Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:206 The creature at the window

Episode Date: April 3, 2016

I will be speaking to Hunter who was face to face with a Sasquatch. Hunter says "My window was about 7 feet off of the ground and my bed is right next to the window. As I was in bed I had this feeling of something watching me. I looked over and we were inches from each other, separated by glass. The eyes had a reddish color to them and it's expression never changed, it just had a blank stare. The only thing moving was the creatures eyes looking me over. I thought a gorilla was loose but the more I stared at this creature in fear the more I realized, this was no gorilla. I can give you a very clear description of the face, eyes, ears, mouth and even what little of a neck it had. This thing was huge! I thought these things were in the Pacific Northwest but not Ohio!" I will also be speaking to another witness who had an encounter with a Devil Dog (Dogman). He says "I writing cause I heard your interview you did with Chris Jerchio. Now I would not call my self a huge believer of Sasquatch but I was more curious than anything so I gave it a listen. But when you started talking about the "devil dog" it struck a cord."

Five, five, four, four, three, three, two, one. One. When I had come down this hill, I had seen this creature cross the road. They would have ripped my locked door from my truck, extracted me from my vehicle, and no one in that damn thing I could have done about it. This thing I got to notice in its eyes. His eyes was real, real evil, real sinister way.

The look it was given. Everybody out inches about six foot. Yes, I'm looking right heading. Sasquatch Chronicle, a place where people share their accounts. Let's start the show. It feels like 1970-something. Like we're all hanging out in Studio 54. Ah, there it is.

Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show planned for you this evening. I want to give a shout out to Robert H. I was just laughing right before I went on the air. I was reading Robert's Twitter method. message and he was saying, thanks for not sounding like a robot. I listened to a lot of other Bigfoot podcasts and the guys sound like robots. Well, it is what it is on this show, Robert. I appreciate

the kind words. You get the good, bad and ugly. You know, sometimes I hit home run. Sometimes I don't. Sometimes I put my foot in my mouth and it is what it is. But I appreciate you listening. Thanks for being here tonight, everyone. Got a great show coming up. I have a Hunter coming up. actually had one of these creatures come up to the back window and look at them. And they spent a long time looking at each other. And gosh, this guy has a great description on what he saw. He talks about the ear placement, talks about its eyes, talked about different things.

You know, he noticed with regard to how thick the hair it was in some places and not in others. So look for that coming up here shortly. I'll also be welcoming Steve to the show. Steve heard me on Talk as Jericho, on Chris Jericho's show, talking about the devil dogs. And he's down there in Alabama, and he came across one of these things, and he has a great description too as well. So look for all of that coming up here in a moment. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch chronicles.com. And if you get a chance to check out the website, Sasquatchronicles.com,

spoke to a great witness on Wednesday night. The show was titled The Neighbors. He just bought this cabin in the middle of nowhere and started having activity, start having these things bang on the walls, look in windows, growl at him. I mean, just constant activity. And it's very fascinating. You know, a lot of these people aren't Bigfoot researchers. They aren't even really into the topic.

This just happens. And one of the things the witness said that was very interesting to me is he went out there one night when they were whooping and hollering in the tree line, took his green laser out there and shined it into the tree line. And he said that these things just went nuts. They sounded like guerrillas just going crazy. And the moment he put that green laser on them, they just went nuts. They went completely nuts. A very fascinating show. Well, let's get into it tonight. I want to welcome Hunter. Hey, Hunter, thanks for coming on tonight. I appreciate you being here. Oh man, no problem, Wes.

I'd just like to get the word out and help anybody who's listening to this show, because I know the show reaches tens of thousands of people, and anybody that doesn't want to talk about it, I understand. But feel free to get the word out. You know, you're not the only person that's seen something. There's somebody seen something because I have, and I know I'm not the only one, so you're not the only one out there, guys, don't feel isolated. I appreciate that, man.

That's very cool of you. I know a lot of people have had encounters. I've had people sit and listen to the show for two years and then finally write in with their encounter. And you're right, they're not the only ones out there. I mean, these things are real. I try and tell people all the time these things are real. One of the reasons why I wanted to do the show was to, you know, instead of having researchers on all the time, you know, have the witnesses on and talk about what they've seen. But kind of start from the beginning.

Where did your encounter take place? If anybody's listening in Ohio, this was happened near Salt Fort State Park. It was the town, not the town on Salt Fort, but it was one of the properties out by Saltford Lake. It's about eight or nine miles from there, if anybody listening knows where I'm talking about. It's a beautiful place, but it's definitely far back in the woods. My encounter happened 2010, I think, it was all going to. August or July, and the reason I say it was August or July, I just remember how hot, you know, that particular day, I just remember some parts about that day just how hot it was. It was just appallingly hot. And I guess we'll just start from, you know, I was in my room. My bedroom was the back bedroom of the trailer that we lived in.

I was on the bed and if anybody lives in a trailer you know that you know I'm sure you've probably seen them west of this trailer windows that are they probably stand seven feet off the ground and they're real wide

they usually touch from wall to wall you know from the bedroom and you know they're they stretch to they're about 10 feet you know you know they get from 7 feet to I'd say about 10 feet

and they're real wide you know this real big trailer windows with the cranks on them that you can flip them out, you know, in case you want some air. And I was lost to the TV show. There was an argument in my house. I was 12 years old at the time. I think it was my parents, you know, as I'm telling it. And I just happened to look out my window and I don't see it at first.

And then I, you know, I go back to my show. But as soon as my eyes transfixed on the TV, something in me was, I don't know, I'm glad I looked, you know, because something in me told me to look, you know, the fighter flight response kicked in, I think, and just said, look. And I looked, and standing in my window was a rather, a very, very large Sasquatch. And, you know, I've got a 57 inch.

chest, which is fairly big for most people. But this thing, I'm telling you, West, it had, if you were to spread your arms, this thing would come up mid-form, it was like how wide this thing is, you know, on both sides. So just way bigger than me. And my first thought was, is it a gorilla? You know, I just, you know, because that's my first thought when I seen it, I don't know why, But then I thought, well, gorillas don't live here. And I didn't know about Fastwatch at the time.

I didn't know anything about it. You know, I just, but I guess I'll get into some of the details first. I remember how broad it was. And I remember the face structure. It had almost a human-like face structured, but the jawbone was way thicker than a human. It looked, you know, it almost looked gorilla-ish. just from the thickness you know

it looked like something you know the king Kong you know how the jaw kind of protrudes outward it's real sick and you know

it's disproportionate to the rest of the face I remember the face very well it was it looked just from the ambient light in the room

I could see they're like it looked like old leather almost just from like how tough this thing's in was. It looked like old leather, like an old pair of bead off other boots, you know, with wrinkles and the nose kind of set back a little bit. Some of the humans

would kind of set back into the face a little bit. And this thing's eyes, you know, this is the thing that I most remember. I remember the most was just the look in this thing's eyes. the red, beady eyes. And, you know, I've had, I've had different flashlights and stuff. You know, you'll get different colors. You'll get different eyes on.

But I remember just the redness of the eyes. It looks, it's a, it was, I can't describe to you how red it was. I've never seen a red dimapagic. And it looked evil. And, you know, it was, when it was standing there, I was looking straight at it,

I was two, three inches away from the window, and this thing was face-to-face with me. You know, because I was up on the bed. The bed's a little bit, you know, how beds are a little bit higher. And if you stand up, you know, if you're a kid that I think I was, I was probably five feet tall at the time. I remember looking at it face-to-face, and this thing was so huge. And I remember the muscles on it. The muscles on it, the hair on its arms is really, really thick. I could tell it looked shaggy.

It looked like the homeless person's head on its arms. You know, just that real shaggy look and hasn't been cut in a while, and it's really, really thick and knotted, matted down. And across the test, there was slight hair, but there was just, there was so little hair that you could see, the muscular structure, the animal, you know, I'm, you know, I'm not a wimp. You know, to be honest with you, I'm kind of tearing up.

Because I'm not a wimp. I'm a cage fighter. You know, that's one, that's a source of income for me. You know, I've been in the hairy situations, but I have never, ever, ever, been that terrified in my whole life. Because I knew if this thing, wanted to reach in that window, there was nothing that I could do about it.

I would have been to lunch meeting, you know. To me, that bothers me. And, you know, it was just scary to me because, number one, I didn't want to sound crazy and just even talking about it, even acknowledging it, brought up the fear of that night. And it's the most terrified I've ever been in my life. I've been shot at, you know, I've had hairy encounters with other. people. I've had bad situations. But nothing has ever brought the fear out of me like that.

I'm curious, how long did it stay there? How long did you guys lock eyes? If I were to say, it was probably free, it was enough time for a commercial to start and come back on the regular TV show. And that it was, it was at least three minutes. But it seemed like it was 10 hours. It just seemed so long. And, you know, I just, I can't tell you just enough how afraid I was. Did the creature's face change at all? Did the expression change it all?

It, man, it just had this evil look in its eyes. You know, it had this, like, you know, like, the movie, the Terminator, you know, where it was just that blank express and that just thousand yards there just pure evil. Yeah, yeah. That was this expression the whole time, very emotionless. It was so emotional that it was like, what is this thing getting ready to do? Did you notice any movement of the eyes?

I mean, was it really looking you up and down, or was it just blank as it was looking through the window? It definitely seen me because it was looking at me, you know, I could see the eyes moving, and, you know, I can see the eyes moving, definitely. You know, I can see the eyes changing from the light in the room. Now, were the eyes, was it reflecting a red? Is that kind of what you saw, kind of a red reflection? I think that's probably what it is, is, you know, a red reflection.

You know, because I don't think it has a red eye tan. I just think it was from the ambient light in the room shining back. You know, maybe if it would have been. been a different color on the TV or a black light, it would have been yellow. I truly don't know. No, and I understand. I just wanted to ask you. In your description's right on, by the way, with what people see. What color was a creature, and was the skin a different color, or was it the same color? From what I could gather, the skin was kind of like, if you've ever had a pair of brown boots and you've Walk through the mud with them and had them a couple of years.

You know how they start to fade into kind of like a, you know, like a black, you know, because they're starting to decay. That's what it reminded me of it. It reminded me of, you know, like old brown, half-wrotted leather. And the hair on it, it was just jet black as black can be. I mean, it was so black, it kind of had a blue tinge to it. That's very interesting. And what did you do next?

Did the creature turn and walk off? I've seen it just turn its head and just a blur. And I just, I remember running into the bathroom and sleeping in the bathroom for the next night because I felt safe. And, you know, it's a clarifying experience. you know, and there's been nice that old place that I felt like something was watching me, you know. It was like I can almost feel something in the air of you're being looked at.

After this incident, did you talk to your parents about it? We were like, hey, I saw something at the back window. Did you tell anyone about it? I remember telling my dad, and he just laughed. You know, my dad, he's this real big. you know, you know, he's like six, he's like six to, like 200 pounds. He's a big guy. And, you know, he's this big, burly guy and, you know, oh, that ain't nothing, buddy. You didn't see nothing. You're just scared. You know, he's like, even so, you know, it ain't that scary. You know,

I wish my dad did have seen it. I wish people could see what I've seen just to know that these things exist. I'm really curious about the face. When you looked at it, I know you had mentioned gorilla. You thought a gorilla had gotten loose, and I know a zoo wasn't far from the property. When you looked at the face, were you thinking it was more human, or were you thinking this is more animal? Or what was your impression? It looked very human. It almost looked neanderphalic.

Maybe it is a better word to describe it. Or, you know, it looked. it looked maybe have you i've got it ever heard of homo erectus absolutely yeah it looked like it looked like it looked like a mix between homo erectus and a neanderthal is what it kind of reminded me of you know maybe you know because i don't have you know i can't explain what i saw other than i saw bigfoot and that's the only logical explanation the size you know the the the the size of the thing, I mean, that window is seven feet up, and it's, did you get the impression that it was looking directly in the window? Did it have to lean down? Or can you give us any details

on that? It, man, it was, it was kind of, you know, like, if, if you're standing out of window and, like, you see something on the ground and you want to look at it, you know, how you're, like, bend your back a little bit, you know, just to look at it. That's, that's what it was doing. It was kind of, you know, just slightly arch in its back, like, look down. the face was looking down, it had, you know, it had, you know, no body fat at all. It just looked, it looked like a cartoon. Like, if somebody were to sit down and draw the perfect King Kong, that that's what they would draw. And was there any facial hair that you noticed? I didn't really notice any, West. I mean, it might have, it might have had a few,

but I didn't notice any facial hair. Oddly enough, the hair on the rest, the like areas on the rest of his body, you would have thought would have had hair was very, very fine. And it was, you know, it looked, it was, it was basically five o'clock chap, you know, just on the rest of its body. But slightly longer, you know, it looked like if you were to not shade for, you know, two weeks and you get that little, you know, stubble beard starting to grow, that's what it reminded me. that's what it looked like on the rest of its body that I could visibly see leather, not leather, but skin. And then it transfixed, you know, just hair. I couldn't see its back.

I'm sure its back was covered in fur, but the thing I remember is if it was a gorilla and it was a gorilla at the zoo, it would be well-groomed. It would be, you know, kept in real good shape, you know, get a haircut, whatever. I can tell this thing has been living in the woods. It must have been terrifying to sit there at the window, literally inches from the window, and it's looking back at you. And then not really having it change expression, just sit there with a blank stare looking at you.

I think that would be almost terrifying. It almost more than if it growled or if it showed its teeth or at least then you know its intention. When they have that blank stare, as I've had witnesses on in the past, it terrifies people because they're not really sure what going to do. They don't really... Yeah, it left me, you know, just like, what's going to happen? You know, if you look at a person and the most dangerous person in the room is the guy that

never changes his face. That's true. You know, because if I see somebody getting visibly upset, I can be like, you know, I'll step off. But if I see that guy just blank staring me, how am I going to know where's my limit to push him? Now, after all of this happened, you had mentioned that feeling of being watched, Had the creature come up any more to that window or had you experienced anything else around the property? I've heard things and, you know, one other thing that I can't explain is, you know, I'm so terrified at somewhere else in the summertime especially when it's hot. You know, you got a door open and you leave, you know, the neighborhood, not the neighborhood, but I live out.

I live there's no neighbors. There was one neighbor. a mile down the road and then there was another neighbor five miles down the other way. If you needed help, it took the sheriff, take the sheriff 45 minutes just to get there. It's kind of like the perfect place to commit a murder because there's nobody there, and it's also the perfect place to disappear. Because there's hardly anybody there. I just, I'll still have things that, like, bother me about it. You know, why was it there?

it going to do to me? I don't know. Was it there because there was an argument and it heard the argument and it's curious? Was it there to destroy my house and I just happened to look and catch it off guard? You know, why was it there? That's my main question. Maybe when we moved in, you know, because there hadn't been anybody living that place and not what for 10 years. Maybe I was in its property. I mean, I don't know. What I can tell you from talking to a lot of witnesses. And this is just my own personal opinion. Again, I'm not too proud to say I could be wrong.

But in that situation, it almost seems like curiosity. You know, I've had witnesses on before in the past where they've come up to windows and their adults now retelling the story. But, you know, as child, not really children. I mean, 13, 14 years old. I mean, we're not talking about two-year-olds, but, you know, people of age. Yeah, I know what you're saying. They'll say, you know, I've had them say, it was.

motioning for me to almost like come outside or come closer to the window or, which I think is completely terrifying. This one, though, its behavior seems more like curiosity. It just kind of came up, was looking at you, was trying to figure out what you were doing, and you were looking back at it. You weren't really, because of fear, you weren't really making any quick motions. You didn't scream. So you guys were just locked eyes, looked at each other. And then, Yeah. It walked off. It almost makes you wonder if it heard something.

You said it turned and there was a flash and it was gone. Yeah. That maybe, maybe, you know, maybe in the dark somewhere, there was the Sasquatch that I didn't see that was, you know, motioning, hey, there, come on. Did you notice any ears or did you notice a neck at all? It's this thing, you know, I've seen most of its upper body. It looked.

The neck, this thing had it. trap, you know, it's, if you've ever looked at some of those bodybuilder guys that have, there's just humongous traps where it doesn't look like they have a neck. It kind of looked like that, but the head, the neck kind of was stuck out from the traps, almost in an awkward fashion. You know, it looked, it looked like you took somebody's neck and squished it down, then put, like, muscles around it. is what I remember it looking like. What about any ears?

Did you notice any ears? Very, very small ears. Smaller than most people's, and they weren't like human ears, you know, where they stick out the side. They look like they're part of the skull itself. It just looked like an opening, you know, to hear out of, you know, not like human ears at all. as, you know, it looked like it was designed for, it was designed for a purpose other than hearing. It looked like it was designed to be protected from something, you know, almost kind of like grew into the side of the skull is what it reminded me of. And that's what you hear a lot of times from witnesses.

You know, they do have necks, but they're very short. The way you described them is exactly the way I've heard it before in the past. very, very short from a distance, any sort of distance, even like 20 feet, looking at it, you would think it didn't have a neck. But being as close as you were, that's how a lot of people describe them and kind of in a different spot. The ears are interesting. That's how people describe them, the ears too, very close-cropped, not like human ears. And a lot of times people don't see the ears because of the hair. But the ones who do get to see the ears, they are.

you know, just the way you described him. Very close crop, not like human ears. How big were the eyes compared to, let's say, your eyes? My eyes, you know, I've got, you know, just your average size eye. This thing was take your hand and circle, you know, like make a cup kind of without your hands connecting. make a you with your hand, with your hands just almost as close as you can without touching and put them on your eyes. That's how big it was, and the skull was way bigger than mine, way wider.

You know, and I've got a big head. I'll admit that. I've got a big old head. Yeah. But it's way bigger than mine. It's way bigger. I want to say something else about the years. They don't, they're not on the sides of our heads like we are.

they're almost closer to the skull itself. You know, like our ears, you know, you've got, you've kind of got your jawbone and they start, they kind of start at your jawbone almost. And they go behind, this thing was closer to the skull. When you say that, what do you mean, like higher up and back? It looked, it looked like if you take an ear and scoot it forward an inch, and if you could physically move in the ear forward the base of the ear forward an inch or two

that to me describes it perfectly very very primate like you know if you've ever seen a gorilla's ears that your ears almost look like they're higher you know like said higher up and they're very close crop

they're very small to the head and they're a little bit closer I think they're a little bit closer to the other than they're already on it You know, I couldn't tell you that, you know, the exact dimensions on the skull, you know, without fitting the skull. Because I don't know if anybody's ever seen our skull, our skull, if you were to take our skull, it doesn't look like what our skull you think our skull would look. You know, if you're going to take a little kid and all right, draw me what you think the skull looks like, you know, very square. But it doesn't.

Our skulls look completely different than what you would think they would if you had no knowledge of biology, you know. Yeah, it's a fascinating, fascinating encounter. I mean, it's something I'm sure it'll be with you until the day you die. And I'm sure it changed your whole world outlook on what's out there and what's not actually out there. It did, man. It made me think, you know, before that I kind of had this, you know, there's a lot of people with this ego that have met, especially hunters. I'm a fellow hunter myself. I love to hunt.

I'm very an avid outdoors. and I'll spend weeks upon weeks in the outdoors. But, you know, we've got their VEvoysos and I'm learning this just from, you know, especially after that, I've learned that humans aren't the top of the future. There's something off there that will kill you. The only reason we're so big is we have guns and we have those. If we were, if humankind was before the stonades, before anything, we'd be the prey.

We'd be the deer. Yeah, you're right. You're absolutely. You're right. Hunter, you, you ran in, where did you run into the DNR officer at? Was that in... I was in the middle of nowhere in the Saltford State Park. And tell us what happened. We were in the middle of nowhere, you know, I was just looking around, I was camping.

It was way out of hunting season. And I remember hearing something in the woods, very thin off, like, a how, you know, the classic, Like, whoa, you know, just way on. And I know that sucks, but that's a sucky pal. That's all right. You know, I just kind of heard that. I think I heard the last part of it. I heard something that sounded human, you know.

You know, humans, if you've ever heard a human walk in the woods, you know what the human sound is. I heard these steps, and I also heard something that was, it sounded like an animal just running and chasing something is what I remind me of. It reminded me a very fast chase. And then later on, I come upon this trail. I can tell a human trail.

I can see machete marks. I can see. I remember there was a cigarette butt or two. Oh, that's me that, you know, that kind of pissed me off. I was like, all right, if this is somebody, I'm going to give them hell. and I came upon this DNR officer shortly after finding that cigarette but he comes to me

and he's like you know I'm not going to say exactly what he said I'm paraphrasing a little bit for the listeners he said well are you messing with me he said it you know he said some expletives are you messing with me if you're messing with me I'm going to kill you

and I will bury you and I won't get in trouble for because I'm not the person you mess with. Don't mess with me. You're very, it pissed me off because, number one, you're a DNR officer,

you're supposed to represent people, you're supposed to be the person. And you hear that in my life, you know, I don't care if I've got a gun or not. I'll hit you with a gun. You know, I don't want to kill you,

but if you try to kill me, you better hope I don't get to you first. What was he referring to? And I think, you know, eventually, I got him to call him, down.

He's like, dude, I've seen, I think I've seen a big foot. He's like, I know Bigfoot still exist. But if I was a believer, I'd say it was a Bigfoot. But I think it's a man in a monkey suit. You're the only person I've seen around here. And you ain't big enough to be this thing. So if you got a buddy around here, you need to tell him stop being the bitch. You know, I'm sorry about that.

you know, stop, you know, stop being a wimp and face me like, man, you know. Very, I think he felt very threatened from what I gathered. I can tell when somebody is being standoffish because they feel like they're in a threat and they have to say something to scare that person off. That's what I gathered from that. So obviously someone or something was messing with them, and probably off the vocals you heard, it wasn't a someone. You know, I guess so tired of hearing the monkey suit argument from people.

It's like, really, how many people going by monkey suits and run around in the forest? Yeah, I mean, I've heard, you know, the argument of the Patterson Gimlich footage was a Hollywood stuntman that did movies where he would dress up like he was in a monkey suit. And he said he had this real, like, gorilla walk, this dry. And I've heard that, I was like, first of all, nobody's going to, nobody can pay me that much. to do that because that messes with the people's heads that are non-believers. And that makes skeptics out of more people, which pisses me on. It really is a ridiculous argument.

I mean, even here in the Pacific Northwest, and generally speaking, the Pacific Northwest is pretty liberal. But you get on a monkey suit, you're running around out there in the woods, and that's a quick way to get shot out here, because the hunters out here will put a bullet in you if they see something like that. Oh, yeah, yeah. Even I would, you know, if I had, you know, I don't want to say, I would only kill a Bigfoot if it was threatening me if it was, you know, if I see one, then if I think, you know, because I've seen one before, if I'm a good enough distance away, I'm going to slowly pull out my camera, my phone, whatever, I've got on me. take a video, take a couple of pictures, if I can. Then I'm going to go to, I'm going to go to somebody.

If I ever do, I'll send you the video if I can get a video. Well, yeah, I know if you ever get anything, let me know. And I appreciate it, man. And I appreciate you coming on and sharing the encounter. You know, when you're that close to them, that piece of glass really is nothing. and so I can't even imagine how terrified you must have been at the time. And just knowing, I guess being a hunter now, it doesn't sound like it affected you going back out in the woods, but you know what else is out there, you know?

Yeah, I mean, I'm not a big believer. I believe aliens are possible. I'm pretty big in the science and space and the exploration, whatever. Aliens might be possible, you know, are they, nobody, nobody's really going to know. and, you know, I'll definitely give your brother's show, listen, I'm not a very, a long time to say, I'm not a very big paranormal believer. Is it possible? Yes, 100%. We humans and know almost nothing about science. Is it possible? Yeah. And so, but I'm not a very big believer in it. I'm a, I'm a scientist. I have to see it for myself. I have to see the evidence. I have to, you know, I have to see it.

A lot of people are that way. You know, they have to see it. And especially in this topic, the way it's presented most of time, especially in this topic, people have to see it to believe it. It's like I always say, be careful what you wish for because that might just happen. You know, God works in mysterious ways. You're absolutely right. Well, Hunter, I really do appreciate you coming on, man, and sharing the experience.

It's one of those things that, like I said, it's going to stick with you the rest of your life, and you had a great description. And, you know, I think even being a grown man like me, I'd be terrified, man, being a couple inches away. So thank you so much for coming on and sharing it. Yeah. Well, no problem. I just like, yeah, Wes, no problem, man.

If you ever, if you ever want to have me back on the podcast, just give me a call, say, but message me. You know, maybe we could do, you know, I know, I know you have an hour of free. content, which is usually stories, and then usually the last hour of pay content, usually, you know, just talk about different things on the web and whatever. If you want to do that with me, anything, feel free, well. I appreciate that, man. And make it easy on you, man.

Thanks, brother. And thanks for sharing. All right, man, no problem. Have a blessed day. Well, next up, I want to welcome Steve to the show. Hey, Steve, thanks for coming on, man. I appreciate you coming on tonight and telling us. about what you saw.

Yeah, it ain't no problem, man. You're welcome. And if you would, kind of start from the beginning. I know you're out in Alabama. For the audience, just walk them right into what happened and what you saw, what you experienced. It was early Saturday morning. You know, my dog, I put my dog in the car. We went out for a drive, and I went up in the, uh, China, the backwoods area. It's way out of the city.

and we were just driving around well my dog started wanting to be let out so I let my dog out and whenever I let my dog out when I just sat around with him did his thing well I got to looking where we were there was another road kind of coming up to a tee

and I was just looking down that road well whenever I started looking at that road I knew that there was just pick black. It looked like a wolf to me. So I turn around and check on my dog, but when I turn back around,

this thing's standing up on its, on its hind legs. You know, that really freaked me out. Now, I'm watching this thing, and all of a sudden, you know, it literally took a step, you know, like walking.

At that point, just to be honest with you, I said, well, the hell with this, I set my dog up. And, you know, I got in the car. Well, when I got in the car, the way out, I had to go buy this thing. So when I got in the car and creaked the car up, I'm watching the whole time. One of our creaked car up, he knows that he instantly I was there.

Then whenever I turned the corner, he, which I think he knew I was there before. but whenever I turned the corner he drops all fours and it's speed like I've never saw he just fares across the road but whenever he was running across the rig

he was pissed off I mean he looked pissed off he's shaking his head like you know I don't know like he was mad and like I say man it's just nothing I've ever saw before You know, and I've never saw anything before in my life, and I don't just credit people that do see things. I mean, that's, you know, I don't, you know, it's not my place to tell somebody else what they saw or not.

But, you know, but I've never really believed. Well, you know, I mean, it's really good, it really makes me question. No, yeah, and that would make you question things. I know you heard me on Talk as Jericho when I was talking to Chris about the devil dogs, and down in California, I mean, they're pretty open about it. The Border Patrol guys down there are pretty open about this devil dog thing they run into. And they describe it just like you did, Steve. I mean, it stands up on two legs, kind of looks at them.

I wanted to ask you, when you were looking at this thing, how far away from you were this saying? Probably, I would say, 50, 75 yards. Probably not even that far. You know, I mean, you know, and that's just estimating. you know, a wild gas. Yeah, no, and that's okay. I was more concerned with, you know, getting on out of there and getting around civilians,

I mean, because, like I say, where I was, you know, I mean, there's a couple of houses out there, but there's not many people out there at all. It's just woodlands and girt roads, basically. So you're in a pretty remote location. How long, how many steps did it take? when it was standing up? It took.

I saw with my own eyes, you know, and it was, you know, didn't have no problem with balance or anything like that. Like I say, it just,

you know, once it did that, that was the point where I was, okay, I'm kind of overlooking at this thing, you know, let me get out of here.

How tall would you say the creature was compared to, like yourself, Steve, when you're looking at it, when it was standing up? Between maybe 6-4? It was definitely taller to me. I'm 5'8.

You know, I have no doubt he was taller than I was. Yeah, and that's interesting that it was that tall. I know, like I said, I hate going back to the Border Soul guys. Well, I can even give you a better story. I was telling you the other day about the state trooper that almost hit one. And he said that he thought it was a wolf until it stood up. and it looked right at him. And he's describing to me what he saw.

And he's like, man, this thing was probably, I think he said around 6'5. And it was pretty big. But he said it was basically a wolf standing up on two legs looking right at him. And he described the body as being kind of the upper body being real wide and then going down to a real skinny waist and then kind of being like dog legs. I mean, it was a real weird description. I wanted to ask you, how would you describe the creature?

No, exactly the same. he was, the head was real wolf-like. The upper torso part of him, or his chest was, was real muscular. I mean, very muscular, almost pit bullish-like. But, you know, not to be, not to be funny, you know, his lower half looked like a bodybuilder that's hip-leg day, you know what I mean? Yeah. Just, just, you know.

It's kind of disproportionate if that makes sense. Yeah, and it's interesting you say that because that's basically what he said, very unproportioned. The lower legs were a lot smaller. Did you notice any hands? Did it have hands or claws, or did you even notice that at the time? I didn't, honestly, I didn't even, you know, I didn't notice, you know, like I say, once, once, once, once, once, once, once, once, once, once, I didn't even. He just stood up and took them step, took them two steps. You know, it was all about getting out of there.

And I'm not believing he ran across the road. I mean, it surprised me that he ran across the road. Something must have been over there that he wanted to get at because he could easily turn back around. No, I understand that completely, you know, especially when you're in that position and you're terrified. So nice people don't really pay attention to the details. I'd imagine it threw you off as soon as you saw this wolf stand up like a man.

and take a couple steps. One of the things I think is very interesting about your story. You know, and I've talked to other people about this, too, that have experienced the same thing you did, that your impression was it was shaking its head like it was mad or it was angry or in a rage at some kind. And that's kind of a very interesting detail to bring up. Well, my impression was that he was mad or enraged that he was seen,

that someone saw him, if that makes sense, Steve. And like I said, like I told you before, he just hadn't done so real... And I'm not one to... You know, I'm nothing special or nothing like that, but I'm not one to get scared of quickly, you know what I'm saying? But this right here, yeah, this was all a whole new level. It just, you know, I didn't know what I was looking at.

Yeah, when you mentioned evil, what was it about it that made you think this thing's evil? Well, like I said, when it was running, I kind of got to look at his head, and it's just the way that his eyes was, you know, just the way his facial was just, I almost can't explain it. It's just, you know, the way he looked, it's just the value he put off. And I'm not beating you up by any means. Almost every witness I talk to when they see these dogmen or devil dogs or whatever you want to call them, which I think is a separate species than Bigfoot.

Most every witness, actually I can say every witness I've ever spoken to said it was evil. Said there was something evil about it. There was something not right about it. And that's interesting because, you know, with a lot of Bigfoot encounters, you'll get that sometimes from people. They'll say it was evil. I know like I just had Hunter on the show, and he's looking at the red eyes,

and he's looking at the saying, so you can kind of anticipate he would say it was evil. But I would say most of the time with Sasquatch encounters, you don't get that. But with these dog man encounters, almost every single time people say it was evil. It just, the vibe it gave off. And the feeling I had was I needed to get away from the saying.

Yeah, I have no doubt in my mind. It's just to us and tried to do some damage. Yeah, no, and that's what you hear about these dogmen, double dogs, again, whatever title you want to give them. That's what you hear most of the time from people. They were very aggressive, very violent, and had no qualms about coming after you, which is interesting because it's a little bit different than Sasquatch. You know, sometimes with Sasquatch, they'll get up and walk away,

or it's more of a curiosity, and they'll get up and walk away. I mean, sometimes you do get a lot of violent encounters with them. I was talking to one of the tribal elders here in Washington State, and he told me, he goes, Wes, I don't think we have them here in Washington State, but if you see one, shoot it. Don't think twice, blast it, you know. And I thought that was kind of an interesting thing for him to say, because his take on Sasquatch was a little bit different.

He still had no qualms about shooting one, but he said with these dog man things, just blast them. and so it makes you wonder what are they what what are what is it that people are seeing and going back to your encounter steve it's very consistent one thing i can say is it's very consistent across the board on what people are seeing most of the time they think they're a wolf until they stand up and then you know i've had hunters on that said it was the biggest wolf i'd ever seen and then it stood up like a man and that's what threw me off and it acted different than a wolf once i realized this really is isn't a wolf.

Right, right. Oh, yeah, totally. I'll put it to you like that. And honestly, you're saying, I mean, I have nothing against hunting. But now when I'm out and a boom, my head would be on swivel. Well, no one can blame me there. I don't blame me for being on swivel. You know, you've seen something very few people get to see.

And they're out there. They're down there in the south. I mean, I get reports of them all the time down there. So, you know, be careful when you're out there, you know? No doubt. You know, and I, you know, I make sure not to leave anywhere without some type of protection, you know what I mean. Yeah, and that's the best way to go, I think. Yeah.

Well, Steve, I appreciate you coming on. It's a fascinating encounter, and like I said, it's something that a lot of people are seeing out in those woods. You know, this dog man, this devil dog, I have a lot of law enforcement. have seen them, and they're terrified by them. I'm just glad that you weren't hurt. Your dog wasn't hurt, and you're able to tell the story, so thank you for coming on. I'm glad we wasn't hurt, too. And yeah, man, you're welcome.

And like I say, if I ever see anything else again, you'll be the first one I come. Thanks, buddy. I appreciate it. Yes, sir. You're welcome. And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com.

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