Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:23 Running from Bigfoot

Episode Date: March 17, 2014

Doug Retzer joins the show tonight to share his encounters with Sasquatch. As a young man hunting he saw a Sasquatch for the first time through his rifle scope, many years later he had an encounter wi...th one while fishing and ran for his life.

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Starting point is 00:00:15 When I had come down this hill, I had seen this creature cross the road. It would have ripped my locked door from my truck, extracted me from my vehicle, and there wouldn't have been a damn thing I could have done about it. Look, this thing I got to notice in his eyes. His eyes was real, real evil, real sinister looking. You know, the look it was given me. What are you reporting? What's going on now, sir?
Starting point is 00:01:09 That's the son of a bitch is about six foot. Yes, I'm looking right here. Welcome to Bigfoot Hot Spot Radio, Sasquatch Chronicles. I'm your host, Wes, along with my brother Woody, and researcher, author, and friend, William Jeffey. Let's start the show. This episode is brought to you by audible.com. Go to audible trial.com forward slash bigfoot hotspot for your first free downloadable book and your first free 30-day trial. Tonight on the show we have Doug from Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 00:02:07 He has some encounters he'd like to share with us. before you had any sort of account with the Sasquatch, what did you know about them? What did you know about the subject? I watched The Legend of Boggy Creek. How long ago was your first encounter? Okay, and was this in Pennsylvania? Me and two friends, Nick and Gordon went out to, it's near Oils City where I'm from. And we went in to woods about, and it was good visual.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Nick was too much, which was a good opening. And I was starting there, and it's like he had no orange on. He's just walking straight. I didn't notice any other hunters, but I should be here. I'm here, and I'm watching him, and he's going. It's like I looked over towards my buddies. They didn't see him, and he kept going. In a couple of seconds, he was on the other side and going up,
Starting point is 00:05:18 and I'm like, my God, how did you get across that trick so fast? It's like, it amazed me, and I just really started watching it. I pulled my rifle scope up to get a look like. I didn't really think there. I thought at first, which back in those days, a lot of people still had the long hairstyles, you know. Right. He started up the other side, and I'm like, what am I looking at? And I'm looking through the rifle scope at him, you know, just watching him.
Starting point is 00:06:15 I was just transfixed with this, you know. And when he got right up the top of the, it just kept going. It's accumulated dirt. When you were looking through the scope, what did the face look like? I mean, my God, what did you, I mean, I can imagine what you thought, but when you're looking at the actual face. It looked like a man, you know, teeth or anything. It looks, spent a few years in the ring getting hit in the nose. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:36 It was almost like his fore. He gave me this piercing look like bottles, so I didn't get burned, and I was out of there. I went over to Gordon and Nick. Nick was still on the furnace, and he hadn't even looked in my direction. I got over there, and when I got over to Nick, he was kind of pissed off because it's like a hard individual. I'm going to hear about it because he'll make fun of you for the next 10 years. So I was a professional jobs I had. I was bonded for $100,000, and I worked for a car.
Starting point is 00:10:01 I had a reputation, you know, I couldn't. Right. Yeah. Parents, I don't know. Yeah. I don't have to think you're nuts. Right, right. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:38 Yeah, now I hear you. Yeah. When you were looking at them through the scope, you said it was about 150 yards away? Yeah. I got you. When you had your second sighting, was it, what was the time frame from when you had your second sighting? August.
Starting point is 00:11:07 of 1991. I would imagine between the time you had your first sighting to your second sighting, did you get an interest in in Sasquatch? Did you get an interest in, I mean, God, saw it firsthand? Oh, I thought about that sighting for, thought about it for probably the next two weeks, you know. Yeah. It was huge. It was all surrounded by, like, berry bushes.
Starting point is 00:12:13 You see something that had been going in and out of. It's like, I looked at it, and I just thought, there's no way I'm crawling in there after seeing what I saw, you know. It was just a Saturday before. Tell us about your encounter in 91, your second setting. It was the scariest day of my life. I was going to go back driving at different times of the year. So seven miles from Wall City, it was the first time I went there. I was like eight years old with my brother-in-law Bob.
Starting point is 00:13:24 And I fished at every chance I got from eight years old on. See, at this time in 91, I was 30 years old. I was actually, I was just shy. I turned 30. I spent the day out there. Well, after the first of the crime. creek, you know. Grabbed one of my rods. I'm always good to go with at least one. I was good to go. So I took my way down the stream and I got probably, that's probably a hundred.
Starting point is 00:15:35 It kind of made me nervous. I managed to get up about, I looked, it was all of a sudden it was just murky, I kind of knew. It felt like someone was watching me. When I saw that murky water, you know, there's only thing that could be. Something was just, I started moving a little faster because I was just getting nervous. I could just what people get, you know. I got up probably about out of the water. These rocks were probably, I took off. I took a little bit. I took off, I started jogging a little bit, and I got up right above the same bar where it was. I tossed my rod down, I jumped down in the water, and I'm feeling all around, you know, looking for my, like, what the hell?
Starting point is 00:18:06 And then it's just, I'm going, and I'm doing just a... That's a deer during the rut and season. That made me nervous. Right away, I was... I turned around, and I started doing a jog, and I'm not doing 100 yards further. I could see the brightness from the... I turned to my left right away, because I just turned... and I started running.
Starting point is 00:21:38 And I was watching it to my right. As I was running, I'm watching the path because I was like, oh, great, fall now. That's all I need to do. I'm probably watching the path, and I'm turning to my right. The last car went by, and I turned, and I ran as fast as I could go. I got to my truck, and I threw everything into the back. I did key in ignition, started the truck. And as soon as I got right up to the roadway and just sat,
Starting point is 00:23:32 just stared, right at the guard wheels where I came over, and I was shaking. Now when it was chasing you, was it on two feet? What do you think its intentions were? I think it was to scare me and intimidate me. Everyone here at Bigfoot Hotspot Spot Spot Radio would like to thank Audible.com. Audible.com is the internet leading provider of audiobooks with over 150,000 different titles to choose from. To download a free audiobook of your choice, go to audibletrial.com forward slash Bigfoot hotspot. Do you think that it had every intention on getting you and the car startled it?
Starting point is 00:25:08 The car kind of threw it off a little bit? It might have been. That might have been all it took for trout fishing, and I never touched it again. I still have not been out trout fishing. I wouldn't do it unless I was with a friend now. I used to go out. I'd be out for 10 hours, 12 hours by myself, walk anywhere, go anywhere. You know, I used to have had a gun that day.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I'd have done nothing. I was nine other than... I'd have to probably empty the whole clip. Let me ask you a question, Doug, before we go on. Ramona mentioned a story about a couple of hunters that were killed and stepped in a tree. How far away from that area was your siding? Was it in the same general area? Yes, it's all considered president township.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Okay. The articles in the paper, it just said the president area. If you were to look like on a satellite map, you could see this is all just heavy. old wood timber. Did the story kind of concern you? Because, I mean, bears don't stuff people in trees and break the rifle like that. Yeah, assuming the trees. That made no sense.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Can anybody do that? Well, it might happen, you know, in some weird accident with one person, but you wouldn't expect multiple deaths from the same way. So you can drop a rifle from, I don't know, 50 to 100 feet. It might break the stock off, but it's not going to shatter it. It's not going to shatter it. No. No.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Makes no sense to me. When I read those articles in the newspaper, it's like in the back of my mind, I kind of tried to shoot one or maybe thought, you know, they're just stupid, you know. Maybe, I mean, maybe, though, Doug, I mean, you weren't doing anything and it charged you. I mean, it was coming for you. I mean, sometimes in here, I could see anybody. Honestly, most hunters I know don't pop off shots unless they know what they're shooting at. I mean, I'm not saying all hunters are that way, but I would say most hunters I know, generally speaking, they don't just pop off shots unless they know what they're shooting at.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And a lot of times when you see a Sasquatch, you've seen them and how big they are, your first thought isn't, hey, I'm going to put a bullet in this thing. And you know what I mean, your first thought is. No, because you know what you have isn't going to hurt it. You know what you have isn't going to hurt. It makes you wonder why they would do that. You know what I mean? Yeah. No, there was nothing.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Yeah, absolutely. You know, just after the years, I just developed. Well, let me ask you this, Doug. So was it after your third sighting is when he started researching the subject and started getting out there? Well, I was doing a little bit of research before. I won't give his last name because he's embarrassed. That's fine. He had an incident.
Starting point is 00:32:46 We were out there. It was very deep, very, very strong. Was it a scream or growl, or what kind of vocalization? was it? How deep it was. He had some check. And Joe immediately says, I want to go. I want to go. Just wait. Where are you going? I took off. I went around.
Starting point is 00:34:19 If I know they're around, I'm not after looking for them, you know, looking around, you know, find tracks. I took off into the darkness. The only light we had, we had no flashlight with that, I could see good in the woods, but, you know, I could still see good enough. And I'm moving along and I get down around that
Starting point is 00:34:57 two yards ahead of me. It was keeping that distance from me. I'm walking really slow and I'm going, I'm working my way towards the hillside, and we walk into the woods, the hillside is the left, it runs all the way around. It's that hollow, you know, the one side of it. It's kind of getting heavy. As I'm coming up in there, far enough away from the car, I could hear really good, and I just stood there and listened. Three or four seconds, you'd hear him just go, you know, it's like, I think it was just breathing, actually. I don't think he was trying to make any sound, you know, that would intimidate me at all, but I could hear him, and he was just slightly
Starting point is 00:36:12 up to hill, I'd say 35, 40 feet away. And then there was so many tops there, I couldn't see it. Stuff getting knocked over. I started walking back, and Joe's just dead silent, you know. He's not yelling my name no more. He's halfway home. He's not going to go up from the other side. The Thompson turned and looked at me.
Starting point is 00:38:11 And as soon as he saw me, he just started wiping the teeters out of his eyes. He was standing there crying. I felt so bad. You're dead. You're lucky the guy with the car keeps doing getting the car and just go. Did he leave me? He asked you. He wouldn't have left me.
Starting point is 00:38:39 He went to the car, but at this point, actually, in the darkest it was, he's not familiar with the area. If I mention that to anybody, I mentioned to his parents. Let me ask you this, Doug. How did you get from this thing chasing you in the woods to reading stories about hunters being stuffed in trees to now you're basically tracking this thing in the middle of the night through the woods? Being a solo researcher now?
Starting point is 00:39:28 No, I mean, just not really being afraid. I mean, the thing's like breaking branches, it's taken off, and you're going after it in the dark, in the woods, and just a few years back, you know, I mean, how do you get from... Yeah, how do you get from where at that point to, hey, I'm going to go track this thing in the woods? Learning about them. No, it's just, I don't have the fear. Excuse me, our area...
Starting point is 00:40:11 Oh, they're aggressive up here. Don't let anyone fool you. I'm in Washington State. They don't miss around up here. Well, here's something to consider, too, is there's more than one variety. Everything labeled as Bigfoot is not all Bigfoot. Yes. And when you said that it looked like a man, you know, I've stood.
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