Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:25 Abducted By The Mountain Devil

Episode Date: March 31, 2014

A listener wrote the show who has had several experiences around Yacolt Mountain AKA Muppet Mountain. He says, "I have just recently found this broadcast and it is terrific. I have been listening to the older shows now, recent ones to say. I think it was in number 10 you mentioned the woman hiker that vanished in the Gifford. I wanted to share that I too have seen many things out there and I have been to the forest at least once every 2 months. I have seen many large signs about this woman who "Disappeared". If I had to bet the farm, I think you know what I think, too..The summer of 2009 I accidently ran into one of these mountain men. I say accident because When I am out I am in complete Camo and face paint and such. I was wearking wooldland digital camo and walking down a road at about 3 pm. I walked right up to this this by chance and it was about 20 feet from me. I am unsure but something tells me it could not see me?. Since I was in all digital camo and blended right in. It was odd because once it seen me and I seen it we both froze.Too its right was the shoulder of the road and a 8 foot hill leading up into the forest, it turned and in on leap, jump?., Hop?. it was up that 8 foot hill and crashing through the forest busting all sorts of trees and the like.I was not afraid but more shocked by what had happend.This brief information may not interest you, but I assure you he is up there certainly and I think that woman who went missing was in my opinion abducted and wont be seen of every again. I think they got her. Where she was camped was about 5 miles from where I seen the one creature..and pelvey creek is just as close."

When I had come down this hill, I had seen this creature cross the road. It would have ripped my locked door from my truck, extracted me from my vehicle, and there wouldn't have been a damn thing I could have done about it. Look this thing I got to notice in his eyes. His eyes was real, real evil, real sinister looking. You know, the look it was giving me. What are you reporting? What on now, sir?

That's the son of a bitch is about six foot. Yes, I'm looking right here. Welcome to Bigfoot Hot Spot Radio, Saskwatch Chronicles. I'm your host, Wes, along with my brother Woody, and researcher, author, and friend, Blame Jeffey. Let's start the show. Tonight, this creature's terror spoiled. God, he was up on that tree. He's on that broken-down tree?

Jeff caught the sheep's squash on thermal. We've seen it hitting its head off of a tree. It was up on a broken-down limb, smacking his head off the tree. Let's go up. Let's go up. Come on, let's go. Be ready, Buck. Where did he go, Jeff?

He was just right here. He was right here. Right there for his head. Damn. This up there. When the hell we, he's just up there on that roll. Oh. Hey, guys.

Yeah. Yeah. Get down the trap for, guys. Watch us. Watch us. Huh. Huh. What's on, my eyes.

Oh, man. Take out of my eyes. This season premieres April 4th Friday at 10-9 Central only on Destination America. Most people now listening to that might think that's funniest things, you know, because what people don't realize when they say that the guy's pointing, he walks over to where the, and gets it. all over in his face. Now, who in their right mind is going to know something burning his eyes? Yeah.

Some 500-pound hillbilly will. That's another thing for anybody. I didn't know this show existing to that particular season premiere. Yeah, it's Mount Monsters. I think they're in their third season. I mean, if that's the highlight to the opening of a season. Now, in keeping with that, now, you were telling us, me something earlier too.

You were telling me about that one. Yeah, I think it was the first season of Mount Monsters. It was when they were searching for the devil dog. I was just like, who are these guys? And there's like, if people haven't seen the show, there's like five guys, and I don't think any one of them is under 300 pounds. And they go out to investigate. We shouldn't laugh.

That's not very nice. thing to do, but when you see, if you haven't seen this crew and you look at them, you've got to scratch your head and just kind of wonder about the logistics of how they move through the brush. Yeah, so these guys go out. There's like five of them, and I think they're all related. I think they're all cousins, and, you know, they're all inbred. They go out to the site, and they meet with their field expert.

I'm kidding. I'm sorry, I'm still thinking about their expert. Describe the expert to us. I was busting up the first time I ever saw. It's the devil dog episode. So they show up, and they're like in the middle of nowhere, and this guy comes out. His name's No Shoes Curly. He comes out.

No shoes curly. There's the expert. I want to go consult, but it gets better. Yeah, he's wearing, like, he's wearing, like, a paper bag for parents. And he comes out and he's like, the guy's half the punk. And he's telling him about this devil dog he ran into. And they're all, they're listening to this guy. Like, you know, it's Jesus coming down, talking to him about the Bible.

They're just listening to the guy's half drunk. And they're talking, they're like, they start busting up because they're like, yeah, no shoes curly, it was off the grid. I'm like, yeah. You were telling you, I'm trying to picture this guy. He said he's wearing a tank top, right? He's wearing like a tank top, a paper bag for pants, and he's no shoes curly, so he has no shoes on.

No shoes. I couldn't get past the park where he's wearing, like, paper... Yeah, yeah. For pants. Yeah. And then they have to explain to you as off the grid, like, you couldn't figure that after. Like, you couldn't figure that after.

I just can't get past the paper bag, bag, it'll give you free clothes to people who... No shoes curly doesn't take handouts. But he'll wear a paper bag for pants. He doesn't need pants. Now, folks, you've got to remember, if this guy's the pinnacle, he's their go-toe. Yeah, the rest of them seem like they're eating just fine. You think they kind of donate a little bit to no shoes curly, maybe give him a car shoes.

Oh, my goodness. That's just hilarious. I've been chuckling about that all day today. Yeah, that show's a mess. I didn't even know it was still on the air until you sent me the link. I was like, really? This show still on the air? You know, we get listeners that will send us things like that once in a while,

and you just have to kind of scratch your head and wonder, you know, who thought putting something like that on time? And that person's... I just saw one episode and I was like, wow, this shows a mess. If no shoes curly is their field expert. Yeah, the go-to guy. And what's funny is, like, all five guys are sitting around watching this guy and really in tune with everything he was saying.

I was like, this guy's half drunk, man. Like, how has anyone taking anything? You guys serious? But, you know, on the serious side of that, that's a classic example. Not only gives the subject a bad image. Right. Because I see that on television,

I mean, most of us have to put together, that being said, you know, when people watch a show, and the fact that they've had, like, three or four seasons. Yeah, as I made it past one season. You know, I'm sure they're all good guys and everything, but that is just hilarious. Yeah, I'm sure they're all alcoholics

and probably beat their dogs at night. Yeah. So did you want to talk? I don't know that I would even recommend to go, anyone go see that just for a laugh. Yeah, it was pretty funny. The devil dog one's pretty funny. Like one of the fat guys falls down

and then he can't get up. It was right after they went and spoke to no shoes curly. They decided to set up their... for the night. They kind of did a funny Bigfoot thing where they're like, well, we talked to No Shoes Curly, and he says they're in the area, so we're going to set up here for the night. I'm thinking, this guy's half drunk, he doesn't have shoes on.

He's wearing a paper bag for pants, for God's sakes. You're going to set up here for the night? You probably touched to him telepathically, right? No, I think No Shoes Curly is actually on the flesh and blood creature. Oh, wow. Yeah, it might have been the alcohol talking, but I think he's on the flesh and blood creature.

You know, that's probably the only way to properly Yeah, I bet he's a fun guy. I'm sure he is. I'm sure he is. Yeah. Anyone named No Shoes Curley is probably okay in my book. I don't know if they'd be my field expert, but I might have a drink. Probably a lot of fun.

I might drink his moonshine with him, but other than that. I'm still thinking about the paper bag pants. I'm sorry, I just can't get past that one. Yeah, the part that really bothers me is, when they call them their field expert. That's when I was like, really, this guy's your field expert? And you got to sit and watch it because they all listen really in tune to what this guy's saying.

And I was like, this guy's... Like the Dalai Lama or something, you know? Yeah, yeah. That's kind of what they took it as. He was talking about the dog man is what he was talking about. They call it the devil dog, I guess, down in Moonsheng country. But yeah, no, you're right. I mean, people watch that.

And, I mean, my God, would you want to come forward? with your encounter after watching No Shoes Curly be the field experts. You'd probably want to forget anything ever happened in your encounter. We'll probably get hate mail after this one. That's okay. We got plenty of hate mail. You can go back in my spam folder. It's one of those things.

I mean, you have to apologize, but it's just damn funny. Yeah, it's hilarious. There's some things that are just overreaching. Yeah, go watch the Devil Dog episode of the Mountain Monsters before you send us your haymail. That's right. Take a look and then think about what you're about to say. Yeah, and then send us your hate mail if you truly want to send us haymail. No, on a serious note, did you want to, I know we're going to bring Luke on,

and Luke had a lot of, he wanted to talk a lot about the government cover-ups. Well, government cover-ups as far as that woman disappearing. He had a little bit of information on that. but he actually had an encounter up in by Muppet Mountain or Yackle Mountain. Left her cat, dogs won't crack. It's like she vanished in thinner.

It's completely vanished. Yeah. And I know Luke one talked a little bit about what he saw up there and also he had an encounter up there he wanted to just share with us. Before we bring Luke on, did you before we actually went to look on,

did you want to share what Mr. Black has been sharing with us? I guess we can talk a little bit about it, but I guess we got to have... Right, and it's, you know, my apology. What, why don't you explain who Mr. Black is first? Okay, Mr. Black is a listener who I can't say a lot about him without giving away who he is. All I can say is... Right, it's not a canine.

I think Kumbow said too, or you did, with your looking to the country, so... It goes back to Occam's Razor. What's the simplest explanation? You know, do you want angry farmers going after these creatures that are attacking their livestock, or is it easier to go cut them up with, you know, surgical tools, make it look like something else, and then drop them off in the middle of the field to where there's no tracks, like they've been dropped by, you know, something else. Right, you just erase, you just erase all your footsteps.

Right. And then, of course, people who go out and think that they're, you know, being abducted by aliens, and stuff. Right. It's enough for those... Misdirection. Yeah, misdirection. It keeps it protected very well.

You know, the other thing that bothered me from the conversations that he shared is the protocols that go out. You know, if someone comes up missing or someone comes up... I'm trying to think I had a word this. If someone comes up missing in an area and it's related directly to these creatures, they go in and take care of their problem. Right, they don't. Yeah, they don't really do that. Right, unless there's a problem that they have to clean up.

And you and Woody ran into an encounter like that, but beforehand they talked about seeing... Yeah, I know I've mentioned it before, but where the woman disappeared, Whitney and I went up into the area. Everything looks staged. We go up to this area, and there's trucks that are labeled funny.

They don't look like they've spent a day in their life actually in construction like water truck trailers that had television screens inside of them and then had a huge mounted antenna with what looked like a thermal camera that was probably, if I were to guess, I'd say a half a million dollar camera. This camera is sitting up there and the lady, you know, basically said there were the logging company, which I've never seen a logging company with a huge camera in the air. and we were chased off the mountain. And I went up there...

There were military vehicles there too, right? Yeah, I went up probably about two days later, and the military was just swarming the area. I mean, there was some VEs. There was every military vehicle besides tanks. There was Black Hawk helicopters flying everywhere. I mean, they were just swarming the area. And it was right at the same time this lady had actually disappeared.

And it's an odd area for the military to be in. It's not an area that the military would go and train in. It's not. The nearest military base is probably two hours away, three hours away. Yeah, two hours away. And something people should understand about that. Anybody who's been in the military, they have to operate on the base. They can't go off base.

And we did have independent confirmation of what, you and Woody's, in the same area. Yeah, and those listening live through Block Talk Radio, I've set up kind of a slideshow of different areas. close to a Yakult Mountain that you can kind of see in the slideshow as you're watching it. Those in the chat room, if you scroll up, you can see the slideshow.

But you can see in there, I mean, it's literally in the middle of nowhere. The falls that you see are actually part of the Lower Lewis River system. I mean, this is really nowhere where the military should be. It's too close to something we haven't talked about for exceed

that amount. Every $10. Yeah, I want to thank everyone who has donated, but if you go to PayPal, all you need to donate is an email address and then the amount you want to send. And the email address to actually send it to is Bigfoot hotspot Radio at gmail.com. That's Bigfoot hotspot radio at gmail.com.

And then you send in the amount that you want to send. And I want to thank everyone who has actually donated to this expedition. Well, I want to bring Luke on. Luke actually is from Southwest Washington. He's had a pretty interesting encounter where he came face to face with Sasquatch, but he has some additional information about the woman that disappeared in the area that Woody and I actually had our encounter. Hey, how's they going, guys? Going pretty good. Going pretty good.

How you doing, Luke? Hey, I'm doing good, Will. How you doing, bud? Good. Now, let me ask you up front. Do you prefer to keep the area confidential? Geographically speaking, I think that anybody who would know that area, it's only going to that area for one good reason to either hunt or to do the kind of things that, like, I mean, anybody else, I don't really have any problems staying where it's at.

My only fear is that, you know, maybe some balloon to tick out there with machine guy. Something stupid. You usually don't pinpoint an area. It just be wrong. Yeah, yeah. You know, I think that would be good. You know, even though, you know, I have, like,

exact information on roads and everything. You know, they're more interested in the... Sure, sure. Yeah, you know, whatever you think is probably best, I grew up in the 90s. I think I've seen about every kind of maybe things that involve... I would see things on, like, fog miscellaneous things.

One would be a ghost topic, another would be a Sasquash extraterrestrials or something. But aside from that, I never really I didn't even really have an okay, there's a big TV, but

I was not a big interest. Right. Yeah, no, it wasn't an interest. It was, to me, it was entertainment on television. That's what it was. I, you know, I, I, like hairy guys, Martians, this is pretty wild.

You know, it's on TV. I live in the city, so I'm completely safe from all of the city. Right, I was completely isolated. What led up to all of this is I had, for one, I had never been in the area that we have spoke about. And I had a friend of mine whose brother used to go shooting out there all the time. Really great, you know, I'd only been on the outskirts. It's really awesome. I really enjoyed it.

I enjoyed my time. I enjoyed shooting. But after I left, I felt like I really wanted to go happening. I ended up, I was going to drive me like a couple miles up there. Up in the morning, I'll be back. I'll just happening. My buddy's brother, take 14, 15. Eventually, I realized that.

It's related from there, and eventually what ended up happening would pick me up, but it never came down from the mountain. It continued on, and I just kept in the general north. I left again where I had. had come. Recently, nobody was there to take me. I was finally a person encounter at a big time. Finding this location where I found, I had found this spot.

Fair in mind, this didn't happen. I just answered that question. I need to finally have an account. What happened to that has a better? I'm one of those guys that I put on camo and I, you know, paint my face and, you know, I do the John Rambo kind of thing, minus destroying things. And I go out there.

and I just, I lay low. I do my thing. I'd do my thing. I was down there to investigate to kind of see if there's really good trout fishing or if I could find some maybe freshwater mussels or if I could find some

crawdads or something, anything. I kept going down this creek in Pelvey. I finally found the longing road. And so I kept going down it. And by this time, it was probably 2.30. 2.45 in the afternoon.

And I'm walking, and bear in mind, I'm in all BDU digital woodland camouflage. My face is completely painted. I have all my gear on me. I'm walking. And bear in mind, I'm armed with a Remington 870 shot again. I had slugs and double up buck in it. So if there was anything I was going to encounter, there was no reason why I was. why I would not be the victor in any of this encounter should it go bad.

Now, I'm walking down this logging road, and I'll just keep the name of the road off the record, but I'm going down and I'm coming around to, it would be to the right, but I was on the outside of the road, so that would put me to the left, so that would put me off the road kind of into the vegetation and the trees and things like that. As I'm coming around this bend, I mean, you couldn't hear me walking on the gravel log road because I was in all this vegetation. And the vegetation wasn't like sticks and leaves crackling. It was just grass off the side of this logging road. So I'm walking.

I look up in about 20, maybe 30 feet tops, but I'm pretty good with distance and the metric systems and all of that. And I'm pretty confident it's about 20 to 30 feet. I look up, I thought it was a broken tree initially. I looked forward and here's this gigantic, well, like I said, I thought it was a tree. I thought it was a tree that had probably snapped about eight or nine feet off the ground and it was just there like a gigantic tree stump, but it wasn't, you know, a tree stump that looked familiar. like somebody had cut the thing down with a chainsaw or a hatchet or it was a blowdown. It just looked like it was an old, eroded tree stump.

And so I stopped. When I stopped, this tree stump moved. And so what ended up happening, it definitely was not a tree stump. It definitely wasn't a bear. it wasn't a hunter, it wasn't a hunter, it wasn't a man. It was, well, it was really tall and it was brown. It was really, really dark brown because I thought it was a tree, but it wasn't a tree because the tree all of a sudden turned around.

And that's when I noticed that there was extremities to what I was looking at. and it was about eight or nine feet tall, and it was completely, it was really dark brown, but as, I guess the hair, well, it was definitely hair,

that's for damn sure, as it got longer, when it was getting closer to the body, the hair was longer, closer to the body, and it seemed to kind of thin out and get lighter, like it was highlighted, so it appeared to be,

natural camouflage and that's probably why I didn't I didn't register in my mind what it was. But the hair on this thing was almost a blonde color. It was just maybe a hazel. It's really, really light and as it got closer to the body, it got a whole hell of a lot darker. The second that I registered in my mind what I was looking at, I instantaneously froze. and I the second my brain like told me

like that this isn't anything else but but something that I've never seen before in my entire life everything like I felt like I went flesh I felt like I was pale

I felt really small and meager at that exact time and bear in mind I had a Remington 870 shotgun with slugs and double up buck and even if I wanted to lift up that shotgun there was no way I could do it because my body wouldn't even allow me to do it I just I couldn't do it so I was in a deadlock with this thing and it was about 15 or 20 seconds deadlock I didn't do anything it isn't doing anything.

It just stood there. And it looked at me and I looked at it and I think that I walked up on it on accident. I think I startled it. I don't know if that's even possible. But bear in mind

I was walking along this road on the side in the grass and you couldn't hear my steps because this is in the summertime. This is in July. and it's 3 o'clock in the afternoon. I'm covered in digital woodland camo,

and I don't know if it just didn't hear me or it couldn't see me, but I was able to walk up on it that close. And in my mind, any animal that would be out there would instantaneously just dart or leave, or it maybe wouldn't even be there before I got there. But this wasn't the case I was able to walk up on this thing. And before we knew it, we were both locked with each other's eyes.

And I knew what it was, supposedly, and it maybe knew what I was, but couldn't distinguish because I didn't have any features. I didn't have anything that could be recognized. I was covered in camouflage. It turned to the right. And I remember this, its legs didn't even move. Its body looked like it was like a swiveled. Like its shoulders went first, and then after they stopped,

then the torso would respond after that. And then it moved from its lower extremities. But there was about an eight-foot-in-foot-end. embankment. I mean, straight up. You couldn't, you'd have to put a ladder up there if you wanted to climb up there. It was one of those

areas where through the seasons, the weather had eroded the side of the road. So it essentially was vertical and then you had the tree line. But what ended up

happening is this thing it, yeah, I don't know if you want to call it a jump, a lunge, a hop, I don't know what you would call it, but in one movement, its entire body was up on top of this eight-foot embankment, and it was gone. But before it was gone, I don't, I didn't see it after that, after it had gone up this embankment. It was, I don't know if it was running and breaking. things intentionally, but all I heard for about five or ten seconds was snaps. And these weren't your little, you know, break a two or three inch tree branch.

These were snaps where it seemed like if you were to drive a Ford F-150 through all kinds of obstacles, it's just going to bust everything in its way until either it gets through or or the obstacles stop this truck. And that's what it sounded like to me that whatever this was, it just either blindly ran or it ran intentionally through all of these obstacles. And it didn't stop. It didn't matter what was in front of it or beside it. It just went in one singular direction.

And whatever was in front of it was coming down because it was going through it. I couldn't really even figure out even how to respond. What do I do? Do I go and tell somebody? Do I stay here? What do I do? And at that point, I decided that it was probably best for me to turn back around and go back to my camp because I was already out there and I was alone. And that's why I had the shot again.

I didn't know really what to do, what to think. I knew that it had happened, but at the same time there was just kind of this really strange disbelief that I had seen this. And I don't know anybody, I don't care if you're in the Olympics, that can just jump eight feet in the air

in like nanoseconds. It was just instantaneously. It was almost like its legs, were like springs or hydraulics or something. Because it happened so fast, I didn't even see it happen. Before I knew it, it was gone. So I was having a hard time trying to register that. But at the same time, I knew what I saw.

I knew that I saw something that was eight, maybe nine feet tall, I have no idea, that I thought was a broken tree, some kind of blowdown or a rotter. tree, but it wasn't that. I can tell you that much for sure. And it had arms and it had two legs and it was bipedal and it was upright. And I looked at it and it looked at me and I don't know if there was a sizing up or anything. I don't know if it knew that I had a gun because I had my shotgun swung across my back. So I didn't even have this thing in my hands.

so I don't know if it even saw it or if it even knew it I had to get. I don't even know if it knew that I was even a person because you couldn't see my skin. I had gloves on. I had boots on. I was covered in digital camo and my entire face was painted. I don't know what it thought of me, but I know what I thought of it. I thought that I couldn't even move because I was so shaken. I was, I guess you would call it some kind of.

kind of paralyzed fear that I couldn't I couldn't talk I couldn't even grab the shotgun even if I wanted to like it just my body would not allow me to even think about doing such a thing even though my mind wanted to do it my body wouldn't allow me to do this so it made me, I was, I was dwarfed to it. I was maybe less than half of its size. So in my mind, if I was some kind of

threat or something to it, in maybe one or two strides, all I had to do is it could have tackled me. I don't know what it could have done, but I'm fairly confident that anything that I would have done wouldn't have done me any

good. And anything that it would have done would have been precise, methodical, timed out. I'm just glad it didn't really happen like that. Yeah, I think a lot of people, you know, one of the biggest criticisms that you'll probably get, Luke, is people will say, well, why didn't you shoot? But when you're putting that moment and when you see something

that you seem so out of place and something you've never seen before, you go into like this weird shock to where, you know, whipping your gun out and pulling the trigger, really is like the last thing on your mind. I mean, even like in Will's encounter, you know, Will came across two of them and I realized this gun wouldn't have done anything at the moment, but you go into like this weird shock

to where people who haven't been in that position will say, why didn't you shoot it? Why didn't you bring in a body? Why didn't you do? And it's kind of like, unless you're actually in that moment until you actually see them face-to-pace like you did, you have no right to even say to someone, and why didn't you shoot?

Because it really is a lot of things on your mind. You know, your mind kind of short circuits because you're kind of thrust in that situation. It's totally outside of a frame of reference you have for anything. And I think your brain is just trying to grasp what the hell is, you know, you don't have time to most cases. You know, and that's really how I felt. I didn't even feel like if I, even if I, even if I wanted to take a peaceful step backwards,

I didn't even feel like I could do that. No, I froze in place, too. I didn't even occur to me. You know, I was just kind of... It's very humbling. You feel very small at the moment. I did. I felt like I was stuck in some kind of twilight zone.

Like I was in some kind of space, time continuum. I was at the bottom of the pecking order there, and there was zero that I could do about it. Yeah, that gun doesn't feel very big at the moment. No. No, you know what? It didn't, you know. didn't at all. And it felt like even if I would have, to me in my mind, even if I was able to do something

like that and to actually fire it, because I always have a chambered round out there. But even if I was able to do that, in my mind, it felt like I would have thrown like a rocker stick at it. I didn't even feel like the weapon that I had would have even made any difference at all to the situation that I was in. And I didn't even know what kind of situation I was in. I just knew I was in it, and there was no instructions, there was no manual, and I was on autopilot. I think that's very common.

You know, I felt like that. Everybody we've talked to, I think, it's pretty much a universal feeling. People who haven't seen one. Yeah. I would agree. And, you know, like I said, when I was up there, that wasn't even in my mind. my whole intention was to look at Pelvey Creek and to see if I could trout fishing it or if I could get some crawfish out of it or if they're fresh water muscles

or maybe there's even a better camping spot up there you know for me from where I was at that was my intention it was just to scout that damn creek out I'd never seen anything like it and again I've been in that forest for 10 years if you could go me on five or six different logging roads that I'm at least familiar with, and you could blindfold me, and you could put me 15 miles up on this road, and I'll get off that road on that road blindfolded. You know, that's how familiar I am with this place. And this place that I was at, you know, I wasn't familiar at all with this place.

I just knew I was in it, and I was investigating it, and that's when this happened. and I guess the worst thing about this is I had no way off the mountain anyway even if I wanted to leave because I was dumped off on this mountain alone and by myself so I had to stay there until I had my rendezvous until I got picked up on Road 54 up there

so I couldn't do squat even if I wanted to I could have sat on the road I was going to get picked up on but that wouldn't have done me any damn good I went back up to my camp And this camp, this is even a real camp. You know, this is me just forging my own little expedition. And I'm kind of an unconventional camper. I like to go into different places that man hasn't really gone.

And I kind of thrive on that. I like to utilize the wilderness skills that I have, you know. So we'll fast forward from 7 o'clock to, again, I don't know what time it was. I know it was in the middle of the night, maybe midnight, maybe one o'clock. I'm laying down, and I'm just laying there. Something, I don't know what woke me up, but something, obviously something woke me up. I was awake. I'm not entirely sure why I was awake.

Maybe I just naturally woke up, I'm not really sure. But I just have this feeling. It was another paralyzing fear. or I didn't see anything. I didn't even hear anything. But instinctually, laying in my sleeping bag, I just felt that I guess maybe I was being watched or there's a presence around me, but I couldn't hear anything and I couldn't see anything. And I'm laying on my chest and my head's facing to the right.

I just know that I'm terrified for some reason, but I don't even know why. and I can't move. And I'm just laying in there. And the sense, I don't know if you guys have ever had it before. Like if you picked up a rock and say you threw it up in the air into the bushes, but before it hits the ground, you can hear it like hitting leaves or something, the object falling out of the sky. Well, that's what I heard.

And what ended up happening is I'm laying there. and I can hear it. I can hear it's like, and then thump. This big rock just lands. I would say 25 feet from me. I couldn't even have been that. It was really close because it was right behind my rucksack, and my rucksack was maybe a dozen feet from the campfire.

But I clearly distinctly heard the object in the air, like hitting tree branches or tree limbs, before it actually hit the ground. Now, when it hit the ground, I was scared out of my wish, and I didn't move, and I didn't even go to sleep the rest of the night. I was just paralyzed in fear.

Now, what makes this a little crazier, well, it sounds crazy. It's not crazy to me because, well, I was there. When I woke up in the morning, well, I don't know if it was even waking up. Maybe it was just comatose. the location that I was in, okay, for one, there's no damn rocks around there. All right, I'll tell you that much.

There's no rocks around there. The closest rocks are down in Pelvey Creek. And those rocks, those are river rocks. And we all know what a river rock looks like. They've been eroded from time by the water, and they're really smooth. You know, they kind of look like they would be the china platter of the rock family. So when I woke up or when I came out of my comatose, whatever it was, in the morning, I went over to the spot where in my mind, like, I thought the rock landed. And I looked, and there was a river rock about the size of a damn 18-inch skillet, maybe even more.

But I'm pretty confident it was about 18 inches. And you know what? It was a river rock. And there ain't no damn rivers up there. the closest thing to a river would be Canyon Creek. There's only Pelby Creek there. Either that rock fell out of outer space or it was thrown by something.

And I don't know what it was because I didn't see anything, but I'm almost a thousand percent sure that bears don't throw rocks, cougars don't throw rocks, deers don't throw rocks, deers don't throw rocks or bears or anything. Yeah, your choices are pretty limited. Yeah, yeah, they were very limited.

And that's when it registered in my mind that either A, there's a really strong guy up here that can throw river rocks as big as a gigantic skillet. Or B, in my mind, I was thinking, well, maybe it was that thing that I saw earlier in the day. Let me ask you this. Did you see the face of the Sasquatch, and if so, can you describe it? I realize there's only a few seconds. You know, it was about 15 or 20 seconds, maybe slightly more, but, okay, I couldn't see, like, pronounced facial. I knew they were under there, but there was hair all the way up to, I would say, a few centimeter. Well, yeah, maybe a five-eighths of an inch to its eyes.

But I could see exactly where the tooth bones were, where the mandible and the maxilla connected. But I couldn't see anything else because, you know, the rest of the hair on its body was really dark, but it got a lot lighter or thinned out or highlighted or, you know, I'm not really sure how it works with those kind of things. But it got lighter. And the lighter hair that was on its extremities was the same color hair that was on its face. So it wasn't as dark as the hair on the rest of its body. namely the torso in the shoulder area and up towards the glutes and maybe the hamstrings. But it was really, it almost looked blonde, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't a blonde. It was probably, it was maybe a caramel, a hazel kind of color.

But I could see, I could see where the, where it's actual nostrils were. And I can see its mouth. in its mouth this thing it looked like a gigantic paint can I mean it was

it wasn't open or anything but that's how wide it was it's it seems like its mouth if it opened it would have been bigger

than a showing head you know it almost looked like the the lips that would have would go back like our lips

go back towards our ears, but they don't go that far. It almost looked like the lips of this thing almost would have gone back and touched its ears. I couldn't see any ears, but I would imagine if the ears were right kind of how hours are, they would have almost touched it. So that kind of leads me to believe that if it would have opened its mouth, you could have put a Thanksgiving turkey down his throat. See, that's something like people, too. They don't really grasp how...

No, it was big. But you know what? Its head didn't seem that big, though. That was the weird thing. It almost seemed like the mandible was almost connected to the chest. Like has no neck? Yeah, yeah. It seemed like it didn't have a neck.

But if it opened its mouth, it would have just been this gargantuan hole in its head. in its head quite literally. Right. But to answer your question on facial features, all I saw with eyes, I didn't see skin on the face, but I can tell you that from when you just said no neck, it just looked like there might have just been a brain attached to the shoulders for all I knew.

Yeah, there wasn't really much. so low. Right. It was. It was really low. It almost seemed like the damn shoulders and the Cepidious muscles on there were so big that they were bigger than its damn head. And that's the thing. I couldn't tell.

Yeah, the top of the head usually looks a little smaller. Right. It did. It looked like the traps and its shoulders were almost just pretty much connected to where its ears would be. It didn't even look like it could turn its head or anything. maybe it could, maybe it could but, you know, when I think back on it, when it went to jump up this hill or hop or whatever the hell it did,

when it turned, its entire torso turned and its head didn't move. And it seemed like once that torso turned to a certain point where its anatomy couldn't respond, that's when the legs turned. It didn't turn in one giant motion. It didn't turn as a singular unit. it turned in two compartmentalized units. The torso went first and then the legs went, and then it was up.

You know, like what I was telling you, Will, like the heads almost seem smaller for what the body, for when you look at the body size and then you look at the heads, it almost seems like the heads should be bigger for what the body size is. But I think as it goes back to what you were saying, Will, it goes to the location. Right, it goes to a location. Yeah, the head's hitting lower into the shoulders. So those shoulders are so big, it makes the head look smaller. How far from when he saw this creature to where you were staying, was it in a tent that you were staying in or were you just sleeping out in the open?

I sleep in the open. I don't ever use tents. I use the kind of sleeping bags where you can attach a Gortex shell on the outside of it. So it's a mummy bag with the Gortex shell. So I don't really have to use a tent if it pours down rain or anything. from the point that I was at, I went down four miles and I know that for a fact because I've done time over time on the map looking at that creek. But from the four mile point,

I was about three miles from that four mile point. So all told and altogether, it would have been seven miles exactly and some change from where I first saw the first one. But I think, can't even guarantee you that it was the same one. You know, I don't know.

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Creep, yeah, and my camp fight was about five miles away from that place. You know, listen, I don't know what happened to that lady, but I can tell you this much. All of my encounters happened within five miles of that campground, and I can tell you this much. Canyon Creek Campground is highly populated in the summertime. I don't know if you guys have ever been out there, but you go off a road 54 and you go across the bridge, which is Canyon Creek, and you can go left or you can go right. And if you go left, you go towards the Canyon Creek campground. And what ends up happening is it turns into a big, big gigantic loop, and then you come out of it.

So if you go left, you end up in the same spot. If you go right, you end up in the same spot also. Now, where this woman was at, she was up about, and I've gone over this 100 times, She was about 1,500 feet above the bridge from the Canyon Creek bridge. And not only is her one, there's two bridges. If you get across that first bridge and you go off to the right and you try to get back on 54, you have to go across another bridge. So there's two bridges there, but one's about maybe a thousand feet down from the first one.

let's just say that she drowned or something and she gets down to the six inch water there's no way in hell that her body is going to go any further from there and somebody is going to see this lady there in the water if she drowned you know that's just one possibility in my mind you know so I don't think I don't think this lady drown. They say that this lady wandered off from there. Well, there's no way you can just wander off on the Canyon Creek side. The only way you can wander off is if you go up this damn logging road, the same road

that I saw this creature or the Sasquatch, or whatever you want to call it, but I feel comfortable saying it's a Sasquatch, that's the only way you can go. or you can try to cross Canyon Creek, but if you do that, most of Canyon Creek has sheer walls. You got to climb up these rock walls that are about 30, 40, 50 feet off the ground going straight up vertically.

So I don't think that's an option. You know, so in my opinion, I don't think this lady just wandered from her campsite there's hundreds of people that go out there. I mean, I can't tell you how many times I've seen all kinds of fly fishermen and families and, you know, all kinds of things out in that particular area. Yeah, it's really heavily populated out there. And they go there because at the very underneath the bridge from 54 to 37

is a really deep fishing hole there. You can get some pretty big trout there. So that's why everybody goes out there. and that's why it's so populated. But for this lady to just magically vanish, I just don't buy it. I don't think... No, it does not add up at all.

I don't think she went on those spiritual quests that everybody's saying she did. And I don't think this woman was ignorant to the forest. I think she was very much aware of where she was. Obviously, she had to have been somewhat aware or somebody had to be aware because they took her there, and she had to consent to that.

So she at least knew geographically where the hell she was at. I honestly think that if this woman went anywhere, she went south on this road, which would be road 37 that actually connects to 38. This is where I saw that creature. And I can't, I mean, I don't know, you know, I don't, I have no idea what happened to this lady, but I can almost guess that this, this woman, being a woman, especially, and we don't know, you know, maybe there could have been a particular time in this, for this woman, you know, a particular cycle in her, you know, life just, she could have, you know, been at that particular cycle where, you know, she's emitting more, more, maybe pheromones or more, more, she's just, she's just, you know, she's just, you know, she's just, you know, She has more of a scent, in my opinion.

And I think that she just wandered down this road being a woman. Because I saw this thing in broad daylight, too. This is at 3 o'clock. This thing was standing right on the side of the road. So it obviously knew that this was a road. And I just, I think this woman perhaps, I guess, in no other way to say it was abducted. but that's what I say, you know, and that's what I think. And, you know, there's probably a lot of people that may be out there.

Like, you're absolutely crazy or something. But, no, I don't think I'm pretty sane, you know, I'm pretty competent. A good friend of mine used to be part of my field team in that area, Dan Hogan, she came up, miss it or anything else. They didn't find a shred of evidence. Not far. Not far. I know exactly the area Luke's talking about.

That whole year. I've got the map up. I'm looking at it. So all the other, I can tell you. And what bother me about that. Luke's encounter, or not Luke's encounter, the lady disappearing will bother me about it. And Luke knows this, will you know this? You come across a black bearer, and a black bear will run from you.

I mean, they will bolt the moment you come in contact with them, they will bolt from the area. A cooter might get you from jumping down from a tree or something like that. But generally speaking, you're going to put up a fight. And so there's going to be some trace of you. Something would be found? Yeah, something would be found. found. And for this woman, I mean, absolutely nothing, no trace. Call Luke crazy, but I think he, I mean, I'm kind of with him on how this woman disappeared. Well, that's what Dan and I talked about, too.

You know, we both know that area very, so you get to know it pretty well when you're out. And for somebody to come up missing like that, it kind of narrows it down to one like that. And that group, when you encountered it. Yeah, we were definitely felt like we're on the menu. And he's right. You know what? there's sheer cliffs on both sides. So there's only one road really she can go down in the area he's talking about. Yeah, and that group has

been in that region. And they're aggressive. They are aggressive, absolutely. They're not something to be messed with. No. And probably the fact that you had a shotgun is what kept him from doing anything to you. Well, you know, here's

the thing with that is it wasn't visible at all. I had it slung behind my shoulder, you know, maybe you saw the buttstock or you might have saw the barrel, but I highly doubt that. Well, here's a bill. You saw one, but you didn't see the other three. Yeah, you know, yeah.

And they were probably watching you. Yeah, you know, I didn't see anything else but what I saw in front of me. I can't say, you know, what was behind me, but, you know, the way you say it there, I'm pretty confident. You're right. Well, they were obviously watching them. They followed him back to his camp or thrown rocked them. Yeah, absolutely. But I think it was your reaction, Luke.

I think you just stood there, and I think that, you know, you talk about digital camo. I think maybe they were trying to figure out what you were, but the fact that you didn't just take off running kind of threw them off a little bit. Kind of like, you know what, this really is. That kind of behavior. Absolutely, and I think that's what, why it took off the way. You guys have the same reaction, and I kind of did the same thing. You don't just take off, you don't do any, you just, you stand there. Looking at Luke, they probably thought, you know what, this probably isn't worth the fight because he's not running.

Right, it might be more problem than it's worth. Whereas the lady she may have take, she probably took off running. Geez, you know, I, yeah, you know, maybe. But in my mind, I know, even if my mind would have said, you know, let's put this thing in fifth gear and let's just go, right. now instantaneously. We're going to grind gears all the way there. I couldn't even move. You know, I felt, I felt like I was, I felt like I was just there in its presence. I didn't feel like it was there with me. I felt like I was there with it. If I just kind of made it through the crucible of just being there that it just might be better, then I'd be all right.

And that's kind of what ended up happening is. It's because I didn't respond. I didn't yell. I didn't scream. I didn't. I just stood there. And again, you know, maybe the camel helped. I'm not sure.

Because I can tell you, the only thing you would have seen from me biologically would have been my eyeballs. And that's it. There was nothing else you could have seen. You're the way to serve to confuse them. You know, perhaps. I mean, I have no idea. I'm not an expert in any of this stuff. I think if you were to take it off running,

I think they would have ran you down. Yeah, I think so too. I think the fact that you sit there... Yeah, you're probably right. throws them off because when you come across the predator, think about it. If you come across the Black Bear, and a Black Bear doesn't run, it's sincere, makes eye contact with you, and it's not running. Because what is he going to do? He's not running. he's not acting like a normal wild animal he's not taking off he's not he looks like he's ready to fight

and so yeah yeah you're absolutely right i think that goes through their mind when he sit there even though you're in shock and you're in fear and your first thought is that hey i'm gonna fight i mean i'm sure fighting really wasn't in your mindset but no the fact that you sat there in shock if you ever see someone in shock they look really calm until you realize are in shock. But when you see someone that's in shock and at first it throws you off because you're like, why is this person so calm? Why are they not, why is this guy not running?

Why is this guy just standing there watching me? I think they're first, I mean, and I'm just theorizing on all this. I think that they look at it and think this guy really, like Wilson's, I don't think it's not worth the fight. It's not worth that this guy's not running. This guy's not freaking out. This guy's not whipping his gun out and firing off a shot. this isn't worth a fight because this guy isn't afraid.

It's like with gorillas when they do a mock charge. If you take off running your toast. If you stay on your ground, it kind of throws them. Don't do anything aggressive either. You call their bluff. Exactly. It wasn't an intentional bluff, I can tell you that. Well, and it isn't with any of us because, you know, it's a natural,

it's almost like we're hardwired to do that and maybe for that very reason. I didn't know what to do at all I'd never been in a situation like this You know I had my 22 and I thought Well I'll shoot in here and see what happens Maybe it'll scare it off And of course that brought another one over

Yeah so We could see how that goes Then I took off running Right absolutely Yeah you know I mean maybe You know maybe if I had Maybe if I was parked 10 feet away or something That might have been a thought

but, you know, the problem was I was on foot and not only was I on foot, I was out there alone, for one. Yeah, I was way up there. I was about, I'd say, 45 miles northwest of Carson and probably

equal to distance from battleground. You know, so I'm, where am I going to run? The only thing that bothers me about your encounter, Luke, is the fact that I think they fall, and maybe maybe,

maybe Wilkin shit some insight on it, but I think they followed you back to your camp. I don't know. I can tell you this much if they did. They would have had to gone up a vertical face that was about 300 yards long. And I don't mean sheer vertical,

but I mean vertical to the point where it would take a strong, healthy man to get up 300 yards, about 45 minutes. Take into a man to converse. Right, absolutely. And to traverse something like that would take a great amount of calories and a great amount of effort. You know, you're probably right there, Wes. You know, I mean, I didn't think of it because, you know, I didn't look back or anything. I didn't look over my shoulder. I just left. You're probably right in an aspect that I was probably followed.

But I didn't know it because I didn't register my mind. I thought it was just an isolated incidence. it's like Wolf said the one that you saw probably isn't the ones that actually followed you back it's probably the ones you didn't see that were keeping tabs on you you know that's very unsettling you know it's uh it's it's really yeah you know um like I said there I've you know I'm not afraid of the wilderness at all but ever since this is just one of many encounters out there. Let me tell you that. But ever since that very first one,

I don't go out there without another person. No, and I don't think anyone should. Absolutely. I never go alone. Absolutely not. I don't care if it's a woman or a man. I want somebody else there with me. That companionship that two humans have seems a whole hell of a lot better than just one.

Humans are pack hunters, and these things know that from, you know, experience time that what got us to our species. Right. And anything that we've dealt with in ancient times knew that. I think what bothers you about, or what bothers most people about Sasquatch is, you know, you know how to deal with a bear. You can deal with a bear if a bear shows up. You know how to deal with a cougar if a cougar shows up. I mean, you're outdoors guy. You can deal with a cougar if a cougar shows up.

Generally speaking, every wild animal is going to both. from you at the minute they get any sort of censure in the area they're going to run Sasquatch is different man they and Will knows this she's talked about it I mean they may not run from you

and for them to follow you back to camp start throwing rocks at you it makes me wonder about what if you would have gotten up and created the altercation of I'm going to deal with this rock turn crap in the middle of the night you know what would have happened

a good example of that kind of base, which isn't that much farther north from that area. You know, those ensued throughout, back on the cabin, and then they actually shot one, and it fell in the... Yeah, and, you know, and that's kind of what I felt, too. I felt, if I responded, I felt like it was a... It was a transmission, and I received that transmission, but if I tried to transmit back, that it could have been...

It could have escalated. Right, it could have been received a different way than what I was intending Exactly, yeah, they're just going to respond by what they see Make sure people know that These things have very short tempers It's almost like that It's sort of a, you know, where they know long as you

Well, it's actually, it's a Right So if they're coming up to you and they're sort of And you don't react back It's like, you know, you see people with primates And even other animals It almost seems They could just do whatever they want

I can't, you know. If you think about it, though, Luke, if you go and pick a fight with someone and then they back down and they don't want to fight, you know what I mean? Then really what's the point in taking a swing if they're going to back down and say you're the biggest, baddest thing on the block. There's no point in taking a swing because you've proven your point. It's not a matter of their size versus us. Yeah, that's really interesting to know, especially about that woman who went missing hiking, and maybe you're spot on with that. You know, I think if this is genuinely the case with that altercation is because it wasn't on their part,

but it was on the woman's part. Right. Either she ran from, she made her some parent in. Right. Yeah, she did something, and she took that fatal step. And I honestly believe in my. heart that that's exactly what happened with this lady. I can't think of any other hikers or anything that's ever gone missing that you never found

the next spring in the thaw and, you know, on an hour before you. Not so much up there, but across the river on the Clackamas River area, these guys are opportunity. Yeah, I can definitely see that also. Think about any wild animal. If you show any sort of fear, they pick up on that. Yeah, and then all of a sudden it's a predator prey situation. Absolutely.

The prey always runs. Yeah, prey always runs, is it right? Then they got you. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I can see that. It triggers that instinctual. Well, Luke, I know we're out of time. I appreciate you coming.

I really appreciate you coming on and, you know, sharing with us what's been going on up in that area. Well, definitely keep in touch with this and, you know, maybe we can all get out there and do something. I'd like to do that. And I'm actually, I'm going to be leaving tomorrow morning, actually, to go back up for my little expedition. So when I get back, I'll have some news on what I do or do not find or what I hear or do not hear. So I'll definitely keep you guys posted. I'm going to send you some pictures too. Okay, yeah, yeah, definitely do that.

You know, like I said, I'll tell you what those are and why. We're open to any of this. Like I said, you know, I'm not an expert. You know, I'm just a guy who likes to go out into the world. and just enjoy it. I'm not an expert either, but I've been around a long time, so. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I can definitely respect all of that.

Okay, guys, well, thank you for having me on the show, and perhaps there'll be another time. I've got a couple more stories. Absolutely. We'd love to have you back. And thanks for listening, Luke. Thanks for coming on. Thanks for listening.

Appreciate it. Absolutely. And I am really thrilled to find out that you're actually here in Vancouver. I had no idea. Like the odds are really, really small with that. Yeah, man, I'll take you up to a month from out and show you around. Yeah, definitely. Okay, okay, guys, we'll do that.

And I think we'll probably end this transmission then, huh? And I will talk to you soon and keep in touch. Thanks, Luke. Okay, goodnight, guys. I think going into shock and not running probably saved his life. Yeah, I think, and then you guys that happened to you, it happened to me. It's happened to countless other people I've talked to, and I think that's always the same.

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