Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:490 Silent Invasion With Stan Gordon

Episode Date: November 17, 2018

Stan Gordon has been researching UFO sightings, Bigfoot encounters, and other mysterious events in Pennsylvania since 1959. Since then, he has been involved with the investigation of thousands of unusual incidents. He is the primary investigator of the 1965 UFO crash incident that occurred near Kecksburg, PA. Stan has been taking calls on UFO sightings and other strange reports from the public since 1969, and he continues to receive unusual reports on a regular basis. Tonight Stan will be sharing some of the stranger reports with us. Check out his website at http://www.stangordon.info   Also check out Stan's Books:   Silent Invasion: The Pennsylvania UFO-Bigfoot Casebook Astonishing Encounters: Pennsylvania's Unknown Creatures Casebook Three

Black thing go from left to right, and I thought, I'm going to die out here and no one's ever going to know. I couldn't believe what my eyeballs was showing me. I'll never forget how evil the eyes were. It was a horrible. I mean, I've never seen nothing that evil. It ran towards me at a rate that I can't even explain, turned and stared at me. And this look of, I just want to kill you. I want to say it was human, but it wasn't.

He was yelling at me to grab a gun, grab a gun. I was like, for what? He said, just grab a gun. And there's footprints all the way to the door of my house. It had went inside my garage all the way to the door. 911, what are you reporting? Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about six foot, nine, I don't know.

Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right at him. Uh-oh. You're listening to Sasquatchew. Chronicles. Check us out online at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. If you've had an encounter, email me. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show planned for you tonight. Going to be talking to Stan Gordon, who's an author, investigator. He's been looking into UFO sighting since 1959. Really started looking into Bigfoot encounters too as well.

And he started finding some weird correlations between the UFO sightings he was investigating. And then there would be a big foot encounter nearby. But he's looked into a lot of different cryptids. And what I like about Stan is he'll take the time to actually go talk to a witness. No matter how weird the story is, he will take the time to go out and investigate it. And I respect that about him. Not a lot of these guys will do that. You know, you start talking about weird stuff and they're out.

So if you get a chance, check out his website, Stan Gordon. info. He's got a blog on there. you can buy his books. And some of the reports you'll hear tonight are from his book, Silent Invasion, the Pennsylvania UFO Bigfoot Casebook. And you can pick that up at Stan Gordon. Info, and a lot of the cases we'll discuss tonight are from that book. He also has astonishing encounters, Pennsylvania Unknown Creatures Casebook 3.

If you get a chance, go to his website, Stangordon.in. info. Thank you again to Stan for coming on. And as always, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance, please visit Sasquatch Chronicles.com. You can become a member, get additional shows. There's also a shop on there, so if you're looking for some ideas for Christmas, a lot of great merchandise at Sasquatch Chronicles.com.

Thank you again for being here. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Stan Gordon to the show. And Stan, I was just looking at your website. Not only can you get your books on there, but there's a movie, Kexberg, the untold story, or documentary. And everyone's aware of that famous UFO case. Yeah, and if you would for the audience, I know your background, but not everyone does. I mean, you started this in 59, and then I think in the late 60s, you started a hotline,

which was a novel idea back then, because who do you call when you see something weird? And I think even up until this day, a lot of people call the cops, and most of the time they don't help. But that's really where it started for you, isn't it, taking these calls? and going out and investigating these reports? I started in trying to set up some type of research group, a volunteer research group, because this was more than I could do on my own. So in 1970, I found the first of three volunteer research groups.

I will say, yeah. The first one was the Westmore County UFO study group. It started here in Greensburg, PA, where I live about 30 miles from Pittsburgh, PA. By 1973, we had extended to cover the whole state of Pennsylvania. And the group was kind of unique. and that most people involved were specialists. We had scientists and engineers and research people, and, oh, heck, I had former military intelligence people. I had police officers. I mean, it was amazing

the people I got involved. We all did this around our full-time jobs, but I had to set up that we could respond to cases 24 hours a day, and, you know, we were actually building a lot of our own research equipment because you couldn't buy a lot of equipment back in those days like Night Vision, and we were very, very active. And to our surprise, we were beginning to get referrals from the news media from the state police and different agencies out there. And it was very lucky that we were already established because 1973 rolls around, a massive UFO wave that goes on all year with hundreds of UFO reports. But then the sum of 73, we had the biggest Bigfoot outbreak that was ever recorded. It went on for weeks and months of the early 1974. And it was just an amazing

time to live through. Back in those days, there was a lot of news media coverage of it. They were covering it very heavily, and both the local and the national news media were covering some of our investigations, all the sightings going on Pennsylvania. But that is when we began to uncover some very intriguing aspects of Bigfoot that none of us ever even imagined. I'm curious. I really want to get into that. Can I ask you a quick question before we go on? Because I really want to get into this, and I know this is mainly why you're here tonight. Have you ever taken any abduction cases? Oh, alleged of the UFO abduction case?

Yeah. Any alleged abduction case from the 60s and the 70s, probably in the 80s. In more recent years, we rarely hear about them anymore, but we did look and do numerous reports. You know, the thing was, we are getting reports at all the time. We were having mountains of reports coming in all the time all year round, and I still get reports coming in constantly. Again, on jobs and families, and we could. only do so much. But yeah, we worked on a lot of alleged abduction cases. We can't say that, yes, people were taken aboard a spacecraft from another world, and they were being abducted by

aliens. Can't say that. But we can say that some very credible people had some very strange experiences, and they believed that there was something going. Many of these people, lives were disrupted by what was happening. And over the years, I mean, there's still, I could have been touching this person for over 45 years who had a missing time incident at the child. There was a huge search for this person. As they found this child right in an area where they had been searching. And that person from the time it happened has had multitudes of phenomena occurred throughout her life, but it wasn't just her, then it was her children, then her grandchildren. And then there's other cases like that we looked into as well. So it's something very

interesting. Can't say for sure again what was going on. None of us really know, but there was something happening there that affected a lot of people's lives and was very strange. Yeah, it is strange. And it's strange to hear, and I get these reports too, and I'm not really sure what to make of it. I used to go, well, you know, when people see UFOs and, let's say, Bigfoot, for example, you know, I would say, well, maybe it's two different phenomena that's going on. I don't know. But I've gotten more and more of those, and I'm really not sure what to make of it. Did your opinion of what? Did your opinion of what Bigfoot was back then changed to, let's say today, and what made it change? I knew about Bigfoot. I mean, I was investigating Bigfoot in Pennsylvania in late 1960.

Citing is going back, paper accounts from the 1800s. So whatever the phenomenon is, it always felt when I got involved, when unknown, old science had never been able, cases are unfolding. These strange things began to show up, and we do ideas. A couple of things that happened. In fact, I have a whole lecture I do just on this topic called strange aspects. Now, one of the things was we would get to some of these locations. There will be Trump here under different ground conditions, where it should have been more tracks. Even in fresh snow.

It didn't make any sense. There was no indication it could have been fabricated. That was very strange. Then we began to see a pattern. We would have a UFO sighting in a certain area. Within minutes or hours to days later, we would have a Bigfoot siting or vice versa. And then we had some of the most amazing, very well-documented cases

There's a Bigfoot UFO seen together at the same time and place. And I go into great detail in this, my Salon Invasion book. And they're available, by the way, on Amazon, too, not just on my website. But anyhow, they came in pretty early. It was up in the north of Pittsburgh. Two women are waiting for a friend to pick them up out in the country. They see the 7-8 feet on here about the white ones that often, but we do get those kind of reports. It's running across the road towards the woods, but in one of his hands, it has a glowing ball of light.

and a short time later this object comes across the sky and projects a beam of light down until the woods where the creature ran into. It began to get better and better. One of the most famous cases, and I mean, we could just talk for hours about this case, just a brief part of the case, 25th, 1973 up in Fayette County, outside of Uniontown, Pennsylvania. Fayette County, we'll probably talk about that a bit this evening. Fayette County, a lot of these areas along the Chestnut Ridge. The Chestnut Ridge continues to be one of the most active areas in the country year after year, even this year, with all kind of phenomena. So the Chestnut Ridge runs about 100 miles long from Westmore and Fett in Indiana County and southwest Pennsylvania down into near Preston County, West Virginia.

Fosightings, Crypton encounters, Bigfoot encounters, all kind of other phenomena along the ridge. and so October 25th, 73, who put in Uniontown Barracks, who just came back from investigating this multiple witness incident. And he called and said, you've got to get a team up here as soon as you can. There's a good chance of something still in the pasture. So what I found out was about 15 people in that community that evening,

they see this huge spherical object about as big as a barn, a bright red sphere, about 100 feet off the ground, slowly moving downward. people in the area watching this thing coming down. And, well, who were on the farm, his son was coming out to visit on that night. His son's riding down the farm road. He sees it.

He sees people watching this thing. He goes up to a home up on the hill to get a better view. And it looks like it's going to land on his dad's property. He and the two boys decide they're going to go see what this thing is. He stops at his dad's farm, grabs a 30-odd-six and a handful of ammunition. As they're riding down the farm road, the dogs are going crazy. they hear this high-pitch whining sound, and they have these baby-crying sounds. And they're getting louder and louder as they get closer to the pasture.

They finally go into the pasture, and they're standing there 50 feet away. This object is now on the ground or right above it. This thing now is a big white dome, like a half a sphere, about 100 feet or more in diameter, illuminating the area, making its high-pitch winding noise. And then their attention is drawn to this barbed wire fence, 75 feet away. One behind the other, walking slowly in their direction along the fence.

The one front's 8 feet tall, somewhere around there. The other behind is about 7 feet tall. Pretty much a typical big foot. Bipel, cover long, dark, matted hair. The arms are so long, almost down to the ground, no neck. Maybe whining, crying noises

and they have luminous green eyes. And the one kid is so scared he runs out of the field. And the other kids are yelling, shoot him, shoot him. Well, now, the fella didn't realize when he grabbed any ammunition, he had two tracers in it. So the hunters out there know you just get that luminous trail when you fire those tracers. First shot was a tracer, no effect. He fires a second tracer out as though to grab that tracer, makes this loud, whining, crying sound, and the object in the field vanishes.

It doesn't take off. It just disappears. So almost all the luminosity is gone, the sound stops, it gets darker. and the creatures turn around and walking back towards the woods along the barbed wire fence. The guy at that point shooting live ammo

with his 30-0-6 at the creatures, he's mainly aiming at that largest creature, and he said to me for years and years, he said, I'll never forget how that creature was glowing green eyes

and staring at me as a pumping live ammo into it with no effect on it whatsoever. Anyhow, again, the short part of the story is they called the state police. When a troop arrived, trooper goes up with the witness,

looking for evidence, And the trooper told me the area where the object was on the ground was soft luminescent glowing, about 100 feet or more in diameter. The farm animals wouldn't go into the area. He could have sound down within that glowing area. He could have read the newspaper from the glow coming off that luminous area. And then they both went back to the barracks, and a lot of very weird things happened throughout the evening when my team got there.

And just too long to get into. But others, but that one primarily that indicated to my team and myself, There was a lot more of the Bigfoot phenomena than any this could ever imagine. And then the reports got even stranger and stranger if you want to get into that. Yeah, I'd like to get into it. I'm curious, can you give a, I mean, you don't have to go into it if you don't want to, but can you give us a brief summary of the weird things that happened to you and your team? 1873, they would call the police if they were frightened about something.

So they would get the calls, and we would get the calls, and they would refer to calls just happening. And, you know, months, years later, somebody looked into it. The scene was administered hours. So we're documenting all this as it's happening. Incidents, and the more we began to look into these reports, more we began to see some very strange things that made no sense if we're dealing with an unknown-type animal.

And then it was the case that happened up in Fayette County, again, deep in the mountains up near Ohio, a pile, February 6, 1974. It was the case that as reluctant I am the only case, and I am aware of many of them throughout the country and around the world that other researchers have looked into the possibility that we may be dealing with something other than a normal flesh and blood animal, which is why there's no bodies.

For a lack of a better term, we may well be dealing with something is from another reality or another dimension. The case was the one among others that really pretty much showed that data to us. And this was, again, up near Ohio Pile, some of the listeners will remember the time period because we had a national trucker strike at the time. There was violence across the country. There was gas rationing. And because of the violence in Pennsylvania, the National Guard and the

state police were patrolling together. So when the call came into the state police barracks, both the National Guardsmen and the state police responded to the incident. I couldn't get up the next morning because there was no gas available in my area. But I was up there early next morning with my team. And what happened was this woman who lived in the mountains all her life, lived deep in the mountains in a cabin home. She knew animals very well, pretty much not afraid of anything, was a very good shot on TV that night as normal, and a ruckus on her front porch of her little cabin home. She had some pop cans out there, and someone was knocking the pop cans around. Well, a few weeks before, there was a pack of wild dogs coming through, so she figured we

That's probably those dogs again. So she grabbed her shotgun, and she thought, you know what, I'll just shoot it over her head and skirt her dogs away. So she grabs her shotgun, loads a chamber, walks over to the wall, turns on the switch for the outside porch, steps out on the porch. In front of her, there's no dogs, but here's this huge, hairy, bigfoot creature standing there with his arms straight up over its head. What if she do, she fires right into it with her shotgun. She said there's this bright burst of light, like a flash on a camera, and the creature physically disappears right in front of her. Her in-laws lived very close by about 100 feet away.

They heard the gunshot. They called her, that's what she was shooting at. She explained to him, walking up that dark road. He sees a figure running up the road, and then he said, as he got closer, he's surrounded by four or five hairy people with eyes like Coles of Fire, search shooting at him randomly, runs into the cabin, at the same time, there's this large object hovering over the woods, kind of gave the impression like a big Christmas ornament hovering over there at the same time. And the woman, you know, the many times they interviewed her, she never used the word Bigfoot. She said it looked like a great big hairy ape, among others, that again suggested a word dealing with something other than a flush and blood animal.

And these reports stresses, most UFO sightings have nothing to do with Bigfoot, most Bigfoot. Bigfoot sightings have nothing to do with UFOs. However, this is from all over the country and around the world to the 1970s. I've talked to many other researchers out there. Many of them are aware of the cases, and more of more you're hearing about this now in recent years. Back 30, 40 years ago, it was kept quiet because the researchers didn't want to be laughed at by their colleagues. And even the witnesses were extremely reluctant to talk about even the weird things they saw with Bigfoot. and there's something going on out there, and none of us have the answers.

I don't think anybody has the, I don't think the government has the answers. I think everybody's trying to figure it out. But there's a lot more of this phenomenon that anybody that's can imagine. And just in recent weeks and months again, we're having a number of Bigfoot sightings, UFO reports coming in, we're having some very strange things being reported. I just received several weeks ago if you got on my website, Stan Gordon.com, there's a still you can see from the video was sent to me. This was taking a North Huntington, Pennsylvania, which has a lot of reports of phenomena for years and years. But this is a family. It's so many of Vidaa they took

in January of this year. There had been a fresh early morning snow. They looked out their window, and they were surprised to see this long trail of about 15-inch-long footprints with about a four to five-foot stride between the tracks and a fresh snow, nothing else around. But what really startled them was there was no beginning to the yard, they went for a distance, and no more track, just like it disappeared, startled them. And that's something we've had reports of for years from many areas. It's another one of the phenomena which suggests that there's something more of the phenomena than any of us understand at this point. And that's one thing I've always appreciated about you, Stan, is you will take weird reports.

You will look into them seriously and treat the people with respect and seriously, look into what they saw, no matter how weird it is. I mean, let's face it, Bigfoot's weird enough, and then some of this other stuff that goes on. And the stuff that you're talking about with some of these stranger reports, everyone thinks it's kind of a new thing. And it's not. I mean, you were taking these reports before I was even born, some of these stranger reports, and we're still hearing about it today. So it's fascinating stuff. When we come back, I'd like to get your take on what the eye glow is, and also your take on the smell. Probably one of the most fascinating theories I've heard about the smell. When we come back, we'll be talking to Stan Gordon,

Investigator, author. We'll be back in a moment. And as we took a quick break, I want to thank Stan Gordon again for coming on. We'll get back to him in a moment. Please check out his website, Stan Gordon.com. I also want to thank one of our sponsors, Robin Hood. Robin Hood is an investing app that'll let you build and sell stocks, ETFS, options, and cryptos, all commission-free. And you know, I've been trying to, over the last couple years, I've wanted to get involved in the stock market. I'm a little nervous about it because it seems like a risk and I don't really know what I'm doing. Robin Hood will walk you through that.

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And when I say eye glow, I don't mean eyes shine. I mean like the eyes lighting up like Christmas lights. And I've had many of those reports. What is your take on that? Amazing as it just happened this past one. And in other cases, you do have this very brule luminosity. Orange, red, bright green, sometimes yellow. But it's amazing.

And we just had this incident. This was last weekend. This is in the greater Pittsburgh area down on the Mon Valley, which has had history for years and years of Bigfoot's like. The weekend, it was a rainy night, and this fellow's riding down this very dark, and his low beams to the left side of the road ahead of him, and he goes a little slower, not sure what this is,

and he puts his high beams on, and as he's moving closer, this creature walks out right in the middle of the road, five feet from his car, stands in the road, and he said, this thing looked eye to eye right at me. And he said, the eyes, he said, I have never been so frightened in my life. After he had the experience, and he said, I'm just shaking on the phone, talking to you right now. This guy didn't really believe in these stories and these reports.

And he said, it was just incredible. He said these eyes were beat red, like flashlight beams. That's how bright they were. And there's no lighting on this road at all. And, I mean, our website, hopefully very soon, we're waiting for an artist to go down and do a sketch with him. And I was at the scene the next day. We searched the area where everything happened.

Unfortunately, during the night it was covered with leaves. Couldn't find any tracks. We found some interesting things overworld standing by the side of the road, but we can't say it was connected directly to the incident possibly. But it's one of the most detailed Bigfoot reports I've heard for years from years in years. And he gave us extremely detailed account of the physical description of this creature. because it was so close to him. And so it's a very interesting story.

But some of these other reports were getting even at recent weeks, again, up along the Cheslet Ridge, up on the Dairy side, on the Westmore County side, which is very, very active, historically, would be ports. We had an incident, I'm trying to think this has been, well, in mid-September. And this fellow's riding down the road, it was a rainy night, and he said, Suddenly in front of him in his headlights, this thing seems to peer out of nowhere. He said, I look to this thing. It's around seven feet tall. It has a definite human-like form. Misty looking. There's no other fog going to kind of misty around. And he said it had a very large, massive chest, and it was kind of stooped over like it had bad posture. And he said, the weirdest thing was I couldn't see his legs real well, but it looked like it was gliding or floating above the road

into the field and it disappeared. And we get other reports like that as well. And then miles away up on top of the ridge, so it's not far from where that other sighting took place with another person. A beautiful morning. And this woman is taken a walk up near the tree line, and she hears this noise like something loud,

hitting against the tree. 20 feet away, there's this big in front of her, and she said, I kept looking at this thing. Then I realized it looks like it's almost like trying to camouflage itself that it's actually hugging the tree. It's about seven foot tall with shaggy dark hair, and the arms are so long, it's completely wrapped around the tree trunk. It had his cheeks of its face against the tree looking directly at her.

And she said the eyes were much larger than the human, but they were dark black. And she said she was petrified. She ran to another tree about 10 feet away and hid behind it. got her composure back because she had a camera phone with her. She was going to run back and try to get a picture, which she did. She runs back, it's gone. Which she said, I understand them 10 feet away. This thing was really big, and I never heard it leave.

So, again, those are very, and those are just some of the recent reports we're getting. You know, some of the weirder stuff, the more paranormal stuff, and you might agree or disagree with me, seems to happen more with Dogman. It does happen with Sasquatch. do get those reports. But one thing I've noticed just through my collecting of reports is generally you'll get a lot of the weird stuff when people have these on their property. When a hunter comes across one or a hiker comes across one, they seem to be more like an unknown primate out there running around like a wild animal. However, the more people around these things, they

start to notice very odd things, like balls of light or their eyes lighting up. And just what you just mentioned, I've taken many reports like that from people who've had these on their property. Generally, they have a heart, it's like pulling teeth for them to talk about, you know, what you're talking about with it being translucent or kind of vanishing like the predator. But I have had a lot of those reports. Have you noticed that? Do you notice it on people's property or is it one time encounters you're seeing this weird, weird stuff, more weird than Bigfoot is?

And then all of us, Warren County, where one afternoon people saw an object. fall from the sky to the woods, and soon after they began to hear screams and cries and the phenomenon is so strange it protects itself. It's so bizarre, unless you're a part of it, it's very hard to believe these things are going on. And, you know, I don't think I mention this to you, but in all the years I've been doing this, this year is 59 years of research. I have never seen a UFO Bigfoot myself. I've seen a lot of evidence. Yeah, it's strange. You know, you were talking about the flash of light. And have you heard of the Stardust Ranch?

Which one? ranch, the guy that was out there and he was killing them with a samurai sword, killing aliens. I've heard something about it. I'm not real familiar, was it? Well, what's bizarre is he mentions him disappearing in a ball of light. He does claim, or in a flash of light, he does claim to have evidence of body parts and blood from these things. The part that is hard for me to wrap my head around when it comes to Sasquatch is most of the time it seems like a physical being. Whatever Sasquatch is. It seems to be very physical, seems to want to eat, seems to want to, it leaves tracks, sometimes it leaves hair. I've had reports on the show of people shooting them

and hurting these things. And then you get the other side of it to where they just seem to vanish. And I don't want to use the term superpowers, but they seem to have some weird, paranormal, I guess superpowers the best word. And it's so bizarre because there's two sides. to the coin. Sometimes you'll get where they're very physical, and then sometimes you'll get some of the weird stuff. You know, the mind speak, the glowing red eyes, the glowing orange eyes, or

just glowing eyes in general, and these things seem to vanish. What's your take on that? That they seem to be physical and they seem not to be? One of the aspects of it that I noticed years ago, sometimes when you have a localized outbreak at the same time, complicated phenomena. It's so

beyond our understanding. And, you know, I A similar has been seen throughout the country and around the world for years and years, and still no bodies. That doesn't make any sense that this is some type of an unknown primate. After so many years, it just doesn't make any sense. And I think there's a lot more we have to learn about the phenomenon until we have the answers. Yeah, you bring up a good point, Dan. I mean, they are seen all over the world.

I mean, really, every country has a name for them. Australia, they call them the Yawi. We call it Sasquatch, Bigfoot. Russia, they call it the Alma. China, I believe it's a urine. I mean, all these countries are basically seeing, everyone in these countries is basically seeing the same thing. Yet there's not, it hasn't come out. No governments come forward and said, hey, yeah, these things are real.

It's very bizarre. It's very bizarre. I have an interest in what I call the mini UFOs. They're not your large. And the more recent years are getting a lot of rectangular reports range anywhere from a few inches to about a foot in diameter. Sometimes the solid times are just a bright. sometimes you can see through them. They're very intriguing because they'll come very close to homes and cars through open windows, and they'll fly around and go back out.

We've had reports of them going right through the walls and homes and going right through the beds of vehicles. But in more recent years, throughout the country and here in Pennsylvania, Bigfoot researchers who are investigating Bigfoot cases and are scouting errors with a lot of history of Bigfoot, they're not seeing Bigfoot, but they're seeing these strange orbs of light. coming very close to them. Yeah, I actually filmed one. I know people used to talk about it, and I was like, well, I've never seen one. And I actually filmed one on Night Vision, and it was bizarre. It was very bizarre. It was relatively close to us, and it was very bizarre looking. Made no noise. Strangest color I've ever seen. Strangest way it had an ambient light about it. It wasn't like a

bright, bright light. It's just a real bizarre light. Do you think it's all connected? Do you think the alien phenomenon, the lights, Sasquatch, Dogman, and some of the other weird cryptics that you've looked into. Do you think it's all connected? Represent. Small percentage could be we're dealing, again, under certain conditions that come into our physical reality, but they don't always. They can leave physical evidence, and then they're gone. They come and they go. Yeah, and you have an interesting take on the smell with Sasquatch, and I was hoping you'd tell your theory on it.

And I found it fascinating when I heard you say this, because there's really no right. I'm a reason behind the smell. You know, sometimes Bigfoot researchers will say, well, apes give off this B-O smell. Most people I've talked to said it's like a sulfur. Sometimes you hear it in ghost and paranormal. You hear people smelling sulfur. But it's just real odd, odd smell. And then they see the creature shortly after smelling the smell.

Would you mind, Sharon, your theory on the smell? We had to come down to interview two women. He said these two women were very, very shook up. They were very credible. The only came to his office because they heard a rumor that the local police had shot and killed the creature. And they wanted to see it because they wanted to see if that was the same thing they had encountered. And I remember the case for August night, and this woman sleeping in her room, and she began to wake up.

She found uncovered like somebody was looking at her. She turned over and looked, and only a few feet away, bent down. The window had been open. and it pulled back so tall, I mean, the window is nine feet off the ground. It was bent down, looking directly at her. She was her with its cheeks and its eyes and everything. And it backed, I mean, she was just very shook up. It backed up and went around the other side of the house where her daughter was sleeping.

She soon started screaming by having the biggest shadow she had ever seen by her window. And all of a sudden this terrible smell began to encompass the area. And they heard, because it was in the news around the area, people, It's when they heard a rumor, the police had shot the creature, so they called the officer called me down to interview them because they were very, very credible. When I got there three days later, that smell, you could still smell it in a house like something had been dead for a long time. And now has something to do with that process of this phenomenon, whatever it is, when these things come into our physical reality. We know a lot about it. We see patterns to it. One or two people telling you these stories, but I've been doing this for a long time.

and I've interviewed, like I said, hundreds of people from widespread areas who don't know each other. 99% of the people I interview are anonymous because they don't want any publicity. They have nothing of the gain. Who calls me? People who all walks of life. Men, women, children, hunters, police officers, I mean, all kind of credible people. And I always say the best witnesses are people who wouldn't believe these things would exist until they had their own personal encounter. Just like the fellow I interviewed over the weekend.

He didn't believe in the stuff. used to kind of laugh as a relative of his and did believe in it. And like you said, I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I was never so frightened in my life. Yeah, do you sometimes see correlations between two separate phenomena? For example, the smell. And then sometimes in, I know you've looked into ghost and other things, has that ever come up before? Has someone ever talked to you about that smell?

And then you think back and go, oh, it sounds like the same thing. I mean, I'm phenomenal. Once again, I'm in a pension right now, but there's something happening. Everybody can't be wrong. Yeah, and it seems like it's happening more. Do you notice that there's more reports coming out now, Stan, as opposed to when you got into this? Again, I get reports all year round every year. This year has been a little more active in the 40s and the 50s and the 60s of sometimes a metallic ground, sometimes on the ground.

We have had instances. We had physical trace. We have labs examined material. We're seeing more and more of those kind of reports coming in. But the quality of some of these Bigfoot sightings the last few years where, I mean, these reports are very close range. I mean, there's something happening out there. I definitely agree. It's during that 73, 74, when there was a lot of just weird, weird things going on, and this could be anything.

Is there a couple encounters that really stick out to you, some of the just, that was just bizarre? We're of 73 up in Fayette County again. A fellow was running his hunting dogs that evening. He had a lot of private figure in the dark way ahead of him. He yells at a person. He thought it was a person. He covered an ape-like creature. He grabs his pistol and starts shooting this thing.

And he says he's shooting at this thing. He's been a hundred for years. He knew he hit it. He said, went in front of him. He could still hear it running away, but he couldn't stand. I mean, that's just the example of some of the reports that we're getting. and you know you've brought up about footprints before and this is another thing I deal with in my one lecture for us to understand or believe there could be one primate running around because we've all seen those typical five-toe tracks from throughout the country and around the world

their hoaxes on occasion we don't get that many but there's ways to tell and then we get the lot of your consistent five-toe footprints throughout many parts of the country and around the world in Pacific Northwest and other areas of a country where you have a lot of history of bigfoot not only do you have the five-toe have the five-toe toe tracks, you've got the three-toe tracks, and even sometimes four-toe tracks. And I'd make castings of both over the years. Also, a menagerie of other footprints that are very, very intriguing and very strange. They're completely different. And yet similar tracks have shown up throughout the country and other parts of the world. I mean, I have tracks here to look similar in the tracks were found in China. Some of the Yaui tracks over there look like what we've got over here. And some of the tracks are just very, very unusual. No evidence.

of a hoax, the people were a very credible report of the incidents. How can you have so many unknown primates running around? It makes no sense. We've got to be dealing with something that's a part of the same stimulus. We just don't understand what we're dealing with, but I can tell you, for when I've seen,

there's a energy connection to the phenomena. Something I noticed years ago, many close-range UFO sightings, and many encounters with Cryptids, so, encounters with Bigfoot, the giant thunderbirds to Black Panthers, all kinds of these weird entity reports we get, they commonly occur in the vicinity of high energy sources. So you've got sightings around like gas wells and gas lines and power plants and high-tension

power lines or railroad tracks and water reservoirs and on and on and on. And I would bet you if investigators look at how many sightings they've had, they look at close by the area, they'll find very commonly energy sources close by. Yeah, and there's a lot of strange reports. I've talked to hunters, or not hunters, Bigfoot researchers, this is off the air because they won't, they'll never say it publicly. But several I've talked to said there's something going on. You know, sometimes their cameras don't work. Sometimes game cams fail.

They'll set out food and have these game cams surrounded where the food's at. And the food will be gone. And then there's nothing on the game cams, almost like they failed for a minute or two. And I don't really know what to make of that. It will come down and pace cars and hover over areas, and there will be localized power for when this object could be color came back on. Well, it's not that well known, but we also have similar incidents with bigs where a big flip area and came back to normal.

I had one case, I remember, in fact, I wrote about it in my stylish encounters book where people were riding down the road the one evening, they had their headlights on, here's right on the edge of the chappeneges, very long arms and legs. They have to swerve around the miss hitting it. When they were right next to it, all of a sudden the car was almost slowed to nothing. And the pastors are yelling, get out of here, get out of you, hit the gas. And the drivers, the more this person hits the gas, the slower the car was going. So as it slowly moving away from the creature, as it got further away, all the power came back on.

Very, very bizarre phenomenon we're dealing with. It is bizarre, and I've noticed, like, with Dogman reports in particular, I'll get a lot of weird, you know, like you talked about the mist. I've heard that many times in several dogman reports. And the one thing I've noticed about the dogman, when people, like, for instance, I've had several of these on the show where they shoot at them and they're on the property and they don't kill them, but the guy that took the shot, all of a sudden now that entity, and I don't know what else to call it besides an entity, that entity has interest now in that person and is going to torment that person. It'll come around to that person's window and just kind of screw with that one person that took a shot.

And I've heard many encounters like that, especially with dog man, to where it feels more paranormal. It feels more like how a poltergeist would pick on you or torment you. The dogman seems to do the same thing. It seems to really enjoy terrorizing you. Okay, yep. Back in 73 went a leaf light that late that afternoon, and they were the grave. and the woman began to hear this baby crying sound.

I thought it was a baby from a house up on the hill, and then realized that her little baby was beginning to cry about 30 feet away. She looks over and hears his big foot standing on the edge of the woods, slowly beginning to move towards the child it was making. She comes on the car and takes off and goes several miles away to her father's farm. Within the hour, the same or similar creatures, the animals were frightened and upset. One of the prison took a shot at it, they called the state police.

incidents where in some cases it seems as though these creatures seem to follow people over a distance. And what do you make of that? Because that doesn't sound, I mean, you and I agree, I mean, that doesn't sound like a normal wildlife. A cougar is not going to follow you over a long distance. A bear's not going to follow you over a long distance. Do you feel like sometimes, and you don't have to answer this if you don't want to, but I know you've looked into a lot of ghost encounters, for example, do you sometimes feel like it's all one and the same? We're all kind of like, you almost see a pattern between, like, in poltergeist encounters, where they want to torment people, they want to terrorize people, they will follow you home.

People go off to these ghost hunts or whatever, come home, and all of a sudden that they brought someone home with them or something home with them. And sometimes I see correlations between the two. Maybe I'm reading too much into it. Ghost and the hauntings, I go and that evening, some of the people, people decided they're going on this, and some of them had temperature sensors, and we're watching these little orbs floating around, and I was watching through the monitor, so it wasn't dust and dirt and taping him. And I remember within minutes, I believe he died and lost all their power.

We're discharged. Extremely interesting. And that's something we're seeing more and more. I knew about this long ago, but in recent years, for example, I've had incidents where people have attempted to take pictures with both cryptos and UFOs, either with a cell phone cameras or fully charged or camera would malfunction or was completely discharged its power. And that's something that's been showing up more and more, this electrical mechanism. And yes, we do get game camera pictures in on occasion, but I've heard from many people the same thing that sometimes the camera malfunctioned properly when these things are around, but they're still able to get the food.

So once again, that's another aspect that's very intriguing. It is very intriguing. I wanted to ask you, what's the strangest cryptid you've ever looked into? And I wish I had a report in front of me. If people go to my website, stand by a lot of these reports, and some of the ones we're talking about tonight are on my website, and this particular one was a very intriguing one because it involved a police officer on patrol last year.

And I won't say exactly where it happened, but he was on patrol, and he came across something that has baffled him since the night it happened. And he's riding down this road that he patrolled commonly. He sees this ball of light on the ground. He's realized, well, gee, there's no artificial lighting around here. This vehicle, he says suddenly there's a ball of light that's on the ground. It's not a head of a creature tall and of a skeletal thin. and he said apparently the thing had been lying on its belly on the ground with his head facing towards the road

it stood up facing the road the glowing head illuminated the upper section of the body and he said he's watching this thing and the creature turns to the right the shoulders and he said this thing turned and he said with incredible speed it ran off and it was gone and he could see it swing its long arms they said it moved faster anything he's ever seen in his life you said it It was there and then it was gone. The lower section of the body well, but are shaped like a ball, a ball of white, plastic kind of egg shape. The light emitted from it was dull white,

but illuminated like the shoulders and the top of the chest and part of the arms. He could not see the hands. He said the chest looked to be about 18 inches across, but he said the waist appeared to be small, but the arms were abnormally long. The long limbs looked skeletal with no muscle mass. The skin tone appeared to be kind of a dull grayish blue. he couldn't see the facial features.

And as a creature ran off, he pulled a patrol car up, shined his spotlight, looked around, couldn't see any evidence. Interestingly, over the next few months, I believe we had four or five other somewhat similar reports, except for the glowing head, but similar of something tall and skeletal thin that's been seen around this area and around the Pittsburgh area. So that's one that sticks out.

And there's, I can think, of many other ones as well. Yeah, I got pictures I need to send you. There's a lady who had Sasquatch on her property, and she sent me these pictures. And what you described is basically what she got pictures of. They look like tall, kind of big round, egg-shipped heads. There's really no detail to it, but it looks like a person standing. And she got one on a roof. It looks like it's looking down into a window.

And then she also got one on her back porch. But there's really no detail. it just, it looks like, I don't know how to describe it, like a weird humanoid shape. And it's just a real ambient line around this thing. And I didn't have any answers for her. I was like, I've never seen such a thing. So I have to send him to you, Stan. Take a look at him and tell me what you think.

Yeah, it's been, I can't think of the other little town up there, but it's up there in Butler County. And he's riding down and his headlight catches something off to the fences from the ground tall. He's looking at it from the side. I never looked at him. and he said, when I talked to him, he said, you know, I've heard people talking about Bigfoot. He said, this thing was not a Bigfoot. He said, this thing had light leathery skin throughout. It was kind of swept back like an aerodynamic helmet.

The eyes were swept back. Its arms had claws for hands. The legs were very muscular, and I believe short, and they kind of moved backwards. And he said it had wings cut across the road and went off until the woods. And he got a very good look at this thing. It walked right in front of a big sign. The sign was over 18. foot tall and this thing was a little taller. A number of other people report to the local butler

BORU group up there, a research group, seeing the same thing. Two studies of this thing in the last year up in that area again. So I've been getting the last few years are even stranger than what we've talked about. Yeah, I've gotten a lot of strange one. Have you ever heard of the rake? Have you ever taking any reports of the rake? Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. There's a lot of odd ones. I know we're coming up against our time here. I wanted to ask you one last question. Um, when I look at this, I noticed that some of the tactics they use to shut people up who've seen UFOs or, well, yeah, mainly UFOs. They seem to use the same tactics when it comes to Bigfoot. Let's say if someone has real evidence. They seem to use the same tactics they do with UFOs. Do you think there's

a cover-up and why do you think there's a cover-up if you do? Alleged men in black and a mysterious men. And they were more common for the time that you could put the cartridge in and get a picture got instantly and he ripped it out of his hands and destroyed it. And whoever that guy was, we don't know. I remember that was a very, very involved in an investigation. A long time, the government has an interest both U.S. and there's something going on there with both phenomena and they're trying to figure out what it is. Yeah, and the one you'd mention, that happened at a trailer park, didn't it? Wasn't there a lady that reported it?

I remember seeing this, and he was on Unsolved Mysteries. And the Bigfoot was doing something with the electrical box or something. and that guy showed up. I didn't realize that was you. Yeah, that was out at this one, but this was again out in Dairy Township along the base of the chestnut ridge or a lot of reports going to hear something I scratch him, crying sounds from outside, and the power is going on off on a train call from 911 to report up to that area. The police went us up in Dairy Township. They found the footprint. There we found that the main route there as well.

And again, there's your energy connection for whatever reason. and I truly believe there's an energy connection to all these phenomena we're dealing with. Yeah, there could be. There definitely could be. I'll have to have you back, Stan. I've really enjoyed talking to you. And for the audience, definitely check out Stangordon.com. Pick up his book, Silent Invasion, the Pennsylvania UFO Bigfoot Case Book. You can get on Stan Gordon. Info. You can also get on Amazon.

And also check out his other book, Astonishing Encounters. Stan, thank you again for coming on. Well, thanks for having me. It was a lot of fun this evening. And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance, please check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com. You can become a member, get additional shows.

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