Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:236 Its skin was charcoal gray

Episode Date: July 17, 2016

I will be speaking to three witnesses tonight. The first witness writes "On April 3, 2016 my daughters 27 year old friend of 15 years & I were leaving Fair Grove MO around 9:30 p.m. heading south on Hwy 65 to Springfield MO. 4 miles south of Fair Grove around mile marker 60 on the west side of the Highway in the drop of the side of the road something came into the sight of my headlights. At that time I drove a 1999 Grand Marquis. What we saw next was huge. It was facing away from the road toward the ridge. It's head was looking down. We saw huge shoulders about 4 to 5 feet wide. It's right arm was as big as a man's thigh, a well built man. It's waist went in like it's shoulders were the top of a V and the waist a solid bottom of a V. It probably weighed about 800 lbs. I would say. It's skin was charcoal gray and it had scarce hair a tan to auburn color, like it had mange or something. I said to Tina "What is that?" she said "I don't know but it is huge." We repeated that to each other about 3 times. Then I asked "Should we stop?" She said "No, I'm going to pee myself." I asked "Should we turn around and go back?" She said "No really I'm going to pee myself." I then told her to call my father who lives in Fair Grove and we were telling him about it." I had the opportunity to speak to the witness' father and he shared with me his own encounter when he was younger. My final guest shares with us encounters that his family had back in the 1950's.

Five, five, four, four, three, three, two, one. One. When I had come down this hill, I had seen this creature cross the road. They would have ripped my locked door from my truck, extracted me from my vehicle, and there wasn't a damn thing I could have done about it. This thing I got to notice in its eyes. His eyes was real, real evil, real sinister way.

You know, the look it was given me. What would you have been? Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about six foot. Sir? Yes, I'm working right heading. Sasquot Chronicle.

In place where people share their accountants. Let's start the show. Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show planned for you tonight. With a heavy heart, I do the show today. I woke up this morning hearing about the shootings that went on down in Baton Rouge. And it's terrible.

You know, we just had the shootings in Texas. We had the thing over in France. We had Turkey's government almost got overturned. It's been a hell of a week. I just can't. I really think this world's gone mad. I think people have gone nuts. I think people are crazy.

This is madness. I'm sorry, you guys. Just with a heavy heart, I do the show today. I guess what I'll say is my thoughts and my prayers go out to the community in Texas. Baton Rouge, France. I mean, God, I shouldn't have to name off so many places. It's, and my hearts go out to the families in Baton Rouge, the fallen police officers. I know there's one, as you hear this broadcast right now, there's one police officer fighting for his life. And it's got to stop. I mean, it's, this is madness. This is complete madness.

I'm sorry, guys. I, um, I know you guys. I know you guys. aren't here for this. I know you guys aren't here to listen to this, but I feel like, I guess what I'll say is my thoughts, my prayers go out to the families. Let's ask God to take care of our fallen police officers and watch over the ones that are there to protect us. Focus, West, focus. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address This is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance, please go to the website, check out the website, Sasquatch Chronicles.com.

If you enjoy the show, please become a member, help support the show. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Greg to the show. Greg, thanks for coming on tonight. Yes, thanks for having me. And if you would, kind of start from the beginning. I mean, I got your email about your family's encounters, and I probably read it three or four times.

I was fascinated by it. if you would kind of start from the beginning, when did your mom and talk to you about what was going on around the property? And when did all that start? The year that that took place was she was 14, so it would have been 1958. The first time I heard the story, I was probably six or seven. We used to periodically go to the movie, and I saw the ad for the movie, Sasquatch, and she took me. And right after that movie is when she told me this story that she had never put two and two together until she saw that movie and was able to kind of go, that's what I saw.

She goes, it was kind of weird that dawned on me after all these years. It was something she had kind of put in the back of her mind. I always enjoyed hearing her tell the tale. And what was the story? What did she tell you? Well, the story was they lived in Elkhorn City, Kentucky. This is South Eastern Kentucky, very near to Virginia. There's a place there are called the Brakes, where it's a line between Virginia and Kentucky.

It's like the Grand Canyon of the East, they call it. Very mountainous area. Small little mountain towns, like you see on TV a lot. Close-knit neighborhoods, like the houses are few and far between, but everybody knew each other through church and school. Everybody went to the same school. She lived across the road from a little general store, and a lot of the teenage kids would sit over there and talk,

and it was an afternoon during the summer. They had walked over to the store to get a bottle of pop, her and my aunt, my aunt being older than her. I think my aunt was 17 at the time. They went in and got a bottle of pop. came out and sat down on the bench outside the store, and we're talking and looking across the road back at their house, and behind the house, the mountain range came down right to their backyard.

The backyard is probably no more than 10 to 12 feet from where the hills started going up into the mountains. Very wooded area, a lot of cut roads through the mountain area to get to the other homes, homemade roads, what they call hollers down there. behind the house was an old field where my great-grandmother used to have sheep. It was like a saddle between the peak, so it would be like an open meadow with lots of trees and brush on either side. While sitting there, she noticed what she thought was somebody walking at the top end of the pasture, the old sheep pasture. And there was a trail up there that followed along, probably 80 to 100 yards away when she first saw someone.

one as she put it walking. She really didn't pay much attention. She thought I might have been one of the neighbor kids out going for a walk or something. And she put her head down and talked a little bit more. And when she looked up, this figure was on the, a little closer now, and it was on a road going along the top of the ridge. She started thinking when she told me that the person had really long hair from where she was saying.

She thought, well, you didn't see people at least. long hair back then. Everybody had short cut hair. And she was looking and she noticed that the hair covered this figure's body. And she looked closer and he really scared her what she saw. So she went out of scream and my aunt's like, what are you screaming about? And she said, look up there on the sheep trail, on the road. And right when she had screamed it stopped and was looking at them. And like I say, 8,200 yards of way. My aunt saw it and just, what is that? What is that thing? And they're going back and forth, so my aunt runs into the store and tells the store owner to please come outside and look at this

thing. And he comes out and looks, and very, I guess you should say he's very boisterous and excited guy. And, you know, I don't know what that GD thing is. It's some kind of wild man. So it had hunkered down and was watching them when they were watching it. And then after he stood in pointed a few times and watched it. She said maybe two or three minutes. It stood back up and continued walking out the ridge. It didn't run. It just walked her and would turn and looked back at them every so often. They could see it as far as it went and it got into deeper timber to where they couldn't see it anymore. Did she describe the length of the hair and kind of, was it long all over the body, or how did she describe it? She described the hair on the head being

like to the shoulders, but it had a face, but she couldn't make out any details of the face, but she could see that the face did not have hair on it. And she said that she couldn't tell about a neck or anything, but the rest of the body, she said it just looked like it was, like it was wearing a way she described it like a dark brown or black suit. It was entirely covered.

She could see no other skin showing, except for the face. From that far away, she couldn't tell ears or anything like that, but she could tell it the face was not covered in hair, but it did hang down on its shoulders. I always asked her about, well, recently, after I contacted you, I had to refresh me a little bit about it. I asked her about how tall she thought it was.

My uncle, her brother, was 6-2, and she said it was easy a foot or more taller than him. That's what the store owner had talked to her about, how big it was, a wide and tall. And that's interesting too, kind of that she's describing kind of that mop on the head that a lot of witnesses talk about.

And if it would have been a person, I don't know that it would have really shook them up, especially being country people. I don't know that it really would have shook them up. No, no. And that's the thing that, People were friendlier back then they would see a stranger and say hello, you know, but it wasn't anything like that. It shook all of them up pretty good.

It shook them up to the point that they didn't want to leave the store until my grandpa got home from work. So they sat there with the store owner until he got home and just they didn't want to walk across the road, even though the house is in sight, even though they saw it walk away. She said it scared him so bad. Yeah, I can imagine. incidents prior to that that were mysterious to them was um by grandma would leave the doors open on the house she would make they had 12 kids in the family so breakfast were a big thing she had to cook for everybody she would have leftover biscuits and a pan in the oven and she would periodically walk up to my great-grandma's house to help her out as she was older she comes home one day and finds

The oven door opened and the biscuit pan laid crossways on the door, and a lot of the biscuits missing. So she thought one of the kids had done it. So she questioned all of them, and none of them were around to, like, confess to the crime. You know, she was accusing everyone at doing it, but they hadn't been the ones doing it. And she never thought anything about it. And then a few days later, it happens again. and this time she sure no one's around because all the kids were gone off somewhere else

and my grandpa was actually staying with a coal miner so he would actually stay at the mining houses and they would come home on the weekends because it was so far to come back and forth from where the coal mine was at and she knew it wasn't him and uh she had gotten in contact with him she had sent one of my uncles to the mining camp and told him what happened and he told her start locking the door while you're gone because don't know who or what, you know, was around doing that. Don't know why she, and she, like she said, anybody was hungry, she'd go off her and take them in and feed them,

but to come in the house like that, it was really a mystery to her. And that was one thing. This was prior to the sighting. One other incident that happened there, my grandfather had a smokehouse, and he would butcher hogs during the, fall to have meat during the winter. This was, you had to have a lot of money to have a refrigeration system back then, and they

were pretty poor. So they had the smokehouse where they kept meat all winter and would go out and get what they needed and bring it in. And he started noticing lots of pork missing when they had whole hands and I guess that's like the whole leg, the way she describes it to me, hanging that would be gone out of the smokehouse. He was trying to keep an eye on that. And one night, they had a chicken coop, and the chickens were really cutting up a ruckus.

It was around 10.30. 11 o'clock, she said she remembers the time because they were all just sitting around talking and it was pretty late. And they thought, well, what's causing that? Well, once in a while you'd have, like, bobcats or a wildcat, they called him, would come around and they'd have to shoot them or what are stray dogs, a lot of wild dogs. At that point, my father was dating my dad. mother at that point. They were just kids.

And he, uh, my grandfather, I couldn't, he says, I guess, I don't know what's causing the noise. I got to go to beg because I got to head to mine camp in the morning. And my dad goes, well, I'll go out and check it out. And my grandma's little dog is just going nuts, but he wouldn't go outside when he's going to shoot him out there and chase off whatever it was. He had a little terrier. And he wouldn't go outside. So my dad went out with the flashlight and would shine the light around. He didn't see anything near near the coop. But when he,

there was a sass of a tree growing next to the chicken coop, next to the fence part. And he hadn't to shine the light on it. And there were scratches in the bark. And she told me to pray about a half inch wide and spacing between them was about an inch, like something that clawed the tree. And she said it was way above where my dad could reach.

So it was above eight feet where it started. and came down to about his chest level. My dad was probably five at eight, five, nine. So I was trying to gauge that the other night about how far it would be. So probably four feet of, four to five feet of scratches in this tree. And my dad found that very odd because they weren't like shark nail scratches. They were like wide, almost like chisel-like, like a screwdriver edge. You know what I mean?

Like a squared off scratch? Because I've seen where bears mark a tree, and you could tell where, the claws hit and dig in, and there's a definite, you can tell what those claws are pointed. And this, he told me this was not like that. And neighbors came from her all around to look at these scratches in the tree that were next to the chicken coop. And I, a tourist, didn't anybody put this two or two together about what you guys had saw in the metal and on the path and all the things going on there. And she said, no, nobody heard of Bigfoot back then in 1958 in eastern Kentucky.

He didn't hear about it or a Sasquatch or anything like that. Yeah, it's interesting. They called it Wild Man. That's a part that's fascinating. Right, the Wild Man, yeah. Yeah, you find that in areas in the South, especially in the South. They don't really have a name for it. If you look at bold accounts, they'll call it the Corn Man, they'll call it the Wild Man, they'll call it.

They have all these different names for it. No heads is another one. But they have all these different names for it. But it's interesting because they didn't know what Sasquatch was back then. This is 10 years before the Patterson Gimlin film. So they have really no clue what they're looking at. That's fascinating. Yes.

Yes. And like she said, you didn't have media back then. You didn't have the internet to look this stuff up. They didn't have it in newspapers there. Or you didn't know to look for it. It was just you heard, you know, like the store owner said, that's some kind of wild man. Yeah.

It always fascinated me that, and like I said, I told you an email. Nobody thought to go look for tracks. Nobody thought to, you didn't think about things back then. She said you didn't think about going to look at the footprints or making a cast or anything like that. That wasn't heard of. But it's just, you know, I had her retell me the tale the other night after I contact you. Same story over again, you know, with all the details. I always enjoy hearing or tell the story.

Oh, yeah. And I hope you've enjoyed it too. I wanted to share that with you. Oh, I've really enjoyed it. I've really enjoyed it. I love hearing encounters prior to the Patterson Gimlin film coming out. I think they're fascinating. Let me ask you, did you ever ask your mom?

Was there anything else that went on and around the property that she kind of raised an eyebrow? I have asked her that before, and she said nothing ever came to mind except for those incidents there. and then everything just stopped one day as far as no more getting into the chicken coop. The doors were locked so there was no more access to the house. Nothing like that that she knew of anybody saying anything else or anybody around town ever said anything else about it. And like she said, it was her, her family, and the store owner were really the only one that knew the tale. They didn't go around spreading the story or saying anything about it. She said, actually scared her so much that when she was younger,

they didn't really want to talk about it anymore, especially my aunt. My aunt didn't, she didn't want it mentioned in her presence. It shook her up that bad. I can imagine. I can imagine. And I can even remember, like, family reunions when I was a teenager, when I would bring it up, and my aunt would cover her ears and go, I don't want to hear it.

Don't tell that around me. I don't want to hear about that. I don't want to remember that. I always thought that was kind of funny. Well, I'm not funny in the sense that it scared you that bad, that you don't want to hear about it again, because I could listen to it again today if she told me, and I just love the tale.

There's a real PTSD that goes on with these. When people see these things, that isn't supposed to exist. And that's what makes me really believe your mom and your aunt and the store owner. They had that almost like PTSD afterwards. It's like, I don't even want to hear about this tail anymore. I don't even want to address this anymore. Yeah, after I talked to you, my objective was to get her to tell you the tale.

But she didn't want to. I wanted her to tell it to you in her way. And she said, no, you tell it. She said, you've heard it enough to remember it, so you tell it. And I would have loved to have her to tell you, you know, because I've always asked her, why didn't anybody tell it the story? She goes, well, it just wasn't something that you saw it. That was pretty much the end of it, you know.

I said, well, you know, you'd think back then people would get, you always see the old story, well, we're going to get together a posse and go look for this wild man, but she said it wasn't that kind of, I mean, that would have been my first thought, hey, I want to go look and see where this thing walked. But she said back then people just, after it walked away, it was gone, you leave it alone. Yeah, it makes me think of an encounter. I just talked to a guy from Oklahoma, and he was talking about his mother, almost kind of identical to your encounter.

They thought the creature was coming in the house and getting food because food would come up missing. And the reason why they thought it was a creature, the part that's fascinating, there was an 18-inch track in the middle of their kitchen floor. It was a muddy human-like footprint. Oh, wow. But they had noticed that food was coming up missing, and they didn't lock their doors. I think this happened back in the 60s.

They didn't lock their doors or anything. And there's just human-like muddy foot track right in the middle of their kitchen. And they knew at that point it was coming in. And the other fascinating part is they called it the wild man too. It was his grandmother that was telling him the story. And she said the wild man would come in and take food from their home. And it's just odd, you know, because nowadays we have a whole different mentality. You know, if I found a muddy footprint in my kitchen floor, you can best guarantee someone's going to eat a bullet the next time they come in the house.

Right. But back then it was like they just kind of didn't really know what they were dealing. with and just kind of brushed it off. It fascinates me. Oh, exactly. Yeah. It's just the, like I was telling you, it was a different time. People didn't lock their doors until something like that happened. And then I guess like they figured locked the door problems all. No need to go any further with it. So where I would, you and I would want to see what's coming in the house. I'm going to wait for it. You know, but. Is that what kind of fascinated you about this topic? Is your own mother having?

That story? Yeah. yes after after seeing that movie and then you know when you're a kid you think oh wow you know look at this

these guys are out hunting for big foot or whatever it's such a softwatch and then she right up the movie tell you a tale such as this

and you're like man it's it there's an experience right here close in my own family I didn't have to get on horses to go find that

you know what I mean like after you see the movie you're like I didn't have to go on an expedition I got a story right here that's really awesome that I have to

that I have, you know, and I can keep for the rest of my life this tale. And, yeah, that's got me into, pretty much got me into being an amateur as far as looking up stuff and studying it and reading reports and things like that. You got to watch what you read, though. So it's where I've learned that, too. Well, we're all amateurs at the end of the day, you know what I mean? Right, exactly. But then you can actually tell after a while what's credible and what.

Well, I sure appreciate you coming on and sharing it. Like I said, I loved reading it. I thought it was fascinating. And it's interesting to people from Kentucky. I wish I could get more people from Kentucky to come on because I think there's more going on in that general location, that general region than what we hear about. People down in the south for some reason, they're kind of hush, hush about this. And generally, those are the people that have the best stories. Yeah, and I think that shows you sometimes that that is a lot of those stories are credible because they don't tell anybody and they kind of figure what's to be gained from lying about something or what's to be gained from even telling anybody the story. So they keep it, it's like a family-knit story, you know what I mean? It doesn't get out. So that's what usually gives you, it leads credence to that there. It's actually a good true story.

Well, Greg, I appreciate you coming on, ma'am. Hey, thanks for having me, man. I appreciate it. And keep up a good work with the show. I enjoy listening to the... I'm working a lot on YouTube, so I will continue. I'm trying to get caught up on my world. I appreciate it, man.

Thank you so much. Yes, sir. You're welcome. I want to welcome Robin to the show. Robin, thanks for coming on. Well, thank you for having me. And if you would, just kind of start from the beginning. I know your dad's going to be coming on shortly to talk about his encounters.

but you had a really recent experience with one of these creatures. If you would, kind of start from the beginning. Tell us what you were out doing and tell us what you saw, what you experienced. Okay. We live in Southern Missouri. One of my daughter's friends, it's been friends with her for several years. She's 27, and she was riding with me, and we were leaving my parents' house and heading back into the town that I,

lived in at the time and we got about four miles out from where my parents live and we were going down the highway and at the time I drove a 1999 grand marquis and the lights pretty well covered the road we come upon something standing on the side of the road down in the ditch. I kind of saw it before the lights hit it. And then once the lights hit it, I was like, oh, my gosh, what is that? And my daughter's friend, she's like, I don't know, but it's huge. I'm like, oh, my, what is that, Tina? And she's like, I don't know.

It's huge, though. you know, we got a good view of it. It was, its back was facing towards the road, and it looked like it was looking down into the ditch that it was standing in. You can just barely see the neck, but we saw the shoulders, which were a good four feet or so across. And we saw the right arm, and it was about as big as a good size. man's thigh. And the color of it was like the skin was like charcoal gray. The hair was like pretty scarce like it like it had mange. I know I've heard that before but I mean that's really what it looked like a bad case of it. And the hair was like a tannish Auburn color sparsely on it. And we

could see the waist real clearly. I'd say it was probably about three feet wide. And it went from the waist up to its shoulders, like a V shape. It was just, it was just huge. And when we drove by, we thought it was squatting, but we didn't know how deep the ditch was. When we got past it, I said, should we stop? And she's like, no, no, I'm going to pee myself. And then I said, should we turn around? And she's like, no, no, really, I'm not joking.

So I noticed the mile marker, and I told her to call my dad, and we let him know. And a little later, we conference called with my brother, and he told us to go back the next day and look for evidence. So why I was at work Monday, Tina left to go back to Northern Missouri, where she lives. And my dad went out at the mile marker that we had told him. but I thought I had told him it would be a bit north of that, but I must not in the excitement. We were pretty excited and nervous and a lot of emotions going on. I can imagine.

Yeah. And so he texted me at work and told me to call him on my break. So I called him, and he said, I'm not finding anything. Are you sure it was that? And I said, well, Dad, I thought, you know, it's a little north of that. And so he said, well, your mom and I will pick you up after work and we'll go look. And so we end up driving by, and I said right there. And he goes, well, he said, that's further north.

And I said, well, you know, we were talking and carrying on. I said, you know, we missed the mile markers. And so we went back and we went down into the ditch. We were looking around and there was torn up traffic. and stuff down in there. We found a few footprints in the mud. And I sent you pictures of the one that had the definition of the toes and the hill marking. And we measured it at 18 inches long and 8 inches across.

And then there was a few others where you could see where the rocks were smashed down into the mud, but really there was no definition to them. You just see the size of what had stepped on that. When you went down into the ditch, how far down was it? I mean, what was your estimation on how tall the same was? Well, my dad had me go up to where we first caught side of it by this road sign, and then he took the tape measure, raised it up until I figured, you know, where it would have been at. And we measured about eight feet. As you went by the creature, did it make any

movements towards you or did it look your way or do any, or was it just focused on whatever was below? It was just focused on whatever it was looking at. It didn't even move. I mean, it was almost like when the lights hit it, like it went as still as a tree. I mean, it was just like, it was almost like a purpose because before the lights hit it, I thought I had caught movement. And then I was like, what's that? And then the lights hit it, and it was like it was still. And, you know, and we went by. And so I think it was the trash that we saw there. I think it was rummaging maybe for food or something in that. Because it looked like fast food sacks that were down in that ditch. Yeah, that's interesting.

What did your daughter's friend say? What did she think it was? She, after she settled down, she was like, oh, my gosh, I have finally seen a Bigfoot. She said that her dad had told her a story of him seeing one when he was younger, when he worked for a farmer. So she was pretty excited that she had probably seen one as well, and she couldn't wait to tell him. I mean, it was just a huge creature, and it was not a bear, was not a bear. Yeah, and I don't think bears even get to be that size out there in Missouri, do they? No.

I mean, I'm pretty sure they don't. No, I don't think so. That would have been, you know, the size of four feet across in the shoulders, which is what a lot of witnesses report. You're talking a little bit bigger than a grizzly bear. You know, and animals don't just stand still, and, you know, for the most part, predators will move out of the way, especially if a car is coming or, you know, so that's interesting, too, that it didn't move. It just kind of stands still. It kind of reminds me of an encounter or a person that recorded one going down the road. The moment the lights hit this saying, you can kind of, like how you described it, Robin, you can kind of see this thing moving.

The moment the lights hit it, it just freezes. It plays like freeze tag. Yeah. Yeah, that's what this seemed like. and there was like two cars behind us. You know, we could see the lights. It was around 930 at night, so it was dark. And I told Tina and I said, wouldn't that be something if we could talk to those people

and see, you know, what they say, you know, they saw? Because I know they had to see it because, I mean, they weren't that far behind us. So, you know, I mean, unless it, after our lights, you know, went off of it, it went up the ridge. but I don't know. I would think they would have caught it moving up the ridge. Yeah, what was going through your mind when he saw it? I mean, this is the first time you've ever seen something like this. Obviously, you probably heard stories.

I know your dad had encounters, but what did you think actually seeing it? I kind of laughed, and I told Tina, I said, that was so scary. I said, and I said, I have always said that if I saw one, I would want to see it from my car. I said, bucket list checked off. Yeah, I hear you. And I think that's how a lot of people would rather see them in their car. Yeah, yeah. As we were, you know, we found the footprint.

I have an injured foot, so I went back up on the gravel shoulder of the highway. And my dad decided to go up on the ridge. and he went to the north side, climbed up there, and then he walked across. And as he was walking across, I noticed a tree bend and two trees made into an X. And they were really tall trees. I mean, where I was standing, you could just really see them. And I thought, well, that's interesting. I'm going to take pictures of that.

So my dad walked by. I was waiting for him to go by. He walked by. And then he went back down the slope to where my mom was. She was looking at some broken deer antlers she had found that were, she said pretty well cleaned. And so they were looking at that. So I started taking pictures of these trees and didn't think anything of it,

took pictures of that. And then my dad was doing the measuring. and when I took pictures of him doing that, as I was taking pictures of him doing that, I heard rock clacking to my right up on the ridge. And I turned to look that direction. I didn't see anything. I took some pictures,

and I didn't see anything in those pictures. But when I looked back at the pictures that I was taking on my dad doing the tape measure measuring where we could get size and things, it looked like beside a tree above his head up on the ridge, it looked like there was a face there. And then after the rock clacking, the face was gone. Later that night, my dad called me up and said that the picture of the tree bend and the X that I had taken, there was something in the picture.

And I was like, what? And I couldn't see what he was talking about. So he came into my house and showed me, and I sent that picture to you, and it looks like there is a creature in front of a tree, squatted down, and looking right at me, why I'm taking the pictures of the tree bend and the X. And I didn't even notice it when I was taking the pictures. That's interesting. Do you mind if I post those pictures under this episode?

That'd be fine. Yeah, and that's, you know, it's creepy. Have you guys gone back to that spot to see if the figure is still there? Well, the pictures that I had taken, my daughter and son-in-law stopped there, and I took some pictures. They walked up there, and I took pictures, and there was nothing there. Oh, I got you. Yeah.

And, you know, we drive by it every day. I'm always looking up there to see if I can catch a glimpse of something. Yeah. I don't blame you. I mean, it's an interesting encounter, especially your brother's right. It's really cool that you guys went back. Very few people ever go back because generally they don't want to. That's cool if your, you know, your brother to say, hey, go back and try and find evidence of the encounter.

I have to tell you, I was when dad called me and said, you know, I'm going to pick you up where we can go there. My stomach just started flip-flopping. I was really nervous. I was like, now it's during the day. You know, it's going to be okay. But I was still very nervous. I don't blame you. I don't blame you.

And I think that's why most people don't go back to where they had their encounter because it's they don't want to. They're afraid they'll run into it again. And that's a huge creature, four feet across. And you said about eight feet tall. That's a big boy. It's definitely a big boy. I think it's interesting.

You mentioned the gray skin. A lot of witnesses I've had on lately talk about the gray skin, seeing almost like leather type of skin, but it's gray. Yeah, it was really strange. I always, you know, I mean, I've heard people say that on different podcasts that I listen to because I'm interested in the subject. And, but I just figured the more likely you would see something more covered in fur. So it kind of, that surprised me seeing that.

And then the one that I took the picture of is actually all covered. in a brown fur. I'm really glad that you were in your car at the time, and there was no danger. You were just passing it. I think that's the encounter we all wish for, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and when I was asking,

do you, should we stop? Should we turn around? I, myself, was thinking, no, no. And I was probably pretty glad that she said no. But still, you know, it was the surprise and it was scary. and just, I don't know, it was just a whirlwind. I'm glad I saw one, because now when I say I believe in them, I know that there is something that I am believing in.

Definitely seeing as believing. Robin, I appreciate you coming on and sharing the encounter very much. It's a cool encounter. Like I said, it's the encounter all of us want. So thank you so much for coming on. Well, thank you. And I really enjoy your show, and I appreciate the information you get out there for people. I think it's important.

The other day I was listening to your show and you said something about retirement, I almost went into a panic, and then you said it was the poker game. I was like, oh, that was mean. So I'm glad it wasn't from the podcast. I'm glad to hear that that's still going. Yeah. No, thank you. And I appreciate you.

listening. Thanks so much. Well, thank you. You have a good evening, okay? And I'll let you speak to my father. Hello. Bob, thanks for coming on. Oh, you're welcome. And if you would, you had two encounters. Would you mind starting with the very first one when you

were younger and a young man and with your friend as you and I were talking right before it went on air? Kind of tell us what you're doing and what you ran into? This is a long time ago. And a matter of fact, It was 54 to 56 years ago.

My younger brother and I were camping out on a river on our dad's farm. We camped out all the time. It was late. It was probably one or two in the morning. And we was down by the river and had a fire going. We had two dogs with us. These were literally junkyard dogs. One weighed about 120 pounds, and the other one weighed 149 pounds.

They was half a boxer, half German Shepherd. They were brothers. Anyway, we was getting ready to lay down, go to bed, and we had been down on the river for probably three days, camping out. And we'd just go back to the house, do our chores and everything we had to do. Then we'd go back to our campsite. And the only thing we had with us was a paring knife, cut up the potatoes. But anyway, that night we was getting ready to get in our blankets, go to bed.

a big rock about the size, probably twice the size of a softball, hit in our campsite and rode right up to the fire. The interesting thing about this was there's no rocks like that in that area. So we jumped up. The dogs started growling real low and came up next to me and my younger brother and wouldn't leave our side no matter what we even tried to sick them on whoever was or whatever was over there and they would not do that normally they were more than willing what did you think it was we had no idea uh we had at that time we had we thought at that time

that it uh was somebody that saw our campfire had been walking down the river and decided to harass us. We decided, we didn't even have a flashlight back them days. I mean, we didn't. We was pretty poor. So we decided to go to the house. So we started walking north, and on the left was Beanfield. On the right was like a 20-foot fence row that was full of brush.

And we could, we would walk. we was almost stumbling over the dogs. They were so close to us. You've got to remember, these dogs have run people out of the old salvage yard that my dad owns. They wouldn't your lap dogs. Yeah, these aren't the dogs you want to mess around with.

No, they was very good dogs. But we could hear whatever it was walking on the other side of the brush in our neighbor's field. We would stop, it would stop. And we'd stop and it'd take like a step. We could hear like a step and then it would stop.

It did that all the way to the old abandoned railroad track that we had to cross, which was total brush, and it was like a tunnel. And we knew we had to get across that. Well, we got to that and let's say that we kind of, hurried to get through that overgrown tunnel area across the tracks. Then we had bean fields and pasture on our right side, and with a fence row that was about 20 foot thick on our left, still going north.

Well, then we hadn't gone probably 30 yards. Then we could hear it on our left on the other side of the brush. Well, we got up to the last field that we had. the cross to see, uh, to get to the house. And dad always left our old yard light on, which was nothing more than like a 150 watt ball. So I told Terry, I says, if whatever is over there is going to get us, I says, it's going to get us. I says, it's going to get us before we get to the light.

And I says, we got. started cutting across the field towards the house. And I told him, I said, well, he took off running. I let him get ahead probably 20, 30 yards. And I was looking back at the brush. Of course, the old yard light was behind me. And I could see the outline of the brush. And nothing come through the brush.

So I spun around and took off running. The dogs were with Terry and probably needed us to say, I caught him pretty quick. And we busted in the house. Dad came running in the kitchen asking us what was going on. And we said, somebody run us out of the bottom. And we told him what happened. And he says, well, he says that was probably some big cat. because we had heard Panthers in the past, and that's all he said.

But, you know, after shoot, I didn't really pay much attention to these Bigfoot sightings and everything until about maybe 10 years ago. And my younger brother and I, we were talking. He doesn't believe he just wanted him guys that one would have to swat him up. beside the head before he had believed it. And I was telling him, I said, you know, I said, all them years when we was down there on when we camped on the river, I said, in all these years, dad told us it was a panther. He goes, yeah.

I says, when have you ever seen a panther so a round rock that's twice the size of a softball? I said, it wasn't a panther, and I said, that rock had to come from a long ways off. At the very next night, we was camping out on the river again. But we couldn't, to this day, I cannot remember if that rock was there or not. I just can't remember. Yeah. And if you think about it, I mean, there's really only, if you're, don't believe in Bigfoot, then the only thing that can throw rocks is humans.

You know as well as I do. You don't throw rocks into someone's camp. That's a great way to get shot. You know, there's just nothing else that throws rocks. I can't imagine some guy out there just tossing. Panthers don't throw rocks. You and I both know that. And if it was a panther, it would have ran you both down.

They would have had you guys. It's not going to walk out with you. I think that those two dogs as vicious as they was, I think they would have took on a cat. Yeah, I would agree with that. I really do. You know, especially protecting us. Interesting enough, that was just one of the very few times that Terry and I, my younger

brother, didn't carry our 22 single shots with us. Yeah. It was just unusual. Yeah, dogs that size, especially what you're talking about, and that breed too, they're going to run down a cat. That's what I always worry about with my pit bull. If I come across to Cougar, even though he's a sweet dog,

I think he'd run down a cougar in a heartbeat and probably not even think twice about it. Well, these dogs had run down people before that were trespassing and run them off. So I don't think these two guys would have had any problems with a cat. I just don't, especially trying to. to protect us.

I would agree with you on that, Bob. And you had an encounter a couple of years back, didn't you? Just a couple years ago, you had another encounter? Yeah, I was driving for a trucking company. They had us get off the interstate to do their shortcut, and we're going through some small towns. This was south, southwest of Cleveland, Ohio. I was driving late at night.

It was probably between two and four in the morning. And they had just repaired the road. We surfaced it, and the only thing in the road was reflectors down the center. No lines on the side at all. It was going through, had just left a small town, and I'm driving on this road, and I was only doing like 45-mile iron because it was one of those moonless, just one of the moonless dark nights. So I'm moving along there and went through a group of trees,

had my lights on brights, but I put them back on dims because I could see the pavement better. They had to the pavement better. We'll go through this group of trees. There's a field on the right. I noticed open space on the left, and then I seen a farmhouse and a barn, and it was on the left. No lights, no security lights, nothing. The place was pitch black.

And I noticed that, got my eyes back on the road, and then all of a sudden I seen, because I'm always looking for deer, cows, whatever, on the highway. people so i'm always watching and all of a sudden i've seen something coming from the left and it was just just out of the the headlights and it was moving tremendously fast and it cut just crossed the right corner of the headlights across the pavement and it was like it was angled towards the truck and it stopped. And I was looking for eyeshine or something, but all I could make out was I couldn't make out its legs, arms or whatever, but all I could see was the bulk of the body.

And I would say it was from three and a half, four foot wide, and probably that or better up and down. and it had a kind of grayish reddish color to it. And it looked real, the hair wasn't like fur. It was long and straggly. And it looked, I thought, mangy is what I thought. But no eye shine. Was it on all fours, Bob?

Or was it up on two legs? It was on two legs, whatever it was. and I was expecting a horse because how fast it was moving. I used to hunt deer all the time. I've even shot and wounded one that moved so quick. This was as quick as or quicker than that, how it got across that road. I let off the fuel.

As soon as I seen it on the left, I let off the fuel because I was going to hit the brakes. But when it cleared the road, I didn't hit the brakes. I was just kind of coasting. And then when I was watching it, no eye shining nothing, and then it went past the right window. Well, I passed, it passed out of view,

out of the right windshield and right window. I thought, well, was that? And I almost applied my brakes, then I go, wait a minute, if it could move from the shoulder of that road from the left to the right, and then stop that quick, I decided to downshift and just go on my way. Yeah, I don't blame you. I said, I could stop and it could be at the cab of that truck in a split second. So I just kept moving.

see it, you're going down the highway, and is it running down the side of the highway and then crosses the highway? Is that what happened? It seemed to me like it came between the barn and the house out of that yard, across the yard, crossed the ditch, because that was the angle it was moving. It was like the angle between the house and the barn, and it cut across in front me at an angle. Oh, I got you. And which that alone really surprised me. Normally it's other animals that I've encountered.

I've always crossed perpendicular to the road. And then they don't stop. Yeah, and then they don't stop and you run into them. That's really interesting. And so it's up on two leagues. It's running. I would imagine person went out of the window out of your mind really quick on seeing this thing, how quickly it's moving.

I would say to cross that highway from shoulder to shoulder, it may have taken two steps on the pavement. It may have. I mean, this thing, it was just like a, it was, it was, At the very, it happened so quick, I didn't even have time to hit my brights. That's how quick it got across the road. I had hit them after it got across the road. That's when I hit my bright light. And I think that's the only reason I picked it up standing there with, I'm presuming with it back to me.

But it was still at the, right at the edge of the light. all I could make out was it's bulk and that was it. And I'd say the bulk was probably three and a half feet or more off the ground because that field on that side of the road was low. It was like probably three feet lower than the highway. What did you think it was at the time? At first, I thought it was to move as quick as, moving as quick as it was,

but first I thought it was a horse. That's the only thing that I could relate to that was that big. But then, when it stopped, and I couldn't see eye shine of nothing, and it stopped as quick as it stopped,

I seen the bulk go by the windshield. I made out kind of the reddish and the gray and the straggly long hair. It was probably behind the truck. I had a 53-foot trailer on, and it was probably then, well, it was after I decided not to stop. I said, I think I just encountered a big foot and realized I'm glad I didn't stop.

I don't blame you. I don't blame you at all. What did you think when Robin told you her encounter about seeing the one on the side of the Well, after that, I started paying more attention to things. I've hunted all my life or just been out in the woods. And I believed her. When her and, well, when Tina called and those girls was not only, you could hear how scared divorces was, but how excited they was.

Not excited as in a good excited, but just... Right, just aimed up. Yeah, they was, they was, I told her that she needed to go on, go on home and not go back. And the next day, we found Robin actually was the one that found the tracks. I started doing the major months on height and with. you know, just, they were just estimates. But when she actually found the tracks where it was like 8, 9 inches wide, 18 inches long, and little pieces of dry grass in the track had actually popped back up like out of the wet mud,

and it still had wet mud on these little pieces of dry grass. then it stepped a couple other tracks. It actually stepped and it looked like it in a place where there was no grass. And it's pretty obvious that it had disturbed the rocks and all there by pushing them down. And so after that, I decided to go up on what she called the ridge and see if I could see where it had come up out of all. the road up the embankment. And so I had walked from north to south on that ridge.

We had taken pictures already of all the footprints and everything. She took the pictures of those trees, which I didn't even know what she was doing. I was up there kind of tracking, looking for stuff that might be disturbed. Because that ridge, it just drops on. pretty dramatically west of the highway. So I was walking down the right-of-way up there, looking down through there and snapping some pictures with my phone. Didn't see nothing.

I looked at the picture, never seen nothing. And then when I get back down there, we kind of wrapped it up, and she actually had taken four or five pictures of that ridge. So we kind of wrapped it up and went back to the house. Then later on that night, I had her email me those pictures, and I put it on the computer. That's when I called her and said, hey, there's something up there looking back at you when you're taking a photograph. So I had actually went back there two more times and walked the ridge, and I haven't seen or heard anything. and she heard rock clacking after she took some pictures.

She asked me if I'd heard them up there, and I said, no, I didn't hear them. 65 is a pretty busy road, kind of noisy. Yeah. Well, be careful when you guys go out and you're searching, especially in an area like that. The thing that worries me about these creatures, when they're on the side of the road like that, you know, a normal wild animal will kind of flee. Well, I don't want to say flee. You know, you got your dumb deer.

They'll cross in front of you and you could hit one. But predators, for the most part, don't cross roads the way these things cross roads. You know, being a truck driver like you were, I mean, how many cougars did you see to cross a road as you're driving up on it? I've never seen one cougar. Yeah, and that's what I mean. Most predators, you just won't see this type of behavior. It's almost kind of arrogance or cockiness of these things to just kind of care less. who's driving by.

And that's the weird part is whenever people have encounters like your daughter had an encounter, that's kind of what their reaction is. These creatures, they just kind of stand there, wait until you're almost up to them. Then they'll cross the road or they'll stand there. And it's such an odd, strange behavior. When did you start looking into this, Bob? When did you start taking an interest in Bigfoot? Well, you know, it's really funny.

I grew up on a farm hunting all my life I've hunted the swamps forest in Virginia Florida all these different states

never ever have I encountered anything if you do steal hunting like I used to do there's every once in while you feel like you know maybe I'm not here in the woods by myself never ever did I think that of there could be a possible creature like that Cougars, panthers, whatever you want to call them, black bears.

Yeah, sure, that's part of it. But I didn't really start paying attention to this until probably seven, nine years ago, something like that. And I haven't really hunted in probably 15, 16 years. You know, I actually got out and did any hunting. But the problem with people are we're so arrogant that we think we're at the top of the food chain. And that may not be so. Yeah.

No, it's definitely not so. It's definitely not so with these things. Bob, I want to thank you for coming on the show. and thanks to Robin for coming on this show. Really appreciate you two sharing your encounters. Thanks so much for being here tonight. You're welcome, and we appreciate the work you do. Thanks, Bob.

And again, with the heavy heart, I do the show. I'm not sure what else to say. Let's just ask God to take care of the fallen law enforcement and watcher of the ones who protect us. Remember, they're the ones running towards the bullets as the rest of us run away from the bullets. Have a good night, everyone. It's been a long day without you, my friend,

and I'll tell you all about it when I see you again. We've come a long way from where we began. Oh, I'll tell you all about it when I see you, when I see you. Damn, who knew, all the planes we flew. things we've been through, then I'll be standing right here talking to you about another path. I know we love to hit the road and laugh, but something told me that it wouldn't last. Had to switch up, look at things different, see the bigger picture. Those were the days, hard work forever pays.

Now I see you in a better place. See you in a better place. How can we not talk about family with families on and we got everything I would do you was standing there by my side? And now you're going to be with me. It's been a long without you, my friend, and I'll tell you all about it when I see you again. We've come a long way from where we began. You know, we started.

Oh, I'll tell you. When I see you. You both go out your way, and the vibe is feeling stronger with small, turned to a friendship, a friendship, turn to a bond. And that bond will never be broken. The love will never get lost. And when brotherhood come first And a line will never be crossed Established it on our own

When that line had to be drawn And that line is what we reached So remember me when I'm gone Now to talk about family What families are that we got Everything I would do you We're standing there by my side And now you're gonna be with you

For the last ride I read the line Without you my friend And I'll tell you And I see We've come along We began Oh, I'll tell you all about it.

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