Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:1301 The Members Encounters

Episode Date: October 24, 2026

David writes "Wes, For a little while, I worked part-time at a cancer center for a commercial cleaning company to pay off a credit card. I cleaned the majority of the facility, while my partner cleane...d the remainder. As a result, I worked the last hour or so alone. One evening, I had to take some trash outside while my coworker was vacuuming the front lobby. As I was walking back toward the building, I saw someone sitting on a couch in the front lobby. The person appeared to be elderly. My coworker was on the other side of the room and wouldn't have been able to see them. I went inside and told him there was still a patient in the building. I walked over to the couch and turned around, but there was no one there. He asked me if I could still see someone. I told him, "Not anymore. Let me walk outside and see if I can still see them." I went back outside, but whoever I had seen was gone. I have one more encounter to share, and this one was a bit unsettling.   I was about to leave the building with the last of the trash and set the alarm for the night. I was alone. I had the feeling that I was being watched from the long hallway to my left. At the end of the hallway was another waiting area that remained lit all night. Between the door where I was standing and the waiting room, the hallway was dark. The lights were divided into separate sections that turned on when motion was detected. I saw a figure about 50 feet away, standing off to one side in the dark hallway. There were rooms and alcoves on both sides. The figure was facing me, but I couldn't make out any details because it was backlit. I knew this wasn't a person because their movement would have triggered the motion-activated lights, and I knew I was alone in the building. I asked it what it wanted. I also told it that if it was trying to scare me, it was wasting its time. The figure was wearing high heels. I could see them, and I could hear them, too. It stepped off to the right and into one of the alcoves in a single, fluid motion. The right leg moved over first, followed by the left. Then the figure was completely out of sight. Again, the motion-activated lights never came on. I set the alarm and left. I'd experienced some strange feelings in that place before, but those were the only two things I actually saw. Thanks, Wes. I love the show and appreciate the help you give all of us."   John "It was toward the end of August, sometime between 6:30 and 7:00 p.m., with the late-day sun just beginning to set. I was heading east on Highway 74 toward Kingston. There were woods on the driver's side and Prayer Lake on the right. I was driving a Ram ProMaster van, leaning forward with both hands on the steering wheel, when I glanced to my left and noticed a clear-cut area running up the side of a hill. In the middle of that clearing was something I couldn't explain. Keep in mind, I was traveling between 50 and 60 mph, so I only had a brief moment to take it in. What stood out first was the shape of its shoulders. They formed a rounded triangle, and its shoulders looked about the size of a basketball. The setting sun was shining through the trees and hitting its hair, giving it a shiny sheen. Its hair appeared straight, smooth, and well-kept. The next thing I noticed was the size of its right bicep. It looked as big as a Butterball turkey! By then, I had to turn my attention back to the road, and I was already around the corner. It took me about a mile to process what I had just seen. I finally turned to my stepson and asked, "Did I just see a Bigfoot?" I can't say for certain that I saw a Bigfoot, but I know I saw something that I had only ever heard about before. I'm posting a couple of pictures of the location. I also used AI to add a Bigfoot figure to one of the pictures to give you an idea of what it looked like. The location and the picture of the hill are real; the Bigfoot image is only for reference. Thank you for your time!"

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind and it either heard me or smelt me and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up and that shocked me. They don't make people that big. The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the bed. I've never seen anything moves like that in my life. They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language and they were chuntering away back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forward.
Starting point is 00:00:54 I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet that what I saw were bears. A bitch is about six foot nine, I don't know. This is current from Minnesota and you're listening. Minnesota and you're listening to Sasquatch Chronicles. Welcome to the show everyone. Thanks for being here. You know on the last member show I asked the members in the spirit of the Halloween season coming up. If you've ever had anything weird happened to you, paranormal, odd, creepy, strange, doesn't even have to be Bigfoot related, send it to me. And the members really came through. I might even have to do additional shows leading up to the Halloween show. because so many people came forward with strange accounts.
Starting point is 00:02:39 And tonight we'll be chatting with David, who is from Florida, and John, who is from Arkansas. And I'm not even going to tell you about what happened to them. I'm going to let them tell it. And like I said, next weekend we'll be doing the Halloween show. And so for anyone out there listening, if anything weird has happened to you, paranormal, send it to me. I'd love for you to be a part of the Halloween show.
Starting point is 00:03:04 My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome David to the show. David, thanks for coming on. Thanks, Wes. Appreciate it. Yeah, I appreciate you being here.
Starting point is 00:03:28 And you had a lot of, we're going to go into some really weird accounts. but if you would, I know this took place out there in Florida. Walk me into this very first incident. What were you doing and what happened? Well, I was trying to get rid of this credit card. So I worked for this commercial cleaning company. And I got on with them and they had an opening at this cancer center and says, for a medical facility, it's rather small, but it's still pretty good size.
Starting point is 00:04:02 So there's two of us that do the cleaning on it. So my partner, his is only an hour and a half to two hours a night, and mine's three and a half to four hours a night. So most nights, I'll be closing alone. The first thing that happened was, you know, rather benign. It wasn't, you know, a really scary encounter or anything. But I had gone outside. He was still there, and I had gone outside to drop off some trash.
Starting point is 00:04:32 and I turned around and I'm heading back in. And he was vacuuming the front reception area, which is, of course, lit at this point. So I'm looking in and there's somebody sitting. I'm one of the couches. And it looks like an older person, a smaller person, look like a woman. At this point, we were the only ones that were still there.
Starting point is 00:04:57 And a lot of times there's people in the back that are doing the imaging equipment ended working on that, but there was no one at this point. It was just him and I. So I saw that person there and he was on the other side of the room and it's not too big of a room. But there's no way in and out except for the front doors that lead for where he is that lead to the street. And those are locked and we have no access to open those. And the other is just goes into the rest of the facility. So he's pretty much in that area right there. So he would see anyone moving in and out. and I saw the person, so I came inside, and I said,
Starting point is 00:05:35 hey, there's a patient still here. He said, you saw somebody? And I said, yes. And I walked around the corner, and I walked through the reception area, and then I came to where that couch was, and I turned around, and there's nobody there. The doctor that ran the place, his wife is a bit of a, loves art, and she's decorated the entire place. And so the receptionary is not like one kind of couch or one kind of,
Starting point is 00:06:01 kind of chair. It's all different kinds of couches and chairs and different sizes and colors and everything. So I was like, okay, I said, he goes, did you see somebody? And I said, yeah. I said, well, let me check. And I went back outside to see if maybe I had seen something that looked like a person, right? Because I'm standing there looking at it now. So I went back outside. But whoever I saw or whatever I saw wasn't there anymore. And so I realized I said, yeah, I saw somebody then. And it wasn't because, you know, I didn't confuse it for something else. I came back in
Starting point is 00:06:42 and I said, yeah, there was somebody there, but they're gone now. And the guy worked with, he was a younger guy, but he was from rural of Virginia and he'd seen some things. So he's like, okay. And it was like, you know, no big deal. So now the second one was a lot different. This was later in the night. I was about to leave. This was around midnight or so.
Starting point is 00:07:04 And so I was the only one in the whole facility. I'm getting ready to go and I have the last of the trash by the door and I'm about to walk out and I'm the last person sets the alarm system. So I'm getting ready to do that. And then I feel like I'm being looked at.
Starting point is 00:07:24 I can, you know, you know, you feel when someone's watching, and I look to my left and there's a hallway there and it's a pretty long hallway and at the end of it, there's another reception area in front of the imaging area, the imaging center. That place is lit all the time at night for security reasons. So where I am, which is kind of like a front area is lit and that area is lit, but the hallway between is not lit. And that works on, it has motion detector lights to save electricity. So if I were to walk down that long hallway to the end, the lights come on as I walk down.
Starting point is 00:08:08 And that whole hallway is dark, except for the receptionary at the back. But there's a figure there. This figure was about 50 or 60 feet from me, and it was in the dark part of the hallway. So whatever this thing was, it didn't set off the motion detector lights. Okay? So it's just cloaked in darkness. So I can't see any features on it at all. I can only see the shape of it.
Starting point is 00:08:39 And it was, I know it was facing me. It appeared to be, had female shape. And I couldn't see the clothes that it has skirt. That's all I could see. It was definitely wearing a skirt, but the top. part I couldn't tell. And I looked at it and I knew I was the only one there and I knew this wasn't a person, right? So I said, I said, what do you want? And I said, if you're trying to scare me, you're wasting your time. Because I was just, I was ready to go and I had seen things and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:09:18 whatever, you know. And then after I didn't say anything. And after I didn't say anything and after I said that, all down this hallway, there's rooms and alcoves on either side. Some of them are just an alcove and have no door and some have a door. This thing stepped off to the right into one of these alcoves. It just stepped laterally, one leg in the darkness, and then the other leg followed, and it was wearing high heels. I could hear them, and I could see them. And, you know, I couldn't tell, of course, color. It was all black, but it just went click and then click.
Starting point is 00:10:02 And it moved over to the side. And I'm like, okay. Okay, I guess it just like decided, all right, I'll show you something. And when it moved over, of course, the motion detector lights did not engage again. So it was, whatever it was, was not setting those off. And then so I just set the alarm and I left. I'd have some times in there where I'm alone, and you know, you'll get a little bit of a feeling, like a creepy feeling.
Starting point is 00:10:35 But overall, there wasn't really much, you know, of that. There's a lot of noises, but it's a big facility and there's machines running. So, you know, you can't really, you have discount most of that. But those two incidents, you know, happened in there. And when I saw that, then the next day, I told my partner about it, and I said, there's something else in here, too. So keep on your toes. And so, yeah, so those are my two experiences from that place.
Starting point is 00:11:08 And as far as like, you know, that, that I would say would be in the demon area of something for sure. You handled it better than I would have. I've been like, I'm out of here. Why not quit? I mean, I realize that it's a job to pay off a credit card, but why not just quit at that point? I think I would have left. Maybe I'm just a big baby.
Starting point is 00:11:36 You know, it wasn't, I had a encounter with a demon before. And I haven't really had any, what you would call a ghost encounter. you know, but I I'm a Christian man I know there's spirits and I know that the the world we see is much smaller than the world
Starting point is 00:12:01 that we don't see, right? So I know that there's things out there and I'm not really worried about it like with that I was just like, because I've had things happened to me
Starting point is 00:12:16 and I just tell it that, you know, if you know, if, you know, Because I know that's what it wants. It wants me to be afraid because they feed off of that. And so if you don't give it what it wants, it's not going to stay. You know, unless you do something stupid and invite things like that in, you know. So I wasn't really worried about it.
Starting point is 00:12:40 It's just I tend to be more worried for other people that are not telling it to go away, you know what I mean? or to be afraid of it. So after that happened, I didn't have any more issues there. And I didn't see anything else there. And I worked there about eight or nine months. Tell me about the demon encounter. Okay, that was, I was probably in my,
Starting point is 00:13:09 I was in my early 30s. And I was dating my soon-to-be second wife we had rented a house and now I had no issues at this house by the way nothing ever happened there except for this one thing we were in the bedroom and it was late I don't know what time it was
Starting point is 00:13:32 but we were she sleeps like a rock I mean you could beat her up ahead with a pipe and she'd be asleep the whole time I was sleeping and then something woke me up I woke up and I looked above me and there's enough, I had a decent amount of light in the room, and there's this thing hovering over the bed,
Starting point is 00:13:57 and it's shaped like a person, but it's like floating above the bed straight. Like it was laying down, but now it's above the bed, so it's like floating straight out like that. And it had a human shape to it, And it was completely solid black. And it was almost like, you know, people will describe it as like a smoke. It was kind of like that because it was so dark, but it had a perfect form.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Like there was no wisps of anything coming out. It was just a perfect form of like a human shape. And I saw it. And then I started raising my head. It had apparently also an arm. It had an arm, and it reached down and it put its finger, its index finger, I'm right in the center of my forehead and pushed my head back down onto the pillow. And it just pushed it back down, and I couldn't resist it.
Starting point is 00:15:07 My head went right back down to the pillow. then it turned its attention to my girlfriend. It moved its head towards her. I couldn't see any eyes or anything like that. It's just a black shape. And it looked at her. And then I just got so angry. And when it pushed my head back down, I got scared.
Starting point is 00:15:37 but then when it looked at her, I got so angry at it. And I just started ripping things off to it. And I didn't speak it. I just thought it. And I don't know because I knew I didn't have to speak, but I didn't speak it out of my mouth. So I just went into it what I would do to it. And I would, you know, blankety blank, blank.
Starting point is 00:16:05 and I mean I went off on it and for like almost a whole minute and then this thing just disappeared when I think back to that and I always it always just I can't understand it because normally in something like that I'd be praying and but I didn't I was very angry at it and I just after this whole facade I laid on it it disappeared and I never saw anything more in that house and the next morning I had told my my girlfriend about it and she said oh don't tell me anymore and she was she was done with it and then I brought it up I think a few years after that and um she said that she must have blocked that out of her mind because she shouldn't want anything to do with that but um so that that was the encounter that i had
Starting point is 00:17:10 what do you think brought it into the place that would that was something i've always wondered too because you know like i said i never had anything ever happened in that house i never had any bad feelings in that house. And sometimes I get, like I, sometimes I know things and sometimes I have feelings about things and sometimes I see things. But I don't have any regular kind of knowing or power or anything like that. It's just every once in a while I get a feeling about something or I know something or whatever.
Starting point is 00:17:48 But I didn't get any weird feelings about the house or anything like that. And, you know, we never did anything that would bring anything like that into the house. So I have no idea where it came from. And it was a good size. And they always say that the bigger it is, the more powerful it is, you know, kind of like a good person, right? But I've always wondered what brought that thing there and why it thought it could, you know, muscle around, you know, at my place. I don't know. And I would think that if there was something wrong with the house, that either I would have
Starting point is 00:18:28 felt something or I would have seen something before then. But I never did. So it was just that one thing. Yeah, it's kind of weird. It only showed up that one time. It kind of makes sense. So listening to the encounter later when he ran into those two spirits, one was sitting, which would have been confusion going back and there's no one there.
Starting point is 00:18:50 but the one at the end of the whole way, I'd have been like, hell no, I quit. And I was listening to it. I was like, man, you're pretty nonchalant about it. I mean, you must have a huge set of balls on you, but I kind of get it now. I mean, you ran into something much worse. Well, yeah, and if you kind of know what those things are,
Starting point is 00:19:11 it takes a lot of the fear away. You know, fear of the unknown is stronger than when it's not right. So I think the, and think the ghost or whatever that was, when I saw of the person, maybe that prepared me for when I saw the healed one, I healed one, right? But the, when I saw the person, it was, like I said, I didn't even get really close to it, you know, and I went around and it was just gone. So I was just like, well, maybe I just saw something that's there.
Starting point is 00:19:45 before that, I had a girlfriend who, she was a precog. So she could see, she's precognitive, so she could see the future sometimes, right? And they come at her and, like, I had a friend who was like, why does she just, you know, get the lottery numbers? And I said, it doesn't work like that. You know, she doesn't get to pick or choose what she sees. She would just see something. And it's like watching a movie clip.
Starting point is 00:20:10 You know, it being something where I understand how a lot of the world works, if you're a Christian, read the Bible and understand that, you know, there's a lot of things out there, and a lot of them aren't there to do you any good. But if you know how they operate, and like I said, you know, that thing was really looking for me to be afraid, so it was going to feed off me, like a battery, right? You know, it's like when people get close to Sasquatches, the batteries on their stuff drains, right? well, that's, it's not a coincidence. It's because it's a battery is just a, it's just a thing that holds electrical charge. It's sucking that electrical charge so it can use that. And it also doesn't want your camera to work, right?
Starting point is 00:20:54 So, you know, something like that, like if you know kind of what they're looking for, you know, then you just can defeat it by just, you know, like I had a, I had a friend of mine once that I had this friend that loved to debate and argue. That was his thing, right? So it doesn't matter what position you picked on something. He might agree with you, but he wouldn't say that. You know, he would, because he wanted to debate you. So what I started doing was I agreed with everything he said.
Starting point is 00:21:25 And then he just stopped doing it to me, you know. So, you know, I was defeating him. And that's kind of what that was, you know. So, you know, it's not a matter of even courage. It's just once you know, what that thing is looking for and you deny it, then it's generally going to go away because there's no point in wasting its time with me.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Yeah, I get your point for sure. And they're creepy accounts, man. I really appreciate you sharing them. I know this is separate from what you experience, but, you know, being a member, what do you think Sasquatch is? From my personal experiences, which I've, they've all been,
Starting point is 00:22:08 they've all been kind of benign and not necessarily what you would call evil but I think that they were I think they were made by the fallen angels to be an empty vessel or a demon to inhabit
Starting point is 00:22:26 and that they made them and they procreate on their own and not all of them of course are hosting one right so like the one ones that I encounter close to me where I go, they're very, they don't like to show themselves. I've never seen one.
Starting point is 00:22:48 But I did have a encounter that you taped it before, but I think it was when you had that bad storm up there and I think you lost it. Yeah, I don't think it was a storm. I vaguely remember that. I think it's when my computer actually crashed. But if you would, tell us again if you don't mind. So I used to go, I don't hike much anymore because I don't get a lot of time to do it, but there's a place where I would go hiking. And I knew that they were there because there was a lot of reports of them there and even them showing themselves too.
Starting point is 00:23:23 But I had this one time where I'd come in there and it had flooded really bad. We had a lot of heavy water, heavy rain. And I was actually in there my mountain bike. and I had to walk it through because I was it was about four inches deep of water and I'm walking this thing through the path and this is
Starting point is 00:23:45 where they, I know where they are now where they I actually went there I hiked in there with my best friend and they let us go in there and didn't bother us at all but I'm going down this path and there's like this
Starting point is 00:24:01 we have a lot of palmetto bushes in Florida and this palmetto bushes which is about six feet tall, it's pretty tall. And I was coming up close to it, and I saw something move behind it. And I laid my bike down, and I was walking over to it, and I kind of leaned down, like, in my waist, to look in it. This thing was behind the bush. And I leaned down to look in it, and then, I know you're on the fence with infrasound, but I can tell you that they have it. Um, this ice, I like froze and I couldn't move.
Starting point is 00:24:40 And I can see this, the hair of this thing on the other side. And I think it was also crouched down. I think it didn't expect me to come in there in all this and all this mess. I was just completely frozen and I couldn't turn my head or anything. And I'm sitting there, you know, bent down at the waist and I'm just there. And then this thing walks off toward the cross. creek, which is off to the right. And whatever it was, like I said, I only saw a little bit of hair and that was it. Whatever it was extremely heavy because I could feel it in the ground
Starting point is 00:25:16 when it walked. And it didn't run off. It just casually walked down toward the creek. The next thing I remember, I'm just past where that bush is, and I'm still on the trail, and part of it's washed out and I'm trying to figure out how to get my bike across it and I have to sling my bike over it and I sling my pack over it and then I jump over the water and then I get my pack back on and I'm pushing my bike out and I'm halfway home driving in my in my truck and then all of a sudden I'm like wait a minute what just happened like that whole thing it's almost like I blacked out after that you know, after I was bent over. I don't remember standing back up and going over and getting my bike and walking past the bush.
Starting point is 00:26:07 I don't remember any of that. I have no memory of it. It's just that all of a sudden I'm past there, you know, trying to figure out how I'm going to get out of there. And no thought about what happened came into my head until I'm halfway home. Do you think that was the effect of infrasound or do you think that was because of fear? I think it was infrasound because I was. I wasn't afraid at all. And I was perfectly fine with just squatting down like that, which I would not normally,
Starting point is 00:26:35 you know, you would normally be like that because I was trying to figure out what that was, right? And then all of a sudden I can't move and I'm okay with not moving, which that wouldn't be like me because if this thing walked off and I heard it walk off and I felt it walk off, I would have looked so I could see it walk off, but I wasn't allowed to turn my head. when I go down the trail at various times, like any time I go down the trail, there's always one watching inside the woods.
Starting point is 00:27:05 You know, they call it a sentinel or whatever, watching over the others. And I hear that. And because I'll walk down the path and then as soon as I come down the path like 20 or 30 feet, there's two wood knocks, pop, pop, very clear. And this happens, it has to, I have to go in there at like 1 o'clock in the afternoon or later.
Starting point is 00:27:29 If I go in there before that, I don't hear anything. That kind of leaves me to believe that maybe they're, this is when they're kind of starting to come out, and they're staying in their area before that. I don't know. But you continue down that path to you get to a T-junction. And if I take a left away from where they are and walk down that trail, nothing happens.
Starting point is 00:27:52 If I take a right, as soon as I start walking down to the right, I get two more pops, pop, pop, pop. And it's always the same. If I walk down there alone, it's two pops. If I walk down there with one person, it's two pops. If I walked down, one time I took a couple down there, friends of mine. So there were three of us, and there was two pops. So it's always two. Now the one that's in the woods to my right when I'm walking down that I'm assuming is doing the wood knocks,
Starting point is 00:28:20 I've never heard it except one time. It never let me hear it walking. You know how people get paced out? I get paced in, okay, but it doesn't let me hear it only one time. So I came down the trail once like I usually do, like, you know, towards where they're not far. So I come down there and then I got hit with a fear. And it's just like, one of the members said one time, it was like dread. And that's exactly what this was.
Starting point is 00:29:00 I couldn't have said it better. It was dread that I had. But I knew it wasn't from me. I wasn't afraid. It wasn't coming from the inside. It was coming from the outside. Something was sending that to me. At the time, at this time when this happened, I never even heard anybody talk about them
Starting point is 00:29:20 having infrasound before. Not until later. So, but I knew it wasn't from me. You know, I come down here all the time by myself and I was never afraid. Yeah, they could have infrasound. It's not that I'm against infrasound. I think it gets used as a blanket term for everything. And I just did a blog post about infrasound and ultrasound.
Starting point is 00:29:46 And I mean, it can cause you to have fear or that dread or that fear of being watched. I mean, it can cause all of those feelings. And what you're describing, I mean, does kind of sound like infrasound. It's like something that's being transmitted to me. It didn't, like I said, it didn't come from, because when you get afraid, it comes from your inside. But this has come in from the outside. And I know it was kind of a big blob of hair on the other side of this Pomeadow, but was that the only time you ever saw them? That's all I saw, yeah. How often do you go into this place?
Starting point is 00:30:22 I used to go in there, shoot, every weekend for years. And I haven't been in there in probably three years. Yeah, I appreciate sharing that, David. You'll have to let me know if you end up going back. And I really appreciate you sharing the paranormal encounters. I really enjoyed chatting with you. Thank you so much for coming on. No problem.
Starting point is 00:30:44 And I really appreciate the show. And, you know, everybody loves it, man. you do such a great job. You don't even know. Next up on the show, I want to welcome, John. John, thanks for coming on. Hey, thank you, Wes. Thank you for having me.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Yeah, thank you again for being here. And I know all of this kind of takes place out there in Arkansas, and you've had a lot of weird things happen to you. If you would, would you start with the very first incident? What were you doing and what happened? Well, my name's John Small. I have a little heating and air company here in Arkansas. So I run around and do service calls.
Starting point is 00:31:31 I meet a lot of people. I go to a lot of places. So this was late August, the end of August. It was probably, I don't know, probably 5.30 in the afternoon, six, kind of pushing the evening, you know, I was ready to get home. had a service call for a condenser fan motor that needed to be put in out in Kingston. So me and my son, we got in the van and we started off to Huntsville. Got to Huntsville, hit 74, rolled down 74 to Prayer Lake.
Starting point is 00:32:14 So right here between Huntsville and Kingston, there's a lake called Prayer Lake. right next to Prayer Lake, there is a clear cutting. I love driving around doing service calls and stuff. I love looking at different people's houses, vehicles, barns, you know, just typical guy stuff. Me and my son was rolling down 74, had my forearms on the steering wheel. Look to the right, there was Prayer Lake. there was a clear cutting to the left. So I looked over there to the left.
Starting point is 00:32:54 And what caught me, Wes, the first thing was the outline of what I saw. Now, can I tell you exactly what I saw? No, I mean, I can't put a name on it. But what I seen was a typical, I say typical, but a rounded head, not super round, but almost kind of like a,
Starting point is 00:33:21 had like a slight point to the top. And it come down to its shoulders. It really didn't have a neck. So it went from the top of the head down to its almost to its shoulders. So that's the first thing I noticed was that outline. The second thing I noticed on it was the fur. hair, whatever it was. This thing was well manicured.
Starting point is 00:33:50 It's almost like somebody took a brush and brushed it out nice and straight. Now, I'm looking at this thing from the back. So it was standing in the brush, and the brush was coming up about maybe midway, you know, right above its butt, you know, on its back. So honestly, I don't know if it was knelt down or if it was standing up. but this hair was so, so well brushed out. It almost looked like it was brushed out. The next thing I noticed was the length. The length was probably three inches.
Starting point is 00:34:30 It was brown with kind of like a reddish tint to it. It almost blended in, you know, blended in real nice. The next thing was the sun, sunlight coming through the trees. When sunlight came through the trees, it hit the hair and it put this like nice sheen on it. You could see the sheen from the shoulders down, you know, down the back of the, down the back. It was the next thing that I really noticed on this thing was its shoulders.
Starting point is 00:35:07 The shoulders were the size of a basketball. You know, as I followed the shoulder down, you can make out through the hair that you could see the bicep in this thing. The bicep was probably about the size of a butterball turkey. Most people say that, oh, when I seen, you know, what I saw, it was, you know, thin, tall, emaciated looking, this thing was healthy. It was very, very full, broad, wide. the shoulders, like I said, was size of a basketball.
Starting point is 00:35:48 And you can tell the bicep through the hair that it was just, it was massive. And people say all the time, you know, cartoonish. And I agree with them. It was cartoonish. It was almost like the incredible Hulk, you know. The size of this thing, if it's almost like the size of a bull, a small bull, a brammer bull. or something kind of, if you just kind of stood the brammer bull up, that's about how big it was. I took some pictures of the area and kind of put in AI, of course, put in what I saw and it matches it.
Starting point is 00:36:30 But it doesn't do justice to the size of the shoulders and arms of what the thing really had on it. So, of course, you know, this sighting's going down the road at 60 miles an hour. So I catch the outline of it, the fur or the hair, I should say, the sunlight coming through, putting the sheen on the hair, the shoulders are the next thing, and then the bicep, and then I had to turn my eyes back to the road. By that time, we went on around the corner. I'm sitting there, I'm just sitting there processing it, processing it. it for the next mile down the road. And I turned to my son.
Starting point is 00:37:12 I'm like, man, I really don't want to say this, but, you know, I think I've seen a Sasquatch. And, you know, we kind of, he kind of played it off there, you know. But, Wes, I mean, what I saw is what I saw. You know, I can't, now can I tell you, oh, it's, you know, this was Sasquatch or Bigfoot or, you know, all I know, this thing was. massive. It was massive. What I saw is what I saw. But anyways, we're rolling on down the road. We get to the service call and we have to hit a dirt road, go down to dirt road a bit. And I started noticing these big playgrounds.
Starting point is 00:37:58 I mean, we're talking playgrounds with, you know, telephone poles at like four points. And then they have like big giant ropes coming down. Some of them have chains coming down to tires and stuff like this. And it looked like a big jungle gym. And we're back off on the backside of Kingston going up to the boondocks. So there's two of these jungle gyms out there beside the road next to a cabin that looks like he pulled it straight out of the 20s. You know, it's a little ranchic log cabin, you know, deteriorating in the woods and right next to it sits like a 32 coop and it's just like time is
Starting point is 00:38:44 forgot it you know it's sitting there I wanted stop and take pictures but we were you know the row was rough we just kept driving at service call to do we get out there to the service call and he's like hey you know hey you know thank you for showing up stuff like that I was joking I was joking with him and I said, hey, I seen a big foot on 74 back over there. And Wes, he looked at me like, you know, yeah, you know, we know, but I'm not going to engage with you with it, you know. So I just kind of let that go. Got in there, did service call. We left and that's kind of, that was my experience on 74, you know, went back later, took
Starting point is 00:39:34 some pictures and kind of got on Google Earth. I mean, there's woods from Houston all the way to St. Louis. I mean, there's some kind of national forest up through there. I always thought that maybe I was in the area that there wasn't a whole lot of, you know. Yeah, I actually get a lot of encounters that come out of Arkansas, especially around the Ozarks, kind of like where you were at. And I appreciate you sharing it. And I appreciate you being a member too and kind of supporting what I do.
Starting point is 00:40:06 It means a lot to me. And I would say the members are probably the most well-educated Bigfoot people out there. They'll catch on things in interviews that I didn't pick up on. And so I always love your guys as feedback. And you've heard many accounts. When you saw this thing, what surprised you the most about it? what surprised me was the size of his bicep. The arms on this thing was just massive.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Like I said, I couldn't tell if it was bending down or standing up. I went back and took pictures, and I placed it right there where I thought. But what the pictures don't show is this is like a steep hillside. if my dip perception was off just a little bit and it was actually closer to the road, which thinking back on it, I could see this, I could see its hair.
Starting point is 00:41:08 I mean, it was there. If it was, I mean, it had to be, you know, seven and a half, eight foot tall.
Starting point is 00:41:17 If it was standing down a little bit lower. But if it was up there kind of like where I put it in the picture, then it had to be on it. its knees. So I'm thinking when I was coming down the road, it just kind of crouched down. But the size of the arms on this thing was, yeah, I've just kind of, like, I got a lack of a better word, cartoonish. Yeah, I think anyone who's actually seen one gets the cartoon comment you just made,
Starting point is 00:41:46 because that's exactly what I thought. Not funny, ha-ha cartoon, but just how they're proportioned. Everything's over-exaggerated. very cartoonish. And I'll post the picture of the hill and then the image that AI created so people can see what you saw. I'm curious on what you think Sasquatch is. Before we get into that, tell me about the next incident. I know it really wasn't Bigfoot related, but it was a light if I don't have my notes in front of me.
Starting point is 00:42:19 But tell me about the next incident. Oh, yeah. Well, it happened back in, it was probably in the 2000s. Me and my sister, we were driving down East 74 into Oklahoma, past Critton Cretton Cemetery. So I stayed with my sister a lot when I was younger. We were just kind of like peas in a pot. I was her little sidekick, you know, husband was off work and little brother was always around.
Starting point is 00:42:57 So she lived out there right next to, between Summers and Westfield, Oklahoma. And for some reason, I think the kids wanted something from the store. So I rode with her to the store. So we hit the road, the back road down there, past the little cemetery, heading to a wood saddle road and we were just we just rolling down the road probably 20 miles an hour 15 20 miles an hour and I noticed this light right behind us well it wasn't behind us it was further down the road but as we was driving I just kept looking at this light and it was just a ball light looked like a motorcycle headlight and it was coming down the road probably I mean it was at a high rate of speed. If we were doing 15 to 20, it was doing 50. It was just, it was coming up on us so fast.
Starting point is 00:43:56 And by the time it reached us, I just braced for impact. Yeah, because I knew it was going to hit us. And I really expected a motorcycle to hit us in the ass into the car and the guy go flying over the hood. I brace for impact, close my eyes, opened the eyes, and it was gone. as fast as that thing started, it stopped and never seen anything like that again. Yeah, you know, kind of a weird observation. When people run into the lights in the forest, they're not like zooming around. They're not like most of the time it's very slow motion. They're kind of just floating around with purpose, I will say.
Starting point is 00:44:38 But it's not quick. But then you hear about these lights on a road where people will say, kind of like what you were saying, you know, this, I thought it was a motorcycle coming up real quick behind me. Or I talked about, I think it was on a member show, that ghost road. I lived near when I was growing up. And people would talk about this ghost car all the time coming up right behind people as quickly as possible. And even my brother and his friends saw it. And I remember asked him, well, what did the ghost car look like? and, you know, he said, I don't remember seeing your car. I just remember seeing two bright lights like headlights coming at us.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Do you have a theory on what those lights are? Oh, man. If I had to, if I had to, I don't know, anything I say right now would be a guess. You know, people say ball lightning and plasma, entity. Just, I mean, I couldn't really tell you. I know that this thing came up on us really quick and it was gone. You know, I mean, people all the time say that, you know, they see that, you know, usually where, you know, Sasquatch is. You know, maybe we've seen the light.
Starting point is 00:45:52 We just didn't see the Sasquatch at that time. So it's one of them things that's kind of once in a lifetime, you know. I don't get out to the woods as much as I used to being a young guy. now I'm just running around doing service calls. I didn't have another little thing I'll add in here real quick. I was, you know, and my kayak was out there fishing at Bob Kid Lake. He got over there to the backside of Bob Kid Lake and was sitting there fishing and stuff like that. This is probably about the only time I ever heard a tree fall in the woods.
Starting point is 00:46:31 And it was a substantial, loud crack and fall. The feeling I got from that was just, you know, turn around and go back the other way. Yeah, I hear you. The last incident was a UFO incident, wasn't it, back in the 80s? So when I was a young guy, and it was like 1998, I had this buddy named Shane, and we used to, you know, go do night fishing and stuff like that. Lincoln Lake, his house. So one night, we just decided to go out to his house and go do a little bit of pond fishing.
Starting point is 00:47:12 You know, pond fishing just really ain't going to catch anything. It was basically a cow pond tree right beside it. So we back down there and threw a poles in. So he threw his pole in on one side. I threw my pole in on the other side. doors of the truck open, playing music, just sitting there enjoying the night. You know, back when it was younger and stuff like that, you know, I could actually stay up at night and, you know, fish. So we were standing there or sitting there in this truck doing a little bit of fishing and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:47:51 And, you know, two guys sitting in the truck. I mean, we're talking back and forth, you know, about aliens, everything like that. We're looking up at the stars. And I'm like, yeah, well, that, you know, that star right there don't look like it's, you know, 100,000 miles away. It looks like it's in our atmosphere. So, you know, we're sitting there cutting up, you know, having a good time and stuff like that. So we're starting to flash the lights.
Starting point is 00:48:15 And this field is out in the middle of nowhere. You know, it's off a dirt road. His family owns it. It's when you pull into it, you pull in through the gate. It's a barbed wire gate with loop on the bottom, loop on the top. You pull in through this gate, go through some trees, and then you drop down the hill, and then there's a bottom field, go across the bottom field, go back up through the trees, and then there's like a little plateau.
Starting point is 00:48:46 So we're in the bottom at the pond fishing, flashing our lights at, you know, anything in the sky, you know, honking the horn, hooping and hollering, just trying to get something's attention. and once I guess we did, you know, because we're sitting there. We're fishing and we don't see anything yet, but I'm sitting there outside the truck. And I don't really know what it is. I don't know if it was silk worms or what, but I'm sitting there. And there's like little green drops that would hit the ground and then just glow and dissipate. And this another one would hit by my foot.
Starting point is 00:49:26 It would glow. and dissipate. And this is just happening all around me, and I'm thinking, you know, what, what is this? Is this kind of like silkworms or spider eggs or, you know, I didn't know quite know what it was. So, you know, had us a nice little fire going. We're going up there to get wood to the top of the hill. We make this trip probably, oh, two or three times. By the end of the night, you know, it's time to pick up our poles, you know.
Starting point is 00:49:56 it's going to be breaking daylight, no time. It's time to leave. So we take the poles out. When we pull the poles out of the water, all the line is tangled up in a big knot. And I thought that was really weird that, you know, in a pond with no current, you know, he's on one side. I'm on the other side.
Starting point is 00:50:16 We pull these poles out and they're just, I mean, this is just got a knot of fishing line balled up. So anyways, we take the fishing poles, we put them in the back of the truck, and then we're headed out. So I'm sitting at the pasture seat, Shane's driving, we're going up the hill. We've made this trip up this hill. It's not an excessive big hill. You know, we made it three or four times that night. We started going up the hill and the truck stops.
Starting point is 00:50:51 And Shane's like, you know, what's going on? you know, gas at a little bit, and it's, it's not going nowhere. So Shane backs back down the road, down the hill, and he hits the brake lights. And he said, well, what's, you know, what's that? I'm like, I don't know. I don't want you to talk about. So he puts it back and driving, tries to go up again. It doesn't make it.
Starting point is 00:51:18 So he's back and back down, and about halfway down, he hits the, he hits the brakes. And he's looking in the side mirror and he freaks out. He's like, oh, there's something on the back of the truck. There's something on the back of the truck. And I'm like, you know, I'm curious now. So I lean over and I look out. And when he hits the brakes again back towards the bottom of it, there was something hanging off the side of the back of the truck.
Starting point is 00:51:45 And I can't, I don't know what it was. So this day, I still don't know what it was. I don't know. It almost looked like. the predator in a smaller form without the mask, not with the mask,
Starting point is 00:52:04 the predator without the mask. What I thought, you know, all these years, you know, really thinking about it, what I thought, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:11 back then that was like metallic rainbow dreads that was slapping the side of the truck on his side. And I know this, I know, I know this sounds crazy. but what I really think it was now was more fur within the brake lights.
Starting point is 00:52:37 But anyways, whatever this thing was on the back of the truck, that's about all the look that we got because Shane stomped this Chevy, kicked it in the butt, and we got up that hill. Well, we get up to the hill and the gate's close. I'm hollering at Shane, I'm telling him, ram the gate. ram the gate and he's like no I can't ram the gate so he pulls up there next to the gate and like I said this gate is just a a fence gate with the loop on the bottom the loop on the top and he's like undo undo undo the loop and I'm like I don't want to stick my hands outside the cab so I finally
Starting point is 00:53:17 row down the window a little bit undo the it falls down we drive across the gate we get back to to Shane's house and it's probably four, 4.30, 5 o'clock in the morning and Shane, I'm, is just laying on the horn. And, uh, his brother-in-law answers, you know, comes outside and he's like, you know, what are y'all doing? You know, we're like, look on the back of the truck. And he's like, you know, what for?
Starting point is 00:53:46 You know, just, just look on the back of the truck. So we're going to, you know, sacrifice, uh, Shane's brother-in-law for our, safety. So Shane's brother-in-law, Doug, he comes out and he looks on the back and he's like, you know, there's nothing back here. So we get out and we're looking and this hard pack driveway, there is indentions in the hard pack driveway. And with the dew and stuff like that and the dirt on the back of this Chevy tailgate, we can see fingerprints on the back of the tailgate. So we're sitting there, you know, kind of looking at the tailgaret gate, looking at the ground. So we get up the nerve where, you know, it's starting to break daylight now.
Starting point is 00:54:36 You know, you look up in the sky and see and see, you know, up in the sky. So we drive back down there, look around a little bit, didn't see a whole lot, you know, at that point in time, started driving back up the hill. we get back to the top of the hill where the gate is, I look over at Shane and then I just so happened to look up in the sky. And the sky was just, you know, getting light to where you could actually see up into the sky. And probably about maybe 150 feet up in the sky, there was a kind of an oval, an oval, kind of fat on one side and kind of a little bit smaller on the other side. Craft with a with a ring of light around the bottom of it.
Starting point is 00:55:36 With the window down, I cannot hear this craft make any sound. It was silent. It was silent. And I knew right then, I knew right then what we seen on the back of the truck and what I seen right then that we, actually called down something by sitting out there flashing our lights and honking our horns. And that's a story that, you know, he does plum and we'll see each other in supply house every once in a while. And, you know, it's just kind of, you know, hey, you've seen anything lately.
Starting point is 00:56:13 You know, it's because that's something that's stuck with us now for 30 years almost. Yeah, that would stay with me, especially with that thing on the back of the, the truck and then later you see this thing in the sky. I mean, what do you think it was? Like, UFO? UFO? The creature on the back, I mean, the only look that we got of that thing was through the side mirror and the brake lights.
Starting point is 00:56:47 The mouth almost looked like the predator, whether the brake light was throwing. an optical illusion on it. It was something, I don't think it was huge. I don't think it was a big creature. The marks and stuff that it laid in the driveway was almost like if you just took, like took a metal rod or a whip or something
Starting point is 00:57:14 and just cracked the driveway. And it just blew rocks out. It, you know, it separated, you know, hard packed driveway. And the finger, the fingerprints on the back of the truck were just kind of spaced out pretty wide. With, with,
Starting point is 00:57:31 you know, it's like almost, I mean, I don't think I could spread my fingers that far to make what, what was on the back of the truck. But from what we've seen in the, the side mirror, it didn't look huge unless we're only seeing part of it.
Starting point is 00:57:51 The face, the face and everything was a lot, if I say face, from what I've seen of it, it reminded me of the predator without the mask. You know, this weird thing on the back of your truck, and then not long after that, you see this thing in the sky. Do you think that they were related? You know what? You know, sometimes, you know, people say that you see things and things kind of follow you around.
Starting point is 00:58:19 you know, it could be a possibility that, you know, once something kind of gets your name and number, that you start having more experiences. Yeah, it could be. You know, the whole cloaking thing or what people describe as like water in the air or like the predator, everyone's seen that movie, I'm assuming. You know, a lot of times it gets pushed on with Bigfoot encounters,
Starting point is 00:58:47 but I've heard it in alien encounters as well. And I really appreciate you sharing it. You know, being a member, John, what do you think Sasquatch is? What do I think Bigfoot is? You know, what's the greatest lie ever told? The greatest lie to me that was ever told is Satan's not real. And I don't want to get too, you know, too religious on here. but we fight against things that are not flesh and blood but principalities and between good and evil ying and yang
Starting point is 00:59:25 um so i i honestly believe if it's not good it's demonic if it ain't if it ain't of god and then it's it's it's demonic and it's nothing new is under the sun it's all it's all been here and it's it will continue to be here until the day of judgment. So it is what the realm that we live in, you know. It's an energy that's been here at the beginning of time. That's why, you know, I really feel like they're avatars. If most people can, you know, kind of understand what an avatar is. That they were, they were, at one point in, they were cast into pigs and they were
Starting point is 01:00:11 ran off into the ocean. There's, there's, but you know what, what kind of gets me, though, is you hear about having little ones, you know, so it's, it may be just one of God's creatures, you know, we're one of God's creatures and we have bad attitudes. They can have bad attitudes. We kill people. They kill people. One of these days, I mean, we'll probably understand.
Starting point is 01:00:40 But at this point in time, it's still a mystery. Yeah, it's definitely a mystery. It's hard to figure out for sure on what these things are because you can go in so many different directions. I sure appreciate you coming on and sharing these accounts, John. It was a real pleasure having you on. Wes, thank you. I really enjoyed being on here.
Starting point is 01:01:04 So just keep up for good work and we'll keep listening. Thanks, Sean. And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Until next time, everyone.

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