Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:189 Sasquatch is bad for business

Episode Date: January 31, 2016

Tonight I speak to Cory who is from Texas and went on a commercial hunting trip in Canada. Cory had several strange things happen while he was on this hunting trip. He writes, "After I arrived in Canada and was out in the middle of no where I heard tree knocks. It went on for along time. I asked the trip organizer what the noise was and he insisted it might have been a moose. Things progressed on this trip and I heard a very very violent vocal. I have never heard anything like this before. It sounded like King Kong killing something, the creature was tearing apart something. The creature soon circled around my tree stand, I finally backed out of there slowly. I talked to the trip organizer and I am not sure if he knew about these creatures and they were bad for his "paid" hunting trips or if he truly had no idea. This brought back memories of growing up on the family farm in Texas. We had a lot of strange things go on and around that property. My sister even saw what she describes as a "very large monkey walking on two feet back into the tree line. As a child I saw the creature on the property."

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It would have ripped my locked door from my truck, extracting me from my vehicle, and no one of the damn thing I could have done about it. This thing I got to notice in its eyes. Its eyes was real, real evil, real sinister. You know, the look it was given me. What are you reporting? Jesus Christ, you better.

Here, see you. Hello. Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about six foot nine, I don't know. Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right at him. Uh-oh. Welcome to Sasquatch Chronicles, a place where people share their encounters.

Let's start the show. Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show planned for you this evening. I'm going to be inviting Corey on here shortly. And Corey's actually from Texas, and he went out on a paid hunting trip, kind of a paid expedition to go hunting in Canada. And he had a lot of strange occurrences while he was out there hunting.

And I brought up some childhood memories that he had back in Texas. So he'll be sharing all of that with us tonight. Thanks for being here tonight. Thanks for listening. If you've had an encounter, and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email, Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And when you shoot me an email, please include all of your contact information. Again, it's Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com.

And if you get a chance to check out the website, Sasquatch Chronicles.com, additional shows, a lot of work goes into the website. So if you get a free moment, please check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com. Well, let's jump into it tonight. A lot to get to you tonight. Corey, welcome to the show. Thank you for being here tonight. Yeah, thank you very much.

I really do appreciate your time and you're listening and everything. Yeah, absolutely. Well, I thought, you know, we both talked about this before one on air. Let's start with your encounter when you were hunting. Tell us what happened. Well, it was in 2007, me and my father, my brother-in-law and his father, we all booked a hunt. in the Saskatchewan, Canada, on a Wattel hunt. We all went up there, and it was the second time for me to be in Canada,

but it's a totally different part of Canada. I went caribou hunt before in the Labrador area. This is the first time in Saskatchewan and everything, and went up there, you know, it was beautiful and everything, and then, you know, we got to camp and everything and got set up and just waited done. Like I said, we had to have to be. wait a day before you can go hunt.

And so we all, you know, just kind of got used to the place and sat there. They chose them. They didn't really ask which one you want to go to. They just kind of chose and picked, you know, which blind they're going to take individuals, too. So I get up in my blind, and I'm guessing it was around 4.30-ish in the morning that got put in, and now I got all settled up and everything. And like I mentioned to you, we get cold down here with wind and everything.

Cenders can drop, but it was just, it's a different cold up there. So I was already freezing just a few minutes that are sitting there. But I sat there for a good 20 minutes or so. And then just off in the distance, it was off to my left side, my left out of the blind, I would guess about three to 350 yards away. I just heard a very loud, distinct, three knock, knock sounds. And I just kind of just kind of tilt in my head and, you know, try to look through the window.

Of course, it's still dark. I had no idea. I just kind of looked off in that direction. And the one thing it just really caught my attention to it is it, to me, it sounded like two wooden bats hidden. I sat there for a few minutes and we just kind of gathering on up. That's weird, Sam. I never heard that before.

Like I said to you when we talked, you know, I've hunted my whole life, of course, not that much up in Canada, but that was something totally different I've ever heard in my entire life. You know, I sat there for a few more minutes and then it would probably be in about about 15 more minutes or so, then I heard it again. and it seemed to be a little closer that time until, you know, the sun was getting close to coming up, and it was about every 15 or so minutes, just guessing because I wasn't looking at any watch or time or anything. It just seemed like I would hear it pretty close to about the same period of time and stretched from each other,

but he kept on getting closer. And I had no idea what the sound was, but he just sounded like wood. banging together, and it would just echo, because there wasn't any wind blowing at all. It was just, it was pretty, you know, eerie because I had no idea what it was. And being in the dark, you know, kind of throws you off a little bit, trying to figure out what is going on because you can't see at all. The last time I heard the knocks relatively pretty close, I would guess maybe at that time, about 100 yards away or less.

And the last time, instead of three times, it was four times. And then there was a ravine type of thing that was running alongside the same direction to the left side of the blind there that I would estimate it was probably around 10 foot. And I could hear something that seemed like it was walking down that ravine. And so I just, I pulled my 300 up with. with the Swarcky scope on it. And I pulled it up and just tried to pan to see if it would take in any type of light at all to see if I could see anything.

Never could see anything. The sun started working this way up. And I heard it still walking, but it just seemed like it just kind of, I could not tell what. And so, you know, I sat there the rest of the day and hunted. And I only saw maybe three deer that came into the bait. But, you know, it was probably going down. everything, and the guy that ran the play. A knocking sound out here.

I kept on hearing this weird knocking sound this morning before the sun came up, and I had no idea what it was, and he just kept on getting closer to me. And he told me, well, it was probably a moose. I said, okay, well, I took his word for it. I had no idea. I saw a few moose when we got up there, but I'd never heard, you know, a moose making, I sound like that, but he needs a local man for that area, so I just took his word for it. Got back to camp and everything, and I had been talking to my wife off and on for the last day or so when I got there,

and it started having seizures, and they were actually flying her to cook in Fort Worth, Texas. So I told the guys, I got to go. I got to get out of here. I've got to get back. They drove me all the way back to Saskatoon, and I got on the plane the very next morning, the first one I can get on, and flew on. They called me back about a month or so afterwards to check on her and see how everything was going. Through the chain of who we went through and everything, they got back in contact with me again and offered me another hunt. They don't do that, but with this circumstance, I guess they felt like, they wanted to be nice about the hunt, which was already paid for. So he offered me, you know, another white-tail hunt, the next to come back and go a black bear

hunting in the spring. I told them, I said, well, you know what? I think I'll take you up on the bear hunt. And so everything was good and everything, you know, got it all set up. It was, would be in the gym. Me and my father flew out and went back. up there. And we get back to the same camp area. Get everything unloaded, take everything into the house and everything. It was a Saturday afternoon. Again, we got there, and I just

look around. There's a river that runs, oh, it's probably about 250 yards down the way from the cabin down in the bottom there. And I'd walked out, and I don't think we had been there for more than, oh, we probably wanted more than 35 minutes or 40 minutes we'd been there. And then all of a sudden, off in the distance on the other side of the river there, I just hear three distinct knots. Just walk. I take off running towards where the river is,

and there's some really thick, tall brush, I'm not sure what kind it is and what it's through it that goes down to the river. I'm not sure if he actually made it or if it was just an old game trail that had been made there or why. I didn't know if the guy that lived there and ran the place all those years that made it. The guide there was actually coming up at the same time, and we almost just ran each other over. we stopped, you know, just almost eyeball to eyeball. He turns around. He was looking back over his shoulder, like towards the same direction where I was hearing this.

I guess he heard me, and he finally turned around and looked up. And I looked right at him. I said, okay, did you hear that? And he said, yeah, I heard that. And I said, well, you told me back in November that that was moose. Was that a moose? Is what I asked him with me? goes, no, that's not a moose.

I said, what is that? I have no idea what that is. These guys, you know, this is a big, big, big, huge place. I guess national force for them up there that they used for logging for many years. And this family has had the only rights to hunt it ever since, as far as I can tell, that's what they said, that they've always had the rights to hunt. he said he'd never heard that noise before. And, you know, we just kind of hash and stuff out,

I'm trying to figure out what he thought it was and what I thought it was. And, you know, just kind of, you know, the subject of, you know, Bigfoot Sasquatch kind of came up and he goes, why? I've never seen anything like that is what he told me. He said, but, you know, there's, you know, the words around here, you know, people say they have seen it.

He was shook up. And I think what might have shaken him up is that it's something he can't believe he's never heard before. And that's, you know, his home turf. I wanted to ask you, did you get the impression like this guy's heard it before and he just doesn't want to mess up this hunting gig he has going on? Or do you think you really hadn't heard that before? You know, the only thing that would make me think that I think it might be possible that he might have heard something before,

but never put it all together that way. Because where he would have been standing, he was really close to where the river was. He'd have been like right there close to where the knocking was because it seemed to be coming from the edge of the wood line that was on the other side of the river, which was only maybe 50 yards on the other side of the river. So he would have been really close,

and I'm just wondering if he was just so loud. He just, he had a look on his face that he was really spooked. What did you think it was at the time? Well, you know, at the time, like the first incident early that morning, I had no idea what it was. I was trying to figure out what was coming my direction. And, you know, as it got closer that first night or that first morning, I mean, you know, as it got closer, you know, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, didn't hear anything moving or walking, you would just hear the knocks get closer and closer. And then, as it seemed to be as close as close as it was, then I could hear something moving.

And that's when I went to trying to look to see what it possibly could be. Now that, when it happened that the second time in June, you know, it was in the afternoon. We just got in there. It was getting close to sunset. but it wasn't quite sunset yet. So he was still bright, you know, sunny outside. And that's when it happened. And, you know, it was just totally out of the blue. It was very unexpected to me.

It was the last thing I thought I was going to hear, you know, 30, 40 minutes after I just pulled up to the place. And so just this, you know, the look on his face, I could tell that I guess I was excited because I wanted to figure out what that was because it's the same sound that I heard the first time I was there. And he had the totally different look, the different aspect on his face on the whole thing. He looked like he was ready to get back up to Kevin. And I don't know if, I mean, you could be right. It could be something that they've heard before. And they're like, well, it's back and just get back up there because I don't want to deal with this.

I'm hoping this won't happen. I don't know. Yeah, it's bad for business. Yeah, I mean, of course. If you do things, I'm scared, you know, there's poop anybody's britches. That's one thing you don't want to happen if people are paying your money to come out and hunt. Now, did you, after you heard this, did you,

was that the end of the experience for that trip? No, about three days later. He took me out 10 to 12 miles from the actual, campsite, the cabin there, to another blind. Like I said, this is a huge forest area, and I guess every bit of it. So we went about 10 or 12 miles away. Wasn't having much luck, but bears wasn't seeing very many.

I think it was a little out of the norm as warm as it was at that time. He kind of mentioned that. We had like one day that it snowed and rained a little bit, and he heated right back up. He took me out there and got me set up. You know, the sun doesn't sit until about 10 o'clock up there around June and everything. So I went out to the blind about 4.30 in the afternoon for a bear to come in. I got up there and I got, you know, everything kind of settled.

If I can't remember right, I might have been there for about 30. 45 minutes. I think it was close to like five. I think it was like 507 because if I remember I think I looked down, I was wearing a watch. I think I looked down right when I started hearing it. But there was a, you know, I'm not sure it's the exact same near, which was just an open stand.

It was big, I would say maybe four by six. It was open to, it wasn't enclosed. And I was just sitting up there. And right-hand side and I would guess it would have been three to 400 yards away from him. And you can hear the water running very stronger.

The current must have been pretty strong right there in that area. It was about 507 to 515. It was definitely, you could tell it was on the other side of the river, and something just broke loose, and it just sounded like hell unleashed. I could hear brush, I could hear things tearing apart, it just sounded like something was shredding something apart. And the vocals that it was making was something high.

It's almost undescribable. I couldn't figure out what on earth would have been making noise like that. You know, at first I was trying to clarify in my head that, oh, this could be this, this could be that. Maybe it's two bears over there fighting. Maybe, you know, maybe this is what you could be. I could not, I could fathom what could be making noises like that. What did you hear? What did it sound like? Oh, it was just, you know, I can't really make those vocals like that.

It was just like there's gnarly growl soundings which just long outstring yells. But it was just really rapid and really quick and just really vile. I couldn't. I mean, I sent you an email of something that was the only thing that I found and whenever I did find that, that's what really kind of sparking on. I got a... The vocals sounded very similar to that, but what I was hearing seemed like it was like double that, as in activity.

To sound like this... Very strange noise. seems to be coming from some kind of an animal. It's been going on for about a minute now. I'm from the east. You know, it sounded a lot like that. That's why, because I was just kind of playing around and looking on YouTube. I was, what is that?

What are they talking about? Because it was, you know, it was not that long after everything had happened that I found that. And that's why, you know, I don't see what that was. And, I mean, my hair stood up on end when I heard that. I was exactly like what I was. hearing. What did you think it was? I, you know, I had no idea. I kept on trying to, you know, rationalize what it could possibly be. I was thinking, well, like I said, maybe it's two bears,

but maybe that's what's going on. But no matter what he, what was making the sound, if it wasn't a bear, I don't know what else it would have been. Because, I mean, a deer's not going to make that sound. Moose is not going to make that sound. This is a predator-type sound. I mean, it was just, just screaming and just tearing. I mean, it would, it would, the noise was so loud, I could feel it. And it was flooding out the sound of the river.

You could not hear the river running when it was doing it. And this went on and off, on and off for, it had, it was at least around close, close to 45 minutes. Now, is it dark at this point? No, no, this is only like, it don't get dark until, it doesn't get dark up there until like 10 o'clock. It started right around 515, 507, 515, somewhere in that area. And it lasted almost 6 o'clock. Wow. And I could hear something that seemed like it started moving across the river, like towards my direction.

because I could start hearing steps in the brush. A lot of dead fall leaves everywhere. It wasn't all pine in that area where this was set up. There were some other trees, you know, other trees, you know, leaf-bearing trees. I have no idea of what type or anything. But you could definitely hear it, and there was definitely a thick floor of leaves in that area.

So you could hear something walking in it. you know, as much as I've gone out, it did not sound like something on four legs. It sounded like something's walking behind me and walking around and getting closer. I could never lay eyes on it, never saw it. And then close to about 7 o'clock that afternoon was probably the last time I heard any footsteps. But the last time I heard anything, it sounded like something walking behind me. he was at a distance, I would estimate to be about 65 yards. If he was any closer than 40 yards, there was no way it could be hidden.

I would have been able to see it. So it had to stay to a certain point that there was no way I could see it because I kept on looking and just looking over the whole terrain trying to see what was making the sound, but never could. I would imagine at this point you're probably holding your gun and finding Jesus. Well, I'm just bow hunting. I didn't have a gun. I'm just up there bow hunting. So I had my bow and my knife, and that's all I had with me. So I kind of had the knife sitting down beside me, and my bow was, I had my arrow knoll.

Just go ahead and hurry up and show yourself, get this part of going. Because in all reality, without seeing, I had no idea what it was. And so I just, you know, I was just getting ready. If this is a huge bear coming in, they're going to be ready. but it did not sound like a bear. It was not four legs walking. I know that for a fact. I could not tell what it was.

What happened next? Well, you know, when the steps stopped around close to 7 o'clock, it just kind of faded away. I kept on looking back over my shoulder and watching and waiting and watching and waiting and never saw anything. So I just kind of put my attention back to the reason why I was there. I got down. I went ahead and got out at the stand a little early before the sun went completely back

because I wanted to be able to see what I wanted to be able to see as I walked to the road to be picked up. I did not want to walk through because you had a good 150 yards of walk to get to the road in between another thick patched trees. I don't know if it was just that feeling because I felt like something was watching me. I walked to the road. And so I just, I just, I release on my D-loop and the arrow ready to go. And I was just like, well, sometimes I'm just going to have to pull back and let it go. I have no idea.

And, you know, I got one shot at this. So, I made it to the road. And just so happens that the, the guy, he showed up a little bit, a little bit earlier than what I expected. He got there before. That was pretty much it. I'd never, never heard anything else, never. I bet that a few minutes waiting for that ride to come along was, was a long, long few minutes, probably the longest few minutes of your life, you know, sitting there.

I can tell you one thing. I did. I didn't stand, I didn't stand on the edges of the roster in the middle of the road. I just stood there, just kind of wait and see. When an open space, I could, just in case whatever, whatever I was hearing was coming, because I can tell you one thing for that, at least close. to 45 minutes was brutally terrifying. And one thing that I, whenever I was hearing those vocals, and then I was trying to tell

myself, you know, it maybe is two bears fighting. Come to grips with, in my mind and in reality, after about 12, there was only one animal making the vocals. There was not two animals. And if you hear two animals fighting, you hear both of them making vocals. This is only one animal making vocals, and it sounded like trees could have been falling down, it was just ripping. It sounded like it was ripping something apart.

Yeah, I was just throwing a tantrum over there. Sounds like is what it was doing. Did anything else happen on this trip, or was that pretty much it for the trip? That was, you know, that was really pretty much it. We never shot anything. I saw one bear of the whole trip. And it was actually in an area that went the opposite direction from this, area that I was hunting, we drove to the other side of the forest area.

And I don't know. It just seemed, it seemed like there was a little bit quieter of an area because it was actually closer to the little town that was there. That was the only place I saw a bear, the whole trip. Yeah, the bears are smart. They know to stay out of there. Yeah, I don't, yeah, I don't know. It just seemed very funny because it just, everything just seemed to be dead.

Nothing was moving. Well, what was interesting about the encounter is, you know, you mentioned is a Sasquatch. And you had some things happen when you were younger. Do you want to talk about that? Yeah. Whenever I got back from that trip and everything and I went and I was talking to my mother about it, I mentioned this thing, you know, I heard these things and this is weird. I had no idea what this was, what was going on here.

And, you know, he was the word, you know, poor Sasquatch, you know, or Bigfoot, you know, it was thrown after because I'm just trying to figure out what on Earth could possibly be. Because to me, I don't think there's any way it possible. It was a bear, you know. And so the only other, the only other answer I had would be that because it was, this was not any other animal besides something that has, you know, has the, the, the, uh, the, uh, the want to destroy things, feel something. So I was talking to my mom about it, and she mentioned to me, he said, well, you know, many years ago, we grew up in central Texas. We live out, you know, 13 miles outside of town. And I grew up, you know, on a farm and lived there.

And, you know, we ran cows and grew peanuts and everything. and she told me that when about 79, 80, my sister at the time would have been 9 or 10 years old. She was at school, and there was a road that was about the only road that ran through town. She had another little girl got to the bathroom, and she was kind of waiting for the other little girl to get done, and she was looking out of a little opening there in the bathroom. area, and she said that she saw something walk out from under a little washout bridge that when it was on the road there, watched it walk out, step over, look back over towards the school, stare at the school, said it looked like a huge monkey, a huge gorilla, is what she said.

And when my mom told me that, I said, that's, you know, it was weird. And when she told me that, it made some things that I'd always remember back into my mind. Not that I'd forgotten them. They just kind of like kind of went, wait a second, wait a second. Well, maybe this is what this was because at that time, I was only four, five years old, about four and a half years old. We, like I said, we lived out in the middle of nowhere, and we had fields all around our house and everything. And one field that was on the side of our house was a big cultivated field. We would have, you know, some brush piles pushed up in the corner that had been stacked up there for, you know, quite a long time when they tore down some of the trees and they filled a bit bigger to cultivate.

And I happened to be running across and just playing with my dog. When my dog, she never left my side. I had a fixed lab and she went everywhere I went. and I was just kind of running across the field playing, having fun. It was a nice warm day. It wasn't cold. Where they would turn, would push up a lot of the sand. It would kind of make some little sand dunes in the corners of the field and everything.

And I was actually running across it, and I actually tripped on one of them. And when I tripped, I fell down. I was probably seven, eight feet away. from one of these brush piles that they piled up. And as I fell down, I went to look up, the sun was setting off to the west. And as I looked up, there was something standing there behind the brush pile looking down at me. It had wide, wide, broad shoulders. It was hairy, the color of the hair shining, the sun shining through it.

And it did, all I can remember, the shoulders looked huge. It was hairy. I could not see anything as in face. Because the way the sun was setting behind it, it just looked like a huge, looked like a huge shadow that you could see the outline of the hair of the colors. And I just kind of stared for a few seconds. And then I look back and my dog is gone. And she never left me.

She was gone. She was high telling it to the house. So I sat there, and as soon as I realized she was gone, I hopped up, and I'm going. I'm gone. So I run back towards the house, and once I get close enough to the house, I decided to go ahead and look back. And when I did, there was nothing there anymore. And it was probably 150, 170-some yards from that brush pile to that other edge of the field there. after you go into the home, did you go, hey, Mom, something's out there, hey, dad, there's something out there.

Did you tell anyone about this encounter? No, no, I never did. I never mentioned it because, you know, honestly, I just kind of just, it was gone, I just kind of pushed it off to the side. You know what? I spent lots of time out there. I went out, I hunted rabbits. I ran through those pastures woods by myself all the time with my dog. I wasn't, there wasn't anything out there that really scared me.

And I'm wondering, just because I couldn't see exactly what it was, but that's why I just wasn't scared. I was more curious of trying to figure out what, what that was. It didn't really make any aggressive move towards you. It looks like it was just sitting there watching you. No, it didn't, it didn't move an inch. But I know for a fact, it's, the breast pile was pushed up. and I guarantee the brush pile was probably a good at least five to five and a half foot tall

of laid down trees and limbs and everything. And this object, the brush pile was probably mid, mid belly to it. This thing was huge. It was huge. Yeah, yeah, it was ever bit of, the seven-a-half, but it would have had to be. You had some other strange things happened around the home, didn't you? Yes, there was a lot of weird things that happened down there.

A few weeks after that, my mom was laying in bed with one of my sisters. They were sick, and she was laying in there. And, you know, back then, we had satellite set up outside of satellite antenna, out of satellite. And we had three channels. You know, just all you had was three channels. And so when that sucker went off.

I remember those days. So, you know, whenever, you know, whenever they just had turn off TV, there was no TV. So, actually, you know, lay down, actually went to stay with TV on, had TV set up. It was set up on a stand that was up on the wall.

So it had the glowing light of that. And I was laying in the bed. I was laying on the side of the bed was near a window that was on the back side of the house. And how this house was setting the ground itself, there's an old farmhouse that was

actually on an old wooden frame still. And so I'm not sure if it washed out or what on that back side, but it was about, from the top of the window to the ground was about I was just laying there and the TV had gone had the old circle thing and, you know, off air.

So you would light up the room with that little glow. And I was laying there and I kept on hearing something tapped, no idea what it was. He was kind of freaking me out, you know. I had no idea what it would be at that time because I would imagine it had been somewhere around there. But, of course, like I said, I was very young at the time. And so no matter what that was, that was kind of,

It was weird what was going on. And I heard the tapping, and then the last time I heard the tapping, I leaned up in the bed and kind of leaned towards the window. And as I did that on the very top, which would have been my right-hand side of the window, I see something leaned down in the corner of that window. I could see something look like an arm that was like almost seemed, It seemed like it was resting on top of the window. It seemed like a head looks down.

You can see a shine, and then it walked away. And I had no idea what it was. It spooked the crap out of me. I pulled a blanket over my head, and I wasn't moving. And I tried to wake my dad up a couple of times, and he just like, just go back to sleep, there's nothing there. Just go back to say there's nothing there because he's one of those type of guys that he had, well, unless he walks in here and sits on top of me, he ain't here.

You know, it's one of those types of things. You know, of course, I tried to wake him up. After he said that, I just didn't bring it back up. And then again, that might be another reason why the other time of stuff that I didn't say anything because I knew that it might just be pushed away. It's nothing. Don't worry about it. Growing up on this property, did other family members experience anything odd or anything that you can remember?

My mom and dad, and I had three sisters. And I have three sisters. And I know for a fact, all three of us slept in the bedroom. And my sister, my older sister, that's seen what she said she'd seen over at school, she never, she didn't want to sleep by herself in her room. She actually was trying to get me to sleep with her in her room for a couple of nights. And then after that, it was like, no, we're, we're, sleeping on the floor and my dad's room.

There were several nights that we would hear screams off in the distance, and it would sound like a woman screaming. And, of course, it didn't sound just like a normal woman. Long, drawn out, and it was just, it was enough to make your, my mom was terrified. What did your mom say? She would ask, she would ask, what is that? What is going on? And my dad said, well, I don't know.

I don't know what it'd be. I know in a not too far away from there, there's a small little mountain range, which we call mountains. To y'all up there, they're not mountains, but that ramps through there. This would say, well, maybe that's just a mountain line. But, you know, if that's true, I've never heard. For the stretch of the noise, how long the yells would last, I don't know if mountain lines, I wouldn't think so.

I've heard, I've seen mountain lines. We have them out here. I've never heard one drag out a note longer than eight, eight, nine seconds. Yeah, and even eight or nine seconds is pretty long for a mountain lion. I mean, for the audience, this is what a mountain lion sounds like. And when you live out in the country like that, I don't know that that would have shook your mom up. But, yeah, I mean, we had those things happen to them. But, you know, to be honest with you, I mean, growing up down there, to me, it was just kind of put it to the wayside.

It wasn't something that – I'll put it this way. It was not something that you ever forgot, but it's not something we ever talked about. Yeah, and I can understand that. I would imagine, too, living out there, you probably had heard cougars before. You'd probably heard foxes before. You know the local, you know, coyotes. know all the local wildlife. So I'd imagine this would throw you off.

Even your mom, you know, for your mom to be terrified. And you know your mom had heard some of that stuff. She'd heard, I would imagine she'd heard coyotes and foxes and everything else. Oh, yeah. Well, you would hear cows every night. I mean, they're going to start off. There's tons of cows because, I mean, the food was abundant. There's tons of deer.

I mean, food is abundant. But these were not the noises that that's not what you heard from them. And, of course, the mountain line was here or there. That was a very seldom thing that you would think you would see down there. But I'm not going to ever say that it's not possible for them to be walking through, but it's very unlikely that you would have one making that much noise in that area. Now, I've heard people try to say that, you know, during their mating times, they make a lot of sounds, and I've listened to their sounds and they're making.

That wasn't the sound that this thing was making. Yeah, no, it's completely different. The scream you're hearing, the scream that you heard, when it's long and drawn out and you can feel it as much as you can hear it, and you know it's a long distance from you, you know, it's something strange. I think it's interesting, too. You know, you and all the kids decided to sleep in the parents' bedroom on the floor, and you think that would have raised some eyebrows with your folks.

Your dad sounds like my dad, kind of old school, unless, like you said, one comes and sits on him, he's going to have a hard time believing into anything. How long did you guys live in that property? I guess we moved there in 76 and moved here to Odessa and 80, I believe. So we lived there about 10 years on that place. but it's still it's my family land

I go down there all the time it was it was my family land before we moved there we actually moved down there just to run the farm the ranch

my father was actually a police officer before we moved down there you know I'm going to do an investigation and this is going to have I'm going to have hard-nosed evidence

before I'm going to say this is what this could be and I understand that I understand that completely Did anything else happen while you were at the property before you guys moved? You know, besides the screens, the one thing my mom had mentioned to me, because I've talked to her off and on about some of this stuff, she had mentioned she would hear something that she said sounded heavy.

She would hear something heavy walking on the roof of the house at night. She wasn't sure what it was. Now, then again, we have coons. and everything else out there, and they can get on the roof of the house and everything. There could be an easy explanation for it. But then she said it was heavy, and it sounded like footsteps on top of the roof of the house.

Now, what that would have been, I don't think anything that weighs 800 pounds is going to be walking around on top of the roof of the house, but in the middle of the night, there's no telling. You might be surprised. Yeah, I guess so. I don't, I mean, that's just me thinking that. I'm not sure, but then again,

You never know. And one thing, too, though, there's several large trees that were around our house. So anything that wanted to get up on the house wouldn't even have to jump if it didn't want to. It could climb up a tree and just then crawl right over to the roof of the house that way. It's interesting that you had these things happen. It didn't affect you hunting. You still go out hunting, huh? No, it doesn't bother me at all.

I mean, the more I think about it, sometimes I kind of. kind of, I think that maybe I'd have really watched, but I enjoy being out so much. It doesn't affect me. You know, I go back to Canada in a heartbeat. Even what I was hearing, like you mentioned before, you know, it almost sounded like he was telling me you didn't want me in that area. But, you know, I don't know if it was me or what, but it definitely seemed like it knew I was. there or whatever it was. Yeah, it definitely does.

I mean, it sounds like it was completely thrown a tantrum, having a complete breakdown. That didn't get you to leave. You stayed there, and that's probably why it kind of circled around you to see if you were going to leave or what was going on. That's terrifying, man. I can't imagine sitting there with a bow and a knife and hearing King Kong rip apart. God knows what, across the way. And you can't, you know, you can't really do anything.

about it. I would have probably done the same thing you did. I probably would have just stayed there, waited for it to stop, waited for my ride, because if you get up and run in a situation like that, God knows what will happen. Well, you know, exactly. Two things I can say about that situation. Number one, I had no idea what it was. No idea what it was. Number two, like I said, they dropped me off 10, 12 miles away from camp. Where am I going to go? I don't have a choice. I have the best vantage point I have right here, sitting right here. I get on the ground. I'm toast with anything. Bear, wolf, because there's wolves in the area, bear, wolf, whatever. I'm not going to win.

I'm a lot better off, 10 foot up in the air. You know, that's the way I look at. I'll keep my vantage point and stay here. One thing I will mention, too, when I was a key. I keep. We had, we built a, enclosed the old porch on the backside of the house, and my dad put up a wall and made part of the bedroom for me. And the back door that was on there had glass panes in it. I didn't, I liked my room. I liked to be in there during the day. At night time, I did not want to sleep in that room. I had, I had this, you know, I don't know.

it was the weirdest thing I had the most eerieous feeling that something big in here is out there and is going to get me. And I did not want to sleep in that room. And I had a bunk bed. And I slept in that room a handful of times. But when I did, I slept on the very top bunk back up in the corner because I did not want to sleep on the bottom bunk. And I definitely didn't want to sleep on the end close to the door because it set up against the wall right next to the door. and it just it was a weird,

erie feeling it did not like. Well, it makes you wonder, too, what was out there. I mean, all the things you described around your home, it almost makes it sound like, you know, they were on your property, probably for a long time too. It's interesting. It's a fascinating encounter, and especially having the background that you have

with growing up on this property, it ties it all together. Yeah, it does. And like I said, I still go, I was actually just down there on that exact place this last weekend looking for some pigs. They've been tearing up the place down there. And the landscape has changed quite drastically. A large majority of the trees are gone now.

There's not that many trees anymore. Half of them had to go because they just got the old oak rot and died. And rest of it was moved off just to add for more cattle grazing land. So in all honesty, if there was anything that it tried to last out there for that long of time, they didn't move over to the other patches of woods or right near it. They moved on because they've lost a lot of habitat to hide and hunt and live. Now, there's still deer is still plentiful, and pigs are still plentiful, but there's not all that many hiding places left.

Well, I appreciate you coming on, Corey, and sharing all the encounters, your experiences. I really do. I mean, it's harder to get people to come on the show than most people realize. And I just appreciate you sharing everything with me and with the audience, ma'am. I do appreciate you listening and talking to me. Like I said, I was kind of leery about putting it on and talking about, I wanted to talk to you about it, but, you know, I didn't know if I wanted to share it with, you know, a thousand other people either, but I don't know. I'm not I'm not ashamed or nervous or anything worried about what I had to say. I mean, it is what it is.

I heard what I heard. I've seen what I've seen. I can't change those things. I have no idea until he sits down beside me and chugging and have a conversation with me. I have no idea what it is. But it's definitely not something that I know. It's something out of the norm, those noises and things that I heard and seen. It's not something that I'd seen every day.

I've spent many, many hours out in the wild. I think having you come on really helps other people to come forward. You know, there's way more people that I've had encounters than you've ever heard on the show. Believe me. And it's just trying to get people to come forward. So I think I know you were kind of iffy on coming on the show, but I'm glad you did because it helps other people come forward. And it's like I always say, man, I could have every Bigfoot researcher on the show you've ever heard of

and not heard of, but at the end of the day, the witnesses is where you get your information. It's really where you get the bulk of your information on these things. So I appreciate it, ma'am. I do too. I do. I appreciate every second that you sat back and listened and the opportunity to be able to, you know, it's kind of released, get it off, get off your shoulders. You don't have to carry it around with you all the time. And saying that, I mean, I mean that as in, I don't know what I heard, don't know what I saw, but it's something out of the norm. It's not, whatever it was, was not normal. Thanks, Corey. I appreciate it, man. And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, anything strange, anything odd,

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