Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:223 Something on my property

Episode Date: May 30, 2016

A listener writes: "Hey, I just started to listen to the show after having a sighting behind my house in east Texas. I moved in this place 2 months ago. I hear them often not yelling or anything like that. I did hear knocking in the front of the house, tree breaking and I found tree structures. There are lots of deer in the area and I have a drainage creek behind my house. So I think they may have been hunting here. No one lives in the house for a year before I bought it. This last Sunday I heard my dog in the woods and it sounded like it was got hurt. I ran out of the house and there was my dog sitting in the front and nothing was wrong. I think that the Bigfoot made that sound to get me or the dogs in the woods. Latter that night my wife was on the porch and heard something banging around and the heard tree branches braking on the other side of the yard. She came and got me I didn't here anything but she said it had to be two of them. I also saw a print that might be from Bigfoot. It was 12″ long 6″ wide. The Bigfoot was about 7′ tall was at twilight so it looked like a dark shadow very upright with a round head and big shoulders no neck, long legs. I didn't notice the arms. I am wondering if they could be watching us and may harm us. I'm doing my best to give them there space. Thanks for your time. If you have any insight let me know thanks" I will also be welcoming Duke to the show. Duke stops by to discuss his conspiracy theories and info on past insider shows.

Five, five, four, four, three, three, two, one, one. When I had come down this hill, I had seen this creature cross the road. They would have ripped my locked door from my truck, extracting me from my vehicle, and there wasn't a damn thing I could have done about it. This thing I got to notice in its eyes. His eyes was real, real evil, real sinister looking. You know, the look it was given me.

Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That's son of a bitch is about six foot. Sir? Yes, I'm looking right at him. Saskwatch Chronicle. In place where people share their accounts. Let's start the show.

Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show planned for you tonight. I have two guests lined up. Johnny's going to be coming on to talk about his property out in East Texas. He just recently moved to this property. It's had a lot of strange things happen and even had a sighting one night when him and his wife were sitting out back. so look for that here in a moment.

Duke from World Bigfoot Radio is going to be on the show, and Duke wanted to follow up with me on some of the insider information. I'm thinking about calling it a conspiracy corner with Duke. It's stuff I never really get a chance to get into with the show, and it being Memorial Day weekend, it'll be nice to kind of sit back, relax, just talk about some stranger stuff than Bigfoot. So we'll be doing that too later on this evening. how's your three-day weekend treating you?

I hope you do have a three-day weekend. Like I said, on Friday night's show, back when I worked for the man, it seemed like I was always working on weekends like this, you know, where it's a holiday weekend. And for some reason, I always found myself working on those weekends. But anyway, that's neither here nor there. Thank you again for being here tonight. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show,

shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sass You can hit me up on Twitter under SasquatchCron. If you go to Facebook, look up Sasquatch Chronicles. You'll find a group. You know, a lot of different ways to contact me, but shoot me your encounter. If you've had anything strange happen while you're out there, definitely shoot me an email. And a lot of fun things to get to tonight.

Let's jump right into it. Johnny, welcome to the show. Thanks for being here tonight. Thank you. And I appreciate you. Give me a call and give me the time. Yeah, absolutely. I was pretty interested in your encounter or several encounters, you know, by call them little mini encounters. Exactly.

Tell us about this property. When did you guys move into it? We moved in this year, in mid-March. When did you first start noticing stuff going on around the property? It had been the first week. We had some stuff that happened. The first incident, it was early in the night, but it was pitch black outside. And I just moved in. So I wanted to check out the fireplace. So I put on a little headlamp and start walking towards the edge of the yard to grab some firewood.

As I got to the edge of the porch, I noticed some eyes, some eye glist there. and I looked back at it and I'm expecting, you know, it's wildlife and once the light hit him, expecting for it to be scared or, you know, run off. But it didn't. It just, like, stay there and stared at me. And I really couldn't see the body

to make out exactly what kind of animal it was. Basically, I can say that, you know, it had big eyes. They were somewhat... far apart, so I knew it couldn't be something like a raccoon or something smaller than that. And as I stood there, I just kind of got this, kind of like a fear, I guess you can say, came over where I didn't feel really safe. So I started slowly backing up because I was feeling like that, even though it seemed to be like maybe three foot off the ground. I really didn't know what it was.

So I started backing up slowly because I know there can be like wild hogs and other things like that around here. So I started backing up. And once I got to the gate to the porch, probably wasn't the brightest idea. I probably wouldn't do it again. But I decided I let the dogs out because I feel like, you know, they would scare whatever it was away. So as I was approaching back to the area, the dogs, they weren't barking. And they really didn't seem that no, there's anything there. They were just, like, sniffing the ground in front of me.

And as I approached, I saw the eyes again. It was still there staring at me. You know, but maybe a few seconds went by, and then it noticed the dogs coming closer to the edge of the woods. You can tell by how the eyes were that it turned, and then it, like, shuffled it off. And I still wasn't for really for sure what it was. it could be like any kind of wildlife. It just kind of like, we're just kind of like, you know, wow, that's kind of creepy, you know, got a creepy feeling from it.

Day so later, I was on the porch and I noticed by the, this old tin shed that we have right before you enter the woods, there's these two like skinny trees that were broken off at the same height, probably about seven to eight foot. tall. And I was like, man, that's really strange looking. And so I went over there and I pushed on one of them and just fell over. And another one, I just pulled it out of the ground. I was like, well, these aren't even trees. These are just like tree limbs that someone just stuck in the middle of the ground there. And I just thought it was this kind of weird place to put tree limbs. And, you know, that was it. And then the other little mini thing that happened, the week that

we moved in, it was storming outside, you know, thundering and things like that, and raining pretty hard. It was about three or so in the morning, and I couldn't sleep, so I was in bed just messing around with myself on looking on Facebook or whatever, you know, and trying to pass the time to I was able to feel sleepy again, and I heard a big bang, and I was like, what is that? and I thought that maybe the door of the shed, something like that flew open from the wind. And then I heard it again. And I was like, you know, that actually sounds kind of like a knock.

And I heard it again. And it sounded like, you know, it was just like right outside the house. And so I woke up my wife and I was like, hey, listen, I think there's an animal or somebody out there making this weird knocking noise. And so we're listening for it. And I was like, you know, of course, now that I woke you up, probably won't happen again. But it did. She heard it. And I was like, well, should I go out there and see what it is?

And she was like, well, if you do, you might want to take a gun with you because it sounds pretty big. And it just sounded very powerful. And we heard it again, and that was it. So it was like this kind of knocking. And then next day we was talking about it. And I was like, what do you think that was? You know, it's still kind of just got me thinking about it's kind of a little disturbing. And she was like, I don't know.

She was like, but I want to, maybe we should start making sure our car is locked up at night because it sounded like it might be, you know, maybe a person making that noise. And she's like, I don't think an animal would be able to do that. And I was like, well, where do you think that it was? And she's like, I think it was probably on the porch. And I was like, well, that's, you know, pretty creepy. Was it hitting the house? No, it wasn't hitting the house.

It was hitting something, but it didn't sound like it was really hitting the house. It could have been maybe hitting the porch because it did sound like wood on wood type sound like a big like pop, you know, like a big bang, you know, like I saw that just up like a wap. That's interesting. Your wife, it was a lot enough to where your wife was like, hey, I think it was on the porch. I get what you're saying now. Yeah, yeah. The dogs are always kind of barking, but, you know, their dogs, they bark at all kinds of stuff. So it's like, you know, you always kind of hear things.

There's a lot of deer around here, and there's hogs and stuff like that's coming through the property. And so you kind of just kind of just brush off stuff, you know, of it could be, you know, anything of, you know. But I guess we probably was here, I guess probably like three weeks into three weeks. and then we're sitting on the porch at the table. The dogs jumped up and ran to the gate of the porch and wanted out. They smelt something and wanted to go investigate it. So I went ahead and just let them out. They took off running towards the right side of the house and to the woods.

And they weren't gone that long. And they came back running back just as fast as they ran there. But they came in. I got up, went and shut the gate, sat back down at the table, and I'm actually facing the back of the woods. And then I saw a movement, and I thought, you know, oh, a deer. So I looked at it, and it didn't look like a deer. It was, had two legs, tall, braw shoulders in a round head. And it kind of like set it kind of like on the shoulders.

Like I'm sure it had a neck, but you couldn't see like a neck like you would if it was a person. Unfortunately, this old tin shed thing that's in the back, it walked. And when it walked, the 10 shed blocked the view of it. And when it passed, I was kind of like, I didn't say nothing to my wife because I was kind of like still trying to figure out, okay, I just saw something and don't know what it was. And I was just kind of just thinking. well, it didn't have high legs. Bears are really rare around here, and I go, it really didn't, the head just didn't look like, to me, it would have been the body and something just didn't look like it would have been a bear. Was it walking upright the whole time?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and something I couldn't put my finger on it, because I didn't see it for long, but something was, that tells me there was something kind of weird with the legs, like how I knew, you know what I mean? Like, maybe they were, like, kind of long. and just the way it kind of like stelt. It was kind of strange, you know, so I don't know, like I really don't think it was a person. And recently my brother came over and he's just a normal size guy at 5-11. And I asked him if he'd be willing to walk out to where I saw the figure just to give me an idea what it would be like with a human, you know, a normal person being there.

Yeah, comparison. And, yeah, and it was a lot bigger than him as far as, like, body size. And it was taller than him and asked him to, you know, raise his hands up and tell him when to stop. And then when he came back to me, I took out tape measure and asked him to put his hands back where he thought that he had it risen to. And I measured approximately seven foot. So I was like So we're like yeah that can't be a person Most people aren't that tall

You know But when I saw it before I told my wife I saw it I was still trying to like Figure out And I was just what it was because I didn't see a snout You know like a muzzle on it So I was like well it couldn't have been an animal And you know

And I've seen no pictures online Of Bigfoot and things like that And I was like, you know, it really didn't look like that either because I'm thinking, you know, what's normally what you might see like in, you know, Northern California and those type of places. That's where I lived in the past, you know, 23 years. So that's kind of like what I think of Bigfoot more like the gorilla head with the almond shape, you know, at the top, you know, little mound or whatever on top the head. Right. And I was like, it didn't look like that. either. I don't know what it was. So I started

kind of thinking, man, did I just say a ghost? You know, some kind of shadow. Because it looked like a shadow, and if it wasn't it moving, I probably would never even saw it. The only reason I noticed it because I saw the movement of it. And then

when I'm trying to figure out, you know, what could have that had been? I mean, my wife heard something really kind of heavy stepping, I guess you can say. coming to the right of us of the house in the little woods there and she just kind of laugh and she's like, what is that? And I was like, I have no idea.

And she's like, I can't believe the dogs got up, ran off to go see something that we didn't even, you know, that we couldn't even hear. And here we are we hearing this walking. And they're not even like barking or anything. anything. And I was like, I was like, and that's when I told her, I was like, well, you know, I just saw something really big walk, walk, walking back there. And I don't know what it, what it could have been. And, um, and she asked what it looked like. And I described it to her. And, you know, and we heard it walking towards us, you know, closer to us. But then once we

kind of start talking, um, it, it, it, I really didn't hear the sound anymore. So I don't know if it actually stopped or if it just kept on walking. But it's just kind of like I thought, you know, I wonder if that what the dogs might have smelt or heard and took off running, then maybe made it walk another direction. And maybe they had to run in. Maybe they had it run in with it and just didn't want to have to face it again. So that's why they're being so quiet. But, but yeah, we're, you know,

really don't know what it could have what it was so um you know i watch you know the tv shows that's on discovering it in an animal planet and stuff like that so um i thought well let me research it a little bit more so i start listening to podcasts and doing a little bit more some Google searches, and then I found out there's more than one type of Bigfoot. And so now I was like, wow, you know, maybe I did see that because from what I've learned was that down in the south, they say that it resembles more of a chimpanzee than a gorilla. And it makes sense because it had a little bit more, it had more of a rounded head. then a gorilla.

So I kind of thought, well, maybe I did, you know, had a visual sighting of a big foot around here, you know. When you first saw the shadows and it moving, I can understand you thinking, did I just see a ghost? Or, you know, if you have no reference really to put it to, there's really no explanation. And they do move kind of weird.

They don't, it's not quite like a person. And it's that description of what you give, kind of the football player shoulder pads, helmet right on top, you know, the big roundhead. Yeah. I get that a lot from your head. What did you guys do next? Did you guys just sit there or did it?

We just sat there. We're just kind of like, I'm just kind of like, you know, we continued our evening night, like usual, you know. We're out there, you know, talking, having some cigarettes, you know, smoking cigarette. You know, we just kind of like, what was that? And I was like, and I told her I saw something,

and really can't explain what it was, you know, what it could have been. And I was like, you know, I was like, I don't know. I was like, you think it could have been a person, you know? And it's because we're talking about basically we started talking about how heavy it sounded. It sounded like, I don't know, something that weighed a lot, you know, it didn't sound something like walking through. And also what got me kind of curious about the way it was walking was like, you know, why would it want me to hear it? You know, I kind of feel like most animals are kind of shy and don't want any kind of attention.

I kind of feel like brought to it. So I kind of wondered if it was coming maybe to check us out, but want it. I don't know. You understand what I'm trying to get at? It's like, you know, why would it make noise? when I kind of feel like it probably wouldn't have to. Kind of like I'm here type of walking. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was really heavy and, you know, loud. And it's, you know, it's mainly a lot of leaves and some sticks and stuff like that. And it was clear it was stepping on things and wasn't at all trying to hide itself. And I can understand. You know, a lot of people, they'll probably wonder why didn't you yell at it or, but when you see it and you're trying to process, what you're looking at and you're like, well, a person doesn't make sense. I mean, I could kind of see you standing there just kind of looking at the way this thing's moving.

How far away from you do you think the creature was? I say maybe 20 yards. Oh, wow. So it's pretty close. Yeah, it's really close, yeah. Yeah. It was right there, yeah. Did you guys smell anything by chance?

No, no. We didn't smell anything. And there's been like one night. My wife said that she kind of smelled something, but I really didn't smell it. And I work for, I work as animal control officers. So, you know, I dealt with skunks and stuff like that. So when a skunk sprays, you smell it. You know, there's no doubt that there's a skunk in the area.

And that kind of way that people have. describe the smell, I kind of feel like it would be the same way, you know, because they're saying it was like the most awful smell that they ever smelled. So I kind of thought, well, you know, I don't think that's, was it. But, um, but no, I didn't have any smell and I really haven't smelt, smelt anything. Have you gone around the property and looked for tracks or anything like that? Um, yeah. Um, a couple days after, actually, Actually, I was in the back going towards the where I have the water hose. I was going to fill up the dogs on water bowl.

And there was actually an ant hill, believe it not, that had like a print in it. And I took a snapshot of it. And I asked my wife, you know, I was like, hey, you mind just going to look at that ant hill? And she went and she looked at it. And I was like, what do you think of it? she goes, it looks like a footprint's in it. And I was like, yeah.

So I measured, I measure like 12 inches by, I think it was like six inches at the widest part. And, you know, it was an antheels. So it wasn't all that perfect. But one thing that I noticed from it that was different is that the big toe was off to the side a little bit, kind of like a person's dome. Yeah. I guess you can say.

And I was trying to count how many tolls it was, but I really couldn't tell, like, you know, if it was three or four, because it wasn't very clear. But you can kind of like see that it was like, you know, so little toes there. One of the questions I want to ask you is, did you have, have you heard any vocalizations around the property? It's been fairly quiet. I mean, when we first, when we first moved in, there was a lot of calories, Allen and stuff like that. And every now on then, we might hear something. It was like, what was that, you know? But the calories, I kind of feel like they had moved on.

You don't hear them that much anymore. And it's been, you know, fairly quiet as far as that. But last weekend, I was out outside. It was probably around like 10.30, so at night. And me and my wife was outside actually together. And I don't know how to describe it. I guess it's like a big yelp, kind of long, kind of long out. And we were just kind of like, what was that?

And I was like, and we just looked at each other. And I was like, I'm going inside. She goes, well, you don't have to tell me twice. So we went inside. And, you know, I kind of really feel like that was probably a. a bigfoot sound. And the fall in night, I was outside. Kent recalls actually what time it was,

but probably close about the same time. And I heard, like, I guess a base way I can really explain it. It sounds like an ape. You know, going, whoop. I really can't repeat the sound of it. But it was like a big, big, like, whoop. And then I heard another one go, whoop, what, after it? It sounded like primate type sounds out there.

Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, after that, I just kind of went inside, you know. I mean, that's pretty much for us, like, you know, vocals. A lot of times, you know, I think inside the house, you really can't hear too much that's going on because you have the TV on and things like that and you're talking. Right, yeah. There was an incident with your dog, wasn't there?

Yeah, I was on the couch watching TV And it was like the middle of the day And I heard my dog I have a couple dogs But you know all dogs If you know your dogs They have a certain bark To them

You know where if they bark you know Which dog it is And I heard it bark a couple times And it kind of yelped Like something heard Something had heard it You know Like it was hurt

and so I jumped up real quick and ran outside, but my dog was right there in the front yard. That's strange. Yeah, it like spooked me out a little bit. And I told my wife about it, you know, she's like, well, did you go look? Maybe there's an injured dog back there. And I was like, no, I didn't go look. I go, plus I had my two-year-old daughter with me, and, you know,

I didn't want to leave her unattended or bring her out through. with me. So I just left it be. I've had a witness one time on the past. I talked about that. He kind of started out the way your property is kind of starting out. And he said that one time he heard his dog crying in pain. And so he climbed down this ravine because that's where he heard it. And he got down there and it was just starting to get dark. And he realized his dog wasn't down there. And he started getting surrounded by these things. And so he ran back up the ravine and his dog was sitting on his front porch. But he's like, I swear it was my dog out there.

It was hurt. So just strange. You know, I just wonder, do you hear that? You run out there. Your dog's sitting right there. And I know you're kind of in a remote location too. So it's not like you can touch the neighbor's house next door and it was his dog, you know.

Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, you know, I mean, there's neighbors, but everybody owns like several acres. And, you know, you can hear the dog that's barking, but you can tell that it's from this. this location. And this was like, it sounded like it was actually just behind my house.

You know, basically maybe just like 10 and 15 yards if I was to walk out in the woods. Yeah. So, and it was like really clear. You know, it was like, no, I was like, there's no doubt that's, that's my dog.

Well, I'd be careful while you're out there. I think if they were going to be completely aggressive with you, they would have done it by now. Yeah, I started to kind of feel like that too. I think that at first there was a lot of activity. I think the only other thing, I guess it was maybe a couple weeks ago.

My wife was out on the porch, and she came in, and she's not really scared. She's like, she's like, Johnny got to come out here. She's like, I don't know what it is, but there's two things. There has to be two of them. First thing I said, come in and lock the door. And I was like, explain to me, you know, what happened? And she's like, we have like a chicken coop. And she said it sound like something around the chicken coop.

But then again, right, I have a little patch of a wooded area right in our front of the house, past our lawn. And she's like, unless something ran through the darkness where I didn't see it, but now there's something that's in there and it's snapping limbs. A couple of days later after that, I went in there and I felt, um, like a tpee type structure, you know, that in my eyes, I mean, I don't know exactly, you know, how else it would be able to get there. And I showed a couple of my family members, and they were like, yeah, that looks strange. It's, you know, how can all these, like, limbs fall just like that and make a kind of like a blind, like a tpee in the area where you can get inside of it and sit down.

down. And right there, when I was looking around, I was looking for some tracks and that kind of stuff. The only thing I really found was deer tracks because it's all a lot of leaves. And you can tell it was deer tracks because the ground was wet and they kind of stick into the mud, you know. The thing about it was also kind of weird is that there was a path. Well, there's a path that goes from our front lawn that goes kind of like through the

little wooded area to the street. and I noticed that it was blocked off with some limbs had been placed there or had fallen from a tree by chance, but it's both the entrance and the exit. So when you walk through, it kind of looks like if you follow the path of the deer, it goes through,

you pass that little, that tempi type structure, a wooden structure, you come through, and then there's both sides of the path, there's like a, It's sticking the ground on both sides of the path with big limbs that kind of come off of it. And it kind of looks like a way that you could herd maybe some animals like through that. Like it's only meant to either to enter or to exit from.

I wanted to ask you, why did your wife say there was two of them? What made her think there was two? Just because like the time frame, I guess, of the noise, she felt like it couldn't have. And plus she was looking towards the direction of the chicken coop. And it's dark. You really can't see around there. But you can see the chicken coop. And she said it sounded like something was shaking it.

And I got her attention. So she looked over there. And as she was looking, then she started hearing limbs breaking and snap. right in front of her in that little wooded area. So she was like, it has to be like two of them unless the one that was making the noise was able to run over that quick and also had to run through a way where she couldn't see it, like in the darkness, like where the light wasn't shining from our light that we have.

I got you. Yeah. And in the back of our prom. property in the wood in the wood area. The wood area, it connects to everyone else's property. So it's pretty large. And right where I saw the shadow type figure, dark figure, right next to it is another TP type structure with that somehow another someone put up. And it's got all these like sticks that goes around, all these limbs that goes around.

and it's the same kind of structure but taller. And it's the same thing. It's like it's structure where you can like, there's an opening, you can go in there and sit down in it. You know, my advice to you on this whole situation is just leave it alone. I could have, I mean, there's guys that would trust, especially down there in Texas to come check it out, probably tell you for sure if they're in the area or not.

Sometimes it's better not to press a situation like this, in my own opinion, but, you know, what do I know? Yeah, yeah, you know, I was at first I was like oh I need to get someone here that that knows a little bit more about what to look for and let me know like if if they're around you know but I think that once I kind of more kind of thought about I think kind of less I know better off I'm kind of feeling you know I mean

I got you and I thought about putting up like maybe cameras or something around the area then I'm like you know do I really want to see something you know that we're, you know, I'm already kind of paranoid about it, you know, or I'm not really paranoid. I'm just cautious, you know, like I make sure the dogs are in at night when it starts getting dark, no, and stuff like that, you know. No, I get what you're saying. Yeah, yeah. You know, I would definitely keep an eye on your dogs, but it depends on what you, it's like Pandora's box.

Do you really want to know what's on the property? Yeah, kind of got a glimpse of it. Yeah. And they're probably, the way you described their property to me, with the creek drainage behind that house and all the, just the area where you're at, I know where you're at. I wasn't too far from there when I went out with the guys, so I know what's there. If there's not a lot of aggression and you don't want to really open Pandora's box, but if you want to know what's on the property and you want to, it sounds like you got a pretty good chance

of actually seeing one, there's guys, you know, I would have like the big thicket guys come down there, big thicket watch like Buckgar and those guys, because you know they're going to respect your property. You know they're not going to show up with 30. people, you know they're not going to... All right. TV crew. Yeah, they're just not going to make the mess of things. And sometimes if you're not getting aggression, there's...

But if you push it, you can get aggression. Right, right. Yeah, I don't... Yeah, I was like, you know, because I list to some people, they say they live out, you know, gilfs and things like that, like apples or whatever. My wife has like, oh, should we do that, kind of like a piece off? And I was like, no, because I don't... want them think that I'm trying to interact with them.

It's like, you know, I kind of feel like that they're a rare species. And I feel like, you know, people know that they're there. Whether, you know, the government's covering it up or people don't want to believe it, you know. And, you know, and I'm just going to share a story with you real quick before we go. But like, what kind of really kind of got me really believing in Big. foot was that whenever I grew up in northeast Louisiana

in rural area and so my family my uncle and a couple of my cousins they went on a camping trip to Arkansas and they ran it a cabin and one of the nights that they were there they saw something

what they thought was a person peeking through the window so my uncle my older cousin they grabbed their guns and went out there and it took off running, so they gave chase to it. And of course, they didn't catch up to it, but they said they came back and they were telling

us about the story, and they said that they believe it was Bigfoot because how fast it was running, and plus the limbs and the logs that it did step on, no way that a human could step on that and break it. So I kind of feel like, you know, with me seeing this stuff, you know, recently, seeing one recently, and then having a family member a way back, you know, this is probably the late 70s sharing a story with me, you know, it's, I think, you know, they're here and I think there's probably more of them than what people really realize. because, you know, honestly, it's like, you know, if you're in California, how often you go out on a hike, you might see a bear, you know? And there's, I'm sure there's, you know, fair enough, you know, bears. No, I'm with you on it.

I think I definitely wouldn't feed them. That's my own personal advice. Some guys you talk to say, do that. But I look at it like this. Hey, if I thought there was grizzly bear in the area, I sure as heck wouldn't be putting out food. No, no. And these things can rip you apart just as fast as a bear can. But again, if they haven't really shown any aggrat...

It really depends on what you want. Now, if they start tapping on the house, start throwing stuff at the house, start showing aggressive beer, that's a whole different story. Sometimes people just want to see these things. And like I said, I can get you in touch with the right people to probably make it to where you could see one if you wanted to see one. No. I don't know if... You know, I kind of feel like I did see it.

Yeah. You know? And it wasn't aggressive towards me. Haven't, you know, I really haven't met none of my neighbors. You know, we're not really that close to each other. But I kind of feel like, you know, I wonder if they're like me, like, what was that? Or if they know they're here and they just leave them along. And one of the things, yeah.

And one of the things that me and my wife talked about, you know, if we should have, like, a researcher or someone come here and take a look around. And she's like, you know, do we really want that, you know, someone here and disrupting the neighborhood. And, you know, if they're here, they've been here for a while. And probably the people that lived here is probably been here for a while. So it's like, you know, what we don't really want to, I really don't want to draw like any intention to it, you know. But if, but then again, it's like, you know, it is a, you know, if it is a hot area, you know, the other side of it is, you know, if there is a person, that you know of that be, you know, disheed about it. I wouldn't mind, you know, having them come.

I don't know if I want to go with them, you know, with them, but I might, you know, but if someone wanted, you know, maybe they can get some information about them, you know, maybe see one or, of course, some vocalization or, you know, I really don't know if they actually live on the property or not, or if they just kind of like walk through. Yeah, I can definitely. I'll put you in touch with some people, Johnny. I'll have them contact you. And then it's people I would trust to come out to my property

if I had this going on and have them take a look around. And, you know, you might go talk to your neighbors. It may not be a bad idea to go up to your neighbors and say, hey, listen, have you guys ever seen, you don't have to say Bigfoot. But you can say, hey, have you guys seen anything strange out here? I know someone, you know, it sounds like someone was walking my property. And I know the area you're at. You don't go on someone's property and start walking around at night unless you want to get shot.

No, you don't. No, no, you don't. And that's kind of the reason why I never really kind of went to any of my neighbors because you get to their house. You know, you have to drive down a long driveway, you know, and, you know, if they don't know you, it would be kind of weird, like, you know. And when I moved to this area, someone's like, oh, yeah, I know the area people kind of tend to want to keep to themselves and stuff like that around here. It's interesting too because I know where you're at. I know the general area where you're at. It's not far from where I went out with the guys down there when I went to Texas.

It's really not that far away. You know, as a crow flies, you're really close. But I would definitely be careful because they can be aggressive down in that area. But again, if you've been there for a year, you really haven't had any problems. I would be here since March, so March it like three months. Oh, I gotcha. Yeah. I know the house was empty for a while.

Yeah, that's what it was. The people who lived here before have not lived here for a year. I guess they, I guess they moved to a town kind of like south of here. So if they had work or something like that,

they'd have been too far to commute. So I don't know why they hold on to the house for so long. Maybe as a backup plan, it wasn't for sure if they're going to move back or not. But, you know, they took care of the property and you know, and stuff like

like that, but yeah, they told me that no one's lived in. They hadn't lived in it for a year. So I thought that might have been another reason why, too, maybe was kind of like having some sightings and stuff like that. And, you know, if they weren't hanging around here, they're not used to people and dogs being here, you know, and maybe they're just kind of like checking it out. and I do go walking around in the back some, you know, and let my dogs run around and everything, you know,

and I kind of like sometimes I feel a little paranoid about doing it, but at the same time it's kind of like I want to continue my life. And, you know, if I want to go explore back there, feel comfortable in doing it, it's, you know, it can be bull just kind of walking through the woods. But at the same time, it's kind of like, you know, I don't want to intrude and make myself kind of like, you know, I feel like, I guess, intruderage on their territory or something like that where, you know, they feel like they have to be aggressive.

Well, Johnny, I appreciate you coming on the show, ma'am. Hey, I appreciate it. It was nice talking to you. It was nice talking to you, too, Johnny. Next up on the show, I want to welcome Duke. And Duke, I'm laughing because of the music. I told Duke, I was going to call this Duke's conspiracy corner. And Duke wanted to discuss some of the insider episodes. I know a while back I had an insider come forward, shared all of military records, all that good stuff.

And then I did a show. And because of some threats and some things that happened, I took the show down. But I may end up actually bringing back that show. I still have it on file. And I thought about bringing it on just like a member only type show on the website. If you go to Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you'll see all the member shows there on the right under the podcast. section. I may end up actually releasing that full show

down the road and just give, you know, let members listen to it. Because there was a lot of really interesting things during that show. Duke, welcome. Welcome to the show. Thanks for being here. It's always a pleasure to be here. Thanks for having me back. And I'd like to say hello to all your

fans out there. You got some of the best. I think you guys are really great. Yeah, no, I have great fans and thank you so much for being on. Well, I know you wanted to present some information. take on The Insider shows. You know, a lot of people like The Insider shows. A lot of people like the more darker, violent encounters. And I guess that's one thing I can address with that. You know, as I talk to witnesses, I try and put together shows, what would I want to listen to? What type of shows would I want

to listen to? And not every story is dark and deep, you know, threatening on the edge of dying type story. I have had a lot of those in the past, but not every story is that way. I know like on Friday night's show, the gentleman I had on, I thought his encounter was fascinating, how he, he's literally within 20 feet or less of the saying and describing what he's seeing. And the creature didn't really do anything. It just stand there looking at him in shock and amazement as he was looking back at the saying. You know, I mean, every encounter to me is fascinating. And I know a lot of people, they wanted me to go more and more into the insider show. and then I had to take, I had to remove it because of some issues that happened.

But Duke, I know you kind of had a take on it. I know a lot of people have been begging me to go back and talk about the insider shows, and I just haven't had time. But what did you come across and what did you think from that show? Well, actually, I'll tell you, you know, a lot of the stuff that the insider mentioned were all things prepared to say, yeah, that's trouble. Other parts of it, of course, sound like so it's hard to get a real pulse on it. And I guess the other thing that even adds to that is that it sounds like the equivalent of what the physicist would call a grand unified field theory.

Only this one for conspiracy theories where it ties all together, basically. You know, either you've got a whole bunch of military insiders that have got some genius scriptwriter that's working on this stuff for and over again. And these people are coming forward and needing to be forthright about information. It's important and wanting to tell other people about it. And, you know, some of it is just it's things that you could maybe see how something like that, could come about, but it's still almost hard to believe that, you know, some of the stuff could actually be real. So I was interested in doing this when you brought it up originally West, you know, just having, you're not just a big foot guy. You like to look at all this

other stuff too and learn what you can about it. And I've been that way for, you know, a long, long time now. So I thought between the two of us, maybe we could give this, some of this information, the sort of a little bit more thorough vetting and at least give the folks out there some idea what we think might actually be going on or some of the ideas that we could throw out so they could have something to think about on it. Yeah, I think so. I am interested in these other topics. When I talked to some of the insiders, you're right a lot. Some of the stuff sounds really crazy.

And I know sometimes people take little tidbits out of what I said in certain shows and blow it up into something that really wasn't. I think on the last show I made a comment about them weaponizing Sasquatch, or I've been told that's what they're doing. You know, some guy was basically. called me a nut on there. And I was like, hey, man, I'm not saying they are weaponizing Sasquatch. I'm just giving you information I've been given.

It's interesting, and I'll go into the Dulce, New Mexico thing, but I'll let you go down your list, sir. I just went back and let's mention in there so that we would not potentially miss anything that we should be talking about on your behalf. Well, I think we should start with where it starts, and that's with the whole Bigfoot thing and placing and manipulation going on with these creatures. vis-a-vis the American, and that they were basically trying to figure out how to weaponize these things, turn them into super soldiers.

Obviously, it would be pretty effective and causing trouble for the enemy. You know, on the other hand, how ethical is it to even create something like that to start with, and if these things already exist, then you're messing around to their genetic code and trying to make them into something that they're not, maybe shouldn't be made into. You don't know what the ramifications of that are. And, you know, me and you both talked about this before West, The weird stuff that they've been doing that the public knows about, like, the goat spider thing where the goat had the spider gene so that some spider silk would come out in its milk, which they could be extracted and used for whatever industrial purpose they wanted to apply it to. And if that sort of stuff has gotten to the point where it's open public knowledge and whatnot, you can only imagine what the DOD military that's, you know, got to be a good 20 years ahead of what we're being allowed to know about, if not further.

is capable of doing. And, you know, with the gigantic black bag budget that they've got, that they don't have to tell us what they're doing with it, they've got more than enough money to go ahead and start making monsters with this process as they wanted to. Is it possible? I really think it is possible. Did they, you know, are they the originators of Bigfoot

or some of these other creatures that we're seeing running around? I don't think so. I think that they are perhaps capturing. some of these things and modifying them in whatever ways that they find to be beneficial for what it is they want them to do later. That could, you know, be happening. But, you know, these guys really should go read the aisle of doc and see where these sort of weird experiments can take them.

I mean, this is mad scientist territory as far as I'm concerned. I agree with you. I think it is too. And I think that that stuff is going on. And it's interesting, as I do this show, I've been thinking over the last couple weeks because I'm interested in all these other. strange topics to either expand Sasquatch Chronicles or to just do a second show based on this other stuff. Because there is a lot of other weird things. I get a lot of weird reports that really

aren't Bigfoot related. And I've gotten really strange stuff. And when I talk to the person, you know, they seem pretty sane when I'm talking to them. But they'll say half man, half something else they ran into. You know, you kind of got a, is it misidentification? Was it something else? but as you talk to some of these people, man, you get weirder and weirder stories about things they're running into, and it kind of goes back to the insider stuff. I've been told on three occasions

now, look into Dulce, New Mexico, or I think it's Dolcee, New Mexico. I think it's, technically, I think that's right, but I think the Americans around there pronounce it Dulcy. I'm not sure. I'm not the native, but I've heard both. I think it is

Dulcee, though. Well, and the weird part is going back to what you were just talking about with the gene splicing. I mean, all this seems like crazy in our own little worlds that we all live in and we reside on in our own reality. But some of this stuff, you know, I've been told some really weird stuff and I came across this on the news. Duke, let me know what you think of this. Dulce is a quiet, unassuming town nestled in northern New Mexico. Many of its residents are members of the Hikaria Apache tribe. They swear. I tell stories, but my nose isn't growing. They are not making this up.

They threw down a ladder from that spaceship. And then two small people started climbing down. Jerry Julian says she had her first extraterrestrial encounter right here on her Dulce ranch about 40 years ago. It was huge. I just saw the bottom of it. You know, it was flat like this. Many of her neighbors claim similar, strange sight. Fat in the middle and kind of like rounded on the sides. You're speechless, you know. You just don't know what to think, you know. It's just like, it's like nothing you've ever encountered before. Why are stories of the extraordinary, ordinary here? I do not know. I do not know. Probably kind of that big mountain we have right there, you know.

Rumor has it there is a secret base hidden underneath the archilada mesa here. The mountain overlooks Dulce. Some people in town say the base is run by aliens working with our federal government to conduct mind control and genetic experiments. Do you believe that? Yeah. Well, a whole bunch of people seen it, you know. Like the ground opened up, steam coming out of it.

They also claim they've seen some creatures cooked up in those experiments like Bigfoot and something half human. Down this way, the waist down, it's a goat. It has a tail. But up here, it's a man. People tell me Dulce wasn't always a center for supernatural activity, but then sometime in the 70s, things changed. That's when cows started turning up mutilated.

They just cut out in between the lakes right here. We've seen one. I know it's not a predator. It's doing it. Someone's doing it. Local police never definitively said who's to blame. locals say it has to be something out of this world. And since then,

I was taking a random picture. Zoomed they in, and there was. There was a UFO right there. They say they know it sounds crazy. They're just going to ask me, well, how much did you drink or what did you drink? I'll submit to a lie detector test or anything, you know. But say it's the truth. Question is, do you believe?

Anything impossible these days now. In Dulce, Megan Cruz, K-O-A-T action service. That's exactly what we're talking about. It's Dr. Monroe territory there doing weird genetic manipulation and trying to, using that sort of, you know, it's not because you can. Yeah, and so it makes you wonder, makes you wonder what's going on. I know the residents down there in Dulce, they've been saying this for years. You know, I've gotten a lot of, I've gotten a lot of weird reports out of there, actually.

Bigfoot and non-Bigfoot. Just some really strange, strange reports. And a lot of the people I talk to in the military, I've been told that several times. Go look into Dulce, New Mexico. Go into that area. Just start investigating, start talking to people, and you'll uncover what's going on. And it just makes you wonder what's going on there. And anyway, I didn't mean to cut off your list there, Duke.

Oh, no problem, man. You know, it just gives me more time to think about what you're talking about, too. And one of the things that comes to mind when we're talking about Dulce is the Phil Schneider, who was involved in making, according to him, massive underground military base for the military Blift Elite to go and hide in. It was like whatever that would mess up the surface. But he claims it in the process of actually making that base there.

If I remember right, that's where they were when they were drilling the pilot holes and ran into, they already been there for hundreds of years. The government actually knew it was there or anybody about it and just let them drill right into the damp. It's opened up like a fish from his belt all the way up to his neck and would have died if a special force guy hadn't thrown in mind of the elevator and pressed the button to take him back up to the surface again. And, of course, Phil's been gone for quite a while now.

After multiple assassination attempts, he finally did end up tying that amount right up to the last time you ever talked to the public or anyone else that this is all true. The government was making two or three of these deep underground. military bases. And this lines up exactly with what the insider told us also, even the rate that they're being constructed at. And I have seen pictures of these big tunneling machines that they use. As a matter of fact, I was actually people that was requested to be on a big tunnel job that was going in underneath St. Paul, a tunnel about 200 feet down to connect all of the old overflow tunnel away that would, in case the city flooded, would direct all the water away from it, equipment that they were using. They just had this giant machine that would crawl in there

and dig the tunnel right through rock, whatever was in front of it. And then they had, you know, the more primitive version would have to come in. And then the ones that they're using supposedly for all this big underground, deep underground military base construction are ones that can defecrate the rock and then actually reform that into a smooth surface as the casement for the tunnel itself. So it's just like a huge earth where it just burrows through the earth and leaves this nice, perfect round hole 40, 50, 60 feet across. And the thing that got me when I saw a good picture of one of these is, uh, why does this thing got a U.S. Air Force emblem on the side of it? Right. I've seen that.

Makes you wonder, what are they doing, uh, you know, protecting our skies underground? Yeah, well, it seems like anytime there's anything, well, for me, at least, anytime there's anything weird going on with the military or with the government, for some reason, it's always the Air Force. That's the branch of government that I keep, that keeps coming up when you look into things. You know, and I don't know, honestly, I guess for the audience, I don't know if they are manipulating the genes of Sasquatch. There's something bigger going on. I'm not really sure on the cover-up. You know, there's multiple reasons why they're covering this whole topic up, but why I don't know. One of the things I was going to talk to you about Duke is down in Texas

with the big thicket guys that were doing the expeditions. And I guess I won't go too much into the story, but from what I've been told from, from Whitney's, that were there. These guys, it was like almost just short of an FBI raid. These guys come rolling in from the Forestry Department and the USDA and all these different branches of the government to roll in to shut these guys down and made a big stink, separated everyone, told the guys that were running an expedition they had to leave or they were going to take them to jail. Yeah, but everyone else could stay. You know, they told the guys they had been surveillance in them

for months, uh, on and on and on and on. And this is conversation from the witnesses. These aren't even the guys. This isn't Bob or Tim or those guys tell me. This is what witnesses have relayed. So they're getting question left and right. You know, they got to leave. One of the participants asked one of the forestry guys, uh, have you ever seen a Sasquatch? And the guys reply to them was,

you don't want to know what I know about Saswatch and just kind of turned away well he asked him again and the guy basically came out and said if you see one and it shows its teeth leave as soon as you can and then turn back around I mean just totally

it wasn't a joke they weren't playing around straight-faced right good advice very straight-faced yeah and what was interesting is Bob everyone all those guys have to leave I asked if they would send me copies of the tickets and they got what would be equivalent to like a parking ticket is basically what they got. It was like operating a business in the National Force without a permit fine is what they got.

And the max you can be fine for that is $150. So they've been surveillance in these guys for how long and using how much of taxpayers' dollars to go bust some guys looking for Bigfoot? It's like, are you freaking... How many man hours total to have a team doing this for that long? It's ridiculous. list. To put it in perspective, if you walk, I think it's 100 yards away from an unintended fire, it's a $500 fine in the state of Texas. The only reason why I bring that up, that's the fine right above. They give you the list of the, you know, statutes you broke. And that was kind of

in that same category of walking away from an intended fire, except for that's a $500 fine. What these guys did was like $150 fine. And that's, they weren't. actually there was no amount written in and no court dates no nothing. I think they got the equivalent of like a backhand to stop doing their expeditions. And it makes you wonder why. Is there something going on down there that everyone needs to know about? Or I mean, why go to the extent to kick these guys out of that area? It makes no sense. One of the things I thought about with that is the, here we go, the Miller document. But the Miller document did say that, that there was going to be in an area around there,

that they were going to be doing research on these things on. And like every five years or something, they were going to get another big parcel of lamb and attach it to it. And they had this long-term plan that was supposed to be, what, like 2012 last piece of lamb is going to be. And, you know, they'd have more to live on. And it could be that, you know,

they're just so actually came from and it was responsible for it. And so they're paying more attention to those and they have wooded populations elsewhere. Yeah, I mean, it makes you wonder. I mean, you would think that these guys would be more interested in busting poachers, them busting these guys. When you hear them shut them down like that and kind of go out,

I mean, there's way more to the story. And depending on how the feds handle it, is depending on how much I'll do shows on it. But I'd love to have the guys on. The one thing that happened really strange when they, this last expedition, after the guys left, this mystery man shows up. He shows up with all this firewood.

From what the witnesses, the participants, told me was this guy stalked their fire all night long for him and said he was a local and said it helps keeps the boogers away or something to that effect as he stoking the fire for him and one of the guys asked him

are you with the military he's like this guy there's something about this guy but it's just weird right I mean just yeah shows up out of the blue you don't know him and he's going to sit there and stoke your fire all night yeah that's kind of weird

right And that was right after they kicked all the guys out. And it makes you wonder if they're like, well, let's send someone back to make sure at least a fire is going so to wind up with a bunch of dead people. I mean, that's just kind of the stuff that I wonder about. Why did they anyway? Well, yeah, I totally agree with you. I mean, you've got to look at this from the perspective of the, let's see, with the public that are skeptics, they don't believe in Bigfoot. If there's no such thing as Bigfoot, why are these guys following these guys around for four months?

surveilling them so they can give them a $150 ticket. Really? Did they think they were like, you know, secret, you know, and they had sub-training Bigfoot's trained to carry them? Or, you know, I mean, it's just like, what the hell were they actually thinking when they're after these guys and what could be their motivation other than they know Bigfoot's real? And they just want to interfere with these guys to stop them from the... Yeah, it definitely makes you wonder. You know, one of the other things that was mentioned that, uh, was mentioned that, uh, were being desensitized by the government propaganda machine to desensitized us.

And that was about the same point in the conversation where Chris mentioned that Chris at least thought that created by genetic manipulation. Sometimes people argue that with me. They say the reports of the dogmen go back, you know, go back as long as Sasquatch, if not longer. You know, in my mind, you think of a dog man. I mean, I don't know. It just doesn't seem right. something about it doesn't seem right. And I tend to agree.

I think it is something that's been genetically altered. I mean, that's my own personal opinion. I could be 100% wrong. When you start listening to what the witnesses say they ran into, something's not right about that. I mean, it's just not. There's some element of it that either says it's a supernatural construct or it's a genetically manipulated construct.

Because from what we understand of the rules of science and nature, and correct me if I'm going to wrong, Something like that should not be able to arise through normal course of evolution. What's the advantage to running? It just doesn't make good stuff come into existence. And then there's the way the body on a regular wolf or a dog, any cane it is laid out, makes it difficult for them to actually breathe and whatnot if they're standing natural solar. You know, were these things around a long time ago?

Well, you know, I found references to them going back thousands of years. The Sionos, you know, yeah, the Greeks had lots of legendary monsters and stuff, what do we know where they came from? There might have been somebody making these things genetically back then. That wasn't us. What we can do with our technology now, and we look at some of the critters that they make you wonder about the whole thing. But to me, I've always had trouble picturing dog man as flesh and blood genetically created

or something that was basically had a basis in the supernatural. Now, I was talking to a native from the Navajo tribe yesterday, and we got on the subject. and what they perceive to be a dogman by our standards, which is to say something that looks like a werewolf feet, not bigfoot feet, that isn't a natural creature. One of those goodweed, and he said, well, that's it too. And he goes, well, we sort of class all those creatures as being supernatural,

and then he told me the exact root for it. And I said, well, how does that translate? We kind of talk back and forth a little bit. And the closest thing to it was it was basically the Navajo analog for the word cryptid. So anything that isn't a normal animal that you see regularly falls into the category of going underneath this one word, which doesn't necessarily mean it has magical powers. It just means it's so rare that they consider it to be something unusual. Do you have names for Dogman and separate names for some of these other things that we're starting to think of sub-varieties.

If you see one, you should probably, if you got a big enough gun, you think you can shoot it, you might maybe want to. They just have a totally nasty reputation. And, you know, I've never heard of one of them having any kind of positive interaction with humans. I'm not saying that they can't. But usually it's that they just love to scare the hell out of humans, whether they're planning on attacking them or not. And the Gugglies, by comparison, can be actually sort of neutral or disinterested in humans. There was one guy who was walking his dogs back here, and I think it was like 2012, and ran into one that was like nine or ten feet tall when his dogs on.

And it just kind of stopped for a second and looked at them. No show of alarm or interest or anything. and just turned back and kept walking, like, I don't even care that you're there, and just bearded the woods on the other side of the term. That's one way you can probably tell the gougu's a little bit easier from the dog man, as it turned out 100% hostile, but they haven't got much better reputation, so don't let that encourage you to go and pull their non-existent tail. It might be a really bad idea.

I think it's interesting that when you asked him, how does that translate? And it basically translated like crypted. I think that's interesting. It's, you know, this whole thing, that's why I try not to delve too much into the insider shows, because some of the information, I think, for the audience to hear is just so far out left field, or it seems like it is anyway. You start talking about DNA experiments gone wrong. You start talking about weaponizing.

You start talking, and I think all of this is going on. I really do. I really think, let me clarify it. Do I think that's the only reason why Bigfoot's being covered up? No. But I think with regard to some of this other stuff, you know, when someone tells me, hey, I ran into half man, half weird thing, I'm kind of more apt nowadays to stop and listen to see what they have to say. Right. Well, with you, Wes, you know, if you're looking at this person face-to-face, you've had enough experience with us that, you know, within three minutes, you can tell if they're feeding you a line of who year, if they actually are serious or not. You can usually tell just by what their demeanor is like when they're telling the story. You know, if this is something weird and shocking and otherworldly, their face will show it.

There's, you know, it's not that difficult to tell. And then you get stuck with the situation like, well, this guy's telling me something that's just so hard to believe. I don't know where to go with it. But on the other hand, he's so earnest and he seems so honest about it. Clearly, he saw something that scared the woman hell out of him. So what do I make of this story. Yeah, and that's what I try and do. You know, that that's why I thought about doing like one night a week, weird stories, kind of just weird off the wall.

I'm not sure yet. Figure away to put that into the show. because I get a lot of them, man. I get a lot of, like, really weird type stories from sane people. I mean, people that aren't nuts, you know, that are saying, hey, I ran into this and it freaked me out. And I'm not sure what to do with it. So I thought about, hey, why not do another? We should do another show, Duke, we just do weird stuff.

You know what I mean? I'm down for it. If you want to do it, brother, I'd be happy to be there. I love all this kind of stuff. I've been, you know, since my encounter happened when I was so little, I've sort of been. and stop trusting that what they're telling me is accurate. I want to look into everything all the time and vet it myself and see if it actually is.

And, you know, that's kind of a good way to find out things that you shouldn't know and get yourself in trouble. It's helpful. Well, do you want to add anything else to it? Well, the only thing that I wish that we had gotten more of from the insider physical detail on these things, and we got some interesting things that, you know, we're the best of you and you've got to defend yourself.

and that, you know, they basically have that are tremendously thick, and the sturdom itself is tremendously thick even more so than it needs to be. So if you're shooting at the upper chest or something, chances are that you're, you know, unless you hit them with a 50 cow or something, it might not go in anyway. And then there's other strange things about their anatomy that didn't get touched on that I've heard from other people, too, though, where it's, you know, like one variety has, like, two hearts,

and they're sort of under its armpits on each side. So if you shoot it where you think its heart is, that's not where it is. And some varieties having, which essentially allows them to make noises that basically know other animal could make. And if you want to look at it this way, they could do a three-part harmony all by themselves. It's true. That could explain some of the really odd sounds that they can make. And, you know, even things like Bear on the Big Foot Outlaws talking about, the train would be coming to this intersection that because it was a,

crossroads there every time we went by the intersection it had to blow the heart it's by law. And these things would feel the ground rumbling or they would hear it coming off the distance and they'd start mimicking

the train, the heart of the train. Weird would that be to hear that. I think that might have some validity and it could be one of the reasons why they're so good at mimicking and, you know, being able to Yeah, it was interesting. One of the things when I was at that

expedition with the Olympic project, they had a lady there that does something with monkeys. She goes to the Amazon. She was talking about how they had actually trained a chimpanzee to talk. She said it could only say four words. And when it talked, it sounded like a deaf person, but they breed differently than we do. So every time the monkey would try and say something, it had to push a lot of air out. But the chimpanzee learned four words and could say the four words. I think it was like mom, dad, and stop and something else. And the chimpanzee, Hansie learned this. And so, you know, these things having the vocal cords, I've had enough

witnesses on now, and I've heard enough encounter stories, even off the air, where I firmly believe that they can mimic you. They can, it may not be perfect, but they will try to parrot what you say and the noises that they hear. One of the stories that the insider told me, and I'll let you tell it, Duke, when the insider was telling me the story, Chris actually started crying in the middle of telling me the story about shooting the family of sass watches. I think Chris was more upset about the reason why they shot him. But do you want to tell that story? Yeah, I can't give some details on it,

but supposed to say it was in the far north. And what was happening is that these things were not predating on humans or scavenging off us or anything. The only thing that they were doing wrong is that they were being seen too often. and they weren't afraid of people very much anymore because people didn't harm them. So they were letting people start to see them. For those that want to keep this whole thing covered up.

So they hit team basically to go and get rid of this. And they had already shot the, I think if I remember it, it was two younger ones and the male, and it wounded the female. Kneeling on the ground over one of the dead infants, just like a human mother would, has tears coming down her face and everything. and for whatever obvious what the reasons are, but he basically brought, you know, you're pulling down on something that's essentially,

and that's, you know, crying like a human being, well, how would you feel about that? And unless you were just a cold-blooded murder, you wouldn't feel, you know, the thing that really gets me about this whole situation is, is it was so needless. These things weren't hurting anyone. The only thing they were doing wrong was letting people see them, you know, and that's gross for them to be. It just makes me sick. It is kind of heartbreaking to hear the story. Like I said, Chris actually broke down in tears as Chris was telling the story about killing this group.

But, you know, that's not the first time I've heard that. I talked with a guy one time that claimed to have shot them or shot one with a small caliber. I think it was a 9mm. It's a longer story than this, but basically the short version is, is he shoots it. He said, you know, they cry like we do. You know that, right? And the first time I heard that, I said, what? it? He goes, yeah, they cry like we do. The Sasquatch type creatures, they'll cry like we do.

And then he kind of told me the whole story about shooting this one and it put its hands over its eyes and actually started crying. And then it ran off. And he said that he had to pack up and leave really quick because he was starting to get rocks thrown at him. He was starting to get, he felt like retaliated on. He said the forest just like opened up with noise after he shot that one. He started getting rocks thrown at him. He started getting lost. turned at him, just enough time to basically grab a sleeping bag and run. Again, going back to what Chris was saying, that's not the first time I've heard of one crying. Yeah, it adds a whole other level of misery to the story.

But then there's the added elemental well they cry just like human beings, you know. Really sad. I've actually seen a drawing that Chris made of the picture. Yeah. Well, Duke, thanks for coming on for Duke's Conspiracy Corner. we'll have to do this again next week but I appreciate you touching on some of the insider stuff because people ask me questions all the time

and you know it's nothing I can prove it's just stuff I've been told by higher ups and I've heard it several times over so maybe it doesn't faze me as much as when I go on the air and talk about it but thank you for doing that Duke you're totally welcome I enjoy doing this sort of stuff and I always enjoyed talking with you Wes and you know if we can

bring information like this to people, don't necessarily assume that we think it's true. We just think it's interesting and that there's enough substance to it that you guys might want to see it or hear about it, and you might think it's interesting too. Absolutely. And catch Duke on World Bigfoot Radio on YouTube.

Check them out. And I try and post your shows. But if people go out there, subscribe to Duke, and that way you get the alert when a new show pops up. World Bigfoot Radio. Duke, thanks again. You're very welcome, Wes. Thanks for having me on again, brother. Thanks, Duke. I don't know why that music makes me laugh.

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