Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:122 Sasquatch at my window Part Two

Episode Date: July 7, 2015

I released part one of my interview with Bobby Hamilton, here is part two of my interview. Bobby Hamilton grew up in Garrison and Jacksonville and said he has had encounters with Sasquatch. Hamilton said his first one started in the winter when he was four years-old. "I'm walking in the bedroom with my head down and I hear something scratch the screen and I look up and there is this apish looking thing with an evil grin, because I could see teeth, and it was motioning with his hand for me to come to the window," Hamilton said. Hamilton believes East Texas is the perfect sport for sightings of the primate because of the wooded areas to hide in and the abundance of fresh water. Hamilton also said he believes the public will soon start seeing more sightings. "We are having more encounters with these things coming up to people's houses and killing their livestock," Because their environment is being torn down," Hamilton said. Bobby Hamilton is a co-founder of the GCBRO. Now a days Bobby spends his free time researching and investigating reports of aggressive Sasquatch's harassing locals. The GCBRO wants to harvest a body so that they can present real evidence to science and prove that in fact this creature does exists.

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When I had come down this hill, I had seen this creature cross the road. They would have ripped my locked door from my truck, extracted me from my vehicle, and no one of that damn thing I could have done about it. This thing I got to notice in its eyes. His eyes was real, real evil, real sinister. You know, the look it was given me. What were you putting?

Jesus Christ, you bet. Here, see them. Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about 60 foot nine, I don't know. Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right at him. Uh-oh.

Welcome to Sasquatch Chronicles, a place where people share their encounters. Let's start the show. Welcome to Part 2 of my interview with Bobby Hamilton. And Bobby, there's a lot of things I want to get into tonight, so I kind of want to jump right into it. One of the things I wanted to ask you, through all the encounters I've had on this, show, rarely is the smell ever reported. But when people experience it, it stands out from the encounter. And for people who aren't familiar with this topic, maybe wondering what I'm talking about.

A lot of different researchers and a lot of people in this field theorize that these creatures have a scent gland. And when they're in fear or when they're angry or when their body chemistry changes, they put off the smell. And so I wanted to ask you, have you ever been in a situation where you've experienced that? I had one incident when I got real serious into this. I went over to, into Louisiana. A lot of people knows my hunting partner is Jim Lansdale and some property that was

in his family over there. It was little over like 1,526 acres. and it had several creatures on this property, and nobody had camped out on this property. I mean, Jim, you know, the whole time he had, you know, been with his wife and whatnot. I mean, at least that he knew of, he started hunting that property in the early 90s, or could have been the 80s, but I'm thinking of the early 90s, he didn't know of anybody ever camping out on this property.

And so I was, myself and, and, you know, two other gentlemen was the first once to ever officially camp out on this property. And Jim's like, Bobby, are you sure you want to camp out? He said, these things are going to come see you? And I'm like, oh, yeah. You know, I'm all in, buddy. And he said, you know, if you made me, you know, he goes, you know, try to get your cell phone signal and call me, you know, and I'll come down here. I'm, you know, about, I think he's about 12, 15 minutes away where he lives from him.

I'm like, I will be fine, you know. It was a little interesting, to say the least. The first night we was there, I heard things I've never heard before. I mean, it was like a zoo, all the sounds that was going off. It was some of the craziest sounds. And one of them, if I was to take and point my finger directly in front of me and go clockwise, well, go from my left to my right, and just take and start swinging my arm across at a fairly rapid rate.

Off in the distance, something started making this weird. It was a goofy sound, and it wasn't a coyote. I mean, I hear coyotes all the time. This thing was making this real weird, goofy, yelling sound, and it was hooked up. It was moving extremely. extremely fast down one of the fire lanes around the property. I can't tell you how fast it was going, but I can say this.

It could outrun a deer as fast as it was moving. It was fast. And, you know, it was at least a half a mile or more than it did it. And it was hooked up at a very rapid rate as fast as it was going. And I'm like, man, I never heard nothing like this. Well, we was sitting there at base camp, and we was at the edge of this field, and the field a little bit bigger than a football field, and the rest of it was woods and real heavy, heavy woods and had fire lanes cut all in it.

There was a lane that went in. On the right-hand side was a hawthorn thicket, and we was to the left of the lane. We built a fire and then put the ten on the other side of that, And so you can take the width of a football field. Well, it was like that width to the other side of it, and there were big, thick patch of woods there. And actually, I believe the other side of that patch of woods is where Jim, when his first encounter, his first encounter was in the field where he had actually seen something his first time.

We're sitting there, and across the field and that one patch of woods, something is over there snapping limb. you could clearly hear feet stomping, you know, shaking, freeze and doing all this, and we're sitting there talking to fire, and it just keeps, it's just going on and on. And, I mean, it went on for a while, and 20 minutes, maybe a little bit more. I'm not going to name another guys that was there because I don't know if they want to be named publicly. I tell people in private, you know, but I ain't going to mention it publicly. I'm like, you know what, I've had about enough of it.

this. I was still on the fence about hunting them, you know, to kill one. Jim had told me, he said, brother, you know, because I, you know, being Jimma just actually met, he'd contact me because he was having all the stuff on that property. And he told me, he said, I get a chance. I'm putting one down. And I'm like, okay, I said, well, you know, I'll help you get it. I'll go with you, but I don't want to pull the trigger. Well, you know, course of encounters that was happening, uh, convinced me, you know, forget this, you know, because I was halfway swaying back and forth. I couldn't make up my mind which way I wanted to go.

And I always had a video camera and recorders, and I still carry them for research purposes. But, and I always had a rifle and a pistol and a shot had been with me. And anyway, we're sitting there by the fire, and one of the guys was really sick. He had a real, real bad head cold. and he was just, he was taking suit of fed, and he was just like, I'm so sick, and he was sitting there and, you know, fall asleep in the camp chair close to the fire,

and he's trying to keep warm, and, you know, he wanted to be there. He was a team player, and I felt bad for him as sick as he was, because he didn't get to really have the experiences that we was having. And, anyway, we've been sitting there, and, you know, we first started hearing all that snap, and, you know, the stomping and all this stuff.

It's like, man, do you hear that? Yeah, we listen and we're listening. And then, you know, it's going up by the fire and start getting warm again, and it's still going on. And it's still going on. And it's still going on. It's like, man, will they give up already? I mean, they can see we're not leaving.

We're here. I mean, enough's enough. And I guess it's probably about 20, 25 minutes. And I found out, you know what, I've had enough of this. And that one guy says, what are you doing? I said, I said, grab the light and come with me. And I grabbed my 30-30, and I run across the field. I didn't have any flashlight on me at all.

And that patch of woods wasn't as thick as a hawthor and think. But you could actually weave and work your way up in there at a fairly rapid rate. I run up in the woods for about 30 foot, and I stop. And you could hear there was two different creatures, and they was running back towards the bottoms. from where we was at, they was, you could hear them breaking stuff as they was, they was, they was hooking them, they was getting it. I had let my, you know, emotions get the best of me, you know, and my deal was, look,

we know you're there, you know, we're here, you're making these noises either come out and show yourself or stop it. I've had enough, you know, as you're like put up or shut up time. But I run up into those woods and I could hear them running off. and that was a good distance away steadily getting it. And I hollered out, you know, I don't know if you can hear me or not, but if you can, you're a, you know, chicken, you know what. Right, right.

And the other guy, I turned around, and the other guy, he was only halfway across the field. He didn't even run up in there with me with a flashlight. You know, and I stood there for a little bit, and, you know, they was gone, and I come on back out. And, you know, I could see the fire and everything real good, and the moon was lit real well. And I'm like, why didn't you come up in here with a flashlight? He said, man, I wasn't running up in there.

I'm like, why? He said, I just wasn't. He said, you know, he goes, I don't know what he was going to do. I said, dude, it was put up or shut up time. You know, enough's enough. Well, the night went on a couple hours later. I'm sitting here, you know, we hadn't heard anything else. It got real quiet.

And I'm sitting here facing the fire. and out of nowhere, the hair, you know, when people said the hair stand up on back of their neck, I had a tingling running up and down my spine. It was just running back and forth, and I'm sitting here, looking at the fire, and they're just contemplating all the nights of vents that had taken place. And then all of a sudden it clicked.

It's like, wait a minute, something's not right. You know, if you've got this tingling running down your spine for a reason, something is not right. I turned my face away from the fire to, you know, start getting my natural night vision back, you know, been able to see better, you know, blinded by the firelight. And I'm sitting here trying to get my bearings. And I'm like, that's some of guns over in the Hawthorne ticket over here. And he's sitting there watching us.

You know, he was watching me. I could feel him watching me. And that's why everything was going haywire, you know, running up down my spine. And it was just a tickling feeling. It's like your spine is lifted and there's little tickly things running up and down where it was. It's just real weird. You know, it was just like you knew something wasn't right. I got up and I grabbed the flashlight and I grabbed, I think that's about 30-30.

I'm not a grab my shotgun, but I'm pretty sure it was by 30-30. I kind of stepped away probably 30 foot moving back, away from the camp, back up the field along the lane right there. and I got a slight width or something. Like, oh, man, that ain't good. And I went back and I told this one guy, well, the other one was sitting there asleep. He was sick. I said, hey, man, you need to get up, wake up,

because both of them was asleep. And actually, another guy had joined us. It was one of Jim's friends, and he was laying by the fire asleep. Anyway, I got the one guy up there in my group, and I said, you need to come with me. And he said, what? I said, there's one over here in this thicket.

We need to get a bearing as to where he's at. You know, I said, I got a whiff of him, but we need to see, if we figure out exactly where he's at, because he's sitting here watching us. And he got up and walked with me, and we got to where we got that slight whiff again. And he stopped. He says, oh, and he backed up. I'm like, well, help me get a bearing to where it's coming from, because he's up in this thicket.

and I walked forward about another five foot, and when I did, I hit the wall of smell. That width that we got wasn't nothing. You just got a slight width. I hit the wall of smell, and it was just like you walk into a break wall, and it caught me where I was actually inhaling at the time, you know, just breathing in,

and I got a whole set of lungs full of this stuff. I'm like, man, I backed up. I told him, I said, you need to come up here and get a whiff of this. said, no, I don't. I mean, yeah, you need to get a whiff of this. He said, no, I got a whip of it. That's all I want.

I'm like, yeah, you haven't got nothing. I said, you walk up there and hit that wall of smell. I said, buddy, that's, that's bad. What did it smell like? I know a lot of people talk about the smell, and I've never really personally ever smelled it. But what did it smell like? Well, it's, it has a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it has a couple of

combination of smells to it. It's a real, strong, strong, extremely strong urine ammonia smell. And deer hunters will know what I'm talking about. The buck will sit there and pee and he'll pee on the inside of his, like around the

knee area of his high and legs, and he'll have these little patches where, you know, it's just part of a scent gland bill. And, you know, they're pretty strong smell, you know, I mean, it stinks, you know, because they pee on it, you know, pretty much their whole life, you know, and it's part of their scent, you know, for marking things.

That doesn't come close to it. I mean, it's, it's like something had, and actually we started coming out and saying, you know, which I did, I got to come out publicly and said these things had to have a scent gland to release this smell on will because, They couldn't, you know, it wasn't there all the time. So it had to be a scent gland, and they had to be able to release this scent. Of course, the Internet had, you know, armchair researchers on there, and they're, oh, no, there's no way it could have a scent gland.

It's never been proven to be in any of the eight family or whatever. Well, we're not talking about typical known creatures here. We're talking about an unknown creature. And Jim, you know, said, yeah, and if it smelled that away all the time, it started death because, you know, it couldn't sneak up on anything, because they'd smell it, you know, and which is exactly right. And, you know, then they discovered that one of the gorillas, the lowland gorilla or mountain gorilla or something,

has a scent gland where it can release scent. And it's like, uh-huh, so there you have one of your non-apes that has a scent gland, you know, so, you know, we're on to something here. Well, this, this, it's a real strong urine, ammonia scent, like it's been peeing in a fold of skin. or something for 20 or 30 years, and it's just sitting there just fermenting and getting just real rancid and rank. But you take that smell, and you combine it with a, oh, if you have a raccoon that won't tree, you know, he'll live in a creek bank or something.

I mean, just, they stink. They just have a nasty wild animal smell to them. You put that smell with that real strong urine ammonia. scent and that's pretty close to what this thing put out there. And, I mean, it was, it was tough. I mean, it, and actually, when I smelled it, you know, the other guy, he wouldn't, he wouldn't, he wouldn't walk up there and get that strong width of it. I backed up and said, uh, we did see where he's at.

He said, well, I think he's right over here. I said, I think you're right. He said, well, the wind's whipping, you know, through there and coming out of that area and coming right through here, I said, yeah, I think you're exactly right. Well, I backed up, you know, staring at this area and got two camp chairs and pulled them away from the fire and put my back to them. And I had laid my shotgun across the camp chair to my left. And, you know, and I had my 44 magnum laying there with that. And then I had my rifle.

and I hold my right hand on the lever and everything else. And the left hand, I'm kind of just leaning forward in my camp chair. I've got it laying across my knees kind of pointing in that direction. And I'm just sitting there. And this other guy said, what's the matter? I'm like, what do you mean? What's the matter? He said, what are you doing?

I've never seen you act like this. I said, I said, evidently, you didn't smell what I smelled. He said, yeah, I smelled. I said, no, you didn't smell what I smelled. You got a slight width, and you knew that something was there. That's the smell that I had smelled, and I told you about. You didn't walk up there and hit the wall of smell. The smell that I got, when I hit the wall of smell, told me that this thing isn't here to be our friend.

You know, if he comes out of that hawthor ticket, he's coming out to dance, and he's playing for keeps. And I'm not going to be sitting here, you know, looking into the fire, and this thing hit me from the back and catch me off guard. it's not going to happen. You know, this thing, you know, the feeling I got when I got that strong whiff of stuff was, this is a bad boy. He is bad to the bone. And Jim would say he's the bull of the woods. You know, he is.

I just think it's interesting how you're sitting there. You don't see anything. And then you get this sense like something's around. You get this feeling like, hey, I'm being watched. And I've had that before. But it's just kind of curious when these creatures are around for whatever, reason. It's almost like we've dealt with them before in the past, and so when that kicks in, we know we're in danger. I just find that part fascinating that the hairs on the back of your neck stand up. You haven't really

seen anything, and then you get up to go check it out, and you run into this wall of smell. Yeah, you know, and I had never really thought much about, you know, because, you know, going into this, you know, I read books, you know, when I was eight years old, you know, I was at a local department store. It was a Gibson's department store, which was like Walmart at the time. You know, it's not a Walmart, but it was like, you know, our Walmart at that time before the Walmart stores hit. I was there looking at some of the iron-on transfers and patches, you know, for make love, not war, peace, do unto others and split, you know, we'd get them and we would iron them on our t-shirts, you know, and I'm looking at them, and to the left, there's, you know,

a bunch of, you know, pocketbooks and stuff. And there was this, you know, and there was a yellow book there and it had a film clip running across diagonally and in that film clip there was this this creature and it was this dark black looking creature and it was walking looking back at you and you know that that image you know i i go up her a couple times a week because it was about a half a mile from our house i'd ride my bike up there because we ended up moving to jacksonville texas and when we left Garrison. And here I am, four years later, I'm at Gibson's, I'm looking over, and I'm seeing this book, and then, and I don't buy an hour on transfers.

I go ahead and go back home, and I think about it, and that image kept haunting me. All that night, it haunted me. It haunted me. Well, I got on my back, and I went back. I bought the book, you know, and, you know, I tried to read a little bit in it stuff, and, you know, talked about a few encounters and stuff, and that image haunted me. and I never really thought much about it, you know, until I got the book. But that was what I seen in the window, you know, four years earlier.

And my mind was processing, you know, hey, you know, there's something about that image, something about that image, you know, because, you know, we didn't have Bigfoot in 1969. You know, I hadn't even heard of Bigfoot, you know, here in Texas. And my mind trying to process this thing, you know, so I knew I was drawn to this book, So I got it. And then, you know, my mom, every two weeks, she would go to Tyler, Texas, and we would buy groceries at Kroger's, and we'd go to the mall, and they had a bookstore in there.

Well, I started going to the bookstore, and every big footbook that they had, I got my mom to buy them for me. And then, you know, I had them going into their little computer thing they had back then, you know, and looking at it or whatever they looked in. And they would look in there, they would say, well, you know, we had this book by so and so or this book by so and so. You know, every Bigfoot book that was out at that time, I had it. You know, they would order them for me and we'd go back and pick it up two weeks later. Right.

I had every big footbook imaginable. I was just, you know, starving for information. I was trying to get answers. You know, and what I found when I got to actually do the field research, you know, yeah, I'm being about encounters of other people. You know, but it's not telling me what I need to know, you know. But as a kid, I didn't realize it, you know, is when I got older and started doing research, you know, I'm out there and, you know, we're working in the field, we're finding stuff, we're deciphering, you know, well, what does this mean?

What is it doing here? What is this, you know, the smell? I mean, you've never heard talk of a scent gland. You know, you heard, you know, about somebody having a stench put on them, but, you know, nobody ever said anything about a scent gland. And I'm like, well, it has to be a scent gland. You know, it can't, it has to have a way to release this at will to let you know, hey, you know, I'm here, you know, it's got to be a nervous reaction that it has.

If you get too close to it, it'll release it. But, you know, you talk about, you know, it's like that six cents type deal, the hair stand up on the back of our neck or whatever. you know, it may be something from the past where our ancestors have had encounters with these things or something and it's passed down, you know, through the bloodline to us because, you know, your dogs don't want nothing to do with this thing. I mean, and like we found out, you know, through our research, you know, when they're coming up around the house and you have a dog that'll sit there and raise cane and barking a ward and everything else, biggest majority of the time, that dog don't make it too long. They usually take that dog out.

I wanted to ask you, have you had an encounter during the day where you got a really good look at one of them in the face? I've seen some during the daytime, but it wasn't a real close visual. Since I was a kid, that was the closest one I had. I did have a nighttime encounter in Oklahoma to where this thing. walked out and it was about 90 foot from us and you can see the the moon was back from behind us shining in that direction and it was over the trees from behind us and it came out and it was about 90 foot from us and that creature was about between seven and a half to eight foot tall

and it was either a khaki color or a gray color it was a real light color because he stood out You know, it wasn't a dark color, but, you know, it had to be the hair and everything that from the back of his back to the front of his chest, it was at least two and a half foot thick, maybe a little bit more. I mean, it was massive. And I was just like, that's the first sighting I had when I got to actually doing field research was that siding right there. And it went up to its head. And, you know, you've got the typical head at the back of it kind of has a crest to it. Like, you know, they call it the conical shape. But it was real thick.

And it had to be thick hair coming off the head coming on to the shoulders to make it look like the head and everything was the same thickness as the shoulder blade to the chest. I mean, because it just went up to the top of his head. And it was, this thing was massive. It was extremely massive And kind of barrel chested Oh yeah Extremely barrel chest I mean it was thick

It was really thick And I had a video camera And I started running towards it Well The sound was deceiving When it started When it came out

You know you hear Because we had heard it come in And I said And it made a grunt Like a pig And I'm like that thing Grunning like a pig You know

And I grew up hunting and, you know, it was hard being a kid hunting knowing that there's things out there that's not supposed to be out there and, you know, it was really hard on me. And it took me a while to get over going into woods before daylight, coming out of the woods after dark. I mean, it was tough being a kid growing up in a family of hunters. Yeah, I would have been. Yeah, after having that childhood encounter, it was pretty tough.

my woodman experience and what I knew from from hunting and stuff through all the years we had heard this thing coming up and it came up this ravine and then it grinded like a pig and you know we had heard whistles we had heard wood knocks and whatnot and uh before this you know then it come on up uh there's a dry creek bed with the stones in it you heard a stone clack roll over as it moved, it stepped off of one part of it on another one of those stones rolled over, made a clack sound as it hit the other

stones, and then, you know, we heard a few sounds and it came up this ravine to the top of it and it's like, I think that things coming in over there. Well, then it grunted and made a pig grunt type sound. I'm like, okay. I just don't believe

that's a hog over there, I mean, but it grunted, you know, it sounded like a hall grunt. We're sitting there and I've got full intentions of video and anything I can because I'm going to share with everybody I can share it with you know, hey, these things are out there that, you know, this is what I've seen as a kid. This thing started walking and you hear crunch, crunch, crunch,

and then you hear swish, swish, swish, and it comes out of the leaves, the dry leaves and stuff. And into this one area we was at, it was an area where kids would park. And, you know, teenagers would go out there parking. we was the only ones there it was close to Lake Texoma it come out of the the leaves

and stuff and there was some grass weeds grown up there about 18 inches tall and it come out of that and it hit those weeds and you hear the swish swish switch we look to the left

everything was it was walking at a very fast rate and the sound by the time the sound was registering with us, it wasn't where it was at because we looked to the left where it had grunted and where it was coming from

and we're looking and we're not seeing it. Out of my peripheral vision to my right, I catch movement and I look. I'm like, there it is. I jump up, start running towards it with my video camera. Well, the guys that are with me are thinking that it's still to the left

and they run to the left. They're like, why is he going that way? You know, I'm going straight towards this thing. Well, I'm trying to turn a video camera on as I'm running towards it, and it turns, and right as the camera goes on, it goes down into the ravine, and the camera hits, the light comes on it,

and all these trees that are growing by this ravine, all I got was reflection of all the leaves reflecting back from the light hitting them. And it's just, like, hang it? Well, the ravine was extremely steep, And when I hit the edge of it, I had to grab a tree to keep from falling. Well, this thing, it went crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch. Not once did it slip. And there's no way a man could walk over the edge of this ravine

and walk that steadily down it without falling, slip and everything else. There was all types of dead leaves and everything. And the extreme steepness of this, there's no way. it just, it walked, just as easy as could be, down this ravine, it hit the creek bed at the bottom, just sort of walking back up, and you heard a few little stones roll over and clack against other stones as it worked its way back up that dry creek bed. And, you know, when they noticed, you know, they run to the left and they turn, and they've

seen me, you know, head, you know, when I said, there it is, and I jumped to run, they run to the left. Well, they turn and come over where I was, and they're like, what are you doing? And I'm like, y'all didn't see it. It was right here. And they're like, well, we thought it was over there. That's where I run that way. Well, we got to look, and you could see in the grass where they had run around in a circular motion around it, you know. And, I mean, they went straight one way, and then they stopped.

And when they realized that I was going this other direction, and they come back towards me, and then they had a circular pattern to come back towards me, where where this thing walked, you know, it had pushed down the grass. as it sliding as it's gliding with its feet going through it, you can see the path that it took, you know, across there. And, you know, we was looking with flashlights and everything. They're like, holy crap, this is where it came through. You know, you see where we was over here, where we ran, and what we came back, and you can see where this thing went through there.

I'm like, I told you this is where it was. I was on it, you know, and, you know, it was, that was my first encounter after my childhood encounter. And, you know, my whole deal was, I loved the video, but the main thing was I wanted to see one again, you know, since my childhood encounter's like, well, if I see one, it'll answer so many questions. Wrong.

Seeing one gave me more questions than I could ever imagine. You know, and so it's, you know, seeing it doesn't answer anything. It just lights a fire and the desire to know more because you don't really get to answer anything by seeing it other than, oh, my God, there it is. You know, and that's it. You're the co-founder of GCBRO. You have this show on Destination America, Killing Bigfoot. You've been researching this for years.

And I like the premise of the show. You guys go out to situations to where people are being messed with on their property. People are having troubles on their property, whether it be animals being killed or, just general harassment, and you guys go out to these properties to help people, because a lot of times law enforcement, and most people know this from listening to the show, most time law enforcement isn't trained for this, and so they don't know really what to do in situations like this. People call in a prowler, people call in a stranger on their property, so they don't really know where to turn to, and you guys head out to these properties to help people.

can you think of one time where you went out to a property you thought in the back of your mind, yeah, these people need some help. There's some bad things going on here. Oh, absolutely. The lady and husband that's on the show that you've seen, I mean, there's another lady that lives next door to her. I mean, they've put a lot of stuff going on there. We've been over there a couple of times.

And Jim, he goes to dinner several times a month. I mean, on average, he may go down there every week, but every other week for sure, you know, he'll go down and spend some time there and checking things out, you know, trying to keep things under control. You know, and then when they are really acting up, you know, then we'll go over and try to hunt them and whatnot. They've had a lot of things happen over there, and the ladies are truly terrified. and scared when Miss Shirley, when her husband is there, you know, there's not much going on. But whenever he leaves to go to work, you know, he works offshore as well. When he leaves to go to work, you know, these things just, man, they're like, hey, we got a free ride now, you know, and that's when they start coming in and they bang on the side of the house and

whatnot. The lady next door, she's an elderly lady. She won't even sleep in her bedroom anymore because it was coming up. outside her bedroom window and Jim's got them pictures of these things where they he's got footprints under her bedroom window where they've been standing outside her bedroom window at night and stuff and so she she only is sleep in her bedroom anymore she sleeps in the living room on the couch um we've got that place um there's a place that I'm working pretty close to my home uh where the lady uh they bought this property and

And they put a little small cabin there to start with so they could, you know, get their home, you know, built up more. I think they're adding on to it. And she started having things happen. She had some chickens, and the chickens was coming up missing. The chickens would lay eggs all over the yard. Well, you know, her little daughter would go out there and gather up the eggs and lay them all up on this stump that was a right. beside her house. And I think there was like 21 eggs that she had gathered up and set them on this stump.

And the next day, the lady went out, and every one of those eggs was gone. None of them was broke right there by the stump. They was gone. And so she got to walking around the property looking, and they was way back on the property, busted open. Back there, she found the eggshells, you know, not the inside. but she found them busted up like something had cracked them open. But to do that, it had to carry these eggs.

She's like, you know, because when I met her and talked to her, she said, you know, she goes, I don't know what could carry eggs. It has to have hands to carry eggs. And I'm like, yeah, that pretty much makes sense. You know, I mean, but she had this security light on the side of her little cabin, and her cabin is off the ground about three foot. And then it's up just over the top. edge of her back door.

And she showed me, she said, look right there. She goes, you see the trash pile? I'm like, yeah, she goes, look at the bulbs in there. I'm like, oh, my God, that's a lot of bulbs. She said, yeah. She goes, look up at the light up here right now. She said, I just put that light in this morning. She goes, it won't be there

tomorrow. She said, this thing is coming up and slapping the light out. Every night, it's slapping these lights out. And there's they was just piled up in the trash pile. Well, I walked up and on the ground on, I reached my hand up as high as I could reach. I'm six foot one. And if I stretch, you stretch, you stretch, I can pretty much hit the eight foot mark of my fingertips, just barely touch it.

Well, this thing was over the reach of my hand. I haven't got my tip toes and I could not touch the bulbs that she's putting in there. And they're the big blood light bulbs is what she's using. So this thing was taller than me. And it was knocking the lights out. I mean, it was hitting the lights and breaking completely out of the base. The metal part would still be screwed into the light fixture, but the glass part was out. And it was slapping these lights out.

Well, they had some hog dogs that was pinned up on the other side of the chickens. And they got rid of the hog dogs. She said, whatever this thing is, it ruined the hog dogs. She said, those things are scared to death. They won't hunt anymore. They quit hunting. She said they don't bark. They quit barking.

They will not bark at this thing. And she said, this other little dog that she had, it was like a dot town, you know, like a weenie dog type dog mixed with something else. A little small dog. Well, they had a brush pile behind her house. And it run around there. She heard something and she went outside and she had a 22, a semi-automatic 22 rifle with her. and the little dog run around the brush pile,

and all of a sudden it made a yelp. She said the little thing, you know, she never heard it make a sound like that. She heard this thing. It grabbed it. She heard it made some noise. I can't remember the noise she exactly described, but she heard the little dog.

It made that weird yelping sound, and she just pointed the rifle in the direction. She heard the sound, and she fired off several rounds real quick. You know, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow. and she said when she did, something screamed out. And it goes back to that demonic sound. She said, it sounded evil.

She said, it's the most evil sound I've ever heard in my life. But when it did, the little dog come running back around the brush pile. She said, I think I hit it. And it dropped my dog, but it run back around the brush pile. And both shoulder blades were split open. And it had, she said it was like slobber was all over the, the back. It's like it had picked it up and was biting into it. And then she cut loose with her 22 and started shooting. And then, you know, it dropped it and hollered and hollered and took off

through the woods, you know, away from her. And she said, I don't know what this thing is. I just want it gone. Well, her husband was working out of town. And he would be gone for a month to two months at a time and then he would come in for a week or two and then you'd have to go back. At that point, when she got in touch with me and I went over and I started investigating, you know, in which I recorded some sounds over there that's

real interesting. I mean, it's chimp type sounds. It sounded like a chimp making some sounds is what it sounds like. Her husband came home and he got a job locally to where he wasn't out of town. Well, everything was fine.

And everything has been fine. up until just a couple of months ago, and then he got put on nights. So now he's working at nights. Well, when he's off work, it's not a problem, but when he's gone working, this thing's coming back up, and it's harassing her and her daughter, and her little nephew, she keeps your little nephew, and, you know, they're scared to death.

And she told me, she said, Bob, whatever you've got to do to get rid of this thing, I just want it gone. I'm working with the guys right now, and we're, you know, preparing to do a hunt over at that location. And we may, you know, if everything gets lined out and everything gets signed, the contracts get signed, you know, we may film us hunting over there, you know, if it gets done in time, but I'm working on doing a hunt over there. And that's, I mean, that lady's terrified.

You know, she just wants the thing gone. Her little daughter, she's about 12 years old, and she, you know, she's a little bitty-dainty thing, and she told me, She said, she said, Mr. Bobby, please get rid of this thing. She said, you know, I can't sleep at night. You know, she goes, I'm so scared this thing is going to be in the window looking at me and it's going to get me. And I'm like, baby, we're going to do whatever we can to get this thing out of here. You know, we're working on it.

She's not far from my house. If I jump in my truck and I really hook it, I can be there in about 10 minutes, you know, down some back roads to get over there. And, of course, that's done about 85, 90 miles. an hour. I told her, I said, if this thing comes up and it's outside your house, and you're, you know, and it's doing, and it's acting up, you're scared. You can call me anytime. I will, I'll jump out of bed, throw my clothes on, and I will be here to take to it. I mean, I don't have a problem with that. And she's been handling it so far, you know, pretty good, but she's like, as soon as y'all get here and try to get rid of this thing, you know, please. I actually went

over there last week. It was making some sounds outside her house. And I showed up over there, and it made two different sounds while I was there. I took off in the woods in the direction that it was. So I'm like, okay, we're going to see if we can, you know, put our eyes on this thing. And I had my two sons with me. We took off in the direction of this thing, and we went all through the woods down the trails and stuff that it used and everything, and it pushed it off the property, and we hung around

for a while, and, you know, we didn't hear anything else. And when we pulled up on the property, her horses, she has some horses, they was at the front of the property on the west side, the northwest corner, and they was up in there in that area, and this thing was over on the, kind of the, it's more the eastern side of it. It wasn't so much northeast or southeast, it's more just the eastern side of it. And they was up in the northwest corner as far away from it as they could get. And after I, you know, pushed towards it and pushed it back,

there was a hunting lease on the other side of her property. After I pushed it back off on that hunting lease, going towards it and kind of back, I noticed that the horses come back across the property on across the front up there and they was up on the southeast side and stuff and grazing around and eating and stuff and I'm like, yeah, we push the thing off,

you know, because the horses are over here now they're not huddled up on it, you know, on that northwest side scared to death. Yeah. But, yeah, and that one little dog that it had it grabbed a hold of, it would, the whole time that it was in that one area and we heard it. It was under the house,

barking, barking, but it was under the house. It was back up and under there where you couldn't get to it. It wouldn't come out from under the house. And we pushed it off and everything, it quit barking, but it was going nuts until we took towards it. But that's just another one of the

families that we're working with. Are you ever concerned? Do you know there's so many stories about, like I can think of the Siege of Hanabi or the miners up in Washington State? where someone did shoot one, and then all of a sudden things got much, much worse. Are you ever worried about being on someone's property, taking the shot, killing one,

and then kind of up and leaving, and now the resident at the house might have bigger problems going on than what they had before? Oh, yeah, we've taken all that into consideration. when that one was shot back in the early 2000s, like I said, I'm fuzzy on the years, but it was like the January following the World Trade Center, the September 11th attacks on the World Trade Centers, it was like the January or so following that, so, you know, five, six months later.

It got kind of crazy there for a while on that property. It got, you know, a little crazy. Just a lot of stuff was going on. We're pretty, you know, and pretty much from what we know, we've also become really good friends with a lot of people have heard the siege at Hanomia, of in Oklahoma, you know, which is, you know, tell a story of a good friend of ours, Michael Humphreys and his brother in which Michael is part of our team. And, you know, they've contacted another group that,

went up there, you know, because his brother had shot one. This thing was coming up to their house, and his wife and daughter were scared of death. This thing was looking into windows, and so his brother shot one, and he actually dropped it. And he contacted this other group because there was like three of them, and two of them come in and grabbed it and took off with it. And, man, for months afterwards, you know, at least three months. man, it was just, you know, the family went through a lot. You know, people don't realize everything they went through.

They pretty much had to stay armed to the teeth all the time and be on high alert because they was, you know, they caught a lot of flack from the other creatures over, you know, Michael's brother shooting that one. I'm not going to say anything about the other group and other people involved. It was, you know, I wasn't there. dealing with another group, Michael and his brother was very dissatisfied. And they didn't want anything to do with anybody.

They claimed to be a researcher afterwards because they was looking for help as to what it happened. You know, and, you know, his brother and everything, like, look, I need somebody here to help me. You know, I don't want to be, you know, he don't need to be standing behind me. You're supposed to be the experts. You're supposed to be help with me. You know, he just, he didn't feel like, you know, he got what he had. for and it was probably a year and a half, two years after that, they finally, you know, started talking to us and he come down in Wilmson, you know, on one of our hunts.

And the person out there, you know, him and his brother both, they're like, hey, you know, we wish we would have called you guys because, you know, we called the wrong group because, you know, you guys are a real deal. You know, y'all are getting out here in the mix, you know, and all this. And, you know, from what we've, you know, learned from these things, you know, you guys are spot on, you know, with everything that y'all are doing. And, you know, we wish we would have called y'all to come up there, you know, when a tug took the shot. It's like, well, you know, I understand. I mean, it's just, you know, that's the way it happens. But we pretty much

come to realization that if we're on somebody else's property, where they're being harassed by these things, and we shoot one, we're going to be pretty much prepared to spend three to five months there, you know, to deal with the aftermath of what happens because it's, if there's several creatures there, it's going to be pretty crazy, and we already know this. So, and of course, you know, after we'll make the shot, you know, we'll be having a couple of us to be there, you know, and it's going to be at nighttime when this stuff's happening anyway, for the most part, you know, maybe some daytime stuff, but mostly it's going to be in the night time. A couple of us will stay and we'll just be relieving each other off.

you know, after so many days back and forth there to keep, you know, the family protected, you know, for the remainder of the time that these things are riled up and, you know, we may have to, you know, take more than one. And, you know, if we do, we do it. You know, it wasn't the original intention, but that's what we have to do and that's what we'll have to do because, you know, everybody's safety is the utmost importance here. I mean, yeah, we want a previous thing exists and drag a body out. So they can, you know, put it on a slab and examine it and give answers, you know,

for all the questions that we have. But, you know, we don't want anybody getting hurt in this whole thing. And we, from day one, our whole bill has been about safety, you know, gun safety and everybody being safe and nobody getting hurt. I mean, because, you know, we're in the woods at night, you know, we're with high-calibre rifles. And, you know, if somebody comes to our camp, you know, going to join up with us and and they exhibit any unsafe, you know, firearm, you know, handling it any way. Well, they're not allowed to handle firearms.

And if they can't deal with that, then they just got to leave. I mean, they're pretty much contained to, you know, being the count person, you know, at base camp. Because, you know, we don't want anybody getting accidentally shot or anything. It's just, you know, safety is one of our biggest things. I'm glad to hear that, you know, in that situation, especially with the families, because I think that, because I interviewed my comfries, you know, I spent hours on the phone with him. And one of the things that he always said to me was, hey, if you shoot one, was be sure in chamber another round because you're going to need it. You know, the aftermath of when you guys finally get a body, pull it out of there, the family might be in bigger harm's way than when they were before.

So I'm glad to hear that you guys follow up, stay there, make sure nothing else happens. and I think it's the best way to get one, to be honest with you. Why not take out an aggressive one? That's absolutely right. And that's the type that we're trying to get. We're not, you know, a lot of people have a misconception about what we're all about. You know, we call the Bigfoot Romantics, you know, because they're so in love and fascinated with Bigfoot, you know.

Yeah, the flu players. You know, we've had chances to shoot a female. We've had chances to shoot the young ones. And you got through, well, that would solve the mystery. If you were just done that and brought in, yeah, it would have. But that's not what we're about. We're not trying to just shoot any creature. And our experience in dealing with these things, you know,

it isn't like we've just seen them once or twice. We've seen them many times. And we've had many opportunities to take one. But the deal has been the whole time is, hey, guys, we're not here to shoot a female. We're not here to shoot a young. We're here to shoot an adult male. And you'll know the adult male when you see, you know, and that's the whole thing.

And, you know, these ones are showing aggression on these families and stuff. You know, it's a male and it's an aggressive one. But, you know, even if by chance it would have been a female, you know, if it's been aggressive towards, you know, humans and their property, well, sorry, shame on you, you shouldn't have done it. You know, you shouldn't have come up here and mess with these people, you know, because if we get you under sites, we're going to take you down. Yeah, you know, I didn't know Michael had I had talked to you.

I mean, I wasn't aware of that. I spend a lot of time, you know, at work or I'm not at work. You know, I try to get the field as much as I can. And like I said, I've got this lady I'm working with locally with this stuff going at her house. And the young Michael, he's part of our group. You know, he joined up with us. And if we go to series with our show, there's a good chance you may see him, you know,

in the episodes as well. you know he shows some interesting coming on board with us to do the film and he he would have actually been in the pilot episode but um you know his dad was really sick at the time and we're like dude you know you take care of your dad you know because that's your family's most important thing and he stayed in Oklahoma with his dad you know spending time with him and um anyway uh so there's a good chance you'll be seeing him you know in the in the episodes that we hope we get to make here pretty soon. What are the chances you think the government's going to step in and take a body if you guys,

I know you guys have contingency plans against that, but I'm saying if you didn't have those contingency plans and you shot one, what do you think the odds are the government would step in and take the body? My honest opinion, actually, it would not surprise me one bit if you got a body and you let it be known that you had this body, you know, hey, I've got, you know, who are the local paper, you know, they're taking pictures and putting it out there. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if within a day or so that you had somebody show up and they took your body.

You know, yeah, like I said, we've got contingency plans, you know, to try to keep that from happening. And, of course, you know, when you got big brother involved, you know, if they want something, they're going to take it regardless. So, you know, we're going to try to keep that from happening. I can't take our plans, but it's just some plans that we have. Personally, I think that it is very highly possible that that would happen, and that's my honest opinion. I tend to agree.

I appreciate you coming on the show, Bobby. I appreciate you taking the time. I've been looking forward to it all week and definitely wasn't disappointed, and I just can't think enough for coming on the show. Well, I appreciate that. I was looking forward to coming on here and talking with you. you and kind of making people more aware of, you know, about us and what we're about. I mean, because, you know, when you just see somebody posts on the internet or you just see

a website that they're own, I mean, you really don't get to get a feel for what the people are about. And everybody, you know, everybody knows that anything in print can be taken out of context so easily. And, you know, this kind of gets me more closer with the people, you know, that are out there are kind of wondering about us, you know, and all they're doing to see us in print, and, you know, they might have seen our show, you know, the killing Bigfoot, but they still don't really know us, so the more we can get out here and, you know, speak of our calls

and more about us. It kind of brings people more in closer and personal with us and knowing about us and what we're about. And, you know, hey, if there's any conferences or anything that you're ever going to be at by any chance. Just, you know, come talk to us in person. I mean, you know, we're all very personable guys. You know, we'll take the time to talk to you and you can get to know us one-on-one. I mean, we've surprised many people in the past from being at conferences and they came and talked to us. And they're like, wow, you know, you're nothing like what we thought it was like.

You're just totally a different type of person, you know, because we've been stereotyped as, you know, because of where, you know, we live at, you know, we live down south, and we've been stereotyped who's just crazed, drunk, redneck, you know, killers, you know, out spotlight and everything. No, it's further from the truth. And, you know, so if you get the chance to come where we're going to be anytime to meet us, you know, come meet us, you know, contact us to the website, you know, and, you know, for the most part, you know, we don't mind, you know,

if our time is, you know, available and everything lines out right, you know, we, we do meet people and, you know, go out on outings and, you know, let people see what we're about. I mean, we're not monsters. We're just people like here just like everybody else. We have a desire to know more, you know, and that's the whole thing. And, you know, we wouldn't get answers from reading books, so we took it on our own to do this. and this is where we're at. So come meet us, get to know us, and, you know,

don't just base your assumptions about us on what you see on the internet or what somebody else says. Learn for yourself, you know, talk to us in person. You know, we're here. You know, we're not going anywhere, so come on out and meet us. Yeah, well said. Thank you again. I sure appreciate it.

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