Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:37 Cops & Sasquatch

Episode Date: June 30, 2014

"Back in 2009 I was a sergeant over the K9 unit which consisted of five handler/dog. (location removed) is about five hours away from (location removed) and the two guys were allowed to drive home on Friday nights to spend time with their families on the weekends. They each were issued a Chevrolet Tahoe to patrol and carry each of their dogs. When they are away from (location removed), their radios don't hit the radio tower, but they can still speak to each other car to car, so long they are in close proximity to each other. One Friday night during the six week school they were driving home when the lead officer said something large and black ran towards the side of his Tahoe from the shoulder/ditch area and he thought it was gonna strike the side of the Tahoe but it suddenly cut sharply and started pacing his unit for a short distance as it ran along side him. He said it was on all fours but was no cow or horse, but was as large as one. He soon outran it, and called on the radio to the officer that was following closely behind him and asked him "what was that?!" the trailing officer replied "I don't know!" and although it was strange they didn't get a good look at it and both laughed it off. They only know for sure that it wasn't a horse or a bull. I asked them how fast they were going and the lead officer said "we were hauling ass trying to get home, 80-85 mph, it was late at night already!" this happened on a deserted stretch of highway between (location removed) and (location removed), lots of deer. Neither officer works for us anymore, but the lead officer is my best friend now and is a sergeant at a nearby agency, the other officer is now a narcotics agent for another nearby agency. "

When I had come down this hill, I had seen this creature cross the road. They would have ripped my locked door from my truck, extracted me from my vehicle, and there wouldn't have been a damn thing I could have done about it. Look, this thing I got to notice in his eyes. His eyes was real, real evil, real sinister looking. You know, the look it was giving me. What are you reporting? What's going on now, sir?

That's the son of a bitch is about six foot. Yes, I'm looking right here. Welcome to Bigfoot hotspot Radio, Sasquatch Chronicles. I'm your host, Wes, along with my brother Woody, and researcher, author, and friend, William Jeff. Let's start the show. Early on the week, I posted on the Bigfoot Hot Spot Radio fan page for listeners to send me ideas or send all of us ideas. We're kind of in the process of building a Sasquatch Chronicles website. And within the website, we want to create something new, create something fresh that hasn't been seen out there.

and I had asked a lot of the listeners on the Bigfoot Hot Spot Radio page for ideas for the website, and I got tons and tons and tons of ideas, stuff I never even thought of. So I wanted to thank everyone out there who submitted ideas for that. You can still go on there and send me ideas, but I wanted to just take a moment and kind of thank everyone for all their input, and there's a lot of things that I didn't even think about, a lot of great ideas. So I really just want to thank everyone for doing that. Our first guest tonight is Dave.

He's a long-time listener. He's been a huge fan of the show. He's been a huge asset to the show. He's always sending us comments, always sending us ideas about the show. And he's been with the show, I think, ever since the beginning. And he had recently sent me his encounter, and I invited him to the show. So I want to go and bring Dave on so we can hear his encounter. I want to thank you for coming on the show.

And I want to thank you for sending us to your encounter. Yeah, no worries. I don't think it's going to take that long. Like I said in my email. Through the events. Probably, you know, it was probably, I didn't hear any. Again, it just sounds. Yeah, no, were you the only, did you?

Which were still left here and there. And I looked at the ones around the camp and just kind of mosey around. And even went past, I'm like, yeah, I can't find any bear track. This is bizarre. One of the interesting things, well, two things. One was on top of the food out and stuff. And the way, you guys take my, you know what I mean? like it happened to be that one

anything other than that. There were no howls. I didn't hear any of this. But again, it sounded like I should smell getting to the water. Is that intelligent to say like, I'm not going to leave any sign? Make sure that I had it right and I don't root 158. The other reason that I saw it, you know, just some research in settings that have been reported.

I don't know how credible they are, but, I mean, that's my story, guys. It's not, you know, it's not something that's going to take up. Wes, you there? Yeah, I'm here. When you guys had your sighting, did you notice anything? I didn't notice the smells.

What he did notice the smells. When he jumped out of the car and got in front of the car and was on the game trail, when I told him to get back in the car, one of the first things he had said was do you smell that? And he made a comment like it smells like a wet dog. It smells. And I hadn't smelled anything, but I hadn't got out of the car either. But that was one of the things. that he had said was, hey, do you smell that?

Let me, let me. Okay. I can clarify something I'm smelt. I've heard that a lot from other people. I always wondered about maybe one. They don't excrete any kind of odor. What do you think? What are you on our encounter?

You smelled something. I remember you jumped in the car and saying you smelled something. No, and I did. Yeah, it was kind of funny because the smell that I did smell that was going to sound in high school. It's been me, though. I was like one of the very first something. And like I said, as fast as I smelled it, it was gone.

It's an interesting account, dude. It's an interesting account that you have. I mean, it could have been other things besides Sasquatch, but, you know, when you notice certain things like walking around the camp and it sounds like something's walking around the camp and, you know, little cues that you pick up on. But, you know, it's hard to say if it was Sasquatch or it could have been something else. You know what I mean?

To be honest with you guys, I'm happy. Yeah, no, it is traumatizing. Well, we appreciate you sharing it, man. Appreciate you coming on. Yeah, totally. Giving us your encounter. And thanks for listening, too. I know you've been a long-time listener.

You're always on the fan page and, you know, really... Yeah, totally, I appreciate all the love, ma'am. Yeah, you got to guys. All right, brother. You have good night. Yeah, you too. Take care. Well, I want to introduce Ramona.

Ramona's been a big part of the show. She's been kind of behind the scenes for the last few months. I know on two episodes ago, you guys heard her come on with Bob Garrett. It's kind of nice to have a female on the show. and I'm You know what's nice about having Ramona on? Woody and Will. There's too many hot dogs and I'm not

of funns on the show, so it's kind of nice to I can say that because you can come up with. Ramona are good friends, so I can say that without a few, thanks for harassment case. It's really nice to have you on Ramona.

I know I posted you up on the fan page, and there was a lot of positive feedback, so we're excited to have you on. So what do you got for us tonight? One of the show of listeners sent in a written report of his family's encounter

from back in 1977. It happened in Sussex County in New Jersey, and it was on a family harm. I just thought I'd read the basic account for the listeners, and then we had some discussions. This was printed actually

back in 1977 in the New Jersey Herald. The headline was Wantage Family and Terror of Auditius. creature for a week. This goes on to say that the police think was probably a hungry bear that terrorized the family last week. The members of the family who were less than

than 25 feet away from it say it was something else. They say it was seven feet tall covered with hair and had a beard, mustache, and walked on its hind feet. Now, Barbara Sight, mother of the children, said she heard no commotion that Tuesday night. When she went out the next morning to let the dairy herd into the pasture, the cows seemed reluctant. She heard a sound in the distance that she

described like a woman screaming while she was being killed. So she walked around the barn, she found a solid wooden garage door torn from its heavy hinges. Inside, she said, she found sick to the family's pet rabbits, the dead or dying of horrible wounds.

Two of the rabbits were missing, she said. The others' heads or legs were cloned from their body and not appear to have been used for food, the amount of killing and mutilation, Richard Sites said. There was little evidence of blood. There were hardly any marks on two of them, Sites said. They just looked like someone squeezed them to death.

So on Thursday night, Mrs. Sites said the mother's family heard the dog barking approximately 9.30 p.m. She was looking out the window at the large farmhouse. She and her 16-year-old daughter saw something standing alongside the road near where the rabbits were pined. It goes on to say that some of the family and friends ran out. First they saw a big shadow. His head was as high as the ease on the house. And then when the daughter screams, it took off. On that Friday night, the same family said they were waiting for the visitor to come back.

And several members of the family positioned themselves in the farmyard, armed shot Dungeon Rifles. And about that same time the night before it had appeared. And it appeared silently. the same place under the lamp, which lit up the farm yard. The family, they just were basically armed with all sorts of weapons from a 4-10 shotgun to 12-gauge, 22-caliber rifles, and as the family opened up fire on him, the monster ran into the coop. It emerged out the back window with his hands up, like running toward the family.

And one of the men said he thought that the monster was coming at him. and the sites were actually reluctant to discuss the event, so they didn't want to turn their farm into a side post, basically. The episode finally got out. And then the next thing they knew, good talk to reporters because the state, they stated that the state police aren't doing anything about it, and they were scared.

Yeah. Mrs. Bites said that she actually had to send her children off to stay with her mother in Sussex, but they were home back at home. And basically what amazed me about the story was that when the state police and the Division of Fish and Games released a joint statement later, they concluded that whatever killed the eight rabbits on the farm was definitely an unidentified wooded animal. But then they kept going back to the fact that it had to be a bear. Even though the family faded over and over that this thing was seven feet tall, they called it a hare monster with glowing red eyes. there was no way that it was a bear. I mean, they stated this over and over.

And finally, even on the next report, when they came back, they still stuck, the officials stuck to the fact that it had to be a raccoon or a wild dog, and the family was just mistaken. And it just seemed like no matter how many times the family, you know, tried to say otherwise they were just adamant that there was just no way that it could have just what the family describes. So you imagine 1997 when Bigfoot, you know, It wasn't something that people talked about a lot.

I imagine the family did feel pretty intimidated. I'm really glad that you read that encounter, Ramona. I got the email from this guy, and I asked, he was telling me, hey, I really want to tell you about my family's encounter. And I said, go ahead and tell me the encounter. And he sent me the link to that and said, this is what happened to our family. So I'm hoping to get this guy on the show, but I'm really glad that you read that story. I mean, that's a creepy story.

It is, and it's a shame when you've got, we're talking about, I think back here somewhere seven to eight people all standing around telling, you know, the police what they had seen, describing it in fine detail, calling it things like Hair Monster and describing that from looking from 25 feet away that it was as tall as the ease on the house and stating over and over that it was on two feet that there was just no way these people were going to believe them. And I cannot imagine having to deal with that knowing that you had to send your kids away for an entire week until after the gunfire didn't come back. Or at least there's no report of it being seen after that. That just really stuck out to me. I can't imagine. I know how things are today, but even back then, if you felt like there was no one that was going to listen to you, you would just almost have to give up and just hope to God it never did come back. And we have to remember, too, back then.

Yeah, that's... Sometimes it's kind of changed now to where people are coming. I'm looking at one line here where the policemen said it had to be a marauding bear. So... Yeah, it didn't fit in a new frame of reference, so that's what it had to be, you know? Yeah, yeah, and think about it. A bear that strangles the rabbit. It didn't eat them.

It left their bodies there, even just a couple of arms and heads were missing, but they were all, you know, for all the killing, there was a large lack of blood. Yeah, you know. Those kind of details back then they wouldn't have cared about. Not even in the, and that's where their attention was. Even though the woman said that they didn't even want to give these interviews, they gave two interviews to the pay for theirs. And they didn't even want to, but because the police weren't doing anything,

she felt like they had to. You know, that's crazy. I'll be glad when the guy comes on and gets the encounter in more detail. I can't imagine what they must have felt like back then. I guess the thing that I was a little bit confused about what you said, You said that as far as the rabbits, it looked like they were just kind of torn apart. Basically, it had ripped a large wooden door off the garage, and somehow she slept through that, the whole family did.

When it got into the cases, it literally had pulled some of their heads off. Some legs and arms were missing, but several of them were just laying there without any blood, really, but their bodies were literally squeezed until they died. But I just thought since we were going to have some law enforcement on, tonight that we could play that 911 call, basically in its entirety from the intro of our show. Good call on that, remote, since we've got the cops coming on. Can you imagine calling that 911 operator with a real emergency? Thinking about bringing the policeman on tonight, I was thinking,

can you imagine being the officer that got that call and not knowing what you're picking a walk into? I think I might take my time getting there if that's what you're getting. Yeah Exactly It takes a long way My crew might have a blow out on the way Yeah no kidding

I know they're I know they're coming on later But I decided to have on tonight Since they are coming on You know a lot of them probably get caught If they get called like that They probably not Why do I have to go on something like this

Yeah Yeah no doubt Before I bring on the next guest I just wanted to Everybody to keep something in mind I think Will and I've talked about this before but sometimes you run across these places with these ominous sounding names, different, you know, regions around the country, you know, crazy names like Devil's Peak, Devil's Ben, Cold Valley.

Sometimes you wonder where those names come from, and they've been there for years. You know, nobody really knows. It's just always, as long as they've existed, that area has been called that particular name. and I just want to keep that in mind as we bring on the next listener. Indian tribe name for certain areas. Yeah, and sometimes names are a little less ominous-sounding, but they still end up making you wonder later when you hear a cluster of maybe fast-lots reports in that area.

I mentioned that, you know, several times, and he called me one time and he says, hey, do you know what, Yakult, the Indians here say, so even the name like Haunted Valley could, you know, can actually be related to this. The next guest, his area isn't as ominous sounding, but it's still pretty interesting. So with that, I just wanted to welcome James Becker. He's from Ohio. He's written a show about several encounters he's had through the years, from his childhood,

all the way to early adulthood. It was on the same 10-mile radius. Tonight, we're just going to talk about a couple of those encounters. Hi-huh. Hey, how are you doing? I'm very good. How are you? I'm doing great.

I'm here with West and Will and Woody. Oh, hi. Hey, guys. Hey, Jim. I apologize, guys. I'm going to step outside. I have a weak signal inside the house. Give me just three seconds here.

That's not probably. Yeah, I've got an old sucker house that won't let signals come in and come outside. Ready to go. We want to thank you for being on the show tonight. Really appreciate it. Sure. I'm actually excited to be here. I've been dying to tell people, and it's just finally hearing the right radio and the right commentary to make me feel relaxed enough.

More or less just talk about my experience, you know, and it's just, I wouldn't do it for anybody, so I really appreciate you guys having, you know, just your, you know, makes you cancer and not having, you know, any judgment towards anybody. So it just kind of makes things a lot easier to do, so. Oh, I appreciate the kind word. Yeah. Yeah. Problem. I gave a little bit of a tease into the first story that you were going to talk about tonight. Okay.

As far as fishing trips, so I thought if you want, I'd just kind of let you kind of tell us the story. And then if anybody has any questions, we'll kind of give them to you as they come. How about that? Oh, okay. Well, growing up younger, we have property was not too far away from a great swimming hole, fishing, camping, everything. It was where two creeks met together. And actually when it formed, it actually cut out a big swath in the ground. It was called Monkey's Island.

I mean, it's a pretty good decent size. And you had the park on the bridge, which is a country road, which, you know, it's a state route road, and you had to walk, you know, through the cornfield on one side or through the bean field on the other side just to get packed into it. And there was a lot of ropes and such from the trees. Everybody just swam and either camped or fished. I mean, because this is a large. One night, we all wanted to go fishing, and, you know, at nighttime, it's pretty dead in here. Not too many people can't because it's so just really close. You're not super secluded, but, you know, the nearest farm is probably at least a half a mile down the road.

We set up on the bank, and when we fish, we don't fish with flights. We don't fish with lanterns. We don't, you know, mosquitoes are so bad in some areas. And it's just, you know, it's quiet. So anyway, we're sitting there fishing, and there's at least in how. hour, at least an hour it goes by. As we're sitting there, I'm starting to get this nice bite. And, you know, and I would say, you know, through my own course, I'm a make, and I was getting the bite, or he would say to me, I got a nibble or something. It's just nothing big.

Well, this thing was tugging, and I figured, well, it's going to be a turtle. Just the way it was hitting. I want to set this hook really good, and she tugged really hard. I jerk back super hard. And when I do, basically, I'm sitting like Indian style. And when I do my kick my feet out, I take everything back, I lean back, you know, and I do the big hook and, you know, push up, it's the one-type move. And when I do it, it just makes all kinds of buckets. Now, again, we're sitting in the dark. If you wouldn't know we were there, which, you know, if you were 20 feet away, you wouldn't know we were there because we'd whisper and we'd talk real soft. And just as I do that, not but I would say 30, 40 feet behind us is these large trees.

and the first branch that would come off of it would be at least 20 feet off the ground. And, you know, it's a pretty big ground, large-sized tree. As I do that, you hear a quick from the tree, and then all of a sudden this largest thud on the ground, and when this stud hits the ground, not only a thud, it's like someone lost all their air, like a really heavy, you know, this is all during the motion, and that my legs kick out. I reached back for the, you know, the jaw for the fish.

And all of a sudden it's just boom on the ground behind it. And it wasn't a boom. It was a shockway. I mean, we felt it through the ground. I mean, it wasn't, you know what I mean? It was like somebody dropped the border behind it. And when that sun hit, you heard a quick ruckus or something. I mean, because again, no lights, we, you know, we didn't fish with landings.

We didn't fish the flashlight. We just walked back in the daylight and walked back out. We've known the pads. And this thing gets. up and doesn't do any growling, doesn't do any running after that, both through the trees, through the brush, and then he jumps. You can hear the jump. You can hear the planting of the foot and jumping the crick this back there.

It's a good 10, 15 foot wide creek, and that's what we call cricks here. And you got your river, so the beach you met, you know, it made a huge hole. This thing jumped, and you hear it jump, because the creek actually runs along the behind this area running along. the cornfield. So, you know, there's no more tree line. And it's an extent and maybe a couple trees, but the more of the trees, you know,

the shrubbery goes on the other side. So it jumps, and you can hear it jump and boom. At this time, though, I mean, this is all, like, really fast. It was like, boom in the ground, what the heck, you know, ooh, really loud. And then it's thump, thump, like it's running away. Two feet now, scared out of it. I mean, it's, I don't know.

I never understood the class one, class two, class A, class, you know, but to me as a class two, because, I mean, it was a bumper. I mean, it was, you know, I definitely changed my shorts or just, you know, got to the car. I mean, it was scary. I mean, it really wasn't scary because to me, I was thinking creature, animal, bear, whatever. I mean, we do have bear, but not, you know, it's, when we see a bear, it's televised. It's, hey, we've got a bear. Yeah. It's not like every day it's a, you know, a bear over here.

There's probably like a bunch of cats over there or what running. You never heard anything actually climb the tree while you're sitting on the bank. No. No, and that's, you know, it's a good question because as we're setting there, fish. I mean, you know, nothing. I mean, we would hear, you know, raccoon chatter or, you know, in the distance. You know, in a case with a car would come driving by, And, again, you know, the car, the road was still a good distance.

Almost 100 yards away. But, you know, it's a country well-troped this monkey's island is everybody knows about it. I mean, there's important times where on the weekend you just didn't want to go there because it was completely booked. After that happened, what did you all do? I mean, was everybody with you as afraid as you were? I mean, how did they react? Well, my uncle, I'm not going to say anything about, I guess he was. scared. I mean, he was scared.

So other than that that grunt, though, you really, you never heard another sound as far as a bunch of... No, no. Just a running away. And it was, you know, just like I've heard many people. It's like, yeah, I heard that. I mean, I know exactly what you're experiencing when that... Don't run the way.

It's not, you're just hearing it. You're feeling it. I mean, it's just a... I mean, it's... I mean, I've been to... I've been to services, and, you know, I've a couple of orphans to raise up and thought down, it's just like, it's not even close. I mean, you know, the heaviness of the run.

You know, it's one of those things that we just talked to the other guys. It's one of those things that just kind of makes you, you know, scratch your head and wonder. I mean, I know you didn't see it, so, you know, you can't positively, I did, but that doesn't lead a lot of room for the two things to do then, so.

I was going to just make kind of a lot of your other senses. You know, just because someone didn't, you have a visual on something, sometimes, um, make you be able to see something even though we're going to be yet because of that. Because that's why we have so many other senses. And I think it's crazy that, I mean, I don't know why that particular area had the name Monkey's Island, but I think that's so cool.

You're right. Because that's that's exactly it. Because after that, it's like, I know why they call it Monkey's Island now. You know, if there's anybody that's asking you at any type of experience, it's not called Monke's Island because there's a bunch of ropes and people swinging off of them. I swear it because it's because there's pretty. You know, it's just like, okay, where did this name come from? I mean, because, you know, that's 40 years ago.

I mean, is anybody in any local histories on that area to know, maybe no. Okay, there is been, now within the courts, and it's related to the Indians. And just over, I can imagine it, you know, without really researching it, I can imagine there's something behind that story. And, I mean, it just intrigues me now even further. How did I get it out? I want to know why. I wanted to tell this story to people that really know, you know, they understand, yeah.

You know, we know what you're doing. We know what you're going through type thing, you know. I have, I mean, I crap myself when I hear your guys' this story. I play your guys' this story over and over. And to this day, it's still like, oh, you know, I wouldn't know what I would do, you know, I mean, from behind. Just, you know, it's a great, great dictation of everything. Well, we appreciate it, man.

We appreciate it coming on. We appreciate you, Sharon. Hey, thanks, guys. And, again, for being a fan of, Will, I mean, you guys, is Woody, you're just on. I appreciate it. I really appreciate you talking to you. It was wonderful. Well, thank you.

Thank you so much. All right. Well, you guys have a great night. I know. Exactly. Thanks for doing the interview room, Anna. Nice work on that. Yeah.

You're welcome. Next on the show we have Aaron, and Aaron had an encounter when he was. as a kid. It kind of reminded me of last week's encounter, but I wanted to go and bring Aaron on. Hey, Aaron. It's Wes. How are you, bud? Good. How are you doing, man? Doing good. Doing good. Yeah, thanks for coming on the show, ma'am. Well, it happened back in the early 90s. I must have been like about 10 years old right around there, 20 years ago. A little bit of backstory. My father did electrical work on the side back in the day,

and he had a friend that was moving to New Hampshire and building a house. So him and another friend who was a plumber decided they would go up with him a week and drag along their kids. And they drag us all up to southern New Hampshire, a small town called Key, New Hampshire. I believe it's like a college town, but this was on the outskirts of the town. So we make our way up there. They have a pretty large piece of property. And in the back, less corner of the property in the woods is where they, right on the edge of the tree. lying near the woods. They had

sort of like a party tent. And this party tent is where the person was moving into the house kept all of their items. You know, their refrigerators in there, their furniture. There's one of those tents that peeked up the roof and then it has walls on the side. And then the walls have

clear windows on them. One morning, 7 and 8 o'clock, me and two other boys are up there, the sons of the summer that came with life. I'm playing in the car, playing, you know, cops and robbers. We were speeding away from the cops and the pretending playing around. And I happen to look up at that tent off in the distance,

about 100 yards from where I am, a giant creature bent over looking into the tent through one of the windows. I just remember being scared stiff. I couldn't move for the life for me. Yeah, and I stared at it. It felt like I started out. You know, probably only seconds. My friends didn't even realize that I wasn't playing anymore.

And I was just, the kid in the driver's seat at the car, he started honking the horn, you know, playing around, and I just looked away for one brief second and grabbed his arm to make him stop. All the creatures stand up and it was gone. Stand up when he started honking the horn, and that's why I grabbed him. When it stood up, it scared the living crap out of me.

It was huge. Generally about it. I asked them if they saw anything. They looked at me puzzled. They had no idea. It was just me to saw it. So, you know, after they looked at me, you know, like, what are you talking about?

I ran inside, told my dad, he was a matter of fact guy and he was like hey listen go sit down and have some breakfast and see anything no no pretty much no one acknowledged it till later on when i talked to my grandfather um he wasn't there he had not really an experience but a neighbor who did so he kind of believes me i would say months not even a month after and he kind of he treated you a little differently than your your father did originally yeah yeah he told me you know his family family, his neighbor's family, had a sighting. They shot at a Sasquatch, and he helped comb the woods to see whether or not they hit it,

if they found any blood or anything like that. They didn't find anything. But I remember him specifically saying that the family was just scared like he'd never seen before in his life. So he believed that something was out there. I know you were a little kid when he saw it, but was it just a, can you describe kind of what you saw? Was it just a huge... It was the way that the sun was hitting, I didn't. didn't get any colors, really.

It was very dark where he was, where it was. But I do remember when it stood up next to this white tent. I would say about the neck came to wear the tent down and then turned into a wall. So I figured that's about seven feet. And then it was still its head was about a little bit above that. Well, what was going through your head when he saw it? What did you think? You know, it was just like, oh, crap, oh, crap, what is this?

Yeah. That was really about it. It's just scared to death. Yeah, that's a crazy encounter. It's usually, I know that's what my reaction was, you know, and I wasn't a little kid. I was thinking the same thing. Yeah, I think it's pretty universal, oh, crap. Yeah.

Did it change you at all after seeing it? I mean, did it kind of change? Yeah, you know, I grew up, my parents owned 20 acres of property, so I grew up playing out in the woods. It was just me and I had a sister, no neighbors around, so it was just me. every day on my own out in the woods playing around. But after that, you know, I was pretty good during the day, but when nighttime came, I didn't like to go camping at night, anything anymore. You know, now I live, I don't know, about a half hour, kind of gotten away from that a little bit.

Yeah. During the day, I never had a problem, but in nighttime, no way. Even when it's dusk, I'm heading out of the woods. Have you spoke to your dad since, I mean, since becoming an adult, You ever spoke to him about the encounter? Did you ever talk about anything else that happened on the property? Not really. I've talked to my mom a little bit, and she's just sort of like, okay, whatever.

Whatever you say, fine, that's fine. But my dad and I, I don't think we really have that kind of relationship these days. He's still a really matter of fact. You know, I've talked to my wife about it, and I think she believes me, and she understands a bit. But so I think a lot of people, you know, I think a lot of people, people, especially I guess a lot of people in my life, find it hard to believe things that they haven't seen themselves. You kind of sticks with you, doesn't it?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, you know, at 10 years old you don't remember much. I think when I was 13, I went to Disney World. I don't remember any of it. But that house where I saw that sighting, that property, I remember every inch of that place. You know, I only went there one time in my life, but for some reason it's just ingrained in my memory. Well, we can't thank you enough for sharing it, Erin. I was fascinated when I read it when he had emailed me your encounter. I thought it was a really cool encounter, and, you know,

I was really, really, really fascinated by it, so I really do appreciate coming on and sharing it with us. You're not processing. It's just like to hear someone that believes me and, you know, understands where I'm coming from. Yeah, no, I can just imagine what you saw and the shock and it kind of hurts when you tell, you know, you tell the loved ones what you saw, and then they They don't believe you, you know, especially being a kid. But I can imagine it would stick with you your whole life, you know, after what you saw. And I believe you. I mean, I was fascinated by the encounter.

Thank you. Yeah, you know, I guess it's kind of a huge part of my life. But I still question whether or not I really saw it. And I guess they always will. Yeah, you always will. Yeah, I don't think that ever stops. Well, thank you, man. Thank you for coming on.

And thank you for sharing your encounter. And thanks for listening to, by the way. Really do appreciate it. You do appreciate it. Thank you, you know, you have the best show out there, hands down. Oh, thank you so much. No problem. All right, guys.

We'll have a good night. All right, you too. That was short but sweet, but I thought it was a cool encounter. It reminded me of mine. I was a really young age, and oh, my God, I forget. I can still smell the smell of the water and the flowers near that creek. And mine wasn't traumatic like that. you know, mine wasn't close up at all.

We'll have to have you tell your encounter next week, Ramona. Yeah, I've thought about how to do that. Well, yeah, we'll talk about that. Definitely. We won't go roast here over the grill or anything. You know, we'll just make it nice and easy. Now, witty night, though. You guys are ample compared to me and you're a bunch of predators.

You know one thing? On a serious note, you guys, and I know that it's the last conversation yourself. And it's nice to have. one thing. Yeah, you're right on the money of each other. Let me be on the show and tell my story and you know, and believe it in me.

Well, you know what? Thank you. I get equal satisfaction. Our final guest for the night is a police officer and we'll leave the location out of the out of the conversation to kind of protect his identity.

But I wanted to bring on, we have two police officers that we want to bring on that want to discuss the encounters that they had when they were out on duty. So, and welcome to the show, Pete, and I want to welcome to the show, Lewis. Hey, Pete, it's Wes. It's Wes. How are you?

Good. How are you? Doing good. Doing good. Thanks for coming on. Hey, is this Lewis? Uh-huh. Hey, Louis, sir. This is Wes. I have Pete online with us. Okay. Yeah, how's it going? Good. How are you guys? Oh, pretty good, man.

So what I thought we do is we'll have, we'll interview you guys, and then we'll ask questions if we go. That's okay with you, fellas. Okay, sounds good to me. Sure. Okay, well, let's just go ahead and... Basically, we live in West Texas. We're born and raised here in the Odessa Midland area, which is between half of Dallas and El Paso,

the enforcement of touring for years. And back in 2009 in August, I was the sergeant or the camp. And at the time, we had five handlers and five dogs, and we had two new handlers come onto the teams. Now, when we get these new handlers, we had to send them to send them to send them. Antonio, which is about five hours away to be certified, these two new guys, they weren't new officers. They were new to the canine unit, but they both were experienced officers.

They were field training officers. They were former SWAT members, and they had between five and seven years experience. They would be in San Antonio Monday, and they'd be able to come home on the weekend. Our agency had issued them Chevy Tahos with the back seat removed and replaced with a dog kennel so they could transport their dogs back and forth. one Friday night, they were coming back, and there's a stretch of state highway between Ozona and Big Lake, Texas. That's about 39 miles long. I'll let Lewis tell you what it felt.

And like Pete said, we were Big Lake in the station, and you've got to go through another little intersection before you get to the road to Big Lake. Behind me, we were probably going about running straight. I thought it was going to hit my car, and then it turned along for maybe about 100, 150,000. feet alongside the car. And then it just turned back and went back into the, back towards the bar ditch. There was some trees there when we were past the trees. He immediately got on the radio and asked me, you know, what was that?

And, of course, I didn't look to see what it was. You know, the hairs on the back of my neck stood up and eerie feeling and stopping to see what it was. we just, I could definitely tell it wasn't a horse, like, I could see the figure, it was just like, like it was about level with my window, five feet, but it was just like a ball, like a black ball. You know, I told the guy behind me, I said, I know it wasn't a horse or anything because I couldn't see, it didn't look like the figure of a horse or a bull or a cow or anything like that that that'd be out in the past year, you know, it was definitely something else.

And it was matching your speed of the car. Yes, yeah. alongside 150 feet and then it turned back. Yeah, yeah. You know, we had to another. He, uh, I didn't really think about it until after I talked to Pete, then we kind of talked about it and we were, you know, came to the conclusion that maybe it was. Did your headlights hit it as you were, it was coming head on with you, you said?

It was coming from the side. It was coming from my right side. I was driving north and it came, I picked it up out of the corner of my eye, but I didn't go head on with it. He came from the side. It came from the side. It came so quick I thought I was going to hit the side of my car, and I just kind of braced, and then it turned up and ran alongside the car.

Was it running on fours or was it running on two? It looked like it was running on four. Jesus, and it was as tall as your Tahoe when she was. It was about, yeah, I would say about four feet. About the window. I could see the window where the figure was, where it turned up alongside the Tahoe. It was a, I would say.

Yeah, it was. The guy behind me actually saw, you know, he kind of... What's the landscape out there, guys? It's pretty flat. There's some hills. Flat, you can see a long way. Miscuit bushes. There's some trees here and there, but, I mean, the mesquite bushes, yeah.

There's a lot of deer out there, and there's some water, but it's mostly... We're considered there. The one thing Lewis told me, he said, this thing didn't have a nassie. on it like you would expect to see on a horse and it didn't have an elongated head like on a cow or a horse he said basically he said it didn't have a neck the way he described it to me he said it was kind of just a mass and I guess that's what freaked them out because the other guy Brandon doesn't like to talk about it's about the size of your Tahoe running at the same speed as you're driving I can imagine Jesus Just out of curiosity, what's the speed limit out there? I'm just joking.

75. I think I was only doing five over. Sir, I paced you at 80 miles an hour. That's where I was going with it. I was going to bust your chops. You know, we talked with Kumbow about the type 2s. It's going to hit me, you know, I just like, and I didn't look because it's kind of like, you're in the, it was dark, and I just got that real, real, eerie feeling, like,

the hair on the back of my neck stood up, and I'm like, I'm not going to even look to see what that is, you know. You just kept going. Yeah. I'm pretty sure something that big and that fast. Having that incident, did it kind of change? I mean, what do you think it was? I mean, do you think it was a Sasquatch? I mean, what do you think it was?

You know, after thinking about it and after talking to Pete, and, you know, we actually live where Pete's at, There's a little exciting out there, you know, run off. Because, like you said, I didn't see a neck. Or a deer, some trees. But they see, even if it's not a lot of detail. So you know what. It was something as big as my car.

Yeah. I was like, talk to people about it, you know, and maybe it's bad. But, you know, they're not more into it. And, you know, Pete's more knowledgeable. And, I mean, he doesn't. He senses and sees that. So, you know, he's probably late. and turned or whatever, you know.

Well, it certainly makes you wonder, you know, I mean, they've been known to pace. Well, you know, they're known to throw off wars. Yeah, absolutely. And you don't hear of many creatures running out. It's one thing for one to run out toward a vehicle, but then to continue pacing the vehicle. You know, I don't know any animals that would do that. It would be seen. I know you're on duty, and I don't want to hold you up on being on duty,

but thank you so much for coming on. We lost Pete. We told Pete, I apologize to him for losing it. I tried calling him back, but I couldn't get him on the line. But we, yeah, we apologize for me. And, uh, well, I was going to say, you know, officer, the posted speed limit is 75 out there. So let's try and keep it, you know. Going away from a SaaS bar.

Absolutely. It's just to avoid an underwear-changing moment, so. No, thank you so much for coming on. We really do. Well, I appreciate the opportunity. Thanks. Yeah, thank you. Absolutely.

Yeah, I've been waiting on the story. Thank you for letting me come on here. All right, Liz. You have yourself good night, buddy. Oh, you too. Thanks a lot. That was a good encounter, man. I've been waiting on once to hear that story.

Can you imagine driving down to your destination and have something that big? I don't even know how to keep it on the road. You hit the gas and hope you can go fast. Yeah, I can't even imagine. And imagine if another car had been coming and had witnessed that, you know, if I witnessed that. Or what would have happened had to stop? Yeah. You wonder what the guy behind him saw.

Yeah, and he must have seen more with his headlights. Yeah. He probably did, yeah. And I can't even imagine, you know, what. That kind of goes along with, though, what we hear out of the, you know, like you mentioned, the type two, you know, kind of more aggressive behaviors. Yeah, it was probably, I mean, like, you know, most, you know, with the Great Apes, they do the display, you know, maybe the car. Yeah.

Yeah. I enjoyed busting a copse chops without any recourse. That was fine. Yeah. It was a great account, though. Yeah, it was an awesome account. You don't hear a whole lot of accounts where people. I used to own a car.

And you set up pretty high in a Tahoe. And for the thing, he basically eye to eye with him as he's running as he's going along. I mean, that thing had to have been huge. No wonder, you didn't look to the side. I wouldn't have either. No way. I would have tried to look over at that. Nope.

That thing was probably eight, nine feet tall if it stood up, you know, in two legs. Had that been. Had that been. To be bent over a fight. Well, we want to thank everybody for joining us. And we'll see you guys next week. Across the country faster than the coronavirus and wagering week is your antidote. I'm Tom Barton and I'm a veteran sports analyst and respected sports handicapper who will help build ESPN's brand.

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