Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:34 Charged by a Sasquatch!

Episode Date: June 9, 2014

On tonight's show we will have 3 guests. Each sharing their encounters with Sasquatch. Bob Garrett returns and shares more information about the torn up camp and encounters he has personally had. Bob ...will  discuss the time he was charged by a Sasquatch and give us some insight on their behavior. The "big thicket" has a lot of bigfoot activity  

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Starting point is 00:01:45 Welcome to Bigfoot Hot Spot Radio, Sasquatch Chronicles. I'm your host, Wes, along with my brother Woody, and researcher, author, and friend, Liam Jeffey. Let's start the show. I posted that picture of that dog man. Remember a long time ago, Kumba was talking about that picture
Starting point is 00:02:28 of a dogman holding a dog? I was laughing at some of the comments in there. But he was talking about, you know, this picture. It's a pretty good picture. I know it's been out there on the web a little bit, but I posted it up on Facebook. If he had a chance to check it out, out. It's pretty interesting. Do you get a chance to look at it yet?
Starting point is 00:02:46 I haven't, no. Yeah, if you get a chance, swing over there on our Facebook page and tell me what you think about that picture. Yeah, look at it. I always thought it was kind of a creepy picture, kind of a cool picture. It's a good, it's a good frontal shot of the dogman-type creatures. Is it an actual picture or is it artwork? No, no, it's an actual picture. It's an actual picture that was taken. It was a couple of years back.
Starting point is 00:03:12 that was the one Cumba was talking about where it's got the good facial shot of the dog man and it looks it actually does look kind of baboonish I think yeah yeah not not dog at all I think you know with that
Starting point is 00:04:16 right hey Bobby Norio pretty good hurry this evening not too bad usually what we do is just didn't know much about it they were big tall hairy pretty much it I really learned a majority about it by listening to your show
Starting point is 00:05:15 and then going on YouTube and listening to various about them. My first one was in 76. It was roughly 76, 77, and 78 is when I had mine. Nighttime, me, my some family and friends were up camping. My parents and sisters were in a motorhome. It was another camperful people, another tent that had my aunt and uncle in it, and then I slept in another tent by myself. and I had put my tent up against a tree
Starting point is 00:06:04 and were like in a U shape and I was at the bottom of the U and it was a night of the full moon I don't know what's time in the morning it was but I heard these big heavy steps coming they were either coming off the mountain or down the or down the gravel road one of the two and it led to an area where we camp at the time it wasn't a public tank ground
Starting point is 00:06:27 we made it and now it's a public It walked across down it. I could hear the heavy footsteps. It was definitely two feet. I know what deer sound like I've been hunting all my life. It was heavy feet. Then when it hit the gravel, you could hear it crunching. And then it walked down to the creek, and you could hear it on the big rocks as it was rocking the river rocks.
Starting point is 00:06:52 You could hear them shifting as it walked down. Then it sounded like it picked up a rock and was hitting another rock with there. It was going, it did that for about a minute. it was always in like groups of three. It got up and it started walking and you could hear the big heavy footsteps again and it was coming at my tent. And the way I had my tent set,
Starting point is 00:07:17 the blue lit was from the back of it. I had my head up by the door. See the tree that was silhouetted that I was backed up against and all of a sudden this thing, I was, and all of a sudden this thing crossed right in front of, or right behind the tent in the shadow put it up against my tent.
Starting point is 00:07:40 You see it was big, hairy walking on two feet. And I could see, like, from about the chest down. But the time it hit that tree, I bled out of blood-curdling scream, and it never went across, if it was straight out, and one ran away. And my dad came out and got me. I would come out of the tent until he made sure that the coast is clear. But that was one. The second one was roughly 19.
Starting point is 00:08:09 77. Oh no, excuse me, that was wrong. That would have been in the 80s. I was a freshman at the time, so that was like 79. There's, uh, we were go deer hunting, bow hunting, archery season. We usually up there 10 days to two weeks. And while we're out there running around, I seen a tree stand that was right up against the road, was built into the trees that were right there. They're probably 12-inch around at the base trees. There were three of them, and they had a two-by-four frame, and then a a platform and then a seat up there and it was a rotation to get to it. So we were going to go up for three days. So I decided I would sit in it then. So when the time came, we went up there. First day went fine. Everything was cool. Sit up there. I will not stay after dark though, or up until dark. I'd leave well before. I know I shouldn't be afraid of bears, but I shot one
Starting point is 00:09:15 when I was 13 and after that, never again. First night was okay. I told, when I sent you the email, I was thinking the last day was the, he had the camera, but it wasn't the second day I went there. I ran a thorn into my knuckle of my finger when I was just about to the stand, right now the three-wheeler. So I was only up there about 20 minutes before I came down and had to go to the hospital, get it surgically removed. But next day, the third day, I went back up there again. I parked my three-wheeler like 100 yards away from the tree stand.
Starting point is 00:09:49 so I could see it was kind of slanted from the tree stand I could see to my left down the road and I parked it to where I could see it I went to the street tree stand walked behind the tree stand about 35 yards
Starting point is 00:10:05 into the woods and did my business in the woods and then I buried it and then I came back to the tree I got up in the tree and no sooner had I sat down or was in the process of sitting down when the most blood-curdling roar came from right where I was. It was not.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Originally, I was thinking, you know, this is a bear. For many years, I thought this was a bear, until I heard you play the sounds on your show. No, it was not a bear. I listened to several more bear roars, and it was not. Nothing like a bear. This was like a lion. And it was pissed.
Starting point is 00:10:48 And so I couldn't see, I cannot see, in my tree stand, you can see the road, but you cannot see the woods behind you. I'm sitting there froze, they don't know what to do, there's no way I'm getting out of the tree. Like 20 minutes, right up against the road, like five feet off the road is where the tree stand is. There's a pond that's probably 20 feet wide or long and 15 feet wide. And it's probably from the fawns that were playing in it the first day, it was probably like a foot, foot and a half deep. straight ahead out from that was probably 100 yards wide of short hill that was clear cut and then i don't know what was above that on my right there was about 20 feet from the tree stand was a row of trees that went for several yards and then it went out to another clearing on my left was probably 80 yards away or so
Starting point is 00:11:48 90 it was woods again and those woods stopped just before it went up the hill to where it was clear cat floor you know i'm sitting there and high and high school and i'm sitting there and high I'm looking all around, around me, what I can see, and everything's dead silent. And I'm trying to keep watching around seeing for any movement or sound. And then, like, 20 minutes later, on the left side of me, at the end of the woods, just before we'd go up the hill, that sound again, that big, froze again, and I'm watching this thing. I don't know how it could have snuck by me on my left side. It would have crossed the road, and I would have saw something.
Starting point is 00:12:35 But I didn't see anything. I mean, I could have got to get out of the corner of my eye even. But I saw nothing. I waited about an hour. I kept watching nothing. Nothing was moving. Nothing was stirring. And I waited about an hour.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Got down and right for the bike. And then when I was looking to your guys' stories for saying these things hunting pack. One, there's probably, they hunt two or six in the group. So I'd probably be watching from all sight. wonderful they probably a whole group of them said they're watching me switch and a day dinner right there so it's not a pleasing
Starting point is 00:13:21 what time of day was this when you're in the tree stand I would have went out there roughly about 3 o'clock in the afternoon about what time it would have happened the next year we were road hunting and we were
Starting point is 00:13:36 probably a mile from where that tree stand was the hill there is like at a 45 degree angle and it drops down into a lake that's probably 3,000 feet lower elevation and probably five miles away. There were two of us in the back. I was looking at the downside of the hill.
Starting point is 00:13:57 It was probably my sister that was in the back also and probably my dad driving. On the right-hand side, right before I saw this thing, there is, there's no water other than these little stagnant ponds here and there. It's not like some places where the snowpack melts and it makes it. little streams and it makes bigger streams. This all soaks in the ground and water around that area comes up in springs. And it just so happens right before I saw this next one. There is a, on the bank that, like my sister was, it's the road cut in and there's like a six-foot-high wall of clay.
Starting point is 00:14:35 And then it goes up into burn, man, an old burn. It's meant me that was like four to five feet high. and about three foot from the edge there is this it looks like a water somebody turned on a water hose it goes up in arches it was like that big around
Starting point is 00:14:52 it goes up about eight inches and it goes right back into the ground that's the only fresh water that's around there about 50 yards up from that like I said I was sitting in the back I'm looking over the edge looking down the hills for anything
Starting point is 00:15:09 when you're in the back the big trees overhanging the road, so occasionally you've got to put up your arm to block a tree limb sitting at swipes. And there was one coming up, and I turned and looked at you when it was coming. When I was looking back, I seen this head and the left shoulder. It was probably 10 feet high. It was standing up against a tall section of trees. In front of it was a shorter one.
Starting point is 00:15:40 a shorter tree that was probably 15 feet high, and it had it, well, it would, I didn't see it, but its right hand would have been pulling the tree over so it could look at us coming at it. It was probably five foot off the road standing behind this tree. I could see from what would be the chin up, I could see its left shoulder. There was a branch that was coming across its chin and shooting up the left side. but I could see the shoulder and I could see the head. It was black, jet black, shiny fur, probably inch and a half long, and its face were just like a girl.
Starting point is 00:16:22 It's that shiny black skin. Right. And I could remember, it was just for a second. I could remember locking on its eyes just for a second. It had black eyes. I could see two nostrils, and it really didn't see the mouth, but I'm sure it was there. and unlike the Patty film, I looked at it. It shows that it had fur across the top of its lip and under its nose all the way across.
Starting point is 00:16:50 This didn't have that. It was like that you guys were mentioning some guy re-drew the Deanderthals to make it look more ape-like. Right, the type 2s. That's what it looked like, except it didn't have the red eyes. it had black eyes and I'm sure the nose wasn't like that. I remember seeing nostril holes, but I don't remember exactly what the nose looked like, but it was just the face was pure skin, black skin, just like to look into a gorilla. Like I said, it was just for a split second, and I looked back down the hill, and then I looked
Starting point is 00:17:23 back, and by the time I did that, it had let go of the tree, and I don't know if it jumped or if something jumped off of it. I'm thinking more it had to be it, because there was another tree that was growing right next to the tree it was bending over, and there was a gap. The bottoms of the trees were touching, but there was a gap in between them. And I got a glimpse of black part of the arm, black part of the leg, part of the belly, but the back of it was cursory going up. And originally I thought I didn't, whoever was driving,
Starting point is 00:18:02 notice the trees walking back and forth from where I had pulled it down and let loose. And they said something, I said it was a bear. I backed all the way up against two of every. it was next to me and just took a really quick glimpse down where it was. As we passed it, it was probably a section that was eight foot wide that was open, and it went back about 30 feet before it hit Manzanilla. There was no, I didn't see anything. It already went through.
Starting point is 00:18:29 But it looked like it was probably it, not a baby jumping off of it, but it would have been going down to go on all fours is what it would have been doing. Right. in the position I saw it in. Question for you. So what's all these signs that you can be watching for? And what do they mean?
Starting point is 00:18:51 Okay. As many as they're, I'm sure, that are up there. There's certain territorial. I don't like you mark in their territory. Apparently not. Well, you know, I don't think I do. I'm buried. I know they're real.
Starting point is 00:19:23 I saw it. Do you do any sort of, do you go out in the areas now, and do you look for them? Do you spend time? No, I've just been recently digging information up on it. I was doing it, and that's how I found your show, and you by far have more information and more sane information than some people. I won't mention shows, but or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:53 I'm in the process. Thank you for coming on. Thank you for sharing everything with us. Yeah, we sure appreciate it. And thanks for listening, too. All right. Well, thank you so much. Thank you for having me on.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Oh, thank you. Have a good day. Everyone here at Bigfoot Hotspot Spot Spot Radio would like to thank Audible.com. Audible.com is the internet leading provider of audiobooks with over 150,000 different titles to choose from. To download a free audiobook of your choice, go to Audibletrial.com forward slash Bigfoot hotspot. Hey, how's it going? It's going good. Yeah, I grew up, believer.
Starting point is 00:21:33 just like indoctrine agent into it by my head. I was like known about it since I was real little. Well, I was on leave through the military, so I was home on vacation, so we went, a big group of us went camping up in the Gifford Pinchot National Forest up at forlorn lakes, just north of the goose lake. I think I guess probably know the area.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Right. We, it had to have been the first night, because my wife had to leave the second day. So it was in the middle of the night. It was real late. And me and my wife were using my Army sleeping bag. And it's made out of, it comes in like three parts. And every part's made out of like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:22:27 what it would be like a nylon or neoprene or something, a really loud material. And we woke up in the middle of the night, we're tossing and turning. And then not too far, it's hard to say how far away it was because in the middle of the night, like we'd just gotten up. But it was,
Starting point is 00:22:45 it felt like it was really close, but not pleased to say, but we just heard this incredibly loud screen. It was like shockingly loud. It crescendoed into this screen, like this high-pitched screen. But it was the fact that it started like a loop, like a monkey,
Starting point is 00:23:04 like an ape, you know? Right. And then those, those like microseconds that your brain processes things, I remember being awake and then hearing the whoop and being like monkeys what and then being like oh no there are no monkeys here I know exactly what that is
Starting point is 00:23:19 and then the fear just like taking over and me and my life were laying face to face and I can feel that my eyes were bigger than they've ever been in my life and she commented on it later being like your eyes were your eyes were like coming out of your head it was just just raw fear like it's never been gripped
Starting point is 00:23:39 like that and I didn't see it and it just hurt it. I laid there for a while listening for like footballs and stuff, but I didn't hear anything else. And that was the middle of the night, you said? Yeah, it was in the middle of the night. I'm convinced that
Starting point is 00:23:57 Gifford Pinchot National, the whole national forest there is just infested with Sasquatch. Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, it's one of the main places. Yeah, I mean, that's part of the forest where Woody and I had our encounter. or we've had other things that have happened.
Starting point is 00:24:17 I've seen so much in that, and I realize it's a large area, but I don't know, I've seen a lot of things in that, that Gifford National Force that makes me think that there's a lot going on in there. Yeah, and there has been for a long time. Definitely. And the next day, I think it was, I believe. Was it the next day? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Excuse me, I got my brother here to help me with some of the details. I'm not very good with memory, but the next day there was this deer that came to the campground, but it wouldn't come in. It was like set on the edge of where we were camping and it wouldn't leave. And you can tell it was pretty distressed. Like it was almost like it was like literally caught between a rock and a hard place. And it was just staying on the edge of our camp like all day, all night. We didn't feed it or anything, so it wasn't there for food.
Starting point is 00:25:14 and I forgot to mention that my dad had spoken to a ranger when we first got there and the campground wasn't even you didn't have to pay yet, it was just open for the season we were the first ones there after the melt so we were like the first ones up in that area for the year but the deer stayed around our camp all day and all night
Starting point is 00:25:35 and then that... Yeah, so we were all like, well, what's going on with this deer? I believe it was that night late until the night we were all sitting around a picnic table playing cards and BS and whatnot and something ran through our camp just outside of the lantern light and in my mind it just immediately said it was the deer just bounding through because he could just hear like I guess bipedal just steps like thump thumb thump instead of like four feet it was one of the time so in my mind I just rationalize of someone bounding but I don't
Starting point is 00:26:12 I mean, look on it later when I look back at, I don't know what it was. I mean, it could have been two feet or it could have been something bounding through. You know, deer, you know, I've heard that before, well, with the deer. It's almost like the deer know that, you're saying, hey, it's caught between a rock and a hard place. And it's funny because I've heard that before to where when deer are being chased or they're in a bad spot with these creatures, they'll tend to come closer to humans as almost like it's almost better to what's worse the lesser of two evils yeah exactly what you're thinking at the time where you're thinking hey just someone ran through our camp or what was going through your mind
Starting point is 00:27:54 the running through the camp we were all just kind of like oh it must have just been a bear or whatever we all just kind of brushed off like uh actually like the whole trip It was kind of cavalier kind of attitude, because at that time we were kind of in the school of thought, like the Sasquatches being the friendly forest chines, you know, that you guys have talked about. So we weren't, no, I wasn't even worried about it. Like the next day I woke up after I heard that scream and told my dad,
Starting point is 00:28:24 and he was just like, oh, cool, let's go look for some tracks, you know. So, like, we walked around. It wasn't even a big deal. Even though, you know, in the moment you're terrified once I eventually fell back sleeping in the next day and all that stuff going on. Like, no one was really worried about it. We're all just like, oh, let's just be our friendly neighborhood Sasquatch. So you never actually saw the...
Starting point is 00:28:46 Fortunately and unfortunately, I guess I haven't seen anything. I don't know if I really even want to. That experience was kind of, I don't know, kind of freaky. I don't know, I'm kind of glad I didn't see anything. I felt intensely like vulnerable. You guys had talked about the... instantly feel like bottom of the food chain kind of stuff because I remember laying there. My wife was laying there.
Starting point is 00:29:15 She was close to the edge of the tent. And I just remember being so afraid thinking, well, if this thing wants to come in here or come through that wall intake at the time, I think we were just married. I mean, there would have been, I knew there would have been nothing that I could have done. You know, even though the whole time I had thought about them being your friend. And in that moment it was like, oh, I'm going to die kind of thing. It was just really weird. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Even when you hear different noises and stuff, like what you heard, it's unnerving to say the least. I'm always more vigilant now than ever before when I go in the woods. We still go back all the time, but it's always like head on a swivel kind of stuff. Yeah. Yeah, I know that feeling. Well, we sure appreciate you. Yeah, I appreciate you guys having me on. I was really surprised.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Yeah, absolutely. You guys' show is pretty awesome. I wait for it every week. You guys are like one of the few out there bringing like legitimacy to the topic. So it's, you know, I got a pretty big fan over here. Oh, that's nice. I appreciate that. Yeah, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Well, we thank you for coming on. Thank you for sharing those encounters with us. and the experiences. Yeah, thanks for having me. You bet. Keep in touch if you see anything else. I definitely will. I got you guys as an email, so I appreciate it. Have a great night. I'm telling you, man, that Gifford National Forest, there's a lot of stuff that goes on in there, a lot.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I have so many, really, you know, the whole cat. Yeah, that's true. I had Bob Garrett on, so Bob has agreed to come back. We wanted to, uh, now, Will, do you want to go back into the torn-up camp, or Bob, do you have any real creepy type encounters beyond the torn camp that you'd want to share with us? How did you want to do this, Will? I'm pretty open, actually. Bob's dental.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Would you be willing to share with us? Well, I do have some creepy stories. I guess you might say, for me, they were kind of scary. But actually at the torn up camp, you know, we were charged twice. in recent months. That's the same camps about the video, right? Yes, it is. We just call it the torn-up camp now
Starting point is 00:33:05 because it's the same area. We go in there a lot. We get a lot of good vocals, and there are times when we get screened at. We've had rocks thrown at us. As a matter of fact, just a few months ago I had a rock hit me up right underneath my glasses. Yeah, and that wasn't fun.
Starting point is 00:33:35 The night that I took Ten Thurman's, who is a good friend of ours, and goes out with us quite often, I took him out to that area. We had walked in a little ways past where the camp was. we heard this slap on the tree and Tim said you hear that? And I said, yeah, I heard it
Starting point is 00:34:00 because we hear that stuff a lot and I really didn't put two and two together that, you know, this is just behind that big tree. We kept on going and we got a little closer and a little closer to that big tree where the big X was put up before during the
Starting point is 00:34:22 I guess whatever happened at the at the torn up camp that's where we were going we were going into that behind those trees when all of a sudden small trees started flying up in the air
Starting point is 00:34:40 and now this is pitch dark and something was just coming at us full force like a damn freight train and I happen to have this laser it's on a pair of binoculars it's a green laser and I know that they don't like it
Starting point is 00:34:59 they absolutely do not like this laser it hurts their eyes and when I use it I usually use it just to light up the forest west but I it was around my neck and I hit it
Starting point is 00:35:14 and when I did the squawful I hit him right square in the ice with it. And he closed his eyes. And he stopped his charge. And I'm afraid that if I hadn't had done that, I don't think me, Tim, or my son, Travis, would be here right now. When we went, everybody, you know, backed off.
Starting point is 00:35:40 We probably floated. I mean, don't take that the wrong way. I mean, we don't even know how we got back about 30 feet. We did. We got back about 30 feet. I went and I got my little floodlight, a little handheld floodlight. And Tim, he was trying to hook up his thermal and was having trouble with it. Travis was also in the other truck. And he was, no one had actually put, you know, the 45 on.
Starting point is 00:36:16 And he was getting the 45 out. And we were just, you know, pretty much all in shock, you might say. And I went a little further from the back of the trucks, and I hit the light, the little floodlight. And this creature was standing there. He was huge. And, I mean, he was at least eight, maybe eight, three quarters tall. And he was standing there, and he was mad, and he was blowing through his lips, you know, blowing back and forth through his lips.
Starting point is 00:36:58 And the guys, you know, they saw it. And, you know, we left. We came back the next day to get measurements and to see if we could see exactly how tall this creature was. And, you know, we do this to basically, you know, debunk ourselves. if something is debunkable or whatever we do it, you know. It kind of keeps you clean, if you know what I mean. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, it was a follow-through.
Starting point is 00:37:29 You know, a lot of these guys don't have any follow-through. You see something and they never go back the next day to get the peripheral supporting. Right. When you fired the laser off at the Sasquatch and you hit in the eyes, how far away from was a creature? And then can you describe at all the face, or was it just a quick moment where yeah I'll describe it for you if you want we were so close
Starting point is 00:37:54 it was probably less than 15 yards from us I mean probably just a hop and a skip for it or less but when we came back the next day okay we had 13 inch footprints right directly behind that tree where something had been stooping there and we had close to 20 inch
Starting point is 00:38:17 footprints where it had come out and we had taken our measurements and everything and, you know, with a little bit of a margin of error, that thing was probably every bit of nine feet tall
Starting point is 00:38:34 and we don't usually see a nine footer out here. Yeah, with a 20 foot. Yeah. And I suppose what it was was was this is an area that they walk all the time.
Starting point is 00:38:51 And what we did was we walked in it in the middle of the night. And we didn't heed that warning. And Papa came and was going to tear us a new little, going to tear us a new butt, to put it that way. But, yeah, the laser, when I hit it with the laser, it stopped its charge. And what it looked like, okay, this creature was massive. and it had a rounder head, and that's nothing unusual for down here in Texas for one of these creatures to have a rounder head, not the, you know, sloping forehead.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Right, you get the type 2s. Right. It had a bit of a brow ridge. Its face was actually not so hairy. It came up to the, I guess, up to the cheek bones, if you understand what I'm saying. Right, right. But the eyes were pretty well kind of open. Of course, the mouth was, you know, long, and the jaw was extremely thick and wide.
Starting point is 00:40:09 And the shoulders were just massive. I mean, they just, they didn't, you know, come right out from the neck and drop down. These things went, oh, man, I would say they were almost the width of Tim's, the cab of the pickup truck. And I'm not kidding. This thing was huge. Yeah, I can relate to that. Oh, yeah, me too. And it was black.
Starting point is 00:40:42 It had the black hair. It had ash color. skin from what I could see. And I saw it real well with the floodlight, and that's why I'm able to describe it pretty well. It turned around. It walked on into the trees, and like, you know, the heck with you guys. I know what I can do, and I'm not going to do it, but I know what I can do, and it's over with and we're leaving.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Pretty much like that. No, I really and truly, I think, of course, this is fear talking. I mean, I was scared. I think if it hadn't been for the laser,
Starting point is 00:41:39 I think we probably wouldn't be here right now. We won't be. Because there was a young one involved and we didn't need the warning. And that's what we should have done and ceded the warning.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Yep, yep, I agree. what warning did it give you bob before it charged well it was the young one uh it gave no yeah it gave no warning uh the young one slapped the tree and i think that was more for uh it's i think it was more for papa's benefit than it was not ours right yeah he was just in let him know that you guys were there right and we just got too close and he charged He threw some trees down, threw some up, and never made a sound other than the charge. But I just really don't think that we would be here if it wasn't for that laser light. That laser light, I think, saved our life.
Starting point is 00:42:39 That's interesting. Yeah, they tend to like to uproot those trees when they're mad. That's for sure. Bob, are you mainly running into them at night, or do you run into them during the day? to as well. Well, to be really honest with you, we do a lot of our work in the evening. We do a lot of the work at night. We do run into them during the day from time to time.
Starting point is 00:43:14 We do know, honestly, after 25 years of mapping and knowing their corridor, we can almost predict where they're going to come out at. It's not always predictable, but we also know where there are some groups where they do bed down. It's all the time thing with farm where they bed down. So we can encounter them during the day. A lot of times most of those encounters are rock throwing, limb throwing, screams at us. pretty much that's about it like that. They peek at us.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Sometimes they run towards us, run at us, or they just try to get out of the way. But like I said, you know, during the day we get hit with rocks, we get hit with limbs. They will actually come and urinate on our equipment. As a matter of fact, Travis, I say that wasn't the welcome, Matt. No, no.
Starting point is 00:44:29 That's all playful behavior. As somebody pees on my gear, I'm not going to be feeling real warm and fuzzy about being there. No, no. Well, you know, we got these trap thermals, and they do the same thing as a game camera, only their thermals. they run for like 16 to 18 hours and we'll put them up and they're real easy to hide but once you get them once
Starting point is 00:45:03 which we have we have done real well with these thermals but once they get your drift they understand what's going on they start avoiding them like yeah they change their pattern
Starting point is 00:45:18 they change their roots and what happens to Travis and I was we had two of them out, one about a quarter mile from the other one. This is the same area where we got a shoulder in the head behind some palmettoes, I mean not palmettoes, I'm sorry, UPons and Screve Oak and things like that. I have that out on YouTube also, but we came and we picked them up
Starting point is 00:45:49 and that old road that runs through there where they did their tree harvesting, you know, their forestry and everything. You know, way back when in the 20s, we left one of the trap cameras sitting there. It was already followed it up. Everything was all put back together and everything. And when we came back, pardon me, when we came back, well, the trap camera, the trap thermal had actually been kicked over and moved. And my dog, he's been squatching with us since he was a puppy, and we've pretty much trained him.
Starting point is 00:46:30 He hits on just about nothing but primates. And so, you know, he'll hit on him. And his hair went up from his head to his butt. And, well, you know, we picked it up, and we went down the road. and after we picked it up and we went on down the road with the other one, we started getting the most
Starting point is 00:46:53 hellacious screams. And they screamed at us all the way back down that road all the way, we were about 50 feet or so from the truck before they finally just went inside. Boom, it was gone.
Starting point is 00:47:11 So they escorted us all the way out and that was a little scary. Yeah But, you know, this is an all-a-time place They have spring-fed ponds out here In that area that I was telling you about And they have criss-crossed trails That run, it's just like a highway
Starting point is 00:47:36 It runs through there You go right behind all the palmettos and bushes and everything And you walk right into their trails And they have really nice little meadows that are near the ponds that have the spring fed, you know. Right. And they bed down in those areas and everything. And they will cross the highway into the other wilderness area also.
Starting point is 00:48:06 And they come back and forth. And we haven't been going in there so much because it's really kind of hard to do any work out there. with regular trap cameras, you know, game cams, put it that way. Sure. And, you know, but now that we have the thermal cameras, we've been able to, you know, get some fairly decent thermal hits. Most of the time, they're a good ways off when we get them. But their heat signature is fantastic.
Starting point is 00:48:40 I mean, you know, it's a squash. And they're huge, you know. We go back in there, we recreate it. and you try to determine, you know, their size and everything and, you know, use our body heat. And they're really nice little cameras. And they show you pretty much everything. And, you know, they go from here to affinity.
Starting point is 00:49:06 So my dog, sorry. anyway they're a good tools for your arsenal put it that way yeah it sounds like it you mentioned you know with the tornos yes there are
Starting point is 00:49:30 how many of those have you seen well we have experienced three in the same areas we have found a lot of abandoned camps from time to time. You know, speaking about
Starting point is 00:49:48 the abandoned camps, it's kind of hard to believe that people would turn around and leave a two or three hundred dollar cabin tent. You know, that's... Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense. You know, they probably just bought for that summer,
Starting point is 00:50:04 you know? Right. And, you know, we find things like that. We have... It's kind of funny. We have... had people what we call the overflow it's basically
Starting point is 00:50:21 overflow camping it's in a very remote area and it's right on the river channel we have actually had people try to throw their tents in the back of their vehicles and actually drag them along while they're trying to get out of there
Starting point is 00:50:40 because of sounds or you know something is in there That's right on their stomping grounds. And they go right through that camp, and they will go right into the Lone Star Trail, which is right across the street. And like I said, it's remote. It comes right off the river canal,
Starting point is 00:51:04 and that's what they walk, that area all through there, back in there, and those swamps. And we have been out there during one expedition and there was quite a few of us out there when a woman and their dogs and their child was screaming. And everybody, you know, went that direction to see what was, you know, what was happening, what we could do to help and everything. And the woman was screaming.
Starting point is 00:51:33 A monster. A monster is trying to take my daughter, you know. Oh, no. Yeah. And apparently she described a squatch. And, yeah, things like that happen out there. But we do run into them. We run into them out there, and we actually run into them in an area that is near Cold Springs, Texas.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Did she ever describe what the creature was doing? As far as trying to take her child, I mean, at that point, it's time to start shooting and asking questions later. But did you describe what it was doing? Yeah, I'd open the tent and try to take the kid. Jesus. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Yeah, that's true. That's all I can say, too. But that happens out there. I mean, you know, a lot of people have gone missing out there. To this day, you know, a lot of them haven't been found. Some have been. There's an area that we just came back from. As a matter of fact, because I just came back out of the field.
Starting point is 00:52:42 and we just put three of those thermal trap cameras up that on the same road, as a matter of fact, where they found 20 human bones. Oh, Jesus. Yeah, and that's in the criminal court records also, because, you know, we try to look that stuff up. But 20 human bones have been found on that road. Has there been any determination of what the cause of it? death was or? We can't get any information other than that.
Starting point is 00:53:17 You know, it's hard to get information. You try and they deny or either they tell you that they don't keep records of missing people, which I know is bull. But the only reason why I know that two people are missing from the torn up camp is because, you know, we were interrogated. for several hours and we basically found that out. That that's what was going on, that they were looking for two people. And the survivor, of course, didn't want to come forward.
Starting point is 00:53:57 But these private investigators were trying to determine, you know, what had happened and where and the people may be. and I hate to say this this is nothing unusual they may find them underneath a stack of logs someplace are in the shallows somewhere
Starting point is 00:54:24 with logs piled on top of them that reminds me of a story that they came up missing a very unusual case yeah and with that case Bob he was actually remember Will he had made a phone call to his wife and said that something
Starting point is 00:55:11 They were pacing him in the woods. And they were tracking the, what was the GPS on the phone? And it's odd that he drowned because where they found him wasn't near water. Yeah, he was running away from the water. Oh, really? Yeah. Well, that's how they find them out here. Of course, you know, they keep it pretty quiet when they do.
Starting point is 00:55:43 And you get a story of, well, you know, a hunter shot a hunter and things like that. But, you know, in the summertime, a hunter shot a hunter. Okay. Right. You know. because most people don't hunt down here in the summertime, unless you're hunting hogs. And as hot as it is right now, I don't even hunt hogs out here.
Starting point is 00:56:05 But on the islands, it seems like they will always drag them to water out here. And they will take them out on the islands, and they will put debris over them, eat what they want. put debris over them maybe 10 years, 5 years or whatever or during another drought and when the water level goes down you'll start finding
Starting point is 00:56:36 human bones, human remains under the you know, under debris large logs and things of that sort. It's funny you mentioned that. It made me think of Quentin, we had him on the show where, I think it was, it's a trap is the name of the show, but we had him on the show. And remember he had mentioned that on Facebook, that they tend to drag them the bodies back to water. It just made me think of what you had just said, you know, with the debris over them. And, you know, we have 20 missing people. You have 20 human remains come up. Either you got a serial killer out there or Sasquatch is going and eating these people. all in the same spot.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Did they find all the remains all in the same spot? They find them all over in particular areas of the San Houston National Forest from one end of it to the other. They find them a lot, I guess you could call it a bone yard. And when we find a bone yard, we will sometimes, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:47 we start picking through and anything we find that is or possibly is human because, you know, I'm not an expert on that. I do have an expert, and he has shown the bones that we find, and he makes that determination usually. It's a possibility, I mean, I'm trying to say this a certain way. It's a possibility that you can find human remains that way, in a bone yard.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Most of the time the bone yards consist of deer, smaller animals, and hogs. But mixed in with that, like I said, sometimes you might unfortunately find a femur.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Now, on this road, they've only recovered 20 bones, which means that there's, what, 200 and something still missing, human bones. I didn't mean to get off on the disappearances and things like that,
Starting point is 00:58:59 and, you know, people who have died out there. But there has been a serial killer out there before who was dumping bodies. But... Is his name's Sasquatch? Well, it was just interesting, you know, that the body recovered.
Starting point is 00:59:15 That the bodies recovered with things like this story. I was about this... Right. Well, we've had similar situations that I'm not real comfortable talking about, to be honest with you. Now, we have had a situation where what happens is out here, I really and truly thank guys that they have audio out here.
Starting point is 00:59:52 I do know that they put up cameras, the Forestry Department, and they do. monitor certain areas out here. But I believe they have other types of ways to monitor this trail that these squashes actually use. And I have mapped it through trial and error. And sometimes you can start hearing them coming using this corridor. And you can hear them making their screams, their hollers, their tree knocks.
Starting point is 01:00:32 You know, you can hear them breaking limbs. They'll pick up and throw, you know, dead trees and things of that sort. Because they do knock these trees open and they do eat, you know, the larvae and things of that sort out of them. But what you will find is that not far from that area, you will suddenly hear a helicopter go up. And that helicopter has a huge floodlight, and it will fly that corridor. Many times it has actually gone over us,
Starting point is 01:01:15 but it will go over those corridors and keep an eye on them. I believe they have ground sensors out there, and I believe that they know that the population is getting very, because they're moving from the south coming up into the northern areas and they are monitoring and keeping an eye on the population out there. I'm not surprised at that. I'm not surprised at all.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Well, I'll tell you, you know, that's just my belief. I've been out there for 25 years. I've seen a lot of the traffic. I see what goes on out there. I've gotten myself in trouble actually surveillancing them as far as the Farther Department watching what they do
Starting point is 01:02:07 because I believe that they do cover this up and I'm putting sticking my neck up neck out there you know saying a lot of this stuff but I do wanted to let you know
Starting point is 01:02:19 that I have a video that I made the very next morning after we found the torn up camp that night. I had to take it down, which I had to take some things down. My lawyer says I can put it back up.
Starting point is 01:02:41 In case your listeners are interested, and if you guys are interested, I'm going to put it back up. And now this is exactly the morning after. Exactly the morning after. I think people would be interested in that. Yeah, Bob, what's the video that was up there before? I thought the one the day after the torn up camp is already up.
Starting point is 01:03:03 No, sir, that was the cleanup. Oh, I got you. We're revisiting the torn up camp. That was the cleanup. That was after the cleanup. Okay. This one is before the cleanup. This is one I had to take down.
Starting point is 01:03:20 And I want to say that, you know, hey, I really appreciate everybody, you know, going and looking at my YouTube and everything and all the nice comments that I've gotten and everything and I appreciate it and it's true some of them have commented that I'm not telling the whole story
Starting point is 01:03:49 and that is true I'm not telling the whole story and you know there's a reason for that And, but I will put that up now since I do basically have permission to put it back up. But it is the morning after. This is the morning after. I got you. And I'm going to put it back up tonight. Yes, send me a link, will you?
Starting point is 01:04:16 And I'll post it on our fan page for the listeners to go to, to check out. I will. What I'll do is I'll send it to you after I get it up. I'll send it to you. I'll message if that's okay. Yeah, that'd be perfect. Okay. I'm kind of curious, do you guys, when you guys are out there, are you armed to the teeth when you're out there researching areas when you go out in the field?
Starting point is 01:04:40 I mean, you guys have to be armed to the teeth, right? Well, we are armed and, you know, each of us carry, you know, a pistol. during hunting season, you know, we buy the license and everything and the public hunting. And, you know, we go in, and we do hunt in the area. You know, we hunt hogs and we hunt, you know, deer and everything. But, you know, that way we can carry our heavy rifles with us and things like that. So, you know, we're always armed when we go out there. And, you know, it's not all because of the Sasquatch.
Starting point is 01:05:17 I really don't want to shoot a Sasquatch. I mean, especially if it's protecting its, you know, family or whatever, it'd be kind of like, I don't know. I would feel pretty bad killing or shooting a Sasquatch that's just protecting it's young. But I would not hesitate doing that to protect myself. I just wanted to let everybody know that, yes, we are armed when we go out there. And a lot of it has to do with hogs. and we do run into a big cat now and then also. And I'm talking about a bobcat.
Starting point is 01:05:55 We do run into cougars now and then out there. And some of them get pretty big. Some of them aren't that big, but we do get some 120-pounders. Isn't it kind of sicken you, though? Can I've heard this? And I guess there's a lot of things that Will and I get sent that we generally don't talk about on the air. You know, there's actually a lot of things, stuff that would make.
Starting point is 01:06:17 the hair stand up on the back of your neck. But you've kind of seen a lot of the stuff firsthand where, I mean, you're finding human remains. And I, and I'm sure I'll get a flute player email, but forgive me, I realize it's not all Sasquatch. I realize that, you know, sometimes people kill people. But there's a lot of these where people go missing and there's a lot of these situations like the torn-up camp. And again, you don't know exactly, well, you probably are more privy to the information to what actually happen. but these situations where people disappear and then you find bodies same way you described. I mean, I can't tell you how many times I've heard that, Will's heard that over and over again,
Starting point is 01:06:59 of exactly the same way these bodies are found. Does it kind of sicken you a little bit that a lot of this is going on and no one's really addressing it? Well, yeah, but it angers me because, I mean, oh hell, you know, look at it. You know, some of these missing are children. Yeah. And, well, there have been serial killers out there. They found, there was one out there that was actually living in the forest. Put it that way.
Starting point is 01:07:32 They found him dead, though. I don't know much about it. And, you know, some of the gangs bring, you know, people out there, kill them and stuff. And, you know, you got things like that. But then when you got, you know, 10 miles up in the middle of nowhere, and you find human remains underneath a pile of debris, you know, logs that have been broken and not sawed, but broken, and, you know, maybe the skull is missing or whatever, you know, something like that, I tend to think that, you know, if I was a serial killer,
Starting point is 01:08:16 I would probably be too lazy to drag somebody out 10 miles in the middle of nowhere just to, you know. Right. And you know that's kind of more of the mark of a wild animal because bears will do that. You know, bear a killer. Well, that's true. And also cats will do that too. Right. Right.
Starting point is 01:08:38 So it's not unusual for wildlife to do that. No, it's not. And everything out there, I've had a couple of these comments. but I do know that not everything out there is Sasquatch. Right, this is true. I've been... I was, you know, I was a prospector, and I've been in the wild for over 40-something years, and I've lived in the mountains.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Hell, I've lived in a cave, you know, prospecting and everything before I got married. put it that way. My wife won't go that. Yeah. I tried it, though, but no, no, couldn't do that. I had to build her a cabin. But anyway, yeah, you know, I've been out there for a long time. I know that's, you know, not everything out there that goes bump in the night as Sasquatch. I mean, I've seen, you know, plenty of things.
Starting point is 01:09:40 And, you know, we have in the past, oh, I guess up to 15 years ago, we have. found some black bear prints but we've never seen one they are they do exist in those areas but very rarely will you see one most of the time they're on the river bottoms and they're closer to Louisiana but they do come up in there but I really don't see a black bear doing some of the things that we we have seen so likely and also
Starting point is 01:10:20 you know guys like in the torn up camp you know I'm trying to show the footprints
Starting point is 01:10:27 and you know these are definitely bipedal creatures that you know
Starting point is 01:10:35 very large footprints bigger than a human being and you know that pretty much tells a story right there
Starting point is 01:10:42 you know to me when we first come around that corner on the torn up camp. I was like a lot of people who have, you know, left comments that, you know,
Starting point is 01:10:52 they got drunk and they fought. Well, you know, that's kind of what I thought at first, too, you know, and maybe somebody was murdered or something. And, you know, I wanted to look and see if there was any way that, you know, if there was any aid that needed to be rendered, we could do that, call 911, get
Starting point is 01:11:07 people out there and everything. And that's one of the reasons why I did, you know, did what I did. When I realized, that everything was torn up behind it, I pretty much realized that I don't believe these people got in a big fight. I believe that these people were attacked, and I do believe that it was a squash that did it.
Starting point is 01:11:35 That's my belief, and, you know, I found all those footprints, the person who left was able to, you know, get to fight his way through the truck, whatever, and, you know, get into it and leave. Apparently the other two just, you know, weren't, you know, just couldn't do it. They were, apparently they were hauled off.
Starting point is 01:12:05 But, yeah, there's times when, you know, there's homeless people that come out there and, you know, live in the campgrounds for their 14 days and then they pick up and leave. And, you know, they might leave their tent or they might leave a couple of dogs and, you know, we've even seen them leave their kids. Good Lord. Yeah. And, you know, after 25 years out here, going from, you know,
Starting point is 01:12:36 one end of the National Forest to the other, I've seen a lot of things Some of them weren't so good Some of them were okay You know And yes You know some of the people Were homeless
Starting point is 01:12:49 But that You know have left You know Tents Left this left that But the thing about it is Is that Most of what they leave
Starting point is 01:12:58 Is You know I hate to say it But you know It's old You know The tents are wore out The chairs are wore out
Starting point is 01:13:06 You know Whatever You know the coolers were styrofoam, they're crushed and everything, you know. But on the majority, a lot of these camps that we find that are just totally abandoned, like I said, you know, there's a lot of equipment that have been left behind. And, you know, I, for one, who buys a lot of Coleman equipment and other types of equipment, I'm just not going to leave it behind unless there's something that's causing me to do it.
Starting point is 01:13:36 Yeah, no, we've, it reminds me of last week The encounter where the people just up and left The Dogman story and the people just kind of up and left All there, they left their trailer, left everything And when you see that, like you said I mean, I can kind of understand old garbage Basically garbage, leave you're leaving garbage behind But when you see stuff that isn't garbage
Starting point is 01:14:00 Where it looks like someone Just up and left That's fear, that's panic right it is it is panic and that's the only way I would leave you know half of what I've found out there you know as far as the torn up tent you know goes you know people say you know people have asked you know okay well where's the where the sleeping bags you know okay where's the grill that they were cooking on you know this has got to be a hoax because you know these things aren't there well actually those things were there uh did they have
Starting point is 01:14:36 was found thrown out into the trees. As far as the sleeping bags, there was a bag in the corner of the tent. And then there was one that was thrown. And I didn't document everything. I mean, you know, at that time, I didn't realize that I, you know, I don't know. I guess I didn't realize that I needed to. I guess, you know, I just took it as face value, you know. I mean, the prince itself just told me the whole story.
Starting point is 01:15:12 And the whole story was, I'm pretty sure that the splotch came in there and tore the place to pieces. Yeah. More than one. More than one. And, but, you know, there were things like that. And there was urination. And there was skin. There was, you know, torn up.
Starting point is 01:15:32 The trees were torn up. and you know I just don't see you know dronks going out there and you know throwing each other against the trees and tearing up this and tearing up you know 30 foot trees and everything yeah I'm sorry I just wanted to address some of the comments that I had I'm sorry no no no no no no no no I'm glad you did because we had a lot of the same comments on Facebook people were saying well this must be drunks well a lot of times if it's drunks I mean I've been out with a lot of drunks before camping. And they may do that sort of thing. But guess what? You'll find one drunk passed out here. You'll find the other drunk passed out over there. You'll find the other drunk passed out over there.
Starting point is 01:16:20 And when you show up and no one's there and it looks like someone unleashed hell on the place, you know, where's all the drunks at? Yeah, there's usually... Yeah. Like drunks being passed out. Yeah, that's right. You know, drunks might pound each other, you know, some of them might get arrested. And that happens out there.
Starting point is 01:16:47 Believe me, it happens in most all campgrounds and places. But, you know, it happens out there. And but they're not going to leave, you know, brand new tents. They're not going to leave brand new stoves. They're not going to leave their children's clothes and, you know, brand new sleeping bags. and I mean, I'm not. I mean, if I was a drunk and I was out there and I had a big fight with somebody and, you know, the next morning I'd get up and if I decided to leave,
Starting point is 01:17:16 I would, you know, pack my stuff up, I wouldn't just, you know, take off and leave. And that's what people need to understand. I mean, you know, a drunk's just not going to leave all that drunk behind, you know, or all that stuff behind. Yeah, sure. I wouldn't. That's too expensive. No.
Starting point is 01:17:40 I was just going to say, I wanted to address some of those things because, you know, I can understand that, you know, people would be, or how people would say, you know, well, drunks did this. Well, you know, there's no sign that there's a, you know, the Sasquatch did this. Well, it's bears, you know. There's very few bear in that area. I mean, if you see a bear in 20 years, you're lucky. as far as there's no sign that Sasquatch did this? Well, I have to tell you,
Starting point is 01:18:14 did you see the footprints that I was trying to show? If those aren't Sasquatch footprints, I don't know what they were. A giant must have been walking around out there. Now, when you went back and you recorded the next day before everything had been cleaned up, did you get any of those prints on film? I tried to.
Starting point is 01:18:39 I'm sure I did. I got some on film. You can see them pretty clearly on that night one. Right. Well, you know, when we went back in there, we were pretty skittish. We didn't really want to get caught in there. So we didn't, you know, spend so much time as far as, you know, walking around making videos and stuff like that. You know, you've got to understand that, you know, I jumped out
Starting point is 01:19:10 that night and I started looking around and then I decided, you know, look, I've got to record this. And so I did, you know. And maybe that looks bad. I don't know. But I did. I recorded it. I thought that people should see it. I thought that people should know, you know. I probably would have done the same thing. and it was the right thing to do camera in one hand gun in the other that's about the way it was almost but you know we and we were getting we were getting lip blows and you know these weren't from deer you know these were something large was out there that had lips was
Starting point is 01:19:55 was out there blowing and sucking back in and you know I'm sorry that I don't have a barrel mic or I don't have a very good handy cam but I didn't really pick them up very well there were some eyeshine we knew that they were close to us and we were scared you know and we didn't you know we didn't want
Starting point is 01:20:20 we didn't want to go missing and just a shock of coming around the corner and finding all of this going on in this very remote area right beside the lake because the lake it's just right through those trees that is showing there. You go right to the left side and there's the lake. People put their canoes in right there.
Starting point is 01:20:51 That's why people camp there. So basically, you know, we were trying to do everything quickly, honestly. and when we went back the very next day and my wife actually went with me and we brought the dog and everything we were skittish, we were nervous and I didn't want to find you know somebody in the
Starting point is 01:21:17 in the bushes you know torn up or net or whatever and we did a little quick preliminary you know this is the next morning you know this is what it looks like you know here's the here's the broken trees and it goes you know this far back and here's the tent you know
Starting point is 01:21:41 and this is where the footprints were and you know the drag marks are here obviously somebody was you know drug out into the into the shallows there and you know it was obvious that no one had come out there yet as far as I knew, as far as, you know, any type of law enforcement or anything, and we had called it in. And so we just kind of wanted to back off and get back out of there. And we checked it.
Starting point is 01:22:17 That's when we came back and we checked it again, and then that's when they were out there. But they weren't. You know, you would think that this is being considered a crime. scene and be treated like a crime scene, that's not what was going on. They were cleaning it up. Yeah, I know. We'll have to have you back on, Bob. I know we're just about almost out of time.
Starting point is 01:22:42 Actually, we are out of time. I know we're out of time, but I wanted to thank you for coming on. And I really wanted to hear more of your stories. God, I can't believe the time's gone by so quick. We'd love to have you back down if you'd be willing to. come back on. Yeah, absolutely. I would love to.
Starting point is 01:23:05 I don't mind. I can, if you want to hear about a really scary story, I can tell you the one about what happened to me and Travis on the Lone Star Trail. I mean, we had a female nearly kill us out there. Really? Oh, yeah, this was about 16 years ago, but I still have nightmares about it. I'm telling you the truth. I still have nightmares about it.
Starting point is 01:23:30 It took me a year. Now, remember, I was a prospector. I spent 40 years, more than 40 years up in the mountains and other places. But it took me a year to go back into the woods, to go back into the forest. I wouldn't even camp into campground. It affected us that bad. Is it a long story? Now it's going to kill me to sit here and wait a week to hear this story.
Starting point is 01:24:00 Thanks a lot, Bob. I'm sorry. Yeah, it's kind of a long story. We'll have to wait for next week, I think. That's the teaser for people to come back next week. There you go. I'm going to be thinking about it all week. I'm going to have to have you email me the story because it's then driving me nuts after about two days.
Starting point is 01:24:24 Okay, well, I wrote about it on my blog. So, Sasquatch Mountain. WordPress, Sasquatch Mountain. That's my blog. Okay. And it's scary night on the Long Star Trail. Of course, you know, I didn't write, I mean, I wrote everything. There's some things that, you know, I could probably tell you that, you know, I didn't put in the story.
Starting point is 01:24:47 But, and then, you know, I have a second one that, where we went back, finally went back. Off to post a link for her image. Okay, I'll send you the link. Pardon my spelling. I know it's bad. And yes, I know that there's a spell check. But, you know, for some reason, spell check still spells it wrong for me. Yeah, I hear you there.
Starting point is 01:25:16 But I'll send you the link, and I'll send you the link to this video I'm going to put up. Yeah, please do. And I'll post all that up on the fan page. You can't wait. All right. And, yeah, I wouldn't mind coming back. You guys have got to come on my show. absolutely what is your show bob i didn't even know he had a show yeah the uh the uh texas big thicket watch
Starting point is 01:25:38 radio oh yeah yeah i've actually listened to your show now i feel stupid oh yeah that was me yeah now what was the one that i was on with you guys and lupé yeah that was uh that that was my show i have yeah i do have my radio show and yeah it was fun uh you know having you on and everything and we need to do it again it's not as good as your show i was telling i was telling west and i and i emailed lupay too i said you know we got to have all those guys on our show so we can all sit around and laugh and tell stories well i'll tell you what you know tim sermons uh he is my part one of my partners in crime of course outside of my sons and uh he has been with me through a lot of this and uh you might like to have him come on
Starting point is 01:26:33 one night with me or something, and he can tell you some pretty good stories. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Especially the charge night. Oh, my God. Yeah. I was holding him up, by the way. Just wanted to say that now, just in case he just come on.
Starting point is 01:26:52 Yeah, I bet. And, Bob, when is your... You know, the big thicket, it's the big thicket watch, right? Is your show you said? Uh-huh, the Big Thicket watch. And have you guys recorded new episodes? I've went through and actually listened to a lot of the archives. I'm always looking for Bigfoot shows to listen to.
Starting point is 01:27:13 And I've actually listened to a lot of yours. Now I feel really stupid. Not even knowing that it was you. But I've actually sat and listened to actually a lot of your shows. And did you guys come back? Because I know you guys were off for a while. Yes. As a matter of fact, we were gone for a while because we were in the food.
Starting point is 01:27:33 We had spent several months in the field. Every day, even now we spend almost three days a week in the field, usually at night, or either picking up our equipment and bringing it back out and things of that sort. We talk about it on the radio show and we have guests and we have guests and and, you know, it's just, you know, playing old blob talk radio show. It's, you know, not as, it's kind of rinky-dink, I guess, you know, compared to you guys. You guys are the professionals there. Yeah, well, I wouldn't go that far, but thank you.
Starting point is 01:28:22 Well, they do enjoy your show, Bob. I actually do enjoy your show a lot. I actually have listened to it a lot, believe it or not. And I have a listen to the new, new episodes. because I'd know she guys went off the air, but I'd go back and listen to a lot of the archives and on the show. Yeah, I can send you some links to the show if you'd like. Yeah, please do.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Actually, I had you guys on, I think I'm following you guys on Blog Talk. Well, great. We've just gained 16 more, which is real good. When we left the show and went out into the field, we had close to a 25,000 listener base, which was real good. I'm hoping we'd get that back up. That's really good, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Yeah. You know, we take a break and we go out, and, you know, we do a lot of work. The radio shows are fun and, you know, things like that. And the blogs are fun because I like to write. But when it comes down to it, you know, it takes up a little bit of time, And we will take a month to two or three months off and we'll do nothing but squash.
Starting point is 01:29:39 Yeah. And it pays off for us, you know. We come back and do our field reports and everything on the shows. Well, thank you so much, Bob. Thanks so much for coming on. And, you know, send me those links and I'll post them up on our fan page for people to go to. and I can't wait to, like I said, it's then driving me nuts for the next week to wait to hear that story.
Starting point is 01:30:09 Well, I appreciate it, guys. You know, it was fun, and I like talking to you too, and I'll get you all on my little show. Yeah, anytime. That was good. Any time. Yeah, I'd love to. Well, thank you for having me and everything.
Starting point is 01:30:27 I hope I answered some more questions and everything. That was awesome as always, Bob All right All right, Bob Thank you so much You're welcome Bye bye
Starting point is 01:30:39 I feel like an idiot now Why is that Well you know I've actually Believe or not I've actually listened to his show a lot And I'd never I guess I didn't put two and two together
Starting point is 01:30:52 And I know for a while Because he does They do tend to do that a lot where they'll do shows for a while, then they'll go, it'll be months before they're going to get another show. They told me they were, yeah, I didn't know the thing.
Starting point is 01:31:16 Yeah. Yeah, I actually enjoyed their show. It's a good show. Yeah, no, they're a lot of fun. I mean, we set around. Yeah, I like Bobba. I actually like Bob a lot. But I can't wait to have him hear that story.
Starting point is 01:31:48 I wish you would have told it tonight. It's drive me nuts. I know. Well, you know, I'm the same way. It's like, you know, you can talk along for an hour. Yeah. Well, we'll have to have them on next week and hear that story. Yeah, yeah, man, definitely.
Starting point is 01:32:12 You know, with all the things... We've got all the listeners on the hook. Yeah, well, that was unintentional. This is true, or was it? You know, when you hear all the stuff Bob talks about, and especially going on in that area, I mean... You know, it made me think of the things that... Yeah, it does.
Starting point is 01:32:38 there were a lot of similarities. I'd love to see a couple flute players run into a couple of these Sasquatches on a bad day. I bet a lot of one change their tunes. Type 2, which I'm pretty sure is what we're talking about there, are definitely more aggressive than the other kind. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:56 Yeah, I think down there in the Big Thicket, that's what they... I mean, I'm theorizing, but I think that's what they have down there. You know, like Bob said, it's pretty... It's out of the ordinary to get one that's nine feet tall. Well, I think up here, that's kind of what we, up here in Washington and Pacific North West. Right, that's kind of the type one version. It's a little bit more of the norm. But they tend to be stacked pretty big, just like, they may be a little bit shorter,
Starting point is 01:33:22 but they seem to be built the same way as the type one. Yeah, I don't think there's a huge... Right. Kind of like the Yahwehs, you know, the Yahwehs in Australia. We have a lot of, actually a lot of listeners in Australia, and in the UK that always send us information. about the yaoies. We got to have someone on from there to talk about the yui.
Starting point is 01:33:51 I went in contact with a couple. Yeah, those yawis seem like they're, they almost seem more hell-bent on than the ones that we have here in the U.S. See, now they've got the two types just like we talk about the type. Right, right. But I think anywhere. Yeah, I can't wait.
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