Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:50 Bigfoot encounter stories Wrap-Up

Episode Date: September 15, 2014

Join us as we bring back Bruce from EP:49 to discuss his Sasquatch encounters with the creature on the reservation in Washington State. We will also be hearing from Dave who is a listener to the show and wanted to share some personal encounters he had with Sasquatch.

When I had come down this hill, I had seen this creature cross the road. It would have ripped my locked door from my truck, extracted me from my vehicle, and there wouldn't have been a damn thing I could have done about it. Look, this thing I got to notice in its eyes. His eyes was real, real evil, real sinister looking. You know, the look it was giving me. What are you reporting? Somebody out here.

What's going on now, sir? That's sort of a bitch is about six foot. Yes, I'm looking right here. Uh-oh. Welcome to Bigfoot hotspot Radio. Sasquatch Chronicles. I'm your host, Wes, along with my brother Woody, and researcher, author and friend, Liam Jesse. Let's start the show. I'll start off by talking a little bit again, as Wes mentioned on the last show, about the changes that are upcoming with the show. Everybody was thinking of the show was going to go away or that they were going to have to pay for it and not be able to listen to it if they didn't want to pay for it, but they're actually going to be getting a combination of both.

we're going to be adding a lot more content to the show. Well, yeah, I mean, we're going to be adding more content to the show. And I'm kind of excited about doing this because I think it'll free up a lot of all of our times to devote more to the show and make the show, add more content, make the shows longer. I'd like to do a couple shows a week. I think it would be kind of cool to do a couple shows a week. So there's a lot of changes that are coming with the show. But I would love to, you know, how do we devote more time to the show? show, you know, all of us work full-time, all of us have outside jobs, and we've been doing this

basically on our free time away from our families. And by creating free content and creating paid content, and I'm hoping a lot of our audience members, a lot of our people who listen, will support us by paying for some of the paid content. It's not going to be a lot, maybe a couple bucks a month. And I'd like to expand the show out. Like I said, before. I'd like to create the video content. We have a great website that we're putting up. And I've had a first glance at the website. The website's awesome. It's going to be a great website. And I'd like to create more in there for people to go to when they're researching the subject. You know, there's a lot of things I want to put in writing on the website. There's places I want to put

for reports so people can go and look up different reports. You know, I want to take what's being done out there right now. and make it 100 times better and have 100 times more of the information on the subject so that when people have an encounter or have known someone who's had an encounter or just have a general interest, the place they'll go to will be, hopefully our site will have all of the information that they'll ever need the most that we can ever get at this point until someone drags in a body. or, you know, because we've talked a lot in the past about the behaviors and enough.

We've had enough encounters of people describing what they're running into, I think, to where we can get somewhat of a big picture on what's going on out there. By creating paid content and also having free content, it'll really enable us to deliver a better show. And the show is going to change a little bit down the road, but it's going to change for the better, and it's going to be a better show. But I want to remind everyone out there again.

I'm not going to, you know, Will and I and Shannon, we're not just going to take the show away from people and say, well, if you want the show now, you have to pay. There's still going to be a lot of free content out there for people to listen to. And I really hope people support us, and I will say most of the feedback we've gotten from people has been really supportive. And also, Wes, another question that I've been getting is,

as far as maybe a video side of things? Are we going to try to take it in that direction at all? Yeah, we're going to add a lot of video content. With the show, we're going to create, there's going to be a portion of the show that's going to be live video of us doing the show and people can talk with us, chat with us. We can bring listeners on that want to ask questions.

They can ask questions. And there's going to be a lot that we're doing out in the field. That's going to be a lot of video content too as well. things to look for. You know, right now there's a lot of things to where, you know, like Will and I have said in the past, hey, look for this or hey, look for that. And we really haven't done a great job at describing what to look for.

And so on the website, we're going to have not only photos, but we're going to have videos of different things to look for when you're out there. And just overall, there's going to be a lot of video content on the site. Yeah, it'll be a much better platform, I think, than anything else is out that's out there currently. So, like you mentioned, it'll be the go-to place for people if they really want to learn about the subject or see what's new going on. Yeah, the content will be much, it'll be well worth, you know, the little bit that we're going to be charging for it. Nice little one-stop cross-referencing site.

Absolutely. Yeah, and I think it's important, too, to note that it's not, you know, we're not charging to make a buck off anything. We're charging for, to create all this extra content, to add more to the show, to offset, some of those costs. No one's getting rich off this. All right. Well, I guess enough business talk. On the last show, we had Bruce on.

And Bruce wanted to share some more encounters that he's heard to the tribe and another encounter that happened to him. I know on the last show we ran out of time, but I wanted to bring Bruce back to share those encounters with us. Thanks for having me back. Hi, Bruce. How you doing? Hey, Wolf.

Well, we finished off the last show, so let's go from there. You had another incident that you... When I was a teenager, we were sitting around behind my house and a little stash spot we had where we used to drink beer and hang out. It was probably about 100 yards behind my house in a new building that they built. We had just gotten a case of beer, and there was four of us. and we were all sitting around. The dogs around the corner, around the back side of the building were going nuts.

The dogs, you know, they bark around when people walked by and stuff, but it was different. There was three houses and all three houses. All three dogs at the three houses were all freaking out, barking around all hard. Nobody really paid attention to it. I kind of got up and walked out to look around over towards the houses and something caught my eye a little bit of movement, and I looked at this tree,

and it looked like something was peeking out from behind the tree. I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me because it was dark out, and I was staring at it for a long time, and then it moved back behind the tree, and I was like, oh, man. I was like, what the hell? Peaked its head back out again, and it was big, and it was black and it went back behind the tree

again and I told my buddies I was like hey man we gotta get out of here go out whatever man you're right and I was like no man something something I just seen something I was like no man I'm not kidding we gotta go I just seen something back here

I told them I'm the one who bought all the beer so I'm taking a beer with me and we're going underneath a big new light they put up and if you guys want to drink some of this beer with me you're going to have to go with me and they kind of

all got serious for a second and said oh he's not kidding man and everybody packed everything up and we all took off and sat underneath the light and we had our neighborhood dog that we used to like to take with us because he was like a early warning sign

of anything that was going wrong at nighttime and he liked to sit with us at night when we kicked back in the neighborhood I was kind of freaked out. I was kind of freaked out. Did anybody else do anything around there? No. Well, people had their little stories of hearing things walking around their houses and

hearing things screaming around. But not real often, you know. You hear a story every now and then. The next day we were walking by the area where this tree was at, the tree was probably about 15 feet tall. we went around the back of this little tree that it was peeking around from behind and the grass was probably about chest high. It was really tall grass and behind that tree all the grass was all smashed down and there was a little trail walking off towards the trees in that tall grass and that was kind of whoa. It was like holy smokes.

And I was with one of my buddies that next day that when we walked back there to look for Prince or whatever. and he was like, oh man, you weren't kidding. I was like, no, I told you guys I was serious, man. Yeah, you really did see something in there. Yeah, and it was big. Because the tree was about 15 feet tall, and it went about three quarters of the way up the tree, so probably about 11, 12 feet tall.

So that was your first encounter. What about your second? Yeah. My second one was, we were, it was like, at night, it was about 11 o'clock, and we're coming out of this housing project that had a really long, a really long, dark road on it that went out to the highway. We just left all the houses and were coming around this bend that went to the left. It looked like there was somebody tall standing on the side of the road. One of us, I can't remember me or my cousin, he said,

he said oh who's that it must be Lyle because there's this guy that's one tall pretty tall guy that we have around the neighborhood in the corner and it was it was facing to our left and it was looking down at the ground and he

slipped his high beans on it right on it and it looked up and turned towards us and that was the one that he actually didn't use his neck at all his whole body lifted up and his whole shoulders and everything turned and looked right at us and we went right by it probably about it was probably about maybe 10 feet off the road and we went past it and we just got a really good look at it

and we got past it and both of us looked at each other at the same time and at the exact same time we're like did you see that and we just punched it and hauled us out of there. But that one, he looked really big. What did it do is he went by it? He just watched us go by. He looked right into our headlights and went by. And what was weird about that one was he, his eyes didn't shine on us at all when we had the light shining right in his face.

I don't know if that was the angle he was looking at us or what. but... Yeah, it could have been. We got a real good look at him. He said his hair was really long. He had really long hair like, I don't know, like the Boggy Creek Monster one.

Mm-hmm, right. Where, like, the picture on the front where it looks like his hair is really long, he seemed like he had real long hair all over his whole body. And we could see him from, like, the knees, from the knees up. And the hair on his...

Yeah, it looked right at his face. It just, there was no, we couldn't see any skin. You could see his eyes and his nose just looked like a person. But around his mouth it was really, really hairy, so he couldn't really see the opening of his mouth at all, like a mustache and a beard, kind of. Couldn't see, couldn't see any ears. And his head was, he was, his shoulder.

were really big and his head was like sitting right on top of his shoulders where he looked like he was really muscular in his neck. He didn't open his mouth. He just turned and faced us and gave us a good look at, you know, right at him, and which was scary because he looked right at us when we were going by. That's very similar to the ones that I saw in Graham, you know, with longer hair. And a lot of people will ask details of faces. and a lot of times you don't get a lot of detail if their mouth was closed because of all that hair. Yeah. His hair on his hands at the end of his arms seemed like it was longer down below his hands.

It was hanging over so he couldn't see too much detail in the fingers. It was like really long at the wrists. Hey, Bruce, I'm curious. What did your friends say as you pass by and you guys looked at each other? did he say to you? He said, did you see that? We both said it at the same time and that's pretty much all we said and we just, boom, just punched it and got out of there as quick as we could. And when we got home, I was asking him what he seen. And he said, I seen it look like a, look like a big foot. Yeah. How tall would you estimate the creature was? It was,

It seemed like a normal height of a person. When what we seen, it looked like it was about maybe six foot or maybe a little bit more than that. That's the thing is when we actually went back the next day to look, you know, where we've seen it at. And right there in that spot where we've seen it, we come around the corner where we were walking. And it was standing on this little trail that was off the side of the road. but the trail went down below the road about four feet where he was standing so it when we were standing down there it was like it was more like up to our waist the side of the road and when he was standing there it was like up to his knees so it was like 10 feet tall or something like that

how far from that location to the first location you saw one was um so what i guess what i'm asking is what how far away was that from the first time you saw one. Oh, just from my house, it was probably about a half a mile probably. So it's in the same area generally? Yeah, it was like, you got to take a couple little turn on the highway and then another turn left on the other side of the highway and down the road about 300 feet is where I've seen the first one at. And then, yeah.

And what time of year was that? This last one, it was fall. It was like October, I do believe. And when was the first one? The first one? Let's see. Summer was just over and school started. I think it was around November.

Yeah, so they're coming around. They're right around that same time frame. Yeah, it seems like when I was a little kid and people used to talk about stuff happening around their house. and stuff is right around fall and winter. The end of fall and the beginning of winter is when I used to hear the stories of dog barking and things screaming around. And that's the thing with these things. They'll, a lot of times will come each year in roughly the same time frame to a certain

area because that's where they're feeding during that time of year. Yeah, and the thing is, is back then it wasn't so populated in an area. there's a lot of buildings and houses and stuff that are that have gone up since then in the whole area, even east, west, and north and south of it. So it's a lot different now. And that's how to run around the back when I was younger. Yeah. Yeah, I remember what that area was like back in the 70s.

There wasn't a whole lot out there. Yeah, it was pretty dense, pretty sparse. It was a small logging town back then. It was more like farms and cowfields, you know. The houses were long ways away from each other. Bruce, I was wondering, in any of your encounter, did you, you know, besides just being afraid of it, did you have an intense feeling of dread or nauseousness or anything like that?

No, no. I was just really scared. It really just scared me just how big it is in nighttime. and Harry, you know, it scared me. I was scared. And Bruce, you said you had talked with the tribal elders and you wanted to share some stories from what you had heard. I was wondering if you'd share some of those with us.

I have my grandpa. He used to have this shed. It was a smokehouse where he smoked a fish in the deer meat and elk meat behind his house. And he lived right next door to me and I used to ask him about when I was really young he was like 80 years old

so I'd ask him about questions when I was a kid about Bigfoot's and stuff and he'd said he wouldn't really tell me much he told me that he would every year in the middle of winter he would take some

dried fish some smoke fish and he would lay about three of them all the way at the top of the smoke house for them and they would come get them and the smoke house was actually tall it was probably about nine feet tall and they would come and take them he'd leave it there for them and he said he wouldn't do it all the time but that's what time of year he'd do it when he would do it after he passed away my i i was hearing things around the house in the middle of winter one year and this was

after my mom moved out, and I inherited the house from my father, and I was home alone, and I seen this big shadow go across the window, and I was hearing these tapping on top of the house, like all the way at the very top of the house at the top of the rise. You could hear something walking by tapping on top of the house. This was kind of bugging me for about a week, and I went over to see my cousin, who was a neighbor next to me and she said that she's having these really bad dreams about a Sasquatch coming into her house

and sitting on her couch telling her that he was sick and he was really gray and old and she told me that she thinks that the fish that Gramps used to leave for him, helped him, and that I should go and plant some fish up there in that spot. because the house was gone, but the smoke house was still standing. So I took some smoked fish, and I went and climbed up there and left it up there.

And about three nights later, it was all gone. After that, it quit bothering me and her because I asked her if she was still coming around her house, or she was still dreaming. And she said, no. And I said, I haven't been getting bothered at nighttime either. It's very interesting. It was your cousin live next door, right?

Yeah. She was a single mom. Did she ever have her own personal encounters? Obviously, she must have if she's dreaming about it. Yeah, I think she said that she's had something shake her house around one time. Like, like, because her house was, it wasn't really on a foundation. It was kind of on, like, some bricks, holding it up, some underneath. me and she said that some was actually moving her house around shaking her house

grabbing it by the corner and shaking it around and she said a couple times when she was coming home late she could hear something screaming out in the back in the field back by that area I was telling you where we were hanging around and I seen that one peeking at me she said she heard some screaming from back that way we've been hanging around there pretty often then yeah back when we were younger I think they were more around. I had this neighbor kid, well, he was probably about

five years older than me. Parents wouldn't really let him out, let him go out and hang out with us too much. And I would go down and see him and he was kind of, I don't know what it was, but he was, he'd always have these stories about

seeing something walking around back in the field behind his house and hearing stuff. And it seemed like when I was with him, that's when weird stuff would happen. You hear something screaming in the woods, you hear something crashing around out in the woods.

And if I wasn't with him, a lot of that wouldn't happen. We'd go play around at nighttime and we would hardly hear anything. But something about him was, I think he would sneak out at night because his parents wouldn't let him hardly go anywhere or anything.

And I think he would go out and actually interact with him or something because he had something. He knew him or something weird. Well, very interesting, Bruce. Yeah, it sounds like a busy place. Yeah, it used to be a long time ago when I was younger, but it's not so much now.

You know, the job I do now, we drive around a lot at nighttime and we check all these gates down to the river and walk around these buildings near these woods and stuff and a lot of my friends have told me stories about on the job. We have a new amphitheater that we have up here where we have all the concerts and everything. One of my coworkers was sitting and he was doing paperwork

with his windows down one night and he heard something screaming really loud and he heard it three times. He shut his car off and listened and turned his radio off and he heard it one last time really good and clear. and then he said about 15 minutes later one of my other co-workers had called him

and said hey we need you to come over here to the applicator the nighttime security over here needs to make a report and he's like a report about what he said they see something in the back button right near the fence

that was big and hairy and walking away through the back side of the fence and they want to know who to report it to. And my work, co-workers was like, I have no idea. They were like,

should we call the sheriff or who do we call? And they're like, well, I don't know who to report it to. But the guys that seen it that worked at the amphitheater, they weren't local people.

They were from, you know, out of town. They were from, like, Seattle or something. Well, they're definitely still coming around then occasionally.

It's you're right. It's not as much as it used to, because they used to come down in those areas a lot more often back, you know, in the 60s, 70s and even in the 80s.

But, you know, with all the building in that area, that area is real... But they do still come down occasionally and where they can. Me and some of my buddies, we go out and sit around at night and, you know, we don't really go looking for them or anything, but we go out down to the river and build a fire and sit around and listen for noises. And we get some activity sometimes, like, whoops and sometimes really loud screams and we're all, there's a few of us that are interested in the subject and we, after I found your guys a show, I introduced them to it and now we all, all of us are introducing our

friends into it and we like listen to you guys and we look forward to listen every Sunday. We appreciate that. Yeah, thank you so much, Bruce. Appreciate you. Appreciate you sharing your stories with us. I'm glad you guys having me on. I was hoping you guys would have liked my email. I know it was pretty long and rambling email without the punctuation and everything.

Nah, you did good. You did good. I appreciate you sharing your encounter and the stories that you've heard around there. So we really do appreciate coming on. Yeah, those are great. You guys' show. You guys are cool. Thanks, then.

I want to say thanks to Shannon and will. You guys are awesome. He's a awesome show. What about Wes? He's not too bad. Oh, yeah. Well, I talk to you on email all the time. Yeah, he'll say thank you later.

Yeah. Yep. No, thank you, Bruce. No, thank you, Bruce. All right, buddy. Thanks for coming on. We really do appreciate it. All right.

You guys have a good day. You too. All right, Bruce, you too. Bye, Bruce. You know, some people might think that's all. that you're dreaming about Sasquatch and you're having weird dreams. After my encounter, man, I dreamt,

I'm telling you Shannon Will, I dreamt about Sasquatch for months afterwards. I mean, that's all, it almost got to the point to where I couldn't sleep, I really didn't want to sleep, because that's all I thought about,

that's all, it's like I would replay, during the day, I would replay the encounter over and over and over and get in my head. And then at night, when I slept, torture. It was like, that's all I dreamt about. I don't think that's unusual because after all these years, I'll still have a nightmare

occasionally about my first encounter. Really? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's something that fear just doesn't go away. We gotta get Shannon to have an encounter. I was just going to say, and I'm still the nut. I'm still like the nut over here, like raising my hand, like, I want to see one. Like, you know, I'm still one of those. Sure you do. Be careful what you wish for.

Sure. That's right. That's right. I find it fascinating to people like Shannon who have an interest in this. And I would say it's the bulk of the people out there who have a general interest in this and have never had an encounter. But kind of look at the subject and go, you know, is everyone lying? Is everyone full of BS or is there something actually out there? And then there's the other side of it where it's like Will and I, where we were kind of pushed to the subject because we had an encounter. I know, Will, when you had your encounter, your report team,

I doubt test what was anything on your mind. And just like Woody and I. Right, you guys never expected that. Yeah, it was the last thing on our mind. Exactly. Yeah, you know, we had seen tracks a couple years before, but, you know, by that point, you're a kid, you forget about things pretty fast,

especially if there isn't, you know, that constant stimulation, shoot a small hand. Of course, you guys have a lot of other things in your minds and, you know, wham, all of a sudden you're in this situation. You know, that's just they kind of stuck with it.

Yeah, and that's when you hear about the telepathy and you hear about the different dimensions and you hear about all of the weird stuff that goes along with this, it's almost kind of offensive because what I saw wasn't... I was just going to say it kind of pisses you off.

Yeah, it kind of pisses you off. because what I saw wasn't anything weird like this. What I saw was a wild animal out there running around. A wild animal I've never seen before, but it was a wild animal I've never, you know. And so when you hear about all of these different dimension jumpings, you hear about all this telepathy, you hear about the weirdest side of this topic, it's almost kind of offensive. Yeah, you have to ask, what the hell are these people talking about?

Are they crazy? I was just going to say, as somebody who's, you know, just been on the list, listening into things and taking it all in, you know, when Wes would describe it as, first of all, it was like King Kong out there, and second of all, there was no way they had enough guns and ammunition to even think of handling any sort of business with these things. That always stuck with me, and they're sitting in a vehicle. Yeah, and people come up with this crazy stuff, and it really, it diminishes what is most often a really terrifying encounter, you know, and the phenomenon.

Those people would probably wet themselves if they actually saw one. At the very least. At the very least. Next on the show we have Dave, and Dave had a couple encounters he wanted to share with us, so I wanted to welcome Dave to the show. Hey, man, glad to talk to you guys. Hey, good to talk with you.

Hi, Dave, how are you this evening? I'm pretty good. I'm anxious to talk about what I've seen down here with everybody this day that I've talked to about it. Seems to laugh their head off or gives me that. drifting off with. Okay, well, we're not going to do that. So how long ago was this incident?

It was probably about a month ago now. Tell us what you were doing just prior to the incident that particular day and then walk us into the events as they happened. Well, I take my kids out there because they got a really nice bike path. It goes about six and a half miles deep out into the slumps, and it's real nice bike path. It's broad enough that you can drive a car down. But there wasn't a lot of people out there that day.

It was like a Tuesday or something, and there was maybe one or two bicycles, they went by it. But my daughter was riding her bike, and I had my one-and-a-half-year-old in the stroller. So I'm pushing her, and you know, most one-and-a-half-year-olds aren't very quiet, so Kenzie started to cry a little bit. So while we was walking, and she was crying, I could hear something to my right, over in the swamps, because it was like breaking stuff. It was kind of loud.

It was very noticeable. So I stopped, and I tried to listen. I thought it was pretty odd. We just kept going. I started pushing the stroller. Kaelan was riding her bike. We get up about a mile and a half, and I hear something from my left. There's still something going on the right,

but there's something on my left that you can absolutely feel running through the wood. It was running full speed as fast as they could go. I could not see it. I stopped to try to get some sort of motion in the swamps or in the wood or tell where it was coming from. But it sure enough passed it and got up pretty far away, so I wasn't concerned about it. So we're walking, stuff's breaking to the right, that thing's running to the left. And it's not like it was, I've never felt footsteps before in my life,

but you can audibly hear it. You can hear it running, and you could feel it through your whole body. And my kid's freaking out a little bit. I was kind of freaking out because I've never heard anything that big running through the woods. And it was a bipedel. It was completely bipedel. So it runs up past us. So we're all taking our time and going by, you know, going walking.

Nobody's down the bike path. We're probably about three miles deep. It gets up into this place where there's a power lines that cross through the park, a big bunch of power lines, and they sometimes ride horses back there on that trail. But about a quarter mile was an invisible side of that coming around the corner. And I heard something snap to the left, which is the same side that we heard them footsteps of stuff running up on. So the humidity down here is ridiculous. So I was sweating pretty bad.

It was three miles deep in there with my kid pushing a stroller. So I worked up a pretty good sweat. pull out my iPhone was getting ready to see if I could take a picture of whatever it was and was just curious, was kind of bracing for something. And sure enough, man, about 10 feet away, something stands up and takes off running as fast. I mean, within like two seconds, it was completely out of sight. But it was, I was standing up on this road, which was easily a foot taller than the lowland area below it, because they build it up so you could drive on it.

This thing was a foot taller than I was, and it was brown and had like golden blonde tips. It was either blonde or white tips on its fur. It was big, and I didn't see a TED, but I seen the back of the TED, and it was standing over about six-foot-tall cypress bushes that they have down there. It looked like, I don't know what exactly they're called, Palm metals or something. But it was ridiculous and scared the crap out of me, and my daughter happened to see it, and she said, Daddy, did you see that big monkey? And I said, that wasn't a monkey, Kay, Kay.

So she saw it, I saw it. I was sweaty. I was trying to take a picture of it, and I dropped my iPhone and shattered the face of my iPhone. So it was a bad day for that. Ultimately, we turned around as soon as we saw that, because I got really nervous that that was that close to the road. I didn't feel comfortable.

It was far away when it was running. But when we got up to it, it took off running 10 foot away from me and just was completely gone out of sight, scared to crap out of me. You never seen anything like it. That collar. And I say that collar because two years prior to that on the same track of land. It's called Starkey.

And there's a big ranch off the side of this major highway. And there's nothing but cattle and just acres and hundreds of acres of land that's attached to this wilderness park. I was driving down this highway and I happened to look over to my left. And about 100 feet off and broad daylight, it was probably 7 o'clock in the afternoon. Broad daylight, there's this huge black and gray creature that, looked like Brock Lesner, but covered in air, and probably eight and a half, nine feet tall. They say these swampings down here are small. I beg to differ, I was as close as I ever wanted to get to anything like that.

I was standing at the fence, and I was so concerned about it. I picked up the phone and I called my girlfriend, I asked her, what do I do? I'm literally standing here in broad daylight watching this big-foot-looking feature. I said, do I call the tops? Do I call the news? And she said, well, if you call the cops, you're going to come baker at you. which is like a looney bin type thing. So I went out to the side of the highway,

and I literally tried to flag people down just to get anybody to witness what I was seen. But I was as close as I ever wanted to get to it. It was the most enormous-sized creature I've ever seen. It was peeking and ten around, looking at these cattle. It was just patches of wood, really thick swamp like woods, and then there's cattle grazing in between these patches.

And it was like, you kept walking around pacing, was peeking around the trees, looking at these cattle, and I watched it for a get-that minute. So that's my Florida. The one you saw in Florida, was it a daytime siting? Was it a nighttime siting? Both of them was daytime settings. If you look on my Facebook page, I think I don't know if I sent you a friend's request.

I know that's how I contacted you. I have a picture of something that was breaking trees a couple years ago that we was walking around. The sun was in her eyes. So I told Tammy, she was out with me. At the time, Kaelin was like a one and a half-year-old kid. And she was crying and screaming in her stroller. And this seems like the baby. crying absolutely draws these things attention and they're either curious or I have no

idea why they would want to come see that but it seems you draw their attention on both occasions out of Starkey in the park there's been stuff out there and one of them I took a picture of it of something peeking behind a tree and then running away and it's on two feet you can see the black figure running away but the headshot I zoomed in on because I had like a crappy 8-density flip-bone camera in one of the early ones. So the pixels are really kind of not that good. But you're welcome to look on that and check that picture out in telling me what to think, or I can send it to you. And Dave, I'm sorry, was the picture that you got from the siting where you saw it for about 10 minutes?

Is that where you got the picture from? No, it's about five minutes from there, five or 10 minutes. It was on the same track of land. It all connects to it. Okay. And I think that you can even file a, I don't know how you get information from Rangers, but two weeks prior to mine, because I wouldn't talk to a Ranger after I seen that out there this past time.

And I told him what I saw. And he did not look surprised at all. And he said there was a 65-year-old lady, like a week and a half before, who was on the hiking path. And I take my kids on the bike path. This lady was on the hiking path, which goes through the jungle. It's winding. It's a very narrow walkway. some places it's only broad enough that you can touch grass on both sides or, you know, vegetation.

It's that close. So she had said that she was within 20 feet of some big foot-looking creature that was staring her straight in the eyes, and she was crying, and there's a big group report at that park, and I mentioned that to him, and he said, well, that's not the only thing. There's a lot of stuff that we can't seem to explain out here. They started going into tree breaks and the noises. They have a primitive campground about four and a half miles deep away from everybody. where you have to hike back in,

and he says there's been campers come out and make the porch of that place, too. So I'm not the only one to see stuff out there, but I'm thinking I'm the only one who's got a picture of it. It's pretty able to have to check that out. Yeah, it's pretty unnerving, to be honest with you. Kids bring them in. The sound of a kid crying on both occasions was the only thing that they had in common. You know, it was both daytime sighting.

I don't go out there at night. You know, the park closes at 8 o'clock, and I'm usually gone, you know, half an hour before then. Well, go ahead, Dave. I didn't mean to cut you off. You said you had an encounter in Michigan. Yeah, the first year of deer hunting season in 2006. We went scouting a couple weeks prior to the opening day of deer season.

And I was in this place called Portland, Michigan. And DNR says that there's an average of 99 deer per square a mile, which, you know, ideally being me and my brother being hunters, That was a great place for us to look. So we found some state land out there that bordered up against the Grand River. And it kind of was in like a triangle area. You know, it went into like a residential area, but it was also cut off by the roads on the right, which, you know, was a couple miles away.

And then on the left side was the Grand River. So it was a funnel. So we thought that was a great area. There was some grass there for the, you know, gears of stuff to heat on. And there was persimmon trees and there was some apple trees. So it was a great spot to put up a tree. tree, so I'm trying to find a tree in that area, a general vicinity, that's not right up for my brother's hunting, that I could hunt as well. So I found, I started wandering around about

35, 40 yards in. You just kind of look for a perfect tree and find a place to put my climber at. Well, I ran across this, the best way I can put it is an earth vegetation-made igloo that was taller than me. And it was completely made up vegetation that was laying around or was around there and it was very well made. So I thought, wow, that's pretty cool. So I got down on my hands and knees, and I crawled through the entrance of it. And there was no holes for guns or bows

or anything to be looking out of. It was not a hunter's blind. There was no way that that was a hunter's line. And it was absolutely enormous inside. You could probably fit four or five people inside of that thing. So I thought, well, I was pretty crazy, and I told my brother about it, and I ended up finding a tree about 35, 40 yards away from there, bordering that field, I was telling you. out.

The opening day of bow season, we get out there October 1st, and it's about 3 o'clock in the morning we leave the house. We want to get out in the woods about 3, 30, quarter of the floor

and let the wood settle down. And we both wore scent-lock suits, and we did real good scent management and stuff to make sure that we didn't have any kind of odor or anything on us to scare the deer away because there was an awful lot of deer in that particular area. So, make a long story short, and I put my tree climber up there.

I get all settled in, About four o'clock rolls around, and I start hearing something coming from that area. Now, I'm telling you, I'm up in a tree about 18 feet in a climber, and I don't have a weapon with me. All I have is my bow and arrow. And something walked straight from where that igloo-looking structure thing was right underneath of my tree, and it felt like it was right at my feet, and it was sniffing. And it was real deep sniffs and stuff, and I'm telling you, I've never been more horrified as a great thing. grown man in my whole life. I thought I could hear my heartbeat. I was holding my breath.

I didn't have a flashlight or anything, but something came directly underneath my tree stand and started sniffing me. Now, I know game. I hunt a lot. I've hunted ever since I was a kid. Game does not come straight to you where you're at, where your location is, ever. So the best assumption I can provide is that that thing smelled me in his home or whatever it was and decided to pay me of it. Yeah, I knew right where you were. Yeah, I knew exactly where I was. Walk straight to my tree and stood directly underneath it. And I've heard deer snort and I've heard, you know, the game of Michigan, there's not a whole lot up there that makes that kind of noise.

Never in my life if I've been more afraid than I was that morning. And, you know, what was I going to do? I couldn't, even if I had a flashlight, I had a bow and arrow. I wasn't going to be able to just draw up on this thing in the darkness. It was a pretty scary night, pretty scary morning. So I couldn't wait for daylight to come up. And when it did, I got down off my tree stand when I had to see everything, and I went over to my brother's tree stand, and we called it in an early day. Dave, how far was your brother's tree stand from yours?

About 150 yards. And honestly, I almost, you know, don't think that I'm some sort of a wimp or something. But he's my older brother, and he's always been very protective. And I'm in, you know, at the time, I'm in my mid-30s. And I really wasn't afraid of anything. I was bigger than Danny. But I almost called his name. because I wanted him to know

that something, you know, something bad was about to happen. I had this crazy fear inside my chest. I just... How long did it stay there? It stood underneath the tree about 25, 30 seconds, and then it just walked off on two legs and just, you know, went on out of hearing. But I'm telling you,

there's nothing in the woods that comes naturally to a human scent. They fear us. They know what this is all about. And so, like I said, something smelled me, recognized me, paid me, visit and we didn't go hunting back there, but I can tell you exactly where it's located at. And like Starkey, I think somebody should go out here to the Starkey Park and get enough people

together and push these creatures out. You would be able to find one. I'm absolutely positive if we could just get enough people together to go out and push this park. Did you see any evidence around the tree stand during the daytime? Around the tree stand during daytime, there was grass and leaves and stuff below because This is October and Michigan. That's when the leaves started turning, leaves start falling. And whatever was walking there, there left no tracks that I could see.

And I wasn't sticking around on enough to start poking through some leaves. Right, right. I don't blame you. Now, when I was younger and I was a kid in Ohio, I was maybe 12 years old, and this was in southern Ohio, where it's plenty of hills and plenty of country people. And it was few houses, you know, all scattered out over miles. There was no real close neighbors. So my grandfather lived at the back of this dead end hollow.

And they had, you know, cow farm and this at the other and raised everything. They ate off the land. And he had a turkey guy. So he told me to take that turkey and grab it by the ankles and walk it up, you know, through the power lines up to the edge of his property and chuck it over the fence. Well, I was just a kid and I wanted to make my grandfather press. So I grabbed that dead turkey and I took off walking. And I stood it over the fence.

It was probably maybe, you know, three-quarters of a mile, maybe a mile away from the house, you know, up through the woods on these power. I threw this thing over the fence and I take off walking back and there's a patch of trees. Like I said, we're cattle grazed. There's usually some trees. There's coverage, especially in Ohio. And then there's grazing lands. Some places you could see through the patch of trees to the field on the other side.

So you can see through the tree line. Well, there was something walking, pacing me that was absolutely huge. I never got a good sight of what it was. But it was bigger than me and it was walking in the woods. and it looked like your prototypical bit for the V's days because I didn't know what the heck it was I went back and told my dad and my grandpa that there was some man up there on my hill

well grandpa you know said there's nobody supposed to be on this property and this stuff the other but from a kid we seen in the same area me and my brother found footprints in the winter snow down in the creek there was bear footprints it wasn't bear as in D-E-A-R there was bears V-A-R-E and in the creek you can follow these tracks They always went out to the edge of this cornfield,

meaning I never went too much further past that. Very creepy. We thought that was kind of odd. People would be out there. Anybody would be out there on barefoot in the snow and in the creep. So there's my occurrence. I absolutely believe it, and I absolutely know in my heart that they're out there.

And if I could even get half a dozen people here, I'm sure that we should get evidence of this stuff, especially in Starkey. And like I said, you can look it up. Maybe you can get a freedom of information, something to see of what Starkey's Bigfoot reports are. I don't know how you go about doing that. But the guy's name was a pretty cool guy named Gabriel.

He was one of the Rangers out there. He was telling me all about this stuff with a little 65-year-old lady. I told him about my sighting that I had out there. And I don't really like to bring my kids out there anymore. I take him to the playground. We don't go venturing on the bike paths. We don't get down to the hiking trails. We just stick to the main road where there's traffic

and where there's a playground. It's probably a good plan. Yeah, I don't want to take my kids out there again. It feels like they're baked when I take them out there, and it's not a real comforting feeling. Dave, after your experience going hunting, did you stop hunting after that? No, I still like hunting, but I don't like hunting alone.

I won't go hunting alone. My brother doesn't hunt alone now after that incident of that thing coming up underneath my tree stand. I'd love to go up to Portland to be able to pull pictures up and take pictures of that mess if it's still there. but that was one of the craziest things I ever seen. It was like an igloom, made of vegetation. It wasn't like branches and limbs and everything.

It was like reeds and grass and everything else all woven in together to make this perfect igloose. Yeah, I'd like to see a picture of that if you get back up that way. Yeah, I'm absolutely playing on it. I've been trying to get my brother to go out there, but he can't get nobody to hike back with him with two miles on state land to go do it. You know, I'm happy you could take a canoe or something down to ground

and get off the same spot, but getting somebody to do something that's 11-30 miles away, is a little bit of a pain at times. And he's not interested in that anyhow. He's, you know, more scared of it than anything. He did research and crap up there, and he started getting all freaked out about this dogman thing that they talked about up in Michigan since he saw that. He doesn't go hunting by him, so I'm down here in Florida where I thought everything was, you know, cool.

I know what down here is bad, you know, you don't go swimming in the ocean because of sharks, and you don't go swimming in the freshwater because of the water because of the, alligators so there's not a whole lot down here it's kind of cord in any direction you go right that's my story fellas um it's been ridiculous i told a couple different people and i get this beer in the headlights just start staring off into space like are you serious i mean i'm a very sharp individual i have perfect vision there is no way i misinterpreted what i saw and there's nothing in stark you that i should have to look up a foot in the air at i'm six foot tall i'm 200 pounds this thing dwarfed me like a little kid.

And I took off running this fast as anything you've ever imagined. Yeah, I believe you. Boy, I appreciate you sharing, Dave. Appreciate you coming on and sharing your encounter. Absolutely. Very interesting. Yeah, thank you, Dave. Oh, you're welcome.

Let you take a look at that Facebook thing. Are you going to send that to you, Woody, Wes? Yeah, please do. I will. I'll send that picture. Do you tell me, I don't know what we can do about the pictures on it because I zoomed in on it. And a couple of people on my friend's list said that they could see a face.

And I call it other people are, you know, the same deer in the headlights hillbilly thing. Yeah, please send it over. I wonder if, would it be okay if I posted on the fan page? Brother, you can post it wherever you like. Well, yeah, please send it. Definitely a face. You can see a brow. You can see the skin.

The skin is shiny. You can see the hair line. You can see the eyes and the nose. And you can see the back on the other side of the tree. I don't see how there's any mistake in it. I see it perfectly. Yeah, be sure you can't let me, too, Wes. Yeah, I will.

Okay, I absolutely will. As soon as I get home. Cool. Thank you so much, Dave. Hey, thank you, fellas. And I love your podcast. I probably got every episode recorded on my iPhone. And, you know, I listen to it because it's comforting to hear other people have similar accounts to what I was. It's hard to talk, find anybody that wants to listen or will even appreciate the honesty that you're trying to give them.

Well, you're not alone. And believe me, nobody here is laughing about you. Yeah, and that's what I was hoping with you guys. You know, like I said, I listen to all your podcast. podcast and stuff. I'm a huge fan. I think you guys do great work. And if people glaborated and they work together, I don't think this thing would be a mystery too much longer.

Exactly. Well, said. Well, cool, man. Thank you so much. Oh, thank you guys. And you have a good one. It was nice talking to you. Nice meeting, everybody. You guys have a good night. Well, he had some pretty interesting accounts. I was thinking of questions. And he just kept going and going. Yeah.

Yeah, he covered all the bases. Yeah, it's like, let me, let me, let's just sink in. You know, sometimes I'm like that. It's like, I've got to think about things for a while before the questions come. That igloo was really, that would be really creepy to come upon something like that. You know, I'll tell you what, our friend Wynn, and on the Flathead Reservation in western Montana found something very similar to that. The location was odd. It's not where, you know, people would build some kind of a thing like that. It's, I heard that in Bigfoot. I can't say it's not possible. And we don't know, again, you know, with a different one,

might actually build things like that, whereas the other ones, you know, never do. But the dimensions were similar, like to where you get to four or five people in there? Well, yeah, he said it was pretty big. I can't wait to get the picture from them. Yeah, it'll be interesting. All right, guys, we want to thank everybody for coming on all of our guests tonight to all of our listeners, of course. And we will see you guys next time. Across the country, faster than the coronavirus and Wagering Week is your antidote.

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