Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:438 I hit one with my car

Episode Date: May 27, 2018

I am returning from the beach after a long needed break. Tonight will be a replay. I really needed to recharge the batteries. I will return next week. Bo writes "If you got time maybe give me a call sometime. I want to tell you my encounter. To sum it up, I hit one with my car when I was 19 yrs old." Spoke to the witness and he has agreed to come on the show. The encounter took place almost 20 years ago. He describes leaving an area late one night when this creature jumped in front of his car. He said he had his high beams on and saw this creature right before he hit it. He said it was a small creature and it reminded him of a baby gorilla or monkey. At the last moment he hit it and the impact caused a lot of damage. As he slowed down he heard a scream/roar from the tree line. The witness said he was terrified about what he just hit and now something else let out this scream/roar that seemed to shake his insides. The witness hit the gas and as he came around the bend he is pretty sure what ever roared at him was chasing him because he heard it again right next to the road. There is a lot of details we will discuss in this encounter. I will also be speaking to Tom who was on SC EP:319, he is returning to the show to talk about a recent encounter on his property.

Black thing go from left to right, and I thought, I'm going to die out here and no one's ever going to know. I couldn't believe what my eyeballs were showing me. I'll never forget how evil the eyes were. It was horrible. I mean, I've never seen nothing that evil. It ran towards me at a rate that I can't even explain, turned and stared at me. And this look of, I just want to kill you. I want to say it was human, but it wasn't.

He was yelling out, and he grabbed a gun, grab a gun. I was like, for what? He said, just grab a gun. And there's footprints all the way to the door of my house. It had went inside my garage all the way to the door. 9-1-1. What are you reporting? Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about 6'9, I don't know.

Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right at him. Uh-oh. You're listening to Sasquatch Chronicles. Check us out online at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. If you've had an encounter, email me. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. Welcome to the show, everyone.

Thanks for being here tonight. Starting to get my voice back. Actually, you know what, it's Friday night. Let's get a little beat going here. There we go. Friday night. Thanks so much for being here tonight. going to be talking to Beau, and Bo is extremely nervous.

He really didn't want to come on the show, and I asked him if he'd come on. I know he's a fan of the show, and so he'll be coming on tonight. He's a little bit nervous. Bo, there's definitely no reason to be nervous. But Bo had a very fascinating account that happened to him almost 20 years ago. I want to say it was 17, 18 years ago, where he actually hit one of these creatures. And he was so nervous after he hit it, he didn't know how to explain to anyone what he had actually hit. and I know in the last year or so he's been listening to the show,

and so I asked him to come on and talk about it. So look for Bow's encounter coming up here shortly. I'll also be talking to Tom, who's a member of the site. And I believe I had Tom on episode 319, where him and his brother had an encounter. And he recently moved out to a property in North Carolina, and he's actually had an activity out there, a scary encounter when he was up in his tree stand.

So we'll be talking to him tonight. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on a lot, on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. How are the members doing tonight? Appreciate you guys being here again and listening to the show.

Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Bo to the show. Bo, thanks for coming on, brother. Awesome. I appreciate it, Wes. Like I said, I just, you know, I love your show. And I just, I love how you are as first

and, of course, you know, making people feel comfortable. and I drive a truck 10 hours a day. Like I said, I listen to you all the time, you know, and your show. And after what happened to me, years ago, after listening to your show and hearing about other people out there that's in my boat, you know, it's really kind of like, kind of, like, it made me feel relaxed. It's really kind of, you know, knowing that there is this as happened to other people, you know, it just kind of, you know, really help.

Yeah, no, I hear you. And like I said, it's just you and I having a conversation. There's no reason to be nervous. And I know you are, but there's really no reason to be nervous, man. I really am a nobody. I'm just fascinated with your encounter. If you would, would you kind of start from the beginning and walk us into what happened? What did you hit?

What did you see? Walk us into this whole encounter. Thank you. Okay. All right. Okay. It kind of starts a little. My encounter happened in the year 2000, you know, it's 19 years old.

But before that, you know, the setting that there's a live here in Urbana, Ohio. There's a lake, and it's surrounded by woods that a family friend of my parents owns and has been in their family for years, and it's kind of been a camping spot for a bunch of us families to go out there and get away. It used to be an old gravel pit back in the 50s and 60s, and they kind of made it into a lake. And it's surrounded by woods. And I couldn't tell you how big it is, but it's off route four. You know, I'll tell you, that's, you know,

if you look anywhere on Google Maps, off Route 4 kind of by Springfield, you know, you'll be able to see it. I've looked at it a couple of times. So it just, you know, we've always went out there. and with my mom and dad growing up, it's just, it's, it's, it's, uh, real secluded. You know, we call it the lake and it's, it's private. They keep it, they keep it pretty private, you know, they got a gate and there's a lot of fences back there through the woods, you know, to kind of to keep it secluded, you know, and I, you know, I remember growing up, you know, just always going out there.

and always I remember now, you know, I think a lot of people back then knew a lot more about what was going on out there than what they ever told. You know, I mean, I think even my mom, you know, knew a lot too. You know, just us being kids growing up out there, always from camping. The subject of Bigfoot really wasn't talked about, you know, a whole lot, you know, especially because you're kids, you know, and it's scarce. But I know one thing, though, they'd never let us venture off in the wood by ourselves. There's always an aunt or an uncle or somebody out there who keep an eye on us. And now looking back, it always felt like something you were being watched. You know, I hear that people say that on your show, and now I look back like, you know,

I always felt the same way. But, you know, I always felt like just creepy out there, you know. All this is wildlife out there. woods for a couple miles and like I said, just real secluded. But, well, yeah, my counter, in the year 2000, at the year I graduated, through high school and everything, me and are my buddies, you know, we'd always go out there to that lake. And, you know, there is a lodge out there and a little cabin and being in high school, we take our beer and whatnot and go out there and party on the weekend.

It was our little getaway. and I couldn't tell you. I know it was warm out. It was the summer of 2000. We were out there partying, and I couldn't run to exactly what time. I know it was late, maybe one or two a. You know, at o'clock at night, one in the morning. And I remember, you know, of course, saying bye to everybody.

You know, there's a long lane that goes back to the lake. I had a 95 Pontiac Grand Dam And it was a four door I had all my windows down And I was leaving And I remember when you pull out to the gate You know where you get on to the road there I'd make a left

The head towards that's the way I would take it back to my house Well um you know being a kid probably had a buzz or whatnot You know being a stupid kid well I uh I turned left and I remember hitting the gas I'm hitting the gas really quick and kind of take it off, you know, maybe a little bit of peel. Yeah. I think one I got up. I'm sorry.

Go ahead. No, no, you're good. I was just laughing. I was like, yeah, a normal 19-year-old hitting the gas, you know what I mean? Yeah. And sometimes my Bluetooth might be like a half a second delay. So if you go to sometimes I might be off a little bit if you say something. Oh, you're okay.

Okay, cool, cool. So, yeah, I hit the gas. and took off, and I think it was about 75 to 100 yards. I got there on the road. But, you know, it's a road. There ain't really no cars on a whole lot at nighttime. And it got to probably maybe 50, 5, 60 miles an hour. You know, I got there pretty quick.

Out of the left side of the road, which was the other side of the road, coming across, and I only seen it for, like, I only had a split second to see it. It was a two foot tall. Now I know what it was. Back then, I was still lost and freaked out over what this thing was. But it was a little two foot tall, Harry. What I know now was, what you call it, a juvenile big foot, was running across the road.

And it literally ran right into the front side, the front side where my headlight is. So the car, and I kind of hit it on top of him running into it. And I remember his head is, his, His face was right there in my headlight. And like I said, I think I even had my brights on. So I've seen his face, you know, and everything. And the impact, since then, you know, I've hit a couple of years, you know, and that was some serious impact.

I didn't know how much impact them are when you hit him. But when I've hit them, lately, I look back, like, that's how much, for as little as this thing was that it was almost a distinct impact. Like this thing, while I was talking of it, running across the other side of the road, right in the side of my car,

it was a hard hit. And, you know, and like I said, all my windows were down. I don't think I had the music on real loud. But when he hit, my headlight lit his whole face up. And it was just the hard impact.

And I remember it did. He's, flew backwards. I remember him flying back. And his facial expression, it was just like, when he was running across the road, I think it wasn't like he was down on all fours, but I think like he might have been for a second, but I remember I just have this image of him being on like three, like have one of his hands down and kind of coming up at the last second, maybe to where he was on two legs when I hit him. Like he.

knew that it was coming, and I know his head went right until my headlight. And, you know, like I said, the headlight lit his whole face up. And I'll tell you the details here in a second of what I've seen. And so, and he flew back. And at this moment, I'm hitting the brakes. But one thing that stuck in my head still at this day is when I hit it and it's flying back. And I don't want how to explain it. Like, if you heard somebody, I fall on the concrete, hit their head on the concrete. You kind of hear that thump, you know, that like, again, that's, I, I, I, I swear, I heard that thump, like, when he flew back on the concrete, like, at that moment, it was, like,

right beside me, I heard that thump, like, where I fake his head just hit the concrete super hard, and, and I know I hit the brakes, and the impact was, was hard enough to slow me down a little bit, you know, and I just, I, as I hit the brakes, I, I, I, I hit the brakes. I didn't really come to a stop. I didn't come to a stop. But as I was slowing down, at that moment, I had no idea what that was, what, but I know, you know, what I seen, like I said, by high being done I caught, you know, I've seen it all, you know, his hair, it's her or, you know, as I was slowing down,

and I didn't know, I don't think I remember if I knew if I should stop. But once I got slowed down, that's when I heard a rule, that, that rule work. scream that I've heard people you guys talk about, you know, on your show. And it's one until last year that I've been watching your show and I think all this stuff that I've heard from your show I can relate back.

Like, I've heard people on your show say, you hear that scream, that roar, it rattles their insides. And for years, I swear that's what I felt. Like I just when I, you know, I think I got down to maybe, I'm guessing, 30, 35 hours an hour because I didn't know

whether to stop or to go. And that roar out of the woods, I didn't see where it was coming from, but I did hear like brush and trees moving. And, you know, I just heard that roar, you know, and I don't even, I even remember all my windows are down, and I kind of clenched up for a second, and I don't feel it was a day,

you know, I don't know how I hit the gas to go, but I hit the gas and it just totally took me shock. I didn't know what just happened. And so I'm hitting the gas. And now I'm just kind of freaking out, driving now. And now you go off, when you drive, you go up about maybe not even about an eighth of a mile, not too far down. And there's a light out of the middle of nowhere, a flashing yellow light. And for me to go back to my house, you know, I got to make a left, you know.

And it kind of, it's like a big you. Like you make a left and I got to go back. behind the lake and the woods, you know, kind of head. And it's kind of a curvy road to head back towards, you know, my mom's at that time. And, you know, after, like I said, you know, when I heard that, when I was slowing down, I heard that just that got awful roar scream. I don't know what. It was something big.

You know, like I said, I clenched up. As I got away, I didn't hear the roar. It went away from what I can remember. You know, and I know I had been drinking that night a little bit. Nothing too crazy. I've never been one to get his drunken fall over and, you know, then go drive. But at that moment, I was super sober, you know, that just, there wasn't, I don't think I was even really buzzed to begin with, but I just, I just, I wanted to clear that up.

People, you know, I don't want people think I was just out there trashed and, you know. Yeah, no, I get it. And even if you were, Bo, to be honest with you, even if you were, listen, and most of the audience can relate to this. I've had many moments where I've drank too much. I've never once had delusions of seeing monkeys or hitting monkeys ever being drunk. So, I mean, it's kind of irrelevant, but I get what you're saying. I get it.

Okay, yeah. Cool. Awesome. And, yeah, so, okay, so then as, you know, I'm getting up to that light, I'm freaking out. Like I told you, I earlier, I had tears, miser. think I was in a serious panic mode. So I turned left at the light and I'm just driving. I can't.

I was speeding a little bit. I was just trying to stay on the road because I didn't know this thing was running behind me. You know, I just seriously freaking out. And I'm kind of going, like I said, it's a big view. I actually turn left at that light kind of going back behind the lake and I'm on these curvy roads. And I know my windows were still down at that moment. I don't know why I wouldn't have rolled them up after going.

But I know they were down because when I started going around the backside of that lake, I heard, I swear, I heard something in the woods, it's all woods back there coming from that direction. And I heard that just, and one like the deep, loud screen roaring that I, when I hit that day, it was just, I can't really even, like, explain or I can't even, like, imitate it. It was just kind of like, I can't really even nymph that. But there was something like growling, naked noise coming through the woods. And it was making a loud noise, but it was just one that deep scream.

It was just maybe like maybe just the thing was just hollering or I don't, I can't. At this point, though, I was so in shock. I just, nothing was, everything was kind of blurry at that moment. I just thought a bit, but as I was slowing down going around, a curve around there, I heard it something big coming through the woods and making noise and a light roaring. Like it was running coming after me. And at that time, I'm hitting the gas and I remember getting up to speed because at that point I had a straight shot just to get out of that area. At that time, I was thinking like these things are just coming out of the woods.

Something's going on. I don't know what's going on. There's monsters in these woods coming out everywhere. but then since then looking back, I'm thinking what that was, was that creature, but just to back up a little bit, when that thing, the little one, I always wondered like, why did that thing run right out in front of my call? You know, that didn't make sense. And, you know, Todd was thinking about it. And, like, what we talked about as far as I think, you know, that maybe when people come out of that lake, you know, a lot of older people when they turn left, that's the way to head back.

to town, nobody really gets up to speed that quick. It's always just probably people, they probably have seen enough people pull out of there. They know the timing, you know, where they can cross and be out of the way. But I think by me gunning it and getting up to speed, there that's 75 to 100 yards right there. They weren't maybe expecting that, you know, and I think that the mom or dad or whoever had went ahead and crossed, the little ones straggled behind. You know, the last minute he tried to catch up, and I was already there that.

quick. And that's my little kind of conclusion of why maybe he just ran, right? I mean, it was just perfect timing that he just he literally ran into me, you know, too. And so that's what I was thinking, that mom or whoever was there that

chased me from the beginning was the creature who cut across the lake, you know, woods back there. It's not that far distance for him to run from that point to meet me again over there, behind in the lake because I know I'd go to that light make a laugh and I'm doing a big view around and he just took a shortcut straight line because that's a road everybody takes to go so I'm thinking

that thing knew I was heading that way and I swear I think I just I think I just got lucky but you never you never hear but you know I think the thing got so close to catch me and I clenched up again and I just that that sounds so crazy but you know it just that is that that is that is exactly what happened. You're lucky you didn't stop. I think you would have been in for the fight of your life if you would have stopped. I was going to say later. I was going to say, like, to maybe stuff like that happened.

Just like, but what I've heard on your show, put together, you know, it's just covered up so quick by the government. And me, you know, I get nervous. I'm talking on your show. You know, out of respect for you of what the government does to people. You know, sometimes I get a little nervous of it. talking about the government. You know what I mean?

Like, I want to do a lot of stuff. Yeah, you're breaking up a little bit, Beau. I think you're probably right. I think it was probably running you down. As far as the government goes, as you and I talked about, they don't really care about your encounter. They don't care about what you've seen. They don't care about what you've hit.

It's only when you can prove it. If you can prove it, then you're a target. You know, if you had hit that thing, throwing it in your back trunk, and now it's sitting in a freezer. Right. Yeah, you'd probably. get a visit.

But as far as your encounter goes, they're not going to mess with you, you know. I wanted to ask you, so when you saw the thing in the headlights, can you describe for the audience who hasn't seen one? What did you see? Yes. Like I said, I've seen his whole face. It was lit up. Like I took from my, I got my high beams on.

And I remember, like I said, his eyes, they did have, they were black, and they did have white around the eyeballs because his eyes were wide open. I remember his nose being like a squished nose, like an aches nose, because I've seen apes on the internet. I've looked at him and you always let him think and back, you know, it was like a squished apes, like a squished human nose kind of wide. His teeth, they didn't have no canines, but they were like ours, the square teeth. And like the forehead, the one thing that I don't know that stood out, two.

things are really stood out to me that I don't know that it just are like sickly well one of them is really sickly embedded in my head but it's just the uh the forehead where the hair come down um like like i feel like you know like how Mickey Mouse has got that little point that kind of come down that's kind of like what the hair had come down the hair cat was on his forehead and uh the other thing that that is hard to describe but when I've seen it one thing that sticks in my head It was about like how real it was like, uh, and if I, right now, if I, if that didn't have to me, if I take it a big foot, I think, you know, like nice fur, you know, pretty or whatever, but this thing was like, if you ever seen like a dead deer up close? Like, I'm sure you have me. I don't really hunt or nothing,

because I just, I've always grew up in the city, you know, and, but it, how gay me, I think is the word I want to say that this creature was, like the hair was matted. Like, you know, You see a deer laying there, like far away, they look pretty, you know, nice, pretty fur. But up close, it's like, you know, there's leaves in it, just maddened, got mudded. That's one thing I really noticed about this thing that I've been stuck in my head, which is how that just really brought it to life for me, you know. And I look at that sometimes about, like, other big books that are out there, you know, you see them on pictures or whatnot. But I bet up close, that's just, you probably, you've heard. on your show too, how, you know, you see their hair matted and dirty and probably scars.

And that's what I noticed, not scars, but I just really stuck in my head. But this thing was so real that it was just a wild animal. Like, but it was, like you say, bipedal and running. And it was so fast. This thing just shot, like, it was so quick. Like I said, it was down, maybe on all fours. It was coming up kind of on three to a stand kind of running on two legs kind of right the last second, right when I hit it, you know. And he said it was all black, the creature?

Yeah, it was definitely black to skin, the skin, the hair, everything was just black. I mean, I totally remember that. And it smashed my car. Like, I was saying, like when you hit a D or the impact, well, this impact, well, I mean, it was. busted my car completely up. The same with that is I just wouldn't think something that little would do so much damage, you know, because I think on top of it, it was running towards me. I think it was a fast speed because it was just like like, you know, how quick it just ran.

You know, I had a split second to be like, what the, you know, and then I watched it run across the other side of the road, right? It's right into my car. And, like I said, of course, it busted the headlight and the bumper and smashed it in pretty good. It just, the last I've seen of it was it flying back, you know, and at this point doing six five, six miles an hour, it being, that's when I heard his head. I had to, I know that's what it was. I heard his head just hit that concrete so hard. It was a sicken sound.

Like when somebody, you know, falls and hits the back of their head on concrete, it makes that thunk. You know, that thud? of a skull hit and caught but I heard that and then of course that roar just comes of just chaos of a scream or a roar of just and like I said I don't even know

my first intention was to hit the break and I don't even know if I would have stopped if I didn't hear that roar I still I still wouldn't stop out of that because I didn't know what that thing was but I just like I said I don't know you know

grace of God I hit the gas pedal and got out of there. You know, like I said, you know, went around that big U. And that's right. When I made, when I first heard that next kind of not as deep as the roar as I was, but when I heard the first one, you know, when I heard that thing come through the woods that I was taking that last turn on the other side of the lake, getting away, you know, I heard it, something smashing to the, and I heard it, you know, like it was on a dead run.

I wanted to ask you, when you hit the saying, did it appear to be more human-like, or was it more like a monkey or ape? I think the human features about it was it just being shaped like a human, but as far as like everything else is like an ape, you know, like the Patty film, that's, I think, what type, what kind this was, you know, because it just resembled that thing so much, you know, unlike the orangutan kind or the other types, you know,

that's definitely what I would have to say. I didn't, the human features, I just, other than like the teeth and the eyes, you know, and it being bipedal and come up to two legs right there at the end, you know, but as far as look, so, yeah, it was more definitely of an eighth-looking, and more, yeah, definitely more an ape-looking kind of big foot than the other ones, in which I think the other ones have a little more scarier looking. But, yeah, but that's when I finally got around the lake and that thing come out, right now, I never seen it.

And I'm glad I didn't, because that's what my first thought was these things are coming. You know what, until, like, later on that I kind of put two and two together, I bet that thing was chasing me and just kind of straight because he'd do a round that the cars take to go back to town. And you must let it say, you know, about the, the, uh, if it would have caught me on, you know, I'm wondering if I wanted to die and then the government wanted to cover that up. Yeah, no, I think you were lucky. You didn't stop. I think it was smart. You didn't stop.

Because like I said, I think you'd have been in the fight of your life. I really do. Was there any blood or anything on your car? Yes, man. And look, I was so scared. Okay, so I go home that night. I'll answer that. I was just going to say that when I got home, I was so freaking out that I didn't even, like, I didn't, I went faking.

Like, I knew I'd wrecked my car. I was my mom's house. My room to the basement. And my car tore up out front. And there was fur and there was blood and everything on my hood. I mean, not a lot, you know, not like I just, but it was there. And that next, I never really slept because I was, I was worried about my friends and everything that were, I still out there at the lake. I remember, you know, thinking like, just back then there was no cell phone.

I couldn't call and say, hey, get out of there. But I remember thinking, like, this thing's probably, you know, something bad is probably because it might be happening. And it's just, I'm going to go back out there, you know. So I just remember thinking, like, just praying like, God, I hope so bad don't have to them guys. you know, the next morning I got up and I ended up on my buddy, buddy's mom, he was staying with his mom. I ended up calling the house there and said, hey, did he make it back okay?

And she's like, yeah, it's truck here. He's still in bed. You must have a late one. So I was relieved there. Well, that next day, I did end up laying down and I remember my dad coming in and saying, what the, hey, should you do to your car, this and that? And being the young kid that I was,

I don't even know, I remember waking back up and shop, like, remembering what happened. His dad is yelling at me, but I don't know why. I told my dad that I hit a shopping park, and I, of course, he was like, well, what were you doing, driving crazy through Walmart's parking line? I was flicked out. You know, I'm sorry. I admit I was drinking and driving, and then I told him I hit a deer, and we went and looked at it, and that's what we looked at the blood and the hair. and I told my dad that I had hit a deer. At this moment, I did not tell him, it wasn't until two or three weeks later,

then I come to my family and explain like, hey, this is what happened. But at that time, you know, I wiped it kind of off, but there was still blood and hair on my car just where I just wiped it down. And because I told the insurance that I hit a deer to get it fixed. And, you know, and I look back. and, you know, still at that moment, I didn't know what I had hit, and I was scared. I was scared because in a way I almost felt like I hit a human, right? I mean, in a way, like, I did something that I wasn't supposed to do.

Yeah. That's why I felt like I couldn't tell dad or nobody, like, I was scared to death that they'd make you go to the police department and explain, but then I couldn't really explain what I hit. So I was just a mess, man. I did not know what to think. And I did tell two of my buddies that were out there. The owner's grandson, he always knew something to, but he never said that now that I look back, you know, everything, if I had to listen to your show and everything, I was paying a sec, you know,

everything that I've worked for your show that I look back that made sense out there. So I remember saying that's my buddy, you know, out there. They kind of, I mean, they didn't believe me, but they were like, are you sure it wasn't just a big dog or, you know, come on. I'm like, no, listen, this thing was an eight, a couple feet high, and it ran two feet on the road. And so, I mean, I was a clown, you know, I was a jokester, but really, they kind of knew that I wouldn't just make something like that. Up to tell them to try to look cool to them or so. I don't know what, but, I mean, it's just, you know, it's just really kind of, I was really messed up for, for a while, you know, because I didn't know what to think, I was scared somebody's going to show up in my door, you know, because I think was definitely an animal.

You know, if it was, I job to clear that up, if it was a human or a kid, you know, I definitely would have had to say something, you know. But I even felt bad, though, for a while, like, I know I killed that thing, you know, and I think I did. It's hard as I don't know nothing, well, other than a Sasquatch that could survive something. like that. But I just, I was really scared for a while on if, you know, if I was going to get in trouble or what this thing was, but now that I'm looking back and it went too long after, I realized I think that it was a big foot, but I didn't have nobody really to talk to about Bigfoot. And honestly, one until about a year ago, started looking up, you know, I've always just

bounced around the internet at Bigfoot stuff of pictures, but as far as people's encounters, like I said I listed a couple other different shows you know here and there but once start a list to the encounters on your show I'm like oh my god there's others out there that know what this thing was that I hit and you know big puts are they're real you know there and like a lot of things too on your show from now not to back up but you know growing up out there like I talked to you before I was we used to see a lot of lot of weird stuff out there at the lake. Ever since I was like 7, 8 years old

until 17, 18 years old, growing up at their camp with my mom and everybody. And I think a lot of people out there, like Uncle Dan's aunt and I was of the family that would stay out there in camp, I just feel like I know they knew a lot more of stuff going on out there than what they would tell us kids

because we would come across these deer carcissed. I can probably remember two or three of them right up top of my head. You know, years of being out there, I've seen multiple up, but to where their heads were, like, twisted around. And antlers, I remember one where his antlers just broke off, one of the side of his head. And I don't, I'm not a hunter, really. So I got buddies to hunt, but they don't trust me with the gun. So, I mean, like, I'm probably the guy like you, if you always talk about your brother, you know.

I get up shooting myself for Idaho now. I do dumb stuff like that. But I notice, like, you know, looking back at these deer carcasses, it's. like the guts, certain parts of the inside would be taken out. You know, guts make me sick. Bloods make me sick anyway. So I remember looking at that stuff like that. That's not like a normal.

And like I said, when in the past year that I've learned so much from your show that I can relate stuff back then. As far as like with the back leg would just be like not broke, but like ripped out of the socket. And I always sit there and I would look like a couple of times we see these tears. And, you know, I'd always wonder, like, what kind of you could do that?

You know, we would ask the adults out there, like I said, they had uncles and stuff, whoever. They'd be like, oh, no, that's just, you're leaving alone. Don't get near it. That's just, they come up with some dumb excuse, you know, like, oh, that's a, I've heard of say, coyotes, they do that to them. And I just always blew it off, like, that never made sense. I, and even, like, tree branches, big ones, you know, like trees, like trees, like trees, structure, like weird stuff out in the woods, and they may always make an adult go with us out there into the woods and everything.

It was like branches would be twisted. I would just always look at stuff out and keep the woods out there, like, well, how did that branch fall and get twisted up like that? And, like, you know, just, and like a, like, the lake, there's a couple cricks that went off it. And you always find a, like, a couple of, like, a couple of, of like little fish stuff. You know, like something was sat there and ate like fish, you know, I'm not a

fisherman either, but, you know, but you see just probably three or four fishes, you know, which all the body be ripped off, the head would be right there and it looked like it'd be skinned, like, you know, that just always this stuff back then I looked at, I always be like, what the heck on the animals do that stuff? But now I'm looking back after hearing your show, and so much has come together, which make that makes sense. And also, too, I always heard if you hear about the rock throwing thing, well, we'd always got their paintball in,

and they would never let us go out on this property by ourselves. Even if the older guys out there were younger who would come mow, they would always, you know, make sure there's two or three of them out there mowing at a time. You know, nobody hardly ever, if parents were always keeps in mind, there's always an adult around, you know, just going back to something more was going on that they do. about out there that and that you know and my mom my mom's due to later on i was going to you know

i talked to mom i talked to mom's together there's been a lot of sighting stuff going on out there over the years so that's just i definitely think that there's family or whatnot a lot of activity and it's not a real big area i mean probably a couple miles i think it'll be adventures off into other woods, but that property, you know, there's old caves and everything back in there where there an old railroad where the gravel pit used to be. It is secluded. They keep that area super private. Still to this day, it's there.

It's surrounded by the family, and they don't let nobody go back there. But another thing I wanted to tell you, I kind of touched face on it with you a little bit. My grandpa's not here no more, but it was about 10 years ago. My grandpa used to go out there with the owner. of the lake, the great grandpa who owned the lake years ago. Well, my grandpa, he used to go out there to fish with me

late at night and everything. My grandpa was out there because it was in the 70s, you know? My grandpa was out there fishing with the owner, and it was late. I know it was dark out. He told me in there a time, but I'd say maybe 11, 12, or, you know, not too late.

But, so they were out there fishing, and the owner of the lake, he said he was going and head home. My grandpa wanted to stay for a little bit longer. And my grandpa said he got to his car. He, you know, there's a long lane that goes back into, back through the woods to the lake.

And he's driving down the windy road, you know, the gravel road. And it's, he only do about five or ten miles an hour on it, you know. And he was driving out late that night. And if he, whoever leaves last, usually they'll leave the key with the people to the gate. The key to the gate, they'll leave what the people. who are leaving class if they can shut off the gate so the cars could get back there.

So I guess my grandpa also just lost the gate that night. He's actually pulling down that long lane. He said, I remember he said he kind of turned a corner also with the headlights. And he said, it was huge.

You know, he said it was black. It jumped up real quick. And I don't know if he said it did anything or the same thing, but it just jumped up and it started. He said, he's never seen nothing moving. like just like jumped over that

little gravel road and ran into the woods. You know, see, well see, this was 10 years ago, my grandpa was telling me this because I sat down with him and were playing carpet and something that got brought up about that lake out there. And I remember I asked him, I said, hey, grandpa, anything weird

ever happened out there at that lake to you, you know? And like, like I said, the first thing he said was, do you mean like Bigfoot? And that was, I was like, I was like, grandpa, Oh, dadgone, listen, you know, this is what happened to me. And that's what led to him telling me, okay, well, you know, this will happen to me.

And there's been a lot of sightings, a lot of activity out there. And he did say something that, you know, there was a lot more to it, but they just didn't want the word to get out to the community and about the big foot being back there. Not that I don't know if they were, like, cool with the Bigfoot family, or the family that owned the lake were cool with them, but just because I don't think they wanted a bunch of people on that property, maybe something like that.

But they always kept it little private. But Grandpa, when he said that, I thought, then I asked my mom about it later. Two years ago, I talked to her about, hey, grandpa told me about that big foot out there, you know. And she said, yeah, well, she remembered it was in the late 70s, where my mom was young and lived there when he had come home that night. you know he said that he was traumatized

he said he was messed up and he stopped going out there and it just it was a pretty little big deal but it wasn't they didn't you know to any kind of public with it they just kind of you know kind of left it

in the family like the you know and so uh no I'm sorry Wes I just I'm super nervous talk no no no no I get a shot to talk to you me I just I'm a nobody, man. I'm a nobody.

Oh, yeah, right, man. But I don't know. You know, I don't even have cable no more because of your show, you know. I've caught heck with my life for that, but it's turned back on now. Well, there's a while there. I didn't have cable, so I'm never there anyway. I just listen to your show all the time. As long as we've got Wi-Fi, I mean, to go on.

But, you know, I always report to your new postings on shows because, like, oh. Yeah, your phone's kind of breaking up, Beau. I know you're a truck driver. I'm kind of losing you. No reason to be nervous. I really do appreciate you sharing it. Damn fun. Well, I'm sorry.

No apologies. You kind of work up there. I think I said a plus here. It just failing me horribly. You know, I thought, I apologize. No, no, no. No apologies. I wanted to ask you, what do you think that these things are about?

What's your honest opinion? You know, I have to listen to your show. And from what I encountered, I definitely, like a lot of people say at the show, it's definitely a real animal. I mean, my car, I wish I had a picture I would show you, you know, like how real, you know, they are. Yeah, but I mean, as far as I being, like, paranormal, I don't, there's nothing I don't think paranormal about it. I think that I hate them to hear it get thrown in the same thing with paranormal because it's like, you know, you want to say, hey, there's a lion in a, and a, and a. paranormal show going on. Because that's a real animal.

It's a real animal. And I think that kind of stems somewhere from the government, like, making it out to be, like it's just a myth, you know, to kind of keep it in them, that guideline to where it's like a ghost thing. It might not be real. So, like, I just definitely, you know, I knew you'd ask you that question. I just couldn't really think of a good answer other than, like, it's like what most of your guest say that it's definitely

a real animal. And with that in for sound thing that I keep hearing about, I don't think, I mean, just my personal opinion, I just, because I don't think they have those superpowers or nothing like that.

I think that, like I've heard of other animals doing something like that, like I've heard on your show, too. I'm more or less kind of repeat you, but I 100% believe it, too, that they might let off some kind of sound or something that may be messes with their prey

something like that, you know, would be the most of it. I have heard of other animals doing that as far as like a hunting, like a weapon. But I think that would be the most of anything paranormal with it. But yeah, it's definitely

just like an undiscovered animal. I mean, it's definitely discovered. And I hear I just sound like people I was about to talk about. As far as, you know, people will say, well, it's going to take you know, them, you know, I'm not saying nothing bad at all about them. As far as, you know, heard people say that they need to drop one or they need to bring one in.

But I think there might have been, like I said, from what I've learned from your show, very educational, by the way. But, yeah, I think people have done that multiple times, and it just, when the government shows up, cleaned it up, you know, when the bank accounts get threatened, jobs, families, farms get threatened. I think people just shut up. And that's that, I think. And the whole thing on me to talk about the government so much, it just bugs me. You know, I hear of a lot of people. You know, the main reason I think, too, the government won't come out with it.

You know, from you, you know, you hear the logging companies, the national parks, all the billions of dollars they'll lose. But one thing I heard my touch base on on your show one time, and I really liked it was I think the lying part of the government, I just think that they're beyond the point now of admit it's real because they've been covering up for so long that I think that would be a lot of problems where it would make the government look like they're just super been lying about this. And you never know some lady. It could be, I don't really know.

But as far as like lawsuits, like people could say like, well, if you would let us know this back then I wouldn't have lost, you know, my son. You know, to one of the missing people out there, I just think that the government's lied so much trying to cover it up that they're just to the point that they can't come out with it because I just think they catch so much head from so many different people. You know, kind of that's the point thing. Yeah, I think, yeah, and I think you're right. I think that Chris Jericho asked me that why the government's covering it up and I didn't really give them a great answer. The reason why is it's not a simple answer. It's not just X, Y, and Z. There's about 40 different reasons why they would keep it covered up.

It's Pandora's box, man. Somebody knows everything out there. And I think that once you open it up, it's a major problem for them, you know, because now they've got to answer a bunch of questions. They don't want to answer. Like you said, the missing people. A lot of, it's not just a real quick, simple answer. answer. I think there's a million reasons why they keep it covered up. And they keep it covered up,

I think, for a good reason in the sense that I think it would just open Pandora's box. If they came out and just said, hey, these things are real, you can run into them. Well, now there's a thousand questions they have to answer that they don't want to answer. And that's the reason. And I think going back to your encounter, I think that when you have an encounter, they don't really care about your encounter. They could care less. The only, now, let's say you hit that thing through it in your trunk, took it home through it in the freezer, and you still have it. Yeah, you're going to get a visit.

You're absolutely going to get a visit, and that body will be gone. That's a different issue. Okay. But just hitting one and saying, hey, hit the saying, no one's going to pay you a visit. No one, you know, they don't care. But it's a fascinating account because it makes me wonder if the adults had crossed, now this little one was trying to cross. and you guys just hit each other at the same moment.

Yeah, that's the only guy can put together. I said it's been years, 17 years since this happened, and just thinking about it. And really, I've only come out a whole lot this past year, which people with my family, I've told everybody, you know, everybody, and they know I really would make nothing up like that. They just kind of are like, well, me, you know, after they've watched your show and I've got more involved with my family and big,

plus, stuff that, you know, they kind of believe it that, you know, it's a real animal, but at the beginning it was kind of like, you know, but I'm sure he just didn't hit a big doll. It was more like that. Well, and I can understand that too, you know what I mean? If you can't explain what you hit, how are you going to explain to someone else? You know, if you don't even know what you hit at that time and you're freaking out, like, and I hear hunters, I've heard hunters say that, that have shot them,

and they start freaking out because you made a comment there. I hear, I've heard from hunters who have claimed to have shot these things, and they will say, I, for a moment, I kind of felt like I shot a person. I really, and so they start freaking out. Yeah, yeah, man, that's a good point. I guess exactly how I felt. I think, I mean, I didn't know how to feel. It just felt like I thought I was in trouble, you know, I really thought to that thing.

I knew what I've seen. And then that roar behind it, that it just, I was so freaked out and messed up. I didn't know it was just something that you just wouldn't think anything like that would happen it didn't. I, you know, what I went through and it was still the day, you know, and I bring up a big foot subject or anything, you know.

I'm not talking about that story, but people are like, oh, you do, that's not real. Why do you listen to all that kind of stuff? But I get so mad because I know what happened to me and I know what I've heard all these great people on your show in the same, you've kind of been through the same thing. And what they, I could ask, but them living on your property or something like some of them that I hear.

But I just, the point is, like, so bad because they don't know. They live in this, I haven't really lived in the city, but a lot of my friends do in Columbus. They never go out. And like I was telling you, I drive a semi from Michigan, Tennessee, Kentucky, Pennsylvania, just for this whole whole area here. And it's just in this little area. I'm on the road 10, 12 hours a day, and more than 95% of my drive is just woods and mountains and just, you know, I'm only going through little cities here. And it's just like, there could be, there's probably more out there.

I don't really know, more out there than what some people, you know, really know, because I just look at some of these mountains. I've been to Virginia, Buster County just hundreds of miles of just woods, just. to where these things could probably live in better than we are. And right here in our own backyard. Like I said, I learn a lot, everything, a lot from your show, you know?

And it's really open. I've really brought everything together from what I went through and it just made me kind of feel more relaxed. Like, I didn't, you know, that this is a really immolence. I can accept now, hey, this is what happened to me. And this is real.

This happens. I get, you know, all the time to other people. What's crazy to me is if you, all evidence aside, let's just set aside all the evidence. And I've done 400 plus shows. Sometimes I have two, sometimes three people on. So let's say 800 people I've had on the show. Realistically, I've probably talked to 2000. But let's just go, let's just say a rough figure, 600 people.

You're telling me that people who, a guy in Texas is seeing the same thing. a guy in Alabama seeing the same thing, a guy in Ohio seeing, the same thing that in Washington. And so it's almost more crazy to me to think, if I had never seen one, it's almost more crazy to me to think all these people are having delusions of seeing this exact. You know, if a guy in Texas was seeing a T-Rex and a guy in Pennsylvania was talking about seeing a T-Rex and a guy in Washington was talking about seeing a T-Rex and had all these reports, it almost seems more crazy. to think all these people are delusional as opposed to there might be a T-Rex out there. And so that's the same thing with, that's kind of a bad example. But I mean, it's the same thing with Bigfoot. It's like so many people have seen them.

And everyone's kind of describing the same thing they're seeing. And this has been going on for decades, if not long, well, much longer than decades. But people coming forward, you know, sharing their stuff. And it almost seems more crazy to think all these people are delusional. as opposed to maybe they're actually seeing something. Yeah, I agree. I mean, I just, man, I just, it's not to interrupt it. It's just so crazy that I can sit here and talk to you and hear your voice, you know,

and like, say a few days. Because like I told you, you know, in my semi, I got this around sound, some speaker 12s at the back, and, you know, and it's like, everybody gets my coffee, I get on the road, and I hit the Fast Watch Chronicles. You know, and I get into it. You know, it's like I hear y'all sometimes talking, and sometimes I just want to be like, hey, yeah, like I want to say something, you know, like I want to be in the conversation. Because I agree with you so much on everything, you know, you're right on.

And I just, just so thankful you called me and I have a chance to, you know, talk to you and just like, hey, this is what's going on over here, you know. I just, I mean, you know, at least kids, like I told you, like, I, like, I told you, like, I didn't want to come on a show because I just my counterapps so long ago but I hear of so many people that

they're not they don't want to but they'll come out and tell their story and they're not trying to get just be on your show and they're just you know

they're taking a step doing it and that's just kind of what did because I was happy enough just listening to film but I just we want to just say hey this is what happened

to me you know and I'm glad you did I'm really glad you did I'm really glad you did. I know you didn't really want to come on the show, and I know you're nervous, man. Like I said,

I'm nobody important. You are, though, man. No. I said, man, when you call it, you're like, you're like a booby. Because, I mean, you're just,

you're not just that. You know, you're doing a great thing, man. I had to be my family. I put them up my mom. My mom loves to do you, you know,

just your point of view on the whole situation. And one day, hopefully when it does come out. You know, I could be like, yeah, I was on that Stashott's, Farnicles with West. I told you so. All this that you're doing, you know,

it's going to come. Someday when this subject comes down, I would think one day it would, you know, then what you did here, you're going to brought it to a head. You know, it's just, I'm just thankful, man. You know, I was going to tell you, man,

I listened to your episode a while back. You started it off by saying, I'm retiring. And, you know, then you went on and you said from poker, you were joking around, you know, I swear about I had a heart attack that day, man. I just thought I wanted to quit, put everything. I'm done. I quit driving the truck that day, man.

That was, I about broke my heart. But, no, but no, I just, I don't mean to sound like a crazy fan or nothing. I just totally end up. You just subject, big foot, and how your show approaches it, the people you bring on it. I mean, it's real stuff. Is it just entertainment? You know, it's like, it's really what's going on. And I think sometimes it does take an encounter, you know, to wake somebody up.

Somebody actually get up off their butt and get out there. And, you know, most encounters don't go well, I guess. But for me, you know, I'd still be a skeptic maybe if I didn't, if that didn't happen to me, you know. And I just, with these shows that got now, you got, like we talked about the mountain men, for, you know, that, that's, and then you got, um, big, finding big foot. And it's like our, the poster boy for, for Bigfoot is Bobo. So, I mean, people, I'm sure he's a great dude. But I just, that's how people look at some of this stuff.

And it's like, you know, some of them shows kind of just, and they never find Bigfoot. So, I mean, trying to tell the other people who've never really had to encounter. You know, kind of, sometimes I don't blame them for, thinking the subjects. because it's such a weird subject, you know, it just, it's just, it's a real animal out there. And it's just, it's just, it's government, it's crazy how it just gets covered up people. It takes an encounter for somebody to actually believe it. Yeah, no, I hear you. But I appreciate, no, no, no, you're okay, Bo.

I appreciate you all the kind of words, man. Thank you very much. And thank you for sharing the encounter, man. The encounter was a great encounter. I don't think he had any choice but to hit the thing. But I appreciate you coming on and sharing it very much. Yeah, I go thank you, Wes. It's an honor for you to call me, man.

And, hey, all these conferences talk about out there, I'm going to make it to them. Especially after the past years, seeing the other people have had these, that there's more people out there. I can't believe how many. There's probably a lot more that we, you know, like you said, that we haven't even heard. You know, it just kind of really, it's really got, into the subject, you know, it's, you know, so I'm going to be someday making it out there,

and I'm going to run into one of these days, you know, at a conference or one way or another, because I do want to start getting more involved in, and it just, you know, it's kind of just only been driving the truck for about a year kind of starting to actually start something different. Well, you know, once I get good on my feet, you know, I would like to make a couple trips, get more involved in it, you know, because it's a real thing. And I want to be a part of it when if it does come to a head. Like, yeah, I told you so.

You know, that's what I want to be. To look to my buddies, you know. I hear you. But, Wes, I appreciate you. I'm sorry to ramble on, man. I'm just so step to talk to you, bro. No apologies, brother. No apologies.

Yeah, if you get a chance to come out, I'll be at the International Bigfoot conference. If you get a chance, if you can't make it out, that's cool. But thank you again, brother. All right, Wes. Take care, bro. And next up on the show, I want to welcome Tom back to the show. Tom was on episode 319.

I know you remember Tom, thank you so much. You had a very interesting experience on your property there in North Carolina. If you would for the audience, would you kind of walk us into it? Yeah, sure. So thanks for having me on again, Wes. Yeah, of course. We moved the North Carolina back in 2007. and we lived here since, but I bought a house in 2015,

and it was in like a wooded suburban area, and it was one of those houses that they built from the ground up all new and all that. So we have woods behind the house, and I'd make a fence. First I fenced it in after we bought it and, you know, built it in and blocked it in for the kids so they wouldn't go run in the woods and get lost in the dogs as well. But I noticed some bends behind the backyard. And I kind of just shrugged it off like, yeah, it's nothing. And then one day while we're out having a bonfire, I saw ice.

They looked like green lights above the kids' playhouse. And the playhouse is about eight feet up in the air made of pallets. And I kind of shrug that off too as maybe like an owl or something. But like I said, if I would have thought about it now, I probably would have said it was a Sasquatch, just being curious. So fast forward a couple years after hunting those. woods behind my house for for a while you know i just bow hunt because we live in within city limits so you can't really fire a fire a weapon or you get in trouble for discharging within city limits so i just bow hunt i got a

couple stands put up so last summer i built a tree stand on about three trees i made a really nice platform stand up with an extension ladder going to it so october 27th i was going into the woods and I forgot my flashlight in the kitchen. It was kind of one of the mornings where I was just running out, rushing out to get my gear and get in the woods before daybreak. And I didn't feel like going back from my flashlight, which I should have, but I didn't. It's one of them real nice, you know, 700 lumen lights that'll light the woods up at night. I get up in my tree stand. It's about 545, 550 now.

And I'm, you know, I'm making some noise because it's the ladder to get to the tree stand is one of them old aluminum ladder. so it kind of makes noise and rattles the tree. And as I'm pulling my crossbow on up into the stand, my cell phone dropped. So I'm sitting in the tree. I got a little fold-up chair. I got my crossbow. I'm sitting in the dark. And about five, ten minutes goes by, if that.

And I hear something sounds like an owl on steroids or a 500-pound owl about no more than 30 to 40 yards to my, I would say, my 9 o'clock position. And it startled me so bad. I was shaking refusively and I couldn't move. And it happened about two more times after that. And I'm just sitting there kind of in shock and in awe. And I'm like, that's a Sasquatch. That's not an animal. That's, you know, I know the woods.

I know what all the animals sound like. You know, there's a little bit of coyote activity in my area. But nothing like that. There's no mountain line or, you know. And I know what an owl sounds like too. So it just sounded too much to be, you know, like a person owl almost, you know, kind of a mimic sound. And then had a screechy noise to it as well, almost like a, like we talked about last night, like a chimpanzee screaming. So really, really bugged me out.

So after that, I heard another noise at my, say, 1 o'clock and 3 o'clock position. And it sounded like one of those, like a tongue-clicking noise. Yeah. If you ever heard people talk about that tongue clicking. And, wow. This is hard to relive it over again, especially if I'm talking about it. My mind is just racing and I'm reliving this all over again. But I'll try to give it to you as good as I can.

Yeah. My heart was pounding. That's all I know. My heart was pounding. My crossbow was in my hand. And I had a 380 in my pocket. And I'm just thinking to myself, you know, the crossbow is not going to do nothing but piss it off.

The 380 is going to be like shooting it with a BB gun. So I'm just kind of sitting there like a sitting duck in my tree stand waiting for daylight. So I throw my hands up. I couldn't think of anything else to do. So I threw my hands up and just say, hey, you know, I don't want to be bothered. I won't bother you. You know, just let me be. And, you know, I'll let you be.

And probably about 10 minutes later, it was, you know, it was completely silent. And then the light came and I got out of my tree about half an hour after that. and I started snapping pictures. And what I saw in the woods was just, it was amazing. I saw all these tree breaks, you know, these tree bends, a couple of ex formations. And I know they're out there. And I know they come around, you know, maybe early October, mid-September. And they probably stayed all about January.

But, you know, I wasn't really going to come out with this. But I just wanted everybody to know out there that, you know, you don't have to live out in the middle of nowhere to have these on your property. You can live in like me, I'm certain. Bourbon, Charlotte, North Carolina, and they're there. I mean, I got creeks that run along my house and, you know, about 20 acres of woods, and they come around, they migrate and they do their thing, so. Yeah, no, I know it was a very short encounter, but I asked you to come on, and I think it's important because there's a lot of hunters who come across, I know you've seen them before in

Ontario, and if people want to go back and listen to episode 319, they can hear your encounter, But, you know, it sounds like there was two of them there. And as you and I were talking last night, I was telling you, it's almost more concerning not seeing it than actually seeing it because it's more of an unknown. And I know that owl sound you're talking about. I heard something very similar in Texas where it sounds, you know, at first I thought, well, that's an owl. Then I thought, wow, that's a really big owl. And then it went into like a chimpanzee. It messed up its owl mimic.

You know, I don't know if it was getting excited or what, but if I had a very first heard that and just kept going, I would have thought, ah, that's an owl and just kept going. But the fact that we stopped, we listen to it, you can hear them change their tone. And you're right, they are closer to us in the sense of being around properties. You know, you talk about the tree breaks and the ex formations and, you know, some of that stuff you can pass off as weather. but in some of these areas you walk through and you're just like, what the hell is that? What is this? What is that? And it starts to click really quick that that's not a, it's not weather damage.

Something is doing this. And I don't think most people pay attention to it. I think most people are oblivious to it. Exactly. Because last year I was actually going around different areas of Charlotte just trying to prove to myself and just, you know, show pictures around a couple of sites. And I was astounded by just how close. to roads that these things are, but they're everywhere if you look, if you know what to look for,

and you know, you get up and a lot of people, you know, they do research on computers, but if you just go out in the woods, you don't have to go out in the middle of nowhere. You can go somewhere where there's, you know, lightly wooded area. And if you see those formations, you know, they've been through the area or they're staying there or, you know, they're hanging around or living there. But I was at a place today on a road. Let's see. It was called W.T. Harris Boulevard, which is near UNC University in Charlotte. And I saw about 10 formations and about eight X's and within a quarter mile distance.

And I started to snap some pictures of it because I was amazed by how close to the road these things are. I mean, the weather, like you said, the weather, there's no way weather did, you know, so many in a small distance. And they all look the same and they're all perfectly. I mean, these logs are, you know, you and me could lift them together to put them where they're,

the way they've been put. there's no way humans could have done it and there's no way a storm could have done it it's pretty wild yeah it is we'll be careful on your property will you i mean it sounds like they're there obviously and you know usually hunters encounters and fishermen those are usually the most aggressive encounters because they're they're doing the same thing you're doing you know what i mean yeah i mean deer season and the other weird thing is i noticed a deer like this hunting season the deer of my property i haven't really seen any deer at all i've only I'm just wondering if, you know, that they're eating them, they run them off.

But I haven't seen like dead animal remains or nothing like that. So I'm just wondering if they scared them off the property or spooked them. But like I told you yesterday, it haven't really seemed to be bothering me or my family that much. I've never noticed them, you know, like after hours or I haven't had like screaming at night, like in my yard. I've heard, I've heard like the howling noises that everyone hears and the roars far back, but nothing. to like cause me or make me think that my life's in danger. You know what I mean? I think they're just, they want to be left alone and do their thing and, you know,

we do our thing. Yeah, and I think a lot of times if you had that mentality, it's the best mentality because there's less of an altercation. You getting up and yelling at these things, they're not really yelling, but just saying, hey, I'm here, blah, blah, blah. I think they will tend to back off when you do stuff like that. You know, obviously there was probably two of them, though, that sound like they're really close to,

especially if you're hearing the clicking, the mouth pops, that's very common with the way they vocalize. Yeah, it's some communication that, you know, we haven't figured out yet, and who knows what it means. And it could be just a warning alert saying, hey, there's something going on over there,

you know, back off or fall back. I think when they mimic, they think they're mimicking something. And if you got a good ear, you realize really quick it's a mimic, like you did, day, that's not an owl. But I think that's their way of communicating back and forth with each other without alerting us. Your situation is a little bit different, though, because you've ran into

them before. So you obviously knew what was going on. Most hunters, I think, would be completely confused on what is going on here. Yeah, I mean, I've heard the one episode where you had that guy, I think his name was Clint, and he was bow hunting in a tree stand. He saw it, and he was pretty shuck up too from it. I can only imagine, you know, seeing it like the way he saw it. He couldn't really, he was, he was frozen up too, you know. Yeah. And I think that's how these things get shot. You know, I think a lot of people who don't know what they're looking at, they're in fear. And the worst thing you can do is put a gun in someone's hand and then, and then they're in fear. Because someone's going to get shot or something's going to get shot. Yeah. There's a worst thing you can do.

But, yeah, keep us up to date. Will you, Tom? Let us know what else you find. on that property? Yeah, there's, you know, there's a little bit going on there. And like I said, I've noticed there's, I don't know if it has anything to do with being, you know, government cover-ups, but I did notice there are certain roads where there were formations that I've seen in the past where, like, companies would come out and they, they would trim the tree line back about 10 feet. And it's, it's been getting done a lot.

And I think a lot of the activities, too, they're building a really big byway in the woods and they're just tearing up woods left and right. So I guess they're having a hard time. You know, these bigfoot are having a hard time with their, you know, the living environment. So they're just running around wherever they can get to to get cover. Yeah, I think by me. Yeah, I think you're right. I think we're encroaching upon them. And I think they are, I think most people will be shocked how close these things actually are to communities, to homes to, you don't have to go out 50, 60 miles in the middle of nowhere to run into one of these things.

No, no, sir. And I think that's another reason why the sightings are, you know, within the last couple of years, the siting reports have just been going phenomenal. You know, people are seeing them everywhere. Yeah. No, I couldn't agree more. Well, thank you again, Tom, for coming on. Thank you, Wes.

I appreciate it. And I love listening to the show. Thanks, Tom. And that's it for tonight. Everyone, remember if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles. Until next time, everyone. Being across the country faster than the coronavirus and wagering week is your antidote.

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