Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:35 Scary Night On The Lone Star Trail

Episode Date: June 17, 2014

Bob Garrett returns to share his scary night on The Lone Star Trail. "There came a smell on the wind that we knew well. We had smelled it many times. We had a Sasquatch near by. I could hear some moving around behind the camp. It was coming closer to us! But that was ok, we had this happen before. There was a row of eight to ten inches round pines right next to my right side. Those pines began to shake as something was coming through them right at me! The screams were making my ears ring. I saw huge hands coming right for my head and so I dropped to one knee and put my shotgun in this enraged Sasquatches middle. I was about to shoot this thing, but it backed off quickly"  

When I had come down the hill, I had seen this creature cross the road. They would have ripped my locked door from my truck, extracted me from my vehicle, and there wouldn't have been a damn thing I could have done about it. Look, this thing I got to notice in his eyes. His eyes was real, real evil, real sinister looking. You know, the look it was giving me. What are you reporting? What he out here?

What's going on now, sir? That's the sort of a bitch is about six foot. Yes, I'm looking right here. Welcome to Bigfoot Hot Spot Radio, Sasquatch Chronicles. I'm your host, Wes, along with my brother Woody, and researcher, author, and friend, William Jeffey. Let's start the show. So tonight we have kind of a special night. We have two people that we're bringing on to Saskatch Chronicles. Actually, they've always been kind of a part of Sasquatch Chronicles. They're not really new to the show. Probably new to the audience, but I wanted to go ahead and introduce them. Everyone knows Woody, my brother Woody.

he's kind of come back to the show on a permanent basis along with Will and I. And we're also going to be adding Ramona. Ramona's been working with us for a few months now. She's been kind of in the backdrop doing a lot of stuff behind the scenes, but she's been helping us a lot with some projects we have coming up. So you guys might see the Sasquatch Chronicles brand kind of build a little bit from this point on. But she's been helping with that on the back end. And so what we thought we do is kind of introduce him, bring him on, bring Ramona on, bring Woody back, take the show bigger than what it has been in the past.

So tonight, Will, Woody, and Ramona will be taking over the show for the night. I kind of feel like I'm handing over the keys to the Millennium Falcon. So, you know, not one scratch on my show. I'm too joking. You can be a wild rag with. You heard what happened to Holland Solo. He broke his ankle on the Millennium Falcon. And so, you know, I hope you can watch Marlborough.

That's all I could do. Yeah. Bring my ship back from one piece. We can't promise anything on Dents. Yeah. So I'll let you guys take it over, and this will be nice. I'll be able to sit back like a fan and just listen to the show. So I'm kind of excited.

I have two guests. Bob Garrett's back. Everyone has been waiting for the cliff holder about his... But our first guest is Diedra. Hi, Diedra. This is Will, Webb, Woody, and Ramona. Hello. You've got the full lineup tonight.

Oh, my goodness. Well, we're trying things a little bit different starting this week. So what I'd like to have you do is to begin by just telling us about your encounters. Of course. Okay. Well, I can tell you that I live in. in central Texas in a rural area near Fort Hood, Texas. And I have two dogs, a blueheeler, and a pit bull, and I walk them early every morning.

And usually between six and seven in the morning. So I noticed in 2007 that there were some strange, I've, noticed when I was out walking, we have these big, I guess they call them like, okay, what kind of trees are they? They're big, bushy kind of pine, pinion pine tree type things here. They're not very big, but they're, like, real bushy. They're maybe like 15 feet higher, so. Anyway, I kept noticing on the walk that these branches were being, like, twisted and popped,

you know, kind of like twisted. maybe like, I don't know, like something was taking them and twisting them and breaking them, but like up towards teen feet in the air. Well, I mean, I'm kind of like the rest of a lot of America. I've seen a lot of Bigfoot shows and stuff, you know, on TV. And I had seen this one thing in the 90s called Animal X, I think, and they were talking about, I'd never heard of this, but they were talking about how they had this idea that Bigfoot broke branches, you know, and that's how they marked their territory.

or something, I can't remember. But anyway, so I thought, hmm, that's kind of interesting. That was in 2007. Okay, I also wanted to tell you that I live about a mile from the Lampas River. And I guess a couple of weeks after I had noticed the tree branches, I was walking.

It was really early. Like I said, it was probably around 6.15, 6.30 in the morning. I noticed that everything was really quiet. Like, I usually stop in this one. one part of my walk where I give the dog some water and I take some water myself. And I didn't hear like any birds chirping. Everything's waking up early in the morning. And then I heard like this weird like, ah.

And it wasn't like a dog because, you know, dogs kind of go, you know, oh, like that. Sorry. But it was like, it was a lot deeper than my voice. Okay. it was like a male, like, really like, ah, really loud. And my dog, they just didn't even react to it. It was weird. So, I mean, it went on for a good, I don't know, I'm going to say 15 or 20 seconds.

Like, longer than a person could probably do it, you know, like maybe something with bigger lungs. Yeah. So I thought that was kind of really creepy, like the hair on the back of my neck stood up. And I was kind of like, what? So then I guess a couple of weeks after that, I kind of walk around in the same area all the time every morning. I've got a neighbor, okay? He's got one of my neighbors has a chain-length fence. It's about five and a half feet high from the ground.

It's got wooden posts. And the wooden posts are in the ground with concrete. Anyway, my dog always stopped and they like to sniff around that area. and do their business and stuff. Anyway, I started noticing that the fence at the top was like pushed down, you know. So I thought, great, like this guy's got teenagers getting on his land or something at night or somebody's getting on his property, you know. But I started really kind of taking a good look and I noticed that if somebody's going to climb a fence,

at least I know in my youth when I climbed fences, I put my feet. in the bottom part of the gaming fence, you know, and then you pulled yourself over. This didn't have any stretching, like, I can send you some pictures of it if you want me to. This doesn't have any, like, stretching or give at the bottom, like, where somebody would put their foot, you know, and climb over. It was, like, somebody who had five and a half feet legs, you know, just kind of like held on to the top of it, kind of pushed it in some, and stepped over. Yeah, I thought that was like really very odd. So I have a, I know some other people kind of walk once in a while too. Well, there's a veterinarian that walks and I see him occasionally.

And I told him because I knew that he knew this neighbor and I didn't know this man. And I said, you might want to tell your neighbor that I think somebody's getting on his property. You know, you might want to have him kind of, you know, come out and look at this. So I noticed the very next day when I walked by, I guess the man had taken, because it looked like something was like putting their hand down next to the wooden post. So the man had taken nails, like he took nails and like pounded it into the post, you know, to like keep whoever it was from putting their hand on the post near where they had pushed the fence way down and made it sag to go over. Anyway, it was kind of interesting. Then I started kind of noticing there's an area where after it rains sometimes there's this ditch and it fills up with water. And my dog, oh my God, they love to run and stomp around it and then drink out of it and stuff.

Well, I noticed when it was drying up that I kept seeing like footprints like a person but like big footprints, like 14, 15 inches, like much bigger than my foot. sometimes I would see partial footprints, sometimes I would see like a whole footprint. I sent you a picture of one. It's out of that ditch area. And I just noticed that it was very, you know, it was just weird. So I asked the veterinarian when I saw him walking,

I said, you know, do you know what this is? Do we have bears in the area? I mean, you know, I was trying to kind of like, you know, was this a bear? I don't know. he said it was not a bear print and that we did not we had not had bears in Lampas County since the 50s because he kind of grew up in this area so um I was back to okay am i seeing what I think I'm seeing I do have other pictures but um they don't always come out so good because I'm taking them with my cell phones so uh that was one of the best ones that I have but I sent you so anyway um I just kind of skipped a 2008, I had another strange experience where my husband was out of town, and I woke up, like, around 1, 1.30 in the morning. And something, I don't know if it was in my backyard or if it was in, because I have like a field and then kind of a mountain behind my property.

And I heard like this, like, again, like deeper than I can make my voice. But it was kind of like whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop. but like deeper than that and then I was kind of laying there like freaking out like what is this I heard my cat because my cat had been out and he was at the back door

and he was like meow now now and so I'm just like frozen because I'm freaking out then I hear this thing it starts like it starts chattering like I just I just

I know this just sounds retarded but um well just like this weird, chattering. I've never heard anything like that. And then it would stop and go, whoop, whoop. And then it started mimicking my cat.

It was like, meow, meow, meow. And I thought, my God, this thing is like trying to get my cat. I'm very protective of my animal. So I turned the light on. It stopped, like instantly, like no sound at all. And my dogs, they sleep on either side of the bed, on their bed. They were sitting up, but they weren't making any noise at all. dogs will bark at other dogs in the middle of the night and wake us up, they'll bark at my cat.

They'll bark. And they were not barking. It was so strange. So I got up and crept to the back door because we have a back door off of our bathroom and our patio off our bedroom. And I opened the door just slightly and my cat like shot in like the devil was after him. So that was weird. I did not turn lights on outside or look around or anything.

because I did not want to see what was making that voice. So I guess I'm going to say later on in the year, like the end of 2008, maybe 2009. My husband was out of town again, and my mother-in-law was visiting. We both woke up probably like, I want to say, around 3 or 4 o'clock in the morning, we heard this God-awful screaming like someone being slaughtered is the only one. way that I can put it. I mean, it literally, I sat up in bed, and I ran into the hallway, and my mother-in-law was already in the hallway, and we were just like, what?

And we were, like, looking out all the windows, trying to see, you know, like, if we could see something, we were not going to go outside, and I do not want to turn any lights on. It went on about 10 minutes or so, you know, and to begin with we thought, my God, somebody is killing someone. so many is being slaughtered, and I don't know why we didn't just call the police, but we were so freaked out. And then afterwards, when we were talking about it, we thought, well, it didn't really sound like a human being, but then it kind of sounded like a woman. I don't know.

It was very strange. Then, I guess, maybe later on in 2009, in the springtime, another neighbor that lives right next to the neighbor who's got the family. that got pulled, the pole got pushed down. His fence, he has a taming fence too, okay, but he's got metal poles, and these poles are in the ground with cement. Okay, somebody or something had pulled part, I'm going to say, about a 20-foot, or 20-foot long area of his fence. They pulled up three poles out of the round.

Wow. with the cement still attached to it, pulled up and out towards the road. Not towards the inside of the fence. Like if a car had hit it, you know what I mean? I'm talking something had pulled the fence up, okay? I don't know this neighbor. That's definitely not something that just anybody could do.

So that's going to draw some... Yeah, that's something a machine. has to do. It's right by. For myself, I said not just anybody, but I think I can probably do it. But yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I was like, you know, because I've done a lot of work.

Wes and I have built a lot of founties and stuff. And those things are not light. I mean, they're very, very heavy. We're talking probably 150, 200 pounds. And for someone to pull that amount of weight or it's theory. It was right by where the dogs like to, what was weird was it's right next to the water, what I call their watering hole where I see the footprints and stuff, okay? And it just, I was like, my mom was walking with me that day and we just looked at each other

because we had already come to the, I mean, kind of the idea that, well, maybe there's like big foot, maybe he's in this area. I don't know, you know, because, you know, the TV shows always say, oh, no, you know, they're in the northwestern part of the United States and Canada, you know, this is like central Texas, there's nothing, they're not here, they're not here, you know. So we were just like, okay, something bizarre is going on here. I know that when my neighbor put his fence back up, but then the net, he took him a couple of weeks. He now has, like, you know what I mean, by the concertina wire, like the rolled, barbed wire, you know,

he's got that all around his fence now on the top. Wow. So I thought that was very, very strange. So, and then I guess I would say then I guess I jumped to like June 2013. We have fruit trees in our backyard. I have a huge peach tree that's like, I don't know, I planted it 15 years ago, so it's big. I know I've never had anything happen to the peaches or anything, but something or someone came in my yard in the middle of the night

and took, getting ready to pick the peaches, they cleared the whole tree off. But what was weird was they were all like drops along, we live on a dirt road, a private road. And all the way up to the highway, there were like half-eaten peaches and stuff on the ground, and like they were just all gone. Very strange, so I don't know if that had anything to do with it,

but on the same. And so then I guess it's all leading up to August of June 2013 when I finally think I saw the thing. And this was in the afternoon, and I was driving down the county road. And the county road is 60 miles an hour, so I was going 60 miles an hour. And this is right across the street from my private road, and I was coming from, my mother lives a mile away from us, and I was going into town. I saw this I just looked over to the writer I never would have seen it

it was kind of stepping into a tree line that's right next to the road and it was like this inky black like really kind of like sturdy looking like bulky figure I'm not good at judging size or height but I know that it was well over six

feet tall because it looked tall standing next to the tree, which was like a big ash tree. But it was stepping into this really thick area of bushes and trees and stuff. And it didn't, okay, I couldn't make out the features because I was going so fast and I just saw it for like two seconds maybe. But it was, the only way I can describe it is, you know how when you see a black cat, you know, and you're out driving or something and they just have that inky black look when you see them? Right.

Like, you know, like the sun or like they're just absorbing the light. That's kind of what that fur looked like on it. And it kind of had like a head that kind of like went up to a point in the back, like the forehead was flat or something. And then it just went like straight down from the back because I kind of thought at a diagonal angle. I didn't see it head on and I didn't see it completely sideways. So what's the way is it? well yeah kind of all I thought to myself was I did not just see that not in August in the middle of the afternoon it's 90 degrees outside they tell you on TV that these things like only come out at night why am I seeing this in the middle of the after I mean it just freaked me out I was like no no no no that was what I was thinking no no no I did not see that I did not see that and it just made me sick to my stomach so anyway

that's kind of where I am, and that's why I sent you the... I love your radio show, because I just feel like you guys are treating this like what I think it is. Because if it's a wild animal, I don't know to understand these people that are on TV that are running around wanting to sing kumbaya with these things. I mean... Well, I'll tell you, all four of us have seen these things, and we know exactly what you're talking about, your feelings, and I think a lot of that kumbaya attitude is from people who really don't know what they're talking about.

They haven't seen anything or if they have. It's some result of their psychological reaction to whatever they saw, and it's not accurate. I'm going to run through a number of questions, and some of these may seem like they're repetitive, but it's so when you kind of maybe dig at the... Now, during all these incidents from the... beginning in 2007 to 2013. You mentioned your mother-in-law was with you, but was anyone else with you during any of those occasions? My mother occasionally walks with me.

She has smaller dogs, and sometimes she would meet me and walk with me. So she's seen the footprints, she's seen the fence pushed down, and she saw the fence pulled out. How about any other people? Were there any others nearby who may have seen or heard any of these things during Okay, just random things, I can tell you a couple of random things. I have another neighbor who lives on the same road that I actually know. And she and I, like if she sees me out, you know, we'll stand there and chit-chat. She lives almost across the street from the guy whose fence at the top was being pushed down.

And her husband was deployed at the time. So I would stop and I asked her. I said, is everything okay? you know, do you guys need anything? Because kind of Army people, we all sort of have taken care of each other. She said, no, I'm doing fine. She says, I like to stay out here at night. She said, but the other night I was sitting out here.

Now, there's a house that's right across the street from her that was for rent or on this road. It's not really a street, but a road. And they were military people, and they had rented their house out. There were woods behind all of this on this property, and there's, like, a pond, and there's a big ranch behind there, too. So anyway, she said, yeah, she goes, I was sitting outside in the front yard, but I don't do it anymore because a few nights ago I was sitting out here and I heard somebody walking around in that yard that those people, you know, they rented their house out. They're gone now. They've gone, you know, to another base.

And she said, I called out because she said they were stomping around. It was really loud. They were like, bum, bum, bump, bump. and so she said she called out and said hey you know i have like a weapon over here so you need to leave she said there was then there was just silence and nothing else and she said it kind of creeped her out and she went in her house well i tried to like tell friends and family about this and they just kind of laugh at me so i wasn't going to tell my neighbor gee maybe bigfoot was like stopped here over there okay so yeah so that's the only people you try to tell were friends

and family, right? Yeah. You know offhand if anyone notified any sort of authorities or any authorities may have been involved in these incidents? I don't know. I really don't know to tell you the truth.

I know that there's another neighbor because I walk down this road and it curves all around in different areas and stuff and there's another neighbor that's maybe an eighth of a mile or something away from. the people that have the fence pulled up,

they put concertina water around their yard, around their fence. Very strange. And this is something new in the last year that they did this. And I didn't want to, like, I don't want to be a nosy, you know,

like, hey, excuse me, but why are you putting the wire up on your fence? It seems unusual, doesn't it? Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, I realize that, you know, it's a rural area, of, but there's really nothing that you have to really be afraid of out here. I mean, there's not, it's not like, I don't know, I mean, we feel safe, and for God's sake,

it's Texas, everybody's back, and, you know, I mean. Right. No, let me ask you, did you feel after people sort of didn't want to accept your story that you needed to keep the account secret? I, I don't know. I tried reaching out the different people and stuff. but then I didn't get anything back. You know, I don't know.

I went back and forth, kind of like I, you know, when I first wanted to tell people, but then you kind of get negative feedback. So then I was like, I'm not saying anything. In fact, when I saw this thing last August, I didn't even tell my family right away. It was kind of like, no, no, no. I'm not saying anything because everybody's going to think I'm insane.

I am not saying anything. What, did you finally decide to come out and talk about this? publicly. Because I like your radio show and I feel like you guys are just kind of letting people talk about their experiences and not feel, you know, like they're insane or that, you know, they're being told, no, well, it's not in your area. So, you know, you must be imagining things or you must, you know. That's the answer we're looking for.

Good answer, good answer. Did you have any thoughts about why the creatures, might have been doing the different things they were doing? I think they're moving in and out of the area because it seems like they'll be like these little spurts of activity and then there won't be anything at all. So I don't know if they're just kind of moving around. I think they kind of stay in this area, but I got to be honest, I think they're just living under everybody's nose.

And it is how they move throughout their ranges. They don't stay in one place very long. And I can tell you things like with you. your fruit trees. I've seen that a few times before. I don't know if West and Woody are familiar with the area. Just north, there's a number of old abandoned fruit

orchards out there. One place I'm thinking of is a lot of cherries. You know, the house, just like you mentioned, up to a height of maybe 12 or 13 feet, everything was stripped. All the cherries gone, you know. And same with apples and others.

And you mentioned very common in these situations. Well, that just stared me to death. I mean, I've never heard anything sound like that before. Based on the movement, and you will kind of been going back and forth and how they travel on stuff, have you seen when you were talking about how it rains in the ditch holes up full water and you were seeing the footprints, did it look like they were going into the water, coming out of the water, were they traveling through that canal?

Did you see the footprints further down? Okay. You know what I did? I did. think? Mm-hmm. Yeah. It seemed like they were going in one direction, like, away from the neighbor who they were just

pushing the fence down towards the neighbor that they pulled the fence out. It's kind of in between there. And I would see like the... So that was a comfortable way to travel back and forth without being... Yeah, that's a good question. Right. He found tracks. He thought it was...

He had seen a fun. father and his kids out playing in this little watered area. He came by a few days later when the water had, and we were in the field at the time. And we were talking about this, and I said, geez, that you found Sasquatch tracks. You know, described how large it were, and when we went back through this waterway, and they were a little over 14 inches about the size of the Patterson Sasquatch tracks. And years ago, you know, Bob Titmus found the same thing. You know, a Sasquatch is walking through a small pond.

He actually drained the pond. to do that on a fairly common basis. I just got the feeling that they were maybe stopping to drink water or something because it was like it would always be on the edge. You know, like it would fill up and then when it would start with two recede, it was like they were standing on the slope of it. Like I maybe just like either stepping over or like standing and getting something to drink, I guess. I don't know.

How do you feel about being in that area after? after knowing what's there now. You know, I feel like this whole experience has ruined my love of nature because now I feel like I have to have eyes in the back of my head because I don't know if one of these things is going to like, you know, I don't know. It just, ugh, it creeps me out. And I grew up, I'm from Arizona, okay? So I grew up in Phoenix and, you know, we went hiking in the mountains on the weekend.

and camping and fishing and I love the outdoors and I love to be active. But now I feel like, I feel like I would have to like take my husband's 8047 to like go camping. Right. How do you think you'd react to another encounter with one? Oh my God. I probably would like, pretty vomit or something. I mean, it just creeps me out. I'm going to be honest with you.

I wish that you guys knew how to get rid of them because if I could. could get them out of this area and I would be very happy. I do not like them there. It creeped me out. Kind of lost the subject a little bit, but what kind of dogs do you have? I have a blue healer and a pit bull. Oh, hey, I got two of them myself. My brother has one.

But you know what? So you kind of feel like you have to watch your dogs all the time. You don't want them disappearing, right? That's kind of an airy feeling as well. I don't let them out at night by themselves. if they need to go out to go out in the middle of the night, I keep them close to me. I will turn the lights on in the backyard, and we have motion sensor lights and stuff now that I did my husband put in, and I stand in the backyard with them while they're going to the

bathroom. I don't let them go anywhere without me. Do your motion sensor lights ever come on for apparently no reason? Yeah, sometimes, but I guess I always think we have a lot of deer here. and, you know, critters, like we've had stunk and possums. I was thinking back to the Honovia situation where they had the motion and these creatures, they figured out how far they could come in where it would trigger those lights and the lake sticks down to mark the distance. Oh, that's horrible.

That was going to be a question that I had if she had noticed anything like markers, trees, limbs, branches laid out about the yard anywhere near the motion sensors? I had not thought to look for anything like that. I mean, I could, but I hadn't really, I'm not really an active, like, I'm going to tell you, I'm not actively like, oh, I want to be like a Sasquatch hunter now. It's more like I'm looking like I don't want a Sasquatch to let grab me

and eat me in my dogs. So that's kind of the viewpoint that I'm coming from. Right. Defensive. Yeah. I don't think any of us want to be lunch. Yeah. I don't.

And there's people that are all like, uh, sales buck and calling them and stuff. I mean, are they insane. If these things are like bears, they're big like bears, I mean,

I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't go stomping off hunting bears in the woods. Those people have no idea what they're doing with wildlife. They have no idea whatsoever. Absolutely. Right after West's encounter, we went back. This was like about two weeks later after we had our encounter in the same area. And I have two pit bulls.

Wes has a pit bull. And they're full-size. He has a male, like two females. And we took the dogs out with us, and they did pick up on a scent in the same area. And so West and I got very, you know, we were, all our alerts went on, our spider senses all went on. And it turned out to be a deer. but I was very fearful for what the thing and what it could do to my dogs.

It could absolutely rip three pit bulls apart with no problem. It would be like a breakfast for them. You know what I mean? And I'll never forget that when we were walking down the same room. It happened to be a deer, but I got really scared for a second because they picked up on something and they bolted. But yeah, I know what you're saying. I was pretty nervous.

And that's three pit bulls. There's not a lot of things that could do not three pit bulls. No, I mean, they have like these big, like, anaconda jaws and stuff and teeth, and their mouth looks like an alligator or a big, you know, yeah, they are. I have, like, a big male. We call them Lance Hearts. That's what we call them. That's the nickname is Landsharks.

And, I mean, really, my blueheeler is the one that's fearless. She will chase anything. She does not care. she, you know, even people, like, and she's very businesslike, like, if you're in my home, we call her the affection sponge, you know, because she just, she'll be all over you, like, love me, pet, me, love me, pet. But if you were to meet me out on the road when we're walking, she wouldn't want you to be within 10 feet of us.

Yeah. She just will go for you, you know. Yeah. But any time that, like, you know, all these that I've heard and seen, it's like, she just like she's not even hearing it. It's so weird. That's like for a long time I kind of struggled like, am I imagining

things? Am I? But then like I'm not imagining like physical things happening the physical evidence. But I couldn't imagine why the dogs don't do anything. It's weird.

It's like because they see a deer. They're on it. You know. Right. And I think that's normal to think that you're imagining things because, and I've talked to Will on the phone.

on the show and him and I and West have a discussion about this you know prior to the show I had to reaffirm that is this really happening did this happen or did I dream this you know what I mean yeah I think everyone has asked themselves that question over and over again you're trying to come to terms with what you saw and yeah most of us had that encounter so well it's always a question like am I crazy yeah right just backing up to uh the man that had the fence posts removed. I know you didn't want to ask a lot of questions, and it's completely understandable,

but obviously he said, you know, they were pushed out toward the road instead of in as if a car had hit it. So there must have, I guess no one noticed any markings on there, like nothing hit those posts. Literally, they must have been pulled up or pushed over out of the ground.

it was pulled straight up okay it was like it was like the the holes that the concrete was in was still intact it was like something came and and pulled it straight up and and out and I should have looking back in retrospect I probably should have taken pictures but I kind of feel weird about taking pictures of people's property and you know like standing the They're like, click, click, click, click. You know, I mean, it's kind of creepy. But, yeah, it was like the, literally something, and there were three of the fence posts. Because I remember thinking, my God, what is this, had literally just been, and the holes, you know, where they pour the concrete, it was still round. Like something just went and went, pull up and then out towards whatever it was that was pulling it out. We're running a little short on time, so Deidre, we really appreciate you coming on. Sure.

And very interesting, everything you told us detail-wise, fits right in with numerous, mentioning things. That's what's happening in your area. Well, thank you for letting me talk because I just feel a whole, I feel like I'm getting a burden lifted off of me. I know. Keep in touch and, you know, we'll help out any way we can. I will.

In fact, if I see more foot kind of. I'll be happy to send them to you the picture, so you can kind of see what's going on. And I don't remember. Did I send you pictures of any of the signs to look for? No, uh-uh. Okay, I'll do that. So you can keep your eyes open for some things there.

Okay, great. All right, well, thank you very much for having me on your show. I really do enjoy listening to it. Oh, thank you. Thank you very much, Deidre. Yeah, thank you a lot, Debra. Okay, well, thank you. Good night. Good night. Well, for the third week in a row, we're having Bob Garrett back.

We left everybody with a pretty good cliffhanger last week. Bob was about to tell us his scariest encounter, and knowing Bob, I'm sure it's a really good on the edge of your seat story. So without any further ado, we're going to have Bob Garrett. How's everybody? Hi, Bob. How are you this evening? Oh, I'm good. We just had a bad storm.

So if you lose me, that might be part of the problem. I think our listeners will string us up if we lose you. Yeah. We've been getting a lot of hate mail for making them wait the whole week. Oh. Well, I hate that. I'm sorry. Well, I guess we can go right to it, Bob.

everybody's been waiting on the edge of their seat to hear about your scariest encounter. That happened to me and my son, Travis, about, I guess now it would be close to 17 years ago, 16 years ago. We do a lot of work on the Lone Star Trail, and we had been getting reports in this area, that no one actually will stay and camp beyond the river and that trailhead that we went in on. So, you know, like good little Sasquatchers, we decided that we'd go check it out. Well, you know, while we were going down there,

we had our packs on and everything and, you know, our tent. We rolled up and on our packs and all of that stuff. And people were telling us, oh, you don't want to camp in there. You go right through that area. You don't want to camp in there. So, you know, we kept on going, and it's about six miles down where we camp. And when we got up in there, well, you know, it's a beautiful area. It starts, this starts, we're on the loneliest part.

of the Lone Star Trail here in Texas. It is just beautiful. And right away, we noticed that there's an abundance of game, lots of deer tracks, hog tracks. And we also noticed that there was Pissaman trees, there was wild plum, there were berries, grapes. And also, we discovered that there is a spring. that was bubbling up and went down about maybe 3,400 yards

and went back down into the ground, which is kind of rare out here, you know. But it was beautiful. And we went all the way down, you know, we went all the way down to the Sanjah Center River bottoms. And it was just, you know, totally beautiful. If I was the Sasquatch or if I wanted to go out there and live, that's one of the places I'd probably go.

So we came back in. you know, came back up to where we were going to camp. And it was a real nice spot. There was a little grove of pine trees, maybe about nine, ten inches around and looked on a little bit bigger. And the trail crossed right past where our campfire was going to be and everything. And we set up our camp. and my son set up or laid out a really nice fire and everything.

We didn't light it right away because one thing I like to do is I like to let the darkness, you know, come on and, you know, watch the stars come out and everything and listen to the, you know, the night sounds and things of that sort. So that's what we did. we're sitting by near our camps I mean near our tents well you know we were watching the stars

and you know you could hear the little birds and everything going to sleep you know they make little whistles and everything every once in a while in their sleep and it was all real good and then the

forest got very quiet and as it got quiet we heard something behind us. And as I said, there was a grove of little pine trees on the side of us, which was actually the right side. And we had our tents right behind us, and then there was an opening behind our tents. It was very obvious that what was coming was bipedal, was heavy, and seemed to be having a little trouble walking. well all of a sudden there was a roar from behind us and you know we turned around real fast and something was basically reaching through these trees shaking these trees and pulling them out

I got down on one knee I have seen them hunt elk and deer and I see what they do to them And all I saw at that moment was these big hands coming from my head. And I got down on one knee. I had my shotgun, and I stuck that shotgun up in its midsection. And I was just pulling the trigger. I mean, I was within microseconds of pulling that trigger when it backed off. And when it backed off, it had a... expression on its face, not

unhuman. And its eyes actually went up, or its eyebrows actually went up in surprise. I suppose it knew what that shotgun could do and it backed off. But when it backed off,

it began to pull those trees up and it and throw those trees down towards us. Also, it began to discreet. bloody murder. And it screamed and screamed.

And it went all around our camp and all around our camp and screamed and screamed and it was throwing actual trees, knocking them down and throwing trees out at us. And it was throwing iron ore rocks because that used to be where they got a lot of iron ore at one time. And it was throwing these iron ore rocks and dirt and stuff at us. And this thing just, it just was screaming like a crazy person or crazy thing, you know, like it was just totally insane. Yeah.

And it basically was having a meltdown. I mean, that's the only thing I could think of was that this creature was having a total meltdown that we were there. I watched my son's back as he lit the fire and we were actually pulling trees up that it was throwing at us and putting it in the fire

and burning them. You know, as they went along and we'd pull them up a little further and a little further and we would keep small things in there to keep it all going and get some good coals and everything and watching our back, watching I think so. Yeah, we did, actually.

Wow. Hummer. He was just getting into it, right? Oh, wow. That would be that weather stuff he was talking about. Yeah, he said he's been having some problems with his phone most of the night. I'll tell you what. Let me give him a call real quick back, and if that doesn't work, we'll move on to Mike.

We'll give Mike another shot, and then if that doesn't work, we'll figure something else out. Okay. Give me a second here. I'll try him one more time. Okay. Everyone here at Bigfoot Hotspot Hot Spot Spot Radio would like to thank Audible.com. Audible.com is the internet leading provider of audiobooks with over 150,000 different titles to choose from. To download a free audiobook of your choice, go to audibletrial.com forward slash bigfoot hotspot.

That's okay. We're happy to have you back. Hey, guys, I got Bob again on the phone here. Hello, uh. Okay. Hey. some sort of storm action going on and being kicked off. It's kind of out of our control, but we'll do what we can here. So welcome back, Bob.

Just kind of go ahead and leave off where you were, and we'll continue to show. Okay. Thanks for picking up this phone, and if you get kicked off again, I'll give you a call back. So here we go. Okay, thank you. You're welcome.

Yeah, what I was going to say was the reason why I knew it was a female is because it looked way down at me. It had to bring its head way down because, you know, it's very tall. It had to bring its head way down, and I realized that, you know, I would seem breast also. But that's how I found out or realized that it was a female. But she went on and on

just all around the camp, screaming, hollering, and carrying on. and I was not going to walk six miles back in the dark to the trailhead with that, you know, behind my back. Because, I mean, honestly, it wouldn't have been safe. And I wasn't sure how safe we were there. She eventually sat down out there at the edge of the camp. and it was like she just was bawling and screaming

and having a total mental breakdown and then she gets up, she goes on into the woods and we could still hear her out there in the woods, circling around and screaming, but it wasn't quite intense. This was later, on in the, you know, in the early, early morning hours.

But we had a bonfire going. I mean, believe me, everything she threw at us went through the fire. We had one big bonfire going. And I'll tell you what, we must have been in shock because we were sweating profusely, but we were having cold chills like it was wintertime. and it just kind of did something to us I've never been able to forget it

and I have a lot of nightmares occasionally about it from time to time not as bad as in the beginning but I didn't go and camp out do any wilderness camping like that for almost a year

and even to this day sometimes when I'm out there in the dark I get butterflies in my stomach and so does my son and I don't mind telling anybody that I was petrified what do you think of your fingers were when it was reaching through the trees at your head I think it meant to kill me I fully think that it meant totally to kill me I wonder what had her so irate in that particular area, you know, if it was just your presence or something else, you know, I mean, I know there's

really no way to know if it makes you wonder if there was a young one around or one she couldn't find or... Well, you know, we thought about, you know, whether there was a young one, but I don't, you know, I don't really think there was a young one. I think she was alone all this time. Yeah. We discovered that she was crippled. And we actually got prints of the crippled foot.

And she would walk on the side of the foot with the toes tucked up underneath of her. And I don't know if it was a birth defect. Maybe she got shot in the foot or maybe it was to some type of interdial, uh, uh, uh, uh, um, injury or whatever, but I know that obviously gave her pain. Yeah. And that's what we discovered. And I think that that was part of it was the fact she was crippled and possibly, you know, more afraid of us being out there than we, well, I can't say we weren't afraid of her.

But that's kind of. of what we started coming to. And also, we did go back out there. And, you know, we went out there with a full crew. And we started going back out there and putting up game cams and, you know, trying to get a picture of her. And she was in this area for a good 15 years. We would go back in there about once a month to, you know, once every couple of weeks. And she would let us know that we knew or she knew that we were there.

And sometimes, you know, she would throw something at us. She didn't have the meltdown again. Sometimes she would really get angry and she would shake the bushes, the upons, you know, and everything out there. but she didn't like real quick she didn't like us leaving anything out there and she eventually tore the tree down that we were putting so game cams on but at that time well we were kind of experimenting and my son would go out there and you know we'd go out there too but we started leaving things out there, you know, like mostly dog toys, you know.

And we discovered that she actually liked the squeaky toys. She didn't, the balls, she didn't take, you know, any of the stuff bears or animals, you know, like people say to do and everything. But what she did like, and she didn't. like the, she didn't take the shiny stones and the shiny marbles and all of that kind of, but she liked the, uh, the squeaky toys that, that, uh, made, uh, you know, the squeaky sounds. She would break them and she would bring them back and line them up, the ones that were broken and we would replace them.

And, uh, to me, that showed, you know, a good bit of intelligence. of course, you know. I don't know. I wondered if she was mentally ill. Is that pretty possible? Yeah, because my wife's people say that they do have those problems sometimes, you know. That's just kind of what we thought was that she's possibly mentally ill. I don't think she ever had a mate out there.

I don't think she ever had any young out there. She just lived in that spot. It was a good spot for her. And I guess it was easy for her to take care of herself. There was plenty to eat, you know, year round. And when we would bring people in there, she didn't like it. She kind of accepted us going in there, but sometimes she got really mad when we would come in there. I don't know, you know, how to put it, but my son would bring, you know, new people in there,

and she would just go ballistic, and so they would leave. And there were times when I would take my dog out there, I would, you know, play with him and, you know, throw a, you know, ball or, you know, he likes to play rock. That sounds a little crazy, but, you know, I would. we toss a rock and heel run, go get it, and bring it back, and stuff like that. And apparently that was very entertaining because she would sit out in the tall UPons, and she would watch this, you know, going on. And we knew she was there because occasionally we could smell her,

and also we could see her, you know, just inside the UPons. and we never really felt secure out there with her, and I would never stay out there again like that. We had kind of a rapport with her, I guess you might say on her terms, which, you know, that's the way it usually would be anyway. The oil company came out there, and they put in a road right across the trail,

and they drilled well out there. Well, that brought in a lot of backpackers because you could get there easier. That brought in a lot of hunters. And she just one day was gone. And to this day, I have no idea if she passed or if she just left because of that, which I presume she did or what it was. Yeah. But she's no longer in there.

But for 15 years, she was there. always in 15 years we saw her which she shut herself twice and that was it it's you know she could have had some you know mentally wrong like you said that if she were injured a young age like in a trap or something with her foot it could have just changed you know everything for and made her be a loner type some of the females seem to have a little bit of attitude you know the few that have been reported encountered you know it sort of it made me think about the old Bob Timberma's story from Bluff Creek, you know, where he was out. It was filmed, and he was out a little too late, decided that, you know, he didn't want to get back to his camp.

He decided just to hunker down for the night and then head back to camp at first light. So he dug a shallow hole and covered himself with kind of dozed on a night and her sniffing the air and find him. And it screamed and tore the brush up. And finally I said that it looked, it looked like a bulldozer had gone through the tent. timber. So occasionally they will throw a tantrum like that and raise holy hell. Well, I'll tell you what, if you're on the receiving end of that tantrum, it's not a good thing.

No, that meltdown that she had, it's still with us. But when I'm out there in the woods, you know, out in the forest, and sometimes, you know, I do get, like I said, butterflies and kind of feel strange. You have to look, you know, watching my back and everything. That comes back to mind. I've had nightmares about it, and it really did something to my son and I. I can't tell you how totally, totally scared.

and afraid we were. Like I said, I think that we had gone into some sort of shock because, like I said, we were sweating, but we were shivering like it was 20 below zero or something out there. You know, we, like I said, we did go back in there.

We did do this with her. I don't recommend I don't know. I mean, you know, for a lot of people, I guess that's okay. I just don't actually recommend that because if we didn't come in and, you know, replace them like she had wanted us to or whatever, we got pelted with sticks and everything, you know,

all the way back out. And I don't know. I think it's kind of akin to feeding a bear or giving a bear or something and they get used to it and they want you to continue with it and when you don't do it

or you know you mess up and don't bring anything to replace the broken with then they get quite irate with you and I think that's dangerous or you know with her that was my experience

that was my first and only experience and actually exchanging or giving anything to a Sasquatch and I'll never do it again. Yeah, you know, that's kind of, it's very similar to what Coonbo and Bear were talking about too,

you know, sort of warning against feeding them or doing things like that because then they get to expect it and when it doesn't happen, it really ticks them off. Yes, it ticks them off badly. Yeah, exactly, exactly. But I totally had no

doubt that she was going to kill me. I think she was going to pull my head right off, turn to twist it backwards or whatever. I was just going to say, that's why I got down on one knee, because, you know, I have spent a lot of time in the wild, and I have seen them, you know, from time to time,

and I have actually been blessed or whatever with seeing them hunt, and I've seen them hunt elk, and, man, they break their necks and put their antlers right into the dust, takes them right out. Yeah. I mean, I have heard them kill deer. Actually, I've heard them kill them out here.

It's very brutal. But I just didn't want to be on that receiving end. And I was really totally going to shoot her. And I'm glad that I didn't. but don't get me wrong, I would defend myself. Hey, Bob, for people that didn't hear, I believe it was last... Do I? Can you kind of describe what you saw as far as what it looked like?

I know you said it had, you know, she had breath, it was a female. Yes, it was... It sounds like you were very scared, and you were kind of like we use the expression on the menu the whole time, but can you kind of describe that for some of the people that maybe didn't tune in last week on some of the things you saw? Yeah, she had breast, of course, you know, and she had womanly parts. She was a typical black with the Chronicle Head. She walked on the side of her foot. she was extremely massive.

I would say she was at least an eight-footer, maybe, you know, seven and a half to eight foot. Had very massive legs, you know, thighs and, you know, arms and shoulders. You know, when we got to see her, you know, fully the two times, she, you know, had the wide mouth. She had very large eyes. She had a nose that was not unlike ours, but, of course, it was very large.

And it wasn't really flattened or anything. She had small ears that came close to the side to the head. And they could make out the ears then, yeah. Yeah, because she showed herself twice to us and all that time. And I actually wrote down the description of what she looked like in my journals that I keep. When you went back, I forget, I think you already stated how long it was before you went back. But when you went back, did you have intentions to stay again overnight in camp? Or were you just going back to see if she was?

God, no. God, no, no, no. I didn't think so. Actually, there had been rain. We went back looking for, specifically looking for footprints. Because you have to know that area of Texas. And it's really hard to get footprints. and in this one area, like I said,

they had at one time roads that came in there, and they iron ore from the area. And the trees had grown back up. You know, they had done some plants and stuff like that. And a little further down, there was a, what had been a quarry, I think, probably in the 20s or something. The ground is so hard because of the iron ore. And you could drive a dump truck through there,

and if you didn't know what you were looking for, you would miss it. So we went back in there because it was moist, and it dried out real fast. And we went back in there looking for tracks, and we were rewarded by finding her tracks. And actually we had camped near her track line. And that was, I think, one of our first mistakes. Our biggest mistake was that we stayed out there,

that we actually camped. Yeah. Yeah, I can't even imagine. Well, it was bad. It was a horrible experience, put it that way. I mean, you know, I had had experience. with them come out and look at me up north when I was, you know, panning for gold and things like that. I had one, you know, stand there and stare at me for nearly an hour, you know, across the creek from me.

But this was just the most horrible experience. I can't say it enough. This was the most horrible experience I think I've ever had with the squad. I think it would be right up there for anybody as probably the most horrible experience they could have. Right. Yeah, absolutely. That's why I asked the question. Just the viewers, I didn't think you went back out there to camp, but I just figured we'd clear that up.

Okay. No, as a matter of fact, I won't camp out there now, and she's not there anymore. I know she's not. I won't camp out there now. I do, when we go down that direction on the Lone Star Trail, I will go all the way up to where you come out, you pass the river. It's several miles. You pass the river. It's very lonely country.

But there's a pond out there, like a five-acre pond. And you can turn off and go into that pond and actually camp. there and then go on. And that's what I do. You know, it's a good area. And there's so many frogs that you couldn't hear a Sengarde scream if you wanted to. Yeah, I'm chicken. I'm sorry.

Oh, I'm right there with you. I would be back. I don't think I would have went back to even look for the print after that night. well I it was hard to get back in those woods believe me

it was hard but I did go loaded for bears a matter of fact I went down and I bought some bear shot

black bear shot from my shotgun because only had deer shot you know double-od buck for you know deer and I went down

and bought some bear shot and loaded it with that before I went in. And I also had my 45 with me, and everybody else was armed. I was going to war if I had to. Well, I think in that case, you know, you really, I don't think you can feel like you're armed enough, you know, after an experience like that.

No, because, I mean, they're so fast. And if it had not been for the fact that those, that line of trees had been, you know, on my right side where she was coming in at, she would have probably killed me. She probably would have killed my son. We probably would be a statistic right now, you know, disappeared. Oh, yeah, no doubt. No doubt. And I think that's the only reason why I had time to get on my knee and put that gun in her midsection.

and surprised her like that was that row of trees. And I thank God, for that row of trees. But, you know, to this day, and it's been, you know, all these years, you can go out there and you can actually see some of the trees that she downed. They're rotting now. Let me ask you this real quick. And I need to recycle questions because I'm not a big recycle. That's okay.

I asked this question on the last interview we have. I'm going to ask you now because you said that you were, you've gone out and you did some gold panning. I've done that myself. I find it relaxing. I like to do it. Have you found any, as far as like, do you think, well, how should I say this is, do you think that Sasquatch, Sasquatches travel through the waterways as far as trying to be non-detected? What are your thoughts on that?

Well, you know. I know for a fact that they do travel the waterways. I spend a lot of time up around the San Juan River and the Florida River, and they do travel those waterways. They actually get in the water and will move with it. And they do the same thing here in Texas, especially in the summertime. you will find them a lot around and in the water, especially moving water.

But I have seen them, yes, travel the San Juan River before. And I believe that they mentioned that with the old film The Legend of Bogy Creek, where they said he always travels the waterways. I don't really remember that. And here's the thing. I've got to tell you something, guys.

I didn't come out of the mountains until around 96. And everything was due to me. I mean, all the stuff from the 70s and 80s and 90s were it was like watching, yeah, it was a brand new shows, TV was brand new. I mean, I haven't, honestly, guys, I haven't had a computer more than six years. I was playing with you, man I'm sorry Oh no

I understand Hey I get it all the time Oh no I get it all the time You know I can't There's a lot of things I basically cannot do with a computer

And you know I told my kids My sons and my daughter when we got back. I mean, they just got right into it, you know. They went right into the technology, learned everything, you know, and did real well. But me, I stay.

Go ahead. I'm sorry. Let me kind of back you up here because I kind of told you out. But here's the thing. I have more respect for people that are not completely tech savvy tech savvy you just you overdid me there

that's cool you're a great guest and I think everything you say comes true and you can tell the emotion and you can tell how true you are to what you're saying I appreciate that you get some people that come in here

that repeat everything that they've read on the internet you're not that guy you're not that guy Bob well I appreciate it yeah I appreciate you say that come in here and we tell stories about things they've read on the internet. I don't appreciate that.

I appreciate you. You're doing really good. As far as, let's go back to, he's great. Let's go back to kind of the waterways thing. Okay. And I know Will, you're kind of, because it kind of intrigues me because we're in the Pacific Northwest. And Bob, I don't know if you know much about the Pacific Northwest, but we have the Puget Sound. We have the Columbia River, we have Salmon Creek.

We have all these different areas where Bigfoot has been reported. And if you take someone like Will that is from the area, I mean, he could probably sit here for hours and tell you about the different interactions that we've had with Bigfoot on the Columbia River. I know if you get down towards Carson. Oh, good Lord. Down there by Beacon Rock, what are some of the other ones? Stevenson.

Is the other one down there? Stevenson, Carson. And so you get down, and I think it's important that people realize that you get down on these river areas that that's one way, I believe, that Sasquatch slash Bigfoot can travel without being tracked. And I think that's important that people realize that. Why, I don't know. I feel it's important. I'm kind of a good way. Well, you know, Renee, the only always used to tell me to watch the waterways.

Right. If anybody knew this, he knew it. And that's from way back in the beginning of all this, when the originals were digging into this and trying to figure out what they were doing. And it's always been very good advice. Go ahead. Go ahead, Ramon. Go ahead, Ramon.

What are you saying about that? I was just going to say here in Kentucky, the reports that come in are almost all ways, either near the lake areas or the Ohio and even other small tributaries. And there's just, the pattern is that there are almost always, any, you know, reported sightings are almost always near rivers or, you know, these lakes that we have in this area. So that just goes along with what you're saying, Woody. Yeah, I think so. And, and Will we talk to you, like you're one of the first people that we've reached out to when we had our encounter.

Yeah, your encounter was pretty close to the... Yeah, you guys are pretty close to the... Yeah, you guys are pretty close to the Lewis River. Oh, right on the Lewis, 300 feet away. We can look down off the cliff and see the Lewis River. And that Lewis River, there's accounts there to go back, you know, to the 1840s that I know of. And I'm sure. As far as what?

As far as what? People seen? Yeah, I mean, and even stories, I mean, like, you know, a lot of people don't realize life with me for about King Helens. On their way there, that group of my mom. miners was hiking in along the Lewis River, and they would find tracks, and, you know, whenever they'd be, you know, taken interest in them, then it wasn't a laughing matter anymore, but they did find tracks often along that river. And there's, there are places like Yakult, for instance, the town of Yakult, and I don't remember which tribe's language, Yakult means... I believe it's work, yeah. Yonuk, yeah, Yakult means haunted valley.

and the Indians would not settle there because these creatures were known to be there and there's quite a few little creeks. And that's less than 10 miles from where we had our encounter, right? I mean, 10 miles from more north, yeah, or less, or less maybe. Exactly. Copper Creek, some of those areas, lots of activity around those places, but a lot of it, you know, the walking sighting was on the Washergul River. Was it down there in the Washergola watershed area?

Yes, it was. You know, a lot of people, that's wouldn't they have their sightings, is when they're, you know, fishing on the river are the rivers and down here. A lot of people have their sidings at night down on the lake. And down, we have several rivers that come through here. And, you know, a lot of people will fish those rivers. And they have, you know, a lot of their sidings along these rivers. That's because they do.

congregate along the rivers, and they use them for trackways. I think it's a lot more common than people realize. Yeah. Well, it's not just, you know, go ahead. No, I was going to say, Bob, and we're getting kind of short in time, guys. We have about four and a half minutes, five minutes, five minutes left. But what I wanted to say in this is Wes and I kind of have this conversation two days ago or something like that. I really don't believe that you have...

spend 15, 20 miles deep in the thick of the woods in the middle of nowhere to see a bigfoot or Sasquatch. Wes and I were just outside of the town of Battleground, and we saw one, you know. So I don't think it's a matter of like how far you can get in the woods, how deep you can get in the woods. I really feel that a Sasquatch is closer in than what we really realize. And I think if people really knew that, they would be a lot more concerned today. Yeah. I think you're more concerned about it than what they are. What are your guys' thoughts on that?

We've got about four minutes left. It kind of goes along with, you know, the thing with a lot of wild animals. You know, humans are kind of easy pickings for food because we're sloppy and we leave lots of stuff around. You know, I'm sure there's that factor also, you know, that whatever they can come in and get things easily and easy meals, whether it's a garden or animals. So that's got to be a draw, too. Well, you're totally right about that. One of the percent. Yeah, down here we have a development that's been developing for the past 40 years,

and it's just really eating up habitat. And that's one reason why we are getting so overrun in the Sam Houston National Forest. Their corridor goes into this area. But even to this day, right now, as modern as it has been, built up out there, and this is the Woodlands taxes, we still get reports from people who live close to the more wilderness areas, as well as law enforcement and security guards and construction workers who have to go in there, you know, just around daylight to start their job.

They have them actually come out of some of the big buildings. Good Lord. That's got to be a little unnerving. What a way to start your day, huh? Yeah, I know. But that's why it's filling up so much here, and that's why the past few years it has been so hot in this area or such a hot spot in this area.

And then you have the ones that have always lived there. And, you know, it's kind of, we have audio of, a big fight. And we didn't, you know, try to get up there in film or anything like that because we tried to stay away from it. But it was a hell of a vicious fight. You could tell females were fighting, males were fighting. It was pretty bad.

Good Lord. Well, we're going to have to have you back on to talk about that again sometime. Well, we're running out of time, so I guess we better wrap it up before the system. It kicks us all off here. So, Bob, thanks again for coming on. We're sure glad to have your back, or Woody, back, and we're on. Absolutely. Thanks, guys.

Thank you, you guys. Thank you. Thank you, you, and Lord for holding my seat. I appreciate it. You bet you, man. You know? I appreciate you. Very much.

Yeah. And it was nice talking to you, too, Bob. You know, you're great. And for a moment. I'm sure. I appreciate that. You guys are great, too. And I appreciate you having me on.

It's fun. Well, we sure like having you on any time, Bob. All right. Yeah, great. All right. Well, thank you, everybody. We had Bob on the phone, and next week we'll try to get Mike on the phone next week. Yeah.

Yeah, I think it's like you said, it's the one with the diet or something. Well, thanks, everyone. Join us again next week for the show, and that's it for this week. Well, good night, guys. Yeah. Good night. I appreciate you having me on. Bye-bye.

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