Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:1284 Sara Brown - Browns Property

Episode Date: August 23, 2026

Sara joins the show to give us an update on what is going on the Browns property including encountering a small creature on her roof. She wasn't the only one to see it, her neighbor reported seeing the same creature on her roof. Sara Brown grew up in the suburbs of Olympia and had never given Sasquatch a second thought until she moved to the Chehalis Indian Reservation in 2012. What began as her husband Jonathan's family stories about footprints outside his great-grandfather's smokehouse became more than a decade of firsthand documentation audio recordings of speech, whistles, and vocalizations; a two-minute thermal video; a 16.5-inch track cast now held by Cliff Barackman at the North American Bigfoot Center; and a daylight photograph she didn't discover until nearly a year after taking it. Check out Sara's YouTube channel: Salish Sasquatch

And I felt something that didn't know what it was. I look up and there he was. That was, sorry about this. At the time, I still thought it was a person in maybe a costume or something, but he was big, he was huge. He stood there, he just stood there and stared. I stared at him. We looked at each other.

I'm trying to see his face. which I could see. It didn't look like a gorilla, because I understood a big foot look like gorilla. It didn't look like that. It looked, it almost looked human. It had this bunch of nose. It had the big eyes, deep brow.

I didn't, the head shape was more rounded. It didn't look like a gorilla head shape to me at all. His eyes were very piercing. They look wild. They look wild like, um, like if I come down and I can just rip you apart in a heartbeat. It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind

and it either heard me or smelt me and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up. That shocked me. They don't make people that big. The way you're not. It moved. Almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything move like that in my life.

They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language and they were chuntering away back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forward. I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet that what I saw were bears. soul a bass. What are you reporting? That's sort of a bitch is about six foot nine. I don't know. Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right here. Uh-uh. This is Colonel Nathan R. Jessa, commanding officer Marine Ground Forces, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

And you are listening to Sasquatch Chronicles. Boom. Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. That clip there in the beginning is from Sahela Sassah. Askwatch, and that is the Brown's YouTube channel, and we'll talk a little bit about that later. But tonight I want to welcome back to the show, Sarah Brown. You guys always hear me talk about the Brown's property, and I was chatting with Jonathan the other day,

and he said, you know, you should have Sarah back on. There's been a lot that's happened on this property since you've been here. So Sarah is coming back to give us a breakdown on what has happened on the Brown's property and also be playing a little bit more of that clip you heard there in the beginning. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome back to the show Sarah Brown.

Sarah, thanks so much for coming on. Thank you for having me on again. And I know you have a YouTube channel called Sahela Sasquatch. I'll include a link. Sarah goes out and interviews people back to their location and they kind of recount what happened. And we'll play a little bit more of that clip you heard in the beginning. And I know there's activity on your property.

I've experienced it. You've experienced it. You even had a picture of one. and I know where that was taken. I was shocked when I saw it. But if you would, would you kind of tell us about some of the new activity that's been going on on the property? Okay. Well, so I think I was on your show in like 2012 or 2013.

So, I mean, tons has happened since then. That photo that you're speaking of, that photo actually was taken a day after you were here. And there were all these questions I had. over the years since that photo, you know, there's, there seems to be some discoloration on the creature's head. And I always wondered if, since the photo was taken around noon, I wondered if that was sun glints on his head or if it was a different color. And I saw that, I believe it's the same one in 2024. I saw him down and across the field by the walnut grove. And he was two very distinct colors. I sent you a text after I, after I saw that one. But he was.

two very distinct colors, like an orangutan reddish color, and then a lighter reddish color that was more bronze. And as two-toned as you can get, very distinct two colors. So that happened. And I think that it was, again, the same one that we've seen a few times over the last decade. What were you doing, Sarah? And how far away from you was he? It was quite a ways away. It was about 600 feet away, but it stepped out of the tree line and the sun was, it was about 6 o'clock at night, and the sun was fully shining on it. So I knew exactly what I was looking at, and it was massive. John went over there and stood in the same spot, and I could barely see the top of Jonathan's head. And I saw from its waist up more of the right side of its body. I saw his full arm and his full head. And it was very very, brief it was just for a few seconds. Yeah, I'd always kind of wondered if you'd ever seen that creature again going back to that picture and I'll see if I can't find it and post it under this blog. I've posted it many times. But I know where that picture was taken and that's very close to the

house, isn't it? About 125 feet away from where I was standing. Yeah, I remember when you very first sent it to me, I was like, I think I know where that's at on the property. I think I've been over that way and where it was actually standing in front of the bushes because in the picture all you see is from about the mouth up. If I stood behind those bushes, you would never see me. My head wouldn't even reach to the top of those bushes. No, I had to stand on a chair and he seemed to be about seven and a half feet tall, which is roughly what the creature in the thermal video that Jonathan and his brother got is. It's about the same height. And then I had some other weird stuff happen.

I had one encounter in, I think it was 2023 or 24. I would have to look at my notes. And this is actually my most favorite encounter I've had with them just because it was so weird and it didn't involve a sighting. But it involved possibly infrasound or something else that they do to stun prey. Some people call it zapped. I don't know, but Jonathan and I were sitting back in the woods behind our house, and we were sitting around the fire.

And we could hear something to the right and something to the left creeping and making sounds, you know, taps, stick breaks, things like that. And every time we'd stop talking, it would stop. And then we would start talking and it would move again. And this went on for over a half hour. And finally I was just done. ready to go inside and it was pitch blackout and Jonathan illuminates the path for me to go back towards the house he's about five to ten feet behind me and when I'm three feet away or I'm sorry

when I'm about six feet away from the tree line I was paralyzed midstep and it was like an electrical feeling that just went through my body And I could talk, but I couldn't move. Like my arm was up midstep, my legs were midstep. And then we could hear it from six feet away from these two oaks that we have. We could hear it run off through the yard. And it was incredible how heavy-footed this thing was. It took about six steps, triggered my chicken coop light, and cleared the backyard.

And since you've been here, I've planted a food forest back there. like there's all sorts of fruit trees, medicinal plants and stuff like that. And the way that this thing navigated through there showed me that they can see clearly at night. Because you would have been running into everything and he just cleared it so fast. And then once he cleared it with those six steps, I was able to move again. But that was really an incredible experience. I had, I'll never forget that. I wish that it would happen again.

Let me ask you, Sarah, what do you make of that electrical feeling that you had, almost like you were stunned? I mean, what do you make of that? I can't explain it. I wish I could explain it. You know, I wish I've read about infrasound, you know, because other creatures can do that. And that's a possibility, but what do you compare it to, you know? It's not like these other creatures that can use infrasound. It's not like they do it to humans.

So we don't have a comparison. But it was very odd. And the other thing is it was directed at me. It didn't do anything to Jonathan. It was just me. When you were hit with that feeling, how far away was Jonathan from you? I think he was about, I would say,

five to ten feet behind me. He was a ways back. Because he was still going to stay outside. He was just lighten up the pathway for me because it was so dark out. Years ago, we had had on our back porch motion lights. So if anything, we'd go back there, it would pop on. And when that light bulb had gone out,

we realized quickly that they were coming in the backyard. And so I never replaced that light. Because, you know, I want them to come back there. I want to have these experiences until something goes south. But ever since then, I've kept that back. light off so it's pitch black in our backyard if there's not a good if there's not good moonlight. Yeah, it makes me wonder about the, you know, the infrasound. You would think that Jonathan being so close to you, he would have been affected by it as well. Makes you wonder what it

was. Do you want me to get into like what I, what I, you know how a lot of people think that they're Nephilim? Do you want me to get into my study about that? Sure. Okay, so, I think it was like 2015 where we took a break, one, because the Bigfoot community can, you know, be a certain way. But also, we weren't sure what they were. I didn't want to mess with something that was, you know, possibly something that you don't want to be messing with. I did a really deep study on that. I took, I just took a Bible and then a Strong's concordance, and a Strong's concordance is it shows you the etymology, you know, of words and things from the Greek and also the Hebrew.

And so I looked into that and it said, the Nephilim are the sons of Anak. And Anak means neck. And so right then I was like, okay, one thing that people say about Sasquatch is they don't have a neck, that they lack a neck. You know, the head just kind of blends into the shoulders. And it also said that the Nephilim wore pendants.

and that they were violent tyrants. And it also compares them to, it compared the people in comparison to the Nephilim to grasshoppers. It said that the people were like grasshoppers. And I was like, okay, you wouldn't say that about a Sasquatch. You would say a Sasquatch is twice the size of a human, you know, two or three times the size of a man. And so I kind of ruled that out in my mind.

And I know a lot of people still hang on to that, but I don't think that's the case. I think that it's some sort of, you know, primitive human or something. I don't know. I don't know if that's interesting to you, but I just kind of found that interesting. Yeah, I find that stuff very interesting. I spent probably a couple of years looking into the Nephilim. And to really understand the Nephilim, you almost have to go outside of the Bible. And I knew that a neck meant long neck.

or I think it even translates as tall. But what you'll find when you really research the Nephilim is they were more like gods and kings than some wild animal out there running around. I mean, you mentioned tyrant. Well, you can't really be a tyrant unless you rule over someone. So I'm not so sure that the Sasquatch are the Nephilim, but there was other weird things going on at that time. there was a lot of, I think it's in Genesis somewhere.

I used to know the passage. I can't think of it off top of my head. These two brothers go out in the field and they have sheep. And Genesis kind of gives you the impression like they ran into these creatures out there, but they don't really describe them. But it's strange. It doesn't sound like they ran into anything normal. Well, a few verses before that, it says they were messing with the DNA of

plants and animals, the Nephilim and the fallen, we're messing with everything on the earth. But if you go into extra texts like Enoch or Jubilee, Jubilee almost has that exact same chapter and verse, but it tells you what they saw. It goes into detail about what these two brothers saw. And it appeared to be some sort of reptilian, had a tale.

I mean, what they're describing, I've never heard of anything on earth like it. And it killed all the sheep. And so I think Sasquatch might be something closer to that more than the actual Nephilim. But are you thinking Sasquatch is some sort of man? You know, I don't want to say what I lean towards to because I really don't know. I feel like these creatures are so unique to themselves. but when I think of all the things they do and the things I've encountered and the hundreds of people that have told us their encounters and stories, there's a human aspect to them.

So I really don't know. And then when I ask tribal members, you know, different tribal members have different views on them. Some don't believe at all. But a lot of them say that they're a type of human, an ancient type of human, a relic hominid, you know, or whatever. But they seem to have been here so long. Like even, have you ever seen that Bigfoot that was painted in the Sistine Chapel? I don't think that I have. Somebody just told me about this the other day and I looked it up and sure enough, on the Sistine Chapel, it's called, it's on the altar wall that Michelangelo painted.

It's called Judgment Day, I believe. And there's Sasquatch in a cave. And it's very clear that it's a Sasquatch. So I think that these these things go back for so long, longer than we realize. So that's what makes me think that maybe it's a primitive type human. But also, I'm not against what you're saying,

some sort of creation, some sort of mixing. Because there's also something very ape-like about them. Yeah, I agree. I think that there is a human aspect to them. There's a lot of accounts where I think, man, that sounds like something a human would do. rather than an animal. And there's also other cases where a Sasquatch will rush someone,

like what you would expect a gorilla to do, and then it stops. And you wonder why it stopped. And then when you throw in all of the weird things that go on in people's encounters that eyewitnesses report, you know, like the mindspeak or glowing eyes or it vanishing, which all sounds like nonsense until you, you experience it. I'm not so sure about the relic hominid. I would like it to be that, but I got a lot of

questions. And Sarah, on your property, I've always wanted to ask you after all of these years, did you ever find out kind of where they hang out, kind of like where they stay on the property? So we're the pinch point to some valuable resources. Our property is. I don't think that they're always here. But I do think that they're always close by within a few miles, let's say. And there's one area. Okay, do you remember where you and your brother saw something through thermal? You guys were standing on the ridge and looking out into the valley. Oh yeah. I've talked about that many times on the show. We were actually in the, um, that platform in the trees that Jonathan had built. Yeah. Yeah. That's on the ridge.

Yeah, I remember that night. I was unarmed. I had the thermal. Jonathan had an AR-15. Woody had an AR-15. When they wanted to go follow this thing out in the field, I remember well, I was unarmed. So towards that way, towards the end,

there's this area that is like super, super creepy. Like even my kids will tell you that there's just a certain feeling that you get when you go towards that area. And then one of the tribal members told me that there's caves somewhere nearby. I would like to, I would like to explore that area sometime, but I just get so creeped out going over there. We found some bones, some elk bones and some deer bones over there. And, you know, that could be anything. But there's just a feeling sometimes that you get when they're around and that's one area that I feel is like an absolute no-go zone. If you want to come over

some time and go over there with us, you're more than welcome. But I think that that's a spot. And then I also think, remember all the weird stuff you guys had happened at the tribal barn? Oh, yeah. I think that that also, that area. And again, we're the pinch point to that area. But I think that spot is just, is just gold. I don't know if I told you about this before, but there's a cattle farmer that rents out multiple pastures on the reservation. And we don't have cows back here anymore, but we used to, you know. And six months out of the year, they would be here, and then they would be removed before it would

flood. But he was over there one day with his nephew, and they could hear it talking. They could hear the big one talking. I've sent you recordings of that before that deep, growly voice. You can't make out what they're saying. They heard that live and they could not see it. And they looked everywhere and searched everywhere and they couldn't see it. But he said that it sounded like it was talking at them.

His nephew said that he would never go back over there. But that's a super weird spot. I mean, you and Shannon and a group saw that weird light over there and then something smacked the side of the barn. Yeah, you know, thinking back on it, that area does have kind of a creepy vibe. We did see the light and it wasn't a smack on the barn. Jonathan and I were like a foot or two away from each other and we were talking and whatever it was it hit the barn between us. We were right next to it. I about fell out of my, I about fell on my butt

out of my skin because it shocked me so much. But it wasn't a slap. It would be like if I took a very, very large truck and ran it into that building going about 80 miles an hour. That's the kind of noise it made. And it shocked me. I remember Jonathan and I were both like eyes as big as saucers. And it was right after we saw that light. Have ever seen lights again on that property? I've seen lights before. Yeah. I saw a light that was like maybe this maybe a little smaller than a basketball and it was green and it had like this yellow comet tail like this wavy tail off of it and it was right above the tree line it was going from north to south and it i don't know how to explain this but it was almost like it was almost like it was looking for something the way it was

moving it wasn't just floating it seemed like it was sentient you know it was super weird but it was right over the trees, and we've got second growth doug firs here, so however tall those are right above the trees. And then I've also seen, I saw this orange ball one time. This was probably 2013 or 14. It was more plasma looking,

and it seemed like it was trying to expand, and then it just disappeared. It just shrunk down to nothing in a flash. That was weird, too. At that same night I heard what sounded like a Native American woman singing And the singing came floating towards me But there was no figure It sounded like a human with a beautiful voice

Singing in a native tongue And it was coming towards me but there was no figure It brought tears to my eyes because it was so overwhelming Yeah, that's really strange So you were hearing the singing the same time you were seeing the lights Not at the same time, but the same night. I believe I saw the light first, a while before. And I was standing right on my front porch for both of them.

How many times do you think you've seen the lights out there on your property? Well, I saw that orange plasma ball, and then I saw the green one. And then the only other lights I've seen are what appear to be eyes, white glowing eyes, you know, that just look like tiny little... Christmas lights, you know, small little eyes. There's been times where we've been outside, and I haven't seen this in years, but it seems like Sasquatch activity, though it could be something else. You know, you hear the stick breaking, the creeping, and from, you know, about 100 to 120 feet away from different trees, see little, they look like stars almost. That's the best way to put it.

that would peek out. But there would be multiple. It wasn't just one set. It would be multiple sets of eyes. I've only seen red eyes one time. The red ones were glowing. Nobody will ever gaslight me and tell me that that was a reflection

because they were glowing. Yeah, I'm convinced that their eyes glow. I've heard way too many eyewitnesses report that to me. And it's weird because that's not really how the eyeball works. What do you make of the glowing eyes? This particular night, there was what sounded like a group was across the street, hooting and hollering and banging on trees, whooping on trees. And then there was one to the east side of our property that was howling

and responding back with tree knocking and stuff. And I came outside and I caught the eyes out of my parade. feel and looked over and I saw it walk down the tree line the same tree line where I got the daylight photo and I saw both eyes blink as it walked but it seemed to be accompanied by you know anger like a certain behavior because I've never seen it since and I've heard also I've heard other people say that the red eyes they saw while the Sasquatch was chasing a deer or hunting or whatever or also an angry situation, a more volatile behavior. So I don't know if it has to do with mood or what,

but I've heard too many reports of it to deny that it comes with some sort of behavior, whereas the white glowing seems to be more of just checking things out. Yeah, I've heard other researchers say that. They kind of have that theory that the eyes will change color based on their behavior, red being mad. But it's almost like they're describing a lava lamp more than they are a non-human primate or even a human primate at that point. And I remember one guy I asked him, I said, and he was a hunter for many years, and he was describing these glowing eyes. And I said, you sure that is an eye shine?

You sure you didn't see eyes shine? And he had made the comment to me that it was like Christmas lights. These eyes were glowing. And like I said, the eyes don't work that way. If your eyes produce lights, you'd be blind. I can't think of any other non-human primate or human primate that can do that. Or anything, or any creature for that matter. The way that I describe that, though, I like to use a comparison to an octopus.

I was talking to this old man at a conference here one time years ago. And he also lived on the same river as us, but further away, who's about 45 minutes away from us. And he had experienced the glowing eyes, and he said, you know, if an octopus was not discovered, and I were to come to you and tell you about this creature and what its abilities, the way that it can fit in a jar and crawl outside of an aquarium, into another aquarium, and then go in front of a coral, and its skin will change to that coral. and then it will go to another coral, and its skin will change to that coral.

It will even grow the bumps. You would say no way, no other creature on earth can do that. That sounds supernatural. And so with a Sasquatch, it could be something that's just unique to them, something that we don't understand, because if we don't have a comparison of another creature that does that, how can we find out what the scientific method is for it? but nobody would believe you if you described an octopus to them nobody would believe you it would

sound nuts yeah but i think when you're comparing an octopus to a saskatch you know that octopus is a vertebrae it has three hearts it has blue blood it's not really a fair comparison as unique as an octopus is what i mean does that make sense it does make sense and i understand what you're It's kind of an illustration. And a lot of the weird stuff bothers me. You know, my encounter, nothing weird happened. I mean, don't get me wrong. It was weird.

But there was no eye glow. There was no mind speak. Nothing vanished. And I used to think when people report mindspeak, it must only be from crazy people. But it gets reported a lot. And it bothers me. Because, you know, we're talking about comparisons.

when you think of mindspeak, where else do you hear that? You hear it in demonic encounters. You hear it in quote unquote alien encounters. And I've heard it in Sasquatch encounters, many Sasquatch encounters. And people might hear that and go, well, that's crazy. Well, there's about a thousand people I can bring to you that would disagree with that statement. But they do a lot of things that you wouldn't find any other primate doing. You know, the spider crawl.

I can't think of very many primates. that could pull that off. But when you compare like Mindspeak, you won't go to the zoo and have a chimp, mindspeak with you. You won't go have a guerrilla mind speak with you. But in Sasquatch encounters, it happens. And I'm not sure what to make of it. What if we have the ability to do a lot of the things that we do, but we're so bombarded by technology, you know, radiation, Wi-Fi, poisonous food,

fluoridated water? What if we could do some of the stuff they do and we just have forgotten how to tap into that? Yeah, I guess I'm a little bit of a hypocrite because I used to think even remote viewing was absolute nonsense until I looked into it and kind of put my bias aside and gave it an honest look. And I'm convinced it absolutely as an ability probably everyone has. I mean, even the CIA funds remote viewers. They claim they don't do it today, but I don't buy that for a second. Oh, I should tell you another story. So fireworks last year, even though I'm not tribal, I still get to sell fireworks.

I get to take part in most of the tribal things. I just can't go to the annual meeting every year. But during fireworks 2025, one of the tribal members, matriarchs is a firework vendor. You know, they have their own brand of fireworks that they sell. And she was telling me tribal stories for over an hour. It was incredible her stories. If I could make a video just on her, it would just be incredible.

She told me that her cousin, he also passed away a few years ago. He's our closest neighbor, his home. He was intoxicated one time. And he wasn't allowed to go home if he was intoxicated. And he was in the valley behind our home, kind of by the tribal barn, a few hundred feet away from the tribal barn. And they were messing with him so bad that he dug a hole and hid in it for the rest of the night. Can you imagine? Yeah, I can't imagine that. I can imagine that a lot. It would seem like something I would do. I mean, they do strike the fear in you. Jonathan had talked about this little one that you guys

had been seeing and even your neighbors had seen, tell me about that. So this little one has been seen by our neighbor. Her daughter saw on the roof and she saw on the roof. I saw on our roof last April and her daughter saw on the roof in June. And then another neighbor that's a couple miles away from us as the crow flies. We interviewed him, I believe last year, maybe it was late 2024, but he had someone visiting and they also saw the little one. So we were on the phone. We were in our gazebo talking on the phone with someone and I was going inside. Again, it was a very, very dark night. And when I was about, I'm looking at my backyard right now, when I was a about 10 feet away from my back door. Out of the corner, I saw the silhouette of this thing on the

very edge of my roof. And it was doing a Slav squat. And its legs were bent, you know, just like the Slav squat, its knees were bent, and its arms appeared to be between its legs holding onto the edge of the roof. And I didn't see a neck. It was. very triangular up top. I don't know if it's the muscle or what that does that that gives them the appearance of not having a neck, but it just very triangular looking with a rounded head but not a cone head. And it didn't move. It didn't move. It would not even budge and it freaked me out so bad that I went inside and I cried about it because it freaked me out so bad. And I wondered if it was looking in the skylight because we have curtains and blinds all over our house you can't see in at

night but that skylight that's right into our living room and then that tribal member that i was telling you about whose daughter saw one same thing with their house they also have skylights that that sighting really messed with me like i'm surprised that i can talk about it so freely now i had called david ellis uh right after it had happened not that night but i think the next day and uh i was very emotional about it, telling him about it. And I said, that's not something I ever want to talk about with people because it made me so uncomfortable. And he's like, you got to get to the point where you can share that because it's part of the story. And it also shows, you know, that they do breed. There's a breeding population. So that's that encounter. And again,

two neighbors reporting the same thing. How big was that creature, Sarah? So I saw again kneeling. So not including its legs, I would say it was about two to two and a half feet tall. So with legs, you're talking three, four feet. And I think that that's the same little punk that clears my fruit trees. Because I have so many fruit trees in my yard. And for the last few years, I've been monitoring my sweetheart cherry tree. this thing is now, I would say, 22 feet tall.

Something comes in overnight right before harvest time. It's never at harvest. It's right before, and they'll wipe this thing out. And I just don't know what else could get up that tree without breaking more branches. This year, I have video of it. I have video of it this year and last year because I would go out every day and monitor. And this year, a broken branch was hanging down. when I went outside.

And I look up, sure enough, every single cherry gone. When this thing will get up on the roof and you guys are inside, do you hear it running across the roof? We've heard things on the roof, but I don't know what it is. You know, it didn't sound necessarily bipedal, but you'd hear thumps up there. You know, I had another weird situation with, we have second growth Douglas firs on our property.

And there's a few of them. Some people call them twin trees, you know, where like when it was younger, it broke or got cut off. And so then it splits into two. Well, one of these Douglas fir trees, looking at it right now, the split is, I would say, 18 feet off the ground, 18 or 19 feet off the ground. And Jonathan and I are out here, I think this was 2015, 2016, 2016. And we're looking up at it. And I was like, look at all of that sap, that Douglas firs sap. I mean, that stuff's gold in the medicinal world, you know.

You can do so much with that. Enough to fill a boot shoebox. And I'm pointing up at this sap to him, and I said, we need to call Dan. Dan's one of the tribal members that's kind of into, you know, the plant medicine and stuff. And I said, we need to call Dan and have them come harvest that. That stuff's gold. The next day it was gone. The whole thing, every bit of it was gone.

How did they know we were going to harvest that? You know? Were they watching me talk about it? Yeah, that is odd. You know, when I was on your property, and I know you have hours and hours and hours of recordings of these creatures. One time I was out there on the property, and I think I was with Jonathan or maybe his brother,

and we were kind of over by that river. next to your guys' home. And I heard a train, but the train sound came from the west. The train is actually in the opposite direction. It's east of us. And it sounded like a train, but it was a little bit, I mean, not a little bit, it was weird. It didn't quite sound like a train. But have you heard any other vocalizations that have surprised you?

I know you've heard a lot of weird, and you've recorded a lot of weird ones. Surprise me. I wouldn't say that have surprised me, no. There's always weird. There's mimicry for sure. I mean, we've heard a perfect ambulance when there was no ambulance and it was in the forest, you know, walking parallel to our property. We've heard our names and our, my daughters just last fall,

my daughters came inside. They were out riding the quad and they heard me yelling for them from the forest. And I wasn't there. but they said that it was my voice. So there's always weird, always weird stuff. A lot of, I think that they mimic a lot and I think that's how they stay so concealed as they communicate by impersonating other things. A couple nights ago, so usually we don't have any activity in August, probably because the creek is dried up. And I've gotten some audio in August, but it's distant vocals, very distant vocals, not clear.

But last week, we had some crazy stuff happen very close to our house. My middle daughter, who all of my kids are very aware of Sasquatch. Two of the three have seen it. But they're not into it. They don't, you got to catch them on a good day. You got to make them feel comfortable for them to tell you stories, you know, or their experiences. is my middle daughter does not like telling us when she hears them. But she came in the house, or she was in the house.

She came in my room the other night and woke me up and said that there was heavy breathing and loud footsteps outside of the window. And she goes, it was like a man, but a weird man. And I know you're protective of your kids like Mama Bear, but how do you feel when your kid tells you that, especially in the middle of the night. If I thought that I'm not saying all Sasquatch are good or not dangerous. However, when I'm just speaking of the ones here,

they could have snapped my neck a hundred times over. They could have made me or any of my kids disappear. Like my kids ride the quad, you know, down the walnut grove, down by the barn. and we never had anything happen that that made me scared or made me worried. So speaking for this group only, I'm not, I have a healthy fear of them because, you know, it's a wild creature. But I wouldn't say that I'm scared of them. I'm not scared for my life and I'm not scared for my kid's life.

Yeah, being that I've been out to your property so many times, I kind of understand where you're coming from. I think for me, like the male brain is, you know, my kid tells me that I'm going to go outside and start shooting. I think you have a much more healthier attitude towards it. And you're right, they could have heard anyone there. Every time I've been on your property, I've never really had any fear. I never really felt like I was being threatened. So I kind of get where you're coming from.

I've only felt extremely threatened one time. and that was back in 2014. I was down by the creek and I was actually within 30 feet of where I saw one in 2024. Was that 2025? But I was down there. It was broad daylight. And first of all, it started with a stellar jay going nuts.

And so I was paying attention to that. What is this bird going nuts for? And then knocking started. all around me, knocking across the field, knocking to my left, knocking to my right, knocking close by, knocking far away. And it was becoming more and more frantic. And I was, the sense of dread, that primal fear that I was getting was becoming more and more intense and more. It was so overwhelming. And I ran out into the field from the tree line. And the minute I did that, it all stopped. And I went home in tears to John about.

that something was stalking me. And I don't know what it was. I don't know what it was, but I felt like I was being warned. I felt like something was telling me to get out of there with all the knocking. Yeah, kind of, I kind of got chills when he said that. I experienced that one time in Texas, it wasn't knocking, it was screaming, but I couldn't really tell you where it was coming from. It seemed like it was like all around me, but I couldn't nail down where it was coming from. And I kind of had that same fear you're talking about where I was like, I'm out of here. And I know you guys have a YouTube channel, Sahelish Sasquatch, and I'll include a link. I post your guys' videos all the time. I think you guys do a really cool job at putting together

these videos. And for the audience, you go out and interview eyewitnesses at the location and have them kind of recount what happened. There's also some really cool audio up there that I know you've recorded, Sarah. But out of all the eyewitnesses you've interviewed, is there one that kind of stays with you? Almost definitely. My friend Marcus. So if people go to the drone incident video, my friend Marcus, I met him through one of my best friends, my friend Steve Edwards. And Steve was going to go on a bigfoot what do you call it? I don't want to say it wasn't an expedition, but it was a camp out, you know,

and his wife had bought him tickets, his wife got sick, so he asked Marcus, Marcus 100% not a believer, and he went on this camp out, and unfortunately the equipment failed, which we all know happens in big footing. The drone operator thought he was filming. Everybody thought he was filming, and for whatever reason, he wasn't, the file wasn't there.

so I don't I don't fault him but Marcus first was looking on the guy's screen and watching the drone follow these these creatures mass one of them was just massive and he's not really understanding what he's seeing even though he can see legs he can see toes he can see everything he can see that it's dwarfing the guy that's trying to foolishly chase chase it you know and everybody had kind of gone away after this. The drone, the battery was dying, so it was going back to home base. Everybody was frustrated with each other because the guy that had chased it, you know, they were mad at him. And he's standing there saying,

it's right there, this is right before dark, it's right there, you know, I had seen it on the screen, it's got to be right up here in the woods and they're blowing Marcus off. And then Marcus saw it. He just turned. He felt like something was watching.

and he turned and it was there. And at first he thought it was one of them in a costume. And then he was just like, this has to be real. This thing's too freaking huge. And so he said, okay, if this thing is real, I need to take in every, I need to remember every detail of it. And his encounters on there. And he actually breaks down while we were filming him as he talks about it.

It's incredible. He's just an incredible guy, but his encounter will forever stay with me. It's body language that you can't ignore. And yeah, definitely Marcus, the drone incident on Salish Sasquatch. Yeah, and I'll play a clip from that video that you posted. Again, for the audience, Salas Sasquatch, definitely go subscribe. And this is a little bit longer of a clip than I would normally play. but I thought it was so cool that you got everyone's perspective on what they were doing

and then you kind of end on Marcus. The clip isn't the whole video. I'll post the whole video underneath this episode. But let's take a listen. This is a place that we had camped probably about 50 nights or so in total, not consecutively, but over the years. And there's been a lot of activity from this area, specifically, just about a half mile down here on one of our videos it's called the Cascades

encounter that's where that whole encounter took place and just down the road here is where Scott Taylor took the report of the night watchman I mean all of this is like within a half mile it's produced significant activity over the years so it was March 26th of 2022 there was about 12 to 14 of us that were having a camp out here in this quarry and there was two trailers that were in an L shape there was one right here and then there was another one going this way we had a fire going everybody was eating food and having drinks and then uh i was i was just walking around talking with people and then one of the guys that was with us he uh was sitting right over here and uh he's sitting right over here and uh he's sitting

sitting right here and he goes, uh, Jonathan, I need you to come over here real quick to make sure that I'm not going crazy. And I was like, what's going on? And he goes, as I'm sitting here, I keep hearing something above me. And every time I turn, there's nothing there, but I've heard like rocks moving. and I didn't hear any of that, but I'm just sitting by him. And then all of a sudden from across the road over here, we start hearing rock clacking. It's going for minutes. I mentioned to him at this point, because him and I are the only ones that are hearing it, we're set off a little bit from the rest of the people who are laughing, talking, just carrying away.

and for them the noise is being blocked by the trailer that's parked right there and the rock clacking keeps going off for at least five minutes and I tell them I go the only thing is like once we once we tell everybody here at the group what's going on everybody's body language is going to change it's going to be chaotic so how do we get around that and we're just talking quietly to each other at the time and then we came to the conclusion that there's no way of avoiding that people are going to be looking around scurrying, trying to get their gear and everything like that.

And so that's when he told the guy who had a thermal drone. He goes, all right, get your drone out and look over there. And then the guy who's, he got his drone out, he starts flying it over there. And just as predicted, everybody starts scurrying around. And it was chaotic for minutes. And the guy who's flying the drone was like, the only thing is, I'm not seeing it. anything that's over there. And then he goes, okay, well, look behind me. And then the drone flies over. And on the other side of over here, there's a bunch of alders. And he goes, well, actually,

there's something really big that's standing up by one of the alders. And he's like, Jonathan, come look at this. And I go over and look at the thermal drone monitor, and you're looking at it from above. So you're just seeing something. that's stationary from above right next to an alder. It wasn't that impressive, but it was very large. And then the same guy who had heard the scurion going on, he goes, well, I'm going to go down, I'm going to start heading down the road and see what I can hear. So were you and Steve together at this point?

No, no. I was with the other gentleman that John's then was talking to. we were sitting right here. I was sitting exactly in this position, not on this rock, because these rocks have changed since then. And as I'm sitting here, we're talking, we're eating. They had a campfire down there,

and I could hear little rocks, but I just thought it was natural from the rock corby, and I got so many rocks in this area. And they're coming directly behind me, directly right up there, which is only about not even 20 feet away. and then I get up to get something to eat. I see Jonathan walk over because the other gentleman asked him to come over.

They started talking. And I'm wondering what's going on because I don't really know anybody at this point. And I see Jonathan get up and he's got the serious look on his face. He walks towards a trailer where this gentleman had a drone. And next thing I know that he's starting to drone up, I'm thinking to myself, what's he doing? This is the middle of the daytime. I thought these were night vision drones.

And he sets it, goes straight up in the air and goes about 80, 90 feet straight up in the air, and you see the camera on it, and it zoom straight down. And then I hear him go, I don't know what he said. It was two or three, but he says, oh, my God, there's two or three of them. And I look back, and you see them, something, all I see is look like, hands push away and go back behind the rock over there. And then the drone says up in the air and it starts going that direction. So at that point, I got up and I think all of a sudden panic just went through everybody

because at that point when you said that, everybody just lit up. Something was going on. We didn't know what. I didn't know who to follow what was going on or what they were supposedly a Bigfoot. So I just followed the group. And I went down to the guy who had the drone, and I stayed to his, on his, would be his right shoulder. And I looked over the whole time at the drone. He was following this thing, whatever he was following.

And I remember a couple, two, three people asking him, are you recording? Are you recording? He's going, yeah, I'm recording. I'm recording. So that's what happened at that point. And then from that point, the story relocates because we moved at that point to go down to follow the drone to see what was happening. And can you fill in everybody watching on your background in Bigfoot?

Like when you showed up at this event, it was kind of a random invite by Steve, and you had no clue that Sasquatch existed, correct? I didn't believe in Bigfoot. I didn't. I came along because it was an adventure for me to go camping and to meet new people camping. And I always thought, well, camping in numbers is always safer anyway. So that was the reason why I came out. They had asked me if I believed in Bigfoot.

I told him, you know, I'll be a skeptic, and maybe I'll leave as a believer. I don't know. But, you know, I'd like to think maybe there's something here, but I don't know. And so that was my whole attitude to begin with because I was hearing stories. And they were just stories to me because that's all they were. And I just thought, okay, well, these people believe in what they say. or whatever, okay, you know, more power to them. But I was just happy that we were out camping.

We started walking this way. We came out this way. At this point, everybody started just leaving. They started, some people were running, some people were walking, and someone said, don't run, don't run, don't, just slow down. So we walk, we go down to this logging road down here, and we started following it down to the left. and at that point, by the time I got there, I saw an individual who was running down there.

And when he was running down there, we were following the drone and the camera. Like I said, we were looking over the drone operator's shoulder as he was looking at his screen. And it went over the trees and went all the way down and we followed it and followed it. after the gentleman that I was sitting by that, it made me aware of the rock clacking. He goes down the road, as I was saying. And then he radios over, and he goes, Jonathan, come down this way.

There's at least two Sasquatches down by the creek. And so I'm scurrying to go get my phone because it was charging at the time and everybody else is getting their stuff. And when I start walking down the road right here, that's when there's these two power knocks. I mean, it sounded like they were so loud, it sounded like two gunshots,

but it wasn't gunshots. It was just, boom, boom, just two big cracks. And as I had mentioned before, when the drone pilot went over this way, he saw one stationary by the alder trees, but as everybody starts going down the road and those two power knocks go off,

everybody just kind of forgot about what the individual that's over here and started going towards the loud noise and this area was just abandoned everybody goes down by the creek and looking back at it in hindsight that was really stupid of us because if we would have just stayed where we are instead of listening going after you know what was making all the noise there's a good chance that we could have gotten a couple different perspectives of the saskwatch on thermal because it wouldn't take much to surround this area over here because there's another road behind there. So I was sitting on a log right here and our fire pit is right in front of me. And I see Marcus and everybody grouped around me and John. And our other friend was, they were talking and they go and tell the drone operator to come and bring his drone out.

He brings it up and I'm watching this from over here. and I noticed he says at one point he's up it's up in the area he's like holy crows holy crow there's like three of them and I'm like what from what I'm witnessing is people are getting excited and I'm hearing him relay what he's seeing and he's like there's three of them and they're over over there and then at one point they I think it looked like a I believe a family of a male female and possibly a smaller one and the two the probably two smaller ones they dipped out and they went one way and i witnessed everybody saying that the huge male or whatever the large one was cross on the road and at that point it's literally right around the corner we're hoping we're going

to see a crossing on the road and we get up including myself and i make a dash for the road to see if we could catch this thing and that's when chaos broke out and we went that way. Okay, so now at this point, chaos is broken. Everybody knows something's going on and we're trying to catch us thing. So we're running this way, approaching the road. And I look down this way and it curves and I'm like, no, we can't see anything from where it was crossing so we had to keep going and a group of us most of us a couple of the ladies stayed back but we most of the guys ran down here the group and we're trying to catch this thing walk by and we we get there I get there too late I don't see anything but the whole time we're are monitoring the movement with the drone.

The drone operator has the drone following these objects, and based on what he's saying, you guys are following the, the Sasquatch. Yeah, I stayed with the drone operator. A couple of us did. What were some of the details you saw? Well, the details.

So I wasn't looking at the screen the entire time. One person was on one side. Marcus was on the other and I was trying to jump over shoulders to get a look. At one point Marcus took off and he tried to see up the hill to see what we could see physically and I went in there and I'm looking at the monitor and what I'm witnessing is I'm seeing this thing standing there right next to a tree and it is the drones that right above and I'm seeing the left side in the back at that angle, the whole thing. And I see this giant arm on the side, and it's not straight down.

It's resting at an angle, kind of like this. And I see the body, and it's huge. It's very thick and very wide, and it was very symmetrical, almost like the best way I can describe it is seeing a refrigerator standing there next, place right next to a tree. It was that symmetrical and width and depth. And then I saw the head on top. But the body was so something that I was not used to see, and I've never seen anything like that. And it was impressive, very impressive, very huge.

And Marcus, didn't you see, at one point, didn't you see some legs as it walked? The camera's pointing down, and in the screen you could see this thing, big, huge thing, walking. and the detail was so good on the camera as it's walking the gentleman on the other side of him says look at the size of those legs I'm looking at the legs and they were

almost the size of my trunk of my body and then he says and then I'm looking at this thing in the screen again and I'm realizing I can see the toes of this thing as it's walking the detail was incredible I can see the toes as it's walking on the screen and the gentleman on the inside of the drawing at the exact same time said, oh my, look at the toes. You can see the toes. And at that point, I look back up, I see the drone and it's going. And I see another guy running down that way now.

And we're right about to where we were when the gentleman that was down there by that yellow gate, he'd beeline to the right and went up. And as he goes up, I look at the drone, the camera. And now I see two bodies. I see a red dot and I think it was a green dot. One of the dots was the gentleman running up the end of the hill. The other dot was over the creature. And I'm thinking to myself, this is a great show. This is really a cool show.

I can't believe these guys are doing this because this can't, this is so cool, This is, I mean, I can't believe. They're putting on such a good show for me. And I'm thinking, okay, well, I'll go along with it. We'll see what's happening here. But at the same time, I was kind of confused because all these men, grown men, who I knew some of these guys were track specialists who follow footprints. You've got people here who understand the trees and the woods and the sounds

and all the different things, all these different experts at their fields out here. And they're all acting like kids, crazy kids. kids screaming and yelling. And so I just couldn't put two together at this side, okay, well, let's just see where this whole thing goes. So I went down there to follow them and see what was happening. And so at that point, that's all there was. And so I just followed and went to the point where we were out there. And that's when we caught up the drone, we caught up with the drone and the guy that was in the woods. Right about here in this location is when the drone operator myself and our other guy that was with us. Marcus, we stayed right here. And our other buddy is up there

in the hillside trying to chase this thing. And I remember standing here. And at one point, I could see the screen. And I remember seeing our guy up there on the hill. We could see him. And then we could also see this other thing. And there was a major, major size difference from what he was. And he's, I don't know how tall he is, 510, maybe. 5, 9, 5, 9, 510, average height guy. But this thing was on the thermal from as high up as that drone was, you could see it was a massive size difference. It was shocking. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. But in myself, this was my first experience of having anything like this. And I'm thinking, is this really going on?

Is this how it goes down? I was in a very surreal state of mind. I wasn't sure what was going on, but I was rolling with it. I just regret not watching so much more, but I was willing to hopefully watch the replay that didn't happen. But what I saw was really, really fascinating and something that you definitely don't see every day. At this point by this gate is when the drone operator and I were here,

I could see the trees are about 60 feet in the air, and the drone was easily about 90 feet above that. And you could see it going over, and as I'm watching in the camera, I can see both the gentleman who was chasing the big foot and the big foot. And they were, from where I was, we were set up almost a perfect triangle of where they were. And I'm yelling at the guy,

go up a little further, go up a little further. He goes up, and I'm looking down and go, okay, he's over to your left. He's over to your left. And he's looking and he says, I don't see him. I don't see him. I says he's right over there to the left. As he's doing this, I see this big, huge thing. It was so huge and wide that it walked over, went behind the tree. He didn't behind the tree, but it was so big that in comparison, it was standing behind the tree holding onto it.

And in its arms, the wide was so wide, it looked like the tree was like this on it. and then it stayed there for about, oh, I don't know, 15, 20 seconds, and then it pushed off the tree. You could see the feet again, the toes, and you could see how big the legs were. It walked over about four steps, stood behind another tree, and hid behind it again. And I'm telling the guy, go to your left, go to your left, you're not far from it. And he goes, I don't see it, I don't see it. And at that point, I see the drone, and it starts going back this way,

I go to the jury operator, I go, what are you doing? He says, the battery's going dead. I says, well, what's it doing? He says, it's going back to home base. I said, no. I said, they're both right there. He goes, it's going back. So at that point, he started leaving.

He started going back. This guy was still up there. I came over to this area. I wanted to try to get a better look because I could see where he is. And I knew about where I saw that crew. I don't know why people call it a bigfoot, but that's another story. I came over to, oh, the terrain has changed a lot here. Oh, I was right over here.

I came over here because it was over in this area someplace. And I couldn't see it. I couldn't see it at all, but I knew it was in this area. And then all of a sudden, I see people scattering. People going back up to the trail there. I see people running this way now. I hear someone go, we're going to the creek, we're going to the creek. and I didn't know there was a creek down this way.

I see three, four guys run in that direction. And then I see two or three more guys go down this driveway or this hill. And I don't know what everybody's doing. And I don't really know anybody. And I don't know where I'm supposed to go, who I'm supposed to follow. What are we doing? I don't know. So I just stayed here.

I hear them screaming up there and this guy's coming down. He's all sweating his coats off. and he's just all torn apart from running in the bushes. I'm standing here, and all of a sudden, everybody's gone, and I realize I'm by myself. So I decided, okay, well, I'll just stay here because I don't know where, what to do. And as I'm looking around, waiting around,

you know, this went on for watching the drone come down this way, by the way. This whole process from the moment we saw it up at the rock corridor to here was probably about three minutes in the, on the screen of the drone. So I'm thinking I'm going to go down and put out of the creek and help these guys. So I started walking down this way and then see the guys come back up running this way. I stand here and I look and I felt something. I didn't know what it was. I look up and there he was.

That was what I still thought at the time. Sorry about this. At the time I still thought it was. a person in a maybe a costume or something, but he was big. He was huge. He stood there, he just stood there and stared. I stared at him, we looked at each other. And I thought, okay, if this is real,

I better get this burns in my mind. So I'm watching him. Trying to see his face, which I could see. It didn't look like a gorilla, because I understood a big, look like gorilla. It didn't look like that. It looked, it almost looked human. It had this much of nose. It had the big eyes, deep brow. I didn't, the head shape was more rounded. He didn't look like a gorilla head shape to me at all. His eyes were very piercing. They look wild. They look wild

like if I come down, I can just rip you apart in a heartbeat. And I'm looking at here. him and I could see how wide he was. And I could see, I couldn't see the bottom of his arms because the fur, the ferns up there, his arms hanged down further than the ferns. And, and we just stared at each other for a good 30 seconds. And I'm looking at him going, is he trying to memorize my face? Is he looking into my mind? What is he doing?

What's he doing with me? What's my, what are we doing here? And all of a sudden, all of a sudden, I felt like someone was behind me. So I turned real quick, and this is about how quick I turned. I went like this, look back, and I looked back this way. And at that point, I saw him, I'm standing at an attention-type stance to turning to my right, which would be his left. And he turned down and went sideways and went to the ground. And that's when I could see how thick he was.

And he was probably easily three feet thick. And at this distance, and from what I could see, it was probably about, again, about, I don't know, between, I don't know what that is, between 80 to 120 feet away from me. But I could see that he turned and went down and disappeared. And I realized, okay, this doesn't not look right. And he started crawling. And I could see him, I could see the fern starting to move.

move and he's starting to come down, not straight across, he's starting to come down at an angle and he's starting to go back this direction. And as he's coming by, I see the guy who was first chasing the Bigfoot. I don't know when it happened, but he had gotten ahead of me and he just come back this way and I told him, I said, hey, he's moving right up there. And he goes, yeah, okay, sure. And I thought, okay, well, I don't know who these guys are anyway, so whatever. And then I think I was kind of stunned because I still didn't know what to do. And then all of a sudden I see Jonathan and he's walking by me and he's got his head down and he's like this. And I go, it's it's right over there now.

Moving in the in the woods. He goes, yeah. And he blew me off too. And I thought, okay, well, I don't know what the protocol is. So at that point, I thought, well, now what do I do? So then I thought, well, I guess I better go back to camp. So I started walking back to camp. As I'm starting to walk back to camp, I see it's going down this direction.

It's only about, as I'm coming up this way, I get up to, by the time I get up to just about to the gate again, I see Steve walking down, and it's coming across right by Steve. And I go, did you see that? Did you see that? He goes, yeah, I know, I can't believe we saw that. And I thought, oh, my God, I can't believe we both saw this thing. Is it real? And we were just all excited because we didn't know what to do at that point. Then we went back in the camp, and I see everybody arguing and screaming and yelling at that point.

And I think I went in a shock because I didn't know if it was real or not. And I don't remember coming home that night, or if we came home that night or spent the night and then went home the next day, I went totally blank. And I didn't, I believed I saw something, but I wasn't sure. And to give you an idea how big it was, I figure on 5'7, And I figure if I stood next to this thing, I probably came up to about here on it. So I don't know how tall it would be, eight, nine, ten feet. I don't know. But anyways, I was walking out this way. That's when I saw Steve.

That's when we thought we saw what we saw. Can you go into detail a little bit more about its face? I remember you saying something about its bangs. The hair on top was cut pretty much straight. It had hair here. The nose was mushed. It had kind of like a yellowish eyes. The looks were human, absolutely human.

And what I thought about this later on is I'm thinking, it's got people up there, it's got people back there, it's got people up there on the side, and it still came back to me. And what we realized later, what I was told, is it probably came out to see me on purpose because... Distraction. Distraction because the baby and the mother and a few were rocking behind me

were walking, crossing the road behind me. So he was standing there. to get my attention so I wouldn't look back to see them. It's really cool to kind of see the area and you're right when you, I know it's audio, it's a podcast, but when you watch this guy, your heart goes out to them. I have two favorite interviews on my channel and that's one of them. Also, I want to ask while we're on, if you would come back out to our property again sometime this fall.

Yeah, I would absolutely love to come out and see you guys again. Okay. Well, now your audience is going to hold you to it. No, I would love to come out and see you guys again. I've always enjoyed going out there. You guys treat a bum like me really well. I miss you guys. I would love to come out and see you guys again. But Sarah, it's been too long. Thank you so much for coming on. Thank you. And thank you for having me on again. And that's it for tonight, everyone.

Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at saskatchpronicals.com. Until next time, everyone. You deal, close at the sky, memories of you deal. Later, whiteer, must be a little wiser, lighter, D'iard, and my sky, of you sky.