Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:48 Sasquatch encounters and audio files

Episode Date: September 7, 2014

Researcher and Sasquatch witness Larry Turner drops by and shares with us his Sasquatch audio files and encounters with the creature. Larry was grabbed while in his tent one night while out researching Sasquatch. Larry shares with us what he has found works and what doesn't work for him in the field. We will close out with bigfoot news.

Four, three, two, one, zero. When I had come down this hill, I had seen this creature cross the road. It would have ripped my locked door from my truck, extracted me from my vehicle, and there wouldn't have been a damn thing I could have done about it. This thing I got to notice in its eyes. His eyes was real, real evil, real sinister looking. You know, the look it was giving me.

911, what are you reporting? On now, sir. That's sort of a bitch is about six foot. Sir? Yes, I'm looking right here. Welcome to Bigfoot Hot Spot Hot Spot Radio, Sasquatch Chronicles. I'm your host, Wes, along with my brother Woody, and researcher, author and friend, William Jebbing. Let's start the show.

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Tonight on the show we talked to Larry Turner. Larry is an investigator. He had an encounter back when he was younger. He's now an investigator. He's going to share with us tonight some of his audio and his encounter stories. And then we'll close out with the news with Shannon Ligrough. Let's start off with, I always ask people, you know, what they knew about the subject prior. I heard about Bigfoot or Sasquatch in the early 1960s.

I was always aware of them, but I always thought they were. in Canada. You know, that was when I was a kid, you know. And then when I became an adult, I was fully aware that they're everywhere. So as a kid growing up, I'd

just in Canada. So what, tell us about on that first experience, what were you doing that that led up to the event? Oh, my very first experience, 37 years ago, I was elk hunting.

It was out of the canyon and chasing the six-point bull elk, Boston, then looking around for them, couldn't find him, figured out, well, I'm four miles down. I'm better come out, so a couple hours into it. Coming back up the hill, I found a skid road, and I started walking up a skid road rather than beating the brush. Brush about 20 yards to my left,

which would be south of my position as I was heading up the hill. All of a sudden, I just stopped. And I was like, something's wrong. and I was like, this doesn't feel very good. I've been around Barron Cougar, my entire growing up, and they don't bother me. So what is wrong? I just had this hair standing in the back of my neck.

I couldn't tell you what was wrong. I jacked a round into my handwritten one in my rifle, and I started walking up the hill, and I caught something on my left, my left periphery vision. And I see this black mass, huge black mass, going through the brush, and it was, I'd take a step, it would take a step. And I kept on looking at it and going, is that a bear? He'd be gone by now.

So about 100 yards, well, this thing's walking up there, it's doing this, all the way. And, of course, I was really nervous then because I'd never seen a bear do that. And I'd see bits and pieces of an arm and a long leg. And, you know, I was double-timing it up to the truck, and it was doing that sound and following me in the brush. I'll live until I got the mainline road. When I got the mainline road, I did a hundred-yard dash like you wouldn't believe and got out of there.

I didn't know to see what. No, I just like I had no idea what that was all about. As a matter of fact, I haven't been down that way since. It's because they burned off the road where you can't drive over there anymore. If I were to walk there, it would take a day and a half to get there. It's in the coast range in Oregon. Not a soul. My soul up until last summer.

I didn't even tell my wife. You're in good company. Yeah, exactly. Well, about two years ago, last month, my daughters were out camping in the coast range. They're adult daughters, and I pretty much have had them outdoors the whole life. I've taken backcountry Yellowstone, the whole nine yards, Montana, up a glacier for three weeks. so they're experienced the outdoor girls

there were seven of them with seven other people with them all in their 20s they came home and both them sat me down and said dead we heard this and there was a whoop call

now my daughter one of my daughters made a really good whoop call she said it was directed right at their camp for two hours the first night

and the second night for 20 minutes until someone yelled at it to stop and it stopped. So I was talking to my boss about this event, and he goes, well, let's, I said, I want to go up there and find out what it is.

I went through the Bardow thing, you know, I was a Barden. No, Dan, it's not a Bardow. I know what the Bardow sounds like. It wasn't a kayak, you know, just went through all the animals, typical animals and stuff. And so my boss and I went up there the following weekend.

And this is just, you know, I was watching fighting Bigfoot before, you know, I had pound on trees and stuff. And I'm kind of going, I hadn't but back my mind. Well, maybe this is a big foot. I don't know. So we set up camp and we started eight dinner. And then we decided to do a walk around the logging roads with the periphery of where we were camping.

And it's about a mile. So we walked up to the power lines first. And I just got a big old stick and whacked on the power line a couple times and that thing. And I don't, I didn't know, you know, about calls. I didn't do any calls whatsoever. So in about 45 minutes later we arrived at camp. His daughter went to bed, and then Mark and I are just sitting and looking at the cars. At 10-15, we hear five knots exactly where we did our knocks.

We both stand up going, there isn't anybody else here. And right when I said that, he hit his camera audio recorder, and we get two calls coming from the north, so powerful that it reverberated in your chest. and we're going well, of course we were like that was off of, cool. I was sold then and nothing else

happened that night that we were aware of after that and then I wrote a report and sent to the BFRO and so did mark. So the BFRO became involved and they came over the first time and I looked at around going yeah, right, you know, because places, we've got lots of activity.

You got guns fire, you know, gun fire going off all the time, ATV zipping around everywhere. So they agreed to come out the following weekend. Following the weekend, you know, show them the routine. We did all that stuff. We were hanging out at camp, 10, 15.

As Cindy did group calls. And then we're sitting there about 1015. I think you've got the recording there. It's a two-minute recording or two of them vocalizing back and forth. Let me play that real quick. Well, they do talk back and forth. If you notice, kind of a singing vocal going back, reports, did you notice that before they did the big major calls?

That's kind of an interesting thing. I didn't know if they're long enough now, I pretty much can tell you what kind of it is just by listening to them. That was a great recording, Larry. That was awesome. Well, that was sitting about 10 feet up in the air. That call came for about a half a mile away, but they were very powerful. What it is is, is Fox Canyon.

Very acoustical. I can go there and make a call, and my calls will go roughly about six miles. Jesus. It's just a really cool canyon work. They were doing this out. And they were calling east to west. I wanted to play the second recording. That was the first one with Mark and I,

different, that was one Mark and I first had our experience. Well, let me do that. Oh, this was the first time, huh? That's the next one? Yeah, yeah. Let me play the first recording then of you guys because it sounds, I think this one's just as good. great job Larry

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a frightening encounter he had while in his tent My alarm goes off. I'm washed through the ceiling because I was asleep. It's about 11.45. It goes off again or shut it off. And I look over my lab and she's sitting up. Her hackles are up and she's spinning on her seat as this thing's walking around my tent,

making this type of noise. And I was doing it for quite a while and stopped and messed around my table for a while and started walking around my tent. Well, then it came right behind the, uh, the stop right behind me where I was laying, pushed in the tent and grabbed my head. My head felt, for lack of a better term, about the size of a great with hand.

And I grabbed my 45, and I was on going, nope, that's not big enough. And I set it down. And it released me. I was very gently manipulating my head and messing around my ear. His fingers went over my eye socket, over the brows to my eye sockets.

That's how big they were. and then it proceeded to do its thing, walking around my tent. And so I grabbed my truck keys that's got the alarm feature with the light. You know, when you hit the alarm, it also hits the cargo light. So as it's coming around my tent, I hit that, and it stops right behind my tent, the same spot where it was behind me before. So it stood there for about 30 seconds, and then I started doing a sting again. So that's my guess I hit the alarm a bunch of times and it melted off.

Now, I had an audio recorder. on a landing out in the middle of the woods. I had an audio recorder with me and it picked up rock ticks at the audio recorder, so there was two of them. You actually hear stuff to walk around while this event was going on too. Played around my table, took my medication out of a plastic bag that was in a box underneath the table, took four eggs, and moved my survival knife of one end of the table to the other. I think they're very inquisitive from what I could tell, and I think they know me, for lack of our turn now.

I'm in pretty much tell, I usually go up there to say, hey, Larry's here. Next thing I know, there's stuff going on during the night. Let me ask you this, Larry. So you're in the tent, and I think I asked you this at Beachfoot. I mean, where are you freaking out? I think I'd freak out if something had a tent on my head and... Well, what you put it this way? The dog, if it had been a bearer of Cougar,

would have tore the tent apart to go get it. He chose to go in the bottom of my mummy bag and nothing flat. There I knew I was in a little bit of trouble, not comfortable with my 45, what should have done the damage to anything, and I'm sitting there's on, oh, this sucks. So that's about as much. I just held my composer. Didn't panic and just let him do his thing. So you just kind of accepted the fact that there was pretty much nothing you could do to defend yourself,

and you just kind of didn't call him with the situation? Yep, and I didn't think my 45. I think if I shot up my 45 would have been. the tar out of me. But lack of a better term, rolled with it. Although very nervous rolled with it. I mean, there was only one person on the

planet that knew where I was. Because I was pretty remote at the time, so it was like, wow, hope I'd make it. How long do you think it was walking around your tent for messing with you? The whole encounter was about nine minutes. I know that because that's how long

the reporter recording all the events that transpired. the audio recorder. It recorded my alarm going off. We proxia alarm twice. That started the clock. And then at the end when I was hitting my truck alarm or my truck lock thing, that's panic mode.

That was nine minutes later. And you didn't feel like it was still hanging around your camp after that nine minutes? No, I think they backed off. And they weren't hanging around me. They could have been hanging around camp for all I know, but I proceed no threat after that. What did you do after that, Larry? After it took off. What?

Oh, after the big guy took off? Sat there and evaluated what happened in me and going, wow, I just been touched. Dog called out of the bag about 10 minutes later. She settled down. I watched her. When she settled down, I settled down, and I got about three hours of sleep. How big do you think it's hand? Well, I'm guessing

huge. I mean, I'm just going to guess 12 inches, maybe 13, 14 was huge. It took up my whole head from the back part and its fingers went over my just right to my eye socket

and the rest of the hand was around my ears. Super long thumb. Yeah, I almost I just wonder if the, you know, if the Sasquatch figured it was, it probably didn't figure or plan on it being your head. It probably thought it was trying to grab something else. I stayed pretty still. That kind of thing does happen, a friend of mine.

Yeah, all the food was outside of the table, so. So, Larry, when you go out there, you're almost always by yourself? No, I know. From this, from that point on, we ended up with, like, one other person. showed up. Pretty much it was two BFR folks, and then another guy, Gunner Morrison, came

along. And that night, we called the crescendo night. What happened was, is that night we had four of them going off, similar to those calls of the second audio played, but more of a whoop type of thing. And they were

moving from the east, and they covered what I would call, this is from 10 o'clock to 12.15 a.m. They moved, about eight miles in less than two hours which would take Wes and I a day and a half to walk through.

And at the south where they went, then there was a crescendo where a heightened crescendo where all four of them were just excitedly vocalizing, and then in the middle and did you, but, gaga, and it was done.

The big alpha male kicked in. I call them Big Joe. I'll get to that in the moment but he kicked in it was like okay we got it give me the liver and it was over I'm in about a deep sense

and Gunner sitting there he's a 20-year bed and sitting there his mouth open and I told him before that I said man I would love to hear samurai chatter and I would give me camera chatter. It was awesome

so he joined our group and now we've got what eight people within the group old um got anthropologists got uh um

soon to be biologists biologist. Mark and I are both metrologist. That's the type of measurement. And then, of course, I hunt. Mark's a mountain climber. Let's see, what else we got? Oh, and then Shane Corson's in our group. Anyway, most of the pretty experienced people. And we

decided to do this the real way and wrote up I wrote up SOPs on how to conduct yourself out there, passing an SOP, an audio SOP, a basic SOP on how to collect evidence. casting SOP with the goal of being accredited for research.

So Shane Corson's in the group? Yes. So pretty much anyone can get in? I'm just joking. No, Shane actually was out. We actually, I met Shane, or Cindy Beth Shane out. Oh, I think it was December night. We just said it's massive.

rainstorm going on. Mark and I were sleeping tents. Gunner was in his jeep and Shane was in his truck. Well, one of them came by, pulled out the stakes in my tent, threw them in the fire pit, picked up Gunner's Jeep and rocked it back and forth, and Shane heard not.

We all compared notes in the morning with a whole cowl. They were here. And I mean, raining bucket. Do you think they're just kind of in the area because it's a good area or do you do something specifically to call them in? This area here, we've got food year-round. I've been doing

research long enough for I can live off the land there. Now, there's deer, you know, within this area here, they kind of walk through it, but the deer congregate about three miles away. There's all over there. There's rabbits all over the place. There's what you call the ground beavers. There's tons of them over there. They're kind of like a little, look like a little beaver, but they weigh about between

three and five pounds. They're easy to dig up and eat. Lots of wild lettuce over there. Lots of hasta. The berries are insane over there. They got huckleberries, organ grade, Shannon berries. You've got

different edible lichens all over. I mean, it's just rich in food everywhere. There's no reason for them to leave. I believe that Big Joe, the big alpha male, is a year-round resident. Whether he has a female around or not. I haven't, all the time year-round. I haven't. I can't really say, I'm not really 100% sure, but I know one is a year-round resident. His impressions of track, if you will, are 19 inches

long, 8 inches at the toes and 6 inches at the heel. And I get those all the time during the winter. How many would you guess is around there? Four. And there's four in this general area, a kind of a little family group, if you will. And there's another family group to the west of our location, about eight miles to the west of there. Does the type of activity or the, you know, the intensity of the activity, does it change with who you bring out there or the number of people that are out there with you? Yeah, I think they're like smaller crowds. Like, you have groups of four, they're pretty comfortable with.

They'll come right in camp. Matter of fact, between two or four, they're pretty bold. I had one that came in the camp and fingered my truck. It left a nice 11-and-a-half-12-inch handprint on my truck. And with the thumbnail and the thumbprint was up the hook, cool. If you Google and look up a lemur handprint, that's what the handprint looked like on my truck. I'll have to get a picture for Shannon and Will of that. I know when you showed it to me, Larry, it's kind of a fascinating picture.

I mean, it's a real odd-looking handprint, right? I'm like, I'll write on his truck. Yeah, he double-stabbed. He was, I can only hypothesize it. It was like peeking over the truck towards my tent, and it changed positions, because that's where I had the other fingerprints on the front door of my quad cab. And those things, they were, you know, my door handles 10 inches long, of those, just those three prints

so like 10 inches long. It's pretty amazing. Yeah, it's an odd looking print. That's for sure. It's a huge print. Yeah, it'd be great to see those. I've got to find, I don't tell my other phone. I'm talking on a new phone now, so. Do you do anything specific to call them in, or are they pretty much, I mean, I know you have said they're kind of generally in the area, but when you show up, is there anything specific you do to kind of draw them in?

I've been experimenting, you know, different things, and it just doesn't, seem to, they're not interested in wild fish, I'll tell you that. I just kind of, once I show up, I make a little walk up a certain frail, just walk up a little way, some back, and then I walk over the power line sometimes. Sometimes I'll just sit in the camp. They just, as soon as you start a fire, I start picking up pork, they seem to show. You know, but they show up there. Pretty much on cue, I can set my clock.

It's about, you know, 10, 15, 11, they're just. start showing up. You know, they'll start sneaking into him sneaking in. And then now a new behavior is they're whistled before they come in closer, that type of thing. Pretty interesting. During the winter when things are like really cold and stuff, they ground thump for hours on in. I got hours of audio between Shane and I, we got 24 hours of, not that they're ground pumps.

Like say you pick up the big rock and you just drop on the ground, that stud. that type of thing. For whatever reason, I have no idea. I know that low frequencies travel a long way, so it could have something to do with that, some sort of form of communication. You know, I'm not really sure why they do that. Then during the spring, you can tell it spring right away

because they're saying. It's really weird. They do this happy whoop thing, blah, blah, blah. Sounds like come sick. I'm like, whoop, come sick. You know, and go off and do other little. things, singing song things. It's kind of weird.

Hmm. So you're getting a lot of chatter this time of year? Yeah, it's intermittent. I mean, they not always talk, you know, they're not always chattering, but there is scattering there. And there's a song, like I said, they do the song thing.

I can't even explain. But I've got one-terabyte drive that's filling up pretty quick. And the audio process is such as, I analyze it then it goes to like David Ellis, and then it goes, files for Ron Moorhead and hit in the Cryptolingoes that he's got on board. And then Paul Graves is also listening to some of those stuff, so it gets better.

Yeah, it sounds like you have a great spot there, Larry. Yeah, yeah, I'm kind of addicted. I keep buying new toys. I'm not a technician by trade and a astrologist, so I bring the technology in. Do you hear a different type of vocalization during the day than you do at night when you're out there? I haven't heard any vocalizations per se during the day. I will say that they knock quite a bit during the day. The interesting thing is like saying they are up the trail,

we'll wait for Gunner to show up coming in from where he's coming from. They knock. And then five minutes later here comes Gunner. That's amazing. Or if one of our guys is ahead, we'll hear him knock. So they're around pretty close to where we camp all the time. For whatever reason. The vocalizations that I've heard only happens, you know, after dark.

I haven't heard anything during the day yet. Probably just because of the general activity around, you know, guns, you know, they're not afraid of guns, and there's been shooting going on all day along, even at night. It's pretty acclimated shooting in human activities around the area. doesn't seem to phase. I guess a master's a height, and it goes, nobody seems to know they're there.

Woody and I had our encounter. Not far from there, there's a place where people go to shoot. And so I don't think gunfire like that really shakes them up too much. No, I don't think so either. Some of these guys are walking around with the... I know some guys are caught about three miles from where I was at. They were shooting into a rock pit with a pift of a cow. Have you tried to get them on camera,

or have you taken a thermal out to record them? I bring a thermal with me all the time. I have not been successful yet. This haven't had the left where I caught one out in the open. The time that they were whistling at, they weren't more than 20 yards from our camp. When I swung around to hit it with the therm, I didn't see anything because it was in the brush.

And, you know, I guess it ducked down or whatever, but we couldn't catch anything on the term because it's so thick. Coast raising is pretty thick stuff. You got the salau, you know, the salo, you know, the salmall and all that other stuff, and salmon berries and organ grapes, you know, a lot of cover for them to hide in. Yeah, it's pretty hard for those thermals to break that brush. Yeah, and that was our problem. We couldn't break it.

But we try. I mean, I've got all these days. I mean, I've got all this stuff. I get a lot of good audio. I mean, now I'm running just myself. I'm running five audio recorders, and then if anybody else goes up, because you're three more, so, you know, you're talking, for me, 72 hours of audio all the time. Yeah, that's a lot.

You just pick up a lot of stuff. And I'm still evaluating last weekends. That was 72 hours just for myself. Well, a lot of good stuff on it. I appreciate it coming on, man. Yeah, and as I get, you know, I'll promise you this, as soon as I get audio that's been bedded and stuff, that's okay for release. There's none of our research is in the public.

guy per se. Just what's public knowledge. Like those audio recordings are on the BFO site. None of us stuff is out there. There's basically everything that we're doing is getting checked by independent researchers and stuff

or independent sources. Like audio is getting, you know, that goes to like audio engineers and all sorts of things like that. And then wildlife feralists, blah, blah, blah. If we get stuff that's good to release, I might pass a few nuggets on your way. Yeah, please do, ma'am.

Please do. And ones you sent me are pretty awesome. Oh, yeah. Thank you for coming on. Yeah. No problem. Yeah, thanks very much, Larry. My pleasure. I want to thank Larry for coming on the show and putting up with us, me specifically.

This next segment is called News. A lot of people, a lot of our fans out there have been asking us our opinions on different things that are going on in the Bigfoot world. And so we decided to bring Shannon Legrow on. to give us an update on what's going on in the Bigfoot world. We record these for Google Plus, and I'll be posting the video on our Facebook fan page under Bigfoot Ospot Radio. So if you get a chance, check it out. Hope you enjoy it.

The boys love Shannon. I saw that. So we'll let her do all the talk and will. You and I'll just... Oh, you open with that. Don't make me blush on camera. Stop it now. People say they can't hear Will.

I look pale like a cancer patient. They love Shannon, so I figured we just let Shannon do the talking tonight. We'll just kind of sit back. Except my first story is Will is definitely a part of this one. It is Stacey Brown's finding of the, and this is his tag, okay, he did come out right off the bat and say non-human primate arm. but I will add to that that in some of the newer videos on YouTube, they are throwing in the two words skunk ape in there. So I'm like, oh, and Will knows because I would post a story to keep everybody up to date on the page.

And Will's, and they're going, monkey, monkey, monkey, right? That's right. Yeah. So everybody was getting a little excited. And I know, and I'm not making fun of Stacey Brown. I think it's awesome, right, that he's. out there, his boots on the ground, he's gung-ho about it. Excellent.

Awesome. But let's just everybody take a breath, maybe get some information that it's actually something anomalous before we go, oh, my God, look what I found. Isn't it, and was it in Florida? He found this? Correct. And our buddy Dave Mobley, who's a professor, oh, he's an expert hunter. He sent me an email, and he said, we have over a thousand feral monkeys.

Rhesus macaques in that area. And what is it, about 18 inches long? I mean, come on, it's a monkey arm. And at one point he was saying, one of his posts just read, oh, man, this thing is weird. But you're thinking, well, it's in an advanced state of decay. So anything looks weird when it's decaying. And there's barely any flesh and there's no hair. So everything looks strange then.

I think everyone in the Bigfoot community is kind of jumping the gun on this whole thing. Part of it is Stacey Brown's fault. I mean, I actually, I miss Stacy. He's a nice guy, but I think I would have had it examined first instead of just blasting it everywhere before it's even been examined. And, you know, the interesting thing, it's once again, you have to look at the motivation for why would somebody blast something out there before finding out any detailed information about it? I mean, so what's the whole point in it? It's to get attention. Right, and that's unfortunate.

And I mentioned this. I was just happy that no mainstream media picked up on that because it would have made everybody look pretty bad. I'm sure they know it's a monkey arm too, so. Yeah. You know, but you know, you get the ones that want these fluff stories and they'll run with it and they'll kind of go along with or maybe add their own to it. You know, go, oh, Sasquatch arm found in Florida.

You're like, no, no, no, no. Next on the agenda is Les Stroud, is doing six more Survivor Man Bigfoot. I don't know about you guys, but I admire Les Proud. I really like him. Les is a great guy. Is he still with The Muppet Maker? I surely hope not. And the fact that you brought that out, that was my biggest question.

That was my big question with it. Is he going back out with Todd standing? I'll give people a lot of credit when they're doing work. But the hoaxers, in my opinion, should be highlighted. and tarred and feathered in public. I love it. The Muppet Maker. I just hope that Les, even if he goes out with six different researchers

and six different areas or whatever he chooses to do, great, but maybe go in a different direction with who you want to team up with, please. Yeah, I hope it's not six more episodes with Todd Standing. Oh, Lord. I don't personally have anything against him, but I just hope it would be more interesting to... Unless he has fresh Muppet videos. Now, on those videos, I haven't really looked at them that much

because I don't like stressing myself out over garbage. I mean, one of the questions it was posed to me in an email yesterday was, what was the before and after video? Those two pictures, right? There wasn't really video. Is that the case? there was video, and then I had gotten on a thread about it, because I actually did post.

It was just a funny picture. Again, I'm not really one for making fun of people. It was kind of more of an in general, like, this is what's going on in the community right now, because somebody had posted a couple of puppets. And they had the trees in front of the face, right, in the same spot, and I was dying laugh. So I posted that, and somebody goes, I go, you know, there's not even a blink in the video.

And somebody goes, no, no, if you go to this video, there is kind of a blink. But it's like this. It's a... It's mechanical. It's not living. Oh, my chair is conspiring against me here. Uh-oh. I think what happened is he had posted that first video of the one just sitting there.

And I know some of the criticism he got was, well, why doesn't it blink? and then all of a sudden he comes out with this next one and then it blinks, you know, and so it was like... Yeah. What was the lead-up? I mean, you know, like with a Patterson film, you see it, it's walking and then it goes away. You know, there's sort of a beginning and an end to it.

Right. Withstanding stuff, all we see is this, these two faces. There's not really anything, any movement. The head doesn't move. There's no lead up to it. It doesn't back away. Yeah, and they're both just the bust. You know, it's right.

So they're both in the same position, and he has to carefully place logs and trees and such. And like with Patterson film, too, you know, and they went back, there were tracks. You know, they did all kinds of stuff with the site after the creature left. With, you know, this hoax stuff, there isn't any of that. Uh-oh. We lost Shannon again.

Damn it, we got to come up with stuff ourselves. Seems like I didn't even leave. There we go. There you go. I'm getting faster at what I need to push to get back online. Okay. Yeah, thank God. God knows people don't watch these videos for me and Will.

That's right. Sure they do. Of course they do. Everybody loves you guys. You kidding? No, you're right, though Will. There is no lead-up. There's no what happened next.

It's just kind of a glamour shot. You know, it's just kind of a... Yeah, there's no peripheral evidence. There isn't anything. I mean, and I think that's the hallmark of a hoax. You know, it's the tell-tale sign. to say, hey, you know, there's something wrong with this because they don't have A, B, C, D, and E, they just, there's this.

And to me, that screams baloney. Yeah, I think Todd Standing falls into that category of people who had legitimate sightings. And I've been seeing a lot of it lately, but those have legitimate sightings or they'll have legitimate experiences. And then it's almost like they start fabricating. I can't figure out why they start fabricating, but it seems like everything then becomes big foot, everything. You know, either they kind of go off the deep end and they have big foot on the brain or they fall into the second category, kind of like Todd Standing, where it's obvious, he's hoaxing, it's faking, it's fabricating.

What I think happens on a lot of these cases or a lot of these people that come into this subject, they have an encounter. It just sort of excites him to the point where there's that adrenaline rush and they want to become famous. They want to do all this stuff. but and what's you and I both know this after the first sighting you know you're lucky if you get another one after that but it could be many many years for me it was I think 14 years to the next one and that was 26 years ago but a lot of these people can't say well okay I'll go out and do some research I'll do whatever they have to have that next rush it's almost like taking drugs you know they want to go to the next high so then they can't get it so then they start to advocating stuff. And especially if they get a television show or something like that, then they're really hooked. Well, the pressure sure is on at that point. I mean, he's got Melchrum, and now he's got Lesraud. The Lesrault has been a star in his own right. He produces his own shows and directs his own shows, and he's got ratings to the roof, and now your train is

hooked to that, so you better, you better produce something. Right. That's the gravy train for him. So that's his claim to fame and fortune, you know. So if he doesn't do something, he's out on his ear. You know, and the unfortunate thing is he, like you said, he probably genuinely really does want to experience it again or see something again. And some of these people that get propelled into those positions, and they don't really have any foundation in the subject. So they're kind of thrown out there to the wolf, so to speak,

and then they don't know what to do because they have no. experience being a Sasquatch, honey. You know, sometimes I think a TV show would be better just to show the real side of it instead of going into abandoned houses and having the production crew bang on the siding for you and you go out and unload buckshot on half the county. I think that, you know, what's show the real side of it? What show could we be referring to? I don't remember the title of that one.

It's escaping me right. I know. Some of these people that come into this stuff like our buddy Rick Dyer, those people to come along and do this junk make the whole subject look horrible. That's why nobody will, nobody in professional circles will touch this with a 10-foot pole. Well, I wonder what they did with the Hank Mobile, you know? Didn't that get, like, repoed or I don't, where is that now? I think that's what it was, yeah.

I'm sure he's probably using Hank. is a pillow now or something. It would be comfortable. I mean, it's just a stuffed dog, guys. Exactly. Comfy. Oh, my goodness, a pillow. That was incredible.

Maybe that's one of those body pillow things. I don't want to go there. Oh, yeah. It would definitely be a full body pillow. Hank was a big doll. He was large. They needed a whole trailer for him. Maybe Rick gets a lot.

You know, I don't want to know about it, but you know. Yeah. That might be the nicest word we use for him, right? That's right. We're going to tell Renee another time, but for now we'll call him lonely. Lonely. I like that, Will. It's like, okay, Zip Mung's word after that, lonely.

That's right, lonely. That's a lot of mass. We have been all. We're just having a good time right now. This is one of those evenings, you know. It is. It really is. Look what I've started.

Okay. Moving along, we'll leave tricky ricky alone right now. People could just imagine what it would be like to sit around the campfire with all of us with beer and our hands. Yeah, right? This is without the beer. So imagine. Well, what a nice segue right into my next item on the list. There we are.

Campfire. Thank you for the assist. Gave you a nice lead in. You absolutely did. because it's about the, uh, it's about, it's about the Yakma,

Bigfoot Roundup. Um, I spoke to Tom Amarone a couple days ago. Shout out to Tom. He's a super nice guy. Um, it was really great to talk to him on the phone. He's,

you know, he's got that good together. He's, um, he's doing. And, um, Will,

are you going to go to that? Yeah, Will, are you going? Thank you for putting him on the spot. I was going to do it, but now you get to beat it back guy. Can we just,

can we just, Just get a yes or no. Hopefully. That means no. He's not going. That means no? Oh, no. No, it doesn't.

Okay, it's a definite maybe. It means he's got other plans. It's a definite maybe. I'll tell you what, Shannon, let's place bets on it. I'll put 40 bucks down right now that Will's not going. What do you want, you want to match that or you want to? I mean, yeah, I'll definitely at least match that. Unfortunately, you might, you know, have some insider information here, so I don't know.

if I can trust you on this bet. Let's say 80. Oh, now I know you have inside information. No, we do hope that Will is going, for sure. I hope he doesn't. I got 80 bucks writing on it. Oh, see, now I shouldn't take the bet because maybe Will wants to make you some money and help you out. So now I'm not going to think of that.

Are you going to go to it, Shannon? It's lost her now. Man, what a mess. This Google Plus is kind of a. a mess. No, if you can get time off. Yeah, I think so. If you can get time off, you should go, ma'am. I'll probably take my mics away I did last time, like at the Beachfoot, set up interviews.

It's like the life of the party just left. I know. What's going on with that? I think we lost her. I think so. She's not so fast at coming back on. Oh, here she goes. Sorry, that was not fast that time. Talk about something else. Here she's done. I'm back. Stop talking about that fake bet.

Now that you're back, Shannon. I'd like to actually increase it. Let's go $500. I'm going to say, Will's not going. Whoa, I know you guys talk about when I was gone. Dang, internet connection. Can't let that happen again. What kicked you off, actually? I know, right? On error occurred on Google Hangouts. It's just strange.

I see what's going on here. Okay. Next action item. I was going to say you're going right, Shannon. Oh, definitely. Yeah, absolutely. She's an iron purple up there. You should come well.

I'm going to try to. Definitely, maybe. That's good. Uh-oh. He's shaking his head, Will. 500 bucks. I can't believe it. Get your checkbook ready.

Yakima, a Bigfoot roundup is worth much more than $500. What are the dates on that? Is it 10th, 11th? And of 12th. Well, yeah. Next month. Yeah.

There's a video that I posted on the page. It consisted of some Canadian gentleman, and they were standing up on a bluff, flipping down over a glacier, and it is not a kid-friendly video. Okay, they are dropping F-bongs, which adds to the authenticity of, you know, what they're seeing because they're a little shocked and surprised.

It appears to be a very large figure of some sort, considering the distance that it's, you know, from them, from their vantage point. And it is absolutely booking it down this glacier. And Will you, I know that we had chatted and you said that you saw it and you found it to be interesting. It's not one of those in your face videos or the, you know, the quintessential walking away video. you can't really see too much, except that it does seem to be something large, and it is traversing the terrain quite well. Yeah, and it's kind of an unusual location for, I mean, bear are normally hibernating, you know, those conditions.

So, and I don't remember what time of year it was supposed to be shot, but it's kind of out of place for what's there and what it's doing. It's just a little different than, you know, the norm that we see. you know, it's not a stump squatch that's not moving kind of a thing. So that was nice to see. Or not a blob squatch. Yeah, no more blob squatches, guys. Those things are worthless.

I mean, really, if a picture is not fairly clear, and a lot of these are guesswork. You see a picture of trees, and then somebody, the next picture, they've drawn lines where they think something is. Yeah. And it's always amazing to me in these blob squatch pictures, if the creature happens to be the same colors

as the surrounding foliage. Now, tell me why the Sasquatch is various shades of green. It's odd, isn't it? Yeah, come on, folks. It's just trees and stuff, you know. Didn't you hear it's their new, auto camo, which they press for themselves? And now it's yellow circles instead of red circles, which somehow adds validity because they're yellow circles now, guys. So there's that.

Oh, well. Yeah. That reminds me of the interdimensional guys years ago, who we called him the, button pusher. He says, well, they move in and out of dimensions because in another dimension, they're food for dinosaurs. So when they're about to be caught and eaten, they say, I don't push a, maybe they push a button in their chest and they go into our dimension. And I thought, I wonder what button he pushes to come back into our dimension. Yeah, where's your button, man? Where's your button? Because I don't want to hear anymore. Yeah, so yellow circles. Yay.

it's gone past even blob squatches. And now the new thing is they'll just show a picture of the forest, and then they'll tell you there's 30 Sasquatches there. Yeah. There's a bunch of damn nuts. I mean, really. There's just one guy on there who's actually, and I won't mention his name, but he's actually a really nice guy outside of Bigfoot,

but the moment he starts talking about Bigfoot, and I kind of seen him decline mentally since the last time I talked to him, but now he's saying that they have between 30 and, 100 Sasquatches on his property and they just post these pictures and it's kind of turning to like a religious Is that the one that says that they have the He spotted a human female half naked hanging out with the big foot on his property? I think how does it sound me out.

And then the comments were like, you don't want to call the police if you have a half naked woman run around property? You know, it's just I mean, it's, Maybe he's lonely too. Yeah, lonely. That's our new

code work, period. That's fantastic, that's cold word. You can tell it's attention, too, because he kind of posts like, don't take offense to this, Shannon. I won't, believe me. He kind of posts like a woman on Facebook. He's like, I'm done with everyone.

I'm going to leave for a while, and I'm tired of everyone's comments. I think I've seen that. And then if you look at it, the timestamp, an hour and a half later, he's like, I'm back, everyone. I'm blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, you know, the clue ought to be when you talk like a nut and put things out publicly, you're going to get the reactions that you, based on what you put out there.

Yeah. So if you talk like a cooom, people are going to respond to you like a cook. He's a mess. Yeah, it's gotten bad. It's gotten real bad. And for all the people on YouTube world, I don't have cancer. I'm not. I know I'm pale.

I'm actually not that male. I can get the red background. Did you see the comments about the, remember I was teasing you about the satanic background? Yeah. And people were actually saying that on YouTube. Yeah. Uh-oh, we lost her again. Yeah, we lost her.

There goes our ratings. That's right. Right in the toilet. We'll tie it, everyone. Yeah, the biggest criticism we got was, I don't remember. I think people were saying that. Like I said, I'm not as pale as I look on camera. everyone thinks that I had cancer.

The other complaint is they can't hear Will, and then the other comment we'll have is like, well, and Shannon's hot. It's the same person posting over and over again. Right, exactly. Yeah, can we get anybody else's opinion? Yeah, exactly. The last thing I wanted to mention,

I don't know if everybody knows, but we do have two different Facebook pages you can go to. There's the radio station page that has these Sass Squad Chronicles logo, you know, as the quote-unquote profile picture. The other one is also called Bigfoot Hotspot Radio. It is a public group and it will just have like whatever the last four people that posted on the page. That will be the profile picture is four different people. Will gets on there quite often in comments and posts and I get on there quite a bit. Maybe we'll start reeling West in there to get him on there too. But yeah, everybody come join us on that page as well.

I'm not actually a part of that group. West is a hot tub. Right. He's in the hot tub. Use it in the hot tub. Yeah, I found that group. I don't know. Was it about a month and a half ago, Shannon?

I think you ran there. Yeah. What is this group? Whoever created this group? I was like, this is cool. I went down through all the lists of comments. I was like, wow, this group's pretty cool. And I realized I had ad-noon privileges in the group.

I was like, wow, this is nice. It's sweet. Yeah, it's a busy little page, huh Will? Oh, yeah. We get to going in there. Beat somebody up, you know? Yeah, you want to sometimes, don't you? I know, I do.

I really have to refrain sometimes. I know. I can only have met. So, yeah, that's my all-encompassing, exciting news. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. And out. Betting is sweeping across the country faster than the coronavirus and wagering week is your antidote.

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