Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:480 Female Bigfoot stalks and kills a hog
Episode Date: October 12, 2018A listener writes "Hello Wes, I witnessed a female Bigfoot stalk and kill a hog on the bank of the Sabine River back years ago, I grew up in La, right on the Sabine Rivers backwaters and hunted, fishe...d, and trapped it all my life from the Texas state line to the north, and south down to the Toledo Bend Lake and all the backwaters in between, since I was old enough to get in a boat. My family made our living like this since they first come here from Mississippi back in 1900. I am 54 now, and in all my time in the woods etc, I've only seen this creature three times. Once when I was six y/o sitting in a deer blind with my uncle. At 34 when it ran across the road outside Diana TX on lil cypress bayou, and when I watched it stalk a pack of young hogs and kill one. I have not seen one since. I've heard you say that folks from the south won't hardly speak of it.. We don't as a rule talk to outside folk of such things because of ridicule etc, But I'm where I don't give a damn anymore" Check out MYBookie here: Join now and MYBookie will match your deposit dollar for dollar. Use promocode (CHRONICLES) to activate the offer Visit MyBookie Online today. that's M-Y-B-O-O-K-I-E and don't forget to use the promo code (CHRONICLES) when creating your account to claim the bonus. YOU PLAY , YOU WIN , YOU GET PAID Check it out here: https://mybookie.ag/?affid=2022
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Black thing go from left to right, and I thought, I'm going to die out here and no one's ever going to know.
I couldn't believe what my eyeballs was showing me.
I'll never forget how evil the eyes were.
It was horrible.
I mean, I've never seen nothing that evil.
It ran towards me at a rate that I can't even explain, turned and stared at me.
And this look of, I just want to kill you.
I want to say it was human, but it wasn't.
He was yelling out, he'd he grab a gun, grab a gun.
I was like, for what? He said, just grab a gun.
And there's footprints all the way to the door of my house.
It had went inside my garage all the way to the door.
911, what are you reporting?
Get somebody out here.
What's going on now, sir?
That son of a bitch is about six foot, nine, I don't know.
Do you see him now, sir?
Yes, I'm looking right at him.
Uh-oh.
You're listening to Sasquatch Chronicles.
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My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com.
Welcome to the show, everyone.
Thanks for being here tonight.
Got a great show planned for you tonight.
I'm going to be talking to Shane.
And Shane had three very fascinating encounters growing up.
He's down there in Louisiana, Texas border.
And he's known about these creatures most of his life, but never really gave it too much thought.
So he'll be sharing all three encounters with us tonight.
Very fascinating stuff, especially his last encounter, where he's up in a tree stand,
and he watches one of these creatures kill a hog, and then it sniffs the air and walks right up to the tree where he's got his tree stand in,
and it stops, and it looks up at him.
Fascinating, fascinating stuff.
If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email.
My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com.
And if you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member, get additional shows.
And tomorrow night, I kind of had to move things around due to some technical issues, but I will be back tomorrow night for the members.
I have a great encounter.
It's very similar to this one.
So hopefully we can get him to come on and we don't have any technical issues.
So for the members, I will be back tomorrow night.
Let's jump into it, though.
I want to welcome Shane to the show. Shane, thanks for coming on.
Thank you, Wes. I'm glad to be here.
Yeah, I appreciate you being here, man. And I know you've had three sightings.
Your last encounter is terrifying. I've heard many encounters like that where Sasquatch
actually runs down a hog, and you got a front row seat to see it. But you actually,
this wasn't your only encounter. You've had a couple encounters throughout your life down in that
area. If you would, would you kind of start from the very beginning? Tell us about your first
encounter. What were you doing and what did you see?
Well, my family, Marshall
Fisherman on the Sabine River and on
Toledo Bay in the lake, and they all hunted and trapped and
logged, things like that.
That was just the
family I grew up in.
And so we were always out in the woods.
I mean, back then, of course, God, there wasn't
no daycare, wherever someone went. That's where you went.
You know? And
so,
We were always out in the woods, and we all started hunting young.
When I was four, I was shooting a little old 22 rifle.
By the time I was six, I had a little 4-10 shotgun,
and I'd go squaw hunting with my Uncle Mac.
And, you know, it was just something you did.
It was just natural to us to be out there in the woods.
And anyhow, we had went out, me and my Uncle Mac,
and he wanted to go deer hunting,
and we had this little deer blind set up on the ground,
down there down in a bottom, you know, hardwood bottom.
And it's real open through there.
There's not a lot of underbrush.
And you can see for quite a ways, and it was where two creeks had come together.
And we were on the other side of this creek in a blind.
And looking out across this, you know, big area that was just trees and no brush.
It was kind of clear.
So there you could see real good.
And anyhow, we're just.
We were sitting there, and I seen it was wintertime in October, and it was a little cold that morning.
And, you know, typical kid, I'm sitting there just cold as I can be, and I'm looking at everything.
And it was just getting light good.
I've seen, to me, what looked like a man, walking across about, I don't know, 100, 120 yards out.
and he was walking kind of catty corn out of one thicket to the left
over to this little thicket that stuck out a little bit on the right,
little pine thicker.
And it was probably maybe 50 yards across to get two from one to the other.
And he just kind of, this thing just kind of lumbered out.
It walked across.
And I was looking at it.
And I thought, well, someone else is in here hunting.
and what was odd about it was when it got to the other side of the thicket,
it walked in, and you could still see its head and shoulders walking through the thicket, easing through it.
And I asked my uncle Mac, I said, I said, who's that big black man walking through the thicket over there?
I said, he's in here hunting with us.
And my uncle, he just kind of looked at it, and about the time it walked a little more,
and it just sort of ducked down and disappeared.
and I never will forget it.
My Uncle Matt turned white as a sheet.
I mean, just ghost white.
And he looked at me and he said, let's go home.
I was like, okay, you know.
And we got it, went home and he never mentioned it again or anything else.
But as I got older, I realized what it was that I had seen and what he had seen too.
and I had mentioned it to him once
when I was old.
I was about,
I guess,
maybe 10 or 12,
and one day
he was watching TV,
and they showed the Patterson Gimlin film
on TV.
I looked at my uncle,
and I said,
that's what we seen in the woods that day.
That's what I seen.
And he just kind of looked at me,
and he got a funny look on his face,
and he said,
there ain't nothing like that down here.
that's all up there in Washington State.
He said, ain't nothing like that down here.
There's nothing to be afraid of in the woods.
And that's all he would ever say about it.
Yeah.
And I hear a lot of hunters react that way.
I think because they don't want to give up hunting.
So it's easier to live in ignorant bliss than it is to acknowledge what you saw.
That's the only thing I can get from it.
Yeah.
But it didn't scare me because at the time, I just thought, honest God,
I just thought it was a big black man walking across the woods down there.
I mean, that's what it looked like.
Of course, being, you know, six years old, I didn't think, you know, why ain't this man wearing clothes?
Yeah, I hear you.
And it is, you know, kids, I think most of the time kids react different than we do.
Tell us about your next encounter, if you would.
How many years later did this happen?
Oh, Lord.
I was, I believe, 34, 35, something like that.
And I was coming home, coming down Farm Road 154 out of Gilmore, headed back to Marshall, Texas.
And I got to the bridge there where Little Cypress Bayo is.
And that runs all the way through East Texas up into Caddo Lake, through Jefferson.
anyhow, it had rained a lot, and it was flooded, and that road's elevated, built way up,
and it's a lot of flat land in there, and it was flooded.
It had two or three feet of water in it, and I'd come around a curve, and was headed down,
and it was getting kind of dusky, and I've seen something on the right side of the road kind of step up,
and what made it catched my eye was it stepped in front of a,
sign.
The sign there that says the distance to Marshall.
And that's what caught my eye, and I looked at it.
It looked like a big black shadow.
A lot of people fish down there and everything.
And I thought maybe someone was fishing that was crossing the road.
It was wintertime.
It was an overcast day.
And I thought it was, really, I thought it was someone in one of those big black
duster coats that folks wear.
and so I let up off the accelerator and hit my bright lights.
And anyhow, when I did it stepped in the middle of the road, it looked up at me,
and I seen two red eyes.
And then it took another step, and it was off the road,
and down the side of the bank there.
let off
I let off
this
elevator and I thought
what in me
heck is that
I stopped
right there
at the bridge
I stopped
and it's just a little
two lane road
with no traffic
on it
I was the only person
on there
I stopped
got out of the car
and walked
back to where it crossed
and it was
just a trail of water
I guess it
dripped off of it
that went across
the road
and I was at the
back of the car
and I turned
and looked, I heard something going through the woods, and I turned and looked and stepped to the
edge of the road where I heard the noise, and you could hear it going, splashing, going through the woods.
I just kind of, you know, realize, you know, you're standing here with nothing, not even a pocket
nap in your hand, and you just seen something that big go across the road. You better get back
that car. And so I did, and was coming home, and I thought,
Well, I guess I need to call the sheriff and tell them what I've seen or, you know, whatever.
And I thought, no, I ain't calling a lot.
They're going to think I'm a nut.
You know, no one's going to believe this.
And so I just sort of kept it to myself.
It just went on, you know.
Let me ask you.
Was there the eyeshine?
Was it eyeshine that you saw?
You mentioned red eyes?
I think it was the light coming off your headlights?
Yeah.
It was just, it was like, you know, you're driving.
in that you shine a dog or a cocoon or something like that,
except it was kind of a, it wasn't really,
it was kind of an amber color.
I got you.
It wasn't really red, red, like a fire, kind of like coals,
an orangeish looking red kind of color.
I gotcha.
Was there any other details you remember?
I realize it's like a 1-1-000-2-1-1-1-1-2-1.
thousand type encounter, but...
Yeah, it was quick.
I mean, this thing took two steps and it crossed the two-lane road.
And that road doesn't have any shoulders.
It's built up.
And there ain't no shoulder on the road.
I mean, it smokes directly down about 10 to 12 feet on both sides.
And it stepped up in front of the sign, and that's what caught my eye.
And just as quick as it stepped up, and it, I've seen, you know, it was something there.
in the road.
And deer and hogs are bad about that road running across it.
And so I hit my brides real quick so I could see it, see what it was.
And you could tell it was something on two legs.
And I let off the accelerator.
I thought, well, there's someone fishing there across the road with her.
But this thing literally took two steps and crossed that road, and it was down that hill,
just that quick.
When it stepped, it took that first step across is when I hit my, in the middle of the roads,
when I hit my brights, and then it glanced up at me, and then it went straight down the next step,
and then off the road quick.
It was gone.
Yeah, it's bizarre, because you hear this behavior all the time with these things, and I don't,
I don't understand it, because you know he heard you coming.
You know he heard the car coming, and he waited until the last minute to get up on the road,
and it's just odd to me that they do that.
But you hear him do it all the time, that they'll wait until the last second cross right in front of you,
And I'm surprised more people don't him, you know, going across the road.
Because you hear that a lot.
You hear this behavior a lot.
It's just bizarre to me.
Like I say, I know that it's just an animal.
I just sort of, after that second encounter, I thought, well, you know, okay, you know, it's up here.
So I went on about my business, you know.
It's one thing that you see that, you know, happens like, you know, once in a lifetime.
or whatever, it's just an oddity.
And I didn't really give it another fault.
I kind of looked into Bigfoot a little bit after that.
And that's when I found I got on the Internet,
and I'd found the, at the time, I think it was in the TRBC,
Craig Woolheater, I think was a fellow that was running it at the time.
And I reported the sighting on 144 to them.
and they sent a man out, and Charles DeVore was his name.
He's passed away now.
But me and him become friends.
And anyway, you know, we talked about whatever,
and he would ask me a lot of questions because I was,
I grew up in the woods hunting and trapping and fishing and things like that,
and I knew a lot about animals and their instincts and, you know,
just outdoor type things.
And anyhow, he would call off and ask me questions.
about things. But I never really, I didn't go looking for Bigfoot or anything like that.
I'm not a researcher. It's just a dang animal. I'll just a wood monkey is what we used to call
them, you know, you hear, folks in Louisiana are funny. Everyone knows things there, but no one
talks about it. People don't say much about it, especially the outside people, because, you know,
folks, I guess they're afraid to be a made fun of or flicking their crack pot or whatever.
So, you know, no one really talks about it. But everyone knows it's there, you know.
Yeah, I would agree with you, Shane. I think that most people, not just people of the South, but I think most people after they have an encounter, what ends up happening is they tell one person, that person makes fun of them, and then they never speak of it again.
And that's generally what happens. And it's not just down in the South. It's interesting, though, people down in the South.
You'll hear a lot of people say, you know, I thought this was a Pacific Northwest problem, a problem there in Washington, a problem in California, a problem in Oregon.
This isn't supposed to be down here.
And you hear a lot of people say that, even on the East Coast people say that.
And I think it's a shocker when they run into them.
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But when we come back, Shane, I really want to hear your last encounter.
When you were up in a tree stand and one of these things killed a hog in front.
front of you while you're up in a tree stand.
And so we'll hear about that when we come back.
And we'll get back to Shane here in a moment.
You've got to hear his last encounter.
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Let's jump back to Shane.
Shane, if you would, would you walk us into your third encounter?
I know this is the last encounter.
You haven't seen them ever since, but this encounter is probably the most fascinating.
If you would, walk us into it.
What were you doing?
And just kind of start from the beginning, if you would.
We have done with savvy.
Come down here, these hives are everywhere.
and I said, all right, we'll do it.
So I went down there and stayed with him there at his camp,
and next morning we got up, and he knew this little old spot up there.
And so I took some apples and some scraps and different things we had,
and I said, well, I'll put this down.
I said, then it'll call them in.
I said, it'll hold them long enough for me to get shot.
And he's like, yeah, I'm going to go upriver just a little bit.
So he put me out on the bank.
I had a little old bag that had some scraps in it.
and had my climbing tree stand in my 270.
Well, I put the bait out and got back on that little peninsula sticking out,
and there was a good pine tree there.
I had a climbing stand, and so I hooked it up and climbed up,
and I was probably maybe 20, 25 feet in the air.
And down there it was April.
It was a cool morning, but the mosquitoes,
down there
will kill you in that
backwater.
I mean,
they're just,
they will swarm
you ungodly.
And so I had my
little camo headnet on
and my
chemo clothes and everything.
I climbed up there
while I'm sitting there
and it's like,
we went out early,
it was still dark.
And I wanted to get
everything ready
for the sun come up.
Anyway,
so I did that
and got up,
I got up in my stand.
I'm sitting there,
waiting on the sun to come.
And I can
hear these hogs rooting
coming.
And
hogs make a lot of noise
in the woods.
You wouldn't think
it, but they do.
You get a group of hogs,
and they will just sound like a
combine
coming down to the woods
because they're kicking up
everything and they're grunting at each other
and just carrying on.
So I knew they were coming down
river along the bank.
They've got to walk right straight
into what I got.
So I'm sitting there and I'm waiting.
The sun's coming up.
It's just breaking light good where you can actually see something, kind of dim.
I'm hearing them and I'm listening, and I'm looking around.
I know where they're at.
The hogs are to my left.
I know where they're coming from.
So I'm looking back the other way, just looking around.
And I've seen something just like to go from tree to tree real quick.
And I could tell it was big.
And I was like, well, is that, you know, a deer?
What is it?
So I put my scope on it, and I'm looking at this tree,
and I can see something black behind it.
And I still can't figure out what it is,
and I reached up there, and I turned my scope up,
so I could see.
And about that time, I've seen about half of a face
come out from behind the edge of this tree and peek around it.
and I was like just shocked.
You can't explain what what it's like to see that face.
And it was steady looking out towards where the hogs were at.
And then it went back behind the tree.
And I'm steady looking at it through my scope,
and I'm trying to find out where it's at,
because it disappeared.
And I seen its movement again, and I got on that spot, and I'm looking.
And I can't see its face, but I see its leg.
On the side of the tree, I can see its leg, and I can see its hand on the side of the tree.
And where I'm at, it's a big bottom.
And trees in there hadn't been, I don't think they've ever been cut off in there.
but they're big, big, massive oaks.
Looking about that time, I see it step out real quick from behind one tree.
And sort of, you know how you sort of do it like a,
if you're trying to like get up on a curb or something,
like you'll do it like a jump step.
Right, yeah.
That's what it did.
It just sort of like you did this little half leaping jump step.
thing from one tree to the next, closer, and it'd get behind it.
And it'd peek out and it'd look and it'd go back.
And it'd peek out and it'd look and it'd go back.
And it was steady coming closer and closer and closer.
And I'm looking at it and just, like, I wasn't really scared, but at the same time,
I was like about to just blow up inside the adrenaline was just.
I mean, just crazy because I couldn't believe I was actually seeing this, you know.
And so I'm watching it and I'm looking at, I glanced back at the hogs, I'm glancing back at it,
and it disappeared.
I'd had to find it in the scope.
I'd look and look, looking, and then suddenly it'd move something, and I'd pick up on the movement,
and I'd drill in on it, you know, looking at it.
And it got closer and closer.
Well, finally it closed the distance to where it was right in front of me,
and I'm 25 feet up in the tree stand.
I'm looking down, and it's behind this oak tree,
this big, massive oak tree in front of me,
probably about 60 feet out from where I'm up.
And I'm looking at it.
And that's when I got scared,
because then I realized how big this thing is.
I'm just like I'm holding my breath,
Just trying not to make no noise, nothing.
And have you ever tried to be still when you're excited?
Yeah, it's almost impossible, but I know what you mean.
You're like holding your breath.
I get it.
I completely get it, yeah.
I would have been doing the same thing.
It's like, you know, when you're deer hunting and you first see a deer come out,
that what they call buck fever.
Right, yeah.
I mean, you're excited.
Everything on you is just sitting on go.
and you don't know whether to scream or wind you watch.
You just there yet.
You know, you just own it.
And so that's where I'm at, and I'm just like,
I got a thousand thoughts running through my mind looking at this thing,
trying to figure out what it is and what's going on and everything else.
Anyhow, it's there behind the tree.
It walks down a little bit, and it looks out the side of the tree,
and I look over there and those hogs are around my boat.
and they're eating.
And they've got their back to it.
They're facing the river.
They got their back to it.
Anyhow, this thing just sort of eases out in a squat
and squats down all the way down.
It puts its hands are straight.
Its arms are straight.
Just like you do, you know how you go to the zoo?
You see a gorilla squat with their arms straight up.
Yeah.
and their butt down.
That's what this thing looks like.
It looked like a gorilla.
And at first, that's what I thought it was when I started seeing it.
And you know, it squats down.
It's got his fingers curled under.
It's on its knuckles, just like a muck you'll do.
But his thumb was back.
It was up and back.
Their hands are different.
They got a displaced thumb.
It's back further.
and anyhow it squats down and it gathers itself like you see a cat that's fixing a pounce on something.
You know how a cat kind of shake their back end and just sort of bow up.
That's what this thing did.
And I'm watching, I ain't even looking at the scope.
I mean, I'm looking at it just straight on.
It gathers itself up and it leaped.
And when I say leap, I mean this thing leaped through the air.
Like just ungodly.
It hit the ground, the first leap, it hits the ground and leaps again.
When it comes off the ground, it lets out this ungodly scream.
They're just so loud and just, you know how you hear a loud noise sometimes?
and it just like it tickles the inside of your ear.
Yeah.
It's so loud.
I mean, you can literally physically feel it.
You can physically feel it.
It let out this ungodly, just roaring scream.
When it did, the hogs all just sort of fainted, just sort of, and by faint, I mean they kind of, squatting down and turn to run.
When they did, this thing hit.
the ground and the halls go to turn and it's right on a three of a group of them and it takes its hand
and it slaps one right in the side and this hog goes flying it flies just flies up in the air
and hits the side of an oak tree and when it did by the time that little hog could hit the side
of that oak tree and hit the ground this thing is
on it.
Its right hand comes out
and just
grabs it right by the neck
and it's on its side kicking.
The right hand grabs it
on the neck.
The left hand
rares up
and its hind legs kind of come up a little bit
and all of its weight and strength
come down in that left hand and hit this thing
right and the side.
Pound it. Pound it. Just like you
just pound a table.
I mean, just, and of course, there's a little quick, I mean, that's it.
It's dead.
That there, that was it.
You could, that thing hit so hard and so quick, you could, you could literally hear the rib bones on that pig breaking.
Jesus.
I mean, they cracked like a rifle shot.
And I ain't gonna lie to you.
That scared me to death.
Up to that point, I was kind of excited, kind of.
of anxious and, you know, what, what is it?
But when I seen that thing attack like that, that scared me to death.
I have never seen anything move that quick.
I've seen bobcats, you name it, attacks game.
But nothing like that.
Nothing.
It just, bam, and it was there, man.
and this thing just literally just hit this thing in the side, just pounded it.
And when it let quit, the side of that low hog, it was probably maybe a 150-pound pig,
the side of it was literally just stove in where it hit it.
I mean, it was just pushed in like you just take your thumb and stick it in some dough,
just caved in.
And it stood up,
it grabbed the pig, it picked it up.
I'm sitting there and I'm shaking.
I mean just shaking.
It turns, it walks back the way that it came.
It gets about almost in front of me.
It tips its head back.
It makes this growling noise.
And then it makes this whoop sound.
And it's like, it tips, it goes, and it stops.
Well, about that time, the same noise comes back from my right.
And you can tell there's a little ridge that runs through there about 100 yards back.
And this noise comes from that ridge.
And I hear it.
And I'm immediately, I'm thinking, oh, you know, God, there's two of them in here.
It's not just one, there's two.
So I'm looking back at it.
And this thing,
it's still got the little pig under his arm.
It takes a couple more steps.
It gets right in front of me.
It stops.
It looks around,
and then it looks,
at the base of the tree I met,
looks past it.
And it tips its nose up,
and you can see it smelling.
And then it turns back to that.
tree and it follows a base of that pine tree right up to my stand.
And that thing is looking at me right in the face.
Just, I can't put you this way.
It was all I could do to hold my water.
Yeah, I bet.
When this thing looked at me.
I bet.
You're probably thinking you're next.
I mean, it was all I could do to keep hold of my faculties.
I was in sheer.
terror. Now I'm sitting, mind you, I'm sitting here with a with a 270 pointed right at it.
And in my mind, I'm thinking, I ain't got enough gun. This thing, I just watched it jump a good
20 foot at a lick. I ain't high enough. And I don't have enough gun. And I'm just like,
just, I'm just like, paralyzed, literally just paralyzed,
looking at this thing.
And it just kind of looks at me, and it cocks its head to the side.
And kind of like, and I know this is the part that sounds crazy.
It kind of grinned.
No, it didn't, like, bear its teeth like it was going to, you know, bite me or anything.
It just kind of grinned.
It kind of just had a smile to its face, kind of.
and it was looking at me.
It had an expression on its face like,
what are you doing up there?
I mean, that was just a feeling I got.
It wasn't a threatening feeling.
It just looked at me like, you know,
you're not supposed to be here.
What are you doing up there?
And it just sort of looked at me
and it looked out this little growl,
this little, er, like that.
And then it looked back,
picked up the hog under its left on,
and walked away.
and it got about maybe, I don't know, 50, 60 yards away.
It kind of turned and looked at me once,
and then it walked through the woods.
I watched it walk through the woods,
and then it disappeared in the Foley Checker.
About that far, it disappeared.
And I couldn't see it.
I could hear it walking, but I couldn't see it.
I was just dumbstruck.
I didn't know whether to scream, cry,
or what?
I just didn't know what.
I was just in shock.
And I sat there for about 30 minutes
and I come down,
crested down,
climb my tree stand down,
and I was going to walk up river away
from where it was to find my buddy.
And about that time
as I was coming down,
and I'll, he pulled up.
And he asked me,
I told him, I said,
I said, you're not going to believe
what I just seen.
you're not going to believe me.
You're going to take him crazy.
And he just kind of laughed.
He said, what is it?
I said, I just seen a Bigfoot.
I said, or a gorilla or something.
I don't know what I said, but I've seen it.
It just killed a hog.
I seen it.
He said, yeah, I heard something holler.
He said, I thought that was you hollering for me.
He said, that's why I come back.
And I said, no.
You didn't hear me holler.
I said, you heard that thing holler.
So anyhow, we got my stand and stuff, and we got out of a boat and went over there.
Well, there wasn't any tracks.
There wasn't no, you know, anything like that.
You can see where the pigs is rooted up and all of that.
There was spot of blood on the side of the tree where it hit, and I guess it scraped it
or whatever when it hit the tree.
And there was a little bit of blood on the ground, a couple drops of blood on the tree.
around, I guess it come out of its mouth when it hit it.
That's amazing.
That was it.
There was no other sign other than that.
Yeah.
Can you describe the face as far as what you saw?
What I've seen was a, it was like a mixture of a, you know, you've seen the planet of the apes movies?
Yeah, of course, yeah.
All right.
Okay.
This thing looked like.
Caesar in the face, the leader of them.
It was kind of ape-looking, but at the same time, it had human features at the same time.
It had a nose.
It didn't have a nose like a monkey does.
It has a nose like a human being does.
It had a wide mouth.
Its skin was kind of like ash.
Does that make sense?
of a grayish.
Yeah, kind of a gray.
Yeah.
Its eyes were brown, but it didn't have, it didn't have any whites in its eyes.
When it, it was kind of like in the sun a little bit, when it looked up at me, and you
could actually see its eyes, and the eyes were like a brownish color, just real, a real dark
brown.
They wouldn't, they wouldn't black.
The hair was kind of a black mixed with red, and it was about, maybe the hair was not,
maybe three inches long on it, just enough to where when it walked, the hair moved.
And it was a female, but what I seen was a female.
And you could plainly see it was a female.
But it wasn't, it might have been maybe six, maybe six a half, seven foot tall maybe.
And when you say female, because it had breasts, is that what you're saying?
Yeah.
Yeah, it had breasts on it.
But it wasn't like the Patterson Gimwin film.
You know, that one had the, was a really big one.
And it had big breasts.
This one here had a little bitty more like it was young.
They wasn't big or it hadn't nursed or anything like that.
You could tell.
But it had boobs, yeah.
There wasn't any smell.
There wasn't any, nothing.
And the odd thing was is that when it was coming in
and I'm watching it,
this thing's moving through the woods
and it ain't making a sound.
Now, through there, it's all oak leaves.
Okay, now it's early morning
there's a dew on the ground
and everything else.
But you know how it is
when you walk through oak leaves,
you're going to make noise.
You're going to go,
your feet are going to make noise.
Right?
Right, yeah.
This thing did not make any noise.
And when it moved,
even when it walked,
walked away. It made noise when it walked away, which was odd, looking back on it. But when it
walked away, they don't walk like we do. When you say that, what do you mean? They walk from their
hips. They walk from their hips. We walk from our knees down a lot. You know, our thighs don't
move that much when we walk. We, we walk from our knees down. They walk from their hips. They walk from their
hips. Their legs aren't, when we walk, our legs are straight. When they walk, their legs are
kind of bent at the thigh and at the knee. It's like they walk kind of in a squat. Does that make
sense? It does make sense. And I know exactly what you mean. It's very similar to what I saw.
You're right. If you or I tried to walk like they walk, Shane, we'd fall on our butts because
we just aren't, we're not equipped to walk the way they walk. I think, too, it has something to do
with their knee placement, like their knees are a little bit lower, kind of more, I guess,
where our shins would be.
Yeah.
It's kind of like their...
I tried to walk like it does.
And I've tried, got out there on the backyard, you know, and tried to walk like this thing.
And it's painful.
It hurts your hips.
It causes stressing, stressing your hips, if that makes any sense to you.
But to try to bend your hips and bend your knees at the same time and walk and remain upright,
it's a lot of muscle pressure to try to mimic it.
You can't hardly mimic the way they walk.
You could if your knee was placed where their knee is.
I agree with you 100%.
It's too much.
It's almost like when you try and walk like they walk,
we have too much weight, or maybe it's me.
We have too much weight upstairs to walk like that.
And so you tend to fall in your butt if you try and walk like that.
You're right, it is.
It's very bizarre the way they're built.
I think they're built like that.
that because they go down on all fours. And if you ever see them on all fours, they move
just as smooth and just as quick on all fours as they do upright. And I think it's just the way
their mechanics are. It's the way they're built. I'm curious, you think it's a wild animal.
Do you, when you're looking into the face of this saying, what do you think that they are?
I mean, beyond an animal, I mean, do you think it's some sort of unknown non-human primate?
Or do you think it's some form of a monkey?
I call it an animal, and I call it a monkey and everything.
But I looked at this thing, and I mean, it looked me right in the eyes.
And the look on its face, this thing has a soul.
No, it's aware.
It's self-aware, just like we are.
It has a soul.
It has thoughts.
because you could just tell.
You could tell when it was looking at me.
Because it looked at me,
and it was like you could read its mind in its expressions,
because it looked at me like,
you're not supposed to be here.
It kind of knitted its brow.
It tipped his head over the side.
It knitted its brow kind of.
And give me that look, you know, like,
you ain't, what are you doing here?
You are not supposed to be here.
You know, and you could tell.
It wasn't mad at me or anything.
It wasn't looking mean or even like that.
And it just kind of grinned at me.
Like, what are you doing?
And then it just turned.
It picked its little pig up and off it went.
Why do you think it didn't attack you?
I think it was surprised that I was there.
Because like I say, I was my climbing stands in camo.
It's camoed out.
I was in all camouflage with a headnet.
A camo headnet on the hat.
My rifle, my 270, is cammoed, and it's camoed out, even my scope.
And so I don't think it could really, maybe it couldn't really see exactly how big I was or what I was, but it knew I was.
It knew I was there.
Yeah, you're probably right.
I mean, you're probably more just surprised to see you.
I mean, where do you find most humans?
They're out walking around.
They're out walking on trails.
probably looked up and probably wasn't sure what to do, you know, with you.
I've heard reports like this before.
There was one, I think it was on Monster Quest where a guy was up in a tree and he was a bow hunter.
And he had pulled back the bow to, he was going to kill this thing.
It was sitting there looking right at him.
And he was shaking.
He wasn't sure what to do.
And it reached up and touched the broad of the end of the arrow and, I guess cut itself and ended up just knocking trees over
and freaking out.
But before it did that, he said it kind of looked up at him like,
what in the world are you?
Like, what is this thing?
Almost like it wasn't really sure it was a human.
And I almost wonder if it was the same situation with this thing.
It just got done killing this.
Coming in between a creature and its food is pretty dangerous.
But this thing probably, like you said, probably didn't know what you were.
It wasn't sure how to react.
I don't think it did.
Because, I mean, I had the outline of a human, yeah.
just like it does really.
But I was all cameoed out, and I don't think it really figured.
I know it smelled me.
That's how it found me was it smelled me.
Because when it stopped, there was a breeze that was at my back.
This breeze had come up, and it was at my back.
So it pushed my scent straight to it.
It stopped.
I mean, just stopped cold because it worked.
It was walking.
and then it stopped.
Its nose come up, and it went to looking.
And it looked right back.
It turned, and it looked past me, past the tree I was at.
It looks back to the left.
It's scanning the woods.
It comes back, and that breeze, that little breeze is coming,
and it goes right to the base of that tree.
Right?
I see its heads kind of down, looking at the base of the tree,
and she looks straight up.
She follows that tree straight up to my stand.
and I'm just like, I ain't going to cuss, but I was thinking it.
Yeah, I bet.
I bet.
You know, it's terrifying.
I mean, it's probably one of the more amazing encounters I've ever heard,
but I have heard of them doing attacking, like how you describe how they attack,
especially hogs.
I've heard it on a couple occasions.
The one, there's one in particular I can think of.
He was actually an FBI agent.
and he had grabbed, he was in a tree stand very similar to your situation.
Then he saw these hogs come out right underneath them.
And then what he describes as two large guerrillas came out of the brush, just flew out of nowhere.
And one of them grabbed one of the hogs, smashed it against a tree, and then they ripped it open and started eating it right in front of them.
And he's up there.
Same situation.
He's hoping not to pee himself.
He's opened.
They don't look up because he wants out of here.
And so, you know, it does happen more often than you would think.
He didn't want to come on the show, obviously, because he's his position and his job and everything.
But it does go on down there.
Do you hunt anymore?
Did you give that up?
I did for a little bit.
I'll be honest.
There was probably about, well, I know I missed probably one good deer season over it.
Because after seeing it and everything and after the, after the,
After that happened, I really started researching and trying to figure out, you know, exactly what these things are and everything else.
And I told Charles DeVore about it.
And he got Daryl Cogger to come and interview me.
And I spoke to Daryl, and he's got a thing going down in the big thicket.
I don't participate in any of that Bigfoot research stuff or anything.
I just, you know, did it for myself.
But I did for a while.
I was very wary of going out in the woods.
And then finally I just made peace with it and just realized, look, you know, this thing is a, it's an omnivore.
It's an apex predator.
it's as at home in the woods as you are in your living room.
When you come into its area, it smells you before you even show up.
It knows you're there.
Because if you think about a human being, for lack of a better word, we're a clunky animal.
We are.
We just sluff along and kick our feet and just rub up against stuff.
and wherever we want to take a pee in the woods, we take a pee and just keep on rolling, you know, if we're doing something.
And it smells this. It hears it. You're talking about an animal, a creature that has to live by its senses.
So its senses are five times better than yours are. It hears better. It smells better. It sees better.
The thing probably feels a vibration in the ground when you walk and I don't know.
but it knows.
I mean, look at it this way.
You go in the woods, you don't just walk up on a deer.
A deer hears you coming.
It smells you coming.
Why wouldn't this thing do it?
This thing hunts deer, need them.
So it's got to be faster, sharper, and quicker than a deer is.
It's got to be smarter than one.
Yeah, definitely an apex predator.
Definitely an apex predator.
Well, Shane, I appreciate coming on.
I appreciate you sharing your encounters.
I enjoyed hearing them very much, so thank you.
Oh, no problem.
I don't mind.
Like I say, I just found your show on YouTube.
I guess someone's pirating your show or listeners putting them on YouTube.
And because I hear you say, you know, if you hear this on YouTube, it isn't me or whatever.
But that's how I found you was by that.
And then from there I went to your site.
and that's how I got in contact with you over it.
But like I say,
I don't know who's putting you on YouTube,
but they're doing you righteous because, I mean, the shows are great.
That's how I found you.
And I mean, I love them.
I listen to everyone that gets put on there.
People want to say that the folks that see this thing are crackpots,
or they're crazy.
No, they're not.
They're just normal, everyday people.
to see an extraordinarily rarely seen things.
I couldn't agree more.
Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
And, you know, it's with YouTube, I've taken down most of the pirates,
and I've started up my own YouTube channel just for people to go listen to.
But I tend to agree.
They're just your normal average day, you know.
I've had a lot of cops on.
I've had a lot of judges on.
I've had a lot of their testimony in my mind is the same as a hunter or a fisherman or a hiker.
I mean, these are sane and sober, decent, just everyday people.
And, you know, if it's, looking back at it, if it's a hoax, it's been going on for over 500 years,
it's got to be the greatest troll ever if it's not real.
Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
I couldn't agree more, Shane.
I think that there's a ton of evidence.
There's a long history of these things.
And, you know, your encounter is another piece.
of the puzzle. I always say there are pieces of the puzzle you put together. And I find it
fascinating. It didn't attack you. It just kind of looked at you like, what in the world,
and then strolled off. But you got a chance to really see them in action, see them kill something.
And I'm jealous. I'm fascinated by it. But I appreciate you coming on, Shane. I appreciate you taking
the time to come on the show and share your encounter. Thank you again.
Well, thank you for having me. I appreciate it. Wow, what an encounter. And that's it for tonight.
everyone to remember if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is
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