Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:39 Monster of the Woods

Episode Date: July 8, 2014

A listener writes, "It was getting dark and grandma was cleaning up dinner and she called us to stop playing and come in close to the camper-trailer. Grandpa came running around the truck and he was screaming and yelling for us to get in side. Grandpa was moving fast, I have never seen him move like that before. He ran into the camper came out with his shotgun, and he jumped out of the camper, cocked his gun, screamed to my Grandma to get us in the camper, and lock the door. I do believe Grandma saw what Grandpa was yelling about. She garbed us and threw us in the camper then put us in the back of the camper on the top bunk and covered us up with a blanket. well that is where the screaming came in because what ever it was it grabbed our camper right where me and my sister were and it was screaming and we were screaming. It was only inches from us but above us and we could hear it screaming in our chest, we stayed under the blanket. It started to push us over or push us into the lake. The camper started to move forward as it was rocking back and forth and it was grandpa driving us out of there and saving us. I do believe it was trying to hold on the the camper as we pulled away. Grandpa was driving quite fast to get out of the area. It took for ever to get out of there it was a long dirt road. When we got to the small store He got out called for help and Grandpa told the men that were there what had happened to us and he showed them the camper and the two hand prints where it was hanging on to us as we pulled away. we left everything there grandma did not want to go back and get our stuff we just went home."

When I had come down the cell, I had seen this creature cross the road. It would have ripped my locked door from my truck, extracted me from my vehicle, and there wouldn't have been a damn thing I could have done about it. Look, this thing I got to notice in its eyes. His eyes was real, real evil, real sinister looking. You know, the look it was giving me. What are you reporting? What on now, sir?

That's sort of a bitch is about six foot. Yes, I'm looking right here. Welcome to Bigfoot hotspot Radio, Sasquatch Chronicles. I'm your host, Wes, along with my brother Woody, and researcher, author, and friend, William Jeffey. Let's start the show. I just got off the phone with this guy from Australia, Jamie, and I'm going to have him on the next show.

I mean, this guy has a hell of an account. He's been a long-time listener, really, really nice guy. And his account, well, I'll wait to have him on the show to tell his account, but he's got a pretty good account. I mean, the guy, he's got an area where they seem, it almost kind of seems like the same type of area that me and Woody were at. It seems like they're coming down off this ridgetop. And I'll have to have Monty.

He's a pretty interesting guy. He's a real nice guy, and he's got a really cool account. And along with that show, we'll have a police officer. I'll probably change his name and his location for his identity purposes. But it's another interesting account. They did like a Finding Bigfoot thing. he was out banging on trees and he was doing his best big foot calls. Yeah, and he got a big surprise.

Yeah, he got a big surprise. They ended up coming in and he just did it mainly. He wasn't really a big believer in it. He was just more or less entertaining his kids. And it was all fun of games to one. Not only one showed up, but several showed up. And it was a terrifying account when I read it. I mean, I can't wait to talk to this guy.

But like I said, it's all jokes. It's all fun in games. And until you actually see one, until one actually shows up. And a lot of people sure change their tunes on. And I don't mean this place officer. I just mean I was talking to Jamie. And, you know, a lot of people were giving him a hard time. And he's always trying to get them to go up to the spot with them.

And I was telling him the same thing. You know, it's all fun in games. People, you know, it's all jokes until one shows up. Right. I'm telling you, you play a fire. you might get burned. You're out there banging on trees and doing calls, and you never know.

I mean, one might actually show up, you know. Exactly. You know, if it is just for funning games and one does show up, then what do you do? Because, you know, especially if it's someone that doesn't really, I don't know anything about this officer, but if they didn't believe in it to begin with, and they've not only got to deal

with the sudden arrival, but the reality that they exist on top of it. it so you're double dose yeah one thing I found fascinating about both of these accounts is the fascinating part is they both talk about this jibber I know the police officer talked about that and also Jamie talked about that it's almost like they both of them it said they they heard this almost like another language like Russian or it's real fast and they they can tell us it sounds like two people talking but they can't quite understand what's being

said, and I think that's something I'm going to start looking into on this whole jibber that you tend to hear from people. Yeah, I'm really interested in that. Ever since I first heard, you know, just bits and pieces of the Sierra sounds, I know that they're probably talking about a different type of, I guess, gibberish, but even in that, you can hear it sounds like a back-and-forth conversation. One's mad, one's not. it's really creepy and I never in my encounter I never witnessed anything like that at all

yeah no and I and I didn't either you know what the sounds was odd about the this gibber that you hear the only part about the Sierra sounds I've always kind of had a hard time with and I've interviewed Ron Moorhead and I mean I think he's as honest as they come I don't think he has any reason to usually you can smell it a mile away and I just don't sense that about him that he's any of this has made out. But the hard part about the Sierra sounds, if you listen to the first CD, it sounds like monkeys gibbering back and forth.

If you listen to the second CD, it sounds like, almost like another language. It sounds like people. It does. And that's the only part of that Sierra sounds. I've always had a hard time with. Why is CD1 this monkey gibber, and why is CD2, sound like people

out there talking? That's always been my question. So, the one thing I couldn't understand. and, you know, how did it change from, there's no comparison to the first recording in the second. No. I mean, there's none. There's none. I don't mean to go off on the Sierra sounds.

It's just people report this gibber. And I'd sure like to know what is that they're hearing. Is it like the Sierra sounds on CD number two? We'll have to ask both these guests when they come on. I'm curious, maybe I'll play the sounds for them. I do. That is great. I think so ought to do that.

Yeah. And just see if it even compares, you know, to what they heard. But I was telling Jamie to be careful out there. Those YOWAs, they, I'm telling you, I've heard way too many bad stories about those YOWAs. They seem to have bad, worse than what we have here in North America. They seem to have worse attitudes and be more aggressive. See, I have to admit, I don't know nearly as much about them. I'm starting, you know, to read a little bit lately, but I don't know diddly compared to what, you know, I know.

the Fed they can hear in America. Yeah, they seem to be a little bit more quick-tempered. They seem to be a little bit more violent. They seem to be more prone to aggressive-type behavior. Jamie hasn't experienced that from what he was telling me. Well, I don't know about that, but he, not as quite as aggressive as I've heard some encounters. I mean, some of the encounters out there are just like, Jesus, man. These are like monkeys on steroids with bad attitude, you know?

Exactly. Exactly. Just some of the things I read this last week, yeah, I pretty much like we hear about, you know, some of the dog-based types, you know, down in the south, even more so. They're just not scared of much from what I'm reading. Yeah, and I had another guy from Australia,

send me these dog man tracks. These tracks are pretty, I mean, God, they're pretty good tracks. And it does kind of, I just, disagree that it's actually half man half dog out there running around. I still think it's a primate. Oh, yeah. Agree with me or not. Exactly.

The tracks kind of do look kind of in between what you would see a Bigfoot track and kind of what you'd picture a dog. It's a real weird looking track. It's funny. Do you ever watch after hours with Richter? It's weird that you said that because I just watched a little bit of that this afternoon. Was that the one I posted on Facebook? I want to try to catch a couple others. Yeah, a lot of people in the Bigfoot community

that don't like Richter. I don't know if it's because he's gay or he's a little flamboyant. He's actually a really nice guy. I've talked to him several times on Facebook. And he's actually, yeah, he's actually a really nice guy. I actually like Ricker. He's a pretty funny guy. And he's actually a pretty, just a genuinely nice guy.

He really is a good guy. And I actually like him. his show. If you actually watch his show on YouTube, he puts a lot of effort into the show, into the editing. He does it with Tammy. She does a little sweet, fancy glass. But they did that interview with Todd, the staff sergeant Todd Ness when he was over in Oregon. And the place that they're actually talking about, so people who haven't seen this episode with Richter, basically he interviews this Todd. I think it's Ness, forgive me, Todd. Forgive me, Todd. It is.

It is. It is. It was a lot of your last name. But he, so the, they were out, the Army Corps of Engineers were out blasting away at this. It was private land. It's, it's a lumber company's land. And they were blasting away at the hillside. And they had three different spots that they were blasting away, doing training exercises.

He ended up seeing three Sasquatches. And not only did he see it, but four other soldiers saw it. But if people get a chance, go check it out. It's after hours with Richter. Great interview. Great witness. I'm kind of jealous he got to him before we did. I would have, I would have loved to, and I'd probably still ask him to call on.

I thought the same thing. Yeah. Love to have him on. He had such a good job at describing, describing what he saw. No, and right down to the, you know, just talking about that 25 seconds, you can just really feel it that he is so genuine when he's telling the story. Tammy was asking him, you know, did you guys not have binoculars? I mean, she was asking a lot of the same questions I would have asked. And I really liked a lot of it.

I mean, he didn't budge it one bit. He just answered the questions and he wasn't. Exactly. It was a good interview. So our first guest is John. John sent us an email and he's had a couple different encounters with Sasquatch. Some of them, you know, there weren't sightings, but he wanted to talk about some of his different experiences that he's had with it. After this, we'll bring Tandy on.

Tandy's got a hell of a story. She's got a hell of the story. It's a great story. But before we get to Tandy, let's bring John on and let's hear his encounters. I was looking through the different encounters that you had sent us, and I was wondering if you'd kind of go through them with us on a chronological order, I was pretty fascinated by the different experiences that you had and wanted to have you on the show and have you talk about it.

And so with that, I was wondering if you could start at the first experience that you had. I believe it was around September. I think it was 1976. And my reason I say that is because my sister, a friend down the street and I were doing the long jump

and I think we were imitating what we saw with the Olympics. So I'm guessing that's the year. We were doing the long jump in the backyard. It's about 5 o'clock. And that's, you know, dinner's around 5.30.

So my friend takes off. My sister heads in the house. I continue to practice the long jump in the backyard. We had like a stick and then a string and you had to try to clear the string and you had to try to clear the string.

and he'd move the string out further. To the east of us, I lived on a crossroads. So to the east of us, there was a street, and then this really super thick wood, they were thick for the first 40 feet. After you got past those 40 feet, you could start to see things and make your way through there. Anyway, I'm running and jumping about the fourth or fifth time.

I run and land on the ground. There's this enormous roar. It's the best way to explain it. They came out of the woods, which I'm estimating it was 40 to 50 yards. It was super loud. I just remember like, I mean, the sound was so loud. It felt like I was a tuning fork.

It just vibrated through me. I looked in that direction for a second. I did not see anything. I didn't want to see anything. And tears just flooded my eyes. I mean, I'm thinking I was eight years of age at that time. And the house was maybe 20 yards from me. So I ran as fast as I could towards the back door.

And I remember my focus as a kid. And it's so, it's like plain as a day. I remember saying to myself, you know, the storm door that was on our porch, you had to push this button with your thumb as your index fingers went through the handle. But I had a habit of pulling the door and then it felt like it was locked without pushing the button. And I was telling myself, don't mess this up, you know. Make sure you get that door open because I really felt like I was, you know, didn't have a spare second to live. made it inside the house, was crying, and my sister was there. For some reason, my parents were not home, and that was very, that was not, that hardly ever happened.

They had to be in the next town doing something. I don't know what, but I got in there and screamed Bigfoot. I mean, it was so loud that that just spontaneously came out of my mouth. And I had never heard of Bigfoot sound before my experience or knowledge of Bigfoot. And I'm not exactly sure if Leonard Nimoy and Searchup came on in 1976 or not or before or when, but that's all I think I knew of Bigfoot at the time. Yeah, it's interesting. Was it a war?

It was like a lion's war then? Or what kind of a war was it? To me, the best way to explain it, and it sounded like a roar of a lion, but it had like this depth or girth of like a elephant. It was just, it had a vibration. And you've been around people and have those cars that vibrate, you know, with the base. I mean, it shook your clothes. I mean, it felt like it shook on the body of me.

I've heard that before. I've heard that war before. And I heard it from a way farther distance on what you're talking about. And it still shook me. And Woody and I went back up to the spot. I know I've told this before. But we heard it sounded like a lion going on, like just a lion's war. But it was almost like, like you said, like you can almost feel it as it.

Yeah. Yeah, it definitely got my attention, and it was loud. To my knowledge, I don't know if anybody else heard it. I kind of dismissed all this stuff because I was pretty, you know, shook up about it. My mom told my brother. My brother, he moved out of the house, experienced outdoors, man. He loves to even hunt to this day with a, you know, a bone arrow. But he told me that was a deer.

So being a young boy looking up to an older brother, you're just like, oh, okay. And so I wrote it off throughout my, pretty much my whole adulthood. And I think it was probably, it was about three years ago, I started just, you know, putts around the internet. And, you know, you're like, wow, there's a lot of information on here. And I think I typed in Bigfoot or something like that and started to read reports and read a report about, you know, Ohio and of all places because that's where this happened. And I couldn't believe that how many reports were in Ohio. And I'm like, this can't be. That's what triggered that whole memory to come back into my head.

You start reading other reports. You're just like, wow, could this really – that's the thing that's hard for me to really grasp is that this really could be in a small town. I lived out about a half mile outside the city limits, but it's still hard to believe that that could happen. Now, you know, you start thinking about why does that thing work me? And that's kind of being presumptionist, or, you know, it's assuming that it was roaring at me. It could have roared at anything because, like I said, it was a crossroad. It was, you know, it was shortly after 5 o'clock. That's probably the busiest time that road is going to be, in my opinion.

And we did have some apple trees. There were two really good apple trees between me and where that roar came from. And to my knowledge, I rode my bike all the time as a boy. And I don't know if anybody else had that many apple trees within a mile radio. I could be assuming a little too much, but I would say for sure, for a half-mile radius. I know that for sure. But, I mean, it could have been, you know, hungry and just eager for me to go in, or there could have been something else that happened on the street that I wasn't even aware of.

I think the war is an aggressive, I mean, I'm theorizing, but I think it's an aggressive, you know, like a go-away or, you know, kind of see how big and bad I am. It's funny I was in a talking about different noises that they make, and were, you know, a lot of people trying to theorize why they make different noises. And I was in a working in the lumberyard and I was in the warehouse. And it's loud in there. And so there's four cliffs running back and forth. And it was kind of funny.

So to get what they do to get people's attention in the warehouse is they go whoop. And I asked one of the guys who said, is that a big foot thing? Why are you doing that? And they just kind of looked at me puzzled like, why do you think that's a big foot thing? That's just what we do to get each other's attention. And so, you know, it's kind of a... Some of the things, you know, maybe monkey see, monkey do, it's not so hard to figure out why they make different noises.

You know, maybe the whoop is kind of like, hey, I'm over here. It's so funny you say that. No, it's funny you say that because I live in Southern California now, and surfers will do that with each other. Some have, they have different noises, but if you're dropping in on someone else at surf, and they go, who! I didn't realize, I just totally forgot about that

because they're letting you know, like, hey, that's my way back off anyway. Right. Yeah. Yeah, it's like the guys in the warehouse to get each other's attention or, you know, because everyone's wearing earplugs and so they'll cross from the warehouse, you'll hear, whoop. And I'm like, why are they doing Bigfoot calls?

And no one knew, no one had a clue what I was talking about. They're like, Bigfoot calls. That's just how we get each other's attention. I guess primates aren't too far apart. Listen to a lot of the sounds on YouTube of, you know, Bigfoot's, and that freaks me out. I don't want to listen to it. So I just, I'm just like, I back off and just, I mean, that's how afraid I am of any of the research. I respect you guys immensely for doing anything other than doing it all.

Your experiences, I'm surprised you guys are, what would I say, institutionalized. That would scare me. I love your show, and I love it. I think I told you that it's entertaining. It's intriguing, but it's therapeutic for me to listen and go, okay, okay. And to be able to share my story with you guys helps me to realize someone believes me because my wife thinks, okay, you're crazy. And I'm like, hey, I would think anybody else is crazy too if they talk about it. But when your memory's triggered from that, you're like, okay, this really did happen.

One night, I was just kind of, you know, I'm a heavy-duty sleeper. I've always been, I sleep so hard through the night. and as a kid, probably more so. But one night I remember waking up, just, you know, feel with fear. I looked out my window, and my window was pretty high off the ground, or not high off the ground. I was on the ground level of our house.

But I looked out my window. My curtains were always closed, so the moon must have been out that night, but there was something that felt like there was a mountain in front of my window. And it's scared. And whatever it was, I was scared. and I'm, Jesse and I was about the same age, maybe a little younger or older. I just don't remember, but I remember just hunkering underneath the sheets and, you know, praying because I was scared. Because at that time, at that moment I thought, man, there's something big out there.

This is probably Bigfoot. I planted my foot on the ground and then hustled to my dad's room, my mom and dad's room. But I got down there and I'm like, well, what am I going to tell them, you know? And I want to be a man because I'm probably in junior high age about that time. built up the courage, came back to my room, and there was nothing there. I remember just kind of, I turned the light on first, and then I turned it back off thinking that's stupid, because now, you know, I'd give in the way that I'm in there. You know, eventually pulled the curtains and looked out.

There was nothing there. I don't know. It's just still hard for me to believe. It could have been wintertime. I really can't remember. If it had been wintertime, I'd have gone up there in a footprint. I know that. When you were looking at it, you said it looked like a mountaintop, like it at a peak?

Like, it was a... Or when you say mountaintop, are you describing something just huge? The best way for me to describe it is, I'll give you the dimensions of the window, the best my knowledge is. You know, the window seemed about like it was like four feet wide and maybe at the most, you know, four feet across, two feet down. And as a... And if you were to stand up to it now as an adult,

I would say that the window seal edge, it probably comes about your chest. So it was a high window that when you opened it, it just kind of, it swung open a little bit. And, you know, every night I pulled my curtains. I didn't want to look outside. I was kind of afraid of the dark, I guess. The best way to describe it is there was only a little bit of light coming through the very top corners. So, yeah, it was kind of like almost like a mountain, I guess, is the best way to say.

It's a big triangle. Did you ever talk to your family about it? Did you ever say, hey, something was at my window? I don't think I said anything to my dad because I think at that time I was just, you know, I didn't want to be. you know like a scared of cat kid so I kind of kept that one to myself because I believe I was in junior high I don't know I could have been a little bit younger but never said anything

no I probably should have when I start thinking about all this stuff I start to get scared and I'm glad I don't live in Ohio because I know I would be curious and I would probably be trying to figure it a little bit more out I live in Southern California to my knowledge there's not a lot of big foot action here in my neighborhood

and I'm happy about that Now, going back to this family farm, did you ever talk to, have you talked to your folks since then or talked to your brother since then? And said, hey, man, you have. There's some stuff going on. My dad, he's passed away. But my mom, I don't think I really have brought it up to her. I mean, I really don't think she would, it would be interesting to talk to my dad, though,

because I think he would listen to me. I should have. But I have talked to my older brother, told him about those, you know, those experiences. And I said, man, I think you should really do some research. He lives in Utah now, and he loves to go blow hunting out in the sticks by himself. And I'm like, you really ought to think it through. And I told him a little bit about my experience. And I do have another experience in Southern Ohio I can tell you about it.

I told him that. And he was like, wow, you're trying to scare me. And I'm like, just be smart. That's what I told him. And I, you know, talk or listening to your show, one thing, I don't know if you guys pat yourself on the back at all or something like this. but you've cautioned enough people, and I don't know how many listeners you have, but you guys may have saved a lap or two just by creating a certain amount of caution for people that are ignorant of the subject or want to see one because for a while,

I was like, man, I'd like to see another one, but now I'm like, I don't want to. Appreciate that, John. It's funny. Ramon I were just talking about on the next show we're going to have this police officer on, and they were out banging on trees, and doing their best big foot calls. And just all in fun and games. And it was all fun in games until three of them showed up

and circled their camp. And it's a crazy story, but, you know, just try and tell people. It's not what I saw wasn't your friendly forest giant. What I saw wasn't something we've messed around with by any means. I appreciate the kind words though very much. And we all appreciate the kind of words. And the only other thing I'll say about North Central Ohio in this town, I remember about 10 years later, you know, you're out of high school and such. But friends and I, we'd gather there in the summer and we'd camp out at the northern end of this town.

There was an eight or ten-year-old boy that he refused to camp out with us. And his name was Sam, and I haven't talked to him forever. But I remember him saying, don't go in those woods over there at night. and this is at least two to three miles from where I lived. He said there was like a boogeyman in there and we just laughed at him. But his older brother was like, no, he's serious. There's something in those woods. I mean, we've talked to him about that.

So it's hard to believe that something like that could even be migraine around Ohio because where I live, there's a lot of cornfields and then there's like checkerboards of wooded area. So, I don't know. There's enough report on the Ohio that's. possible. Yeah, it can happen. I mean, I live in Kentucky, and that's where my experience was back in the 70s. I don't think we had the population that the Pacific Northwest does, but that it absolutely happens from time to time. I don't know if we have an actual population or if it's migration, but yeah, we have lots of reports here out of Kentucky, and I know of several in Ohio

recently. I have a question that you guys could answer. Has anyone done a lot of research on how the deer migrate in certain areas of the country. I mean, you could pick Ohio or Kentucky, but to me, that would kind of give you a clue to Sasquatch's food source. It's an idea. I don't know of one. I do believe they're like any other wild animal that they're opportunists, whether it be following, you know, the berries, if they come right, they may hunt.

I think that just depends on the migration of whatever food. after at the time. I think I know you're on with that, John. Follow the deer and you can follow the Sasquatch. I've thought about that too. Yeah, I've thought about that too before. A lot of areas here in the Washington State where you'll find a lot of deer, there's coincidentally a lot of Sasquatch sightings.

So, I mean, you may be onto something there. I think there's a little bit more to it than that. I think that that's a big factor, though. I've definitely, it's crossed my mind, though. Follow the deer and you'll find the Sasquatch. but I think you've got to have the water, you've got to have the cover. Yeah. I'm convinced that they switch up high on ridge tops.

I mean, I've just heard way too many encounters of them coming off ridgetops at night. You know, it's not a bad thing to look into. I've definitely crossed my mind before. Because, I mean, I like to think every state they have deer crossings. At least they have the signs on the road where deer happened to cross. So they figured that much out. But anyway, it's a thought. the very last experience

I talked about would be in southern Ohio I mean do you want me there's a place in southern Ohio right off the right I mean it's called a hanging rock great mountain bike trail or motorcycle trails and my friends

we would go down there first week in May every year because there were ponds everywhere and there were mountain bike trails and we would camp and we'd get lost and have a great time and it just became a tradition to do this every May we go there and we get there at night and we get our favorite site, which is in between two ponds on our ridge, and we're like, great, man, we got to our spot.

You know, we got there pretty late, and there was nobody camping there, which is strange for us because there's always other campers making noise there, and they're doing the same thing we're doing. Some of them have motorcycles. Some don't. But anyway, have a good time, make our food, go to sleep. I don't know what time, but around 2 a.m. or 3 a.m.,

I'm not exactly sure what time it was. I didn't check a watch. I'm awakened by the sounds of large splashing sounds. I hear it, and I wake up thinking, all right, someone's down there fishing, but they're throwing something large into the pond. It just goes, splash, and then there's just silence. I don't hear any voices, so I'm thinking, well, no one else is camping here. What could that be?

So I mind, I start to doze off to sleep. You hear a splash again, you wake up, and I'm thinking, maybe it's catfish. Maybe they're just jumping up and splashing, but I've never seen that happen, but that's what my mind's telling me. And then I almost do it off. I know there's splash happens.

And so I started thinking, maybe it's bear cubs. I mean, I don't know. That's what my, at the sound of the splash, maybe you think it's a bear cub jumping in this pond. It eventually stops,

and I fall asleep. And then, I don't know how long I slept, but I'm awakened by the sound of something sniffing, going around the tent that me and my friend are in, and then there's a, there's a Volkswagen van that two of the guys are sleeping in, but the sniffing isn't like, it isn't like dog sniffing, it's just like, you know, a couple,

but I don't hear any big thumps on the ground. I wish I could say there were, but I don't, I don't hear that, but I hear this. And it just circles a tent, maybe, I don't want to exaggerate it, at least three times, maybe four, and my roommate Everett at the time, he's just snore. And he's making a lot of noise. He's snoring, but I didn't want to wait from up. I'm thinking whatever's outside is going to realize we're sleeping, I'm sleeping.

He doesn't know what's inside the tent, just knows something's sleeping. So I'm thinking it'll pass by. It just keeps circling. It's getting closer and closer. So as it's making what I call the last round, it's about at my feet, and it feels like it's about three feet from my feet. So there's a pocket knife about a foot from my shoulder on my left. So I'm reaching over for it.

and as I get within like six inches of grabbing this pocketknife it's the only protection I got, I don't know what it is out there, but I'm thinking I'll put it between my fingers. If it comes to the tent, I'll punch it, and at least it'll feel a little stank, because that's all I had. That was my thoughts. But as soon as I'm six inches from grabbing that,

this thing is now about a foot outside the tent. I can hear it sniffing. It brings one big sniff, and it feels like it's about, 18 to maybe, yeah, 18 inches for my face because it's like it's right there and in the tent. That's all there is. And I'm laying on my back. It stops and all of a sudden it just lets out this deep snarl like like something like that.

But it was deep. It didn't shake me like that. How? But it woke my friend up. I didn't, I did not move. I was frozen. I don't even know if I breathe. I mean, I did not want to make a move because, you know,

sleeping bags make those little noises if you move, just the slightest amount. Did it sound like with Timmon from up above you at ground level there, or was it around, you know, was it like an animal that you would think would be on all four legs crawling, or was it up higher than that? Could you tell from the sound? I would say it was about, I'm laying on my back, so my guess is probably about knee level. But it did, like, sniff right, like it sniffed, correct. right before I was just about ready to grab that.

Like, you knew what I was going to do. I don't know. And this is right after you hear all the splashing going on, right? Uh-huh. So what happens is it lets out that big snarl. I didn't breathe. My roommate was sleeping in the tent. He didn't breathe at all.

He stopped breathing, or snoring, I should say. The thing outside didn't breathe or didn't snore. After that snarl, it just stayed. And all three of us were, like, frozen for, like, 30 seconds. and then it made a couple sniffed and then just left. And so my friend and I just laid in the tent for like 15 minutes. We just wanted to make sure whatever it was was gone. It could have been longer.

I don't know, but we lay there. Did you hear it, you know, as it walked away from camp? I mean, could you hear any foots falls then? No. No. I mean, at that moment, I thought it was a, you know, a big wolf or something. My friend and I, we laid there and I go, what do you think that was? us. He says, I have no idea. But we wanted to hear what the guys in the van thought it was,

because they could see out their van, and they never heard a thing. They kind of laughed at us. They were like, no, come on. And we went looking for tracks, like either bare tracks, or we didn't find anything. It was the last time we ever camped there, we never went back, and it was weird that no one else was camping there that year. I would have never, I would, it's suspect if it is Bigfoot, but I would have never linked it if I wouldn't have heard other stories of other people camping. and they hear something splashing across the river or whatever it is, and then they actually see it, and then they pack up in the nave. But it's interesting. Yeah, definitely.

Yeah, it is. It's very interesting for a wild animal's behavior to circle the tent, keep sniffing, and then snarl and then leave. You know, most wild animals, generally speaking, won't do that. And if they're going to do that, they're going to attack. They're not going to come in and mess around. But for it to kind of, especially, No worrying.

You want to scare away a wild animal, have, like, a big guy that just snores. And most wild animals will just scatter as soon as you hear that. Well, that's interesting. I chose to let my friend ever snore because he's the kind of guy that is just like, I'm going to go out and see what that is. And I'm just like, I was afraid already because I was, I heard that splashing. That splashing was just like, what is it? Well, it's something that can.

Well, who knows? I don't know. Did the splashing sound like rock? I mean, I know it's kind of hard to tell now, and probably even at the time, did it sound like rocks, or did it sound like something was jumping into the pond? You know, it just was big, big splashes. I mean, it could have been, I don't know, it just was, it was kind of far away, but they were loud. I know that.

Well, Walt Annamore or Bigfoot, it's unnerving as hell, isn't it? Yeah, I did. For my friend, Ever to be afraid, was a telling story, because he's just one of those guys. He's not afraid of anything. Have you actually gone online to check that snarl out, see if you can pinpoint an animal that? Because gorillas will actually snarl. And I've heard other people talk about the snarl a lot like how you described it. And I remember I went online and I found, I don't have one loaded up right here, but I remember I played a couple of them.

It sounded like a gorilla, it was a gorilla snarl. And people said that's exactly what they heard. That's interesting. Yeah, I have not gone online to listen to some. snarls. The Bigfoot sounds that I have heard, I just want to shut the computer off. I'm like, dude, that freaks me out. But I'm... Yeah, it does. You see, the campers are recording it, and you're just like, what are you doing? Get out of the odds. Yeah. I remember doing this. I remember looking for tracks. Everett and I packed up. We were ready to get out of there.

And I don't know how we bumped into a ranger, but we did. I told them, I said, are there wolves or coyotes or something like that up there? because I told him my story. He's like, yeah, it was probably a pack of wolves. And I was just like, all right, man, it sounded big. I remember him telling that. And I don't have a whole lot more to share about that. I just, we never went back to cancer. I didn't want to.

Yeah, I don't blame you at all. I mean, I'm not even real comfortable in a tent anyway. Nowadays, especially after my encounter, knowing you're really in a tent, you're basically out in the open. I mean, that little thin piece of vinyl isn't going to save you. than people plastic tents or not to save you. No, I know that.

That's why the thing that was the interesting is being that tent, and when it was at my feet, I was like, it's getting closer. I'm going to get this pocket knife. And as I got within six inches of it, and I don't know if this is true, but if you're afraid, I heard you guys say that when a soft squash, if they're afraid or excited or whatever, they permeate that smell that is stink.

I mean, as humans, do we put out a... a smell of fear? I don't know or who knows. But I remember to talk to someone else and they said, yeah, dogs can pick that up. We actually put off pheromones. I think that's what dogs pick up on is that. Like I said, I don't know about a wild animal coming up there with that snoring. I mean...

It doesn't make sense, does it? Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense, but I don't want to go too far off the subject that you guys have talked about the dog man. And I've never heard of that until I heard your show. and I was like, well, maybe it was one of those. I mean, I don't know, but I really like your guys to show. I just want you to know that. I think I haven't listened to all the other stuff that's out there.

I was lucky enough to stumble upon your show and listen to it. Like I said, it's therapeutic for me, but it's still hard for me to believe that something like this could be roaming in small town, Ohio. Ohio's number two as far as sighting scale. Washington's one, Ohio's number two. But we appreciate you sharing it, man. Appreciate all the kind of words about the show and appreciate you coming on and sharing it all. I like the chill music you guys put on between the stories. That helps me relax.

Good. I think I can't put some for you. Keep it up because I could only take small doses, I think. At least I can't. Well, thanks, John. Thank you guys. I'm much for what you do. Yes.

Oh, thank you. Thank you for coming on. Yeah. Thanks so much. All right. You guys have a great week. You too, buddy. Everyone here at Bigfoot Hotspot Hot Spot Spot Radio would like to thank Audible.com.

Audible.com is the internet leading provider of audiobooks with over 150,000 different titles to choose from. To download a free audiobook of your choice, go to audibletrial.com forward slash bigbutt hotspot. Next on the show we have Chandy, and Chandy has a pretty good account. It's one I was telling you about earlier with when they're trying to leave in a motor. home and the Sasquatch grabbed the motor home. I'll let her tell the story, but it was a pretty, uh, pretty fascinating encounter. Oh, hi, Wes. Hey, how are you?

I'm good. How are you? Oh, I'm doing pretty good. I'm doing pretty good. I have Ramona on the phone with us. Oh, okay. Hi, Ramona. Hi, hi, Candy. How are you doing this evening? I'm really good. Thank you. You have a crazy account when I read it. I couldn't believe it. And I couldn't wait. I'm waiting to talk to you.

Yeah, it was, we go camping every year with my grandparents at Black Pine Lake. We camp there many times and brought dirt bikes and, you know, my uncle would go. And a lot of people would go. Sometimes people would come with us that, you know, we're friends and we'd have two campers. But this time it was just me, my sister, me, and my grandma and grandpa. And we took off and we went camping and I don't know how long we were there. And we were playing by the lake. I think we were digging in the sand.

And my grandpa started screaming because the camper was like not too far from the lake, but not too much in the trees. And he came around the truck screaming and we were looking at him. And my grandma was looking at him. and my grandma was kind of behind the camper so she could see around the other side and he was in front of the camper where the truck was and he started screaming for us to get inside. He jumped into camper, came out with his rifle, he jumped out of the camper.

I remember that cocking the gun and jumping out of the camper and then yelling for my grandma to get us inside and lock the door. And then we got inside and then as soon as she turned the lock, the camper started rocking and she grandma put us up on the top bunk in the back. These campers, they had like a window in the back

and they had two bunks in the back and she put us on the top bunk and put a blanket over us and whatever was pushing the camper was right there where our faces were and it was screaming

and our camper was rocking and my sister was screaming. I my grandma's arm was over us. She was screaming, and whatever was pushing the camper was screaming. But it was, and there was a window, and I knew there was a window there, and I didn't want to look out the window. And I just, I remember looking in my sister's eyes, and she was terrified. And we just stayed under that blanket, and then the camper was being shoved into the, like, pushing to the water. and my grandpa started pushing forward,

and it felt like we couldn't go forward, but then we started going forward, and then we went fast. We were, I don't know if you know, fish tailing. Our camper was all over that road, all the way down this dirt road, all the way back.

That was, and I never, never remembered it until my kids are running around. They're 25 and 21 now. They were running around the house and just screaming, and my oldest one was pretending to be a monster, and I just, it just flooded over me. I remembered everything like a movie.

And I thought, could this be real? I can't be imagining this. I called my sister, you know, and I was almost nauseated. I was so sick. I was faint. I was sweating. I was like, did this happen? She goes, wow.

She said, I never thought you would remember. She said, I never thought that you would ever remember that this happened. So I never brought it up. And she said, yeah, it did. It did happen. And I was like, oh, my gosh. It was crazy. And then we got to there's like a little, I would say it's a little store.

And then my grandpa pulled up there. He jumped out and started screaming for help. The guys were coming around and he was telling them what happened. And he showed them the camper where it was kind of beat in on the side. And I guess there was fingerprints. They were looking at the fingerprints, the mud where he was hanging on. I remember them looking. I couldn't see it because I was too small.

But I remember they were talking about that. And I remember the talking about it like with my uncle and with other people. It's been exciting. Just talking about it's exciting. Did your sister actually see what was coming after? No. My grandfather saw, and I do believe my grandmother saw. because my grandmother started saying,

I think she started saying Sasquatch because she said it in another kind of way. I don't know. She alluded to it. So I've always known since 8 that they were out there. They were always there. I always known because that experience that they're real and they were out there

because they were saying bears don't push trailers. And the only thing that could have been was there and they're not that big. They can't hang on to a, I mean, a big truck. It was a big camper, and we were being shoved, pushed, and then the bears don't scream. So. Can you describe the kind of scream? Was it more animal-like?

Was it female-like? Was it, I mean, what did it sound like that you remember? Well, is it so far back? I just remember that it was loud and it hurt my ears because it was right. I mean, we were inches from it, inches. Yeah. Because the back bunk was where it was hanging on to us, but it was higher. It wasn't like where our faces were.

It was higher up. You know, you could tell it was higher up. It was big. Yeah. Big. Yeah. And it was a high, I would say high pitched. That's what I was.

It was a high pitch. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder it pissed it off. Well, I don't know. We were just playing. I know we were doing a little screaming, and my grandma said, and she always said we had rules. You know, we are not to go out of the site.

We were to stay there, and we weren't to go into the woods, and we had rules when we camp. There was very strict rules, and we followed those rules. They were. But I think because we were screaming and yelling, I think we're fighting over something, as I recall. When your sister, when you called her that day, I was. those years later, did she say what she thought it was that day? Oh, she knew what it was. Yeah.

She was two years older than me, and she paid more attention to what the grownups were talking about. Yeah. And she's always known that there's been Saskatchewa. She was in Arlington, Washington, and she used to work in a bookstore. And out by Darrington, where they had the mudslide, there was a late. who swears that they come in and they, their inner property all the time. I wonder what set it off to just come after you guys like that.

And it's almost like your grandparents knew what it was and they almost kind of, I mean, I guess I'm speculating. Maybe they didn't know, but it almost kind of seems like they were like the Sasquatch getting the truck, we're out of here. That was exactly how it was. I mean, he knew, my grandma instantly put us under a blanket. She hit us, you know. she and they just like he grabbed his

his gun and I I don't I didn't see what happened I just know our camper started moving forward after it was rocking started moving forward it's it's something you know I think I just like blocked it out I blocked it out and I've always known this

they're Sasquatches because like when we drive we have family in Washington and Oregon you know I always look in the woods I always look to see if I could see one yeah because I know they're there I have no doubt in my mind that they're there. Do you ever remember your grandparents ever talking about this incident?

Yes. They did it a lot. They talked about it a lot. They never went camping after that. And I don't think where we camp was a campsite. So we never camped where there's a bunch of people around. We always had secluded campsites. That's how they like to camp.

I don't, I don't, there's no picnic tables. There wasn't, you know, there was everything that we brought. Interesting. Gosh, I just can't believe. Can you imagine the terror and the fear of this thing just going off and coming after? I wonder if you don't remember your grandfather's gun ever going off, do you? No, it didn't go off. I don't remember it going off.

No. So when they would talk about the incident, did they ever, did your grandfather or your grandmother ever allude to the fact why this thing went crazy after them or crazy after all of you? No. I didn't wasn't paying attention. I know we're talking about it, and I just ignored it. I know I just chose not to pay attention, but I think probably it was because we were in its area. I think we were in its area.

We had to have been, it just charged. He saw it coming and grabbed his gun. I don't know. Well, it was actually with a rifle. Well, I know it's speculation, but it could have been, over a lot of reasons. It could have been a female with young. It could have been a male hunting. I mean, you just don't know, but it makes a lot more sense than a regular camping area.

You know, that you were so much secluded like that. Right. That is an amazing story. Yeah, it is an amazing story. And I question myself, too, but how would somebody who never had that experience all of a sudden remember that like a movie? You know, I wanted to be truthful, so I wrote it down. and I wanted to share exactly step by step what I saw happen because it did happen. Well, and your sister, when you called her, she knew immediately what you were talking about.

Oh, yeah. It's terrifying. You know, I've heard of them going off on these little rages, like what you're talking about. Usually something sets them off. But he didn't like the camper. The camper was what he was mad at. It was block. It was probably, yes, he came out of the woods.

It was right in the way because we had this clearing. And it was beautiful. I remember thinking, this is beautiful. And, you know, we were in his area. I don't know if there's Sasquashes there now. I don't know about the area. You know, that's just the area in my memory. And I remember, I go, Carrie, what was it called?

That's my sister. She was, oh, Tiana, it's Black Pine Lake. I thought, oh, that's right. So I had to ask her where it was. I didn't remember where it was. Read that encounter or heard that encounter. It was on Monster Quest about the guy that was camping on Vancouver Island in his camper. And this thing, Sasquatch shows up in the middle of the night and just starts rocking his camper.

It was rocking it almost like a 30-degree angle and then it stopped. Have you... No, I don't watch Monster Quest. I basically hurt my foot and I've been bored to death. And my son was just a couple, like a week or so ago. My son goes, oh, Mom, he showed me the YouTube, you guys on the YouTube. And I listened to a couple accounts. I thought, I want to let them know what happened to me because I do like your show.

I have listened to maybe a couple of them. And I got on the Facebook and was looking at your accounts. And I was reading. And I thought, this is so fascinating, you know, because I'm waiting for my fruity heels. So I've been looking for something to do. And that's, you know, why I wrote you guys. Oh, I appreciate it. It was an awesome account.

Thank you so much for sharing it. You're welcome. Thank you for listening. Oh, absolutely. Thank you so much for coming on. Thank you so much for sharing. Definitely. Thank you for listening.

and believing me because I don't know if my husband's like, she was like a raised eyebrow. No, we absolutely. I mean, this was an amazing account. I mean, amazing. So I really appreciate you, you know, coming on and telling us about it. Well, you guys have a nice evening. You too.

Oh, the hell of an account. It sure was. And at that young of an age, no wonder she should try to. to block it out. That is absolutely terrifying. And there's just no exception for what happened to her except casquots. I mean, a bear is not going to grab onto the bumper,

period. No. And scream like that? Uh-uh. Yeah. She had an absolute. Flat-out mad Sasquatch. Yeah, you wonder what set it off. Gosh, I wish her grandparents were still alive. Imagine getting them on the phone.

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