Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:20 Finding Sasquatch Tracks

Episode Date: March 3, 2014

Tonight we talk with a witness who had a roadside crossing sightning and found tracks in the snow. We will also be discussing another bigfoot encounter that appears the government tried to coverup. Join us every Sunday night at 5pm PST as we discuss recent Sasquatch sightings, encounters and talk to Bigfoot eye witnesses. People are seeing something in the woods and there are too many reports for this too be ignored. Listen as we talk to researchers, witnesses and investigators to unravel the mystery of Bigfoot. Every week we will also bring you the latest Bigfoot news and information.

When I had come down the cell, I had seen this creature cross the road. They would have ripped my locked door from my truck, extracted me from my vehicle, and there wouldn't have been a damn thing I could have done about it. Look, this thing I got to notice in its eyes. His eyes was real, real evil, real sinister looking. You know, the look it was giving me. What are you reporting? What are you out here?

What's going on now, sir? That's the son of a bitch is about six foot. Yes, I'm looking right here. Welcome to Bigfoot Hot Spot Radio, Sasquatch Chronicles. I'm your host, Wes, along with my brother Woody, and researcher, author, and friend, William Jeffey. Let's start the show. This episode is brought to you by audible.com. Go to audible trial.com forward slash bigfoot hotspot for your first free 30-day trial and your first free downloadable book.

In the summer of 1972, Hurricane Agnes blew through Maryland, unleashing a torrent of flooding that tore the Sykesville Bridge from the summer. moorings. Did the storm let loose something monstrous as well? Sightings in the Sykesville area never started until about September of 72. Over the years, the encounters continued. And in May 1981, millworker Lon Strickler was fishing near Sykesville when he saw some sort of hairy hominid moving in the brush. Within minutes, the woods were swore. performing with police. ...orne lead, and I explained to him, well, I made the call.

You could be here. When I was told the league, I was frustrated. Something was going on. With the first Exxville Monster encounter, just one police officer responded. Almost 10 years later, Strickler's encounter triggered a manhunt. These were on red alert. Just local police. By all appearances, the response had turned to the feds.

cordoned off. There were people going through the woods, dogs going through the woods. There were helicopters. There were sheriff's car, state police. Swarmed with federal agents. Exactly which authorities were in Sykesville or what they may have recovered has never been documented. The fact that the officials got there as quickly as they did tells me that they were tracking it and they were ready to comment. It's very creepy to me. It's very creepy to me. and very disconstra. He sent me the link. Think about people.

You know, maybe there were people killed. Yeah, regarding that email, I thought that email was kind of creepy. All of a sudden he just stopped. He basically said, yeah, wasn't that something? Yeah, that was. I mean, it was very serious. Yeah, it was real serious. And you could see his attitude change after, I mean, when he sent that, it was like,

hey, I can't talk about this. I got to go. Complete change. Yeah, it was. It was real complete change. Yeah, I think something's, going on with the Sykesville Monster. I think you're right. There had to be, there's more to that story because he's just calling in a Bigfoot report. There's a ton of these things that go on these

accounts. There had to have been some other certain... Yeah, it makes you wonder. Definitely makes you wonder on what's going on there. You know, we should try and get him on the show. I had no idea. Honestly, I've never heard that story before. You know, I think I'm going to send him an email in a little while and ask him if he'll come on. You know, I put stuff up on Facebook and he was one of the people that always like to help me promote stuff. So I think he'll be friendly. What did you think of that jibber that I played last week? That was interesting.

I mean, that's one of those. I heard chatter, but not quite like that. I haven't. And then I have it slowed down at 50%. I'll go ahead and play this audio and tell me what you think, Will. Kind of reminds you like Star Wars, doesn't it? You know, I was just, I listened to that before. I thought about it since then trying to divide the different noises.

I mean, first of all, it sounds like there's either dogs and or kai. in the background, is that right? Yeah, it sounds like it. They're just going off. And then you hear this kind of weird, almost, I'd say it's almost like that, and I suppose it makes me think of a bird at first, but maybe it's a whistle. I've heard Sasquatch is chattering,

and it's very different than this. Yeah, it's hard to, I'll tell you what, I have it slowed down at 50%. Okay. It sounds a little bit more disturbing, slowed down at 50%. It does, and it does sound very, that. What kind of a name will attach that?

of that one yet, but we'll just call it the other. You know, it'd be interesting. I just mention anything like that or what their opinion is. When you hear it at the normal rate, it almost sounds like someone's playing a recording or someone's some sort of audio has been tweaked. That's what I thought. That's why

I thought it sounded electronic. Right. Or electronically generated. And when he slowed down, it actually sounds almost more authentic, I think. Right, I agree. But, yeah, I thought I'd get your opinion on that, to see what you thought. Well, it's interesting. I mean, and again, slowed down. You can really...

Yeah. I tend to agree with you on that. Do you think we ought to play... I got a minute 34 with Mike Patterson's new audio file. Do you think we ought to even bother with that? A vocalization or something, or... He's the Sasquatch Ontario guy. We've played him before. What he says in this next audio is he basically says that they enter different dimensions, and then he shows footprints, and there's dirt on. the footprint. He says it came from another dimension.

She would even bother? No, I don't think so. Yeah. Let's leave the flute players to their own dimensions. Yeah, I thought you'd find it all right. So he finds these footprints. He talks about how they come out of a different dimension, and that dirt's actually from another dimension. That's like the guy, I remember I mentioned him years ago back in the 90s, once sat in the audience on my behalf. I'd have to look to see what he's called him the button pusher. because every time somebody talked to this guy,

that was his whole thing about how they do it, and he starts pushing his chest, because maybe they got a button here, different dimensions, and he says they're dinosaur food in another dimension, so they jump into our dimension to escape being eaten by a T-Rex or something. And, of course, you can imagine, you know, my mouth, open, eyes rolling in the back of my head

and all this stuff when I heard this crap. Yeah. I have Brian Forrester talking about the elongated skulls, and what he was saying in there, he kind of alludes to the fact to, he kind of alludes a little bit to the fact that they might be Sasquatch and not alien. You've seen the elongated schools, right?

Yeah, right. So there's these schools in, I can't remember what's that? They're all over the world, actually, mostly South America lately, but they're actually found all over the place. Yeah, this place is in South America, and they have these elongated schools, but the problem with these elongated schools, they're larger than the normal human school. Oh, really? about twice as big as a normal human skull. The eye sockets on them are twice as big. He does a pretty good job.

He's describing, they're doing something with the DNA, and he kind of explains why it's so hard to get DNA from them, and it made me think of our dig coming up, that I wonder why it's so hard to get DNA from these skulls. Nothing in the gym bank matched the DNA from these skulls. And he was talking about these schools that, You can wrap like a baby's head and you can cause that deformity. Right.

But you can't make, you can't add volume to a school. You can't actually make a school bigger. You can deform a school. It'll thin out the... Right, exactly. It's kind of interesting. It's about nine minutes long, but it's kind of interesting. And he talks about them having reddish, brownish hair.

Oh, see, that's exactly what we're talking about. Now, in South America, there is a third... Yeah, there you go. Tell me what you think of this. Let's see if we should have this guy on the show. Well, what's kind of intriguing is if you look on the internet to any photo website, and if you put in something like alien skull or human hybrid skull, quite often the paracus skulls show up predominantly because they are so large in size,

some of them are very natural looking, and also there are so many of them that have been found, which is quite intriguing. So would you say that some of the features that these skulls have ruled out the possibility of cranial defamation, you know, processes like head flattening or head binding, which are known to have happened in other cases of elongated skulls? Well, that is the curious point in that cranial deformation is known to have occurred in many different parts of the world. most prominently about 2,000 years ago, from the Middle East, even Melanesia, Central America.

But because I've been intimately engaged with the elongated skulls of Paracus and the Paracus culture in general that died out 2,000 years ago, I've had the opportunity to look in person at numerous of the skulls as well as hundreds which are in collections, around the world. And some of them, I would say possibly between 5% and 10% of them do not show obvious signs of cradle boarding or other forms of cranial deformation, which generally tends to create flat surfaces, either in the forehead or the back of the head. Some of these literally look like they are natural in appearance. And so I've also heard that some of the other features include increased

volume and increased weight compared to other skulls. Is that not something that could also happen as a result of head flattening where, you know, through the process of binding that the size actually increases or is that absolutely not possible? Well, from the doctors that I've spoken to, they said that you can alter the shape of the skull, but you can't increase the size of the skull because what the skull, the skull is genetically predetermined to have a certain volume. And so it's much like in terms of, you know, the analogy I have is pottery where you have a piece of greenware, which is a pot which is not quite dried yet.

You can alter its shape, but you can't change the volume of it itself. Some people have stated that the reason why the Pyracus could have had denser skulls or, you know, be heavier, et cetera. is the result of their diet or malnutrition or whatever. And the thing is that they had an incredible diet of seafood as well as terrestrial plants. They probably actually ate better than most of us do today. And so the study of these skulls is becoming a lot more interesting now that we have the technology for extracting DNA and analyzing DNA. Before any testing was undertaken, did you have any theories yourself about what might be felt? found? Well, I didn't want to conjecture anything. Of course, I've had many different ideas,

but I've been waiting for actual DNA analysis, and that has taken an incredibly long time, mainly due to lack of funding, and also finding a geneticist who, A, is open to studying this, doing it at a fraction of the normal cost that it would cost commercially. And importantly, we wanted to do this independently because going through any governmental or private foundation or whatever would probably result in the results either being deleted or altered or being kept for purposes other than my intent. And my intent simply is to find the truth as to who these people were. Yeah, and so can you explain a bit about the testing process that actually took place or has taken place so far?

Well, it's a very complex process and most people don't realize this because they think, well, DNA testing is quite simple now. I can go and have my blood sample extracted and be told within a few days, you know, all of my genetic ancestry. But what you have to take into account is the last of the Parakis died 2,000 years. years ago. And so you're talking about 2,000 years of the degeneration of the material, the late Lloyd Pye, who I was acquainted with, you know, very personally and professionally because of his fascination with this. His analogy is that to take a sample and analyze it from somebody who's living is the equivalent of looking at or studying a crystal bowl because it's complicated and intact.

And then he said the equivalent of ancient DNA is taking that crystal bowl and throwing it on a concrete floor because it becomes shattered into tiny little segments. So it's only the most recent, sophisticated, extremely expansive DNA analyzing equipment that can take all of those tiny segments and put them back together. So it's been very difficult to find someone who would pursue that. We actually have two different geneticists at work, but it happened to be this one who's had samples for more than two years who has given me this initial result which completely shocked him.

And so the thing most people really want to know is what exactly was found in that initial result. Yeah, and basically what I can say is that he speculates that there are segments of the DNA match anything in GenBank, which is the genetic database located in the United States that contains all known genetic DNA information. So he said there are segments which don't seem to be any haplotype of human that we know of, also not related to Neanderthal or any other human-like. being that has been studied so far.

Quite incredible, really, but now you have emphasized this is phase one, or stage one of the testing. What then is the next stage after this one? Is it possible that this result is contaminated or it's not accurate and that further stages may reveal something different? It's possible, however, you know, this person who lives in the United States and has a doctorate. He does a lot of contract work with the U.S. government.

So clearly the government wouldn't choose someone who was flaky or a sensationalist. He's taken a lot of time. It's been more than two years for him to give us the initial result of one sample so far. But he does have samples from three different skulls from Piraqas. And so what I'm hoping is that this, and the reason why I released it, this information, is to try to generate. interest from the public so that we can do a fundraiser in order to be able to study the other two skulls, as well as other samples from the three skulls themselves, so that we can replicate the tests as many times as possible

to see whether or not this is an anomaly or whether it's something which is truly mind-blowing. I guess is the term? Yeah, exactly. And is it possible? the fact that it doesn't match anything in the gene bank, could it be that this is just a one-of-a-kind mutation, a mutation that hasn't been seen before, and it's just unique to that particular race of people?

Again, the whole study is so new, and the Parakas are very mysterious people. Nobody has really studied them for about 70 years. The people who study them now study their textiles, but the whole idea of the different shape, has been dismissed in general as simply being cranial deformation. But in fact, nobody knows where the Piraqas people came from. They lived on the coast of Peru.

And through my studies, I believe that there's a certain percentage of their ancestry that comes from another part of the world because they also, amongst the royalties, seem to have had reddish brown hair, which is not a Native American characteristic. And they were reasonably tall. Well, it's interesting. I mean, of course, it's a leap to say that they were relic hominid, but there are so many gaps in the hominid wreck, half a dozen or more, it's not the Sasquatch, not the other type we have.

So it's pretty interesting, actually. Yeah, and if you see pictures of them compared to a normal skull, I mean, they're twice the size of a normal school, a normal person's school. Yes, they don't really fit the human parameters. No, they don't fit the human parameters. Among all those relic hominids, we don't know what level of intelligence, or socialization there was among them. Yeah.

Do you read the story about the lady that claims to have fed a baby Sasquatch? I didn't. I didn't. I know about it, but I didn't read it yet. Yeah, well, it's not really worth reading, but she claims to found one. She found it in the woods, brought it in, raised it for, I think she said, like a year or two. Caught it about hunters and fed it goat milk, tomatoes. I forget what else she says.

Yeah. And I'm really glad that he's... Yeah. Yeah, she's a seven-year-old woman. They asked her if she had any proof, and she didn't have any... She's like, oh, you rascals, I didn't tell you the story to provide you proof. I was just, these are people and blah, blah, blah. And she didn't want to be interviewed anymore and didn't want to come out anymore with any form of information.

And then she came out like a week ago and said, well, here's some diaries that I care of some diaries I had when I was taking care of the Sasquatch. And she has, like, stick, sick figures, draw. on this little baby Sasquatch and I was just like Sweet Jesus. Everyone here at Bigfoot Hot Spot Hot Spot Radio would like to thank Audible.com.

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little girl when I saw the Patterson Gibbleen film for the first time. That was during my spring break. I was in fifth grade. And I remember it very vividly because I was sitting in front of the television with my coloring book and coloring, and I saw this terrifying image of the Sasquatch. And that disturbed me to the point that I think I slept with my parents for about two weeks after that. I was that afraid. And then it wasn't long after that, that the movie, The Legend of Boggy Creek, became popular, and we saw that at the drive-in.

And that was like maybe a month after I had seen the Patterson Gimlin film on television. And I'm a native Arkansas, so that swept the state. And my classmates and I discussed what we had seen. We were all afraid. A lot of my classmates and their fathers went hunting in the woods.

And we lived in the woods, too. so you can imagine the impact that had. And I think that I slept with my parents again for like another two weeks after that. And just over the years, yeah, and just over the years, I've had a passive interest in it. I never imagined ever seeing one

or having an experience that was just mostly for people in California or maybe in Falca, Arkansas. That was not going to be my experience ever. But I never imagined in a million years what we have experienced. And I'm a believer big time. My first sighting was actually about the year 2000. I was coming home from a ball game.

I had taken my daughter and her friend to ball practice in their ball game, and I was night in the summertime, and we were driving along the highway, and I saw something that was large, black and hairy walking across the highway. And I didn't tell them what I had seen, and I can't say that that was a Sasquatch, but I know it wasn't a deer, and I know it wasn't a bear, because we don't have bears here. and I told my husband about it when I got home, that it was a large black hairy thing walking on two legs across the highway.

And I never mentioned it to anyone else after that, but I did ask a couple of neighbors. I had a neighbor at the time who lived in Alaska and told him what I had seen, and he told me about his experiences of living in Alaska, and he also lived in California and the northwest for a period of time. So I found an outlet for that at least,

but I kept it mainly to myself. So after that, did you see or hear anything? No. Just over the years, we've had some unusual things that have happened around the house. It's just mainly what sounded like rocks being thrown at our house. I would tell my husband that I heard something that sound like a rock hammering against the house, you know, just thrown. But he thought, well, maybe that was a bird, maybe it was a bat.

But it happened so frequently during the summer that I did make a note of it, But I didn't know what to think of it. I didn't think that we had a neighbor playing a joke on us or anybody caring enough to come way out here in the rural part of our community to harass us like that. I don't know what I thought. I just let it go. When you heard the thud, was it just a series of thuds?

It was a loud rocket sound, just an explosion. It would hit the awning or the chimney and at the side of the house, too. So it was just a usually... You could hear, our bedroom was a loud. over underneath the chimney and whenever it would hit you could still hear the kind of the reverberate the vibration the after sound of it down here so was it just like a single thud say in a day or i'm trying to get at night at night at night yeah and it was usually after i had been up with one of the

kids or taking a cat out of the house or bringing a cat in the house it was after some activity and i was definitely awake when it happened see of these things what did it span a number of weeks or months or... It was most notable in the summertime when we had our bedroom windows open. So this is sort of like a thing that happened year after year or... I wouldn't say year after year, but it was enough for me to remember it, but I had no explanation for it. I didn't think anyone was going to bother us.

Sasquatch was definitely not on my mind at the time. Right, right. How did the insulin... No, it was just when I had my... my own personal sighting in the early weeks of September of 2012 at our local state park. Now, you told me you found tracks. Can you tell us about that? Yeah, the tracks we found Christmas Eve 2012. My husband and one of our daughters wanted to take a walk around the lake at the local park. We live about a mile from the state park. You can see the tree line from our house, and we've raised our family at this park.

with birthday parties and, you know, walks along the trail, things like that. So my husband and daughter went Christmas Eve. It was about 2 o'clock in the afternoon, and I joked with them, because I hadn't been back to the park since September 2012. I joked with them. Well, if you see Bigfoot, let me know. And they were gone maybe half an hour, 45 minutes, and they came running up the driveway, and they said,

we've seen very large footprints all over the lake. So I grabbed my purse and got in the car and we went. We parked at the dam and we walked halfway around the trail and we saw these enormous footprints that were at least 17, 18 inches long. Very wide strides. What we saw in the snow, we had had a blizzard like two weeks before and the sun had been out off and on and had melted some of the snow. And it reminded me of a public point.

in the summertime. You know, when you see people leaving the pool and going in the pool, you see the footprints all around the pool. That's exactly what it looked like around the lake. And we went back on Christmas Day and we took photos. We took more photos. We had taken some on Christmas Eve. We didn't stay too long because it was getting dark and my youngest daughter was starting to cry. She was 14 at the time and it wasn't fun for her anymore to keep following these tracks. And I marked the tracks with the red Christmas ribbon. the bigger ones, the more prominent ones, so we'd be able to come back and take pictures

or see if there was a change from the time that we were there over the span of like 12 to 24 hours. And I should mention that some of those... Yes, well, these prints were very good. It was exhilarating to see something like this. It was a high that I never thought that I could ever experience. I thought this happened for people in Bluff Creek, California,

not for something like me, someone like me and my family Well, I'm a believer And they're here We've seen the prints We've got evidence We took a lot of pictures I've heard

We have had a golly We had a time out here After our sight of print That there was a lot of rock clacking out here It sounded like a Morse code And we also heard that In the woods at the park My husband and daughter

Got that on tape But it was deleted by mistake. But she said, my daughter said, that it did sound like a type of Morse code. Have you heard any vocalizations or anything? Yes, we did. Our last vocals were a week ago, excuse me, February 15th.

My husband and I were at... Yes. We were at a Valentine's dinner at the small church across from the park, and I was the first one to leave. He was still inside. Walked to the car, and I heard the most, just the depth and the breadth of those howls

was absolutely filling the woods. It went over the treetops. My husband came out and I said, shh, listen. And something with a good set of lungs made those sounds. And we just stood there in total awe of what we heard. We just couldn't believe what we heard. It was magnificent. Anything you could...

No, in the woods, there are... In the woods, there are deer, raccoons, possums. The park ranger has smallish dogs, you know, the terrier types. Right. But I don't think a terrier is going to sound like that. No, I wouldn't think so. When you first found the tracks, what kind of went through your mind when he saw them? And the reason why I asked that is, I remember when Woody and I first found a track,

I mean, we sat and looked at it. I mean, it's hard to, you know, you look at it and you're trying to, you're trying to, to think of what the heck is this, you know? It's hard. Is somebody out here walking? Yeah, it's very hard. It's tough to take in. But what was kind of going through your mind when you saw those tracks?

Euphoria, exhilaration, a thrill that I never could have imagined. Like I said, this happens for other people. It happens for people in California. Or on the television programs. It's not something that happened for me. Even if I did have a sighting a few months before, I never imagined seeing footprints. I never imagined having this kind of experience or something. seeing a Sasquatch or hearing vocals ever again, but it was exhilarating.

And we just followed and we followed. And then after a while, it started to get scary because it was getting dark. The next day when we went, it was Christmas Day, we had followed those trails, that trail again. We followed the tracks up to the hill where there's a shelter. And I followed the tracks down the hill, and because I've got arthritis down in my knees and in my ankles, I decided that I wasn't going to walk back up the hill, but I would just simply walk around the lake to get back to the car. So I walked down across the parking lot of the shelter, and like I said, the sun had been out, and it had melted the snow. I didn't think I was going to

see any more tracks. I went back on the trail. I found the trail, started again, and there were tracks. This time, there were only two tracks. One pair of prints was larger than the other. between both tracks were a set of deer tracks. They were following the deer. And I followed the tracks along the trail, got to a point where there was the hill in the peninsular area from where I had seen the Sasquatch by the shelter. They walked straight up the hill.

That's a very difficult hill to walk up in the best of times. But with snow and ice, whatever it was that walked up the hill, walked up with ease. It didn't slip and slide like I did. I practically crawled up the hill on my hands and knees, getting up there to get across and find the trail again. Again, like I said, the sun had been out and melted some of the snow on the hill, and I knew where the trail was, so I started on the trail again,

and the trail was shaded by the trees, and there were the tracks again, the two pairs of feet, one pair of feet, larger than the other, and the deer tracks. And I followed that around, followed it around the lake, Well, we sure appreciate you coming on and sharing your experiences with us. It's kind of hard to share your experiences with people. I mean, I know firsthand that when you've seen something or when you've heard something, it's really hard to, you kind of have to pick and choose who you tell, but we sure appreciate you sharing it with us and with our audience.

And thanks for listening to. We really do appreciate it. Yes. Well, thank you so much for listening to my story. Absolutely. Absolutely. Everyone here at Bigfoot Hotspot Hot Spot Spot Radio would like to thank audible.com. Audible.com is the internet leading provider of audiobooks with over 150,000 different titles to choose from. To download a free audiobook of your choice, go to audibletrial.com forward slash bigfoot hotspot.

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Yeah, I'm excited. The main question, a lot of people are asking, a lot of people who don't live in the United States have asked if they aren't obviously in the United States, can they still participate? I know people from Australia, people from England, people from Scotland, and the answer is yes, you can. I would love to take a couple of people who aren't from the United States out to the Pacific Northwest. I think that would be pretty cool.

As far as the drawing goes, I'd like to do like a lot of the United States. I'd like to do like a live drawing on a Google Hangout or something like that where it's audio and video we're doing like a live drawing and pulling names, like a live video feed of us doing the drawing and pulling names. And that's kind of the route I'm thinking about going with regard to the drawing. I know we're going to draw on May so that it gives people time before we go in July. But I'm excited to go. I can't wait to go up there and take people up there

and take people up to them up the mountain and show them around and go up to mountains. Oh, you're right. It would be great to have a, and that's something, too, I wanted to mention that for our listeners out there. Yeah, we get a lot of love from people in the UK and Australia and a lot of places that aren't the United States. So I appreciate all those people. Yeah, it's really cool. Thanks, everyone, for joining us tonight. Have a good night. Spetting is sweeping across the country faster than the coronavirus and wagering week.

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