Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:14 Bigfoot Hunt Gone Wrong & a Hunters Encounter

Episode Date: February 7, 2014

This week we bring you the - 'Bigfoot Hunt' Goes Wrong, Ends With Man Shot, Three Arrested. We also bring you Danny, Danny wrote the show and said "hi wes and woody i listen to your shows everynight at work and it gets me by the night my granfather and i had taken a trip to tenn we were in the smokeys and i was probly 11 years old so we are in the smokey mountains and we were staying in this little motel and behind it was pine trees straight up the mountain well my grandpa and one of his co workers and grandson was with us and ive always been a hunter and fisherman so our grandads said could go fishing in the little stream behind the motel well across the stream there was a gravel bank and then it went straight into the mountain so u had fifteen feet of vis ability across the bank well like u guys i started geting a feeling we were being watched and we smelled what smelled like a person that had bo and sprayed by a skunk and pee so i started getten very nervous and this is at duskwell my dumbass had my shoes off before all this playing in the creek well this thing comes out of the woods it looked to be 4 foot tall it sat down on the oppisite bank my eyes are watering telling u this right now and im 30 now but it started throwning rocks in the stream and was watchen us well my littlevfriend and i got so scared we took of running up to the hotel well i had left my shoes down there well my grand dad made me go get em i was crying screaming when I went back it was gone but it had real thick black hair i dont know if it was got its winter fur or what but it had fingers like us except its thumb looked difrent and it was weird the way its legs were looked like it wad sitten and squatten at the same time i beleave it wad courious juvenile and saw kids but i have a recent enconter"

When I had come down this hill, I had seen this creature cross the road. They would have ripped my locked door from my truck, extracted me from my vehicle, and there wouldn't have been a damn thing I could have done about it. Look, this thing I got to notice in his eyes. His eyes was real, real evil, real sinister looking. You know, the look it was giving me. What are you reporting? What's going on now, sir?

That's the son of a bitch is about six foot. Yes, I'm looking right here. Welcome to Bigfoot Hot Spot Radio, Sasquatch Chronicles. I'm your host, Wes, along with my brother Woody, and researcher, author, and friend, William Jeffey. Let's start the show. Search for Bigfoot in Rogers County ended last night with a man shot in the back. The victim was taken to the hospital, but three other people were taken into custody. News on-six reporter Tony Russell spoke with a Rogers County Sheriff's Office about the bizarre details, Tony.

Tara, it started at a quick trip when a 911 dispatcher got a call about a shooting victim being brought there. It turns out the person shot claimed to be on a hunt with his buddies looking for Sasquatch. If they had just been factual and upfront and truthful with us and explain that this was truly an accident, it's strange that it might sound. We would have went ahead and investigated and probably nobody would have went into jail. Three people were arrested after the shooting Saturday night. The Rogers County Sheriff's Office says two men were out in the woods just north of 177th East Avenue and Tiger Switch Road. They told deputies they were out looking for Bigfoot. Omar Paneda told deputies he heard a barking noise, jerked, and shot his fellow hunter Joseph Smalley by accident.

Smalley was rushed out of the woods to this quick trip store in Catusa. When deputies started investigating, they got inconsistent stories. The aggravating part of this whole deal is that their dishonesty waste several man hours of not only the Rogers County Sheriff's Office, but our partners at Tulsa County Sheriff's Office. It's just up this street where the road dead ends, and dive teams spent much of the day, for a gun tossed in the pond. James Perry, who owns the land, told deputies he threw the gun in the pond because he was a convicted felon. Perry's daughter, Lacey Panita, and Lacey's husband, Omar Panita, were arrested.

Perry was arrested for being a felon in possession of a firearm and destruction of evidence. The Panitas were arrested for obstructing the investigation and careless use of a firearm. Authorities think it was accidental. Have you had Bigfoot sightings in Rogers County before? You know, to our knowledge, no Bigfoot sidings in Rogers County. I think our focus is career, criminal. and thugs and we're going to stay focused on that and let somebody else go after Bigfoot. The shooting victim is expected to recover from his injuries, Tara.

Yeah, definitely a bizarre story. Thank you very much, Tony. You know what cracks me up, Woody? Is when the Deaks of Hazard Sheriff is like, well, if they would have just told the truth in the beginning, no one would have gone to jail. It's like, yeah, I'm buying that one, boss hog. You know what I mean? Yeah. But we have Omar on the line.

Omar, you were the shooter, correct? Yes. Why don't you tell us what happened? Why don't you tell us what really happened? Well, that night, it was me and one of my buddies. Honestly, that's really what we were doing out there. I mean, me and him have been out there before, and my father-in-law, he takes care of that land for a man.

And pretty much, we've been out there before. We've heard stories from my father-in-law, weird things that happened there at night, weird noises, and just weird stuff like that. He's the one that pretty much got me interested in the whole topic of Bigfoot. And from then on, it's just been Bigfoot this and Bigfoot that. So I will admit I am kind of, I have kind of an interest in it. We were out there pretty much, like I said, looking for Bigfoot.

We've been out there plenty of times before. Some of the recent times that we've been out there, we've heard strange noises. just I've been out there for over a year, so I'm kind of familiar with the animals and the noises around in the area. And some of the stuff that we've heard, me and him being out there at night by ourselves roaming around 700 acres plus, and not only is it 700 acres plus, but this place is also connected to a nature reserve, and it's pretty big. Well, that night, we were out there doing our typical thing.

walking around the woods, seeing that we hear anything, stirring stuff up, making noises, and just stuff that we've heard before, like the whooping noises. We were out there. I said we got out there around 8 o'clock or so. We started trialing off into the woods about a mile or so from the actual property because when you go into this place, you have to pass a gate. It's a long dirt road. You hit the gate, open it, go in.

there's a house about mile in or so. If you keep following the dirt road, you eventually end up hitting all the wilderness and everything out there. So we were about a mile or two from the house already on foot. He, of course, we had guns, of course, because there was also cats and stuff like that up there, Bobcats, Mountain Lions. I've heard that Mountain Lions out there before. We were out there. He had a 9mm. both his. I had one, of course, too. We were out there staring up, making noises. When what

really happened is that as soon as we got about two or three miles out into the wooded area, my friend, my buddy that I was with actually pointed out, there was a bunch of rustling in a bush that was about, I don't know, 10, 20 feet to the woods. left of us. There was a bunch of rustling, whatever it was, it just sounded big, pretty big. From then on, we went to, we had to make noises, throw stuff in the direction of where the noises were coming from. I also had in mind that I had my two dogs with me. I had a pit bull, pretty much a puppy and a full-grown one. So we had those two dogs with us too. We, the dogs are just, they're just acting weird

running back and forth and my dog was just you know running around pretty much acting scared the puppy was because I had her on a leash and I actually was holding her for a minute

until I heard that brushing in the the rustling in the brush I'm sorry that's when I was like wait what is that and he's like what is that

I mean he's the one to be honest with you he's the one that's a little bit more brighter than I am so he's the one getting closer and stuff

just investigating a little bit more than I was we hear that wrestling and after that we can hear the coyotes from far away at first they're like wow you hear those coyotes yeah we hear the coyotes after that the wrestling stopped

and then I'm like well that was weird whatever was back there of course it was big and it was moving and then I don't know if you guys can tell whenever you hear deer walking you know down on all fours. I mean, you would be able to tell when something's walking on all fours or bipedal.

And it just sounded like someone was walking on two feet back there. It sounded like one of us was back there walking around. As soon as that stopped, me and him decided to stir it up a little bit more, see if we can get anything else to happen. Me and him started making the whooped noises, being pretty loud. After that, that's one... The weirdest thing about it. I've never heard any noise like this.

It was the most creepy noise I've ever heard. It started as a whoop, and it ended up turning into a loud kind of scream. And when this had happened, right before this had happened, me and him were back to back. I was looking at one direction. He was off looking the other. And both had the pistol in hand. I had already let go on my dog by this time when I hear that noise. so I didn't have the leash in my hand.

I just had the gun in my hand. My buddy had the gun in his hand, and we were back to back. And then all of a sudden, we hear the whoop, and then it turned into a loud kind of scream. And then after that, you hear the coyotes just start going crazy, and this time they sounded a lot closer than they were. And that's whenever I got scared, of course, I jerked around, and that's when all that happened.

And fortunately, shout my buddy, and it was crazy after that. I just went into this mode and got them up and got them out of there as quickly as I could, you know. My wife was actually at the property, too. She was back at the actual house about a mile or so from where we were, about two or three miles from where we were, to be honest. I called her because I walked about not even probably about half a mile with my buddy him wounded, bleeding and everything

walked about half a mile from where we were and I was like man this is this is not going to work this is there's no way we'll be able to you'll be able to make it if we walked so I got on my phone or actually his phone my phone wasn't working he actually gave me his phone so he could call my wife and she drove the rest of the way all the way down

to where we were picked them up and we left and that's whenever I got him to safety to the ambulance at the QT I mean this seems like to be the most logical thing that you would do is bring somebody to the closest place so you can get them help and that's pretty much the whole story so you actually did hear you actually did hear yeah big foot or possible big foot vulgization

so he spun around and you shot your buddy by accident Yeah. That's how it ended up happening. It made me think of when we go hunting with my little brother. You know, what he's in front, I'm in the middle, and my little brother's behind me. And he's only a year younger than I am. And every time I turn around, it's like I'm looking down the barrel of his gun, and I'm always telling him to point his gun down. How's your friend doing, by the way?

He's great now. I mean, he still lives right down the street. for me and I still go hang out with him every as much as I can. Not every night now because, I mean, I'm working obviously but as much as I can but he's doing great. I mean, he's back to playing basketball. I think he loves. He's back to, I think, two or three weeks

after the surgery and after he was home, he started going back to work and he's doing good right now. So whose idea to go out on a Big Phel hunt? Well, both of ours, but I guess me, I guess, because I mean, I'm the one

before he's I guess I was his fourth or fifth time up at the property but before he even heard about that property I was the one that told him about it like hey man at this property a bunch of weird stuff happens and a bunch of weird noises at night

and just a bunch of weird stuff seems to happen whenever I'm out there and I'm out there because before I actually brought him on board and started taking him out there I used to go out there with my father-in-law

out into the into the wood, to the woods with my father and my law, just walking all the trails everywhere. And like I said, it's 700 plus acres or even more because there's a, I think it's called Redbud, Redbud Valley, Nature Valley or something like that.

This place is connected right to his property, and it's a huge nature reserve or nature center. But it's, there's a lot of land out there. I've heard some weird stuff. Not only that night, but on other times that I've been out there as well. Let me ask you this, Homer. So what was the final game plan?

Did you guys plan on shooting one? Did you guys, I mean, what was kind of the... No, no, no. I mean, we're not going to judge you for saying it. I was just curious if... Oh, no, yeah, I know. No, I just, I'm not very big on killing something like... Just killing something for no reason.

But, no, we... Pretty much the whole game plan was to go out there and to hopefully see a siding. The guns were just with us, you know, because like I said, there's bobcats and mountain lines up there. So that's the only reason we have the guns. I don't want to get attacked by a mountain line or anything like that. Hopefully just, but the main reason to go out there

was pretty much to experience something, like I said, to have a siding, to, you know, just have visual confirmation that something's out there, that these weird noises are not just in my, you know, in our imaginations. I mean, I know they're not, but I just like to see for myself, oh, there's a big for me. Who wouldn't? Right.

No, I understand. You know, I'm kind of one of those same type of people that, you know, you can tell me stories all day long, or you can tell me about what happened to you, but until I personally experience it, it's like whatever, you know, until I understand. Until I see it myself, you know, I'm one of those types, same type of people. so I understand where he's coming from. Yeah, I'm just really interested by the whole topic of it, to be honest with you. And that's why I started going out there and everything. Well, I'm glad to hear your friends doing better,

and I'm glad to hear that, you know, do you guys still go out armed when you're out looking for them? You know, I haven't. I haven't been out doing that ever since that happened. But, yeah, we've done it armed armed before, but that just seems too risky because there's really big raccoons up there and just and then there's like I said coyotes and those coyotes out there they're not afraid to come around you whenever they're running with the pack out there

and they seem to run pretty deep down in those woods. Why did you guys try and cover it up and is the Dukes of the Hazard Sheriff as big as big as a dick as he looks like on TV? No, what had happened? happened was my wife told them something else because you should have seen her. She was just a complete right. She was freaking out. I guess it's understandable to say she did that because she was scared for me, but still, I was the one that told the cops and everything. When I heard her telling them what was what happened, I was like, wait, no, no, no, no. I was like, I don't want any

trouble. This is what really happened here. I was like, obviously, she's freaking out. I was like, sir, I was like, it was an accidental misfire And that's how it was She was trying to tell him something else That somebody had shot at it And I was like, no, no, no, don't do that You're going to give me in trouble I know you're just trying to help

But that's not going to help anything And I don't know why my father-in-law Ended up throwing that gun in the pond And it says on the news report And he's told me before That he's, because he's a felon But before me and my buddy and my wife actually left to the actual,

the convenience store where we met the ambulance up at it. I had one of the guns. I had the one that I had shot him with because when I had shot him, it went through his back and out the front and I guess it hit the gun that he had out of his hand. The bullet did. So that gun was lost for that time.

And I still had the gun that had shot him with. and I told Don, which is my father-in-law, I told him, I was like, just put it in the back of his truck because we had driven there in his truck and he had left it. And I know how my buddy is. He always locked his vehicle. So I knew that I was going to be open. We told him, me and him both told him, actually, he leave it in the back of the truck. And he said, okay. But I guess when it just came down with To it, I guess he freaked out or something and just ended up throwing it in the pond thinking,

that we weren't thinking that for some reason the cops weren't going to come there and I don't know why about that but it was just pretty much not it wasn't so much this honesty miscommunication between everybody not only me and my family members

but between my family members and the police department and you know I mean I know they're just doing their job but they just would have sat down and listened to us a little bit more I don't even think we would have went to jail so I'm glad that your buddy's okay, and I understand things happen under high stressful situations.

I mean, you know, Wes and I've been out hunting several times, and we have another little brother that we go out hunting with too a lot, and there's probably a couple times I've just about won less to set off. So, you know, I mean, I get it. It's, you know, you got to be careful and bad things happen. Wait, what? What? You know what I'm talking about. But, no, I'm glad you were able to come on the show. Are we still talking about accidents?

Accidents that happened? Yeah. You're still talking, aren't you? Right. That's not that. No, man, thanks for coming on the show, and I'm glad you're kind of able to tell your story. You know, that's what we're here for. Yeah, definitely.

That's all I just wanted to do. I didn't want people to think I was crazy. I mean, I may be crazy thinking about Bigfoot, but everybody has their own thing that they like, you know? Oh, that's cool, man. I appreciate coming on very much. All right, no problem. Thank you, guys.

It's with me. And that was Omar, everybody. We wanted to thank him for coming on the show tonight and being able to tell his story on what happened. Yeah, next we have Danny, and Danny contacted the show. He lives in Ohio, and he's had two encounters with Sasquatch,

and he contacted us. He wanted to share both encounters on the show. Let's go ahead and bring Danny on the line. Danny, why don't you go ahead and start off by telling us about your first encounter with the creature? I was probably 11, 12 years old, and me and my grandfather and a co-worker, his and his grandson went to the Smoky Mountains in Tennessee.

We were in the motel, had a stream river behind it. Me and his dream, we both wanted to fish. The bank, like the embankments, were probably like 15 foot with rocks, you know, going back up to the hill. And then across the stream, it was like 15 foot, you know, wide with rocks.

And then it went straight up a mountain with pine trees. Me and him was fishing. And, you know, in the summer you get like those real tall weeds that come. It was starting to get dusk. something that made its way down to the, and you could smell it, it was an awful smell. It smelled like B-O and urine. You know, kind of like your guys' story, he didn't smell it, but I did. But I had this weird, I don't know, almost like I wanted to throw up.

I was getting ruined to a panic attack. He said, you know, are you okay? And I said, you know, I think we ought to go. But at that time, something had, you know, a black figure had worked its way down to the, the edge of the, to the, to the, to the, to the stream, and the stream wasn't that big. It was probably, I don't know, maybe 20 foot across. I mean, it's not that it wasn't that big. But like I said, it was getting duff, so, you know, you could, you could, I could see it,

but, you know, I could see its, you know, features, but not like its eyes and nose and mouth, but I could see its features, like its hands. Its thumbs weren't like ours. It was more like almost like an ape how their thumbs a little bit, you know. I understand what I'm saying. And the way it was sitting, it was sitting real funny. It was sitting almost like a fraud would sit. It was like it was sitting, but it was standing in a crowd's like.

And it was the rocks into the creek. As soon as my grandpa's co-worker, his grandson had seen it, he took off run. He dropped the fishing pole and everything. It took off run to the motel, because the motel was only probably 20 foot behind the, you know, behind the stream. So he ran up the hill into the hotel room or motel room. When I got up there, I'd left my shoes down there. I'd went up and told my grandpa, I said,

you know, we had seen a monster down there because I'd probably never even heard of Bigfoot or Sasquatch. We just, we thought it was a, you know, a monster. It wasn't big. It was only probably four or five foot tall. I mean, it was real, it was real little and it was black. It's pitch black, the fur on it, but it was a thicker. with fur because it was fur and get cold. You know, almost like a baby animal gets a thicker fur to it, thicker than the parent does. I mean, I left my shoes down there because I was wading in the creek, and my grandpa made me go back down there, and I was crying. I, you know, and I knew that I didn't want to go.

I was crying. He said, I would get my shoes, but when I got back down there, it was gone, but you could tell, you know, because I ran down the hill, and I could tell that it was up in there watching me, and it didn't just feel like there was one. It's all I, you know, because it probably had a mother with it, it was what I would think because of its size, because it was smaller than we were. That was my first encounter. What time of year was this?

Oh, I want to say it was like getting ready to be fallish going into winter because, like I said, it was, you know, I was wading in the creek, but, you know, it was just my ankles, you know, so the water wasn't super, super cold, but I can almost, the weeds were still up. weeds were still up pretty tall, you know, by, you know, how you get your weeds by the, by the creeks and stuff, that they were still up. I don't know what kind of weeds are, but, like, you get them around, like, water, you know,

where there's creeks that stream around through, they can get, you know, over our heads. That's how it's come we didn't see it come in. It had worked its way, and then the time it got on us, it was sitting right on the edge, you know, and it worked its way. It was very slow, but it wasn't. I didn't feel like we weren't under any threat, but, you know, the way it makes you feel, it makes you feel like your, you know, a blood creature. It just, I feel like it was flesh and blood creature. It just, personal opinion on it. I mean, I thought it was just as a curious of us

as we was of it, you know, being, being that we were kids. So in situations like this, I know you kind of go into tunnel vision, and I realize you were 11 years old. Do you remember, did you see any facial features or anything like that? That's, that's one thing I did want to tell you, that when I sent you the email, I didn't really get it tell you. I said that I couldn't see like its nose and stuff, and I couldn't see its nose. You know, all I could see is, to me it almost looked like a baby gorilla. You know, at 11 years old, you know, when something comes down the mountain and you know baby, you know, I'm in a school.

I know that baby gorillas don't live in North America. I mean, to me, that's what it looked like almost like a baby gorilla in a way. It was, you know, it was. It's almost had like kind of human features, but also gorilla features. Maybe because we didn't have a camera or a flashlight. You know, we was looking at, you know, to me it just looked like it had normal eyes. I mean, not blue eyes or nothing. I mean, I couldn't see it that good, but I'm just saying it had normal eyes.

They weren't like lighting up like the moss. Like I said, like something that, you know, was supposed to be there. You know, my take on it, because I was 11 years old, that's why I never. went told anybody the story i mean this is the first time that from my mouth you guys are the first people it's i'm not saying you guys are the first people that i've told the story to but the first people i've told the story to that's professionals yeah no i i i get it and we don't claim to be professionals either well i mean i think you guys are now if you consider if you consider if they call the finding bigfoot people are professionals then they're a joke so i mean i you know

I think you guys are, you guys are very good. That's why I contacted you guys because I felt you guys were very, very good. Oh, I appreciate it. Yeah, we do. We really appreciate the kind of. But I just felt like, you know, like when you see on TV and a kid, a kid tell, you know, like Renee right off the riff, well, kids lie. Kids stretch the story, but kids also, you know, aren't bad nature. You know, they're not made to be like that yet.

With kids, if you want the actual true story, you talk to your child because they won't be asses. you exactly right and you know I told my grandpa then I would take a lot of detector tests back then because I you know it because he would me I mean I'm not trying to say my grandpa was like abusive but he would me because he thought I was lying to him and I was telling the truth my grandpa's co-workers grandson was telling the truth too and we got in trouble for that I mean they felt to take us back to Ohio and everything because we was dead sick we've seen that and they said if we said another word they were taking us back to Ohio so I mean you know like I tell

my I got a I got a good job and I can't really go to work and talk about it but I do got friends that live from Kentucky and I can some of them I can talk to them about it you know we was listening to your show last night your newest one where the guy from Pennsylvania had him and his wife his wife was using the restroom we was listening to that one last night and I was telling him the story because he asked me why I was and that's what I'm saying I don't tell a lot of people at story because they look at you stupidly. Like, they're like, oh, that ain't real. That stuff can't be real.

It's hard to tell people about your encounter. You know, it's all fun in games until it happens to you. Do you remember what time of day it was? It was, like I said, it was about dusk. It was getting dusk. It was starting to get dark out. Like I said, I couldn't see it that good because it was starting

to get dark out. And when I went back down there and got my shoes, when my grandpa made me go back down there and get my shoes, I mean, like, I still remember this like it was yesterday. Like when I was writing you the email, I mean, it was making my eyes water because I was driving down the interstate and I was, you know, talking into my phone and it'll write the email. I was telling it what to write. My eyes were watered and I was getting goosebumps. I'm like, oh my God, I am reliving this again, telling this thing. Because, you know,

I don't, like I said, I don't tell, that's just emotions. You know, like when you guys tell your, you're, you're, as you trapped and that 12 foot one stepped out of the thing and it. who like Hulk Hogan, you know, on steroids 12-foot-tall, I mean, the panic attack sets in, you know, just like you guys said about, you know, you had the guns and you didn't even run on sideways because I was afraid if I turned around that it would come across there and I thought then it would get me. Because like I said, I felt like the whole time that there was a mama one with it because, I mean, you know, in the animal world, like I said, I'm a hunter. When I see a deer, a fawn, there's a mother with it.

When I see an elk, a baby elk, there's a calf, there's always a mother with the baby. They don't let their, you know, animals don't let their kids just like humans. They don't let their babies get away from them. It's so different that it never leaves you, and it's with your old life. And when you do retell the story, you do relive it. I mean, I've told the story several times now, and every time I tell it, I mean, I think about the one coming across the road, and it's like I can feel my heart starting to beat when I start telling that part. because I can just picture it going across the road.

And even though I'm safe now, it's just so different. You know what I mean? It's something that affects you your whole life that it's so hard to, you know, you do relive it. Every time you tell it, you do relive it. And you can go back and you can picture it like it happened yesterday because it's so different. It's something to where it really does affect people. I don't feel like I have to, you know, if people don't believe me, that's fine. That's why I wanted to tell you guys because I figured you guys would believe me.

No, we believe you can't. I mean, we believe you 100%. People don't make up stories like this. They just don't. You know what I mean? No. I can tell you made-up stories that people have told me, and I'm just like, mm-hmm, right? And then lightning bolt came out of its butt, and then what now? What happened next? You know, stories like this, it's just like, like I said, I can really picture what you're saying when it's squatting down.

I wanted to ask you, though, you had a recent encounter? Do you want to tell us about that? I worked for this bread company, and I'd worked for him for seven years. I had made a deal with a farmer. You know, if he would let me hunt his property, I would, you know, give him bread, like stale bread for his hogs and his cows. Okay. One morning I get over there, and he tells me that his cow had had a calf that night. It had fell down.

Oh, me and him went down there, and this man's old. He's like 87. He was falling in World War II. I mean, that's how old he is. And, I mean, he's in good health to be going down because he walk right. And the way the lane is, okay, his land, he owns 400 acres, and it butts up to public land to a metro park here in Ohio. I really don't want to say the name because I don't want people.

I would say it to you guys off when it's just us talking because I don't want people out there hunting them and messing with them because I know that's how people are. You don't have to mention the name. if you don't want to. Okay. It's up to a metro park, though. There's a day in there, so it's like it's almost like it's almost a mountain.

There's not a lot of mountains up here where I'm at in Ohio. I mean, down in the southeast, in Ohio there is. Well, it's more flat here. But over there, it's where they've cut all that out. It's hills and it's kind of mountainous. And there's a lot of pine trees. I mean, thick, thick pine trees, and there's deer everywhere. I mean, everywhere.

That's why I always hunted over there. when that cast died that morning and the cast just and it wasn't like you know if a coyote had got hold of there been blood everywhere you know what I'm saying it would have been drug off there had been blood though because the coyote will go at their butt

first it just it was it was gone I mean still a baby cast is not it's not you know I mean it's little but I mean one coyote

couldn't pick it up and I hadn't really seen that I mean I'm not saying there's not any out there because I you know I have seen him there but you know not more than like two or three at a time. Much about it. I just, I couple getting my tree stand. I got my tree stand.

I'd set this place up nice because the deer would come out of that public land. They would come up out of that public land. And, I mean, I would hunt right on the line of the public land to his land. I had corn put out and everything. I mean, it was, had come in and come under my tree stand that morning. Layed down. Well, a ten-pointer had come across the field, and I knew I couldn't hit it. But, you know, me being a, I was like, I'll try to shoot because I had a row.

red dot on it and I shot and I missed it. It was a 10-pointer. It was a 10-pointed. But I never seen nothing. Oh, I couldn't see nothing. I couldn't hear nothing. You know, I'm probably 16 foot up in the air and a climber. When the deer stood up, it gave me a quarter of a way shot, and I whistled at it, and I

shot it. And I shot it. It ran in about a 20-yard circle, and it hit the ground. Well, my full-wheeler was up at the, up at the old man's house, you know, and it's kind of stuff, so I walked up to my car, or my truck, and the deer was laying. I'd already gutted it and pulled the guts out and put the pile in the creek. It's not messy, and the farmer don't get mad at me. I'm on my full-wheeler, and I'm riding it back there. I get back there, my deer's gone. I mean, this big eight-point buck, you know, it probably dressed till just 65 pounds. I mean, it was no little deer.

It was a mountable deer. When I got there, it was gone, and I started looking around. And I also had a 9 millimeter, a river 9 millimeter with me. Bigfoot, I had put that, you know, that was not even in my mind. I had never saw seen a Bigfoot in Ohio. Never in my life have I ever felt like that. Let's have to go take pictures and soon to you guys to show you how it looks. I mean, it's a super far drop down. Well, I walked down bristly pine trees. I see the deer's like half of its body hanging out of the, hanging out of these pine tickets. And I mean, they're so thick. that you could actually sit in there and hunt out of them and use it as a blind. That's how thick it is.

A freaking arm come out of there that as long as my body, I mean an arm, that as long as my body, I'm six foot one. Again, I almost threw up on myself. I don't know. I never, I just, it just upsets me even talking about it today. I mean, I easily just, I knew what it was, have it. It comes into the left of me. And like I said, these pine trees are thick around me.

At this point, these pine trees, and that's where the deer bed down at. There's one to the left of me. I can't see it because of the pine trees, but I can hear it moving. I'm on the ground. I get back dusting. I would say that was like the out other two. I don't know what they were doing. I don't know if they were guarding it from me.

They knew me. Because I still like the Stigfoot. know that we are dangerous. We, because I've heard stories of Indians and stuff, fighting them, having wars with them, I've heard stories of it. So I just assumed that they were protecting that one, why it quartered up. It's kind of close. I could actually see it.

And this was like, I want to say almost eight foot tall. It could have been eight foot tall. I had them arms like, it's not like ours. You know how ours sticks out and we can move ours around? It don't look like. It looks fixed. It looks fixed. It looked like they're in like a, I come out to almost like a cup or something.

It was probably 20 yards, 30 yards. And the pine trees on that side, wasn't as thick. That's the only reason I could see it. And like I said, I had never seen. Because like when they would say, well, Ohio is one of the most common places in the U.S. For big foot sidings, I'm like, yeah, right. As much as I deer hunt place, I have never, was going to come at me. But the ones at the right, it was menacing.

It made me feel like, you know, you're getting ready to get your brain, you're going to get killed. You know, I'm going to hurt you. You're trying to take our food away. We're going to hurt you. I didn't feel like they wanted to eat me. I just felt like they wanted me to get away from their food. I'm backing up. I'm backing up.

Like the grace of God, I hear a fool are coming down a trail. Well, my best friend hunted over there with me, Tritian. So he had happened to, he was going to do an all-day hunt. And, you know, we had talked the day before, but he didn't know. So the one to the right of me, the one that I could see, you know, it's kind of looking like, well, I take my pistol out and I get on my full wheeler. One standing there looking at my friend, the one to the left on me, it's almost like they were guarding the one in there while I was quartered that deer up. It was doing something to that deer because all I could see is that they were shooting at 9mm and driving that fuller as fast. I couldn't, and the whole time I'm thinking these things are going to jerk.

else is floor. I'm for it's almost like you go into a panic attack. Like you guys said when, you know, you couldn't drive, I'm from the bottom that messes with your body. Like you guys was talking about the other night, maybe it's like in our DNA or our genes to be afraid of them, you know, when we're unprotected, you know, not in numbers. You know, because if I had 20 men out there, I mean,

obviously I wouldn't be afraid of three of them if we all had guns. But, you know, when there's just me by myself, I'm going to be afraid. you know, and I figure, you know, I shoot it with a crossbow, it's going to do his piss it off. I didn't want no part of that. I got up to my buddy, and he's like, what was you shooting at back here? You can't be shooting a pistol because, I mean, this is during both seasons.

Or he said you can't be shooting a gun at beer. I'm like, dude, you're not going to believe what just happened to me back there. Nothing that ever happened to him, but he had never killed a beer back there. The only thing I can think of is that it was their hunting ground back there. Wow, and did you get a good look at them? I know when you're looking through the thicket, sometimes it's hard to get details and that kind of stuff. Well, like I said, the one to the left, I couldn't see it at all.

The one to the right I did see. It was almost like a brownish, brownish blackish color hair. But then when it, like, the sunlight hit it, it had almost like an orange-looking hair, almost like an orangutan color hair. You remember the show you guys said when the guy said that they almost look like they had Down syndrome? and that's kind of, you know, it's, it's, it's, it looked weird. I mean, it looked kind of weird. It made me, it made me feel.

I mean, I just, I don't, I just don't know what I would have done if one would have tried to charge me. I would have had to shoot it, but, I mean, I don't think it would, you know, like when that Rick, I think it was his name Rick, Dwight one, killed it, I just, I don't believe that because, like you guys, that does not cross your mind. Me being a hunter, my whole life. When you see the size of them, I think that's when you decide not to shoot, when you actually see the size of them. Right.

I mean, when you see something with the arm the size of your body, I mean, like I said, I'm 6'1, and when it stuck its arm out of that clearing, I mean, it could have, I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I don't know as long as my body with a forearm as long as it's forearm. Like you said, how that one was the 12-footer, it was both of my legs put together, my upper size. Yeah, and if you have a 9-millimeter, you better save one bullet for yourself. Yeah. I was thinking that when you was telling a story last night, like when I was listening last night,

when you said, you know, you guys would have just needed to say a bullet for yourself. That's what I, you know, that's what I was thinking that, but, you know, rather than that, I ripped my arms and legs off, you know, because I've never seen her teeth, but I've heard, you know, you know, you guys said, no, you guys did say you heard it like screen at your,

or make growl out. You see, they never did that to me. They never growl, but they was making, you know, they was making like almost like a me, me, you know, like kind of a chatter and back and forth to each other like they were talking to each other. And kind of a low grunt. You can tell they're hunting me. I felt like they were keeping me back away from that deer, so they could, I mean, I was just upset that they got my handlers. I mean, that's funny. You probably got it way okay on that day.

I'd probably let them have to do that. Yeah. Yeah. I chalked it. I chalked it. Yeah. I know with Woody and I, it kind of consumed us when we had this happen to us. But how did it affect you, knowing that these things were out there? Well, I mean, it makes me feel like, I've got to look over my shoulder. And, like, you know, I used to be comfortable going on the woods by myself.

You know, I really did. I used to be comfortable. Even when I hunted at my stepdad's, I always felt like I was being watched, even though I probably wasn't. Are you nervous hunting down today? Yeah. You know what? Actually, I haven't, since all that happened, I haven't hunted as much. You know, I'm raising a child. I'm raising a little girl by myself.

My hands are full and, you know, I work a lot, but I haven't really hunted. You know, I've hunted maybe three or four times a year. You know, it just the, my one true love, you know, I can't, I don't even want to do no more because I'm actually kind of scared. that there's something out there that'll take my life. Kind of like what Jeff was saying last week. You know, sometimes you feel like you never really get closure with these things, because who do you talk to about it? Who do you talk to you that you're going to feel like you're not crazy?

But I tell you one thing. Every night when I get out of my car, like when I get home and stuff, because I live out in the country, I feel like I look over my shoulder. I'm looking around. I always feel uncomfortable since this has happened because, like you said, we need closure. Thank you so much for coming on and cheering your hands. encounter.

And thanks for having me, and you guys have a good night, and be safe, and take care of each other. All right, Dan, you take care of yourself. People almost know our shows better than me do. Yeah, they do. I'm like, wait a minute. Oh, yeah, that's right. I remember that episode.

I guess maybe because we, you know, we're busy and we, but it's kind of funny when people can go backwards, start telling us about some of our shows. And I'm like, oh, yeah, that's right. You know, it kind of rings a bell. It's kind of nice. So I appreciate everybody out there listening, and it's, you know, the fans out there to keep us going, because if we didn't have you, we'd be done at this point.

Yeah, it's funny on Facebook at the beginning of the week. They were like, hey, when is episode number 14 coming out? I'm like, is that what episode we're on? I'm like trying to think about the last one was. And it's funny. You're right, you. They know it better than we do. That's very cool.

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