Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:387 Native American Culture

Episode Date: December 8, 2017

Dallas returns to the show to share what happen to him when he returned to his families property and how he ran into the dirty old man for the last time. Dallas will also be sharing his Native American culture and how he believes that Sasquatch is not the nephilim. This should be an interesting show as Dallas shares what Native Americans use to chant around a fire and where they came from. I ask that everyone give the show and Dallas a chance as it will be a fascinating conversation you will not forget. We will be discussing Sasquatch, giants and some Native American culture.

Black thing go from left to right, and I thought, I'm going to die out here and no one's ever going to know. I couldn't believe what my eyeballs was showing me. I'll never forget how evil the eyes were. It was horrible. I mean, I've never seen nothing that evil. It ran towards me at a rate that I can't even explain, turned and stared at me. And this look of, I just want to kill you. I want to say it was human, but it wasn't.

He was yelling at me to grab a gun, grab a gun. I was like, for what? He said, just grab a gun. And there's footprints all the way to the door of my house. It had went inside my garage all the way to the door. 9-1-1. What are you reporting? Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about 6'9. I don't know.

Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right at him. Uh-oh. You're listening to Sasquatch Chronicles. Check us out online at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. If you've had an encounter, email me. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. Welcome to the show, everyone.

Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show planned for you tonight. Going to be bringing back Dallas. And I had Dallas on last week. You guys probably remember that episode where he was talking about seeing the dirty old man. And where we left the last show off, Dallas said he had returned to the location. And so I wanted to invite him back. I really enjoy talking to Dallas.

I love listening to him and hearing his thoughts and ideas. And so he was willing to come back. Tonight we're going to talk about him going back to that location. And it's going to be a little bit different of a show. We're going to be talking about Native American culture. And some of the stuff we're talking about, you may know, you may not know. But I found the whole conversation fascinating. Where did the Native Americans come from?

We go into Giants a little bit, and we'll be mainly focusing on Bigfoot tonight. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. If you get a chance, check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com. You can become a member, get additional shows, and help support the show. Either way, I really appreciate you guys being here tonight. Let's jump into it. Dallas, thanks for coming back.

Thank you, West. Glad to be back. Yeah, no, I'm happy to have you back. And I know you had, we last ended the show and you said, hey, I had more encounters or I knew it was Sasquatch when I went back many years later. If you would for the audience, could you kind of walk into that? Okay. When I was, originally when I first saw the Sasquatch, I was a, you know, 12-year-old kid. this is in the mid-70s.

We own some property up in East Texas just south of the Oklahoma border. And there's a lot of fast watch activity up there now. But when I was a kid growing up, it wasn't that much, it wasn't that many reports, but I did see one twice when I was a kid. and after after my stepfather passed away I had to go back to East Texas to get some records from the county courthouse

and while I was down I went back to the property and I drove you know drove over over to where the old home was and everything it's all pretty much grown up but when I was a kid my father used to

hide money in the trees. He didn't believe in banks. So he used to hide money in the trees. And a lot of times he'd forget where the trees work. So he'd take me with him out in the woods and say, okay, remember what his tree is, is where I left the money. You know, so he would, you know, like find a tree to have a knot in it or, you know, a blend that's been chopped off and he'd hollow out the center of it

and stuff some money off in it. So also he had some papers and stuff down there too. So while I was there, I said, let me go back over here and, you know, just to see those old trees are still there. Well, where the trees were is in the area where I saw the Bigfoot the first time. So I went back over there. This was about, let's see, five, ten, maybe. maybe um maybe 15 years later and when i got there i went back to the area i'm saying to myself you know it's like hitting lightning twice for me to actually see this thing again but i'm

going to go back over here it was probably at you know um you probably moved on or gone somewhere else and but i you know i had moved on with my life and growing up and uh but i said i'm go back over here anyway because I just wanted to see if that tree was still there to my father used to hide that money in. So I just wanted to go back over to see it. I went over there and I left my family. They were back at the truck. I walked over. My brother and I, we split up. He went one way. I went to another way. When I got where I was going, that smell hit me again. I knew it was the same smell. because you don't forget the same, you don't forget that odor.

It's an odor that's so pungent. You'll never forget. Once you smell it, you'll never forget it. I don't care if you're 100 years old. You'll never forget that smell. I got there, and I said, uh-oh, there's that damn odor again. So I can smell it because, see, when I first encountered him, I thought it was the cows.

You know, we had a whole bunch of cows around the area. Well, there weren't no cows this time. And I went over to over the property, and that smell hit me again. And so I said, well, it ain't no cows or nothing around here. Ain't no horses. It ain't no, you know, everything's kind of grown up. It's been a while since I've been over there.

And sure enough, I could hear some foot stomping walking through the woods. And I knew it was the same one. Well, may that be the same one, but whatever, he smelled just like. the one I had smelled 15, 16 years earlier. That same smell. You can, you know, some people have an odor that never change it. This was the exact same smell.

And I heard these, you know, footsteps going through the, going through the brush, because it had grown up and everything. So I froze. And I just kind of just was looking straight. And then I was kind of using my peripheral vision to look left and right because I didn't know where he was. But I can hear him walking. All of a sudden, the steps started getting further and further away from me. And I kind of relaxed.

And I started backing up. I started backing up. This is about 92, 93, somewhere around there, 1999, 93. So I started backing up. And I don't know if he could tell that my brother was close or my family. was, you know, somewhere not too far away from him, but he didn't get that close to me, but I could hear the steps. Now, the reason why I know it wasn't, you know, some man is because our property was about 200 acres.

Nobody comes on anybody else's property down there. Not at that point, not at that point, because there had been some boundaries put up since I was a kid. We had put up some fences, some Bob war fences, and it was posted everywhere, keep out, don't come on this property. Usually once that happens, nobody in their right mind is going to come on somebody else's property, especially when the posted signs are all up. So I knew wasn't nobody walking over there. Now, I had my gun with me, of course. I always carried a pump shotgun.

So I had my shotgun with me. but the things the footsteps were when a regular person steps is one two three four okay when this thing step it was one two three and they weren't you could tell they weren't close together they they sounded like they were about you know four and a half five foot in distance from one step to the next step all right so I knew it wasn't a man, but I knew that anyway because our property, we had it fenced off and everything with the barbed

our fence. Nobody ever came on our property. Nobody. I knew it wasn't, I knew it wasn't a man because they knew that whenever we're down there, we have to drive off the main road there's an old farm road, then there's a dirt road. Then you drive off the dirt,

no, there's a farm road, then there's a blacktop road, then there's a dirt road. When you drive off, when you hit the dirt road, you're way off about 15 miles off into the woods that's where that's where our property was it was way off the main the main road there was no reason for somebody to you know come 15 miles off the main road off into somebody else's property to look you know to look for anything it was i mean we're talking 15 miles so when we when i got there i'm like there's no there's no way any human being could be out here with me other than my family and i know where they are

They're back up, you know, near the main house. So I'm over the hill. I'm over the hill by myself. I didn't think, you know, that anything would be there, but that thing was still there. Now, I personally feel that it knew who I was. It remembered me. If it was the same guy, it knows exactly who I was, and it probably had my sense. But this thing smelled exactly the way the first one did when I was a kid.

and it was the footsteps were too wide and heavy for it to be a man. They sounded just like it did when I was a kid and the thing took off running. It was, you know, boom, don't, doom, doom, doom, boom. Well, these footsteps, you know, it's kind of like that Jurassic Park movie, those impact tremors. You could feel the things stepping through the woods. You could feel it. You not only hear it, you could feel it. So I heard it stepping, but thank the Lord, they were going away from me instead of toward me.

Because I froze. I'm like, there's no way in hell. This same thing could still be here. But obviously, it was. So I backed up. When I got to a point where I felt like I didn't hear it anymore, I turned around and I booked back up to the main road. Of course, I didn't tell anybody because I didn't want to go through that ridicule again of being labeled as the family. the family tall tell teller.

Okay, so I didn't say a word. But, yeah, the thing was still there again. And it's very close to the area where they're having a lot of sightings up in East Texas right now. Very, very close. Up in the northeast Texas, Big Sandy. You got Big Sandy, Grant-Sling, Anderson, Texas, all that area up there. Mount Pleasant, Mount Vernon, all that area up there is where they have a bunch of sightings in Upper East Texas.

Well, we're way north of there, but it's still in the same area, though. But yeah, I went back. I had it in Connor again. This time I wasn't playing, and I just froze and backed out of there. But I did get the feeling that this thing knew who I was. I believe it remembered me. It didn't have, you know, any type of, you know, any type of. aggression toward me.

It just let me know that it was there. Now, when it stepped through the woods, you could hear it breaking stuff as it's going through the woods because it had been like five years, three, four, five years since anybody went down there and cleared off some of the land. So all the brush had grown up. It's very, very thick.

You know, the stuff is kind of like if nobody's there cleaner to clearing the land off, stuff will just grow up out of the ground and just cover everything. Kind of like, you know, just these shrubs and just start, you know, vines, you know, start growing over trees. They go from one tree to the other tree, and they, you know, they close the gap. So when you walk in through the woods, now everything is growing up, you got to knock stuff out of the way or have your machete and chop it out of the way. This thing was just breaking stuff out of the way as it was moving away from me.

And you could hear it. It was stomping and it was breaking stuff. And it was just, you know, it's kind of like it was just snap, pow, you know, just like a bulldozer. You know, just knocking stuff out of the way. So I said, yeah, that's that thing again. That's the same one I saw because it smelled the same. And, you know, judging by the foot falls of the footsteps, it was probably about the same weight. Because the one I saw when I was a kid was extremely heavy, big and heavy, you know, massive.

Let me ask you, Dallas, you know, there's different types of these things. And the one thing that I find very fascinating about this subject is a lot of people who see the Sasquatch that looks more human-like. It tends not to have the aggression. They tend to be a little bit more on the cool when things happen. They don't quite come after you like the others. For example, I know the one down there. Everyone says it looks like a chimpanzee, like a half-man, half-chimpanzee. Pansy, and it's built a little bit more ugly than the one you and I are talking about.

That one tends to be very aggressive. I've never talked to someone who ran into it that said, hey, it was a happy encounter. I mean, they'll flat out charge you. They'll come after you. But it's strange because, and I don't know if it's different types. It must be different types. Because when people say, oh, this looked human, this thing looked like a human, that particular species doesn't tend to be as aggressive as, you know, it's almost like the people that say it looks human, your aggression level is going to be a lot less.

Or if they say it look more ape-like, like here in the Pacific Northwest, for the most part, the aggression's a little bit less. Now, when you get down there in the big thicket, and you're running into the half-chimpanzee half-man-looking thing that a lot of people have described, it's a whole different ballgame. This thing will come after you. Do you think it was just one creature on your property? Do you think it was just kind of a little bit of hanging out? No, no, no, it's not a long, it's not a long road. It's been a family. I think this, this, this is probably either the, the leader of the pack or, uh, maybe a scout or whatever, but no, he, it's definitely more down there.

I got the feeling that were more around. I just didn't see and didn't hear any more footsteps. But, you know, you got to, you kind of have a sixth sense, you know, when you, when you, when, when, when, when you feeling or you have a sensation that something's watching you, you kind of have a sick sense if you see more than one or you feel that there are more than one set of eyes watching you, that's where I felt. You know, that's why I said I froze and I backed out of that.

I didn't look to the left and look to the right. And once I felt like it was clear to go and he was walking away, I took off. So, but I got the sensation that there was more than one watching me. But like I said, I didn't see. feel like there was a threat by any of them or anyone. I just don't tend to, you know, to follow some of the norms that I've heard about, the Sasquatches that they, the patterns just don't seem to match up with some of the accounts that I'm hearing.

They just don't seem to match up. Now, the one down, like that picture that was taken down in Florida, that the one that they call it a skunkate, but it's not. not, it looks like an orangutan. But here's the thing. Everybody's still trying to prove whether they exist not. These things have, the one I saw on a picture in Florida had red eyes and upper fangs and lower fangs. Now, I understand that you can make a wookie Star Wars mask, you know, and put a guy in the suit, you know, make them look like a, you know, a wookie.

from Star Wars, but you can't, you can't duplicate the mass that these things have. You can't duplicate the weight that they have. And there's no way a person that weighs 250, 300 pounds can make the sounds through the woods that a 800, 900-pound creature could make. You know, they can't make those footsteps. And again, like I say, where are all the people that are making these suits? why don't somebody put out, you know, a reward? Let's say I put out, somebody puts out, you know, X amount of dollars for the people that are wearing these suits to come forward.

You know, and you get $10,000 reward. If you come forward and prove that you were wearing a suit at the time that this photograph was taken and it's a hoax. If somebody, if they're actually hoaxing it, I'm sure they need the money if they're running around in a monkey suit. but who's making these suits? Yeah, and I'm with you on that because I don't think there's as much hoaxing going on as people think there is. You know, you put up any video, you put up any picture, and people say it's hoaxed. There was one guy I had on the show. He had the same come up to his back door, and I don't know exactly quite what it was.

I was thinking juvenile Sasquatch, but its movements were, I'll send it to you, Dallas. And most people remember that. When I had the guy on the show, it was this creature that approached his back door. And it was all, it was naked. And he sat down his iPad and filmed it. And it had been going on for a long time. What people don't know is I've talked to that guy's pastor, the one that didn't come on the air. And he was there and they saw it.

He actually saw it. He didn't want to come on the show. Doesn't want his name mentioned. But when he showed up on the property, complete daylight, he saw that same thing. and he went through the description with me. And everyone's screaming hoax that this guy's a master CGI. I think he delivers pizzas for a living, so I don't see him being a master CGI artist.

And I've sent it to a couple guys in Hollywood, and they're like, well, whatever it was, it was real. It would be impossible almost to fake this because of how he filmed it. And if he did fake it, if that is CGI, he needs to go work for Hollywood. I mean, I had a lot of guys look at it. And not one person came back and said, yeah, this is BS. Everyone said, oh, this guy captured something. And so I don't think, you know, and then that's a part that's frustrating with pictures and with video.

When I was at the International Bigfoot conference, this guy showed me this picture. Gosh, I wish he would have sent it to me. If he's listening, please send it to me. But it was the best picture I've ever seen. And it looks like a Sasquatch with a protruding nose sticking out, kind of like a baboon. and he caught it mid-stride. He took a picture of it because it was on his camera

driving down the road. And it was the middle of the day. And I looked at that and Woody looked at it and I was like, holy crap, where did you get this from? I mean, the guys were perfect.

The knees were down where the shins were. It just, the way it looked, I mean, I almost wanted to throw up when I looked at it because it's like, where did you get this picture from?

And so, and he's like, well, I'm not going to post online because people say, I faked it or, you know, it's CGI. He goes,

I don't want to put myself through that. And I was like, holy crap, man, this is the clearest picture I've ever seen better than Patty, better than anything else. And I was blown away by it. So it's frustrating sometimes because when people have real evidence, they're even encounters. They're leery on coming up with their encounters because you get eaten alive on everything. And I don't think there's as much hoaxing going on as people think, as people believe there is. I personally believe that there are people out there trying to project the hoaxes to make people believe that they're hoaxes

and they're pushing the hoaxes out. But you've got to remember, were they hoaxing in the 1830s when the Native Americans were telling the Europeans, hey, there are creatures out there when the shamans, The Indian shamans made those masks. They were already here before, you know, the Europeans arrived. And they were mask, you know, or totem posts that had, you know, pictures of the, you know, images of these creatures. So were they hoaxing back then?

If they weren't hoaxing back then, everything can't be a hoaxed today because you'd have to dismiss the fact that the, you know, the, you know, indigenous people of this continent saw the thing before you got here. So you can't go back and say, well, those people were making it up. They were making up a hoax maybe to try to scare the Europeans away. No, they didn't. They welcomed Europeans and made treaties with them. So they weren't trying to scare them away by telling them there's a creature out there. They weren't telling them that, you know, hey, they come in, some of our maidens have been drug off

and taken off in the woods and never seen from again. Some of them even sacrificed, you know, would leave some of the young maidens out there to appease the so-called spirit. There it is. So they wouldn't come back. Yeah. No, and you're right. It does go back historically. I actually want to come back to that,

if you're willing to talk about that, where these things come from. But before I get into that, Jeffrey Evans, He wrote on the Sasquatch Chronicles fans page. And I thought this was really good, Jeffrey, if you're listening. He said, the more I listen to individual accounts, it almost seems that once an individual has an experience with these creatures, the Sasquatch seem to have the ability to recognize that person, has seen one in the past. Basically, they know who has seen them and who hasn't. And if someone has, they allow the person to see them again. most who have seen them

let me reword the sentence for most who have seen one seem to see multiple creatures over the lifetime just a thought open for discussion and you know he's right I would like to say Jeffrey's wrong he's absolutely right you get this weird sense when they're in the area and I can't describe it

I wish I could articulate it for the audience but once you've seen one if you go into you get a weird vibe that they're in the area You just get this weird. What do you think that is, Dallas? What's your own personal opinion on that? Everybody has what's called a six-sense.

All right. Everybody has a... It's called a six-sense. Well, that's what the psychologists call it. You know, you have a six-sense, you know, apart from your regular five senses. You know, but what it's called, what it's referred to in the Bible is your human spirit. your human spirit can kind of sense things that your regular five senses can't tell. You know, just kind of like when you come across somebody that you've never met before,

and for some reason that person doesn't job with you or you don't feel comfortable around that person, even though you've never met them, they've never done anything wrong until, you know, you don't know them from Adam. Well, that's what they call the Sixth Sense or the human spirit as the Bible refers to it, it's kind of like, it's kind of like a red alert or something that's a heightened sense that's out there, kind of like it senses things. Well, these things can have the same thing, too. However, however, I believe that it's kind of like when you, any, any type of wildlife that you come across is going to have, they're going to know you're there before you know they're there.

Like if you mountain A bike riding in California and you run across a mountain line, that mountain line knows you there before you know he's there. Because that's their surroundings. And once they get a whiff of you, it's kind of like, you know,

the bloodhounds. Once they get a whiff, they own you. And they know, and they don't forget what that smell, what it's like. You know, and these things, I believe, have the ability as hominids, you know, they have kind of a six sense at the same time as whatever type of creature they are, they have the ability, they have heightened senses or they can smell something and they don't forget. It's kind of like an elephant.

An elephant, when it sees something, it may not see it for 10 years. If it sees a person and recognizes that person, they will remember you 10 years from now. You know, elephants, dolphins are the same way. So that's why I don't believe that it's a man in a suit because these things can do things. The reports that I have heard all seem to, you know, go along the same lines of explaining that these hominid creatures, however humanoid they look, they're still out in the wild.

And they still behave to a certain degree like wild people. want to we want to humanize everything that we see, you know, but these things are not particularly humans, even though they look like humans. They still in the wild. They still have to live like wild creatures. They have to hunt. They have to have a heightened sense. They have to protect themselves from bears. They have to protect themselves from, you know, whatever else they, you know, elements out there that, you know, that might harm them. And they have a heightened sense. But just like any other creature or beast or whatever you want to call it that lives in the wild, they don't forget things.

You know, they don't forget smells. They don't forget that you fed them. They don't get, you brought apples to them and left them there, and you don't bring them back again and they come after you. I've heard accounts where the, the Sasquatch have followed people to their homes because they didn't get their apples for that day or whatever, you know. Let me ask you about that. Do you think people are feeding a wild animal, or do you think they're leaving a tribute for something else?

And there's a major difference. I think they're feeding a hominid creature that behaves like, you know, in a sense, let's say you feed any kind of creature. You feed a rabbit. You go out and put cats or whatever in a certain place. place. That, that creature is going to come back looking for that carrot the next day. I think that this is what you, what you're doing. I don't, I don't, I think you pretty much feeding or setting yourself up for something that doesn't understand that you have a job and you can't come back every day and bring them apples. He doesn't understand that. And it doesn't

have a job. It doesn't have a, you know, a school it goes to. It doesn't understand that, um, you're a person just having them. happened to be walking by that day. You said, huh, I'm going to leave some apples out here. You do it. Apples are gone. He said, huh, I bring some apples back another day. Leave them there again.

Well, they're gone again. Well, the thing doesn't know that you're saying, okay, well, that's enough. I'm not going to leave my apples. I've got to go to work. And it doesn't understand that. So I think that, you know, you're leaving something for, I don't think this thing understands what the difference between a tribute and a gift or a gift or a, you know, a one-time feeding, I don't think it understands the difference.

I don't see why it could understand the difference. I do understand that all creatures that have the ability to be domesticated or have the ability to recognize that somebody is leaving something for them or leaving it in a particular place and they come to that particular place and they see it, they see, huh, apple again. A person over there left the apple here. then a person comes, they eat the apple, it's gone, a person comes back, leaves another apple.

Well, that's a pattern that they recognize that they say, huh, where's my apple? Then they get used to it. Where's my apple? I don't see my apple today. Huh, that guy must, the guy that dropped it off here, I know where he is, I can smell him, so I'll follow his scent and I'll get my apple. That's just like any other creature out in the while I would do, you know, if it won't get an apple. Do you think it's more than that, though?

Here's the reason I ask. There's a lot, if you go into, and I love, for example, like reading the Bible, I've read it several times, and I know it well, and I've read the book of Enoch and some of these other books, but, you know, I'm also a student of like Viking history, for example, and the Vikings, what they would do, and it almost sounds like a Sasquatch encounter. What they would do is they would leave food for what they called the forest spirits or the forest giants. And what they would do is like, and the whole purpose behind it was to leave a tribute. The purpose of leaving a tribute was so that they would leave you alone. And what the Vikings described is running into beings. Most of the time they describe them as being just black. They don't really have any major descriptions on them, but they always talk about red eyes, glowing red eyes.

And you have to leave a tribute for these things so they won't harm you. And when I read that, I thought to myself, you know, that sounds pretty similar to what people. people are doing today, I almost wonder if it's food or if it's a tribute. I think on the people that are leaving the sample or the food or the, I think they're thinking they're leaving a tribute. I don't think that the Sasquots understand that it is a tribute. If it did, it wouldn't go berserk when it doesn't get it. Wait, wait, wait, don't you think it would go berserk? A tribute is a form of worship. So if I don't work...

Right, right, right. Right. It's going to go berserk, but it doesn't know why it didn't get the tribute the second time. Oh, I got you. Let's say you leave a tribute once a year. Well, that thing, you know, okay, it's all right. Maybe it can figure out that you left it this time and a year goes by. They don't see it anymore.

Then you come back a year later, you leave that tribute. and they maybe they have some type of understanding of time to where they know that when you leave it when the snow starts falling, they know not to look for it until the snow starts falling. But that doesn't mean that they know that it's a tribute. That just means that, hmm, it's that time of year. My food's supposed to be here, you know?

But I don't think that they rationalize any of that as a tribute. Maybe there are some that do understand it that are more intelligent than others. Maybe they do. But as far as a primitive preacher, I don't see how it could, you know, it's just out for survival. You know, it's just out for, you know,

get whatever it can get. If you leave me something, I'm not going to turn it down. But if you don't, you know, I'm going to keep, I'm going to go over here and get me a deer. I'm going to go over here to find an apple tree. I'm going to go wherever I got to do because I got to eat. So I think that on a primitive level, if they see that there's a pattern of something that's left there, fine.

That's, you know, they're not going to turn it down, true enough. Now, as far as the Native Americans are saying that, you know, we consider them spirits of the forest, if you will. Okay, we consider them and we give them, you know, we'll give them this tribute, this, year, we'll give them a maid next year, we'll sacrifice a virgin the year after that. You got to remember, the Native Americans are just about any indigenous people that were, you know, somewhat primitive at some point in time. They did that to guys that didn't even exist. You know, they did that the wooden statues. They throw, you know, a virgin off into a volcano and stuff. Well, you know, that doesn't mean that, you know, that, that, that ritual that they're following has any bearing, you know, the, the, the surroundings, the wildlife, the creatures, the environment, the nature.

That's just something that they got in their head that they think that, well, if we do this, it'll make the spirits go away. Well, you just probably gave up a version, and she got out there, and they took the virgin and did whatever they did to it. The virgin didn't come back. They either killed her, ate her, whatever, raped her. I don't know. But she didn't come back. Maybe she did come back. Maybe she came back like that woman over in China and was pregnant and had that eight-foot-tall kid that had an IQ of five.

You see what I mean? So I don't, you know, I can't really, you know, say that I'll, I'll, that what the, the, um, rituals that, that, that, that, that people send to want to cling to always, you know, it's two sides to that ritual. You may be thinking that you're appeasing them or giving them a tribute. They just looking for something to eat. I got to. They just looking for something, you know, uh, if it comes, it comes and don't, it don't. But I don't think that they're applying the logic to that particular act that humans are applying to it. Like, again, I keep saying we want to humanize everything that we see.

We want to humanize creatures that don't think the way we think, you know, just like we have, we domesticate our pets. You know, we domesticate our animals and stuff. You know, we're thinking that they're understanding what we're saying. And to some degree they do. But for the most part, you know, when you come. call your dog, you go, uh, here, here, Fido, do this and do that, do that, go over that, go over and jump on that. He just here, here's Fido. Yeah. And he's, and you get, you give him his biscuit and he's happy. He knows of feet when he hears his name. He's coming because he's going to get his dog

biscuit. So I, you know, we try to humanize things that I just don't think you can put, um, uh, you know, an intelligence into these creatures that's not there. Yes, they are intelligent, very intelligent. And from the accounts that I have seen, they're extremely intelligent, they're extremely elusive. They know how to hide from you in plain sight better than the dog-grown Marines. You know, obviously they're excellent survivors because they can survive without the modern amenities that we have. You know, they just living out here with nothing but hair on them. You know, a lot of Native Americans, they talk about where these things came from. And what these things are. And it's very hard to get, a lot of Native Americans won't talk about it.

I've noticed. And, you know, I had Kevin on the last show. Did a great job. He's up there in the Mogion Rim, and he's running into a group of them. And they've been, for the most part, not really aggressive with him. And one of the things I asked him was, what do you think that these things are? And I was a little taken back. He said, well, they're the Nephilim. They're the Nephilim from the Bible. And I was like, really? And if that's what you think, then what do you? And I kind of gave him a hard time. I feel bad about it. But, you know, Kevin is, he had the balls to say what he thought it was. And so I respect that very much. And I really think he's got real stuff going on up there. But I was taken back a little bit by that because I was like, well, in my mind, I would sleep better at night. And knowing it was nothing more than just a damn dirty ape out there running around. I don't think it is. Do the natives talk, and a lot of the Native Americans, when I ask them, they'll say, well, they were here before we even got here. So it makes me wonder, is it just an indigenous species to North America, or is it something else? What's your opinion?

What have you heard through your culture what these things are? Well, first of all, using the biblical reference of the Nephilim to label it as wrong. the nephalum were not hominid giants that were, you know, had a low IQ of basically an animal, okay, that, you know, just lived on instinct. The nephalum were actually a giant humans, okay? According to, if you go back and read your Bible about the nephalum, it never says that they were wild beasts that just walked around, you know, Amos looking for food like these things to do. So it's not a Nephilim. All right. Now, what you don't hear is the books of the Bible that were taken out,

like you mentioned Enoch and the other books, Thomas and things like that, there were some books that were taken out of Bible that were actually canonized in the Bible originally with the Old Testament. It's called the Apocrypha. And in the Apocrypha, it talked about beasts that had flamed, red eyes. It's not talking about Nephilim. It doesn't mention Nephlem in that book, The Wisdom of Solomon. Solomon wrote the song of Solomon, which is in the Old Testament, but he also wrote Wisdom of Solomon, which was in the Old Testament, but they took it out in the

1880s when the Native Americans and the slaves were learning how to read English. So they took it out. but if you go back and read that book, it talks about the beast that the Lord created that were reserved for whatever he wanted to use them for. I personally believe from reading the scriptures, the evidence that has been gathered from the people who are doing actual research on these creatures. They're not Nephilim, and I believe that the these creatures have been here since man has been here. You know, in the Bible it tells you that, you know, when, you know, Christ, well,

Adam created, well, when the Lord created all the beasts, Adam named them. Every beast, not just, you know, the elephants, the rafts, and the lions. Every beast that was created, Adam, you know, named it. He knew them all. so but that lets you know that the Lord created everything that's here he created he created the Leviathan which um you know is is is a giant uh watery beast uh that most people don't want to talk about but it's in the Bible now you got to run into problems when you when people try to use the Bible to describe certain things out here um because they got they got a

short. They either got to accept the Bible as, you know, the whole book that is valid, and that means everything in it is valid. Or they got to dismiss it and say, you know, that they can't dismiss it and say, well, parts of the Bible make sense. Other parts, we can't go by. Well, if that's the case, you either use it all or you don't use any of it at all. So, but as far as the nephalum, no, the nephalum were not, the nephalim were not, um, um, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the nephalums whose name was og, OG, his bed was 14 feet long, all right? So that means he was close to 14 feet and height, because they had to make, make a bed for him, that was that big.

But they didn't say that he was a hairy beast that didn't do nothing but grunt and, and whoop. He was, he was, you know, the king of the giants at that time. So, no, they're not Nephilim. The Nephilim were humans that were just giant people, you know, extremely tall people. So, and if you go over in Africa today, you got to remember now, everything that was in the Bible, that was so many years ago, the people that are in those areas today are not the same people that were in those areas. during the biblical times.

That being said, just to give you an example of how, you know, you're talking about heightened big people and everything, the people that were in Egypt at the time that the Israelites were there, or the time that they were getting ready to go into the promised land, they were supposedly tall people. Well, the Egyptians that were there at the time the Israelites were there in Old Testament are now down to the Dan. And if you notice that the tribe down there called the Wattuizu.

Well, those people all grow over seven feet tall. All of them. Okay? So, yes, there are people that are extremely tall, but they're humans. They're not, these creatures that have no sense of humanity. You know, they don't walk and talk like we do. So, no, I don't think that they're nephalum. Well, let me ask you.

I don't think that they're. And you bring up some good points. because you're right, the nephalum are really the rulers of the world if you go back and really study the nephalum. They weren't wild beasts out running around. Are they an offshoot of the nephalum? I don't know. But they seem to do a lot of strange things. I've talked to a lot of people off the air that talk about these creatures, and most of them don't want to come on the air, but they describe very odd, very strange things that happens with these creatures.

And it makes me wonder, are they natural? because they don't seem to be, in my mind, a natural creature. I can look at an ape and go, yeah, that's a natural creature. I can look at a chimpanzee and go, oh, that's a real creature. Sasquatch, though, there's something different about it. There's something very odd about it. Why is it when people run into it, they automatically run into this unknown fear they've never experienced before in their life? It's just straight up.

Every emotion in the book hit you when you see this thing. Right. And you're terrified. Right. And you get the feeling of being watched. And you don't really get that when, like, a cougar is watching you. You don't really get that one of bears watching you. It's more of a human thing.

You know, if a human's watching you, you'll turn and kind of look in that direction. So what do you think they are? Where do you think they come from? Are you saying that you think they're natural? I think they were created just like any other creature by the creator. The creator of who created trees, the oceans. He created everything. and he created these things as well.

The problem is these are not creatures that man can get a handle on. If you notice, if you read the Bible and you read where Adam named every creature, he had control of all the beasts, all the beasts of the earth. Adam had control over. He named him, you know, gave him whatever, put him in whatever category he wanted to. However, however, you have to read the hidden books that tell you that the Lord has some creatures that he reserved for specific purpose. That doesn't mean that Adam didn't know about him. It just means that if the Lord, if the Creator, the Almighty Creator, creates something and keeps it hidden from man.

man. Man wants to dismiss it because it's something that he can't control. It's something that he can't explain. It's something that is not out in the open like every other creature is in their habitat. When you go to the Congo, you go out there and you go out and get the safari truck. And if you go to a certain area, you'll see this type of creature. If you go to this certain area, you see that type of creature. They're out there in a natural habitat trying to live and eat and survive and get eaten by whatever else out there. There's a top predator over there. These things, though, even though they're created naturally like any other creature, these creatures are elusive. These creatures can think to a certain degree. These creatures are faster than you or I. and these creatures can smell you and I before we get to them. So these creatures are a little bit different than all the other creatures that the Lord gave us to have control over.

So he gave us creatures that we have control over, but then he reserved some creatures for himself that we don't have control over. Let me ask you about that. Help me understand this, because I've never read anything about that. And I realize it's not a Bible show, and I realize most people have tuned out at this point. But help me understand that, because it was my understanding, every animal was brought forth. And he was to name everything. I don't remember ever reading where he was like, well, I'm going to hold these off to the side and use them for what I need him for.

How did you come to that conclusion? Okay, well, just look up the Vizan. The Vyathon is a creature that lives in the sea, the depths of the sea. It's, it's, what do you call it? It scales are so tight together that no type of arrow could pierce them, all right? But it's a giant preacher that lives in the sea. Adam didn't go out into the sea and name the thing. Okay, Adam didn't go out and named Leviathan.

The Lord named Leviathan. Okay, there's nowhere in the scriptures was Adam named Leviathan. Okay. the Lord creates things. Everything was brought forth. Yes, it was. But that doesn't mean that everything was given under man's control. Now, the, I could say, you have to get you an apocrypha, the hidden books and go and read and wasn't the problem where it talks about these creatures.

Just like in the Lord of Host, there are creatures there that look, I think it's in Ezekiel, that talked about there's a creature, angel-like creature that has four different heads. It has a head of a man, head of a lion, head of an ox, and a head of an eagle. All right. So that's something, do you see that particular creature walking around? No. All right? That's a, you know, that's a creature that doesn't come down here.

You know, if you want to, you know, I think in some of the scriptures it calls it a type of, type of one of the hosts of heaven, H-O-S-T, the host of heaven. But it does mention that it's in there. It does mention it in the Bible, but it doesn't say that Adam called that creature down and named it, all right? But it is a creature, all right? It is mentioned in the Bible. So what people do is they read, you know, parts of the Bible, get certain things out of them, but they don't keep reading. just because one

you know the first part of the Bible says okay you know all these creatures are made Adam they were all brought forth Adam name them all but there's also a part that says the Lord created these creatures let me see if I can pull it up here just in the apocrypha

I think it's in Rism of Solomon the I think it's in the 11th chapter the 13th chapter and it's best to let the when you're trying to talk about creatures that are in the Bible It's best to let the Bible itself speak and not try to rationalize what you think the Bible is saying and just let it speak for itself. But it says, here it is.

It's wisdom of Solomon, the 11th chapter. I'm going to start at verse 17. It says, for the almighty hand that made the world of matter without form, want it not means to send among them a multitude of bears or fierce lions. hear that fierce lions or unknown wild beast full of rage newly created breathing out either a fiery vapor or a filthy scent of scattered smoke or shooting horrible spark sparkles out of their eyes now of course we know that those of red glowing eyes okay so there you have it in the bible itself that tells you that there are unknown beasts, unknown wild beast, full of rage, newly created.

Now, that's in the Bible. Okay? Now, that doesn't mean that it's contradiction of what you've already read. It just means that there's more to it and you have to keep reading. You can't read. It's just like we have relied on in this society. We have relied on our hunters, our people that go out and the rough riders or whatever, go out and do exotic animal hunting.

They bring back, you know, examples of rhinos. They bring back examples of what is that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's over in the Congo, that nobody knew it was over there for, for a while. It's called a gray back or a day, or the diamond back. What is it called? Uh, silver back. All right? Nobody knew that thing existed for a long time, but it was there. The indigenous people knew it was there

But until our American or British Or whatever Hunters or explorers Went over there and found it Took a picture of it Captured one shot one put in a cage And brought it back a shoulder to say yes This exists until then we didn't know it exists

We didn't know it existed That's another thing you have to consider These things These creatures can have the ability they know how to hide. They know how to evade mainstream society. And the Native Americans,

indigenous people, told you. They don't come out in the open and say, hey, how are you doing? You know, I'm a I'm a saskatch. You know, I'm a ghost of the woods and don't come in this area because this is my place.

They don't do that. All right? They stay in the woods. They know how to be stealth. They know how to avoid humanity. That is how they survived, I would assume, all these years they have survived because they don't come around us. We want everything to come to us and give us a resume. Well, these things are going to do that.

The fact that there are some, we're discovering new species every day. There's some new type of ant, alligator, whatever. You know, there's some type of new species, bat, whatever, that's being discovered every day. New species are being discovered every day. day. That doesn't mean that they had never were there until we discovered them. They've been there. We just didn't know they were there. But now, all of a sudden, you have in the 1800s, the Native Americans told you they were there, but you didn't believe it. All right? Mainstream society is when I'm saying you. I'm saying mainstream society didn't want to believe it, didn't

believe it. Even Eric DeRead gave an account when he came to the Americas of Paul Harry, awful-smelling Beast. Eric the Red, the Viking, did that before Columbus got here. Okay? He even described it. Teddy Roosevelt described one in his book. Now, this is a man that was smart enough to become president, but when he tells you, he came into an encountering some type of beast that wasn't a bear, and it wasn't a man, but it was something else different. All of a sudden, nobody wants to read his book anymore. You see? So we have to stop being, um, selective and what we want to say is valid and what we want to say is a

hoax because we can't we can't grab it put it in a box and say here here's a label on it I'm going to staff and put it up and I'm going to cut it his head off put it up on my wall that's one of the creatures that I conquered and that let you know that I'm still in control of this earth or this this world I'm in control No, there's some things out there that the Lord reserved for himself, according to what the scriptures say. There's some things out there that he would observe that he kept back from man.

Even though Adam, he may have known that there was, he may have known that there was, it doesn't speak on that. So where the Bible speaks, we speak, where the Bible is silent, we're silent. We don't know. But we do know that today in 2017, there are creatures out there to have the strength to pull a tree up out of the ground by the root. we know this. We've seen the evidence. All of them can't be hoaxes. All of them can't be men in monkey suits.

All of them can't be leaving all these 21-inch footprints walking around here that are, you know, two inches deep in the mud. You know, they weigh too much. So the evidence, sometimes we have to let go and say, okay, look, the evidence is here that this is a creature. We don't know how I got here. We don't know how it got started. We don't know what created it. The closest thing that I can explain, or I lean to believing, is Dr. Melville Ketchum's explanation of her DNA findings. And it clearly said that it was some type of lemma monkey made it with a Neanderthal.

Now, I don't know if it was a male lemma monkey raped a Neanderthal female or a male Neanderthal raped a female monkey. I don't know. Don't know, really don't care. But the fact is, if offspring are here, they're here. And we can't dismiss them and say that, well, since we can't figure out how they came to existence, they don't exist. And I tend to agree with you. The only thing with that is there's something very different about this, this whole subject. Now, I can't put it on paper and show you the reasons why I feel the way I feel.

But there's something very different about when you run into this creature. It's very different. And the experiences are very different. And so if you look at the evidence, you talk about evidence, look at the evidence, look at the footprints. They look human. They don't look like, yeah, they don't look like gorillas. They don't look like chimpanzees. They don't look like they look human.

It just looks on a larger scale. And what's interesting is, I don't know that a lemur monkey could have sex with Neanderthal and produce something, but, you know, what do I know? I'm just a podcaster. It seems odd to me, but I'll go with that. Yeah, it's very odd. Well, that's not me. That's the DNA.

I didn't make it up. No, no, no. That's what the DNA said. Yeah, I don't know. I'm with you. So when you look at that, though, that does not seem natural to me. That does not seem something like something is natural. No.

Like it belongs here. No, it's not. Right, right. I agree with you 100%. It is not natural. But like I said, but again, is a Siamese twin natural? No.

You know, it's not. Is, is, okay, let's look at it. Let's bring it back close to the home. Down in Mexico, there are two boys. There are two brothers. They have a condition called hypertricosis. All right. They grow hair all over their face, just like a wolfman.

All right? They look just like Lawn Chain in a 1940 wolfman movies. Okay. They have hair all up. Is that natural? I know you've seen them. They were on the Today Show. Well, there are two boys.

They're probably in the 20s or 30s by now. But about 10 years ago, they did a show on them. They're down in Mexico, and they have a condition. In fact, there was one, in the old PT Barnum Circus, they had a woman that was called the dog woman, because she had hell all over her face just like a dog. She looked like a wolf. But she was just a regular woman, but she had a condition that caused her hair to grow all over her face.

And that's not natural. It's not natural. Just because something's not natural doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It doesn't mean that it's part of, you know, it exists here on the world. It's part of nature, even though it's not natural, true enough, but it does exist. It is here. the Siamese twins or two people join together at the hip or some of them are joined together at the back or join together at the head. It's not natural, but it does happen.

Okay. And that's why we have to let go of what we want to, you know, see as the norm and see as what's correct and right as far as what should exist in nature and accept the fact that there are some things in nature. and accept the fact that there are some things in nature that we can't, you know, we can't get, you know, we can't hold, we can't control, we can't figure out how it got here, but nevertheless is here, you know, just like fighting a white tiger. Okay, now, now, now, let me, let me give you some, let me give you an account that I saw on one of the YouTube channels that, you know, M.K. Davis did a, a featureette on the white bigfoot. You remember that one? Yeah, of course, yeah. It's an albino, it's an albino, it's an albino bigfoot.

Okay, he did, he did an excellent piece on it, and did a video film on it. Now, if you go and look up on YouTube, white bigfoot, and scroll down, you'll see one, there's a video of two guys shooting off some rifles at some dynamite. and in the background, where in the background where they're shooting at, there's a white bigfoot running. All right.

Now, if it was a man in a suit, and I'm talking to all of your Bigfoot listeners out there, if it was a man in a suit, number one, why would he be out there where guys are shooting rifles off, you know, out in the woods, and they're shooting at these, I think they put it on some drums,

and he's hiding behind a tree. First of all, and they're shooting at it, and they missed it a couple of times, then they finally hit it and the dynamite went off. Why would some man in a suit be out there in a white suit on top of that that sticks out like a sore thumb standing in an area where these guys are shooting their rifles at these targets? Okay.

That's number one. Number two, when the first guy missed the shot, he didn't hit the dynamite, but he hit the platform who was standing on and it ricochet and you can hear it. Well, the sound made the white big foot. run toward the dynamite, all right? I believe that they're so sensitive to sound that when that rifle went off and it hit that ricochet or that metal a piquette or whatever, it disoriented the white big foot and he was running the wrong direction.

Then a second guy shot it and hit the dynamite and it went off and he turned around, the big foot turned around and went the other way. That's an account that I don't think anybody would half a brain will say that, yeah, That was probably a man in a suit he didn't know where he was going. No. Why would you be out there in a white suit? Number one, why would you be out there with people shooting in your direction? Number two, why would you run toward the dynamite that they're shooting at?

It just doesn't make any sense. Yeah. You know, no. I'm with you on that. The part where I'm getting lost, and we talked about Siamese twins. We talked about people with two heads. And to me, that's corrupt DNA. That's like a glitch.

the matrix. It's very corrupt DNA. Right. It's a mutation. Yeah, it's a mutation. Exactly. It's a mutation. Yeah. It's a mutation. One egg and it's two different sperm. It's a mess. But my point, though, is I don't think you can have sex with a gorilla and create an offspring. I don't think that's possible. I mean, I'm not a scientist. I could be wrong. I don't think you could have, let's use chimpanzees or actually, what's the one that's the closest to us? Well, let's just go chimpanzees.

I don't think you could have sex with chimpanzee and produce an offspring. I don't think that's possible. But why is it that this thing is so close to us where, like Melba's DNA study, where, okay, it's a half lemur, half Neanderthal, I don't know that that's possible. In my mind, I don't think your DNA could get so corrupt that you could have sex with a lemur and produce an offspring, in my mind. I understand where you're going, and I'm with you. Here's what I have to interject in that theory. They have told us that DNA is DNA.

Since the 1960s, when they came out with the double helix strand, they can map. If you got a sample, you can map it out. I don't know how or why her findings came out the way they did. All I know is that's what it said. It didn't say it was a Lima monkey. It said it was something next to a Lima monkey. It just said that the closest that she could come to, all right, of the, she knows that the Modicado DNA was a Neanderthal. But the Y chromosome was something in the area of a Lima monkey.

She didn't say it wasn't a Lima monkey. She said that it was something down that line. in that chain. But she didn't say, they said they don't know exactly what it is. But the closest thing that they could get to was a lemur monkey. Like in the same thing? They don't know what it is.

Same family group, that sort of thing. Right, right. It's the same family group. I don't know why. I don't know how. But I do know that some of the research I've looked up, says that those lemurs,

even the sloths, I think, are in that same family. You know, 2,000 years ago, 3,000 years ago, they weren't the small creatures that we see today that moved real slow. They were really big, all right? So I don't know whatever was in that family, you know, had sex with that female Neanderthal, but that's what the DNA shows.

And that's as far as we can go until we find, until somebody takes her, Dr. Ketcham's research and goes a little bit further and finds something. But that's where we are right now. That's all we have. That's all we can go on. But I do know that that lines up with the fact that this scripture says that there are unknown beast. Unknown beast. Now, this is something that.

I need to get a copy of that. Okay. Okay. Yeah. you can go to any bookstore, Barnes and Nobles and get you, you can get you a 1611 King James Bible that has the apocry in it, or just by the parlorpa in itself, and it's in there, it's in wisdom of Solomon. So that says unknown, the DNA says unknown, that's as far as we can go with it as of right now. In time, we may find out more correctly or more accurately exactly what it was that took place. three, four thousand years ago.

I don't know. But at this point, we do have enough to be able to biblically and scientifically to say that there is a creature out there that we, that is not a part of humanity, that is not, you know, something that we can domesticate. And it's not a human, but it's not 100% an animal either. It's a humanoid, true enough, and it walks like us. It has feet like us. It doesn't have feet like a monkey.

However, it is a lot stronger and bigger and more massive than we are. Okay. Now we have to let the science take over and the evidence that we have take over and carry us a little bit forward. And that evidence is so that these things are strong enough. to pull trees up by the root. Do you know of any animal other than a human being with a tractor and a backhoe

that can pull a tree up out of the ground by the roots? No. Not at all. No. No. So we have to let the evidence from this point take over and take us forward until the science catches up with the evidence.

Because the evidence says it's there. The science says that something is unknown. We don't know what it is yet. but we're working on it. So when it catches up with it, I'm sure we'll have our answers at that point, but for right now, all we know is that it's here, it's strong, it's fast, and we can't catch it. Yeah, and it's first time. So I don't even think I wanted to catch it, you know.

Yeah, no, I'm with you, man. I'm with you. Yeah. You know, it's interesting. There's nothing new under the sun, and so to go back, it's a, you know, a lot of people check out and don't read, you know, even if you're an atheist, go back and read some of the historical text. And I think a lot of people will be shocked. You know, like you and I were talking about anubis.

And when you look at anubis, it sure looks like the dogman. It sure looks like exactly what the people are talking about when they see dogman. What was anubis? Yeah. Right. And so maybe I'm wrong in trying to look in the past for an answer today, but I've been searching. No, you're not. No, you're not.

And I'll tell you why. The scripture says that we must give an account of the past. It says, remember the days of old. Like I said, you can't go and get one piece of the Bible and say, well, this is the only part that I want to subscribe to. Either it's all right or it's all wrong. And what you just said was written in the Bible, and you probably haven't even read that. But it says we're supposed to remember the days of old and give an account of the past. What has happened in the past is also what's going to happen in the future.

You know, the history repeats itself. and there's nothing no on the sun. All right. That's biblical. You got that down. And so the fact that the scriptures say that these things existed before we even, you know, we even went back and got the book and read it. They were all read.

The book was written in the book was already there before we even read it. That doesn't mean that it just popped up. That means that they've always been here or they've been here for a long enough time, at least since man has been on earth, they've been here. So we have to, you know, accept the, you know, what's actually right in front of our faces. We're seeing videos. There's a guy, for example, there's a cop had a dash cam on his car and he was driving at night. One of the Sasquots ran across, obviously was on two legs with M.K. Davis enhanced the video.

he's either in K. Davis or was think or thunker. Enhanced the video, and you could see there was one step, two step, three steps, and he was crossed the doggone street, the road. So if you take three steps and you from one inside the road to the other, that's moving pretty fast, okay? This is on the dash cam. Now, at some point we're going to have to say that, look, they can't fake everything. And some of the videos that we've seen can't be, can't be.

you know, a bear or a hoax. Because look at that lady that had a video where her rearview camera. They hit something. They thought it was a deer. I think it's in Colorado. And they hit it. It was laying in the middle of the road.

They backed up and they were taking a picture of it on the reverse camera on the car. The thing got out and started chasing the car. Well, bears don't do that. So this is something. you know, that we have so much evidence out there to, if it was a man or suit, it wouldn't have got up. Because when you hit a man or a human being with a car, you pretty much going to knock it out.

It ain't getting back up. This thing got up and started chasing the car. So there's, it's just, it's just too much evidence out there that tells us that even though we can't identify and we can't answer or connect all the dots, some of these dots, still there, and there are people that are coming up missing because they're going in an area where these dots are. So that's my concern, is with the public safety. I think that these creatures should be left alone. We should use our technology to identify where they are, take that place off where nobody goes in there, and let them live on their own. Let them be themselves, let them do

what they do, let them hunt their deer, let them smell up the place, let them do whatever they want to do. Leave them alone, but we know where they are, and we're in this area, just let them stay there. And that way nobody comes up missing. The problem with your theory is they don't stay in one spot forever. They tend to move. I know, I know. I like the idea. I'm with you on the idea. I'm not trying to beat you up. Yeah, I know. But it's a great idea. I know. I know. I just wish, I know. And I'm with you, man. I wish that they would just acknowledge it and say, hey, stay out of these general areas.

Or if you decide to go in these general areas, you need to keep going with a weapon and be alert on what is around you. Because you might run into something else besides a bear. And stay in a group. Stop going out hiking and mountain biking by yourself. And nobody knows where you are. You know your battery is going to run out on your phone and not going to be able to find. You don't have a GPS. you're keeping on you. Stop doing stuff like that. You know, to be smart about it, you know.

And there's more things that could happen besides Sasquatch. Like I said, you could fall, you know. Absolutely. And it's foolish to go out by yourself. A Sasquatch aside, it's foolish to go by yourself. Right. Yeah, it's fascinating, man. Like I said, I'm a student of all this stuff, you know, historical, biblical. I'm definitely a student. And there's one, I know a lot of people will check out on this show because they don't want to hear anything about the Bible, but there's one scripture and revelations that's always bothered me, and it says the wild beasts of the field will come out and kill a third of mankind. And when you read that, it makes you stop and go, well, what's that mean? You know what I mean? I live in the city.

I don't think a cures going to come here, and, you know, it can come up and try. I promise you all blast it. You know, or if a bear came up, I promise you, I'll blast it. Um, that I live in the city, but a third of mankind's a lot, man. And I don't think that was an illustration it was using. But what was strange is it says the wild beasts will come up and kill a third of mankind. And it's always bothered me. I don't know why that's bothered me. Well, you have to remember now, when you're looking at the book of Revelation, that's a prophetic book.

That hasn't happened yet. It's a prophetic book. It's talking about what's going to happen in the future. However, you do have evidence of things like that happening in the past. They have happened. In fact, I think it was the prophet Isaiah that was being mocked by some children, and he called some she bears that come out of the mountains. They came out and slaughtered 30 children because they were mocking him because he was bald or something like that.

I don't have, I'm not reading it right now, but I know our favorite name that's foot. But I'm with you on that. Okay. Well, you got to understand, again, the Lord said he created things for a specific purpose. Everything he creates, he has a purpose for it. Some of those purposes are, you know, are current to do right now. Some of them, like he gave man technology. Whatever we want to think of or imagine, we can create it.

But some things he's holding reserved. you know, and that are prophetic that are going to happen in the future, and they won't happen until he's, until he unleashes them on them. You know, he unleashes them, those things that come out. But yes, it does say that. And it says, beast. And you have to, you have to understand that, like this scripture says, you cannot, either going to take the whole Bible or none of it at all.

If you take the Old Testament, the Apocrypha, and the New Testament, not one of those scriptures contradicts itself. They just build upon the previous. So it doesn't contradict. It's just building. So you already got in the hypocrisy that there are unknown beasts, wild, wild beast full of rage, all right, newly created. Now you're going up to the New Testament, which is a little bit later,

about 400 years after the wisdom of Solomon was written, and you got John the revelator telling you what he was told in his vision in revelations that this is going to happen. So now you can't, now you've got old apocrypha and new account of, hey, there's something, there are beasts that are going to be held until there's time for them to do whatever it is. The Lord wants them to do. And so maybe that's why.

mankind doesn't want to accept the scriptures because he doesn't want to accept that there's something that has been prophesied is going to happen that he can't stop. And so maybe that's why a lot of times people want to dismiss the Bible as an O-Arcic book that has no relevance and what's going on. But it sure has some answers that we can't answer. Man's technology can't answer, you know. But this is the only relevant answer that you can come up with. and it's the only thing that makes any sense. So, yeah, yeah, I agree with you today. I'm glad you brought that up.

That is a fantastic scripture. Yes, that is prophetic. Yeah, no, I appreciate saying that. The other thing I find fascinating is through some of my research, and this is way off a big foot, but I found it fascinating, and I would think people listening might find it fascinating. I started looking into Native Americans, and where did the Native Americans come from? And it's always bothered me.

My grandmother was full Apache. And so when you look at the Americas, you're like, where did these people come from? And I remember one time I said to, I think it was a shaman or something, I said, you know, I kind of think some of the Native Americans are lost tribes of Israel. And I said, I can't prove that. But through some of this research that I'm doing, I really think that's where some of these people come from. And I remember that got so upset with me. Didn't want to hear it was just irate with me. But what's interesting is when you talk to a lot of Native Americans,

and you talked to them about their culture and their history. And for people who I think most Americans, non-natives, look at the natives as not being spiritual, not being in the traditional sense, you know, as far as what I guess we would think, you know, they don't go to church on Sunday, which... Christianity. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm trying to get.

I'm trying to say it without sounding like a dick. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. What I thought was interesting. One point I would get to is one thing I thought was interesting, you and I were talking the other night. And everyone has always heard, and I hope this doesn't sound like a jerk when I say it, but, you know, Native Americans, how they'll go around a fire and they'll chant, oh, wow, wow, oh, wah, or, you know, whatever they're chanting. But it's the same thing over and over and over again.

And I never really knew what they were saying. and what you said, I about fell out of my chair when you said it, would you describe to the audience what they're actually doing around a fire and when they're doing that chant, that oh, wah, wah, wah, you know, when they're chanting. Sorry for my mind. It's not wah-wah, it's jahua. It's jahua. In the Hebrew, you got to remember the Old Testament was written in Hebrew.

The New Testament was written in Greek. So in order to know a lot of the words in the Old Testament, you can't go by the English translation, you have to go back and get the original Hebrew translation. Now, in Paleo-Hebrew, the most Thai's name is Jahawa. Now, the reason why you're a conjecture that the Native Americans are part of the lost 10 tribes of Israel, you're absolutely correct. That's why they knew the name, the Paleo-Hebrew name of the creator, Yahawa. So when they were dancing around the fire, They weren't saying wah-wah-wah. They were saying, hey, Yahawa, hey, Yahweh, because Yahawa is the name of the most high.

Okay. God is kind of like a title, he is a God, that's a God. You got the God of War. You got the God of this, got the God of that. That's more or less kind of like a word God is not the Creator's name. His name is not God. That is just a description. He is the most high God.

But his name is not God. His name is Jahawa. Now, if you remember, I was touched on it a little bit. Glenn Beck brought it out on his show before he was fired from Fox that they found a stone up in, I think it was Ohio. I think it was some type of Los Lunar Stone, some kind of stone that they found amongst the old Native American ruins. think it was part of where they found the mound builders. Okay. Those, that, that, that, that, uh, rock or that, uh, artifact was, had paleo-Hebrew written on it.

Now, paleo-hebrew, um, is the language that the original Israelites spoke. All right. You had 10, you had 12 tribes total. Okay. All of them were sons of, um, Jacob, whose name was changed to Israel. real, but they all spoke Hebrew, paleo-Hebrew. Now, when the lost tribes were scattered after they went into captivity, they came, wherever they went, they took with them artifacts that, you know, describe who they were.

And that Los Lunastone is another one, is another artifact that proves that they are, The Native Americans are of the tribe of Israel. Now, here's why I mentioned to you earlier that you can't take part of the Bible and leave another part of it out. The Old Testament and the New Testament have a gap of about 400 years between them. The reason that is because the part that filled in the gap, they took it out. Okay? Because that part of the Bible called the Prochper tells you how the 10-Ly, tribes got over here to America.

They didn't come across the Bering Strait. When they were let out of captivity from the Assyrian captivity, you got to remember that Israel was split into two kingdoms, the northern kingdom and the southern kingdom. The northern kingdom consisted of the 10th tribe, Ifah, Manasa, Ruvim, Simeon, Gad, Asher, Napdali, Isakar. those tribes and Zebulon is a car yeah and that's thali so

those tribes when they went into captivity the southern tribe which was Judah Benjamin and Levi they weren't in captivity okay they were still over there in their homeland in Jerusalem Judah but the 10 tribes the northern kingdom would disobey God's

commandment and this is then if you want to if you want to back me up or prove them telling the truth, go to the Second King. It'll tell you that. The Northern Kingdom went off as far as obeying God's commandments. So God sent them into captivity. So the Assyrians captured the Northern Kingdom and took them into captivity. When they were released out of captivity, they talked among themselves and said, we're not going to go back where we came from. We're going to go to a further land, another land. And they got in both and came over here. to the Americas. Now, that is explained in the

apocrypha. But again, the apocrypha was taken out so nobody knows it. But it's in there. Second Kings tells you that the Northern Kingdom, those are the ten tribes that went into captivity. The apocrypha comes back and tells you, okay, well, they got out of captivity. This is what they did. They got invoked and they came over here and it took them a year and a half. If you want me to, I'll read it for you. But it's in the Apocrypha. It's in Second Kings and the Apocrypha tells you how the northern tribes got over here. Now, the northern tribes, which had been called the 10 lost tribes, they weren't lost. The Bible

tell you where they were. They weren't lost. They were here. But the conquerors of this land are the ones that write the history of this land. This land was conquered by the European, beginning with Columbus in 1492. He didn't discover America. He invaded America. In fact, he knew where it was because he read the apocrypha, and he knew how to get over here by reading the apocrypha. That's why he brought three Hebrew translators with him when he came over here to the Americas in 1492. Look it up. He had three Hebrew translation. Why would you bring Hebrew translators? If you don't expect the people to live in that land you're going to to speak Hebrew. So your theory is absolutely positively correct.

They are, the tribes that were over here in the Americas were the 10 lost tribes of Israel. They were indigenous to this land because they had been here since before the time of Christ. So you're right. You're absolutely right. And the Bible backs up what your theory is. It backed it up. Now, now, remember now, you just said, that a lot of the Native Americans don't want to listen to you.

They don't want to hear what you have to say. They don't want to acknowledge anything that you bring up about that because you have to remember now, some people that are conquered tend to want to believe only what their conqueror tells them is correct. So if you got back and say that, wait a minute, man, wait, wait, you guys came from over here. This is what these artifacts say that you guys spoke this language and you had to come from over there.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, the Catholic church or whatever church or the Christians or whatever group that conquered us, told us this is what we come from. We come from China. We came across the Bering Strait. That's not what the book says, and that's not how, that doesn't make, that doesn't explain the fact that you got different groups. all speaking paleo-Hebrew, all up and down from North America, Canada, all the way down to South America and Peru. And where they built those pyramids,

it looked just like the ones that built in Egypt. Okay? So that doesn't explain. The Bering Strait doesn't explain that. Nobody in China, if they came over from China on the Bering Strait, those people that came over there, they never built any pyramids over there in China, not like they did in Egypt. That would explain that while a lot of the tribes down in South America and Central America, they don't look Asian.

They don't look like Chinese. You know, they got, they got woolly hair. If you look at all the old pictures of them, they got woolly hair and the dark skin and have, for the most part, negroid features. Okay. So they didn't come from, they couldn't come over from China. Now, the fact that you have in Native Americans, you had two types of Native Americans on this continent when Columbus arrived. You had the Negro-Shenotype and you had the Mongoloid phenotype. The reason why they have two different types is because before they left and went into captivity,

Gad, which is one of the tribes of Israel, and Rubin bordered on Ammon and Moab. Amin and Moab became what you now call the the Japanese and the Chinese. Well, if you border on a country, some of the people that live close to that border are going to have children by people on the other side of the border. So when you go in the captivity, you're going to take your kids that look like those other people with you.

He ain't going to leave behind. So that's why when they got over here, you had some Native American tribes that look Mangalore, but for the most part, most of them look Negroes, you know, the Florida Seminoes, the paw monkey, the parmanky tribes. You know, a lot of the tribes over here that were here when Columbus got here, a lot of them looked like, if you go over, look at all the old paintings that they have

from the 15 and 1600s, they were dark skin with woolly hair. So you had two different types of Native Americans over here when Columbus arrived here. However, that has been ripped out of history because the people that are constantly, this land didn't want that part of history told. They didn't want that exposed. But yes, they are the part of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel. Yeah, it's right. And they came over here. Yeah, it's fascinating you say that. Because, you know, I've said that before, and a lot of Native Americans get really irate. And I'm like, well, I can't prove it on paper. I'm not trying to offend you. It's just a theory, just a dumb theory I had. And, but what's interesting is one Native American I talked to you down

in the southwest. He told me that I was spot on with what I, what is saying. And he said, you know, the giants in the Lovelock caves were not Sasquatch. And I go, what do you mean? Because they weren't animals. They were the Nephilim. And he said, when the Nephilim left Canaan, everyone thinks Israelites wiped out all the Nephlem. That's not true. They scattered. They got to the point where they were realized they were going to lose and they scattered. And he said they came over here, and some of the lost tribes followed them over here, and he said, we knew exactly what we were killing in the Lovelock caves. Those weren't Sasquatches. And some of these giants you see over here, he says, like, when you dig up the old bones and you can go look at some of the old

articles, he said, where do you think those things came from? They scattered from the land of Canaan came here for refuge. Then when the Native Americans showed up, or the lost tribes of Israel showed up, they'd already dealt with them. They already knew how to deal with them. They already knew how to kill them. They already knew they'd seen this movie before. And so they unleashed hell on these things and they killed them. And I thought that was fascinating. I really thought that was fascinating. I'd never heard that before. You know, I just thought it was some dumb theory I've been thinking about. And when he said that, I was like, you know what, that's fascinating. Because where did all these giants come from? Why are we digging up all these giants, you know, in Ohio and

and, you know, Buffalo, New York, and all these other places. Why are we digging up these giants? Where did these giants come from? And then when he said that to me, they ran from Canaan to get away from them, and they caught up with them. I don't know what your feelings on that or not. And, again, I can't prove that on paper, but I thought it was fascinating, fascinating conversation anyway. Right, right. You can prove that the Ten Laugh's tribe that came over here on paper and in the book on paper.

paper is made out of paper you can prove that your theory is right so that's out you know don't there's no uh I can't prove this anymore you can prove it you know just go just just just get you an apocrypha or get you a 16 a king 16 11 Bible that has apocrypha already in it and it's in there it explains exactly um you know how the 10 lost tribes got over here as far as the giants being over here before the 10 lost tribes got here. I don't think that they got here before them. I think that they came over here with them. I think they came over with them because you have to remember now,

Israel will spread to all parts of the earth. Israel will spread everywhere. They were scattered everywhere. So it's not far-fetched to think that when they scattered everywhere, that they would make everywhere, everywhere they went. They made it with someone or whatever land that they were in, whatever people were in that land, they made it with them. I think personally, and I'm working on trying to prove it with documentation to back it up

and the scriptures, I'm working on that. That's my next project. But I think personally that the giants that were over here were over here because they came, Either they came over with the 10 tribes of Israel or their DNA was in the 10 lost tribes, one of the other. But I don't think they were here before the 10 tribes got here because the scriptures say that nobody dwelt over here before the 10 lost tribes got here. Now, King Solomon had a Navy and it was a cap. It was run by Tyree and Saidan, which are what you call the Omex. They were Africans.

And they were captains of Solomon's Navy. And he sent them over here doing his reign. Okay. This is before the Northern Kingdom split up. During his reign, he had a Navy, and he sent them over here to get exotic spices, chickens, peacocks, whatever. He sent them over here to pick up things and bring them back to Israel for his palace. And he sent his Navy over here, which was captained by the Africans.

Wherever they went, Tyree and Saidan, which are the Africans at that time, wherever they went, they left stone markers everywhere they went in his Navy. That's why you have those statues down there that look African called the Olmec Statute. the Omech heads, that they didn't stay here because the scripture says this is a area, this is a land where no man dwelt before. You can come here, you can take up stuff, and you can go back and leave, but you didn't dwell here. Nobody dwelt here before the 10 tribes got here.

That's what the book said. So that's why I believe they didn't come over before the 10 tribes. However, I'm looking for, you know, archaeological evidence that proves that they, you know, back up what the scripture says. I haven't got yet, but that's what the scripture says. And so far, the scriptures have never been wrong. So I'm going to go with that. But that's, that, that, that's, that's, that's, that's what this book says.

That's, but they were here. They were here. But exactly when they got here, I don't know exactly when, either they came with the tribes or they came after trials, but they were here. Because they, the Smithsonian Institute has a lot of statues that are 12 foot tall and they don't want anybody to see them. They got them buried. in the basement at the bottom somewhere.

Why, you know, they got pictures of them being dug up, but as long as you can't touch it right now, it doesn't exist. Even though you got a picture from 1889 that shows some people digging up a giant 12-foot statue and a six-foot tall man standing right next to it, but because you can't put your hands on that statue right now, it doesn't exist, according to mainstream society. It doesn't exist. So there were no giants.

But, again, you've seen it with your own eyes. But that's what the script is. It's a fascinating, fascinating conversation. I literally could talk for the next, like, two hours on this. There's so many things I want to get to, but I'm assuming some of the audience checked out at this point. But Dallas, I got to have you back. I think it's fascinating. I think the whole conversation is fascinating, especially with Native American history.

And some natives get upset when he say that. Some natives will buy into it. I will say most of them don't like to hear that. And that's okay. You know, again, I haven't done the research you've done, so I can't really argue the point. It's just a theory I have. But I'm definitely going to research it and look into those Apocrypha books, especially you brought up with the ones with the red eyes and hairy beasts. And I think that's fascinating.

I really want to read that. But I really appreciate you coming on and coming on again. You know, I'd have you back any time, Dallas. I really enjoy talking to you. You know, true, correct history. Troop in general is always fascinating. It gives you a window into the future when you have the correct information, and you have correct scriptures that back up what you're saying.

When you have knowledge, they say knowledge is power. There's a difference between getting an education and being indoctrinated. Most of us have been indoctrinated with information that is not, as far as the history of America, history of things that have gone on. The reason why you get an opposition from a lot of the Native Americans is because there was a thing called the Great Forgetting. The scriptures say that the tribes were discontinued from their heritage,

which means they didn't know who they were. Now, if you go from 770 BC up to, 19 2018 that's a lot of time well let's just go back to 1492 that's a lot of time that has passed from 770

BC to 1492 AD that's a lot of time that has gone by and a lot of the Native Americans were discontinued from the heritage they didn't know who they were they had lost a lot of them had lost their heritage they stopped their practices

they didn't keep their promises, like they said, they were going to come over here and stick to the Lord's law, of statutes and commandments. They didn't do that. They started that same old idol worships that they did when they were in captivity amongst the Assyrians, because the Assyrians worshiped a lot of false gods. Well, they brought those traditions with them when they came over here instead of sticking to the law of statute of commandments, which is a disobedient.

When you disobey God's law, he'll take your heritage and just yank it from you. And now you don't even know who you are. you don't know what tribe of Israel you're from. You know, you don't know how you got here. We've just been here. We don't know how we got it. We just been here. Well, no, that's why you have to go back and do your research on the book.

And especially whatever research you do, and I'll leave you with this, whatever research you do, whatever books you read, whatever artifacts you dig up, you've got to get your Bible out. and follow along with it and see if it follows along the lines of the Bible, because the Bible is the only book that has an historical record, an accurate historical record, and a prophetic record of what has to do with the nation of Israel and everything that happens around it. And that's why you have to filter whatever you get, whatever knowledge you get, you've got to filter through the Bible because that's the only way you're going to know what's correct and what's incorrect.

You've got to filter it through the scripture. God's Holy Word is the only book that was inspired by the creator that does not think the way we think, that is higher. He's thinking it's higher than we are. Our science and technology is nothing to him. So it's the only book that you can make sure that you're following. you're falling along the right line of progress and research, and I'll leave you with that. Well, I appreciate you coming on.

You're welcome. You're welcome. And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. Until next time, everyone. Being across the country faster than the coronavirus and wagering week is your antidote. I'm Tom Barton, and I'm a veteran sports analyst and respected sports handicapper who will help build ESP.

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