Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:123 Bigfoot-like creature on Mount St. Helens

Episode Date: July 9, 2015

College instructor Mitchel Townsend reported on his research paper which he believes proves that a Bigfoot-like creature resides in the Mount St. Helens area of Washington state. In 2013, he came upon a stack of deer bones, and noticed they had giant teeth marks notched into them– the markings did not fit any predator profile and were too large to have been made by humans. Further, large footprints with a length of 16 inches were found near the bones. Extrapolating the teeth and footprint measurements, Townsend concluded that the creature is around 8 ½ feet tall, with a wide stride. Mitchel was recently on Coast to Coast talking about his research. I will also be speaking to Blake who is a researching in Texas and talks about how he really did not believe in this creature but has always had an interest. All of that changed when he had one vocalize at him. He shares with us his encounter.

Five, five, four, four, three, three, two, one. One. When I had come down this hill, I had seen this creature cross the road. They would have ripped my locked door from my truck, extracted me from my vehicle, and no one in that damn thing I could have done about it. This thing I got to notice in its eyes. His eyes was real, real evil, real sinister looking at me.

The look it was given me. What are you, please? Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about six foot. Sir? Yes, I'm looking right at him. Saskwatra, a place where people share their encounters.

Let's start the show. What's going on, everyone? Thanks for being here tonight. Thursday night. The weekend is almost here. You know, I've just been slammed all week with encounters. People contact me with their encounters, and I absolutely love it. You know, I spent yesterday from about almost seven to a quarter.

o'clock in the morning to almost nine o'clock at night, literally on the phone all day long, talking to people about their encounters. And I really enjoy giving people an outlet to express what they saw, express the behaviors they witnessed without any fear of being ridiculed, without any fear of someone calling them a liar. I just, and I really enjoy, I think I enjoy more hearing people's encounters and talking with them about what they saw, probably more than people enjoy the outlet of being able to get it off their chest. But it's been a great week.

I hope everyone out there listening. I hope you've had a great week. There's so many bad things going on in this world. You know, I go on Facebook, I get bummed out, turn on the news, I get bummed out. There's so much negativity. And the subject really is a release for people just for an hour or so to get their mind off of the problems they have going on in their life and just kind of listen to what someone else ran into

some of the stranger things that people ran into. So thank you for being here. I sincerely mean that. Thank you for listening. It's going to be a great night. I've had so many encounters. I almost thought about doing a... I was watching Back to the Future

and they have this all weekend long, you know, where they play part one, part two, part three. I thought, you know, I should do something like that. I have so many encounters now with people who are contacting me. You know, I'd love to just get a show out every night, but there's, you know, I'm only one man. I can only do so much. If all my focus was just what you're hearing now, it would be easy. But there's a lot of things behind the scenes.

At the end of the day, I still love it. I love all of it. Can't thank you enough for listening. I want to give a quick shout out to Tyler D. he's one of the guys on the website and he always has something positive to say and you know I really do appreciate it you know after a long day

sometimes it's cool to go to the site and see so much positivity so Tyler thank you for being a part of the site thank you for being a member and I'm going to be actually contacting the website developers to see if we can't get the forums up by this evening or tomorrow

I'm still waiting for an answer on them and I'm still on top of them for that. I have all my moderators in place. So everyone out there listening, let's just kind of keep it positive. Let's keep it a cool place to share ideas. I really do want to keep the forums a positive place for people to share ideas and experiences and just a cool place to communicate. The other one I want to give a shout out to this week is Papa Yeti. Another cool guy on there. I really appreciate it. Always giving great feedback. Always shooting out ideas. And thank you so much. for being a part of the site.

I'll be doing more and more shoutouts as we go along. But I usually try to keep the show rolling, so I try not talk too much about the weather or too many shoutouts, but I will be doing more shoutouts as the show goes on. You know, it's interesting. I was just talking with a police officer, and I won't mention where he's from. He knows who he is.

Him and I had a long conversation, really good conversation. And he was telling me, hey, Wes, you know, I never really truly believe that, this creature was out there until I sat and listened to all of the encounters on your show, the people who come forward. And, you know, I talked to a lot of people who will mislead you throughout the day or lie to you being a police officer.

So you kind of get a sense when someone's telling the truth and when they're not. And after listening to your show, he said, hey, I'm convinced that there's something out there running around. And I don't know if you guys have heard this or not. Probably most of you have. There's an instructor here in Washington State. Mitchell Townsend, and he came across a bone pile where something was sitting and eating a deer, and he took measurements from the teeth. He wrote a long paper.

He was recently on coast to coast, and he was talking about his research findings of this creature that was, this predator that was sitting there eating the bones of this deer. Take a listen. It began in about 2013 the spring of. I was at the foothills of Mount St. Helens and came across a very interesting thing. It turned out to be a stack of deer bones that had seemingly giant human teeth marks taken out of them. And consequently, I did some research and came to the conclusion that there was nothing at Mount St. Helens that would explain that behavior. Thus, I put together a program to try to initiate additional input of the local colleges in my area.

Fourteen, two of my former students came across two similar stacks of bones on the other side of Mount St. Helens. that had very similar giant hominin front incisor teeth marks. We call them dental evulsion attributed injuries. After 16 an amount of research, we determined the duration between these three geographically separated prey bone assemblage sites. And we went further from there and did a huge of contemporary limitations to determine indeed if this was a possibility. I also did contact the Department of Fish on Wildlife here in Washington State that did a preliminary

assessment of this bone stacking behavior, and they assured me that no possibly be responsible for that type of material alone. After that, we did some significant measurements on all of the teeth structural signatures. About nine months worth of, we came to some very provocative conclusions that included the possibilities at that time, now confirmed that a giant homin creature

had lived and had been living in Were you able, Mitchell, to extract any kind of DNA samples from the bones? At this point, we haven't done that, but we do have flesh still attached to the bones. Now, DNA genetic is indeed present. Based on the bike marks, Mitchell, how big do you think this hominid might be and its size, its head? How big is this? At this point, we based our analysis on NASA extrapolation from the average Homo sapiens, which averages about 5 foot 9 inches with a foot length of 10.76 inches by 3.6 inches.

If you extrapolate those measurements, we came to the conclusion that our unidentified hominin species is approximately 5 on the heel with a stride of 72 inches, correction, a step length of 72 inches and a stride of 144 inches, both of which are any modern contemporary homo sapien. My God, and that description alone, Mitchell, echoes what a lot of people who have apparently witnessed creatures like Bigfoot in the Washington State area. That's absolutely incredible. Not only incredible, scientifically confirmed through dyserentic dental analysis. Tell me about some of these 30 PhDs that have,

that this has been sent to for analysis. What kind of feedback are you getting? At this point, we haven't received a huge amount of significant feedback because we understand in our research. After 30 days, we haven't received one incidence of even questioning our scientific results. At this point, we have seven confirmed forensic dental characteristics and one very possible dental characteristics, which would be called shovel-shaped incisors, and that is primarily a diagnostic characteristic of Neanderthal men, which approximately died out 12,500 years ago. So what we have is a series of interlocking forensic dental analysis signatures

that are homo erectus, homo sapient in nature, yet size through size measurement and extrapolated analysis are more than double the size in seven different scientific. confirmed categories with one being almost scientifically confirmed and will be confirmed through microdermal abrasion analysis. Mitchell, if a human tooth is about a quarter of an inch wide, how big do you think these teeth are? Well, we looked at averages, average human teeth structures because it's important to understand that there is a very large interspecies variability ratio between different types of populations.

And so what we did was we went back to the site, a upper incisor measurement of approximately 6.5 millimeters to 8.5 millimeters, which covered approximately 82% of the world's population with a plus or minus accuracy ratio of 0.5 millimeters. This could very well be one of the most exciting stories about Bigfoot I have ever, ever heard. You know, we've always had this situation where people have tried to hoax things where they had a costume and stuffed it with deer guts and things like that,

or the possibility of DNA, which may or may not be the fact. But this story, Mitchell, I don't know. This has some incredible credibility to it. Is that for any scientist or anybody anywhere to exile or measurements? This is forensic dental science. This is material that's hard science that cannot be fake. There were no tool marks, no fire damage, no predator correction, no scavenger marks.

So this creature had marked that territory with whatever, probably an olfactor substance, and thus all of the naturally occurring behaviors resident to those populations of scavengers were not occurring. And so consequently, what we have is a, what we feel is a hunting range based upon our analysis of two different types of science. One is called forensic dental toponomy, the other is called neal technology. and both of these sciences are subdivisions of paleontology, very well-recognized science analysis. And between our integrated, we were able to not only measure the teeth, look at the different types of dental signatures,

and confirm them with the contemporary literature, but also we also found tracks within a quarter of a mile of two of the deposition sites. And we were able to track that back 100 yards and reconstruct the track line, and that gave us the measurements on step and stride length, which we could extrapolate into height measurements. Interesting stuff. I'd sure like to have Mitchell on the show and have him share his findings with the audience. Very, very, very, very fascinating.

Well, tonight's going to be an interesting night. I want to welcome Blake to the show. Blake is actually a researcher, but prior to actually becoming a researcher in this field, he had a couple strange encounters he wanted to share with us tonight. So, Blake, welcome to the show. Thanks for being here tonight. What's up, man?

And you're down there in Texas, one of my favorite areas. And before we actually get into it, now you have your own, you're part of a research group. Do you want to mention what group you're a part of? Yeah, I'm affiliated with the Timberline Bigfoot Group. They've been around for about 10 years now. They were nice enough to take in me and teach me the ropes pretty much as far as what to look for when it comes to looking for big footprints. Prior to your encounter and prior to finding footprints,

you were doing documentaries, correct? I was mainly into just filming stuff, stream stuff like people dirt biking, people doing street stunts on their bikes. You know, anything wild footage twice, I love to capture. Pretty much how it started was about a nice video camera.

camera right around the time that I graduated from college and they could shoot Blu-ray video and then my friends were saying, you should make a documentary about something. So I'm kind of fished up on the internet looking for a film subject and a guy contacted me and said that he was affiliated with the Timberline Bigfoot Research Group and that if I wanted to hook up with him, I could come film him. So it was like, it was a calling because I... I had an interest in Bigfoot as a kid, and I was like, this is it. Like, this is what I want to film.

This is so, like, perfect for me. Me and this guy met up, and we started researching together. And tell me about the first time that you guys went out and you found tracks. What did the tracks, what did they look like, and what was going through your mind when he found those tracks? The first time me and Colette Schrenner went out to his research. church area. He was showing me stuff, you know, kind of showing me the road signs to look for. We walked around this patch of woods for a couple hours, and I was thinking of myself, I was like, okay, like I'm skeptical on if this is even a real creature, you know. I was thinking maybe I could

devote like two or three weeks to really look in with this guy, and if it doesn't pan out, At least I tried, but the more we looked, you know, he was showing me stuff, and I was really, I was getting bored with that. I was like, I don't know if I could come back out here with this dude looking at trees, bent over and stuff and saying, what if this was a big foot activity and this or that. But, you know, he was telling me, he was telling me that this area was a hotbed activity. Pretty much we're scanning around the woods, and I saw this tree, that was laid over, and it looked like it was picked apart,

like something had gotten into it and just, like, stripped it apart. I couldn't notice of it, and I said, hey, course, man, let's go check this tree out. We walked over to this tree, and there was chunk of wood all over the floor, like something had been freshly digging in it for grubs or worms or something. When we walked up onto it, that's when we looked down and saw this giant footprint in the mud, like down the 4th floor. And I froze and he froze. And I was like, look, look at that, look at that.

And I pulled out my video camera and started rolling. When we documented our first, well, my first print, the first print I ever found. I put my arm next to it and it went from my elbow down my fingertips. It was long. It was like 18 inches long. And it was pretty deep in the mud, too. but, you know, in the woods in Texas there's a lot of pine trees and stuff, so there's pine needles in it.

It wasn't a perfect print, but you could see tell impressions, you could see a heel impression, and it was bizarre because out there in the woods in Texas there's so many vines and stickers and stuff that I was just thinking of like, who would be out here barefooted with these giant feet? And it was just, it really sunk in right there because I thought, okay, this guy, like, he legitimately got a real research area. Like, he's not lying. This is no, like, this is no fairy tale. There's something going on out here. We documented that print on the video. We put some stuff next to it for size comparisons and took photos of it. We did a little bit for scanning around the area.

About 20 feet away was another stump that was torn apart, and there was a smaller human-like footprint sunk in the mud, even deeper, but it was smaller. It wasn't, like, super giant. It was probably like a size 10 footprint, but there was two tracks out there. And they easily could have been casted, but at the time, we didn't have any type of casting material with us,

But right then and there, I was sold with this guy with legitimately having good food experiences out of this part of the woods. In that part of Texas, do you guys have black bears? No, no black bears. Yeah, and see, I think that's important to note because some people listening to this may not necessarily believe these creatures exist, but, you know, or have an interest in it, might go, well, why don't you think that's a black bear? Why didn't you think a black bear might have done that? in that area that you're talking about there really isn't

I think the last time a Black Bear was seen was like 100 years ago and so it is interesting you know it reminds me of the guy I just had on a Jay that was saw a Sasquatch pick up a rock

bang it against a tree stop and listen he ended up pushing the tree over and digging out a possum and eating it and then it was tearing apart the stump and eating the grubs

so it really matches up with what you saw. That's pretty cool. I mean, somebody's seen it. I mean, I kind of just put the pieces together when I saw the stump. I was like what would really be working into that stump like that because chunks of wood was everywhere. I was like something was really digging through it.

There was another time when you guys were out and you guys were surrounded by them. Do you want to talk about that? Were you guys out in a research area and that happened to you? We were in the same area. Yeah. after that day, I really sunk my teeth into researching with courts. At that point, on that drive home, I was thinking, like, what's next? Like, you know, that whole three weeks scenario that I had, like, I'll give it three weeks

and see what happens. It was, like, out the windows. Like, this is a legitimate phenomenon happening. This guy has seen him out here in this area. And my next goal was, okay, like, what? do I do, I'm going to try to get one on video. That was my goal. That seemed like completely unfathomable.

It was like there's like no way this will ever happen. This is like a once in a million chance that I could actually put it on video. But I was going to go for it. I was going to sink some time in with this guy and research this area with him. And he said he had seen him a few times in this area. had visual encounters. But, you know, if he can have visual encounters of them in this area,

I'm going to think some time into this subject and then try to see one for myself. I started devising plans on how I was going to do this. And pretty much the first thing was, like, get a game camera. Maybe I could capture one on the game camera. Maybe I can't... We were wanting to date.

I listened to all the podcasts that were out there. This is in 2012, so I went back and got on the internet, started listening to all the Bigfoot podcasts, what everybody was using for bait. And a big thing people were using for bait with sardine cans. So I got my game camera and started baiting it with sardines. It was about four weeks after I met courts after that first encounter, when we saw the footprints about a month later. We kept going back on a weekly basis to check up on the game camera and switch out batteries and SD cars. We went out there on a Thursday, and it was after work, after I got off of work, me and him shot up there for the research area.

And we went up to go check on the game camera, and the date was gone. We were like, okay, you know, we didn't think Bigfoot or nothing like this, like maybe a raccoon got it or something, but we switched up. the batteries and the SD card and we left the game chum running. And it started to rain. Started to rain on us. So we made our way back to the main trail. As we were walking back to the main trail, we heard running through the woods pretty much

in the same area that we had just walked out. And so we jumped, we spun around and I turned on my video camera and started recording and my buddy courts he's a professional photographer that's what he does for a living so he took out his camera and he was snapping pictures and we were keeping an eye out

and these things they circled us pretty much one ran to the left of us one ran to the right and it happened so quickly they covered a lot of ground really quick but I mean it sounded you could hear him sprinting through the wood

And then they came to a complete stop. So we were like, our hearts were beating. I was like, what is going on? And he said, man, I think there's two of them out here with us right now. And I was like, okay, okay, you know, trying to maintain my composure and trying to document everything on video. And we just stayed real still and we listened, sitting there just listening. We could hear them creeping up on us, essentially.

You could hear one advancing a few steps at a time, one, two, three, four. You could hear it crunching, the branches, and then it would stop. We'd be focused on that direction, and then the one we had our backs to would start advancing towards us, and you could hear it taking about three or four steps forward and then stopping. And so we'd been around and look in that direction, hoping to see it, hoping to see it, hoping to see something. We couldn't see it.

They were perfectly camouflaged, perfectly hidden, but averted to the other direction, the one we didn't have eyes in its direction would advance forward. And they kept going this over and over and over. Man, it was scary. It was terrifying. It was so terrifying, but exhilarating at the same time

because we were the only two people out here that this level has preserved. We're the only people out there. It's kind of drizzling. It's kind of close to sunset. And we're just... And as I'm documenting it with the video camera, we heard one of them vocalize.

And the only way I can describe the way this localization felt, it felt like... Like, I was in Dallas. I've been to the Dallas Zoo. I've been in front of... The lion exhibit and the lion stood there and it barked at the audience. It went rooh, roo, roo, roo, roo, roo over and over again.

And you can feel the base in this lion's voice. And it like shook your organs. That's what it felt like. When this animal vocalized in the woods that day, that's what it felt like. And then what it sounded like it went, roooo, just like that. And it reverberated through the woods and it hit me in the chest and I felt the base from this thing. And it sounded like the lungs from this thing sounded huge. And it shook my organs.

It paralyzed me. It paralyzed me with fear. And I just kept holding on to that video camera in the direction that I heard this bark come out of the woods from. It instantly clenched up my bladder. And I was like, holy shit, I'm going to piss in my pants. And I told court, I was like, man. I was like, I've got a piss right now. And I relieve myself right down the spot, not in my pants, but I'd had to unzip the fly and let it go right there as I stood.

We waited a few minutes, and it did it again. It vocalized again. I went, and I just had that camera rolling, and I kept zooming into the area where I heard it. And I was hoping I could caption this thing on video. But I could not see it. I could not see this thing with my eyes. And that pissed me off. I was like, I know it's right there.

I can hear it. I can hear it. It's only like 150 feet into the woods. And I saw something in there, you know, but my eyes were playing tricks on me because the light from the sun was going down. I couldn't really make out what was in there. I could hear both of them advancing, slowing. You know, the time was patched.

The whole encounter lasted. about 40 minutes and that time period went by really quickly, really quick. About after the time I relieved myself, I kind of started to calm down and focus on capturing it all on video because that was what I was there to do in the first place was to document this phenomenon. It was really happening until I was just trying to remain calm and keep my wince about myself and keep the camera steady, try to capture it on video. It quit being as scary because I was thinking to myself, I'm like, okay, like, these things are curious about what we're doing out here

because we're the only two people out here in this nature preserve, and they're not, like, charging at us, they're not throwing things at us, but they are communicating back and forth with each other and, like, slowly kind of creeping up to see what we're doing. But as that event progressed, the sun kept setting, and courts and I agreed, we're like, man, it's about to get dark real soon. And we both agreed. It's like, let's get out of here. Like, we've caught enough on video.

We've got them vocalizing. I don't think they're going to jump down and show themselves. That wasn't really what they were giving off. So we wrapped it up and we headed back to the car. That car ride home was very... very, very quiet. And a buddy course, he can talk. He can talk so much.

And I think we both just kind of absorbed it. I don't think he had had an encounter out there that lasted that long and was that close. His encounters were kind of short, visuals and knocking back and forth. Have you ever listened to a gorilla bark? Yes, I have. Was it similar to that? Yeah, it was similar to that. It was.

I've heard other people who've been out in the woods, and they'll have an experience kind of like yours, not exactly like yours, but like yours. And they'll describe that vocalization. They'll say it barked. And it was one of the witnesses that I had on when I was very first starting my show, and I kept looking for a Sasquatch barking.

And I couldn't find that audio anywhere. No one had recorded it, but what I came across was a gorilla barking. And I had the witness listen to it. And she goes, yeah, it's like that, but it was way deeper than that gorilla barking, but that was close. So it's interesting that you were able to hear that. Did it were you at all the way they were coming in on you? It kind of sounds like, I mean, that's kind of how you come in on prey when you're, I mean, I could be wrong, but that's kind of how you come in on pray, you know,

draw attention to one side and then flank them from the rear. You know, you can kind of trap prey that way. Did you feel that way, or was it more or less, did you think they were coming in to check you out? Definitely, like they were just coming in to check us out. But like you said, then they advanced on us in a real militarily strategically way. Like, they, I mean, they had one side of us,

and on the other side of the state had us in the other direction, but the way that the trails led back to the main road where we had parked, it was so close. It was, like, running distance.

Like, that really threw me off. I was like, I cannot believe this is happening so close to a main road. Like, our cars, if we just sprinted towards one of these guys and broke through the woods,

this patch of woods, we would have been like right there where our cars were parked, but they had kind of like strategically positioned themselves in the way. It was so bizarre. It was like, I cannot believe like this isn't happening in the deep, deep woods where you have to trek miles into and this was close to like suburban spa and where that meets the country and the woods. it was crazy.

Yeah, they move like the military, like special forces in the woods. But, you know, most encounters, to be honest with you, rarely do I get any encounters where someone says I hiked in 10 miles and had an encounter with one of these things. Off the air, I'll generally ask people, hey, how far is the nearest highway from where your encounter happened? And, oh, 10, 15 minutes away.

You know, they're talking major freeway. So they're really not out in the deep. deep woods like most people think. I think that they enjoy hanging close to. That's what it felt like. Well, I know there's a campground in Washington, and they are constantly seen in this campground. But what's funny is most the behavior that people report is them going through the trash,

eating old food. And, you know, I think that we're kind of sloppy out there when we're out in that particular situation with the campground. and they may be, you know, it might be quick, easy food for them to, because they're seen in this campground, and everyone I've talked to, it said, well, yeah, they were going through the trash, or they were going through someone's campsite that had just left. But you're right, you really don't have to go that far out.

No, not at all. And that's what I like about this area, is close enough to home to get out there every weekend and pound some ground. And I've done a lot of that over the past three years. I've had painful bizarre experiences with them. Yeah, well, I wish the best when you're out there. I mean, I really hope that you were able to get them on camera. I don't think most people realize when they think of Texas,

they think of desert, they think of flat land, big, wide open skies. But that's really not... There are portions of Texas like that. When you go in the eastern portion of Texas, it's pretty heavily wooded. I mean, even when I was down there with Bob and the guys, It kind of reminded me of Washington State. You really can't see 20 feet into some of this brush.

It's so thick. Yeah, true. And that is scary when you're in close proximity to one, and you cannot see plenty feet around you, but, you know, it's in there. Yeah, and that is scary. Well, I can't thank you enough for coming on the show, ma'am. Thanks for having me.

Thanks for coming on, Blake. I really do appreciate it. You know, I was talking to Lonnie from Texler Research. And they do a lot of different recordings that they capture some pretty good stuff. And Lonnie, I'm working on getting him on the show along with the founder of Texla, Scott Kessler, on the show, to share some of their encounters. And the guys really do have some great audio on their site. So if you get a chance to check it out.

It's texlerresearch.com. And this is actually from their site. This is some whoops that they captured out in East Texas. Let's take a listen. And this other one is actually from East Texas, too, as well. They were out doing some vocalizations, and this is a response that they got and captured on audio. Let's listen to this. Our good friend Shane Corson, along with Gunner, is going to be having...

They're doing a hopsquatch event, July 19th down in here in Portland, Oregon. And I maybe swing by and say hi to everyone. So if you get a chance, it's July 19th here in Portland, and they're asking for people who are in the area that have had an encounter with Sasquatch to come check it out. The website is hopsquatch.com. So if you get a chance, check that out. And if you're able to make it to that July 19th event, I may swing by and say hi to everyone. Other than that, if you get a chance, please visit Sasquatch Chronicles.com. check out some of the member content.

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