Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:436 Hell itself opened up and unleashed a beast

Episode Date: May 20, 2018

A listener writes "I sent you an encounter that has left me terrified and I look to your show for answers and my experience was in freaking Iowa. I'm a rational man,this display of what I'm trying to this day to grasp was unlike anything I can compare. I have listened to many of your shows and what happened to us hasn't quite hit the mark.i have a horror show to tell and I have more questions than answers. My whole life this creature only excited in Rudolph the red nosed reindeer and growing up in Nebraska where you can see for miles I of course felt safe. What I thought is a Crack from hell itself had opened up and unleashed a beast unlike anything I could understand. My perspective is so much different than what I have been listening to is well close but this beast wanted to invoke sheer terror. This creature was almost 10 feet high and wrecked an oak tree. It was only 30 feet away bellowing out a sound that I can only describe as prehistoric. We had a bonfire burning for maybe 5 hours while moving these people into an old farmhouse. It must have smelled the fire. It was like a horror movie. We put the fridge in front of the back door and ran to the front room to block the front door and there was a giant window. We were to afraid to make any noise so we waited and watched tire dwindle. Nothing else happened but we watched for what seemed like days waiting for this beast to walk right through the house and certainly devour us. We found only a destroyed old oak that had spread branches and bark,it's limbs as thick as my waist twisted and cracked from the main trunk. This was true terror. I think these things should be treated as homicide maniacs…"

Black thing go from left to right, and I thought, I'm going to die out here and no one's ever going to know. I couldn't believe what my eyeballs were showing me. I'll never forget how evil the eyes were. It was horrible. I mean, I've never seen nothing that evil. It ran towards me at a rate that I can't even explain, turned and stared at me, and this look of, I just want to kill you. I want to say it was human, but it wasn't.

He was yelling at me to grab a gun, grab a gun. I was like, for what? He said, just grab a gun. And there's footprints all the way to the door of my house. It had went inside my garage all the way to the door. 911, what are you reporting? Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about six foot nine, I don't know.

Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right at him. Uh-oh. You're listening to Sasquatch Chronicles. Check us out online at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. If you've had an encounter, email me. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. Welcome to the show, everyone.

Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show planned for you tonight. You're going to be talking to Patrick, and Patrick comes to us from Iowa, and he had a terrifying night out there. He was helping his girlfriend move at the time, and they decided after they got unmoving everything, they sat around the campfire, and one of these creatures approached and just went nuts.

It was a hell of a night. And one of the things that's fascinating about this type of encounter, I always warn people, you never know who you're going to run into or what you're going to run into, and it may not be the friendly forest giants when you're out there. You may come across one that's in a bad mood, and it'll strike terror in you when these things go off, and Patrick experienced that firsthand. So we'll be talking to him tonight.

If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member, get additional shows. It's a cool site. So if you get a chance, check it out. I hope to see everyone at the International Bigfoot Conference. I know it's coming up August 31st, September 1st, and 2nd.

If you get a chance, go to the International Bigfootconference.com, get your tickets. Hope to see you guys out there. And if you play poker, we'll dance. You'll probably beat me, but we'll dance. I hope to see you guys out there. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Patrick to the show. Patrick, thanks for coming on.

Thank you, Wes. Thanks for having me. Yeah, I appreciate being here. And I'm very excited to hear this full encounter. I know what happened out there in Iowa. So if you would, would you kind of start from the beginning and walk us into this encounter? How long ago did it happen? What were you guys out doing?

And then if you would, just kind of walk us into the whole thing. Well, just like everybody does and we never like it. My girlfriend and I are, she's like, please just help us. You know, they don't have any money. And they had to move practically overnight. We had to have it done within 24 hours they were being evicted. So, of course, we had to help them, you know, move. I had to buy the beer.

I had to buy the pizza because they had any money. You know, it's a typical move thing. We started moving about, oh, I'd say about 4 o'clock in the afternoon. And it was March, probably second week of March, about 2007. very cold, probably 30 degrees, 25 degrees, pretty cold winter. There wasn't a whole lot of snow on the ground, but there was, you know, a little bit of snowpack here and there. We've been moving a couple hours, and I decided, well, let's make a big bonfire and maybe we'll,

you know, hang out and have some burgers afterwards. We'd been moved about three or four hours, got all the big stuff in, and the girls put it in a radio. And they'd turn out playing music and hanging everything up. We're oblivious to everything. They had the music so loud. And they were in just one room. They didn't know what we were doing.

We were outside building up the fire. And we'd had it going. Oh, this thing was huge. We've been dragging trees out of this stand to draw trees, some deadfall, and whatever else we could find, poured some gas on it, turned it into a giant bonfire. Super hot. So we kept moving. We stopped and go outside and have a beer once in a while.

It was a little picnic cable. And, well, it was pretty much an average move. Well, it was way out in the middle of nowhere in this little, just a little dot down, maybe a thousand people, I'm not even sure. Well, we moved until about 2.30 in the morning, maybe 3 o'clock. really late because they really needed this done. We're all tired and just

I'd have enough. Want to go home. Let's go out and have beer you guys. Let's get out of here. We put all the beer in the snow. There's a little snow drift out there over the air was just, roaring still. Flames were probably

seven, eight feet high. The wind kept shifting back and forth so we'd have keep moving to get the smoke away from us. I'd put my foot on the picnic table bench pop the beer cap just about to take a drink. And from behind the fire, probably 20 yards, there was a big old oak tree that somebody planted maybe a hundred years ago, just gorgeous tree.

This thing just came to life. It was incredible. The tree limbs were probably 40 feet long, and they were just, it was just, it was like being in a horror movie. This one tree limb went up into the darkness, just you couldn't see it. And then right down next to the fire, and there were three parts and bark and just flying. And then the next thing was this ungodly, this unholy war, just a, I don't even have a word. It was so loud. It just vibrated your body. and all I wanted to do was just run.

You had to stay. I'm thinking, what kind of hell am I in? What is this? You know, you just, I didn't know what I was looking at to see what was going to concentrate. I just, what? And another, the tree limbs were just up and down and crashing and just couldn't make heads or tails of it. My mind is like, run, but I'm the kind of person where I'm the kind of person where I need to know what I'm looking at. But my body said, you're going to be torn to pieces.

Prehistoric fear. It just something was, it said go. But on the firelight, there was this, and it was probably 10 feet tall. It was had to be outside the fire. You could just make out the silhouette. I have never in my life, a character believed in anything like this. This guy next to me, and his eyes were as big as saucers, and I think he was screaming. I couldn't tell because I couldn't hear him, and he was frozen. God, it felt like forever. This thing just so loud, snapped, and I think he ran around the picnic table completely, screaming, and I grabbed him.

If I hadn't grabbed him, this guy would have went. He was just, he'd lost us. He was gone. We went right into the house. It was happening. when it's something like this. Yeah, it's terrifying. Trying to put answers to what's going on in the moment.

But while you're trying to figure it out at the same moment, you're hoping you don't die in the process. You know what I mean? It's terrifying. I have never known terror. I watched horror movies my whole life, but it's never been conveyed like this. I was petrified beyond belief,

but I didn't even know that feeling. I didn't know what that felt like. I didn't know what this thing wanted. I didn't know why it was doing this. It seemed like forever. I mean, this poor tree, the bark was just flying off of it. I mean, this was a big old oak tree, and the limbs were snapping, and the width of these tree limbs were as big as my waist.

And you could hear the core of the tree cracking. It was torturing this tree. and it was scaring the life out of us. And I don't know what it wanted, why it would do something like that. We weren't doing nothing. We were talking quietly by a fire. And I know this thing. It had to have smelled this fire from God only knows how far away.

It was roaring. You could practically forge steel in this fire. We'd had it so hot all day. It had been going for so long. I don't know where it came from. and I never want to see it again. It was a giant. It was, you could make out just barely like the fletted by the flames.

It was like something you'd see in a horror. It was just incredible. Yeah, I hear you. Was it on two legs when he saw it, or was it down on all fours? No, it was these three limbs, and these three limbs were, I couldn't reach them, I could barely reach them standing in the back of a truck. They were so high. And they were probably, I would say, six feet apart and facing.

And was it screaming or was it roaring or a little bit of bolt? It was, it wasn't really, it was a low, super, like an angry, raw, just a terrible. Like, it gave, wanted us to know it was there. It's the loudest thing, not every night, but most of the time, I'll get up no night and check all the windows. this thing has really traumatized me. Yeah, I can imagine, especially an encounter like this, to where you're doing nothing to provoke it. And you know, to break an oak tree is,

oaks pretty hardy. It's one of the toughest woods to actually, you know, bend and break. It was only maybe 30 feet away at the most. It was right there. And I didn't hear a single sound. This thing crept up on us like, I couldn't believe it got to drop on us. It was we had gone down into this draw to pick up lumber, whatever, to feed the fire.

And it was full of, you know, just old dead wood. And every step you took, there would be a snap or crackle or there was leaves and rustling, whatever, down there. It just didn't make sense. This thing, I don't know how long it had been there. I don't know how many of them there were. What is motivation? Why would do that? Yeah, I want to ask.

ask you, so you guys get up, you guys run to the house, and what happens next? Oh, here, guys. I said, what about the front door? And he's like, oh, my God, it gets up, and he runs in the other room, and he stops, and he goes, you need to come in here right now. Like, what about the, he goes, no, just come here. I go into the other room, into the front room, it's ridiculous. It's six feet by six feet, it's giant. It's like we're dead. We're just dead. And so we went back into the kitchen, which had turned all the lights off.

And we're towards the fire. And here come our girlfriends. They've had the radio, and they don't know what's going on. They're what are you guys doing? Well, you didn't hear that? No. And we tried to describe what we had heard and what we'd been through. Like, you must have seen the coyote.

We knew what it was. It was unmistakable. There was no way it could be anything but what it was. And they were just mad. The beer's outside. You need to go get it. I will never go outside again. No, we're not going out there until the sun comes up.

And they were, it was like, well, I'll go out there. No, no, no one is going out there. It's irritated the back door, and we locked ourselves. into the, there's one room with no windows. And they weren't happy about it, but they didn't experience what he, him and I had, I mean, we were literally, we felt like we were just about to be dinner. And I think if we had have gone in any wrong direction, we might have been. I don't know what the same wanted.

I just know that whatever it was, I don't know. That's one thing that's plagued me for years. know what it wanted. Why would it do that? Did it want the fire? Did it want to just warm up on the fire all by itself? I don't know. It was doing fine. It snuck up on there. We never knew. But man, it just unleashed holy hell on us. And I never want that to happen again. Yeah, I can imagine. I can imagine. Did you, so did it leave or was it around the home the rest of the night? to look out the windows, we were so scared. We thought it was going to just walk right through the house.

This thing was so large. So it was the biggest thing I've ever seen. I knew it could just go right through this old house, this cracker box of a farmhouse. It could just tear right through it, like titterbox, just come right through it. And all we did was just barely look out the window at the fire. You know, we didn't hear anything. We didn't smell anything. Not even a crackle, nothing, nothing.

I don't know. And we were just petrified beyond belief. There wasn't any way we were opening that door for anything. We weren't going to call the cops. We didn't even have a phone. Yeah, terrifying. Reminds me of the account, and you've probably heard the show, Patrick. I did with the gentleman who was out hunting.

And this is like in the early 60s. And he's out hunting. And he's probably about, I'll have to go back and listen to the show. I want to say he's about 100 feet from this thing. And he turns around. And what he describes is he describes this half man, half chimpanzee thing. But the one part of his encounter that reminds me of yours is it was grabbing everything. It could grab tree limbs, everything, breaking them, shaking them, and just going nuts and roaring at him, just screaming at this guy.

and he's looking at it and he had done nothing done absolutely nothing to set this thing off. It's not like he was taking pop shots or he was actually scouting for hunting is what he was doing. Then he'd only gotten about 100 feet away from his truck and this thing just was going nuts

and it actually did end up attacking him. So it's, you know, I think that is your, that's one of the last things they do before they actually attack you. They'll do a display and if you don't leave, someone's getting it. I think we were very close to being shredded, just torn to pieces, because this guy I was with was too petrified to move, and then he ran practically in towards it, and I don't understand

how that, why would anyone do that? He was, I don't think I've ever seen anyone that scared in my entire life, and he almost ran towards it. I had to grab him and pull him in the right direction, and, I mean, this thing was so incredibly loud. I can't even compare it to anything. I was at the zoo, Henry Dorley Zoo in Omaha is great. And I was there one time. And I had, it was like 100 degrees, super hot day. And I had squirted some water on a Bengal tiger. They were outside just, they were hot. They were angry. Just very unhappy. And this thing backed up and ran towards me and did it good. And half the zoo came running over to see what

it happened. And that's, that was a minuscule sound compared to what I heard. This thing had pipes like I couldn't, I, I can't even imagine. I didn't know anything like that existed. You know, big from Nebraska, we don't, you see the film, the Patty film and you go, well, that's your problem. I'm never going there. We live in Nebraska. We don't have that, whatever that thing is. That's all. You know, it's just something we don't dwell on. because we have virtually planes. There's nothing. A few trees here and there,

but mostly it's just flat field. Same with Iowa. Trees here and there. I don't know how this thing got to where it was. It just boggles to mind. I don't understand it. Well, I want to ask you, did you ever talk to your ex or her family and said,

hey, listen, here's what we ran into. You guys need to start talking. What's going on out here? Yeah, I've tried. She's like, fine. If you think you saw it, that's fine. No, for sure. I saw this giant creature,

and I'm never going back there ever again in my life. You shouldn't either. And as a matter of fact, she told me they stayed, I only think they stayed the weekend, and then they moved away from there. This house had been abandoned for, I think, maybe that's why. I don't know.

Because it was a farmhouse, probably 10 miles away from. of a river that go on either side of this town, and they must travel that route. I don't know. Maybe, I don't know what they do or where they go. Then furious. Yeah, it's tough sometimes, you know, when you, and I was going to ask you the question, but I think I already know the answer, but why it would go off like that.

And in some situations, they just do, and there's no rhyme or reason behind it. Well, I think these things have been around so long. They're probably so inbred that. Various mental, it's what these things are capable of. Well, you saw it with the oak tree, they're definitely capable of a lot. I couldn't have done that with a pickup truck and a log chain. Yeah, I know, I know, trust me. And I've tried, so I know firsthand.

That's just sheer power. That's just sheer power. This thing was an abomination, a giant monster. I couldn't, my mind was trying to tell me, this is not what you're looking at. That's got to be something else. It's got to be some kids playing that prank, but there's no way. There's nothing on God's tree on earth that can create a sound that loud. And they also moved these, this poor tree, just turn it into garbage.

Literally, I mean, there was, there was bark. You could hear this tree just the inside of this old oak just groaning and crack. And that morning, the sun came up. I moved the refrigerator away from the door like it did any good, you know, and I looked out and as poor guys with me, he's like, dude, are you sure? Well, we got to go somewhere, you know. So I go back there and the tree's wrecked. It's just destroyed.

And behind this tree is a ravine that goes down about 20 feet. And it goes back for 50, 60 yards like that. this thing easily. I didn't have the presence of mine to go looking for hair or footprints or I didn't care. I wanted the way. And the one thing we did do, I had my girlfriend back her truck up and I stood in the back of the truck bed and I could just barely reach these limbs. And I said, well, explain this. She's like, well, I don't know. She was in total denial. I don't even know. And there was bark everywhere. And the core of this tree, you could smell fresh wood when it's cracked.

You could smell it. You could see the cracks through this poral tree just, oh, gosh, it was just, I couldn't have done that. I don't know how I could have created that with any kind of power tools other than a bulldozer. This thing is just, I didn't know these things existed. I never cared. and now all I want to do is stay away from any kind of forest. Yeah. Well, I can understand that.

Once you know what's in there, you don't want ever to come across one of these again. And I can definitely understand that. I think most people could understand that your feelings on it. And you're right. When you do have an experience like that, it's, and you'll find, Patrick, how many years back did this happen? 2007. 2007. And you've listened to probably some shows.

So it'll drive you nuts. I mean, you had an encounter way before I did. But after you have an encounter like this, and then you hear of someone who had more of a gentle, like they ran into, you know, the gentle forest giant, it almost will drive you nuts because you're like, no, not even close. These things, you know, and you had that mentality of what they are. And I went through that for a long time. I had a very hard time.

Someone said it looked human or was gentle. I almost wouldn't listen to them just because it was nothing like what I had experience, but not every experience is like that. You know what I mean? The problem with that is when you ask them what do you think it is. Well, that varies with the encounter. If it's a violent encounter, it's a monster. Yeah, of course. If it's a berry picking, peaceful, happy encounter where they just, you know, waved back and they're all smiles, then there's some sort of primate that, you know, maybe needs some love or some hot dogs. I don't No, you know, to feed them whatever.

It just varies. But I know what I saw. And this thing is just short of a homicidal killer. Like if we were to let somebody that's committed a triple murder out of the prison and just throw them in the forest and call him a myth. He didn't exist. He just throw them out there. And, well, people come up missing. We don't know.

I don't understand the thinking behind that. I know they're there. A lot of people do. How do we fix it? How do we address that? It just terrifies me that this thing is allowed to roam the earth and then just eat it will, whatever it wants, whenever it wants. Talk about it. You're ostracized.

Oh, that's not real. Well, it doesn't make sense to me. It really doesn't. I just don't understand why it's that way. Yeah, I think a lot of it depends on your. your experience with them. And you even see that with the Native Americans. I know everyone looks at the Native Americans like they know everything and they don't. What's fascinating is when you start looking at Native Americans, it depends on their encounter with them is how they'll

speak about them. If it's somewhat friendly, while they're the big brother, they're the boss of the woods, they're the forest friends. The Apaches, though, will tell you a different story. They'll tell you to kill every one of them you see. They have no love for them. So it really depends on what tribe you talk to as far as how they're perceived these creatures. You know, some of them will talk to them like they're cannibals. They eat people. We want nothing to do

with them. Which I'm sure they are quite capable of because you're running around naked in a forest. You know, I don't know if they can discern that's my brother over there, whatever. You know, I don't know what kind of intelligence level they have. But the end breeding,

you also get cannibalism with that. You know, it's literally like the hills have eyes. It's, it's, these things are, they're just bad. There's nothing good that came out of them. They eat, they sleep, and they make more. That's all.

You know, the intelligence they have is just enough to keep them hidden. And I don't like it a bit. Yeah. Well, I'm with you. I'm definitely with you on your feelings on it. And it's, you know, from doing the show, I think I've come to the conclusion.

Not every encounter is going to be like that. And I know, not every encounter is like that. But I understand the way you feel, trust me. If there's anyone on the planet that understands exactly what you're saying, it's me. And I'm with you on a lot of what you say. I wanted to ask you, and then you brought it up earlier, what do you think that they are, Patrick?

What's your honest opinion? They are, because I didn't get a lot of people did, but these things are a long time. We just can't deny the things have been around for, and they're very good at what they do. They've been breeding with whatever. they can get their hands on. And sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

We don't know what was successful along the line. And that is what's frightening because I've heard the Indians have been, you know, raided and they take the women and God only knows what they do to them. But over time, when you rape enough different things, who knows what's going to, kind of abomination is going to come out of that. and if it's successful once, then you've got that trait in the line, in whatever bloodline, and then you can successfully pass it along. It just depends on successfully breed with.

And I'm sure, well, they're animals. They try and breathe with everything. I used to go out to ladies night on Thursday. I would find anything. But these guys, you know, that's what animals do. They breed, they make more. and if you look similar to them, they're going to try. And over time, they could be a combination of many things

because that's what they do best. They make more of them. So what I think they are is a combination of whatever successful breeding, I just can't put that together. Yeah. And it terrifies me to even think what they are because they're animals and what they, oh, yeah. Yeah, it makes you wonder, though, like with your encounter, though, Patrick,

you know, the way it came in, if that would have been a grizzly bear, you guys would have been dead. If that would have been a cougar, you guys would have been dead. But what interests me about encounters like this is they come in, obviously if they just keep going, you're never going to hear them. I mean, I think probably could have just kept walking. You would have never heard it. Right.

And whether it snuck up on you or not, but either way, you guys didn't know what it was there. So what's a point in making yourself known? And it's almost, it's curious because it's almost like, and maybe you have a different opinion than me, but when I hear the encounter, it's almost like they're itching for a fight. I'm going to show up, I'm going to scream, I'm going to bust this tree apart so you understand what you're getting involved with here. It's almost like provoking a fight for no reason. And animals don't, normal animals don't do that.

you know, if it would have been a grizzly bear, you guys would have been dead. Cougar? Or it would have taken food or whatever. Yeah, I wanted to terrorize us. And if it would have done that to a herd of deer, they would have scattered and maybe there were half a dozen of them around waiting for them. They'd be too terrified to even understand whether they were. They'd run into, you know, whatever trees, and they can be scooped up easily.

You know, that's what, over the years, I thought, you know, this thing, either it wanted to just be left alone by this fire so it could warm itself up, and it was so close to us. And that in itself is ridiculously terrifying, but it didn't have to do what it did. Now, when it did, it exposed itself. and that even I have more questions why why would what why would it do that

you know it knew it was you know the dominant male of all of anything around us because it was as big as a dang the house

it needed to impose itself on us I don't know I can't I can't put myself in its mind why it did that still plagues me. There are probably a lot of simple answers, but there's only one right answer, and I don't know it.

Well, I think a lot of times, too, in situations like this, and probably some of the audiences are going to like what I'm about to say, I think sometimes they get off on terrorizing people. I think they enjoy it sometimes. You hear about them around people's homes banging on the doors, coming up to the kids' windows, and I think sometimes they enjoy terrorizing you. They're not really looking for, you know, obviously I think they'll kill you and eat you if given the opportunity. But I think the other side of the coin is it's not so much that they're looking to kill or eat you. It's terrorizing you.

Enjoy watching you freak out and run. And you hear a lot of encounters like that where they will come out and they will just flat out terrorize someone, but they won't attack. But they'll tear it in a way to, well, I guess that's what I'm trying to say. is what I said. I think they enjoy terrorizing people is what I'm trying to say. I think you may be right. I mean, this thing, it had done it before. It was very good at what it was doing. And I think it just wanted us either away or it was enjoying it because it put everything it had into it. It was quite a, it was, I have never, I could never imagine a display like that anywhere. And it's important it at all.

I've seen like silverback gorillas do their displays, and it's, it's impressive. And, you know, there are lots of impressive creatures that do stuff, but this was, it just destroyed this giant tree. And it was so loud. I don't, the English language doesn't have a word for that kind of sound. It's just, it's so impossibly, you can't even tell someone. convey how loud that was. It's like going to a Metallica concert and standing in front of that big PV amp. That's not even close.

It's similar that it vibrates your internal organs a little, but this thing. Yeah, I understand. I understand completely. It's like getting hit with a baseball bat. That's how I described. Even the growl, and it didn't roar at us. It growled at us. And I'm telling you, even if you go close.

a very sinister growl, the sound that comes out of it. I mean, it's not like from a throat. It's almost from a stomach is the type of sound it puts off. And it's a very large... I get completely what you mean. Did you and your, that buddy of yours, did you guys ever compare notes after that night? We talked that morning.

And he's like, man, I... And he was just... He had a weaker mind than I did. And he had a weaker mind than I did. was just destroyed destroyed i don't think he could comprehend what happened to him i could see him mentally just collapsing wow i'm backing out of this mess i good luck and i just get me home and let's get the heck out of here i that poor guy he i never saw him again either one of i never wanted to i didn't know him very well it's like sticking your hands

and in the fire. I ain't going back into that mess, and I'd never wanted to. I never went to that part of aisle again. I never want to, and I don't talk about it with anyone because they look at you in the, you're out of your mind. Hey, what are you crazy? How can anything get, you know, they think that the entire country is covered with people and there's no way they can get past us, and, you know, you get up at three in the morning and see how many people are outside. It's pretty simple to figure out these things work best at night. They can walk right through town. You wouldn't hardly know.

There's enough cricks to go through a lot of these small towns. They could just follow the creek right through, and you'd never know. Yeah. I agree. And it's amazing because, you know, when they used to deliver papers, if you read on the BFRO thing, there's a lot of guys out there who are delivering papers 3 o'clock in the morning, especially out here in Washington, and you'd be amazed how many of the papers always saw this creature that early in the morning.

And you're right, there's no one else out. I mean, you'd be hard pressed to see their car come by until about 6 a.m. in a lot of these places. So I tend to agree with you. I think that they follow the waterways. I think they're closer to towns than people think. And I think they're closer to people's properties

than they think. And I got a sneaky suspicion if you were able to talk to your ex-girlfriend's folks, they probably would have told you they had some strange things happen around that property. They may not come out and say it's Bigfoot, But I guarantee they probably had some strange things going on around that property. And maybe it was something different.

Maybe the creature had been watching that property for a while. And you guys were different. You guys had never been there. A bunch of males sitting around the fire. And you see these things. They tend to do that. When the husbands show up, when people have these things around their property, it's a husband, wife, and let's say some kids.

Well, when the wife and the kids are there, it's one interaction. When the husband shows up, all of a sudden it gets aggressive. And it makes you wonder if it's just another, they see us as another male showing up, and so they want to present their dominance. And I almost wonder if that maybe what was going on there. It's hard to say. I'm all speculating. It's a possibility.

There are so many ways to go with this. Ultimately, that creature is the only thing that knows the answer to this. and one day it's got to be answered. We have to solve this. I really don't agree with having a homicidal killer wandering free. Do we do that with our humanity? No, we stoop them up and throw them into prison for life. And just because it's an animal doesn't mean it's allowed to eat, you know,

it's allowed to eat people. It's just wrong. and to bury that and pretend it doesn't exist and ostracize people that have seen it is even worse. It's a killer. It kills and it kills. It eats whatever it wants. I think there should be a bounty on these things, and that's all. Get rid of them.

That's how I feel. I hear you. And like I said, I understand the way you felt after my own encounter, Patrick, my famous saying at the time, which I wish I would have never said it, But my famous thing at the time was kill them all and let God figure it out. Because that's the way I felt. I felt like every one of them should be executed and, you know, let God figure it out. But, you know, those same people who, even the Bigfoot people will tell you, well, you know, a grizzly bear can kill you too or a cougar can kill you too. Well, yes, that's true.

But if I'm in grizzly bear country, I'm going to take precautions because there's grizzly bears around. Everyone knows it. Same thing with cougars. If I'm out here in Washington State, I'm well aware of my surroundings, and I know there's cougars out here the size of me walking around on four legs. The problem with Sasquatch is people don't acknowledge it exists. And so you get in situations like you're in. And what the hell did we just run into? We just had the, as you put in your email, you know, hell just opened up and unleashed a beast on us.

And that's how a lot of people feel when they run into them. These creatures, they're diabolical. They don't, they plan. They know they have just enough intelligence to make them dangerous. A cougar doesn't. Cougar just goes and eats, you know, whatever. These things plan. A cougar doesn't terrorize.

A bear does not terrorize. They just go and eat. They do what they do. They don't stalk. They don't hide. They're omnivores. swell, the bear, I know what they're doing. They don't, they, they, they're ninjas, man, they go, we should have heard this thing. It was a mammoth giant. It was almost as tall as the house.

We should have heard something. Nothing. Not a thing. And you don't just get in there and do something evil. I just don't see it the way other people do. No, I understand. I do. I just want these things gone. There's no good reason. to have them around. What's the good and study in this thing? It just if you want to study it, put it in a damn zoo. I don't think having them wandering around the

countryside is a good idea because, well, they kill, they kill your livestock, they kill whatever's close. And that's fine because that's what mammals do, but these things, they're just nasty. I'm sorry, I just

after what I went through, this thing is, he's on my I hit last time. Yeah. And I'm sure he had a, I don't know if they have a sense of humor or not, but if he did, he probably laughed for weeks because we were, we ran our pants and just blind like old girls. This thing had us.

Oh, dear God, it was horrible. Gosh. Yeah. Just even thinking about it, this thing, it may, it had, it was so loud for so long. I have never, I could even conceive of a, a mammal doing that. It's just incredible. Yeah. Does you know that that's out there, just wandering or anywhere at once.

Yeah, no, I understand. And I understand, like I said, I understand the way you feel. It's, I think when you've had an aggressive encounter and you've had something like what happened to you, you have a different mindset than most people. You know, I've had encounters where people run into these things, and it's somewhat of a friendly, you know, the creature really doesn't want to engage with you, but it's not being aggressive with you, and it just kind of gets up and walks off. And that's the thing in this situation that's so odd,

because these things almost have personalities like humans. I'm not saying they're humans, but what I'm saying is, you know, you run into one guy, a human, and he's going to, let's say he's a dick. And then you run into another guy that's a pretty nice guy, and he's pretty patient, and there's no rhyme or reason for the difference between the two. And you brought up...

That's exactly right. then, but just the one is my only encounter. And I understand, I've listened to your show for about three months now, and I have heard such a wide variety of these encounters. It's just, and people that want to go back and see more, I mean, sure, there's a Mr. Nice Guy, Bigfoot. And then, but I think there's been such, I'm sure they don't get married and have kids and hang out in certain areas.

They're animals. They're animals. They do what animals do. Otherwise, they'd be walking around in jeans and getting jobs. Well, they're not. They run around naked and they have sex with whatever's close. Period. And there's no such thing as a nice animal.

You know, they might have nice tendencies occasionally, but the product of inbreeding and being an animal, you're going to get animal behavior. It can be nice today, or in an hour, it can, you know, shred you to pieces. It's just, it's just wrong. There's no right about it. They don't, I don't care what other people say. These things are, you know, good for a minute or two, but ultimately, it's going to, it's going to do bad. There's no good reason for them to be around. That's how I feel. Yeah, I understand. I understand. And like I said, I mean, I've talked to guys in the military that claimed to have killed them. And they described, one guy told me they're abominations. And I said, what do you mean by that? And he goes, I don't know how to make any clearer West. They're abominations. And he had no love for him either. He thought every one of them should be killed. And according to him, he had killed a couple of them. But it is. It's fascinating. And like I said, sometimes they behave like animals and sometimes they don't. They're very animal-like. But there is this weird side. to them to where you hear different personalities. You hear

I don't know that every one of them is a killer, but I think every one of them could be a killer very quickly. And the other thing, too, you hear, and you witnessed it firsthand, is the short temper, the short fuse. And you hear that time and time again, even people that

think of their friendly forest giants have run into these things that did have a short fuse and wasn't going to put up with any nonsense. And just kind of went nuts on them. Going back to your inbreeding comment, I thought of doing a show on that because there has some, there has been some encounters where I thought, I wonder if that was inbreeding. There's a gentleman I had on from California, and he was talking about seeing this one, and it acted like the crazy bag lady you see on the street. You know, it's throwing its hands in the air, and it's kind of mumbling it to itself.

And I hate to say it, like you'd see like a homeless person, someone who's had some mental issues going on. And that's how he describes it. And he would watch it come out of the forest and go down this path, cross back over going into the other national forest, almost on a daily basis. And he said it would do these weird things with its hands, and it would mumble, and it would stop and kind of do quick jerky motions. Like you see someone on drugs, do quick jerky motions with their body or their hands.

And that's kind of what he saw. And I thought, could it be that there is mental illness in these things? sayings, and I guess there would be if there was inbreeding going on. I can almost say how can there's, there's deformation or retardation of a degree. And you're running around in the forest naked, you're going to have sex with whatever, be it your sister, your mother, whatever's close. Whatever, you know, over thousands and thousands of years, it's going to pop up. And these things, you know, there, there's.

just smart enough to be dangerous. Getting around that, they do exactly what animals do. It's terrifying because inbreeding very violent behavior or a behavior that radically changed over minutes to me.

I met somebody that was the product of imbreeding and he was deformed and he told me he was the product of imbreeding and he was just nutty as a fruit cake and God blessed the poor kid. He, you know, it wasn't his fault but it can really damage the bloodline over time.

Yeah, you do see a lot of aggression with inbreeding. And sometimes I wonder, especially down south, where these things are reported all the time, I often wonder there must be some major impriding going on because in some areas they're known for being extremely aggressive. You know, the ambulance driver that broke down there in Texas and all of a sudden they start getting attacked by these things for no reason. And they're just stuck.

And so it does make you wonder if there's some of breeding going on. You know, maybe in larger areas where there's more room to run around, there's probably more of them. Like here in the Pacific Northwest, you may not run into that as much as you would. Down south, where it's more pockets of forest as opposed to, you know, we have planes that crash out here and no one can find them because it's so rugged in some areas. I did hear a story about a plane crashing up there somewhere, and they went to go up and get rid of.

rescue him and there was nobody there. Something to that effect. Maybe that's an old wife's tale I heard, but still thriving. Yeah, it is. It is. And these things are frightening, and it's my warning to people. Like I said, even whatever you think that they are, even if you think they're the friendly forest giants, always be aware

of it because you might run into one that isn't the friendly forest giant. And he's going to have a short temper. And like in your case, I think you guys were close to being ripped apart. I think he was letting you guys know what he could do. And if you, like you said, he made one wrong move, you guys were dead. And we were, we were literally one step away from him. As Paul, as big as this thing was, one step. And his arms, you could, you could make out his back, his shoulders. And this thing was giant. And the lump in the center was his head. I mean,

It was just, it looked like a football player that had pads on, you know. And it was just, it was so wide. It took up so much. And it was so unbelievable. It was giant. My mind is like, no, that's not what you're looking. It's a, no. Like, it was hard for my mind to consume what I was looking at it.

Just wanted to go, nope, nope, nope, nope, that's not, I don't know what that is. It's a prank. let's not believe this, but I had to, had to see what it, and it was incredible. It was so giant. I had come across, I don't know how big these things get. I don't even care. And I've listened to your show, and mostly I hear they're like seven foot or it. This thing was ridiculous.

It was giant. Almost like your cartoon character so big, you know. I can't even give you an analogy what it would look like. It was so wide. It's wider than my truck. It was almost as tall as the house. Where did you come from? This thing was, I saw the paddy film, and that thing was just kind of a nice,

looking roly-poly off-the-charts giant. My mind couldn't conceive of what I was looking at. I just, no, no, no. Yeah, I can understand that. That's something I want to see twice. Yeah, it's terrifying. You know, it's, you know, I don't blame me for not wanting to see it again. And I really appreciate the fact that you'd come on and share it, Patrick.

I know you haven't shared it really with hardly anyone. And the fact that you'd come on here and talk about it, I'm honored by it. So thank you. I'm honored by what you do. You give people like us a voice, and I appreciate that because there are a lot of us. And what's unfortunate is the ones that aren't able to have the voice, because they had the encounter and they lost. And I'm sure there are a lot of them.

Probably more than I would like to admit, that's for sure. Yeah, that is, it is tragic. And I really appreciate taking up your time and telling you my story of, I hope other people are able to come forward and share their stories as well. I hope I do some good for other people. Absolutely. Thank you again, Patrick. And that's it for tonight, everyone.

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