Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:1196 The Hunting Club

Episode Date: October 12, 2025

Spoke to Drew and he has agreed to come on the show. A listener writes "I'm 56 years old and an avid deer hunter with 39 years of hunting experience to date. I've had several experiences in the woods leading up to my day time sighting on my hunting club in SC . My youngest son turned me on to your podcast. I feel compelled to share my experiences."

It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind and it either heard me or smelt me and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up and that shocked me. They don't make people that big. The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything moves like that in my life. They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language and they were chuntering away back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forward.

I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet that what I saw were bears. What on now, sir? That sort of a bitch is about six foot nine, I don't know. Do you see a bouncer? out there? Yes, I'm looking right in. This is Alicia from Kennesaw, Georgia, and you're listening to the best podcast on the planet, Sasquatch Chronicles.

Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show plan for you. I want to first kind of apologize about yesterday. The show for tonight was meant to go out yesterday, but I have this little dog named Teddy for those that don't know, and he's been favoring one of his back legs. for most of the week, really. And it's only really when he's laying down or when he's trying to get up that he would whine.

Once he's on his feet, he's fine. But it was just getting worse and worse and worse all week long. And yesterday he was full-blown, like crying, just trying to get up. You know, like some wacky parent or something. I'm like freaking out. I'm calling different vets. And I finally got a hold of this emergency vet, which you know they're never cheap and it was like an hour drive away but he's my boy he's my

responsibility and so i drove him to the vet and i'm just stressing the whole time and i could tell he was in pain most of a week but it seemed like it was getting worse and so when we went to the vet you know he did his full examination and he was basically saying it you know i think it's like a like you and i tearing a hamstring or something a muscle and the there's nothing really wrong with the joints. There's nothing really. It's just, I think it's a torn muscle. And so he gave him pin killers and antibiotics.

And he's doing much better today. But I was laughing because the, uh, the vets like, how do you think this might have happened? And Teddy's got this thing where I think he thinks he legitimately can fly like Superman. And he does it in my house and I let him get away with it because it's Teddy. but I have this coffee table and the top of it is like fabric like he would sit on it. It's the most useless thing on the planet. But he does this thing where he'll run like full sprint from the kitchen, jump on that and launch himself in the air to land on the couch.

And I don't know why he gets away with it. I guess it's because it's him. But he does this and he'll do it in my backyard. Like we'll be at one end of the deck. And I could see his eyes like. up. And I'm like, Teddy, you can't fly. And he'll just take off and launch himself in the air, arms straight out, back leg straight out, like Superman. And I think every time he does it, he thinks he's going to fly. But then gravity kicks in and brings him back down to Earth and he can't fly.

So anyway, I've been worried sick about him. I was up at 3 a.m. this morning giving him medicine and just kind of keeping an eye on him. But again, I apologize for yesterday. Tonight we're going to be chatting with Drew. And Drew comes to us from South Carolina. He had this incident happen to him back in 2015. And he's part of this hunting club out there. And he had a full daytime sighting. So I asked him if you'd come on and kind of share it.

If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at saskwatch chronicles.com. and if you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. And again, for the members, I will return tomorrow night. Let's jump into it. I want to welcome Drew to the show. Drew, thanks for coming on.

Yeah, thanks, Wes. Yeah, and I wanted to ask you, how long have you been hunting on this property out there in South Carolina? Well, this particular property, I was in the club for, about five years. I got out for about five years and then been back in for three now. So

about eight years total on this property where I had the daylight siding. If you would before you go into what happened to you, what was kind of your feelings about the whole subject of Bigfoot

prior to any of this going on? Well, not A whole lot. It kind of back to 1987, I was hunting with some family friends. And I had a encounter during early morning hours on some different property down in a small town called Modoc, which is about maybe an hour's drive from where this property is, where I went in the woods, the hardwood bottom and climbed.

up a tree stand before daylight, something on two legs walked up out of a bottom and got under my stand and was breathing heavy. It just didn't. It was just one of those things that just did not fit. No flashlight. I was like, no way somebody could walk through there, come up and come under my stand. Never seen it, but it was just out of place. And it turned and walked off after a little bit back in the general direction where it come from. So I had a feeling of, you know, there's more to what we know about the woods and the south and across the country than what, you know, we're accustomed to. I mean, you know when deer, what they sound like when they're walking, you know, what small rodents or animals smell like, but just that kind of just put an uneasy feeling like,

what's going on? What was that? And, uh, what? And, uh, what? time going by, you know, in the South, we'd sit around the table at night and talk to my grandmother and family and stuff. And I was sharing that with her one time. And she told me she saw, you saw a bugger. And I said, what? She said, yeah, a bugger. She said, be, all these boogers get you.

And she ended up being, you know, living about 98 years old. And that stuck with me every time I was around her. You know, I'd want to talk to her about it. You know, didn't bring back up. her, you know, be annoying to her. But that just in the back of my mind, and I started looking into the subject a little bit, but just, you know, not knowing where it was going to go.

Being a hunter, I said, you know, I'll probably never see one. Being in South Carolina, you know, didn't know if there were a lot of them here or not. You'd hear stories here and there, but a lot of people didn't talk about it. So anyway, leading up to that point, I had experiences. with people out, we would be, you know, hunting different areas of property. There was like almost a million acres, I think, of what the internet says. In South Carolina, there's a million acres of game management or public hunting land. And so there's big plots that has four or five thousand acres.

And with different people, I would go out and hunt. And we would stumble across stuff way back in the woods that just was out of place. So we run across one of these teepee-looking structures. And like I said, I didn't see what built it. wasn't there, but it was just out of place. Another strange event like that. Tracks on dirt roads where you would find footprints on the side of road, and it's like, why would somebody be out here barefooted?

And the foot, you know, necessarily wouldn't always be that big, but it's just out of place. And with that kind of stuff leading up to this event, I just, you know, had thought about it, but really wasn't deep in mind. of the subject. I'd heard by seeing it and, you know, before cell phones come along, a lot of this stuff had already taken place and internet and all that. So when that came about, of course, like anybody else, you'd go and research that and anything, think about it or whatever, you'd go look it up and you'd see things. But that's kind of where I was at up to this point. Yeah, it's interesting. You know, I've heard that from

many, many hunters where they'll be sitting in their tree stand. You know, hunters don't go in with lights or try and make noise or a lot of times they're sitting in the dark quietly in their stand. And I've heard this behavior before where something will walk up on two legs, stand underneath the stand, and they can only hear the breathing. And the hunter is terrified. I didn't know what it is. I mean, it sounds like a man, but it's way too big to be a man.

And it's just, it's fascinating. I've never been able to really figure out that behavior. Tell me on this property prior to leading up to your sighting, what were some weird things that happened out there? Me and my son was down on one of the stands one evening, my oldest son. And he was still in high school. And we were back on a stand one evening and had a deer come out. He shot it. And I said, well, let me go back and.

cross this little creek and go over there and see if I can find it. I said, you just sit here and wait. And I got across the creek. And we heard noises up the creek that just were out of place. Like a high pitch, I wouldn't call it a whoop. It'd be more like a, and it wasn't like a fox. It's really hard to put hand around. It's just nothing I could recognize.

it would relate to any animal here. I was like, well, I need to hurry up and find this deer is getting dark. And I was able to find it and drag it across the creek. And as we were loading it up, he's like, Dad, you hear that? And then I stopped what I was doing because I was focused on getting a deer on the full with her. And I started listening. And I was like, I don't recognize that sound. It was just a weird sound.

You know, it's just one of those other things. Really can't put a word to it, but it, to the sound, but it was just out of place. He said he's heard wood knocks down there, so in that same area where being him were hunting. But I didn't hear that when I was in there that night. But anyway, going back to the places where exactly where I hunted, I was going in there, It's probably about two years prior to my daylight siding. So this would have been maybe the second, third year I was in the club before I got out the first time. I was walking in.

I got off my full-wether. Where that dirt road comes in from the main club is probably about three-quarter-mile drive on the full-wheeler to where I park. and I would park just off the edge of the road and I walked the trail down to my stand. And I got back in that morning. That morning I was hunting to the left of the creek, back, you know, angled, going more southeast from where I actually had the siding. And as I was walking in to my right, as quiet as it was that morning, I was going in with a low, dim flashlight. I didn't want to really shine up anything. And I was walking and I would hear walking.

I heard something walking probably at about a 30 or 40 degree angle behind me. So I stopped. And then it took a couple more steps. It stopped. And it was two-leg walking. I started back walking. It would start back walking. And I still probably had another 75, 80 yards to go.

And I said, okay, I'm going to stop. this time and I'm going to just stand still and see what happens. And I stopped and it stopped. And I turned facing that direction. I said, I'm going to see this by I standing here and wait until daylight. It's either going to move off or I'm going to see it if it's visible. And I stood there until I could see, you know, my hand in front of my face. I didn't see anything, never heard anything else. So I was like, well, I know I'm not hearing things, but what do you do? I'm not going to just stand here, I'm going to go and get my stand and hunt. So, you know, that was one of the strange things that happened.

Another day I was in there and down the hollow when I was in my box stand, which is on that same wash in there, it's a hardwood bottom. They only clear cut the pines up to the edge of the hardwood wash. They don't get the tractors and off all down in there and get too much work. and they leave that, you know, it's just for the runoffs. But down in that bottom, I had a box stand, and I was sitting in that box stand, and I heard, I guess you could call it like a bionic whistle, which there was nobody down that way, and then I heard whoops.

And that's the first time I'd ever heard any vocalization out of any thing that I've heard other people, you know, play, you've played. That's the first time I'd ever heard anything like that. And that was back toward Clark Creek and, or Little River, excuse me. And that little river, it's not, they call it Little River, but it's actually a big river that flows over into Clark's Hill. It's about an 80-mile run of river, which leads all the way back up to due west, which is a small town between Abbeville and Anderson,

and Anderson, you know, is at the foothills where you got runs up into Appalachian Mountains. So, you know, all the river chains are like four big lakes to run down through there. And all that area down through there is just, you know, game management or wilderness. And so, you know, that being one of those areas tied to that river, I was like, this is, you know, prime habitat if I was to ever see something. And why, you know, once again, there's two strange events, something paralleling me, walking me, and then now I hear that. So after that, the next couple, following next year, I think they started cutting timber

right at the end of hunting season. And they had clear cut in the whole hillside that led back up to the road where I parked my full wheeler. In 2015, it was October. It was the middle of the week. I know that because I was by myself that morning when I went to the pegboard. We have a, what we call the pegboard. It's a the lodge area, a little shack, and there's a few cabins.

People stay at every once in a while when they come down. But when I went to the pegboard that morning, I pegged in. So it would have been in the middle of the week. I'm pretty sure it was the second week of October, second week after gun season it opened because I had killed a deer out of that stand the week before. and that always stuck in my mind. And so I was going to go back in that same area. I had a climbing stand on a hardwood tree where I could overlook the hillside.

And when I got up in my stand that morning, oh, about 10 o'clock, it was an overcast day. I'm looking due north. I had the wind out of the northeast. My full weather, I had parked where I always parked up there. And I could see it once I got up in my stand. And the short pines because they had planted them back were starting to come up. And they probably were about four foot tall at that point in time. And to my left down that valley,

there was a, the way those short pines get planted in rows, I could see the road that continues on past where I come in and part my four wheeler, it goes on down and kind of angles to a 45, then it straightens out. So as I'm sitting on this edge of this hardwood edge that drops off into a bottom, I'm watching this whole big clear cut. And like I said, 1030, 10 or 1030, I'm looking down that way, just the same direction from where my other buck I had killed the week before it had come from, just seeing if I could see anything. And I'm scanning that way, and I can only see about half of that road through that row of pines, and I see moving.

I'm like, oh boy, so I picked up my rifle. I'm looking down through there, and Wes, what I saw blew my mind. I just, I couldn't, I had never seen anything move like that. And whatever it was, was down all fours, but it was big from what I could see is its right shoulder, by half of its right shoulder, and over. I couldn't see its head. I couldn't see its left side at all, but I could see it coming down that road.

And it, you know, it almost looked like you would say, like spider crawling or walking. It just was out of place. And I was like, oh boy. When it gets down to where the road forth back uphill at a 45, I lost sight of it. I'm like, well, I didn't know if I'd ever see it again. And I had more questions than I had answers. I'm like, what was that?

So I'm watching, I didn't put my gun down by then. And it's probably a couple hundred yards to where it tops that heel. and I'm watching up there and all of a sudden this thing pops up. It don't stand up. It pops up. It's the weirdest move I ever saw the way it stood up. And then I knew what I was looking at because now I'm looking at something that I had seen pictures similar to. I don't know if you remember that movie, it's actually a TV series.

It came on back in the 70s. Land of the Lost. They was a monkey little monkey boy or something that was on that TV show. Yeah, I think his name was Chaka. Chaka, yeah. This thing was about seven and a half foot tall. It was way bigger than that little character on that TV thing. But it looked like that.

When I first saw it, it had like cinnamon brown colored hair when it was coming down the road and I was only seeing half of it because it was more shady. But when this thing popped up, it looked more like a, which I'd call brown sugar color. And I think it was because of how much light was hitting it. Maybe its underside was lighter. I don't know. But at this time, it looked a lot lighter in color. But it was seven and a half foot tall. It had a rounded head. It didn't have like a real conical or pointed head like some of those pictures I've seen of Patty and other things. This thing had a rounded head and it hadn't patches of hair on its face. But it was looking in the direction of my full wither. I think it could, and I think the look on

its face when it saw my full wither was what the reason it got up and it's like, that's not supposed to be here. And when it's looking at my full wither and it had that expression on its face. Once again, my brain was trying to comprehend what I was seeing. I had, they never expect to, you know, you don't never, they always show up. Don't expect it. I'm sitting there deer hunting. And now I'm looking at something that's not even supposed to exist.

But I had a feeling that, you know, they did from what my grandmother told me and what had happened back in 87, 88, walking under it by standing. it kind of just kind of went full circle there. My brain's thinking, okay, what am I seeing here? Now I know what I'm seeing. And I just, it was just hard to put into words, you know, and feelings. What, you know, what was standing there? And then at that point, I'm like, what this thing going to do next?

That's the next thought that went in my brain. And I don't know how long it's. stood there. It wasn't very long. You know, things like that. It seems like slows down. I mean, I replay it in my mind every day. I still see that walk as it's coming down the road, even though I could only see its right side. That movement it was making was just so odd that it just replays in my mind. And the same with when it stood up. I've never seen anything standing up like that. And especially to be in that tall. And then seeing an expression on its faces, it's looking at my foe with her.

And like I said, I looked there for the few seconds or however long it was. And then instead of turning its head, which I think they may be able to do or turn their eyes, its whole upper section. It didn't move his legs. It just kind of turned its shoulders. And now it's looking in my general direction. I'm like, okay, I wonder what it's picked up on or why it's doing that. I don't know how it could have smelled me.

maybe it just was checking out the area because that full wheeler was there and it was seeing what else was there. But when it turned its shoulders and looked in my direction, I'm like in my brain, I'm going, okay, is it going to come this away? Is it going to? What's it going to do? I had no idea. I heard a couple of your shows I've been listening to it and it was talking about, you know, somebody's full wheeler got tore up. And then I talked to people at work and they said, well, And I tell people about my story, people that trust me with my line of work.

They know I'm not going to just talk and say something. It's not true of my reputation about the line of business. And they're like, well, why didn't you shoot it? And I'm like, that's the last thing that was on my mind. I said, I had a phone in my pocket, a gun in my hand. I said, but I'd never seen one of these things before. And I'm looking at something that I really, you know, back when I was a young boy, my dad always told me he says look if you ain't going to eat it or if it ain't

will harm you he said you best not shoot it and I took that as good advice so I didn't want to draw attention to myself and they said well you should have hollered at I said no I said you know a hunter is always like you said earlier you want the element of surprise you want to be the quieter you are the better you are and that's the same thing I was feeling that time it walked up underneath me I had no inclination of grabbing a flashlight and turn it on it shine it down there. I didn't know whatever it was below me. I didn't want to know it was up there, even though it might and knew I was. And that's the same feeling I had about when I was looking at this thing. I was trying to study it and figure out as much about it because I, you don't know how

it's going to last. You don't know what it's going to do next. And then immediately in that moment of time, my brain thinking that this thing turns and it's like, I don't want no part of this. I'm moving away. And it walks straight away from me over the road. And, and it's, It's probably maybe 25, 30 feet to the next row of pines, but those were a little bit taller, and it moved right between them and went on. So that was the end of that siding, but it changed my life forever, West. You know, I look at a lot of things differently. When I go out in the woods, I feel that I'm not always on edge, but I'm just more cautious.

That's a good way of putting it. there was times back when I was young I didn't even on a pistol I'd have a bowie knife on my pocket or a knife of my pocket and I'd just head out but I don't feel the same way anymore the majority of hunters are really safe with guns and they're not going to shoot something just to shoot it it's kind of like that mentality you were just talking about where if I'm not going to eat it I'm not going to shoot it obviously unless they're in danger the hunter's absolutely going to shoot it. But I think when it comes to Sasquatch and putting one down, I really think a hunter is going to be the last person to do it. When you were looking at this

saying, would you describe it? And did you put your scope back up when it came back out? Yeah. I never, when it popped up, I was looking at my naked out. When it popped up, I mean, I didn't add that in there. But when it, when it stood up, that's when I raised my rifle and I was checking it out. And that's when I realized it looked like that character in that TV series came to my mind. It didn't look what I thought by seeing a picture of Patty in the face. It didn't look a lot like that. It wasn't as broad or heavy set as the one picture of Patty.

It was more slender, but yes, it was still muscular, but it was. It was tall and kind of almost is the width of its shoulders. Of course, were wider than when it dropped down into its legs. And it had a long torso. His head sat right on its shoulders. Like I said, it was a rounded head. And then its legs, you know, were shorter than the torso, which was odd. I mean, you know, it's just the way the thing was built.

But the face, like I said, it had patches of hair. eyes seem to be sunk back in a little bit and kind of a heavier brow ridge. His forehead might have slowed back some, but skin was kind of an ash color. It's just, it just blew my mind. I just, what do you? You don't understand seeing something like this and trying to, you know, my brain recorded, of course. Like I said, there's not a day goes by because I listened to the podcast. I watched TV shows.

I was like, hey, there's some special coming on. And immediately when I start watching, that whole sighting plays back through my mind again. And, but like I said, with its face, I really couldn't tell the color that. I just know they were dark. With that scope I had, I have three by and 50 millimeter scopes.

That being, you know, 100 or so yards from where I parked to full wheeler to where I climbed up the tree, to overwatch these hillsides and it kind of widens up to my left. But that's basically all I could tell. I couldn't see any ears, so they must have been smaller. I mean, like I said, the hair, the way if you ever look that creature up on that TV series, the hair was longer coming off the top of the head. It had more of the forehead showing just like in that creature on that show.

but the hair on the side of his head kind of hung down like almost like a guy with a mullet or whatever but mullets when it's in the back but it's all the way around the sides over its ears and that's kind of all the details I had in its and looking at its face I was checking it out the best I could in the time I had but I survived because his nose was you know flattened it but like a human nose even though it had when it was on the ground. I didn't see its head. I wished I could have because then I could describe what it looked like, more animal-like is when it was crawling,

that was more animal-like. When it stood up, it looked more human-like, I guess you'd say, minus the fact that it was covered with hair and, you know, just the different facial features. It almost looked like it was, in a sense, you would think when you're talking about a creature like that,

like it was maybe interbred a little bit, It doesn't look compared to the patty as being the standard. This thing looked a little bit different. I've heard that Chaka character referenced many times by eyewitnesses. Would you say what you were looking at was more human-like? I would say about 50-50. Like I said, it had human features, just kind of like them, you know, an orangutan or a monkey or whatever. They have, you know, eyes, ears, mouth, teeth like ours.

nose, but then, you know, they more resemble a monkey, but then, you know, a grillo, resembles a grilla, but then you mix in that human factor of a human face mixed into that. You could even go to say as far as a little bit of a Native American look mixed in there. I know I've seen on totem poles and mass that they've carved a big foot. They had to be spot on because, you know, it really had. that oval facial look that a lot of those Native American carvings look like, they knew what it looked like in the face when they carved that. I really believe they saw the same thing that I saw or similar to.

And when you said it looked at your four-wheeler almost like, oh, that doesn't belong here, what was that expression like that gave you that impression? It was like shocked and at the same time kind of confused. Like that shouldn't be there. And I don't know what it was doing. I don't know if it was traveling up that road. You know, when it down on all fours and not seeing its head, I couldn't tell if it was sniffing the ground.

I could only speculate what it was up to. But when it got to the top of hill and obviously there saw, had to see him before with it was the only reason it when I popped up by soon. But with that look on its face, it, like, that shouldn't be there. And it was more of a kind of almost like a frown, like it was disappointed. But at the same time, it was like frustrated. Does that make sense? Yeah, that does make sense.

And so kind of the expression you're describing almost sounds more human than it does really animal. Yes. And that aspect, yeah, because if you look at most animals, they look the same whether they're mad or, you know, the only difference between mad is their mouse open and they're growling or the mouse closed and you say, oh, it's okay. I guess everything's okay. With this thing, you could tell it had emotion. I mean, it showed emotion to itself and to its expressions. And like I said, that's, you know, my mind at that point in time when I was looking at it. and then it finally turned its shoulders toward my direction and general direction that looked. It was like, what's it going to do next? That was the biggest question at that point.

I said, is it going to come toward me? Is it going to make any sound? Is it going to go toward my full wheeler? I mean, I had no idea. But that expression was like either, you know, frustration and it interrupted what he was doing or whatever he was doing. and he didn't like it. And then it was kind of like at the same time, maybe I shouldn't be here or I'm knowing it shouldn't be here,

but I'm not going to confront this because I don't know what's going on down there. Who's there? Why that's there, I'm just going to get out of the area. After it looked at the four-wheeler and kind of turned in your general direction, do you think it knew you were there? I think it was just trying to scan what else might. be in the area. I don't think the sun was shining enough to pick up a glare off my scope. Because like I said, at that point, I was looking through my scope so I could get a good close-up

view. There was no doubt what I was looking at was flesh and blood. And like I said, when people asked me why don't when I shoot it, I was like, well, it wasn't threatening to me, wasn't tearing up a full wheeler. I had no reason to kill it. I wasn't going to eat it. What would I do with it if I killed it at that point in time? I mean, all those quick questions go through your brain. Of course, a hundred times since then, I'm going,

you know, well, you saw one and you had a chance and you muffed, you could have been famous, but that's not always, you know, the tell-tale,

what it mess up. You know, like I said, I'm a hunter first. I don't go to the woods just to see Bigfoot. I was a fortunate thing that happened. I guess you could say,

it's changed my whole thoughts on a lot of things about the woods, but I love to hunt so much and being an avid hunter, I ain't going to let it change how, I feel about the woods because the people ask me and said, well, if you saw one of those things, ain't you scared? I'm like, well, you know, we should be scared to get on the highway every day.

I mean, you can, you know, it's just one of those things where, you know, you never want to me, you know, when somebody's drunk driver is going to hit you head on. I said, I go the same way to the woods. I don't know when something might happen, but I'm not going to let that incident and that experience changed how I feel about the woods. That's just me, you know. Yeah, I generally try and tell people, especially hunters, not to shoot them. Obviously, if they're threatening you, send lead down range.

Or even if it was tearing apart my four-wheeler, I would have shot it. But, and I've said this many times on the show, I don't believe that they run around by themselves. I think if you see one, there's probably two or three nearby. And they tend to have a revenge streak. and so I tend to tell hunters not to shoot them. If you want to become famous or infamous and shoot a Sasquatch, I'm all for it. I don't have a lot of love for these things,

so I'm not saying it for Sasquatch's sake, mainly for the hunter's safety. But it is interesting too about the spider crawl. I remember when me and my brother reported that, and we were laughed at. I remember all these big time Bigfoot researchers said, oh, they don't move, they don't do that. They don't move like that.

And it's like, well, I don't know what to tell you. That's what we, you know, that's what we saw. That's so strange, Wes, because I didn't even know they did that. When, like I said, when I had that and walk up under my stand and I did a little research after that between that siding and, or the siding I had in 2015 and then having that experience because I can't, I can only speculate what that was. but like I said, the strange things that I've run across out in the woods, that just out of place up to that point where I see this thing,

it's just one of those scenarios where I didn't know all, you know, nobody would probably know everything about these things. I think even if they study when they still don't know it because they don't know what it does in the time it's in the woods. I mean, if we had one on a table, they'd still be, you know, speculating, you know, what's this migration or whatever, unless they was able to track one or tag one and follow it that way. Maybe they can in the future. I don't know. But I didn't know they even got on all fours.

And after I had that experience, the first thing, one of the first things I'd done when I got home from the hunt and then told my family about it. And of course, you know, they were, you know, just didn't know what to say. But I got on and Googled it. I was like, well, let's just see. And sure enough, you know, reports in Kentucky, you know, there was just numerous people had spotted these things crawling on all four. I didn't even know that.

They did that. I thought, you know, okay, it's a Sasquatch. They walk around like we do, you know, but nope. And that's what, you know, the whole thing that, about that experience that was really just overwhelming was it approached me doing something I didn't know it could do and never thought about it doing it. And then I see it in a second way it moves around and it doesn't drop back on all fours to walk away.

So what's the mindset that they have between crawling and walking, you know, is can they travel faster or they, why they do that? know. It was just strange. I mean, you know, a deer, he stays on all fours all the time unless they fight and they can rear up a kick and stuff like that. But this creature has multiple ways of moving around. So I think a lot of times people's idea of one thing is shocked by another. And that's just another thing about this creature. It's kind of unpredictable. And the fact that, you know, you don't know. You just don't know what they're going to do and how they're going to react. Yeah, my personal opinion, and again, it's just my opinion, I think they do it for stealth.

And I think the other reason why they might do it, you know, as a hunter, you're engaged with all your different senses and being low to the ground like that, I wonder if it was kind of smelling and sensing where everyone was at, where they kind of left the four-wheeler. And then when it popped up and was looking at the four-wheeler, I almost wonder if, I almost wonder if they have that same feeling we get of being watched. Like it knew it was being watched and it was time to go. And I'm just guessing, of course,

I wasn't there. And it's just my opinion. Yeah, that's a good, that's a good possibility. I know since that occurrence, it seems like, you know, I'm more in tune with what's going on in the wood. It just sharper my skills that much more, I guess, because I'm knowing that they're out there.

A lot of times I would be just, you know, in the woods and just happy go lucky. And I'm a lot more sharper now. And, you know, and I'm listening out for signs for that and whatnot. Not that I'm totally scared, but just being a hunter. You know, we're born with the Godgiven abilities he gives us, and then we go to school and they teach us things. And then while the time we get out of school, we're filled with a lot of books and knowledge that, yeah, with half-truths. And then our real true life experiences is really what we grow on. And I think in that sense, you know, learning just in that short window, it wanted me to know more about it.

And that's what really, you know, led into me studying it. And then my son, my youngest son, turned me on to your podcast. And I just absolutely enjoyed it. Because you don't get to hear it anywhere else. The hunters down here are one other short tidbit about that. But right after I had spotted that one, one of the chief, I'd say chief guys in the club, the elders, this was one of the older elders of the club, was sitting there one day, following week after I had that siding in 2015.

And I was like, you know, I'm just going to pop the question. And it was over in the afternoon. We were getting ready to peg in to go hunt that evening. I said, Terry, I got a question, and I know this is going to sound out in the middle. And I was just expecting him to go, oh, no, I ain't. I said, Terry, have you ever seen a big foot or anything look like a big foot down here? And he shocked me with us. He turned, and he looked at me and he said, well, I was back here on Stan 1-3, 13,

and he said, I was sitting up there in the morning. and he said up out of a bottom he said I saw I see he said I guess you would call it a young one that look what you're talking about and it come up on out of the bottom up into it was like a little shooting lane of grass and there was old big pine stumps down through there and he said one it crawled up on one of those pine stubs and stood up and I said really and he said yep he said and it's, you know, kind of put his head back, kind of looked around, sniffed around, and then he said, it turned and went right back. He said, but it didn't want to come off that stump.

It went back on all fours and went back down in the bottom. And I was like, well, I can't believe it, Terry. I thought, for sure, you're going to tell me I was crazy. And he said, no, that happened. So I know for sure, I ain't the only one on that club. Now, other people haven't come out and said anything. I really hadn't asked a whole lot of questions, but I know I'm wasn't. the only one that spotted one on that property.

Yeah, in a situation like this where it's a hunting club, I would be shocked if you're the only one that ever saw it. I almost wonder how many people in the hunting club have shot a deer and went to look for it and it vanished. That's happened, Wes. No doubt about it. There's several deer over the, let's see, five. and then I got out for five, got back.

For eight years, I've been there, and probably some of the years while I was gone, I know there was several deer that was shot and fatally wounded, and we never found them. And I wonder sometimes, you know, is that a dinner bell for these things? Or they know hunters are shooting deer, and are they hoping to find it before we do?

But I shot one since I've been back in the club a couple years ago. I knocked this deer down, and I knew it was down, and then I had a, it was a buck, nice buck, and then I had a dough come out. I shot her, and she ran off and fell down and died. And so I climbed, now I'll sit there for about another 30 minutes getting close to dark. I walked down and found the first one drug it out. And then I went on down where I knocked the other one down.

And there was a puddle of blood and some blood going up to the bank, but it was just drops. And the deer was gone. And I went back down there and spent a half a day the next day scowering at hill. side and found nothing. So it wasn't shocked me at all with. I mean, I never seen them eat a deer, but if they do, then, you know, that's a possibility, good possibility. You know, prior to your sighting, there was a lot of weird things that went on. You were finding weird structures. You were hearing weird things in the woods. Did you kind of know what was going on? I mean, thinking back to that incident that was about 28 years earlier when you were in a tree stand, did that go through your mind?

Or were you just like, I don't know what is going on here, but we're just going to continue to hunt here. And that's the way it is. I mean, did you kind of know what was going on? I really didn't know. Other than, like I said, the prior experiences, I just, I figured it may be. but like I said, not seeing it along with it. You can only say maybe or speculate that that's what that is, but it doesn't fit the place.

I mean, like, you know, when it's out of place, it's out of place. We have occasional black bear down here, and that's really rare. Mainly is, you know, coyotes, white-tailed deer, turkeys, squirrels, foxes, raccoons, ducks and geese, but that's about it. You just don't have any animal sounds outside of owls. You do, of course, and coyotes make noises, but the weird sounds that just don't fit. You just, in the back of your mind, you're saying, is this Sasquatch or is this Bigfoot, whatever you're bugger, whatever you're going to call it?

I think most people around here call them boogers in the south, they know more about what you're talking about when you mention that, then they do big foot, especially to all the people I talk to. But other than hearing other people's experiences and what they heard and say they hear sounds and they correlate it to it, that was just weird stuff and didn't fit. And that's why, like I said, when I finally saw this and it was like, okay, then. And maybe this is what making these sounds. I mean, with other experiences people have told and they tie the two together because they've seen it and heard it, it kind of puts, you know, one plus one equals two. Yeah, I would imagine, especially after you see it, there's always that moment of, oh, I wonder if that's what all that weird stuff was that I experienced before. your grandmother, she talked about the boogers. Did you ever get a chance to talk with her as far as what she knew or you ever have any long conversations with her about the boogers?

Well, she told me when she was a little girl. And the reason that she said that because I was telling, you know, telling her that story about mine and what I thought it might be. And she says, well, she says, when I was a little girl, you know, they didn't have script. windows back in the days. They would open the windows at night when it was hot. That's just the way it was. And she said one night she heard something and she woke up and she looked through her bedroom window and there was a hairy hand reaching in toward her nightstand. And she said that, you know, she just froze.

And I don't know, you know, I can't remember all the details from that point on, but that's what she. she was telling us. So. Yeah, that's creepy. That's really creepy. I wanted to ask you, you know, after that experience you had in the 80s, which, again, I've heard that sort of encounter many, many, many times. And people react the same way you did where you just sit there kind of still and hope

it goes away. And then after actually seeing this creature, what do you think that they are? What's kind of your take on it? I believe it's an animal that has characteristics that we humans have. That's my firm belief in it. I don't see if, you know, if we found where, I guess you'd say that they were characterized different than that, then I would say, you know, by things they left behind where it was more human. human-like, you know, I think this is just the appearance has human-like features.

Like I said, I was saying a while ago, there's monkeys and gorillas and whatnot to have same features we do. They just don't look as human-like, but that doesn't make them a human. But, you know, same difference with this. I feel like it's an animal, a wild animal with that. And they got to be the ninjas of the forest, the extreme hunters of the land. I mean, to hunt with their bare hands, they don't use weapons that I've never seen, you know, like I said, I only seen one and I've never seen anything or anybody contributed to say other than maybe rocks. They use their hands. So, you know, with that thing and to be able to slip up on prey, it got to be an animal. You know, if they are half and half or something that goes back into the past, then, you know, wow, that's all I can say to that is, wow.

You know, so I would lean toward the animal side. Yeah, I respect your thoughts on it. And you still hunt this property. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm not afraid to go. Like I said, if something's going to take me out, it's going to take me out. Carrying 300 wind mags, some people say it's overkill. I said, yeah, but I don't track deer very far when I do get them.

But I got that in a 9mm during gun season. Like I said, I just go. It's a passion. It's like some people have a desire to go deep sea fishing or hiking or whatever, but, you know, hunting is my deal. And there's one other thing I wanted to tell you about, Wes, that's not Sasquatch for a lady, but I've heard some of your shows back. I'm still listening to, I think I'm in the 400s trying to catch up because my son turned it on. You'd already been going quite a few years. but I was down at my brother-in-laws,

which is probably 15 minutes away from the hunting club. And me and my son were back in their bow-hunting one evening, and I went to check a trail camera right at dark. And from the bottom to our right, my son had just climbed out. We called it the Fern Stand, and I have a stand in there for bow-hunting. And it's 48 acres of private land

that ties into a bunch of other privately. and my brother-in-law, that was a boath up back there when we want to. And because I was out of the club and helping my son, you know, get started into college, we would just go there instead of being at the club because I wasn't a member. And one evening, we were back here, like I said, and I went down, and he had climbed out of the stand and started up toward the road. And I said, hey, son, I'm going to go down here and check the trail camera card. So he stopped at the foot of the hill instead of going on.

back off in the bottom and I went down close to where the furnace stand is and found the trail camera and I retrieved the card out of it and I closed the door on it and when I closed the door on it and went to stand up this light a ball light size of a basketball that was not really lit up like you would say a strong beam of light it was a dull blue color but it was a light dull blue and it had like a little bit of white around the maybe outer edge of it. And as it shined coming up out of the bottom, it shined at like a 45 degree angle from left to right.

But behind it, it was not illuminating any light. And the light was enough to shine in sea trees. And you can see what it was shining up, but it was not like a blinding light. And at the moments that blue would turn almost to a dull, maybe deep orange color, amber color, I guess. And then it would come and go back into the blue color. And this thing was controlled. It was not some gas bubble floating through West.

This thing was controlled. And while I was standing at the trail camera, my son said, because I turned and looked up at him and I'm like, are you seeing this? He goes, yeah. He said when I said that and was turning back toward him, he said it came up over my head. I don't know. I said, well, how high? He said, probably about 20 feet over your head.

And when I had turned back around, it was coming back down. So I didn't see all the movement it made. But while I was over my head, I was looking his direction. But as I turned back around, it was coming back down from an upper position on the boat. of me and it was shining up to the woods to the left, which goes across the creek and goes on to some other private property. And it was lighten up the woods, Wes, as it went up the hill. It was, like I said, a 45 from Dead Center where it was facing. It would be like 45 to the left, 45 to the right. Anything behind it was completely dark. Strangest thing I ever saw in my life.

And this thing was maneuvering through the trees. I mean, it would go to the left, avoid this tree, and then it would go back straight, and it would go up this way a little bit. I had no idea what it was. But like I said, my son can vouch for that one. He saw it with the strangest thing ever. Yeah, I appreciate you sharing it. The lights are weird. I'm with you.

They're weird. I don't know what they are. And when you say controlled, I get it. They don't just aimlessly float like they're nothing. It's almost like there's a weird intelligence behind it. And this didn't happen in the same place where you had your sighting. No. My son said he's had rocks stowed at him down there bow hunting before, and then bush is shaking, but he never saw anything. I've never had any experience there at all other than seeing deer in that light.

Like I said, and I came over there to where he was at just to retrieve the trail camera pictures, and that happened. And like I said, it was right at dark. And he told me even when we were leaving, he said, Daddy said, I heard some weird stuff down in there tonight. He said, I just couldn't put my finger on. He said it wasn't normal. And I said, well, that ain't normal either, you know. We talked about several times on the ride home. We live about 30 minutes from there.

And like I said, it's about 45, 50 minutes to the club. So when my brother-in-law lives, he's in the club with us. It's only about 15 minutes from there to where I had my sighting of the booger or Sasquatchew. There's a hundred names for Indians named them. Every tribe. So I know with that going on. I always had an inkling, I said, with every story, there's a bit of truth. And too many people from the globe around with all the different names have seen the same thing, look at the same.

They look similar, but they are the exact same. I don't believe so. I've seen so many variations, heard so many people tell variations. And the variations are the same, depending on how many people you talk to or listen to. Some of the people seem the same variation in the same areas. So that tells me there's multiples, but he has had experiences down there in due west. Yeah, I really wish

I knew what the lights were. I've only seen them twice, and on the second occasion, I actually thought it was someone with a flashlight that was walking. It was kind of that motion. But the other one I saw, kind of, it sounds very similar to what you saw,

and it is kind of a dull light. I wouldn't really say either, one of them was a terrifying experience. It was just weird and just kind of confusing, but not terrifying. Yeah, it didn't put me in a position where my heart was about to beat out of my chest with the one walking up in the dark and breathing if that's what it was. Like I said, I'm speculating because I didn't see it. But that really put me into overdrive.

The daylight siding, it put more of, like I said, just blew my mind. and then seeing that light was just, I was just like, wow, you know, we think we know what's going on in this, in this world. And we don't have a clue. I mean, there ain't none of that, no history books they taught us. And ain't none of that, nobody talking about on the news. You're crazy if you see something like that. I know I'm not. There's most people, they live their daily lives.

They drive up and down the highway. They go same places to eat. They go to the same place to work. They go to the same places to party. They never get out in the outdoors. And those of us that enjoy that, we have so much more to see, so much more to do. And we are experiencing a heck of a lot more than most people realize. And that's probably part of the drive that makes me like to go out and hunt.

It's always a new experience. And any time out there is better than a good day at work. I think a bad day in the woods better than a good day at work. Yeah, without a doubt. And I, you know, I really appreciate you taking the time to come on and share it. You'll have to let me know if anything else happens on that property. And I know that you go back to hunting everything. Be careful, will you?

Yeah, I sure will, Wes. I appreciate you. Let me share. Like I said, I enjoy the show. I'm trying to catch up. But it's a good out for those that their life's been changed. By having an experience, you can't get closure or at least, I guess, that feeling, like I said, unless you see another one in the woods, it's not going to give you any more insight. So you have to listen to other people's experiences to kind of build on what you've got and what you've experienced because it's just one of those things.

Can't put it away, so therefore you've got to kind of feed it. I guess it's the best way I could put it. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. And definitely keep me updated, and I appreciate you coming on again. Thank you, Wes. And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com.

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