Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:419 I would not believe it if I didn't see it

Episode Date: April 1, 2018

Anthony writes "I live in Kentucky. I've had several encounters with Sasquatch, or as we refer as "Haints". My encounter started when I would ride my motorcycle and would always park at a secluded rock quarry lake. I've had hands on interactions with a juvenile that resulted in me thinking it's mother and another female was going to rip me to pieces. I later come to find out that an elderly lady feeds them and this is gonna sound really strange but she kind of ran a baby sitting house for the juveniles. This all seems unbelievable but I won't waste your time if you don't waste mine. I've told 3 people about this encounter and I figured I could tell you. If you choose to believe me or if you want to listen to my story just message me back." I spoke to the witness late last night. The witness said "I was on my motorcycle and I was out in the woods and I heard what sounded like a child crying. I came up on this thing. It was small and was hanging upside down in a tree, it was small. I think it fell from the top of the tree and got stuck as I walked up on this thing I thought I was dreaming. I had never seen anything like this before. It looked like a hairy human/animal/kid. I am sitting there watching this thing trying to figure out how I am going to help it out of the tree and what is it….you are not going to believe this, I wouldn't if someone told me this. As I am watching this thing two more stepped out and they were both females. It is a long story but one of the females screamed at me and I ran. This haunted me, I didn't know what I saw. Later I went down that same road and I parked my bike. A short while later this old woman walked up to me and started talking about what I had seen. I had not told anyone about what I had seen and somehow this old woman knew what happen to me. She told me to come by her home sometime as she lived up the road. I decided later to stop by her home and this is where it gets really strange. If someone told me what I am about to tell you I would NOT believe them….."

Black thing go from left to right, and I thought, I'm going to die out here and no one's ever going to know. I couldn't believe what my eyeballs was showing me. I'll never forget how evil the eyes were. It was horrible. I mean, I've never seen nothing that evil. It ran towards me at a rate that I can't even explain, turned and stared at me. And this look of, I just want to kill you. I want to say it was human, but it wasn't.

He was yelling at me to grab a gun, grab a gun. I was like, for what? He said, just grab a gun. And there's footprints all the way to the door of my house. It had went inside my garage all the way to the door. 911, what are you reporting? Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about six foot nine, I don't know.

Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right at him. Uh-oh. You're listening to Sasquatch Chronicles. Check us out online at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. If you've had an encounter, email me. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. Welcome to the show, everyone.

Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show planned for you tonight. I'm going to be talking to Anthony. And imagine for the moment you're out in the woods, you don't really believe in Bigfoot, and you come across something that shouldn't exist, and you feel like you're in dreamland. You feel like you're either going nuts or this isn't real.

This doesn't belong. And that's what happened to my guest tonight, Anthony. He came across something very strange and odd in the forest. And he went home, decided to come back. I think it was about a week later. And things got even more and more strange. And I always enjoy encounters like this. I've probably heard a handful of them off the air, but never on the air.

So I really want to thank Anthony for coming on tonight. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, I have some merchandise up there. You can become a member and get additional shows. A lot of cool things on the website. If you get a chance, I hope you check it out. Sasquatch Chronicles.com.

Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Anthony to the show. Thanks for coming on, Anthony. I really appreciate you being here. Yeah, no problem. Glad to be here. Turned into a faithful, faithful listener to the show over the past few months. Yeah, no, I appreciate that.

I appreciate that. I know you had a very strange encounter and it got stranger. But let's kind of start from the beginning. If you would, for the audience, just kind of start from the beginning. Tell us what you were doing and just kind of walk us into what happened. What did you see? Okay, well, actually my kind of my first encounter happened. This was in 2004, and we were on our, I live in, we'll say, Central Kentucky. And I was hitting home from one of the major cities here. And on the way home, I had a little Chevy Trailblazer.

And I was driving and one of the lugnuts broke on it. And as, you know, as I get going down the road, again, a couple more of them break, so, you know, I decided, you know, I have my pregnant wife in the vehicle with me. I said, you know, I'm a slow down. So I'm going like, you know, I went a total of 30 miles and it took me like almost

three hours to get there. As we're passing through, probably about a quarter mile away from where this incident happened, we had the windows down and it was, you know, it was pretty chilly that night. And I'll fund, there's a dry creek bed that was running along the road. It seemed like,

it seemed like a bulldozer running through the trees. And, I mean, it really, really, really freaked me out. And I've never, in a million years, thought that, you know, that if somebody said, hey, there's a Bigfoot over there, I'd have been like, man, you're out of your mind. About, like, the story I'm about to tell you. I mean, if I wasn't there, I wouldn't believe it. I mean, you know, if somebody told me,

if somebody was to tell me this story and I didn't know what I know, I would be like, man, this person. really needs to be checked into a mental hospital. But my first encounter is there's this, it's an abandoned rock quarry. And it has a really good size. I call it at the glorified pond. Everybody else would probably call it a lake. That's a pretty good size.

And, you know, when I would ride my motorcycle, I loved going out there because it was, it was absolutely quiet. It was peaceful. It was somewhere to go, you know, just to clear my faults. and another thing about it is too is while I was out there you know there was a little bit of strangeness in there I never really thought about you I couldn't say that I was actually being

you know felt some mind staring at me as people would say I never felt that way but it was just a it was kind of an airy feeling but it was also a tranquil feeling so pretty much you know if I took a long ride I would always go back and stop at this stop at this stop this Blake and, you know, sit out there and smoke cigarettes, you know, collect my folks. Well, one day I was out there, and this was probably in, I can't remember, it was one of the summer months.

It was probably June or July, August, one of the months. And it was, actually, it was in July. That's when it was. I was sitting there on the bank one day, and there's an abandoned building that sits there, and, you know, I walking in, and it was always really, really stinky in there. I mean, really, really stinky. You know, I thought it was, you know, there might have been a dead there in there or something. But, you know, I'm sitting on the bank next to this building,

and I heard like it's like a, I almost sound like a tree, like a snapping of a tree, like a branch or something. The next thing I hear is, I heard, sounds like a kid crying, like a baby crying. And I'm sitting there, you know, I'm like, man, you know, this is, I'm in the middle of nowhere and I'm hearing this. So curiosity gets the best of me, and I go over there, and, you know, I'm walking through the, I was probably maybe three or four hundred, about 300 foot away from my bike at the time. And it's a pretty wooded area. And, you know, I get to walk him through there.

And, you know, it keeps getting louder, keeps getting louder. And when I walked up on it and when I seen, when I seen, I thought it was like maybe a baby bear, you know, a cubs. that was caught in his tree, but it was, I mean, it looked like a big cup. But as I got up on it, I realized that's not what it was. And it turns around and looks at me, and it looked like a kid, like a child, a baby, and it looked like a part-timp. And, you know, I'm standing there looking at this, and I'm like, you know, what am I looking at? And it's the, I mean, it's the wildest thing in the world.

I never, you know, ever heard nothing about Bigfoot growing up. And I probably seen Harry in the Anderson's, but it was the last thing that was in my mind. I'm sitting there looking at this, and I look in the creature, the animal, I call him animals, was upside down and had his leg caught like in the wide part of the tree. And it's squalling and going crazy, and it looks at me. And, I mean, the look on his face, it really wasn't a look of fear. It was a look of pain. I could tell it was in pain.

And I'm sitting there thinking, you know, should I, should I, should I, should I, try to help this out. I didn't know what it was. Will it hurt me? And so I'm sitting there judging, debating on this. And all of a sudden, we'll call it the baby. The baby stops crying and just stares off.

And this whole demeanor on its face changed. Well, I look to see where he's looking at. And there's another one. Only she's a lot taller. I'm six foot two and she probably had four or five inches on me so I put her at about six and a half foot. I'm sitting there staring at that one, you know, just I'm frozen. I don't know what to do.

All of a sudden, another one comes from behind the tree. And they're both females. And the reason I know they were females is because, you know, they had breasts. They were hairy, but you could tell what they were. And I'm sitting here and I'm looking at the two. Two big one. I'm looking at the baby, and the other one that stepped out from behind the tree must have been its mother, and she was every bit of eight foot tall. And she wasn't big. She wasn't, you know, like the patty type, I guess they would call it. She was more slender. And she looks at me, and she growls and yells. I mean, loud, extremely loud. So I get scared, and I run back in. I get on my motorcycle and I haul ass.

Well, that same night, you know, I'm at home and, you know, I'm feeling worded out about this. And, you know, it was kind of hard to collect my fault on what I had just seen. The next day, you know, I'm supposed to get up and go to work. And I, for some reason, I end up getting sick. And I was sick for like three or four days straight. And it was not like a flu sickness. It was more of a, I felt like I had a hangover and like I had been punched in my hands. a few times.

Yeah, kind of like you've been poisoned. Yeah, like I've been poisoned. And I don't know if that's what they call the Infrasound, whatever that was. I end up taking the next couple weeks off of work. And, you know, because, you know, I didn't know what had happened. And during this two-week period, I end up talking, I talked to my grandfather. He's the only person that, you know, I had told about it at this time. And he believed me.

And he told me, you know, you got to, you know, because I told him I was scared about it. He was like, you have to face your fears. And, you know, I'm sitting there thinking maybe did I have a mental breakdown out there and really didn't see this stuff? So I'll go back out there probably about, it's probably about three weeks to a month later. Well, before we go into that, because this is where it starts to get really, really fascinating. Not that it isn't already. But talk about what did the creature look like. like, the one that you walked up on, and then if you would, for the audience,

describe the other two that you saw the best you can from what you remember. Okay. The baby that was in the tree, it looked like a, it looked like a chubby kid. It's bodywise. It looked like a little chubby kid covering in hair. I'd say it was probably, it was maybe about four foot tall, three and a half, four foot tall. But the face

looked so, it looked more human than it didn't monkey. It had the nose was, it had a human nose,

but it was, it was a lot wider. Not real big, but a little bit wider. And it was a, it was a chocolate

color, chocolate brownish color, we'll say. And the first female that stepped out, she was probably,

you know, she had a, Like I was saying, she's probably about 6, 6, 6, 7. I know she had 5 or 6 inches on me. And she was slender. She was a golden color. I guess you would call it blind, but it's not really blind to me. It looked more gold than anything.

And she looked a lot like a Native American. So that was a... So all three of them had kind of had a human-like appearance from where you... Oh, yeah. Look very human, but the big one that stepped out, she, you could tell she had a little bit of an animal in her. And when he said that, what do you mean? Maybe I'm saying that because of the way she growled at me and screamed, but she looked more, she had more of the chimp look to her. But the first one that stepped out, I mean, I mean, you know, she was beautiful.

I mean, not saying, you know, her facewise is just her standing there. It's something I had never seen before. I mean, this story is, I know this is hard to believe. And I know everybody out there is going to think I'm crazy, but if the God's honest truth. Yeah, no, I'm fascinated by it. And so all three of them looked more human-like, except for the very old, the oldest one looked more, kind of had an animal look. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, she had an animal look.

And the one, the golden one, the first one that stepped out, I mean, she was slender. But she, I mean, she was had muscles. But she, I mean, she had a, you know, she had the smaller waist and she had hips on her. You could tell she was younger. And you could tell she was in her youth, maybe going through, I guess what we would have is puberty. Yeah. And then the older one, obviously you could tell it was an older one. Oh, yeah, you could tell she was on her.

You could tell she looked a little rough. And let me ask you, so what's going through your mind at this point? You leave, you go home, and I can hear it in your voice when you and I talked the other night, and I completely get it. You almost kind of, and it's hard for people understand this, but when you experience something like this, you almost want to go back, you want to see it again. You want to make sure I wasn't delusional the first time I saw this thing. And so I get completely, but what's going through your mind? I mean, what did you think you just saw? To be honest with you, I had no one I could talk to.

I had no internet. And, you know, I didn't know what I've seen. To be honest with you, I couldn't put it in no category of nothing that I knew. The biggest shock was seeing the baby there, you know what I mean? Yeah. Because, I mean, it looked, like I said, it looked like a little chubby kid, hanging in a tree with a bunch of hair on it. Yeah.

You know, I wanted to help and not, and you know, I might not have been, it looked heavy. You know, it was probably just, you know, it was probably that height, but it was probably just as wide as me. And I'm 6-2 and I'm way probably 215, 220. And, you know, when I get, I got home that night, I just, I didn't know what to think. You know, I still was kind of confused, you know, even after I found out what they were, you know, I was still confused on it. Because, you know, when I, when I seen that, the first time I've seen that Patty type was the first one, you know, that I had actually seen. And, you know, I've seen the movie Harry and Henderson, but, I mean, these didn't look nothing like that. They did, but they didn't.

And so you go home and you're, you're, obviously this is on your mind. You take some time off work. I want to come back to you being sick. But before we go into that, so what happens next? Do you decide to go back out there? Yeah, yeah, I want to. I go back out there and, you know, I'll go back out there and I'm sitting there on the bank and, you know, trying to collect my faults and everything.

And, you know, it still had that eerie feeling, but a peaceful feeling. And I was thinking, you know, I'm sitting there thinking, did I have a mental breakdown in my head? What is, you know, what has happened to me? You know, at the time, you know, I was going through a lot of stress at the time with, you know, the first time I'd been married. First, you know, it was my second kid, and, you know, I'm, you know, I end up having a kid with another woman and, you know, with my wife. But, you know, I didn't grow up with like that. I grew up in, you know, a single, you know, both parents in my home.

And, you know, I was going through a lot of stress at the time. And I thought maybe I had had a mental break. But as I get out there, you want me to tell me how I met the lady? Yeah, if you would. Okay, so, you know, I'll go back out there and, you know, I collect all my thoughts and everything. And as I'm going to leave, I think this was, you know, I went out there a couple more times after that. And it was probably on my second or third time going back out there. I'm going to leave.

And there's this old lady that is standing out there by my motorcycle. No, I left something out, Wes. The first time I went out there, when I left, when I walked back to my motorcycle, there were three rocks, shiny rocks sitting on my gas tank. And I still have those to this day. I've made necklaces out of them. Yeah, I remember you tell me that, yeah. And come, you know, they were gifts from the, from the Sasquatch.

always referred to them as animals, but, but, um, so it was on my second or third time going back out there. I'm going to leave, and there's this old lady standing by my motorcycle. And I'm like, oh, man, what? You know, she's probably going to jump on me for being, you know, on this land, which I didn't know who, it was an abandoned rock quarry, but I go out there a lot and I was like, oh, man, here we go. So here's another thing. As I'm walking back to my motorcycle, she's like, excuse me, excuse me? And I'm like, oh my God, I'm about to get it from this old lady. And I walk up to her and I'm like, you know, hey, how are you doing?

And everything, you know, we set our greetings to each other. And she's like, I want to thank you for saving the, helping the baby Hain out. Did you understand that Haint? Yeah. That's what she referred to as Haines. That's what she called him. Yeah, Haines. Call them Haints.

Yeah. And I'm like, I'm like, what are you talking? talking about. She was like, you helped the baby hang out. And, you know, I'm sitting, you know, I didn't know, I didn't know what she was talking about. And when she was saying it to me, I wasn't thinking about my encounter or nothing. I just thought maybe she was a delusional old lady. Then she explained it to me. And I'm sitting there looking at this and I'm like this, I guess, you know, I didn't have a mental breakdown. And, you know, I was like, you know, how would you know about this? And she tells me, they told me. And she tells me, I'd seen this, you know, right in this road, I'd seen this old lady out in her yard a few times because I travel the road a lot. And she tells me, she's like, stop up to the house and see me. So, you know, I leave, you know, she goes walking back down. She didn't live that far away from there.

She probably lived maybe not even a half mile. If you cut through the woods, it probably wasn't a quarter of a mile. And, you know, she tells me to come out there and see her. So probably about a week later, I go, you know, I'm out on my motorcycle and I said, I'm going to go up here and I'm going to talk to this lady. And I go to her house and she's sitting on her front porch and I get off on the bike and I walk up and talking to her. And I was like, please explain this to me. I was like, I don't know what I've seen. And she tells me that, you know, she was like, I know that you help the baby out of the,

the tree, which I didn't. I didn't even put no hands on the baby. And she also told me she's like, she was like, I know that she said, I think she said its name. She's like, I know that she screamed at you. She was like, that's what they do when they're upset. And, you know, I'm asking her, you know, I had like a million things going in my head, but I didn't know what to say to her. You know, she's telling me about, I can't remember what I always talked about, but she ends up, She ends up inviting me into her house. We go in the house and we're sitting there at the kitchen table, and she's telling, you know, she gives me a little bit of details.

She had been, like, communicating with them since the 70s. Also, another thing, when I walked in her house, I mean, it was, it was nasty in it. Not nasty, dirty-wise, but just a terrible, terrible odor. What did it smell like when you walked in? Like a Like It smelled like a dairy Dairy cattle

And it smelled like a wet dog It didn't say I never smelled no skunk smell But I smelled the wet dog And they smell like It smelled like dairy cattles in there And they stink Just kind of a wild

Kind of a wild Wild wild wild wild Wild wild And also I noticed You know she had She had a few holes in her walls In the house It's you know

She lives in a really old house It's a two-story house out in the country. The house is probably over 100 years old. We go and we sit down in the kitchen and she's telling me she had been communicating with them since the 70s and, you know, they're like her family.

And, you know, while we're sitting in her, I hear something upstairs and, you know, I didn't think nothing about it. I'm like maybe, you know, I don't know what I thought about it, be honest with you. And she's sitting there and all of a sudden, she, we're sitting in this chair and she leaned

her head back and starts making this clacking noise. Well, I heard something coming down the steps, two sets of something coming down the steps. And she walks like in the entranceway into the kitchen and she's standing there. And all of a sudden peeking out behind her is the baby and another baby. And they're staring at me. I hear him sniffing just constantly like that. and she's talking with them and making hand gestures with them, and they're talking back and forth,

and I'm sitting here just blown away. Was it one of the same one that you saw on the tree? Oh, yeah, it was the same one. Yeah, you can't do it. I mean, all the ones that I've seen, all of them look different. All of them have their own look to them. And it was, sorry about that, I'm still kind of, When I get the thing about when I first seen all this,

it kind of puts me in a kind of a weird place. No, no, I understand. And so what happens next? You know, she, they're standing behind her and like, you know, like, she always wore these old sun dresses. And, you know, they both have their hands on her, on her dress, and are peeking around at me and sniffing and sniffing and she's telling, she says, don't worry, they don't worry.

They don't bite too hard. I thought they was, you know, that kind of broke the air in there. And, you know, she ends up, you know, she sits back down and they're sitting there and they're standing right beside her. And they're like, they have their hands down, but they're kind of looking at me and everything. And we're sitting there and, like, she has a, she had some muffins sitting on the counter and they go over there and grab the muffins and are eating them. And it's just like, it was these ladies. grandkids. And I know

everybody out there is probably like he is lying, his tail off, but this is the God's honest truth, and I don't know any of the way to tell this, but the way that I've seen it. You know, she's there or was that with the muff? Yeah, they grabbed the muffins and were eating them up. And, you know,

she's telling me more about them and everything. I can't remember everything that she tells me. But on that first day, I was out there when I met the babies, we was all in the kitchen and all of a sudden there's a it's more clicking it's more like a yell but with like clicking in it and the two babies look up and the woman looks up

they all do the same kind of head motion you know I asked her I was like what was that and she was like that's Papa and come to find out Papa's the Alpha and the two the two juveniles she walks into the door and is communicating with them talking and make the, I don't know, it sounds like that,

but maybe a little bit different. Like if you put your tongue to the top of your throat, or to the, yeah, to the top of your mouth, roof of your mouth, and that kind of sound. Kind of a popping sound. Yeah. The popping sound, yes. And she walks into the door,

and I'm still sitting, in the, when you sit in her kitchen, you can see her a whole backyard, all the woods, our gardens, or barns, and everything. And I see these two little juvehers. now take off running out the back. And they were, they were upright running. And, I mean, these things are fast.

I mean, they went around there. It was like two lightning strikes. They were gone. And so what happens next? I know you, I know you went back and we'll get to that. But do you, I mean, what was a conversation like where you, did you ask her, what the hell are these things? What's going on here?

You know, I asked her, I put it in that kind of. context, what are they? I was like, you know, I just, I kind of asked her, I said, what is going on? And she, she, you know, like she told me she's been communicating them with, with them since the 70s, and she tells me that, you know, that, that they help her out around the farm. She tells me that she keeps the, she keeps the babies every second or third night while the grown-ups hunt. And it's like she almost comes from, comes to run like a little daycare there. And she said that she has rooms up there. And she told me she's been doing this with pretty much everyone that's in the truth.

And she says once they get a certain age that, you know, they get too big and they can't come in the house. And when I've seen what I've seen, I understand why. Like the female, she could get in there, but she, I mean, her head would be through the door, through the roof. It's interesting because I've heard things like this before in the past. but, so do you guys eventually, does she tell you anymore, or do you eventually just end up leaving? I sit there talking to her, but, you know, it was so much that, I mean, it was, it was so much information and things to take in at once.

Because it was like I was, it was like being put on a different planet. It was something that I didn't know. You know, I was, you know, she tells me, you know, like I said, she was telling me that they help her out around the farm. and the second time I went out there and we went in the backyard and she shows me her garden and she says you know

this is my side of the garden and that's that side of the garden she has a small pond that she keeps stock with fish for them and she had a few horses out there and she had I think that she was feeding them the horse food the horse feed food

whatever you call it because I mean there was there was probably a three or four hundred bags of this food laying around, feed laying around. Also, another thing I didn't tell you about when we talked to the other day, when I looked in her backyard, she has this, she has had a, when you go in the house, there's an extension cord is running out the back door with cable wire tied all the way around it. And she has a TV sitting out there for them.

Oh, yes, also this too. I mean, this sounds crazy. I know. I'm sorry, but this is the truth. When I was in there, I noticed a lot of toys. And a lot of the toys were SpongeBob. Well, she has this TV that she kept outside with cable on it. And she says that they all love SpongeBob.

And I was out there. It was probably on my third time I went out there. And she had the TV on. And she was like, watch this. And she plugs it in. And she was like, give it just a minute. And I looked out there and there was, you can see their eyeballs every one. were.

Little sets of eyes everywhere out there. And I thought that was probably one that neatest thing. It was probably one of the most fascinating thing. So let me ask you. So you end up leaving. How many times do you go back to this property and talk to this lady? I probably went out there five or six times. Well, tell us about the next time you went out and what she said or if you saw any other

creatures. Okay. Yeah. The next time I went out there, you know, we're in the house. and we ended up going out on the front porch and the first female that I'd seen was there. It came up and she was outside and communicating with it. And I mean, this is going to sound horrible, I know, but

and the thing about it is, I don't want to say the lady's name, but she ends up telling me that her on Bigfoot was eight years old. but she was, you know, six foot six, six foot seven. And like I was telling you, well, how I'm sitting there, you know, I'm looking, you know, I'm staring just like crazy. And, you know, I probably might have stirred her breast way too much. And I know everybody can think, ooh, that's sick, but it is what it is. And she gave me a very, like, mean look and a dirty ground.

Typical woman. Typical woman And you know They said that they can read minds And you know I wasn't thinking nothing like that I hope I wasn't If I did God forgive me

But I mean she was She was very attractive And there's this There's a picture on the internet And it's It's old rare photos of like Native Americans And if you look through there

There's a picture of a woman That looks very very similar to her Well it sounds odd to the audience, and, you know, obviously for me, it sounds odd because, but having said that, I wasn't there. And Albert Outsman, you know Albert Outsman, the Canadian, that claimed. And you and I were talking about this the other night, there's a portion of his story where I think there was more that went on there than what he says, because he was very attached to the young female, and he even thought about taking the young female away from there. And it makes you

stop and go, well, why? Why? Why was he so infatuated with this young female? So I'm breaking your balls, but I guess I get it to some extent. You know, I understand where you're coming from. I mean, it's just, I mean, I'm not know how she was attractive. I'm not going to put it. And, you know, she's, you know, she's, you know, she's, you can't see her lower area because it's very hairy. But, you know, I mean, she has, she has. She was very tall and muscular, but she had a shake. And, you know, she had a hairy little butt, I guess I can say. And, you know, she was, I mean, it was fascinating.

You know, it was a beautiful specimen, the way I put it. No, I get it. You can go to the zoo and see a beautiful line. It's like, man, that thing is really beautiful. Yeah, of course. So this thing is actually talking to the old woman. when you were there, this one was. So obviously, that's where the old woman knew that you had walked up,

men no harm. Obviously, they were communicating with her. And I want to come back to this because there's something I want to tell you about it, but I don't want to interrupt the story. So go ahead. So she's talking with this one. What happens next? Yeah, she's talking with the lady.

She's talking with the woman, and the woman is sitting on the stairs, and the Bigfoot was there. they're communicating and I'm listening to this and you know at the same time I'm staring at her and that's when she gave me the low growl I guess I was staring actually too hard and um she's sitting there and she's like give me just a minute is what she tells me she walks in the house and comes out with a big thing of muffins and gave to her and she walked off and that that was that was the story on the second time I went out there how were they communicating was it the Same thing, clicks and...

Yeah, the clicking. Yeah, the clicking of the mouth. But, you know, I think some of them, I don't know, I could have swore them when the... Remember I told you the two juveniles when I first went out there and they had left, I could have swore one of them said by. And maybe that was something in my head,

but I could have swore I heard one of them say bye. But she was communicating with them. It's a lot of hand gestures. when she's talking. You know, she would make a lot of half circles with her hand. Do you understand what I'm saying? Like she would stick her hand out and make like a half circle. She done that a whole lot.

But it wasn't no sign language, but it was, I don't know sign language, but it didn't look like sign language to me. There's a lot of hand gestures. Yeah, no, I understand. And a lot of clacking. But, you know, I say that clacking, but, you know, it's a language. Because H, you know, they were all different. You know what I mean?

It's like me sitting here talking to you now. You know, all my words are different. Well, when she was, or, you know, if you're a Latino speaking Spanish, you can tell that they're saying different words. Or a Japanese person talking very fast. You can tell that they're saying different words. It was the same thing, and it was very fast. Yeah, no, it's very interesting.

And I've heard the clicking and the popping before. And so do you end up leaving and then coming? I know you went back, what, five or six times? Is that? Yeah, I went back five or six times. And on my next time I went out there is when she showed me the garden. And she shows me her, you know, she kind of gives me a small tour of the property, but not real far. And she told me, and like, were they, I guess their nest or den or whatever you want to call it?

she says they stay back there. And when we were out there, you know, I did have that feeling of being watched. And she told me she's like, they're always there. She's like they always, you know, they're, she's like they always watch me and, you know, they know her really good. She's like, they're always there. There's always one or two of them is always there. And she would, she would never, if a burglar went to her house, I would feel so sorry for them.

It'd be the worst mistake in the world. And so tell us about the next time you saw him. Tell us about the next time you actually saw the creatures, or if you did see him again, when he went back out. Okay. On the next time I went out, you know, I've seen the juveniles, the babies a lot. Because I heard people say in juveniles and all this stuff, but, you know, the juveniles are big.

The juveniles are bigger than we are. I mean, they're a way, you know, like I was telling you, the female that I've seen, she was only eight years old, and she was six foot six. and every bit of probably 300 pounds. But, I mean, I'll mother that. I don't think there's an ounce of fat on them. The next time, like I was saying, I'd seen the juvenile house.

And, you know, I was telling you about this. We were sitting at the kitchen table, and there was the two juvenile. I guess there was only two babies there at the time that I was there. All I'd seen was two babies. And there was always the same two up there. and they were sitting in the floor and I was looking at their feet and I noticed they have a patent on their foot

but they also have a oh man I don't know how to say it's like they have a a break in their foot about halfway down and it's like it almost looks like their ankles are in the middle of their foot and I think as they get older I'm just I'm no expert

but I think as they get older I think maybe they kind of their feet grow into them or they grow into their feet because they're so big and it looks like they're like, you know, I was looking at the, the eight-year-old

and, you know, I was looking at her and, you know, her ankle placement was farther back like ours were. But the juveniles weren't. But the juvenile... It's going to sound weird. The story sounds weird. The story sounds strange.

The story sounds unbelievable. But, you know, it looked like their ankle was almost in the middle of their foot. And I don't... That's the only way that I can explain. that's very interesting and uh i remember i was out there one time and the lady was telling me she said that the i've never really seen them do it but uh she said the two babies she said they

fight a lot and they and they fight over toys a lot and she did say that they do have a really really bad temper but they listened to her like when she she snapped her fingers they moved and you know they kind of you know they kind of pouted around like a kid would do and you know i never I guess they were on good behavior with me there, but, I mean, she said that they throw temper tantrums. She says that, you know, that they have broke stuff in the house. Did she ever tell you what they were? I think she refers to them as, as, she never said what they were.

She referred to them as her neighbors. And I think she, I'm not in the woman's head, but I think she sees them as a people. And I know a lot of people have bad encounters with them. and, you know, I would hate to piss, you know, even the eight-year-old off because, I mean, she could probably take on five men and win. And, oh, where was I had? I got lost in thought. So you went back, you were going back to the property. Yeah, going back to the property.

Yeah, and the babies, yes. I was telling you about their feet and everything. It was probably like on my fourth time going back out there, you know. I hadn't gotten really close with this lady, but, you know, she talked to me a lot. She liked drinking coffee. And, oh, you know, on that second time I was out there, and when she brought the muffins out there, she said they love peanut brittle. And my mother, she made the best peanut brittle in the world. So I took a very big thing of peanut brittle out there, and she said they were very happy with it. It was probably on the fourth.

I probably went out there maybe five or six times. And it was either the fourth or fifth time I went out there. I was sitting, and it was later on, it had gotten dark on me. And I always told myself I didn't want to be out there at dark because, you know, you know, she, she knows them, I don't. And, you know, I was a little, you know, I ain't allowed to you. I was a little scared being out there at night. And she's sitting there and we're sitting there talking and she just,

I can't remember what our conversation was, but she stops and she was like, I'll be back. and I'm like, okay, and she's like, she's like, Papa's here. And this is the first time I've seen the alpha. And she goes outside, and I look out that window, and Wes, it was the, it was a beast out there. What did you see?

I mean, he was so big. I swear he was, at his shoulders, he was five foot across. He was humongous. And this lady, she's, you know, she's a picture of your, Typical old lady, she's probably 5'3, 5'4. She was at his waistline, and that's the God's honest truth. The top of her head was at his waistline. And she was out there talking to him.

You know, I heard a lot of the clacking and everything, and, you know, I'm looking out the window, and he, Papa, I guess I will call him, looks at me, and, like, I look at him and I get terrified. I didn't want to go out there no more, but he was, I mean, he was, he was massive. I thought the one that yelled at me was big. She had nothing on him.

Did he look more human-like, or was he more of... You know, he had to... It was dark, but it wasn't... You know, there's a... But I guess, you know, I refer to hearing him now. The bugger lights, what people say, like the lights that, you know, that they have on the barn. And, you know, I can make him out pretty good at, like, his body features,

but he was standing with his back to the light. I couldn't make out, you know, actually, I could make out his facial features, but I couldn't describe. I really couldn't describe him in detail to you. But he looked like an old man a little bit in his face, is what I think. His nose was really big, and his mouth was ungodly big.

I mean, he had the biggest, that's the one thing I remember about him is his mouth, was being really, really big. and all of them have really, really, like, thin lips. They almost look like they have no lips. And so you see this thing, and so what happens next? Well, you know, I'm sitting there staring at the window, and she stays out there for like 10 or 15 minutes,

and I have no idea what they were talking about, but they were communicating. She comes back in and just picks up our conversation, like nothing in the world happened. And I'm like, yeah, I was like, I said, that's Papa. I was like, you know, I told her, I was like, He is humongous. She was like, oh, he's a teddy bear.

She referred to him as a teddy bear. I mean, I'd hate to run him in a dark, in a lighted alley. I would hate to run into that. Yeah. I mean, his arms, his arms were as big as big as my head, and that's no lie. And his shoulders and his, the, I guess it's the trapezoid muscles that go up to the neck. I mean, they, I mean, just unreal. And he, you know, another thing different about him is that I noticed compared to the females and the babies, the females and the babies, they had a little bit of a neck.

He really didn't have a neck. Like his neck, like when I seen him in the light, when I first looked at him, all I seen was those big trapezoid muscles and like a little hump on top. And so, you know, his head. And so does he eventually leave? I mean, does he eventually turn and just kind of, I know you said to. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, she sat out there and talk to them and, you know, they're done their clacking and, you know, he takes out walking and she comes back in the house. Like nothing, like nothing that ever happened.

But, you know, she's been dealing with them since the 70s. Oh, and she also told me that pretty much all of them that's out there, she had not really raised, but she looked after pretty much all of them. She's been looking after the baby since the 70s. And I say more than likely, Papa was probably one of her. you know, one of the babies that was in there at one time. Yeah, it's fascinating. It's really fascinating. And so before you talk about why you never came back,

did she tell you any more information about them or anything that stands out to you? Yeah, she said, I remember her telling me about when they go hunting, she said that they go an unbelievable amount of, distance, they come back all within the same night. She told me that she believes that they were hunting as far as up to the Ohio River. And that's probably from there,

as, you know, in a straight line, there's the crow flies, everybody says, it's probably 40 miles, 40 or 50 miles. She said she believes that they, you know, go as far as that. And she says, she says that they'll bring her meat. she stocks the pond and you know she stocks the pond for them and I asked her I said I remember I said I said do they have fishing poles and she's like no they get right in the water and catch them and that's you know that that's pretty awesome because I mean to catch a fish is really really I've tried that as a kid and she said that they were really good swimmers and she mentioned something about the star people tell me about that oh yeah yeah yeah that was probably that was the same night that was That was the same night. She told me once the males get like, I guess, to a certain age or something,

that they have to leave and go with the star people. And I never, ever knew what that meant. I don't know if it's a UFO thing. I don't know. I mean, the story's crazy enough as it is. Going into UFOs even makes it even crazy. No, I hear you. But, you know, she tells me that once the males get to a certain age,

that they have to go with the star people for a little while. and she never gave me no she never, you know, that was pretty much what she told me and she never gave me no details on what it meant or she never explained it to me. Yeah, no, that's interesting. I'll come back to that. But did she say anything else?

Does she give you any more information about them or what they do or why they do what they do? The only thing that she pretty much told me in details about is, you know, that she had been dealing with them since the 70s and that, you know, she said pretty much every day that the babies are at her house. Every time I went there, the babies were always there.

And I seen, when I was out there one time, I seen some, when we was out there, it was on the second, it was on the second time I went up there. She was showing, no, it was on the third time I went out there. I had walked out to the barn, and I was looking at all the, she has some, those big silos. She has four big silos on her, land and I was looking at all the feed that was out there and everything in the barn.

And I've seen some figures. You know, I could tell, you know, what she said, they're always around. And I could tell, plus I felt that feeling like they were watching me. But I knew something was out there, but I never seen it. And she told me at the time, she said that there was, I think, 16 or 17 of them that was in the truth. It's fascinating. And there's things I want to talk to you about.

But before we get into that, what made you stop going out to this woman's property? I know you're getting access to a lot of people don't get, but what made you stop? Just when I've seen, when I've seen, you know, Papa, I mean, it scared me because he was, I mean, he could probably flick me and kill me. He could, I mean, that's no lie. I mean, his hands were, his hands, I can't even describe how big they are. you'd have to see it to believe it. He could probably grab a basketball and squeeze it with two fingers and probably bust it.

So it was mainly seeing the size of this thing is what... See the side of him. And I kind of actually get that. I mean, in my own encounter, I mean, I hate to go back to my own encounter, but I kind of get what you're saying. I mean, it's hard for people to understand when he see something three, four times your size, standing up right, like a man. and it does run a, it does strike some fear in you.

And if it doesn't strike some fear in you, you got some major issues you need to work out because the size of them does, you know. And I get what you're saying. So you stopped going out there. That was the last time. No, I'd went out there one more time after that, and that was pretty much the last time I went.

Because, you know, when I went home that night, it was just like seeing him was, It was just, I mean, it was, it was fascinating seeing him, but at the same time, it was, it was like a nightmare seeing him. And, you know, I never had any nightmares at all about my whole, through this whole thing. I never had no nightmares about them at all. To be honest with you, I think it's really fascinating, Anthony. And the reason why I say that is because I've heard this about four or five times off there, as you and I said the other night. And, you know, one of the ladies, and it makes you wonder some of it.

times. Well, is this just a lonely old woman that's saying a story to, you know, I don't know. But I can tell you through her encounter, along with your encounter, there's little bits of truth to what, and I'm not, please don't take this wrong way. There's, there's items what you talk about that is very, I've heard before, it's real details, the clicking, the popping, how they talk back and forth using hand gestures. I just talked about this on Friday night show with a guy who came over a hill and he saw military guys talking to a Sasquatch. He didn't want to come on the show, didn't want to discuss it, you know, as far as being

public. But he went into full details with me about what he saw. And it really bothered him, but he said it appeared that they were talking to each other. And I wasn't really sure what to think about that. You know, I really wasn't sure what to make of that. I believe them. Well, and then I... The lady I was telling you about that contacted me, she had named them like pets, like dogs.

She had named all of them. Yeah, she had names for all of them. And the thing about it was, it was their real names. It was the, it wasn't a name she had gave them. It was a name that just like you're Wes and I'm Anthony. Yeah, and that's kind of what this lady did. I mean, and what was interesting is she talked about this little one. on her property. And not that they dropped them off the house, but they would drop them off

near the barn. And it was always the little ones. And she said that there's a little one on her property. And actually, an investigator went out there, but there's a little one on her property. And he had a white stripe on his chest. And one of the investigators had seen that, had actually seen this creature. And their creature was about six, seven, almost seven feet tall. And she was telling him, oh, he's only about eight, maybe nine years old. He was very small. he has that white stripe on his chest. I mean, I don't know what to think about that. You know what I mean?

It's like, what you just said? She talked about him like, just like people, you know. You know, he's like, you're saying, you know, he's a little one. And that's the way she referred to him as. She referred to him as people. Yeah, and that's what this older woman, she gets very upset with me when I say animals or creatures. And I'm sure I'll get an email from her after this show. But she doesn't like when I call them animals and creatures because she says they're a form of people.

But she feeds them and she, I mean, she could tell you all sorts of things. You know, like where you're talking about with those swimming. She's like, they're excellent swimmers. They can hold their breath for a long time. She has a lake right next to her home. She told me all sorts of things about them. Where is this lady from? She's actually in Alabama.

Oh. And she... That sounds a lot like... It sounds like... And that's why I was so happy to have you come on the show because she wouldn't come on the show. But I've heard this about four or five times before off the air. And rarely do you ever get those people to come on the air and talk about it? Because it sounds so crazy to everyone listening.

I'm sure I'm sure I'll get 100 hateful emails after this show. But no one else was there but you. And so you know what happened. And I wasn't there. And so do I think all these things are, or evil monsters that'll rip you from limb to limb? No, I don't believe that. I think most of the time the encounters,

they don't want to interact with you. It's a very, there's a lack of trust, and there should be a lack of trust, but, and then you hear stuff like this, and where this old woman seems to be taken care of him for many years, and I can kind of see something like this happening. You know what I mean?

I mean, I really can see something like this happening. Well, you know, they, I don't think they trusted me because they didn't, I was there, but I felt like a, like the red-headed step-shad. Like a third wheel. Yeah. I felt like a third wheel, you know. Not so much with the babies, but, you know, the babies never really interacted with me. And, you know, I would, you know, I would try to make faces at them and try to, you know, just do stuff like you would do it with a kid.

And it was just like, every time I do it, they would just, they would always put their heads down. And they would, you know, they would like look at me, but, like, put their heads. down and like kind of raise her head up, look at me out of the corner. Yeah, get the stink eye. Yeah, get the stink eye. And the, I guess as they get older things change, just like with humans, but the babies, they had the prettiest hazel eyes. I mean, their eyes were absolutely beautiful. But as they got older, like, you know, the two females that I've seen, their eyes were black. And the two babies were both males. And maybe when they get older, maybe their eyes were the same color.

but it's just, that's something I kind of hypothesized. I'm really interested about the star people thing, because you do hear a lot of strange reports of them around UFOs, and not always. I mean, it's not like every report's like that, but you do get the very odd reports from time to time. I wanted to ask you, was there anything else she told you about them? Was there, did she give you a history on her property

and how these things came on? and did she talk about any of that? No, but, you know, in the little town that I was living in at the time, you know, small towns, big talk. I remember hearing from, you know, just people talking, I remember hearing people saying that the lady was crazy. Like, you know, she drove, she was an older lady and, you know, she came to town and would get gas and, you know, she would go to, it's called Southern. States. It's like a, I don't know if y'all have them out there or not. Like a gas station or? Do you all have a

tractor supply out there? No. A TSC. It's like a no, it's like a farm store. You can buy gates, you can buy feed, you can buy clothes, but you know, like Carhart. It's for, it's a farmer's store.

It's like a farmer's Walmart is what it is. I got you. And, you know, you know, I remember people you know, making, you know, people making fun of her, you know what I mean, because, you know, they said she was crazy and all this stuff. And, like, when she came up talking to me, I already knew who she was. And I was like, you know, that's why I was tripping out. I was like, what does this lady want?

Because, like, she doesn't hardly talk to anybody. And, you know, she kind of stays to herself. But, you know, I understand why now. She drove a little red four-door chvette. And I'm saying that, and everybody's probably, you know, there's people in this town and I'm like, oh, we know what we're talking about. Yeah, no, I hear you. Yeah, no, it's, I know the lady I talked to, who talked about the white stripe being on the small one. And it's kind of similar, except for hers, I think, started in the 50s or 60s. And her husband passed away. And they knew that they were on the property. They just never really got close with them. She started feeding them. And then all of a sudden, they started, you know, rolling up and she was naming them. And so it's interesting. You know, when you get into situations like this, Is she still alive today, do you know?

I'm not for sure, but, you know, you're saying that about that lady's husband dying? That lady told me that her husband died in the 70s. And, you know, I never put that together to just now. But she told me that, and I never, you know, she was out there by herself, obviously not by herself, but she was out there by herself. And I remember her telling me that, you know, her husband had passed away in the 70s. If I could go back now and, you know, some of the stuff I know now, I would probably have, she probably would kick me out of there because I would have a million questions for.

And, you know, even if I did know what I know today, I probably would have never, you know, even though things have changed, I wouldn't take no camera out there. I wouldn't videotape it, you know what I mean? I wouldn't destroy their world just to prove a point to a world that don't give a shit about them. And I hate to say it about that. No, I understand what you mean. I understand. Somebody, you know, want to make a profit. Oh, and another thing that she was telling me about, and I heard on.

On other stations was about the braiding of the horse's hair. And I had heard on another Bigfoot show that they do that when they are molest than the animals. The way this lady had this relationship with the animals, Bigfoot Sasquatch, I don't know what's politically correct. But she told me that, you know, her horse's hair, that they braid their hair. and I don't think it was, I don't think it was nothing like that, my opinion. Yeah, I don't know that it's molesting every time. The lady I was telling you about with the younger one with the white stripe, she talked about that to me.

And that was way before Melba catch him or anyone was, you know, really they were talking about it or the outlaws. I know what you're referring to. That's where I heard it from. Yeah, and she told me the same thing, that they braid their hair. It's not pretty. but it's kind of a half-assed braiding of horses' hair. And, you know, I don't know if there's a humanity in these things.

I mean, I think the audience pretty much knows I hate these things. And deep down, I think I'm not, I'll put it to you like this. I haven't had the experience with them like you have. My experience was very different. And it was not a friendly experience. And so for me, you know, show like this is difficult because I really think there are nothing more than that, well, I don't even want to say that. But it's so hard to hear stuff like this, but I've heard it before. It's not just you, Anthony.

This isn't it just some crazy story you're telling me that I've never heard before. I've heard this before. And I was laughing when you and I were talking to the night because you're like, you know, you're like, well, you're not going to believe any of this because it's too crazy. If I wasn't there, I wouldn't believe it. If someone told me this, I would think they were a liar too. That's why I was laughing with you. I was like, well, try me. Trust me.

I've heard some strange things. I mean, if you can top it, I'll send you out a sweatshirt or something. Because I've heard strange. But, you know, if I'd have been down there when I first ran into them and that baby was stuck in the tree, I think if Papa would have been there, I don't think I would be here right now. Yeah, you might be right. And I hate to say this about, I'm doing it to say it because, I mean, you're very open-minded. The reason I didn't go by, I got a bad feeling off of you.

And I don't know why. I mean, I had, it was just, I don't know, I just got, I got a very bad feeling off of him. You know, I was, like a menacing feeling? Like, the vibe was very bad. Oh, I got you. You know, I felt it, you know, the guy's honest truth. I felt it before he got there. and that sounds the whole story sounds crazy but I mean before he got there there was a gloomy

feeling you know what I mean yeah it was a gloomy gloomy gloomy feeling and you know when she said you know the two juveniles they was in the floor playing and when she was like I'm gonna I'm gonna go out she's like I gotta go outside and you know I looked out there and it's just like they were in the floor playing but when she you know when he was there you know they went upstairs And I was just like, you know, I got a bad feeling from him. And after seeing him, it kind of ruined it for me. It was something, I felt like I was the only person in the world that was going through this. You know what I mean?

I'm sitting there thinking, you know, you know how people say that, you know, they see a big foot here, you know. And when I heard the story, I was thinking there was just one big foot that was traveling all across America. and my happy black asses to see the four of them. You know what I mean? I'm like, damn, you know, it was so different, and it was like, you know, I told nobody in the world, my grandfather, the only one that knew about it. And, you know, he was an old, mean old man,

and I know he wouldn't say nothing to nobody about it. And, you know, I felt, you know, I felt special being out there, you know, that I was being a part of this. And, you know, seeing the babies playing and everything is just, you know, they were probably four foot tall, but they were probably like a one-year-old. You know what I mean? As far as, you know, they could communicate and everything, but you could tell they wasn't too bright. You know what I mean?

They were kids, you know what I mean? Yeah. No, it's interesting. And you hear a lot of reports of them, like you said, with the clicking and the clacking, the mouth pops. sort of thing. I mean, I had a guy on a couple weeks back, and him and his cousin were attacked by one. He was originally on Crypted

Brothers. Lance over there does a great job, by the way, but he was originally on their show, and he came on, he was talking about it, and he was talking about this mouth popping, this clicking that it was doing. And I didn't think it was... The guy from Ohio? Yeah, the guy from Ohio. Yeah. And I was

telling him, I don't think that that mouth popping and clicking was meant for you. I think it was probably trying to communicate with another one. But you hear a lot of this stuff throughout this, you know, and again, I've heard stuff like this before and I've always been kind of, should I really, should I error this? Should I not air this? And I'm at the point now we're all pretty much air anything.

But I'm so glad that you came forward because so many, well, I didn't mean like that. I mean, you know what I mean? I sound like a real. What I'm laughing about is when you said that is like when you said, hey, I want to, you want to do an interview on the show? I mean, that kind of blew my mind. Yeah, no. It was like when I've seen the baby because I was like, he's going to think I'm crazy.

No, I'm going to have my number traced and now I'll be in the middle of my morning. No, no, no, I didn't think that at all. And I'm so glad that you came forward because there's situations like this before to where I thought, God, if I get this person on the air and share this, there's a lot of information here. I mean, there's a boatload of information here. And, but most of those people don't. Nine times out of ten, those people don't want to come on the show. So I'm really glad that you came on.

I wanted to ask you, what do you think that these things are, Anthony? What's your honest opinion? My honest opinion, like I say, I referred to them as animals. And maybe I referred to them as animals because maybe I didn't get to know him the way this lady did. But if, you know, if I was out and I would say I was hunting or something and I'd seen this, I would think it was an animal. I don't think it's anything that has special powers, the mind speak, and all that stuff. To me, they're an animal.

But I think there's a little bit more to them. I think they're, you know, we're animals. And I think that they're maybe as far as intelligent wise. And I think maybe there are two steps behind humans. I think they're way above, you know, like an orangutan's supposed to be the smartest. Ape, gorilla, whatever you want to call it, they're supposed to be the smartest. I think they're way smarter than that. You know, I think they're smarter than probably some of the people.

But like she says, they have bad tempers. They live in the woods and they don't wear it. I see them as animals. I know it's probably going to piss a lot of people off, but I see them as animals. Very odd animals, you know Very odd animals And they can be killed You know

One of the babies And I don't know what it did But it had a She put a band-aid on it Had a cut on its face And It was His blood was just as great as mine

And yours So it was hurt It was hurt Even though it was small injury I don't know how You know It was a pretty good gash on his face And you know

she put some, that neo sporing on it. She cleaned it, she sprayed peroxed out on and put some Nielsporon on it, threw a band-aid on it. And kissed it on his cheek and patting it on his button. Okay, go play. Yeah, I'd really love to find out if this woman is still alive. And, you know, I told you the other night, I said,

let me talk to us out. I'm a ride out there. I'd chicken down. I'd love for you to go back out there. I don't want you to give me any information over the phone as far as the address and everything. But I'd like for you to go back out there. there and see if, you know, if it's still going on, if she's still around. You know, I know this

happened what, whatever, over 20 years ago, right? It happened in 2004. 2004, so yeah. 14 years ago. I wonder if she's still alive and if she's still, if this is still going on. Yeah, I know, you know, I looked on Google Maps. The house is still there. You know, the silos are still there. The woods are still there. You know, I'm... It sounds crazy, but I'm going to go back and, you know, you can see a lot of stuff on Google Maps. And I'm going to try to pinpoint the area down, like, where the, where she pointed the DNF to me. And, you know, you never know, you might, you might see something. I don't know if y'all ever tried anything like that. You know what I mean?

Like, you know, I know you get a lot of reports on where they are, but, you know, you can go on Google Maps and you can look down pretty far on the Earth. Yeah, you can. The interesting. part is a lot of times in situations like these, and again, I've dealt with very few, but the few I've dealt with, they don't want, they're not looking to prove it to anyone. They're not looking for, they don't want researchers out running around on their property, which I don't blame them. And they're not looking to really prove it to, it's a different mindset.

I guess for a listener listening, as opposed to someone in the situation, you're talking apples and oranges. From a listener, you would think, well, take pictures. Let's go out, give video of them. Let's do this. Let's do that. And the people on the property, they have a different mindset. I've noticed when I've talked to them because that's not, they don't, you're welcome to come out. Like the old woman I was talking about, she's like, you're welcome to come out, Wes. If you want, I got an extra bedroom, you can come out and crash. You can come out and see them all you want. Just don't, I don't want my address. I don't want the, you know, this showing up on the internet, having either the government come out

and squash it or having Bigfoot researchers come out and squash it. And it's kind of, it's a weird position to be in. It's a very frustrating position to be in because it would be nice to prove it. It'd be nice she took up the video camera and started videotaping them. I'm sure they would squash it in two seconds. So she did that. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm not going to lie to you. I wish I I had a picture of the two babies. You know, I've seen them, and it's just like, they were so cute and so, you know, they were chubby, and, you know, they were just full of energy. And, you know, they would sit there, you know, they would be in the floor.

And a lot of the times, I don't know if it was like a game that they play with each other, but they would be sitting on their butts with their legs out in front of them kind of spread a little bit. And they would have their hands back bracing themselves. And they would always be pushing each other. It's like they constantly. did that. And I don't know, you know, maybe, maybe kids do that. But I mean, it was fascinating watching the play and watching them, you know, communicate and, you know, it's like the first time I'd seen them. And she laid her head, the first time she laid her head back and done that clocking,

I was like, what is she doing? And then, you know, she walks through that doorway and, you know, she turns around and I see a little head peek out behind her. Well, on the other side, another side, another little head peeks out behind her. And, you know, I was like, man, I just want to pick one of these things up and just squeeze it. Because it was, I mean, it was cute. Yeah. And it sounds crazy, but, you know, it was like a little, they were like little teddy bears. And I've heard that from other people, too.

You know, when they're really young, they're like, they look like a bunch of little kids, really for lack of a bit of children. They look like kids. They look, they look so much. I mean, you could tell, like, their, what are they called the, uh, the, uh, the brow the brow lines you know like where the eyebrows are it did protrude a little bit

but not bad you know what I mean not real bad and they kind of look you know they looked a little bit like a like a chimpanzee but you know

they were cute and they were chubby and you know I'd hate to make one of them I'd hate to have one of them really angry at you even being that small because I'd say they're

one of them was probably way stronger than I could ever thought about being Yeah, and I've heard that. You know, like when they're younger, they have a different look two of them. And then when they get older, they tend to get more ugly, more terrifying looking as they kind of grow into their features. You know what I mean? Well, if they end up looking like Papa, I feel sorry for him. Because he was, I mean, he was scary looking.

And, you know, when they went running out of that house and I was sitting there and I was standing at that window and they went around there, they were, I mean, they were losing. I mean, moving. I mean, they could probably outrun an Olympic runner. I mean, they were fast, and they were right beside each other. Yeah, it's a fascinating account. You know, like I said, I think you got a look at these things most people would want, you know. I think most encounters, you know, they're fleeting glimpses. They are accidental type encounters.

But you do hear these reports where people have them on their property, and they do feed them. and they do, there's a lady here in Washington State I was telling you about, and her husband's a pilot for a major airline. I won't say which one, but, and they claim to have them on their property, and he told me all sorts of things about them. What they ended up doing was feeding them down on a picnic table a little bit farther away from the home, but they quit coming up to the home. They kind of quit, you know, she goes out there and feeds them every night. She says they come out, come out on the picnic table, they'll eat, and then they quit. and they go back into the woods. And it sounds unbelievable to people listening,

but, you know, your encounter, much like this encounter, there's a lot of little details that are real, that are absolutely real details. Well, you know, she said that they, she said, when she showed me that garden, she said, this is my side of the garden, that's theirs. She has, I mean, she told me that they feed her horses, you know, put the feet out in the little, the trough.

I don't know if you call them troughs, but in the horse feeding thing, I'm not big up on the country, on the farming words, but, you know, she said that they put the feed out for her, because she's old, and these bags are heavy. She said they put the feed out for her. They, they, the wood, I don't know if they, I guess, I don't know if they chopped the wood, but, you know, they bring her wood. They stack it up, you know, she had a big pile of wood on the side of her house. All the feed that was in the, in the, in the barn was,

you know, it was stacked up. It wasn't what you call a perfect stack, but it was all stacked up. And, you know, she says, you know, she stocks the pond. And, you know, she says that when they hunt, that they, you know, they'll bring her meat.

She had, she had country hams hanging up in the barn. She had like, I mean, it was a whole roll. It was probably 10 or 15 country hams. I know it wasn't for, I know this whole lady wasn't going to eat that much ham. Unless she sold it, you know, there's a lot of people do that here. But, you know, I think it was for them. It is just like, to me, she had a, I mean, they were her family.

And I'd say, you know, if somebody came out there messing with him, she would, she probably wouldn't take it to, handling. Yeah, it's interesting. Like I said, I've had other people on. I mean, I had a guy on one time. He talked about his mom having these things around his property. And it was fascinating because he had mentioned the gathering of wood. He said they were out trying to get fire. wood. You know, they're very poor. We didn't have any other way to heat the home, so they're out getting firewood. And they heard one of these creatures. They ended up going back next morning they get up, and there's a stack of firewood. That would have taken three or four grown men to gather and collect and bring. And it was sitting outside of the home. And for the longest

time, no one could figure out who brought all that wood, where did it come from? And so, you know, even some of that stuff, you know, people might listen to that and go, oh, come on. you know, these things are, you know, basically caretakers of the property. They're doing this and the – but you hear some of this stuff in other accounts, and you don't really know what to make of it. You know what I mean? And if she's – I mean, that's what they – they were caretakers for her.

They took care of the property more than she did. And that's – I mean, you could – if you were in my situation, you've seen it, you know, you could tell this old lady couldn't – she couldn't stack all this up in here. There's no way in hell she could. Yeah. I'd have trouble doing all that. I hear you. Well, it's a fascinating.

A fascinating account, and I really appreciate you taking the time to share it, Anthony. I know you didn't really want to come on the show, and I know I bade and pleaded with you to come on the show. But I'm really glad that you did. You know, it's another piece to the puzzle, you know what I mean? I mean, you have no idea how good this feels to get this off my chest. I told my girlfriend about it. Yeah, I'm sure she belates me. but, you know, it feels good to talk with somebody that's also,

you're the first person I've got to talk to that's also had an encounter, you know what I mean? So you know where I'm coming from. Yeah, no, absolutely. And I thought it was fascinating. I was so glad that you shared it because rarely these encounters are hard to get, like I said, and I know it sounds like I'm complaining and moaning and I guess I am, but these type of encounters, it's really hard to get people to come on and talk about it. because it sounds so crazy, you know, and that's the part that I love, especially when I was talking with you, Anthony.

And I kept telling you, just relax. It's, you know, I'm just listening. And I know you were thinking, God, do what's going to think I'm nuts. But as we're talking, what cracked me up is throughout the whole conversation, you're like, you're not going to believe this, but this is what happened. And this sounds unbelievable. Yeah, no, no. But I'm so happy when you call, because I hear your voice every day.

I probably hear your voice more than I do my girlfriend. I mean, I follow, this is guys, I fall asleep with the headphones in my area. You know, when I first started, I don't even know what made me even, you know, start thinking about this again because it had been so long. And this has just started going on since like maybe October or November of last year. So, you know, past five or six months, you know, I didn't know other people had encounters with them. You know, I'd never even heard nothing. And I was just on YouTube one day and it said something bigfoot and I got on it and I found your show.

And it's been nice. Well, I appreciate it, brother. Thank you so much for listening and thank you so much for sharing. Oh, yeah. Thank you. Thank you for having me on. And to all the people out there that don't believe me, I mean, I don't blame you. But all I can do is say what I know.

Absolutely. Thank you again, Anthony. And that's it for tonight. Everyone, remember if you've had an encounter, You mean email. My email address is West at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. Until next time, everyone. The country faster than the coronavirus and over antidote. I'm Tom Martin, and I'm a veteran sports analyst and respected sports handicapper who helped build ESPN's brand. I've been recognized and awarded by Pro Football Weekly and Gaming Today magazine as the honest handicapper. Let the other guys

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