Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:493 Best of Sasquatch Chronicles II

Episode Date: November 25, 2018

I hope everyone is enjoying their holiday weekend. Join me tonight with Best of Sasquatch Chronicles Part Two. As we take a look at five more shows. See you tonight.   https://sasquatchchronicles.com

Black thing go from left to right, and I thought, I'm going to die out here and no one's ever going to know. I couldn't believe what my eyeballs was showing me. I'll never forget how evil the eyes were. It was horrible. I mean, I've never seen nothing that evil. It ran towards me at a rate that I can't even explain, turned and stared at me. And this look of, I just want to kill you. I want to say it was human, but it wasn't.

He was yelling at me to grab a gun, grab a gun. I was like, for what? He said, just grab a gun. And there's footprints all the way to the door of my house. It had went inside my garage all the way to the door. 911, what are you reporting? Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about six foot, nine, I don't know.

Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right at him. Uh-oh. You're listening to Sasquod. Chronicles. Check us out online at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. If you've had an encounter, email me. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show plan for you tonight as we look back at the best of Sasquatch Chronicles. Thank you so much for being here on a holiday weekend. I really appreciate you taking the time to listen.

And I got to tell you, it was so hard to narrow down 10 episodes that were my favorites. I had about 50 set aside, and I was kind of struggling which ones to pick. And I didn't want to do like a six-hour podcast because no one's going to listen to a six-hour podcast. So I tried to pick out the ones that really stood out to me. There was many more. Trust me, there was many, many more. But I really hope you enjoy the show tonight. If you've had an encounter, shoot me an email.

My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance, check out saskatch chronicles.com, you can become a member, get additional shows. I wanted to put something out for you guys. It's the holidays. Not everyone has great holidays. You know, sometimes people don't have families to go to, and it's a lonely time of year. So, and even if you have a family to go to, thanks so much for hanging out with me tonight. My first show I want to play for you is episode 110. And I spoke to James, and this happened in Arkansas, I believe. and this encounter took place a long time ago, like 40 years ago,

and it was kind of the first time he had shared this encounter when he was a young man. Then one of the creatures actually stepped out and attacked him. He pulled out his 22, shot it in the head. Take a listen. All right. It was Friday after Thanksgiving, 1997. It was just tradition that I go to the lake, lake area that we had a cabinet for deer season. and it started Thanksgiving Day in Oklahoma.

And so I'd go on Friday, and it was Friday. I'd driven down, gone to the cabin, went out, and there was a power line easement that I generally hunted, you know, and it was on the side of, well, what we call a mountain. It's not really a mountain. It's just a ridge, a high ridge. And I went out. I parked the truck down by the road on the end of this easement, and we'd catch deer crossing over, and it started feeding on acorns.

And so I set up in the corner because the easement runs north and south, and then the corner that I would hunt, it would cut back west. And so I was setting right in the corner so I could look west, and then I could look north and downhill. And I got out there, I don't know, 11 noon. I got out kind of late. And I sat and just, you know, waited in the corner. you know, there was some odd noises that I'd heard, but I just kind of checked them all off, you know,

just weird whistles, odd-sounding birds that I'd heard throughout the day, and didn't really think nothing of it. And finally, it was getting to be, oh, 4 o'clock or so, and I was just tired of sitting there, I didn't think of them this evening. So I got up and started walking back to the truck, and I can see the truck. It's about, probably parked to a couple hundred yards from where I left the truck. And I was walking back, and I probably got about halfway to the truck. And suddenly I see kind of at a 45-degree angle across, I'm walking the south side of the power line easement, kind of up against the trees. and on the south side of me, or north side of me, at about a 45 degree angle, I see some movement. And then I see something moving.

And then the next thing I know, a rock hit me dead center of the chest, about the size of a baseball. And this thing came in with a lot of force. And right just about the second that it hit me, this thing, this, screams. There's no roar just a loud scream. Extremely loud. And of course, I look, and I can see it, it's 20

or 30 yards into the trees, and it's running towards me, and it gets to the edge of the trees, kind of throws out its right arm and hooks the tree and starts running back into the woods, but it's still screaming.

And then I'm shaking so bad. I end up try take a step forward I drop my rifle I trip over my rifle I break at a broken scope off of it I finally get it together enough that I get it up and I'm shaking

and uh man I'm shaking now again talking about it and I'm trying to get to the truck it's all I can do to go you know it's like my body's half paralyzed as I get to my truck I lay the rifle in the scope in the back

I didn't really lay it and I just kind of chuffed it and I always left my keys in the bed of my truck because one time I lost him while I was hunting that fell out of my pocket and I had to walk back out

and I didn't leave and find them but I left them I left them in the back of the truck well I got my keys I'm fumbling through the door trying to get them unlocked I dropped the keys and I kind of

half-ass fall down trying to get the keys and as I get the keys The next thing I know, the truck is moving. And I look up and I'm kind of down on one knee on my side, and this thing comes up over the side of the truck. The one hand on the driver's side rail of the bed, and, you know, his body's just up on the bed of the truck.

He's screaming at me. Well, I always carried a little 22 Magnum, an H&R. and the shoulder holster that I used to dispatch, if I ever needed it to, you know, dispatch a deer that was made me wounded, you know, it was just simple as easy headshot. Well, I was able to get it pulled out. I got it pulled out and come around and I fired it and shot right above its left eye on the left side of the face.

And as I did, it lets out a screen. and then off of the truck, blazing through the woods, screaming. It sounds like Buffalo. There are elephants that, you know, just tromping, just screaming through the forest. And I was able to, at that point, still real shaking, get in the truck, get it started, and down the hill, I go. I'm headed down the hill.

And there's a creek at the bottom of the road. And right as I get on the bridge of the cruise of the creek. the truck, there was a big bang, the truck rocks, I just kind of keep going and I look back in the rearview mirror and there was a boulder about the size of a soccer ball laying in the middle of the road that wasn't there when I crossed the bridge. Well, I was actually kind of laying out on the bridge. I wouldn't have been able to drive over it with my truck. I probably would have bottomed out or it would hit the bottom of the truck. It was that side. So I know it wasn't there before I went across the bridge.

And then as I was on the bridge, you know, I'm assuming that it threw this rock and hit the truck and I didn't see where the rock came from. I went home. I didn't sleep. It was about a half mile of the cabin. And the next day, my dad came out. And then I didn't hunt. In fact, I got up the next morning. and just packed up and went back to town. I told my dad it wasn't feeling well and I wasn't going on hot. You know, and you're the first person I've ever told the whole thing to.

I've told people that I've seen them and just kind of get that weird look, but you know what I'm saying? Yeah, no, I know exactly what you mean. When it first threw the rock at you and you saw it coming out of the brush, what did you think it was? I mean, did you get a good, I know you got a good look at it when you should. shot it, and we can talk about that here in a second, but when you... I had no idea. This was so far out of the realm of what was in my head. I had no idea, you know.

It was kind of like wild man. Holy crap, you know. I don't, I have, there was no, there was no idea of what it was I was looking at or seeing. I just knew that this, this ain't normal, you know, this is just, I wasn't thinking Bigfoot or Sasquatch. I'd seen the film, the Gimlin film when I was a kid, but I always thought there was one in the world. It was just one out in California that they filmed, you know.

I never, in my wildest dreams, would have thought something like this. And I had no idea for the longest time what it was that I saw, and I think that that's why I really never had to hold anybody what I had seen, you know. and it was a long time before I kind of put the two and two together. And, you know, it wasn't the nine, ten foot tall monster. It was about seven foot. It had the big body. Well, it had a way larger body than an average human.

I'm six to two, two 40, and he was a lot bigger than me. But he wasn't, though, anything that I'd ever heard described before, you know. And so, Wes, I had no idea of what it was I would see. This was the wildest thing I'd ever seen in my life, you know. My heart's racing now. Yeah. Just thinking about it, you know. Yeah, you always relive it.

What time of day was this? It was around 4.4.30 in the afternoon. It wasn't quite sunset yet. You know, it was, you know, late afternoon. Like I said, I had this feeling I wasn't going to see any. Everything was just so dead quiet, you know, except for, you know, some birds that I'd hear every once in a while that just kind of sounded odd. But I just had a feeling that I wouldn't, you know, I'm not seeing deer. And just so I was leaving, you know, this is just going home, you know, just kind of giving up.

But, yeah, I was in the afternoon, late afternoon. And can you describe for people listening what you saw? Can you describe as best you can? I realize to you this probably felt like a lifetime, but it was probably realistically seconds that went by. But can you describe what you saw and describe the face and describe basically what did you see? Well, it had a face a lot. It looked like a lot like a chimpanzee.

But the eyes, they didn't have the brown eyes. It had kind of a black eye, not kind of. There were black eyes, you know. and it had that protruded jaw and lip, you know, kind of stuck out there a little bit. And it had a, the eyebrow was real protruded. You know, it came out quite a bit with that big, hooked, layered nose, you know. I think they call it like a hooded nose. Extremely ugly.

About the ugliest thing I'd ever seen in my life and had long hair on the head and hanging down on the shoulders and back, you know. But then it was hair. It wasn't fur. It was long, you know, flowing hair. But, yeah, the face looked a lot, just a lot like a chimpanzee,

but the body looked more like a man, you know. And I knew it was a male. You know, there was no doubt in that. You could just see the jump, you know, kind of swinging as it was moving. And that just really, It just blew my mind, you know. There was one detail that has always stuck out with me, and I don't know why.

The inside of its nostrils were real pink. And I've often thought, you know, why did I notice that, you know, more than any of the other facial features, you know, that pink nose, the inside of the nose, you know, real wide mouth. black tongue, black in her mouth, white, white teeth. The teeth were, you know, Hollywood movie stars would probably pay for these teeth, you know. They were very, very clean, like teeth, and it just, that's a description of the face. How big would you say the mouth was?

It was probably five, six inches wide, real wide, you know. You could put a softball in this thing in the mouth, and he could probably just do it. you know, still having room to move it around. It's just a huge amount. The proportions and the eyes were real big. The mouth was real big. The nose was actually kind of small, kind of blared out, hooded, you know, kind of hooked up. But it wasn't real big.

The nose wasn't real big on the face. Your description of the inner nose, that would make sense, especially with, you know, most primates when they get pissed, their nose flurrer. I mean, even we do it, you'll see guys and gals when they're real piss or nose kind of flares open. Flares out, right? Yeah, I never thought of that, you know, of the nose flaring open. I just know that it was, you know, I could see, you know, right into it. You know, our nose was kind of down. You can see right in, you know, this thing's nose, you know, and it was real pink.

and that just always stuck in my head is why I remember that as a major detail, I don't know. Did it do any other vocalizations besides screaming at you? No, it's just a scream. It screamed at me two times and then it screamed at me

when I first saw it and then it screamed at me again at the truck and then it screamed as it left the truck and that wasn't like the other. or two, I'm pissed off. That was one, like, oh, shit, scream, you know, getting out of there. You know, because I know I contacted with it. I know I hit it, but when I fired, but I think it glanced off the side of the head.

And the eyebrow right there, it looks so thick. It wouldn't have penetrated anyway, you know, even if I'd probably hit him dead center between the eyes. I don't think that 22 magnet would go through there. Because, I mean, it's massive. That eyebrow protrusion is just, it probably comes out inch and a half to two inches, if not more, you know. So when you hit it, you don't think you actually penetrated the skull? No, no, I don't think it did.

I think maybe it's right over the outside of the left eye and maybe cut it, you know, cut him open right there. But I think what did it was the fact of the pistol is what scared it, that and the firing it bright in its face. But I think if I hadn't had that, I'd have probably been in a lot more trouble. I really do. I don't know what its intentions were, but I don't think that it would have came out. I would have came out as well as I did. Yeah, the way it came at you was a little bit more than just a bluff charge.

it's interesting the moment you drop the rifle in the back of the truck, it gets the guts to come out and face you. Yeah, yeah, that's when it came back out was after I put the rifle down and had dropped the keys. You know, I didn't have anything at my hands, you know, and that's when it came across the flaring the right of the easement. That's when it came across, you know, to the truck. Looking back, did you get the impression that it was alone? You know, for the longest time I have, you know, I never, ever thought that there was another one with it.

But, you know, I don't know. It could have been another one that threw the rock at the top. But I don't know. I never had a feeling that there was more than one there, but there most certainly could have been. You know, I just, I don't know. And again, that was episode 110. Hunter Sheets of Sasquatch with James. still one of my favorites.

You know, I was thinking about episode 249. You guys hear it in the intro all the time where the guy says it had this look of, I just want to kill you. And that was Steve from episode 249 where this thing ran out. He was on his boat and actually ran out to the water when he was fishing.

This happened in Florida. Take a listen. Okay, so I guess it's been about, well, Sunday it'll be four weeks now, but I had an upcoming Redfish tournament. When I go out to scout for schools of fish, I usually take my kayak so my motor doesn't scare them, basically. So this particular morning I got up about 4 a.m., got on the boat ramp and dropped my kayak in the water, had to paddle for about 45 minutes. On the way out there, typically, you know, we'll see schools of bait fish or just different things. You can hear different things, cicadas, birds, whatever.

whatever. This morning, it was just, it was, as I stated, it was, it was church quiet. I mean, it was just, it was weird. As I got to my spot, or I was coming up into my spot, I got to go behind two of these little spoil islands. Out of nowhere, this huge splash behind me occurred. And it literally scared the heck out of me. And we have fish down here called mullet bait fish.

jump around and stuff like that, but it was a lot bigger. However, we do have manatees, and the manatees are plentiful in this area, and I thought, well, maybe I, you know, spooked a manatee or something. It was just, the splash just came out of nowhere. It was pitch black. There's no lights from the city. There's really nothing. There's two radio towers at NASA that kind of light up a little bit of the water, but that's

about it. I didn't think much of it after that. You're going to have to excuse me here because I'm getting that chill again. You're good. Take your time. I continue to paddle on, and it just, like I said, everything just seemed different, quiet. I felt like I was being watched for, you know, that feeling where your hair stands up on the back of your back, and you get the chills or what have you. and I have heard about these men in black.

Like I said, I was fishing right by NASA property, where it's clearly marked every 50 or so feet with channel markers stating that you cannot enter NASA property, blah, blah, blah. And I thought, well, maybe I crossed over it by mistake. And my buddy had once told me about these guys called Men in Black that come out of nowhere. Once you cross over that property, especially after 9-11, to see what the heck you're up to.

But nobody's really heard about that since the space shuttle program has gone away. So anyway, I realized that I was at least a mile away. Didn't really pay much more mind to it at that moment and just continued about my business. Well, the fish that I fish for, the redfish, they tend to school up and they run up and down the banks looking for shrimp and crustaceans and such. So I get behind the island and I'm right against the shoreline, probably 20 feet off. I hooked the fish. Everything was good. Light was coming up.

Completely forgot about what I, you know, had felt earlier about the splash and such. And once I got into this fish, I got to the side of the boat and as I was taking the spoon out of its mouth, this smell. and when I say smell, it was the most horrifying, horrific, disgusting, there's no words that can describe this smell. You know, for three months now, it's been 100 plus degrees here with the humidity or heat index or what have you. And I'm thinking, okay, well, it's got to be a dead animal, something rotting. I released my fish, and I'm like, man, I can't stick around here. I mean, I was dry heaving. It was that bad.

excuse me again. Boy, this is tough. As I got that smell, I decided I was just going to get the heck out of there. And I probably took three or four paddle strokes, and I jumped a bunch of pigs. I say I jumped them, meaning my paddle hit the water, and these pigs started running wild hogs, making this commotion that, I, you know, just, excuse me, once again, they, you know, running down the bank, the shoreline, the water, just trying to get away from me is what I thought. And as soon as they took off running, this scream came from nowhere. And when I say scream, once again, I don't know how to describe it in words.

it was the most horrific I want to say we have Florida Panthers and I've actually heard one snarl or whatever you call it but it was almost like a snarl like that but with a deep growl that shook my insides

to the point that I was I mean shaking sick and these trees these palm fronds and these trees were just shaking like crazy and when I say I'm 20 feet off the shoreline And this was maybe not even 10 feet, if 10 feet, on the shore. These trees and everything was just shaking like crazy.

I mean, to. And I know the sun's starting to come up at this point. Yeah, it was just daylight. And I could see him shaking. And I was just sitting there in this kayak with, like I said, I don't know if I pissed myself. I don't know I had to pick my job. and what this scream or growl or whatever it was was so intense that I honestly I have no recollection of what happened really after that moment other than I'm sitting there staring

at these tree shaking and I remember seeing this palm phone and like I said this happened you know four weeks ago Sunday so I'm trying to you know still gather all my thoughts about this because trust me, I don't want to believe this actually happened to me, but this face came from behind this poem fawn and sat there and stared at me for probably 30 seconds. It just continued. I mean, the look on its face, I can't tell you. And then with the shaking of the trees and everything else, out of nowhere, this thing charged or ran towards me or the way. water or I don't know if there may have been a pig in between us. I'm pretty sure I would have seen a wild hog, you know, from 20 feet away.

But it ran towards me at a rate that I can't even explain. It startled me so much. I literally, I have a sit-on-top kayak with a high seat, a raised seat, 11-inch seat. That I, I mean, it stunned me where I fell off the back of my kayak. and I laid in the water because I honestly had no idea what to do. This thing stopped probably three feet in the water, which would have taken it, I would say maybe 15 feet from me, if that. And I raised my paddle like I was talking to you earlier,

going through survival school in the Coast Guard and all that. I mean, you have that fight or flight, and typically you fight, But in this case, I couldn't. I was frozen with fear. The only thing I could think of was basically, you know, holding my paddle up. I remember guys telling me, I'm not a hunter or nothing like that, but they say if you ever come across the bear, make yourself look as big as possible. I held my paddle up in the air and I'm screaming at this thing, go away, bear, go away.

And it stopped. It just completely stopped right there in front of me, stared at me for a second, and then walked away, or turned around and walked back towards the woods, as it walked away, it turned and stared at me again, and this look of, I just want to kill you. But it didn't. It, you know, I want to say it was human, but it wasn't. It had, you know, all the characteristics, but all the emotions of being human. and but it wasn't.

Yeah, no, I've heard that before. Can you describe to the audience what you saw in details? Yeah, I can't actually. Like I said, I could, I probably stared at this thing total of at least a minute. I mean, it seemed forever, but it was probably, I'm guessing, seven foot tall. I'm six foot. I weigh 200 pounds. This thing was probably, I would say, three, three, three.

350. I've never had to judge something like this, but just, I mean, my best educated guess would be that. It's, it was completely hairy for, I would say, almost a blackish brown. The face, that's the one thing I, I won't forget. Now, like I said, I didn't believe about any of this stuff. I searched online at, or after this happened. And, um, I, I saw, you know, all these other pictures and stuff, but it didn't have canine teeth. It had a huge, huge mouth, but it was just like normal teeth, but this wide mouth. Its nose looked like a man's nose, flat, but the one thing that got me was like the forehead and the chin were almost at the same, or the furthest out point.

They would have been even, I guess, is what I'm trying to say. the eyes there was no eye shine it was it their eyes were black there was no uh eye uh eye white um it was just black the skin was like i had just the best way i can say it is my brother had shot a deer up in northern wisconsin and he sent down the hide for me to put in my bar and it was like the tanned leather side, or the tan side of the hide, it was like a leather, but it was darkish, gray. The face from like the cheekbones, which matched a man's cheekbones, just a little bit wider, had hair, long hair, like a biker's beard, I guess you would say. The forehead had a lot of wrinkles, like if you were making a pissed off face or something,

you crinkle up your forehead. It was bald on top of its head, and the sides of it, you know, from his ear length down with real long hair, it almost flowed into almost like what you can call a mane on a lion or something like that. But just his gestures, his facial expressions, its body movements, whatever, it was human.

I mean, it did everything. I mean, it methodically thought about things. It, it, I don't know how it's, describe it. It was human, but it wasn't human. It was, it's absolutely insane. What did you think the same was? I mean, as you're looking at it, what's going through your mind? And it's charging you, you're in the water, and it's now come out to the water. But what's going through your mind at this point? I don't know if there was anything other than survival at that point. I'm probably 100% sure I can say I wasn't thinking of what the hell this is.

I'm thinking about how am I going to survive at that moment. Now that I've had three weeks to literally ponder this and have an anxiety filled last three weeks to almost to the point where I can't function, I mean, it's crazy. But, you know, like I said, I've done some research, and I've often wondered about NASA property. I know back in the, I don't know if it was the 50s or the 60s. Like I said, I don't follow any of this stuff. But I know they launched some chimpanzees up in space. or whatever.

And I'm thinking, well, maybe it's just a monkey that got it loose from NASA, you know, because I'm so close to NASA property.

But then, like I said, once I saw it, it wasn't a monkey. It wasn't, it wasn't human, but it wasn't a primate. It wasn't,

it was something different. I don't understand. I don't have the understanding, I guess, of what an actual big foot is or what a Sasquatch is is or if there's a difference or what a skunk ape is.

This was so real, so human-like, but yet the strength and the power that it showed to take a, whatever, 10-foot palm tree and shake it like it's nothing. I can't answer that question, honestly. I now believe that there's something a lot bigger, better than a human being that lives here in Florida. That's the best answer I can give to your question.

So there's more to this story. Steve decides to go back a month later. He's good friends with a police officer that patrols that area, grew up with him, told this guy about his encounter. The guy said, let's go out there. Let's take a look around. And this is episode 254. This was an update.

I talked to a buddy of mine, Susan Law Enforcement, and he actually agreed to go out there with me. He was pretty excited about it. Unknown to me, He had a belief in Bigfoot or Sasquatch. And when I shared my experience, it was kind of funny because I called him up. I was still pretty beside myself. I didn't know how to handle any of this stuff.

So I called him up, trusted in him, and he came over. And we sat down. I have a bar built out back behind my house, and we went out there where it was private. I asked him, I said, do you believe in Bigfoot? and he laughed for a second and he he said what do you mean bigfoot and i said bigfoot you know and he he goes why would you ask such a question i said well um you know i haven't been right in the last couple of weeks and he says yeah i know that you're quiet and you don't call me anymore and we don't hang out and i said well i said to be honest with you i saw him bigfoot and his eyes got

pretty big and he uh he said well tell me about it and he could tell that i was i got really emotional got you know started crying and and uh said man i just got to tell somebody and he did think i'm crazy that's cool i said i just got to get it off my chest so i told him my experience and what happened and as i was telling him i could see his jaw just continued to drop further and further down. And he told me flat out that, you know, in his line of work, that in the last six months, in the general area where I was, there's been three reports of the same thing. His immediate supervisor, I should go back, my buddy does law enforcement on the water,

so he's always on the boat. but his immediate supervisor is on land. And he told him, you know, over the last six months, there's been three other accounts of people calling in and saying that they've seen that or the other. His buddy or his supervisor responded to all of the calls. He, I guess, once again, I've got to go back a little bit further. Sorry about that.

But he was also telling me that they're, you know, in these sightings that only one, person who's higher up in law enforcement are allowed to really investigate these things. He told me that his boss or his supervisor responded to the calls. He had to make the phone call to the upper supervisor, I guess he would say, who immediately responded and everybody had to leave except for that immediate supervisor or the upper supervisor. He said that he doesn't really know the stories behind them, but all he could tell me was that they were always instructed to say it was a black bear.

If there was a smell, it was a roadkill, or it was a dead animal, dead pig. So he's always been curious about it, I guess. He also had stated to me that he, through the Great Vine at work, heard that there is a, what they call a book of secrets, that they write all these incidents down. Normally, they have to do a full report. But if it's anything that's related to this, it just goes into the, it just goes into one book and one person has the responsibility of that book where nobody else can go into it or what have you.

So, you know, once we decided that night that he wanted to go back with me, I agreed there was just this feeling that I had to return. I mean, I needed to know 100% if this was true. And I agreed. So on Friday night, last Friday night, we packed the up our boat and we were going to go spend Friday and Saturday night out there and come home on Sunday. When we were heading out on the boat, every instinct I had was a turnaround. I think actually I turned the boat around twice and he'd grab the steering wheel and he'd turn it back.

We got to the spot. It was probably about three or four hours before dark on last Friday night. And I was scared senseless. I'm not going to lie. I was shaking. I was physically. sick. But he kept assuring me that, you know, we had plenty of guns. He's trained for this. You know, we're good. So we get to, we beached the boat and we get walking up into the woods to find a place to camp.

And we find a decent little area. And I just had this overwhelming feeling once again that there was just, you know, something watching me. And I'm thinking, okay, my mind's just playing tricks on me. I saw this. I'm scared. don't want to be here, but I have to be here. So we get to setting up the tent, start a fire.

We're just basically sitting there talking. I'm trying to explain more of the story to him. And he told me that he talked to a mutual friend of ours who is a Native American. I don't know. I believe he's Seminole Indian, but, you know, many generations passed. But he shared my experience, and this guy knew. about it, knew about this creature that lives in this section or this area of the swamp or the woods. And he said that back in his culture, that his people would walk several miles around

this swamp so they would not have to go through it. I mean, that was, to hear that was really crazy, you know, to go back so many generations. Then he also said that his people always said that And I'm going to try to quote it the way it was. If you ever see this creature, it will be with your soul for life. Now, I don't know, you know, what the hell that meant, but it scares the hell off me, to be honest with you. Yeah, I don't blame you. Yeah, so he's telling me this. And, you know, we're just sitting there.

We got a nice little fire going, and we decided that, you know, it was time to go to bed. We were going to hike around the next day. So we got the guns, you know, sitting back behind the tent, and he was showing me how to use. I've never had a machine gun. I think it's an AR or something. He's showing me how to use it in case I need to and all this. And it was good. And so we get in the tent, and he falls right to sleep, and I'm trying to get to sleep.

And, you know, things are going. I mean, I can hear every creature in the world walking by my tent. You know, it's just my mind, once again, going crazy on me. So I said, well, I'm not going to be able to sit in this tent and not be able to see what's going on outside. So I go sit up by the fire and I'm just reliving everything. And like I said, sick to my stomach, just shaking uncontrollably. I start hearing some like footsteps. I'm like freaking out.

And then I hear sticks break and it was so close that, you know, I yell for him. And he's already up. He heard it too. and he's coming up at the tent with a gun. So he's like, all right, he says, you know, grab a gun, and we're pointing in the woods. He's got, like, a laser scope that has this, like a laser beam or whatever. And you can see it hitting the trees,

and he's telling me to gently back up towards the water where we come from. So we're backing up, and four or five hogs came out. And I'm like, oh, my God, okay, it's just, it's picked. You know, we're good. So, you know, that was pretty much the, of Friday night, Saturday morning, I guess I fell asleep for a little while, we got up on Saturday. He wanted to go down to where I saw it. I know I told you if I ever had the courage to go back, I'd try to measure the best I could off that stump.

So, you know, we did that. And it was between six and a half and seven foot tall. We didn't see any footprints, but it had been a month, you know, since that had happened. So I didn't know what to expect. But we did see, you know, broken branches. We did see crushed down, palmettoes, but nothing that would be, you know, it could be easily described, you know, what the pigs go through there, what have you. So, you know, that's what we did all day on Saturday. Saturday night, it was probably two hours before dark.

We decided we're just going to fish for a little bit, get our mind off of everything. Everything was calm, no issues whatsoever. And we're fishing. back to the woods, just down by, you know, there's a bar I beach to boat. And he all of a sudden said, get your gun, get ready. And, I mean, it was out of the blue. I didn't hear anything. I didn't see anything.

He just, he turned, he stared, and said, get your gun and get it ready. And I said, okay. I said, did you see something? He's like, no. I mean, just matter of fact, no. but he wouldn't stop staring at this one section of the woods. And I started slowly backing off as well as him. And he's, I guess it was probably, I don't know, five minutes.

He said, let's go. And we walked back. And every two seconds, it was like he was turning around, like there was something behind him. So we get back to where we were camping. And he was a completely different person. I mean, this guy is a complete cut up. He's constantly cracking jokes, always trying to make everybody happy. He did not speak a word.

And I kept trying to get him, you know, get caught of him, and he just wouldn't speak. So we sat by the fire, and he, you could just see the, like, the life left his face. She was just different. And we sat there for the next six or seven hours, and nothing was spoke, and he just kept looking in the woods. Daylight started coming up. He said, let's get the hell out of here, and we're never coming back. And I kept, I asked him again, I said, you know, WTF, did you see something?

And he goes, no. He goes, let's just go. So we packed up the tent, put out the fire, grabbed our guns, and we started walking back to the boat. As we were walking back, in between where we were, were camping and where we were fishing is like this six foot tall grass. I just happened to catch it out of the corner of my eye. There was like three teepee like structures made in this grass where like the grass was pulled up into a pyramid and there was a hole dug up underneath of it almost. And when we walked by it to the opposite side where we had to go, I got the smell again, that

horrifying, disgusting smell. It wasn't quite as bad as my experience was, but you could definitely, I knew it was the same smell. I, you know, I don't, I'll call him Bill for the sake of it. I said, Bill, do you see that? And he said, yes. I said, this was not here yesterday. He goes, no, it was not.

I said, do you smell that smell? He said, yes. I said, that smell wasn't here. And he goes, no, it was not. Get on the boat. So I did what I was told, you know, and I'm not sticking around. So, you know, we haul ass out of there. And we get home and I dropped him off at home and then, you know, came back to my place.

I tried to call him several times. Sunday afternoon he didn't answer. I called his wife and she said that he's sleeping. So Monday, I get up due to my daily routine and go to work. And he called me. and he said that he had talked to his immediate supervisor and explained what we had done, explained my story, and his immediate supervisor told him that, I'm trying to protect him here, basically that he should have never done that.

He should not use his law enforcement credentials to do such a thing because they do not exist. What we saw or what I saw was a barrack, and that he has to now do a full report on him for doing this, knowing he wasn't supposed to, basically. So he gets reprimanded. I'm not sure exactly what happened. I don't think anything, you know, suspension or anything like that. I know he got a good talking to.

This upper supervisor, who's the only one who's allowed to investigate these sightings, paid him a visit and wanted to know word for word, everything that I spoke to him. And he had no choice, so he told my story. And he also told them that we went back out there. They, I guess, took a full statement and sent him home for the day. I know, the only thing I know, two things I know for sure, that they asked him if he saw it, he said no.

And they asked him if he believes that there's a creature. out there and he said yes. So come Tuesday, he came by my place when I got home from work and he said, I need to talk to you. And I said, okay. He said, when we were standing there fishing, when I heard what I heard, I turned around and it was staring at me, probably 15 feet. He said, I didn't want you to freak out because I figured you would run.

I didn't want you to run. He said, but I don't know if I believed you when you described it. He goes, I didn't know what to think. He said, but whatever you described, whatever the hell that is, was standing in the woods watching us. Of course, that got me going, and I asked him what he saw. He described it almost identical to what I remember seeing. The only thing he said that I don't remember,

was the hair had dreadlocks. It was like he said it was all matted and dreadlocked, and it didn't make any kind of facial expressions other than it stared. I said, okay, well, thank you for not telling me, because I really didn't want to see it again. I wanted to believe that I was, you know, making this shit up or something, but he freaked out and he's still not doing very well. So, you know, dealing with him, I get contacted by a law enforcement officer who's an upper supervisor.

And I have to tell my story. He said that I was trespassing on private lands, which it's not. But he said that if I would tell my story that the trespassing charge and the multiple fines that I could possibly get will be removed and everything will be forgiven. forgotten. So I once again pulled out. I have fishing charts and I have it had the land area and I said well this is public land. I was not trespassing.

We did register with the park service on the island that we stayed on. So I will tell you my story and you can tell me I'm crazy and we'll part ways. So I explained everything to him. He wrote down, I mean details that I would never expect somebody

to write down every word that I said to the point where he would stop me so he could catch up with writing. We finished the story. He said, well, from everything that you described to me, it was the bear standing up on a kind legs trying to get something out of the tree. And I said, well, what the hell does a bear eat out of an oak tree or out of a palmetto tree? And since when does a bear move a palm fawn that he's staring behind? And since when does a bear have a human face that has a human face that has a little bit of a tree? has facial expressions.

He says, the law enforcement officer looked at me and he said, none of that happened. And he said, I can make sure that none of that happened. And we shook hands and we parted ways. Sure seemed to be a lot of bears out there causing a lot of trouble. I don't know if the government might want to look into that. A lot of bears out there causing all kinds of trouble. The encounter made me think of episode 413 with Daryl and his cousin when his cousin was actually charged by one of these sayings.

And it takes a strange turn to as well. It's called Grassman Gone Wild, and this is Darrell from Ohio. It was October 6. Nice bright sunny day. We was doing some bass fishing, me and my cousin. I just looked at my phone, and it was 10 till 5, and a rock landed right in front of the boat. And I yelled at my cousin thinking he made the noise, and he was yelling at me thinking, I did it. We didn't know it was a rock at the time. And as we're talking out of the corner

my eye, I see another rock coming. It's probably about the size of a bowling ball. And I didn't never put two and two together, never thinking it was anything other than a person. And it hit the water, and I looked where I seen it coming from and never seen anything. And my cousin seen a flash go behind a tree. And he thought it was a black man. and he said, take me to shore right now. We're going to teach him a lesson. So we're in a little 12-foot John boat, flat-bottom John boat. We motor up to the island.

And before I even get the motor shut off or anything, he's already on the bank and picked up a handful of rocks. And as soon as I step out of the boat, he throws them. He's like right over there behind that tree. and as soon as he threw them rocks, the most ungodly, loudest roar I've ever heard in my life. I don't even know scream, what it was. It just belted out, and it went right through me.

If I had long hair, I could picture my hair blowing back in the wind that was so loud. Just then, it stepped out. And it was behind a tree that wasn't, but maybe three feet in. circumference, pretty good size tree. And I couldn't believe that I couldn't see it because it wasn't brushy or anything like that. It was just there and I couldn't see it. And it was a bigger a piece of plywood. And we looked at each other when it screamed.

When it screamed and it stepped out was probably two or three seconds. And we just looked at each other and didn't even say nothing. We just was like going to leave. and then it stepped out and I was frozen in terror. I mean, I was just petrified. And

it just stood there for a second looking real mean at us and it reached its right arm out and wrapped it around the tree and it was probably three or four feet away from the tree and it was still able to reach its arm all the way around the tree.

And it was straight out. and I'm scared of death. I peed all over myself at that time, literally. And just then, in a blink of an eye, it charged us, and I just, I was bracing for the impact, and I just knew it was going to rip our heads off, and it made a hard left and was gone. I'm stunned and in shock and don't know,

what's up and I'm still like just frozen in terror. I can't move. I can't scream. I can't do nothing. And I turn around and my cousin's in the water. And he's like moaning and everything. And I I didn't know what I didn't even know it it hit him. But it went by it pushed him, hit him something. It couldn't have like hit him hard as big as that thing was. It broke four of his ribs. And it punctured his lung. And, and I, and I, and I, had no idea that it did it. And he's trying to catch his breath and everything. And I'm like, finally getting my craft together a little bit and try to help him out of the water.

And he's gurgling and can't breathe. And I drag him up to the boat. And I'm just terrified. And I'm standing there. Like, I get his arms, both his arms and his head's in the boat. It's up on my dry land. And only the ass end of it's. sticking in the water.

And then a log come flying, hit him right to chin. A pretty good size log. And it hit a tree first before it hitting. And it sounded like a gun going off. It hit that tree so hard. And it glanced off of it and just hit him in the chin and cut it real good. It gave him 16 stitches or 17 stitches or staples. and if it wouldn't hit that tree first,

it would have took his head off. It came with a lot of Velaski, and it knocked him out, and I'm scared of death, and I'm thinking he's dead. I had a 357 magnum on me, and he had a 45 on him, and I grabbed his pistol.

I get in the water behind the boat. I don't know if I was, was just trying to get away from it. Or if my train was kicking in and I was just putting some cover between me and it. Yeah. I was in the military, so I have had some extensive training with firearms. And at the thought of shooting, it never crossed my mind. Why I even took his gun from him, I don't know what I did.

And my head's on a swivel. I'm looking all around and I can't see this thing. I don't know what's going on anything. I'm hollering and screaming for my cousin. I finally walk up to him a little bit, and he's coming around, and blood's everywhere. I mean, everywhere. I thought he was dead. But you know how it is when you're all wet and you get blood.

It just, you know, it exaggerates it. Yeah. It was just a big old gash on his chin, but blood was everywhere. Hang on a second. No, you're doing fine, man. I know it's hard for you to recount it. Can you describe for the audience what you saw? You know, a lot of people haven't seen these things.

And so in your own words, can you tell us what you guys actually ran into? A monster. A monster. I don't know exactly how tall it was. If it was an inch, it was eight to nine foot tall. um it was three four foot wide it was closer to four foot no without exaggerating it reminded me of a piece of plywood it was just so huge and it's its eyes were were big and black uh i hated to look at its face man it was the ugliest thing i've ever seen in my life honestly but not just ugly but scary i mean just scary and there was nothing

kind about this animal here. There was no kindness in it. I've heard other shows and other stories, and this was not a creature that wanted to have coffee with me or anything. It wanted to kill us. And I don't know why. I don't know what we did to make it mad. We was being quiet, flipping up towards the bank bass fishing.

And evidently it didn't like us being there. Would you say it looked more human-like? Would you say it looked more like a primate, like a non-human primate? There was nothing human about this thing. The only human thing about it was the way it stood. It almost moved supernaturally. By no means, do I think it was supernatural? But it was 40 yards away from us the first time it come out.

out and what it charged us. And it was on us so fast that it was, you can't even explain how fast it moved. I can't explain to you how fast it was there. And it was just incredible, but it was so graceful also for as big as it was. It's amazing how agile and quick it was for the size.

But it had a nose like a human. I don't know what they call it. A hooded nose, is it? Yeah. Is that right? Yeah, that's right.

We have hooded noses. Right. I guess. But it was, it reminded me of a boxer that's just been hitting the nose too many times. It was war out. And it was pink.

bright pink on the inside of its nose. I was drawn to that for some reason. And its mouth, wow. Its mouth was huge. I mean, huge. It wouldn't have a problem biting your arm off. And I mean that literally. And just broad and thick and as black as could be,

it was almost like it absorbed the sunlight, if that makes any sense. Yeah, it does. It's hard to describe it like that. But as far as looks, it wasn't human. It was animalistic. It had a human shape to it. Its arms were longer from the elbow to the hand than humans would be.

they weren't really like hanging down to its knees, but they were longer than a human's arms would be as far as like going to your waist. They hung down probably mid-thigh or something. And it's hand, when it reached around a tree, it reached around like we would. But its thumb seemed like it was in a different position than ours. It didn't really seem like it was not quite like down like a monkeys would be, but it just didn't seem like it was in the same place as ours.

It was just ugly. I'm going on and on. You ask what it looked like. No, no, you're doing fine. It had big black eyes and they were really far apart. It kind of looked like it had sunglasses on from a distance. It didn't have a lot of hair on its face. Its face was not hairy, but everywhere else was hair.

It had a mop on its head. Its head looked well-groomed, but the rest of it was matted and leaves and, you know, debris in it. Its skin was a darker kind of ashy, dark ash color, charcoal. Big, wide mouth, if I've said that. Yeah, kind of like Pac-Man. Man, it's, yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah.

Its teeth were block like ours. I didn't see, I didn't see any, you know, major canines or fangs or things or anything. It had human-like teeth, but big, big block teeth. For somebody that has never seen this, it's unbelievable. And I can understand why people don't believe you. And it's, I told my wife about it. not too long ago, and I was trying to explain it to her. I think she thinks I'm a nut, but I got a little excited when I was telling her,

and I was standing on a chair and holding my hand up, you know, like to the ceiling. I'm like, imagine that it's as high as this ceiling, you know, and as big as thick as that sliding glass door right there, you know. It's unbelievable to picture that, but that's the truth. and just ugly, ugly, ugly, and such great camouflage. After it, after it made that hard left, when it Charters made that hard left, it disappeared real quick. You know, it didn't vanish.

Like, poof, it was gone. It just blended in so well with the surroundings that I didn't know where it went. It was perfectly camouflaged. and when it threw that log, I still didn't know where it was. And then there it was 20 feet away from us when it stepped back out again for the second time. It didn't leave. Yeah, I'm curious about that. And you're right, Daryl.

I mean, you wouldn't think something that big could actually move the way these things move. But I tell people all the time, you know, you run across one of these things, and you think 100 feet is a good distance. but in a blink of an eye and can be on top of you. And they just, they move like you, well, you nailed it earlier when you said it's very, almost supernatural.

It doesn't seem like they should be able to move the way they move. But you go down and you get your cousin, and then it steps out again. What happens next? I'm hollering at him to get, you know, I'm like, just get the back of the boat. Let's get going, let's go. And he's, he's a brilliant.

hurt bad and I didn't you know I didn't understand that at the time I didn't know that he was hurt as bad as he was internally uh and I couldn't figure out why he couldn't move like he was because he got hitting a chin you know and I'm screaming at him to hurry up and do this getting a boat come on you know we're screaming to hollering and a cussing and it just starts looking at us and then it's swaying back and forth, when I first, I never heard any of these shows up until just several months ago. I'm not, I don't use the Internet very much at all or anything. So I was never up on none of this, but I've listened to a thousand shows since. It was swaying back and forth.

But to me, at the time, it looked like it was like trying to look around a tree, a different tree, like something was in its way, but nothing was in its way. And I didn't understand at the time what it was doing. And then it started clicking. It's its mouth. And I think it was doing its teeth. But then I thought it was doing it with its tongue. I really not sure exactly what it was doing.

It was like making a clicking noise with its mouth. and then I don't know I just thought he's dead I just froze again when it stepped back out and I seen it again I just froze I was absolutely terrified

and I couldn't move I couldn't scream I couldn't do nothing again I was useless and my cousin's hollering I mean he's trying to do the best he can and he's I mean he was like hollering at it

Get the hell out of here. Son of a little bitch out. And he's telling me, blow its head off, shoot it. Yeah. And that thought never even entered my mind. I never once raised either gun. And I didn't know what to do, and I just started praying. And out loud, I prayed, and I rebuked it in the name of Jesus,

and then took a step out, like, towards us, and then it turned around. and then for a split second I was like relief and then it turned back to look at us again and when it did it did like everybody says now that I've heard the shows but it was different to me at the time because it turned at its waist it didn't turn its head it just turned its whole body and looked at us and I was I just knew I was dead I just knew it was going to turn around and it was so fast that it was going to be honest. And if I'd had to crap, I'd have crap my pants. And then it just took a jump from a standing position and was 20 feet further away.

I mean, it literally cleared 20 feet in a single leap. I'm not exaggerating. Now, I might be under-exaggerating. It wasn't like it got a run-a-go or anything. It just jumped. and it was 20 feet further away, and then it took off on all fours, and was gone. I mean, gone. I never seen something move so fast in my life, and I could keep my eye on it for quite a distance.

I was on an island, and it's woody, but it's not a lot of underbrush, and I could see it running for a long time. And, I mean, it covered three, four hundred yards in just a matter of seconds, literally. it was like a racehorse. It was very comfortable on all fours, but it kind of looked awkward because its head was straight up, if you know what I mean. It didn't have a neck.

It was just that classic big foot thing that you hear all the time, you know, its head was just sitting on its body. But its head was like straight up, and it wasn't like knuckle running like a gorilla or nothing. It was down on all fours like a, like a cat. And that's what it reminded me of was like a cat.

It was so graceful. And when it ran and quick, and that jump, I mean, it could have jumped on us from where it was. It could have just leaped and been on us. It was so impressive. Now it's impressive at the time.

It was so horrifying. Yeah, I can imagine. I wanted to ask you, Now that you've had time to stop and really think about this, do you think it was a bluff charge that was an accidental contact, or do you think it intentionally tried to hit one of you guys? I think it intentionally tried to hit him.

He threw rocks at it. He's the one that threw rock. It never touched me. It seemed like it was fixated on him, and he got out of the boat hollering and screaming, and he was pissed. He was mad. He thought some...

he thought a black guy was out there throwing rocks at him. And I'm like, what in the heck would some guy be out here throwing rocks at us? And when he got out of the boat, he picked up a handful of rocks. And as soon as I stepped off the boat, he threw them rocks at that tree. And then it immediately screamed. And in a couple seconds, that's when it stepped out. We had enough time after it screamed to look at each other. And we were just like dumbfounded.

and get the app out of here and then it stepped out. And then that's, I mean, I just, I lost all control of myself. And I've been in some very stressful situations in the service. I was with the second Ranger battalion. I trained under high stress, complete admissions, under high stress. I was totally useless. Literally, that's when I peed my pants, everything.

Yeah, which is understandable. I mean, I've had guys that were special forces. I've had guys that were, you know, high up in the military running in these things. And you'll hear a lot of them say that. They'll say, you know, I've been shot at. You know, I've been in a war zone, and it did not compare to this. This was 10 times that type of fear. This was nothing.

This was 100 times more than that. I've been in the same situation, and this was nothing compared to that. I'm shaking right now, talking to you about this. I'm trying to keep my composure the best I can to talk to you, but it's hard to do right now. I'm fixing to lose it right now. No, I understand. Just talking about it. It gets easier with time.

I can tell you that. The more we talk about it, it does get easier with time. At that moment, what did you think you guys just ran into? A monster. A monster. A monster. I didn't know. I had no clue.

None. I've hunted literally all my life since I was five years old. I used to be my dad's bird dog and beat on the brush piles. And, you know, he's carrying me on his shoulders. I got my first gun when I was seven. and still got that gun as a matter of fact. That's besides a point, but I've been in the woods hunting, fishing all my life, and nothing, nothing ever did I see or hear anything like this?

I had no clue. It was a monster. You know, I didn't think, hey, there's a saskatch, because it didn't look nothing like the Bigfoot I ever seen on, you know, that Patterson film. It didn't look nothing like that. So there definitely a lot of them. And it wasn't wearing underwear.

It was definitely a big male. It didn't have any other britches on. Oh, so you did see the private parts of the creature. Oh, yeah. And so what? It was a male. And you know what? When it got all excited, when it was swaying back and forth the second time, it had an erection.

Which actually makes sense, you know, with a lot of primates, for whatever reason. I had two brothers, and it chased one of the brothers, and he said it had an erection. and was peeing all over the places it was chasing him. So I think that's a normal. I thought he just thought I was that handsome. Damn. You had to ruin it for me. Yeah, no, I hear you.

Even the damn big foot thinks I'm good-looking. And so what happens? I'm glad I can joke about it now, man, because I'll tell you what, it's, you know what? You know what? You know, Darrell, honestly, you got to be able to laugh at it and joke a little bit about it because if you don't, you'll go insane. When you have an encounter like this, you replay it in your head constantly.

You're constantly replaying it in your head and trying to make sense of it. And the fact that matter is there's no making sense of it. And so it ends up driving you nuts. So it's good to have a sense of humor about it, even though I wouldn't trade places with you guys and be in that situation, especially having it charge you. Before we go on to what happened next, did you notice any smell or anything when it actually came? Not at all. None. And so you're helping your cousin up, and you guys are trying to get back to the boat.

It had taken off. What happens next? After it took off, we took off. We didn't waste any time getting out of there. And all I had was a flip phone, and we couldn't get any service where we was, and I was trying to call everybody I could. And all we had was electric motor, and we was way far from. from the boat ramp.

So it probably took us 45 minutes or so to get back to the boat ramp. And about halfway there, I finally got some service. And I called the non-emergency number. I didn't call 911, because I didn't really know what to say. And I just told them that we got attacked at where we was,

and that my cousin was injured real bad and we needed an ambulance. And they're questioned me and trying to figure out, you know, I'm going, I'm kind of, you know, out of control on the phone, if you know what I mean. I was still pretty much scared and excited. And I just hung up. I talked to them, told them where we was, what we needed, what boat ramp we was at, and then I just got tired of answering questions.

I hung up. And I'm trying to talk to my cousin, and he's spitting up blood and stuff. And I know he's really hurt bad. And when we finally got back, it was going on dark. And there was a policeman, a park ranger, and a game warden there. And we start to tell him what's going on. And there's nobody even attending to him. They're just like more interested in questioning us. almost like we was suspects instead of, you know, the victim. They, when we started talking and telling them all this, you know, Park Ranger and took me aside a little bit, and the game warden was talking to my cousin.

And they were just basically, oh, yeah, yeah, what was you guys drinking? Was it a boating accident or what really happened? and I'm trying to explain to the guy, you know, and the one guy's like, oh, it was a bear. I was like, a bear. I was like, you really think we got attacked by a bear, and I'm not being nice about it, you know, I'm excited. And I was like, then why doesn't he have claw marks all over it?

Why isn't his shirt ripped? What's, you know, I was like it wasn't a freaking bear, man. It was a monster. And the guy kept insistent it was a bear. and the one cop pulled me aside, the only cop that was there, pulled me aside, and he's like, look, he's like, just calm down a little bit.

He's like, he's like, I understand. He's like, I believe you. And I'm like, no, you don't. You know, I was like, you're just tending to me. I was like, this is really what happened. He's like, no, I believe you. And so I got mad,

and about 20 different cars showed up by then, And I just took my cousin and helped him in the truck, and I took him to the hospital. The ambulance, there was no ambulance there or nothing yet. And I took him to the hospital. And that gay morden, that cop, and a sheriff come to the hospital. And they wouldn't let us go in together. They separated us and was questioned in me. And they were tending to him.

And I can hear him yell. and screaming, telling him what happened. And he wasn't taking no for an answer. He was, you know, telling them, you know, BS, you know, F you, this is what happened. The cop was there and told me, he took me aside after probably about an hour or so of arguing with everybody that about what was going on. He took me aside and told me. He's like, look, he's like, I don't.

believe you, I told you I did. He's like, I seen one myself. He's like, it was a few years ago. I was hunting. This is what happened. Boom. I believe you. He's like, just, just cooperate and talk. And he's like, the bear thing. He explained to me what was going on. He's like, look, he's like, we can't put on there that you got attacked by no damn monster. He's the one to call it the Bigfoot. Then when he said that, it kind of like, clicked. That's when it really hit me that that's what that thing was. I left. I got out there after about another half hour or so. And that cop came to my house the next day and talked to me about it and told me about his encounter and he gave me the phone number to get a hold of the other guy I talked, spoke with prior to this. Yeah. Lange other show. Yeah, Lance from

the, it's Cripted Brothers, right? Criptid brothers, yeah. Yeah, I've talked to, yeah, Lance, great guy. I've talked to Lance a couple times, a very good guy. Good guy. If it wasn't for him, I'd have went nuts. I really would. Yeah.

He was a godsend. That man will be my friend for the rest of my life. Good, good, good guy. And so I know you went on the show, you talked about it. And so what kind of happened after this whole incident? Tell it. What happens next? The next day at the hospital, those two Slep Rock showed up that everybody talks about on your show now and other shows, I guess, too.

The biker dude and the other guy, they spoke with me and my cousin and basically told us that, you know, BS, you was attacked by Baron, that's that. And leave it alone. That's basically what it comes down to. About an hour after arguing with them, that's what it comes down to. And my cousin wouldn't even talk to me for a long time. I don't know what they said to him or did or whatever,

but he wouldn't even communicate with me on the phone, anything. They took his phone, my phone. and wanted to know who all we told us to and everything, you know, all the rigmarrow that goes with it. And we was both being defiant to them. You know, we had no idea what was going on, not a clue, you know. Like I said, neither one of us had any idea about a Bigfoot or anything government cover-ups or, you know, it just was overwhelming to us that this would happen,

especially over that. If we did get attacked by a bear, why isn't it in every newspaper telling everybody to watch out when you go fishing there that there's a dangerous bear and you might get attacked? You know, there would be signs everywhere. And that's what I kept telling them. Why won't you just tell everybody, be careful when you're there. Carry a big gun, and I mean a big gun.

and they wouldn't even that's what got me is they wouldn't even agree to the bear thing. You know, they're the ones telling us it was a bear attack, but now they won't even agree to it.

You know, I was like, well, then let's put it in a newspaper that the bears out there attacking people so you better leave, you know, stay well enough away from there.

And, uh, the last thing he said to me is, he, his exact words was, you just leave this alone. and we'll handle it. And I know that show actually got a little bit more strange.

I know medical records disappeared. Those guys got a few more visits and all over a quote-unquote bear. Sure, funny, a bear gets blamed for, it was no bear. And the other encounter I want to share with you is always been one of my favorites. It's Mike Woolley from Louisiana, episode 260. And he's in the intro of the show where he says the eyes are real, real evil. Here's Mike's encounter. Back in 1981, it was a typical day.

A weekend, and I was going to go deer hunting. And I had a place in a wild-off management area, I don't know, 7 8 miles from my house for a hunt. It was, that day would have been the fifth day. It was the fifth time to go hunting there. It was a new place that year. A friend had showed it to me. And I took a stand in there, a lane two stand. It's made out of heavy-duty pipe and had a plywood seat, had a V-cut in it, and you just leaned it up against a tree.

And what I'd do, I'd take a big heavy logging chain, that lock, lock it, you know, where they could steal it. At the end of season, I'd go back and extract it and get it out of there. I was working shift job, 311, a plywood plant, you know, not for my house a mile. And what I would do, I would, you know, get off 11 o'clock at night. Go home, get some deed, get a shop, go to bed, get about four, go get to woods, and I'd hunt about 11, and I'd come in, lay down a couple hours, and then go to work. I did this every day, and on the weekends I was off,

so I had a little bit more time. But anyway, that week, we'd had a really rough week on the job. I mean, real stressful. Everything that could go wrong, went wrong, And so I was really looking forward to being able to go deer hunting that weekend. You know, really looked forward. So got off Friday night and went and drank the beer, you know, got to relax a little bit. Got cleaned up, got all the gear ready, got the truck loaded up.

So next thing I know, that morning, the birds woke me up. I chirping outside the house must have been about 9.30. And I said, oh, crap. You know, it doesn't overslept. You know, I missed the lawn clock. You know, I was really tired. So it's kind of p-oed, you know, about it. And I thought, you know, I got chores and stuff I need to do, some errands, I need to run.

So I'll just do this, finish the morning out with that, and I'll just make an evening hunt. I'll go hunt at an evening time. Well, I did, and I left the house about 2.15, 220 on my way of my deer stand. What I did, I drove down to Spain Highway, and I turned off the highway. and go back down this old dirt road, about a mile and a half, something like that, and turn back to the left down this old damn logging road,

you know, probably had been logged 20 years. But anyway, it run back and dead ended about a mile in the woods. And about halfway down that logging road, it's a half mile mark, I would turn my truck around. I'd always turn my truck around face out. where I could get out there if I had to, get to hurry, you know, because of medical emergency or something.

And there was a place there, I could, a little room there, I could do it, you know, where they had loaded logs at one time. You know, trucks had beat it all down.

But anyway, I would get out of a truck and ease back there, really, really quiet. And my deer stand was at the end of the logging road, and it was really tight hunting back there. I mean, it's grown up.

You really couldn't see. Longest shot probably would have been 40 yards maybe, you know. And so I went back there and got on a stand, and I always kept logs back then. I wrote down everything, you know, the weather, temperature, you know, what I did, all that. But that particular day, it was a bluebird day, best sky. I mean, it was beautiful.

Wasn't new clouds in the sky. Sun was bright. You know, it was about 30. Between 30, 35 degrees, you know, no wind was blowing. I mean, I thought, man, I ought to do something to give me one today at least. Well, you know, I'd get on my stand about 3 o'clock, I'll check my watch. My stand's facing to the north. And so, I don't know, it's 10 foot, about a 10-foot deer stand, you know.

And so I get up there and I'm sitting there, you know, and nothing's happening, you know, just looking around, you know. So about 320. I heard some rustling coming from the, and I slowly turned my handle to see what's going on. Next thing I know, this little young doe deer, she come running on my deer stand and laid down under my deer stand, and she was actually, her front legs was actually touching the left side of the pipe on the deer stand.

it went, you know, in the ground. And she was really panted. Just really just wore out. And I thought, you know, well, the rut was on. If everybody knows what the rut is, you know, when the breeding, you know, the bucks get kind of crazy, you know, they get to where they don't care, you know. That's how a lot of them get killed, the big bucks, because they get their mind on one thing. And so that's what I thought, you know. but I had tried to walk back there and look around one time,

and it was so many briars. We've had those big thorn trees down here. They've got four or five-inch thorns, and they're razor-sharp. I mean, they'll cut you open like a knife, and you have to be careful because they will break, and, man, they'll get up in you. You've got to have surgery just about to get that out. So, you know, if it gets infected, you're really in bad shape.

well that's what I thought so out of my peripheral vision as I turned slowly turn into look I see something about two o'clock mission it came up real quick got behind a tree and I saw something

tall black you know it looks at me and I looked at it and I looked at it and I'm like you know it was having this fast you really didn't have that time think about nothing. I mean, I thought what the heck is this. So this thing, it hopped, flat-footed. I mean, it didn't get a backup and get like a running start or like a runner does, a Olympic runner.

And it just stood flat foot behind this tree and jumped 20 foot, went through the air, got off the ground, three, four feet, and landed directly behind this tree that's about three, o'clock facing my stand from the east and landed behind this big oak tree kind of like a black oak tree we have down here and I couldn't man they just blow my mind seeing some that big go through the air that easy you know I don't know what it was up to I don't know if it was going to try to work itself around me and go the other way I don't know but I'm sitting here I'm looking at all this I'm trying to take this in. And it's just like, I couldn't believe what my eyeballs was showing me. You know, you just can't believe that's something that, you know,

self-eight-foot tall, 500 pounds, black and hairy, you got a face like a human, you know. But anyway, I was staring at it and it was staring at me, and I'll never forget how evil the eyes were. It was horrible. I mean, I've never seen nothing that evil in its eyes and what it was looking at it was like. It wanted to make 100% eye contact with me all the time.

Actually, I feel something like it was drawing, like it was trying to look at my soul, you know. And it was real scary. I mean, I was never my life in that afraid. You know, I had that high-fire deer rifle. I was still afraid. I mean, he made me feel like that rifle was a BB gun, you know.

And so, this went on, and I kept hoping and praying, you know, maybe this thing, I leave, maybe he'll turn and go back to the way he come, and I'll just head back my truck, and I'll never come back here. They can have a deer stand. You know, I ain't worried about it. But that didn't happen. And, oh, it goes on in time, and he's staring at me, And I got real, I don't know how to say, but I got real clammy.

You know, it was 30 degrees, but I got clammy. My throat got real dry. I got dizzy, nauseated. My stomach was just kind of tying to step up in knots. I was shaking. I never forget. I'm sitting there. And it's just like, I can't.

here buzzing going on in my head. And it's like time is stood still or something. It's kind of like I'm going around in a real, real slow circle

and every now then I could see something, you know, part of my life or something. And it was the weirdest thing I've ever seen. Never my life but, you know. But anyway, this rocked on, I'm thinking, you know, I'm in a situation here, and I'm going to have to make a decision

on what to do, and it's going to affect my life. It's going to affect me the rest of my life, whatever, whatever I do, you know, whether I live or die. So the thing, it looks so human. I mean, the sun is shining down through some breaks in the Thompson tree, and I remember the hair on its shoulder how shiny it was. I thought, man, this is somebody in a costume or something because there's no way that this thing's real, you know,

you know, because it's some shiny. And I actually, I talk to something, too. I try to take that suit off and get out of here, take that head off, and get out of here, you know. And I'll never forget. He was looking at him, because I was talking to him. He was looking at my lips on my face, you know. But I've got to look in how big. it was, you know, and I thought, I mean, there ain't no way somebody could get to say that big.

And there ain't no way somebody could hop 20 foot through there that big, you know, and then it's just like, I guess my soul was talking to me. I don't know God's questions was coming up. And, like, you know, there's a circus in town? No. Has anybody heard, we got a report that would go real like escaping from somewhere? No. I mean, it's just like that.

It's fast, you know. And, but anyway, I'd read a book on some feral humans one time. I don't, you know. But anyway, I thought, well, maybe this is a feral human, you know. And if I shoot this thing and kill it, you know, I got to the only rest of my life. You know, I committed a homicide, you know. And I said, well, you know, I don't know whether this thing you'll commit a homicide on me. One of us, you know, it looks like it's going to be somebody's day to die,

and I sure didn't want to be the guy, you know. But anyway, you know, I said, you know, I'm going to look through my scope. I had a three-minute high-pipe scope. And I said, I'm going to look through my scope just laying his face and all. I'm going to make sure this has no kind of human in it. So I'll put my, make sure my scope's turned down real low because you can't have them. I'm trying to go high, hunting that close. I always turn them down to three, you know, when I'm hunting really tight situations.

I take, turn a scope down, and I turn to the right, and I look through my scope at this thing. And, oh, man, you can see, you know, it was kind of cold at the cool that day, and as you would breathe, you could see that, you know how it is in cold weather, you blow that moisture out through your nose and your mouth, you know, And I could see him breathing. I can see that coming out. And I looked through his eyes, you know, really black. And I could see his eyebrought, you know, eyelashes moving, everything. Yeah, I said, oh, crap.

I said, you know, I'm that situation. All of a sudden, he got mad because I pointed out rifle at him. He got kicked. He, man, he wigged out. he grow out at me and it was like a pissed off, excuse the language, African line. I mean, if you'd have been a mile over a mile away, you could have heard that, and here I am about 15 yards from him, you know. And it was like getting hit by a 70 mile per I win.

I mean, it's like, and I think the reason he roared at me, because I pointed out of him, the gun at him because after that until, you know, I left, he was mad. Oh, man, he was mad. I mean, he lost it. I mean, he, he went, that put him over the edge for him and a gun at him.

He, uh, he started stomping. Uh, I call it getting froggy the way he was doing. Uh, he, uh, he, uh, sort of beating, uh, on the tree. And, and, you know, he was standing behind the tree. He started beating with the insides of his fist, not like a direct punch what boxer punches but the size of his fist in a tree. He was mad.

You can hear him hitting that tree, man. I thought man, if I had been a human's head, he'd been hit. But anyway, a whistle shrill, whistle come back to him from the

northeast. I would say anywhere from 75 to 100 yards. a real shrill whistle. And he looked over at it, turned his head to the right, looked over there. And then he turned his head back and looked at me. And he gave me a grin.

I mean, you know, these things, they're smarter than what people think they're. He gave me a grin, you know, like now, you know, we're going to go to school, you know. So he whistled. back to this thing. He barely turns his head that way. He's still looking at me kind of half and half,

and he gives a shrill whistle back. You know, I know you said you've worked in some meals before, and you know how it's time to go to break or something like that. It's usually done by a whistle. Oh, yeah. And you know how that whistle flound. It's a shrill whistle, you know, and it picks up. Well, he did that back.

And, you know, bells went off my headlights. I said, you know, all the years of deer hunted, I have heard that whistle. And as a matter of fact, I've been on top of it before that close. And I thought it was a bird doing that, you know. I've heard the woodnoughts. I thought it was a woodpecker or something. You know, I didn't know. Well, anyway, when he gave his whistle back response to this,

whatever it was. I heard this thing, a bipedal movement coming to him. Evidently, it was a signal to each other. I don't know if I went in trouble or whatever, come on and help me out. But it started coming his way. And he's sitting there,

he's standing there looking at me, kind of got a sheepish grin on his face, you know, and I'm like, something's telling me, you know, you've got to go, you've got to go. either, you know, or one another, you know. And, you know, I got to think, and I said, you know, I know what he's going to do. He's going to wait until his buddy gets up there, and they'll be standing shoulder,

shelter looking at me, and then what they'll do is they'll put a charge and they'll split on me, you know, want to go to the back of the stand, and I'll be trying to focus on the one that's facing me to try to, you know, take him out and probably willing to hit him, and other them to come up behind me. I said, you know, it's kind of like shooting fish in a barrel. You know, I ain't got a chance, you know. So I started coming down to stand and got about halfway down, and I jumped off the stand.

And I was young back then, you know, probably 26, something like that, 25, 26. Real light and could run. But, man, my legs felt like they weighed 500 pounds apiece, you know. And so I'm running down on the logging road, trying to get to my truck, which is a half a mile away. And I look over my shoulder as I start going, you know, up the road to my truck to see where he is. And here he comes.

You know, I'm thinking, oh, my God, you know. I was hoping that he would, you know, turn and go other way. But anyway, I just started running the best I could. And he was kind of flanking me. he was about, I don't know, from where I was, he was about 50 feet from me. He was running through the woods. And, I mean, he was just, he was mowing down trees and brushed. I mean, he didn't care.

He was, those big thorn trees, you know, got five-and-inch thorns. They're black, and they're just, they're cut you in pieces of deadly. He was running through them. I mean, that's what scared me. I saw what he was doing, the aggression and what he was putting his body through to try to catch you up with me. That's what scared me. I said, oh, man, this thing really wants me, you know, a bat. And, you know, automatically went from me thinking maybe he was trying to bless me, you know, scare me out of the area.

But when I saw what he was doing it, I said, he really, this thing was to kill me, you know. So, anyway, we're moving on, you know, and I could hear him, Oh, or, yeah, he was just a grunting and just agitated, and he gets mad, you know, you know, the grunts and stuff he puts out, you know. So I'm going along there, and I'm coming up to my truck, and as I get about 75 feet from it, you know, things start going off my head, you know, well, you got to unlock it, you've got to get in there, you got to crank it up, What are you going to do about that?

When you turn your back, this thing's going to nail you. So I'm getting up about to tailgate of my truck. I take, you know, I think, man, I got to buy me some time. I got to do something, you know. So anyway, I spin around and I shoot my rifle from the hip. It's kind of like a warning shot. You know, I turned towards him, and the bullet hit the, the, the, the, Let me see, each side of the old pine tree.

It was a big tree, but it wasn't really a big, big tree. And it determined, I mean, these pine beetles, Lussie got in it because the tree was just to eat out real bad. I've seen it's a bullet hit about seven foot on the backside of that tree. The creature was roughly about three feet from it. And, I mean, just a big old cloud of a bullet, blue black-looking dust coming out of the tree right there all over. Well, I get, I'm done running my truck, did it a lot, getting cranked up, and I mean, I

throw in gear and I'm going. And I'm just smoking it, getting it out of it. I look at my rearview mirror, and I see a big old black hand reaching for the tailgate, you know, and he had run away in the truck. I guess he'd be going to try to get in it. I don't know. but when I got on down to the road there where I had to go down a little curve and slow down I looked my rear mirror and there was another one standing by him so evidently I guess the

one that uh signal him uh he was pulling up the rear I never saw him of course I didn't look over my back that way I wasn't looking on my back because this thing I was looking to the side of me you know because he was running to my side uh I didn't look at the back you know sometimes you're actually afraid to you know it could slow you down but uh anyway I got to my truck and uh

got in and got out of there and uh but you know have a lot people tell me that uh I was trying to take food off the table and and uh you know stuff like that and they were mad and uh they were just trying to kind of escort me out of there

but you know when you see something you go through what I went through and you're in your truck, you're trying to leave. I mean, you're trying to end that situation. You're leaving. And it runs your truck down and tries to get into tobacco truck, well, yeah. What's he want to do then?

You know, so, you know, that was a rough day. One of the rough days of my life, you know. And again, that was episode 260 with Mike Wully. He and I've heard Mike's encounter a million times, and I still enjoy listening to him retell that encounter. Hopefully some on my list was the same ones you guys had on your list. Believe me, I could have done my top 50. It was very hard to pick the shows I wanted to play for you guys.

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