in and one ear in the pillow. Because in that 6.30 in the morning hour, the birds are so noisy that I had to do something to get myself to sleep. Yeah, I've heard many eyewitnesses describe like mechanical sounds that they're hearing out in the forest.
Starting point is 00:48:29 I don't know that I've heard that specific vocal that you're. talking about. But there's been many things that I've never heard before. And usually after a show, there's always a listener out there that goes, oh yeah, I've heard that before. I know exactly what he's talking about. I want to ask you about the hair that you collected. Before we get into that, in this area, have you ever seen the lights? I'm so glad you asked that because I have captured it on a game camera and I've not found anybody
Starting point is 00:49:03 in my opinion that have captured this phenomenon on camera that I've found. I've had people message me and tell me people have and I've just not found anybody that's captured, you know, what I consider to be an actual Sasquatch orb
Starting point is 00:49:19 light thing. And what's crazy about this capture is I captured this in broad daylight on a sunny bright day and it is a white blob that moves through three different shots. And my game camera captures it, one, two, three. And it's not circular, but if this would have been nighttime, it would have been a big, bright ball of light.
Starting point is 00:49:46 But, you know, if you take a really bright lantern, turn it up to full blast and take it out on a sunny day, you can't even tell that it's on. You know, its light is completely lost amongst the sunlight. So the fact that whatever this thing my game camera captured, it's picking it up in daylight and in the sun, I mean, that means this thing was emitting a good bit of light. It was very visible.
Starting point is 00:50:14 And I have a YouTube short with that game camera capture, and it's in a full-length video I have too. and I was going to get to that, but you asked. And so I've never seen it with my own eyes, but I have captured several bizarre light anomalies on game cameras now. Because I have, right now, I think I have 17 trail cameras across my two different research sites. And I'm horrible at remembering things. I'm the most unorganized, most forgetful person on earth.
Starting point is 00:50:51 And I probably have trail cams out there that I've completely lost track of. But I have somewhere around 17 set up currently. You mentioned several light anomalies. Are you just capturing the balls of light? In this game trail cam capture, it's more almost like a beam of light. It's like a rectangle shape going up and down on a tree. because you can see it right in front of a tree and it's like long,
Starting point is 00:51:25 sort of skinny rectangle shape. And then you've got to click through the pictures and if you go one, two, three, one, two, three through the pictures, you can actually see that it is traveling through the trees. And, you know, I don't know what the hell it is. It's just, it's there. It activated the camera.
Starting point is 00:51:42 And that camera is set up directly beneath these two arches that I'd been monitoring. Because when I first found this double arch, it was a full-blown arch. And then there was what looked like the beginnings of an arch. And sure enough, over time, I watched that arch get created. And that's the arch that proved to me, okay, they do make these things gradually. Because I know for a fact, it wasn't bent like that when I first found it. And so I put two trail cams underneath these double arches.
Starting point is 00:52:12 And on that same exact trail cam that captured the weird light, thing in the middle of the daytime, it also captured these really weird beams of light, flickering all through the trees in this really weird way. I don't know what they are. I mean, people have tried to tell me weird suggestions of what they think it is. But another trail cam, actually, a couple miles away, is captured a similar anomaly of beams of light. But this same trail cam underneath the arches also captured.
Starting point is 00:52:48 what looks to be like a translucent, bipedal, humanoid-looking thing that stands there and you get three shots where you can see this almost transparent like figure standing there, moving just slightly, and then it's gone, and then there's this blurry mass that it disappears into,
Starting point is 00:53:13 and movement within that blurry mass gets three more pictures taking. And, you know, so that game camera has been really, really cool. I mean, it's captured some really bizarre stuff, and it's directly beneath that, that double arch. So it leads me to believe that these arches are more than just, I used to think that they were just something that they used to get up in the canopy. But I think there's more to them than that, because also underneath the arches, I recovered
Starting point is 00:53:45 those pine cones, which those pine cones, you know, I suspect it could be gifts left for me intentionally. I don't know for sure, but I also suspect that the hair, we haven't got into the hair yet, was also another gift left intentionally. And the deer, the deer carcass by my house, I suspect may have been something left intentionally. And strangely, have you ever heard of the shofar horn that people claim has some ability to summon Sasquads? You ever heard anything about that? No, I can't say that I have. No.
Starting point is 00:54:33 So I had never had either. And I had gotten touch with the people that run the channel called a Flash of beauty. And I was supposed to meet with them. And so I just turned on one of their videos the night before I was going to meet him and watch this interview. And I'm watching this interview and I'm in through this interview about halfway through. And this guy, they're doing the interview with, picks up the show for a horn and talks about all the research he's done on this thing and that it's, it's in the Bible and it's in all these ancient books and that it's, it's some horn that's supposed to summon Sasquot.
Starting point is 00:55:12 And I'm just in awe because I have one of those horns. I'd had it for years. I grew up playing the trumpet so I can blow it really well. And I had blown that thing around my house a hundred times over the years. And it just was so crazy like seeing this guy holding this horn, claiming that it's some magical tool that summoned Sasquatch as crazy as that sounds. because it all started at my house and that's the only place I've ever blown the show far horn and it just there's so many weird coincidences that have all kind of
Starting point is 00:55:50 transpired out of this whole Sasquatch research stuff that it's I don't know and I don't even ever bring up that horn because it just sounds so crazy but yeah it didn't click when you very first said it but you're talking about a Rams horn and you know I I would be careful of buying into too much of what some of these researchers say. I mean, how does this not prove that this is some magical horn that brings in Sasquatch? I mean, what evidence does he provide for that? Yeah, well, he gets all into that in the interview. Coonbo, I forget his real name.
Starting point is 00:56:31 He talked about a vast amount of research that him and his colleagues did on the shofar and uh you know they had to translate from you know ancient aramaic and arabic and all these things and they they concluded that the translation was talking about this particular horn it's it's kind of a rare horn comes from a some kind of African goat and the horns have to grow a certain way to be considered a true shofar and i would never believe this stuff like if somebody was telling me about a horn that can summon Sasquatch. You know, I would roll my eyes and just walk away. It just, but I just, there he was holding a sofa and talking about their magical powers.
Starting point is 00:57:19 And I'm like, I have one of those. It's in my house. My buddy gave it to me years ago because I picked it up and I could make it work. And he had it in some yard sale and I could blow it because I, you know, how to play a trumpet. And so he's like, just take it as yours. I've had it for years. And I don't know. If there's any truth to it, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:39 But it just makes me wonder because everything started in my neighborhood, at my house, in a way, with the dead deer. And, you know, anything's possible. I don't know. You'd have to go back and watch his interview. He gets very in-depth with the shofar. I didn't even know that things called the shofar. I just knew it was a horn, you know, a goat horn, and you can blow it and make sounds. Yeah, I'll have to go back and watch the flash of beauty.
Starting point is 00:58:12 It was a great documentary. Some of the people in it, though, are a little bit out there for me. You know, I'm pretty open to a lot of things. But sometimes I'm like, I don't know about that. Tell me about the hair that you collected. I was on a trip. This was after I'd been ran over. And I hadn't been up in my research area for a couple months.
Starting point is 00:58:33 And it was Father's Day weekend coming up. And I'd already told my wife that Father's Day weekend I was spending in my research area because that was going to be one year to the day of when I had that first sighting. So I just had to be up there because I was looking at it in the manner of which if they do migrate through that area, they were there at that time last year. So they're going to be there for sure this year, this time. I do think they're there year round. It's never snows. It's a very moderate climate there. So anyway, Father's Day weekend, my wife says, well, if you're going up there, you're bringing all of us because the Father's Day, we're all together.
Starting point is 00:59:12 And so my wife, my son, my daughter all came up there camping with me. And we were just driving research area. And I'm filming and looking out the window and talking about different things. But I'm always looking out the window. I'm not looking really straight ahead. I'm drive real slow. and I'm always staring off into the trees. So I don't even know how many times I drove right over this ball of hair in the road.
Starting point is 00:59:40 But at this moment, I look in front and I see something in the road. And I stop and hit the brakes. I'm like, honey, what is that? She's looking at me like, I know what I know what I know what that is. And I was just like, okay, I got to go see what this is. And get out, go to the front of my truck. And it is this, at first I thought it was like a wig laying in the road. And then it was just a huge ball of hair.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Like, huge ball of hair. If I can prove that this is Sasquatch hair, I've not seen anybody with an amount of hair of this much. Like, it's damn near like a whole head of hair. Like, like, as if a Sasquatch got in a fight and one just ripped its hair right out of its head and dropped it on the ground. And it's long, though. It's very long. And some of the strands are like 20 inches long. And it's all these different colors.
Starting point is 01:00:35 There's most of it is this really transparent gray, but it has a black and a brown and then a not so transparent gray. So there's kind of four different colors in it. But I have individual like locks, dreadlocks looking things, and they have all of those different colors mixed in each lock. So I strongly, strongly believe that it all came from once. source. I did have somebody look at it with a microscope, and he did admit to me he'd never actually handled Sasquatch hair. I was led to believe that he was very knowledgeable on all that,
Starting point is 01:01:17 but he admitted to me he's never seen Sasquatch hair. But he told me that he thinks it's four different horses mixed together. And I have issues with that because, like I said, I have these dreadlocks that obviously all originated from one source and all four different colors and types are within each dreadlock. And I've been communicating with a professor from NCSU Darby, and he's going to be getting a bunch of samples sent soon. I actually have it all ready to go. I just need to get it in the mail to him.
Starting point is 01:01:53 And I plan on pursuing as much as I can to try to get definitive testing on it. But it's a lot of hair. It's, it's big. There's a video all about it. And there's a short that has it too on my channel. And, you know, if I can prove that it's from an unknown species or whatever I can prove with it, it's, like I said, it has to be the biggest deposit of Sasquatch hair ever found. Just out of my own curiosity, what makes you think it's Sasquatch hair? Well, because it came right out of the heart of my research area.
Starting point is 01:02:29 in an area that I call tree break alley. I've always just named it that because it's just literally inundated with tree break evidence everywhere. And not far from where the pine cones were found. Pine cones are actually in tree break alley as well. And I've never seen a horse up there, never once. And in all the times I've been up in my research area, nobody's ever had a horse up there. I've never seen horse dung up there. getting a trailer with horses up in there would be, I mean, not impossible, but it'd just be
Starting point is 01:03:05 miserable for the horses, bouncy, rocky, nasty robs, and it just doesn't make any sense, you know, even if I were to entertain that it came from a horse, why would a giant, I mean, somebody brought their horse up in the mountains and then just ripped its tail hair out and threw it in the road, it doesn't make sense. It's, and I've put my hair next to it. I've put my wife's hair next to it. I have very thick, voluminous hair. My wife's hair is very thick and wiry.
Starting point is 01:03:39 When I put human hair next to this hair, this hair is about four times the thickness. It's very thick hair. And it's definitely not human. And, I mean, I shouldn't say, I know for a fact it's not human, but it's just so much bigger than any human hair. And there are roots.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Some of them do have roots on them. And so I do think it came out violently, especially by the amount that was there. It's just a lot of hair. And, you know, like, yeah, I can't, I didn't watch it get ripped out of a Sasquatch or anything, but it just, there's just so much evidence up there of Sasquatch. You know, like the upside down trees, we didn't even get into that.
Starting point is 01:04:27 You know, I found a huge side of upside down trees up there. It was one of the first big discoveries I ever had. And I was walking. I had to ride my bike about seven or eight miles behind all these lock gates. And then I had to abandon my bike and then walk up this river for a couple hours. And that was the closest I've ever been to Sasquatch Valley, closest I've ever been to where I actually saw the Sasquatch. But in order to get to where that Sasquatch is out, I have to climb this crazy cliff. So I still need to figure out a way into that
Starting point is 01:05:03 valley. But anyway, I'm walking up this creek and I look to my left and I see a giant rootball from a log up in the air. And this, like I said, I should have told you this story more towards beginning because this was one of one of my first big discoveries and as soon as I saw this thing I knew exactly what it was and I never imagined I would find videos about them but I just didn't have high expectations of it you know and and sure enough there was an upside down tree and I climb up and get into this little valley and there's originally I think I found I don't know maybe a dozen of them. But then months later, a beaver came through there and chewed down a bunch of trees and started building a little dam and opened up this wall of foliage. And so I found another,
Starting point is 01:05:58 I mean, there's almost 20 of these. And they're not all upside down trees. A lot of them are just like random logs just stuck in the earth like lawn darts. Some of them are, there's some that are no higher than my knee, just stabbed into the ground. And there's all different shapes and sizes. Some of them are a lot older than other ones. And a lot of people tried telling me, oh, loggers do that. You know, loggers do that. So I got a hold of a guy.
Starting point is 01:06:27 He's a family friend. And he does install logs in the ground in a weird way. And they're called snags. And they do have to do that in certain situations when they're doing like habitat maintenance and stuff like that. So I send him my videos of my upside down tree. and he was like, yeah, I've never seen anybody install snacks that look anything like that. He's like, there's no way those are snacks. Yeah, I'm going to have to have you back on, Hugh, because I know it's hard to cram 14 months of
Starting point is 01:07:02 different things that have happened to you in an hour-long show. So we'll definitely have to do a part two. I want to go back to the arches for a moment because the arches have always confused me. because I don't really see any great use for them or why they would do them or even if they are doing them. But these arches that people find out in the woods and I know you're finding them out there in the Olympics,
Starting point is 01:07:29 you'd mention the weird cone that you found at the bottom of the arch. And then your trail cam had picked up these, I don't know what else to call them, entities, kind of were almost like their see-through, which I've heard before, like the predator, what's your theory on the arches? Man, that's, it's changed.
Starting point is 01:07:53 You know, my original theory was, you know, I already told you that I believe that Sasquot spent a lot more time in the trees than other people have talked about. And so I thought that these arches, they have them all over my research area. And as soon as you get out of the research area, no more top trees, no more arches, just force goes back to normal.
Starting point is 01:08:14 It's so weird. And so I used to think that they were just ramps, that they could just easily just run right up them and be up in the canopy. But then after my game camera started capturing these bizarre anomalies below these arches, you know, I have a suspicion that all that pent up energy in that tree
Starting point is 01:08:39 that might be something they'd, can use in some weird way? I don't know. I was just flat out. I don't know. I just have theories. I just know they're there and they shouldn't be. It's, I don't know anything about these creatures.
Starting point is 01:08:57 You know, I try to make sense of it all. But it's just, it's like the farther you go down this path for answers, all you do is find more questions. You know, it's crazy. And I, I wish, I could have got you to watch some of my videos before this interview, so you kind of could see what I'm talking about. And I'm talking dozens of these arches. Like, I'll take you out sometime and show you some of them in person if you'd be interested.
Starting point is 01:09:28 They're bizarre. And the amount of work that has gone into some of these by all the scarring in the neighboring tree where you can see where they had rubbed up and down, up and down, up and down, like hundreds of times to chew away all the bark and chew away, you know, 20% of the tree to create this notch to lock the arch into place. It's, you know, there's just no way these are just simple followovers that just ended up in this way. Because a lot of people present Sasquatch evidence that I look at and I say, eh, it's interesting, but Mother Nature does that all the time. these arches, you know, you just, Mother Nature cannot do this to a tree. These trees are healthy,
Starting point is 01:10:19 100-something-foot trees, and some of them are completely and totally bent in a way where they're parallel, horizontal with the earth. Yeah, man, I'd be happy to go out with you and check out these different areas. And, you know, I ask everyone on the show, what do you think Sasquatch is?
Starting point is 01:10:40 opinions change over time. But I'm curious, you know, over the last 14 months, what do you think Sasquatch is? Well, I can tell you what I'm confident they are not, in my opinion. And they are not just some ape, some primate that has evaded captivity. I know for a fact they are not that. because if that's all they were, we would have one in a cage. We would have people, you know, following them and monitoring them. I do believe that they are flesh and blood.
Starting point is 01:11:21 I do believe that they eat food. And I know that they have a presence that creates a mess with the trees and the bushes and all those things. So I don't think that they're just a spiritual, you know, ghost. I mean, I, maybe, maybe they can transform into one, but I can't answer that question what I think they are. I, I think they're highly advanced, highly intelligent. I think they have abilities that we can't even comprehend. Your average Joe, you know, can't wrap their head around the logic of something like this existing in the forest, you know, it's, But yeah, I can't answer that.
Starting point is 01:12:10 Well, I don't know what they are, man. That's what I'm trying to figure out. I really am. Yeah, well, I respect that. You know, I don't know is a valid answer. And I think it's something that we're all kind of looking for. And you kind of remind me of myself, Hugh, when I very first got into this, you know, the ambition, the determination. You know, it's, I can't wait to do a part two with you.
Starting point is 01:12:37 and I really appreciate you taking the time to come on. For people who want to check out Hughes Work, go to NW Yeti Quest, Northwest Yeti Quest on YouTube and check out his videos. Hugh, thanks so much for coming on. It was a real pleasure chatting with you. Yeah, man, likewise. And that's it for tonight, everyone.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance, check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Until next time, everyone.

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