Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:52 Yowie Encounter

Episode Date: October 2, 2014

Tonight we speak with Jamie from Australia who had a scary encounter with a Yowie (Sasquatch). Jaime says the creature bumped the back of his car. Jamie has several details about his encounter we have heard before. We also will be discussing a Missing 411 case we discussed a few shows back. Finally, we will welcome Doug to the show who heard Sasquatch chatter.

When I had come down this hill, I had seen this creature cross the road. It would have ripped my locked door from my truck, extracted me from my vehicle, and there wouldn't have been a damn thing I could have done about it. Look, this thing I got to notice in his eyes. His eyes was real, real evil, real sinister looking. You know, the look it was giving me. Number one, what are you reporting? What he out here?

What's going on now, sir? That's the son of a bitch is about 6'4.9. I don't know. Yes, I'm looking right in. Welcome to Bigfoot Hot Spot Radio. Sasquatch Chronicles. I'm your host, Wes, along with my brother Woody, and researcher, author, and friend, William Jeffey. Let's start the show. It's funny. I had posted that video about David Pilates. Am I saying his last name right? You say it Pilates, or how do you say it? You know, I don't know. I always kind of mess it up when I say it, so I'm not really sure.

Yeah. I'm not sure that I've even heard anybody pronounce it. Yeah, it's funny. He posted, he sent me a private. message. I posted a video on our Facebook fan page about this case. I'm going to play for you here in a second. It's funny. He was saying that he sent me a private message asking me to moderate the comments, you know, go through and monitor everyone's comments and because he felt like he was being attacked. I went through and looked at him. You know, to be honest with you, how many times do you and I get attacked, Will, on our own Facebook page?

You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, you know, what gets me is like, okay, now that was from a show he did, wasn't it? Yeah, it was a show he did with Howard Hughes. And it was the case of... Go ahead. So it was his own comment, you know, that was for whatever wording he chose to use and how he phrased his information he put out there,

people make comments about it. You know, he attacks us for putting the post out, but we didn't say any of that. It was just, you just posted it and people made comments. So why the attack on us? That's usually kind of a, you know, if you're that nitpicky about something, you know, if you're that unsure of what you're saying, then you're a little defensive. You know, maybe there's something wrong with what you're saying. I mean, people disagree with you and I all the time will on our Facebook fan page.

We have a lot of flu players on there that come on and they'll post different comments that Sasquatch is our buddy. You know, we're the mean guys of the Bigfoot community because, which, again, I don't quite understand because we just have people tell their encounters. Right. But it's funny that... Yeah, we're presenting the material. Yeah, exactly.

I read some of the things he said on that thread, and these guys are all hide in with this, this interdimensional forest friends, you know, and they defend this stuff that he was defending when I'm referring to as Melva Ketchum. And, you know, that whole thing is a huge can of

and I was all by its ones. You know, and I've said this before in the show, you know, initially, I was kind of open mind and I even offered to assist her before I knew anything about what she was doing with that DNA study, you know, for whatever my two cents would be worth. And she said,

you know, never heard from her, which is fine. As this went on, and it wasn't just one person who told me there were a number of people that were involved with her in that whole thing, there were her pals. As this went on, it got crazier. You know, it started out with, you know, my question was, you know, about the chain of evidence in collecting the samples they used for DNA tests

and contamination, and those are all very legitimate concerns. And then it went on to where she claimed she had this group habituating on one of her properties, you know, her business, the DNA business had an F-rating with the Better Business Bureau. She claimed on her properties where the big group were habituating that she was both mentally and physically raped by numerous of these beings. And then the last thing that I heard was that they're claiming that Sasquatches have alien DNA as from space.

you know and at that point I was done listening to this stuff it's all a farce it's all absolute nonsense and I don't care how much they all push how legitimate it could be whether it's Dave Collier

Melva Catcher or any of those supporters they're all fruitcakes well the thing with David you know I mean he was saying that people were attacking him like on a criminal saying he was criminal

and all this other stuff and I went back and read all the comments I told them, hey, if someone's out of line, I'll go through and I'll remove their comment. And I generally don't like to do that. If I got upset by, if you go to Bigfoot Hot Spot Hot Spot Radio or fan page on Facebook, if I got upset by every, you know, every little knock at me or every little knock at you or every little knock at Shannon, I'd go nuts, man. I would be upset 24-7.

And you know, the bottom line is if people have a right to their own opinions, Absolutely. You know, and those fan pages, that's kind of a place for people to speak their mind, you know, and talk to one another and talk about various aspects of what we're doing or something else in the community. And they have every right to say that as long as they're not abusive. Right. And that's what I was trying to express to them was, hey, man, you know, if I went through and deleted every comment that upset me, you know, I'd be deleting comments.

But you're right. I mean, people have their own, their right to their own opinion. They can post what they want. As long as it's not way out of line, it's not abusive. I think a guy called this A-Holes for not doing a show last week. And I left his comment there, you know. And by the way, I'll apologize to the audience for no show last weekend. We've been doing a lot of these.

and I want to get to it, but we've been doing a lot of these video interviews, which are really cool. And when I play the Yaui interview, you'll kind of understand why it's kind of cool to see this on video. The guy had some hair that he had found, and he had pulled it out, and he was showing us the hair. It was the creepiest hair I've ever seen. I don't think I've ever seen the hair like this before.

Yeah, it should be very interesting to the audience to see that. before I get to the interview with Jamie from Australia that had the Yowie encounter and he had a pretty terrifying encounter and I wanted you to hear this encounter Will and I wanted to get your take on it but before I actually play that interview I want to play this for you this was on the unexplained with Howard Hughes and this is David Pilates we had talked a lot about Colin Fidigay I hope I'm pronouncing his last time right I apologize if I'm not but he's a football player that disappeared.

And this is about a nine-minute interview. I wanted to play it for you real quick and get your take on it. This is a gentleman that disappeared in Michigan. This is where we spent us in the original phone. Really important of the area. Really, really unusual stuff. And bumpy, very tall, he's six foot, two inches, 240 pounds. And when he played a couple of games and said,

you know what, you're stopping a lot of these guys. Let him hit me, and I'm big enough. I can take care of myself. It can hurt me in his life. Anything. Briefly, prose ended up marrying a weekend. That's the last weekend in May. This Baldwin River, Colin went in alone.

And at about 927, the quote was, he was usually what he said in a franticone, and immediately hung up. Now, 936 was, and he said he was able to get him. 1037, a deputy bonds, he starts telling him. This is a pretty, you'd think, well, this deputy did a lot of good that the a cell phone company, and he asked him to ping the phone, and it gave them, they gave the deputy four different locations. Now, I got four different local, three, seven, five, within minutes of each other.

How can you, unless you're being flown or in a helicopter or a jetpack or something, you can't do that. Exactly. It's impossible to get to those. Is that each one of those locations crosses a paved road. So, meaning, Colin would have easily. We found a road, infided raining, and it rained hard. It was big news in this area.

Push one belief over another, but one of the reports they got from a native to them that Colin, on the 28th, his body was found, like you said, photos on that, and they're gory. And gory meaning there was no obvious sign. When they rolled him over, he was... The unusual part to me is, I'm a fisherman. And when you were a waiter, supports for the... From these... I can't believe any fisherman.

And Cullen's body was a university. and the original coroner's drug in his system, they couldn't figure out a cause it. The New York Times, nobody wants to address a few key points. I don't think people, how is he able to treat? On these kind of things,

our ultimate healer. Good Lord. And so it's in a book for her to read about if she wants to, but the sad fact of the matter is that a case like that needs to be picked up and run with by somebody because there are too many inexplicable facets to it and nobody's doing that. I think that's the thing that I find most

shocking. It's a terrifying case and he was obviously a big and well-liked guy. What an awful, awful thing to have to park like that. I don't know if I was the wife or a family member, it would dementia day and night, wouldn't it? I think it would for me, but so you and I are pretty good understanding. A common person, he, you know, maybe he had mental illness approach. Well, it seems, Dave, that people are extrapolating a lot of stuff, but not looking at the evidence that they can find. And the evidence is, look at the way that those waiters, the supports for them were twisted, and look at those, the readings from his cell phone. And that couldn't have happened. Those are the things they should be looking at, not trying to speculate whether he, you know, had any issues of any kind.

It seems weird. It seems like someone somewhere wants to try to find some kind of explanation so we can close the book on this. I gave a talk in 2012 in front of the biggest search and rescue organization in the world, Nassar. And there was at the end of my talk room who wanted to talk. Again, I just stayed in the humanities. And there was in the meeting in the middle of the presentation, they stood up and they said, you know, each of these guys had been on any of these, had the elements that I explained, and they knew that something. And one of the things that we may say is that Bigfoot exists, but nobody really wants to acknowledge that fact.

And that's just one element of the stories that you tell. Oh, sure. And I think that when you get these people, many letters from church and rescue people that say, yeah, Dave, this happened to us and blah, blah, blah, nobody wants to talk about. Interesting case. What did you think, Will? Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, I, you know, had some people send the article, that article a few months ago. The one thing you didn't mention, when you talked about some different particulars, you know, it took the corners three months to come up with. Their conclusion was he drowned. You know, the question was, why would it take them that long to come up with a conclusion to drown? That's something that's fairly common.

They would know that right away. And that particular situation, he said, was like a unique one. It really isn't. There was another case very similar. And the similar here in California, a couple of firefighters of camping. One got up in the middle of the night. The dog was going crazy. And he took off, barefoot.

The body was found 1,200 feet in elevation above the campsite. And the similarity, why I say that case wasn't unique with a football player, it was the fact that Polygas didn't mention that his body was found would brush over it. There is something going on. You know, I don't know about you talked about the background of that area. You know, lots of weird things gone older or not. You know, you can't want to jump to conclusion. You know, you can speculate all kinds of things can happen,

but without any sort of direct chain of events or witness or evidence or something linking the two, I wouldn't, you know, just because somebody disappears and never found again, I would do that unless there was, you know, something a little more tangible to it. Yeah, good point. Strange, nonetheless so. Very strange. But, you know, in this case, it could very well have been one. And I think the one here in California may have been also because of that one detail with the brush being piled on. So, I mean, we don't know. We heard Bob Garrett talk about that in Texas also.

Yeah, it's interesting. The river that David had mentioned, in the video I had posted on our Facebook fan page, I had put in pictures of that river. And it's not really a fast-moving river, man. It's pretty shallow. You know, it kind of reminds me of the Clark River that we have over in Oregon.

It's real, you know, that they claim all these people tend to drown in. Not one that's likely to be drowned somebody drowned in Yeah not likely to be Oh I was just going to comment about the time frame that he mentioned You know going miles in just a minute Now even as fast as the Sasquatch is I kind of have a problem with that Yeah that seemed really fast to me

What was it? 4.7 miles Yeah, a little too quickly Yeah it just doesn't it doesn't sound right That's a pretty pretty heavily wooded area too where he disappeared Yeah Yeah, exactly. Well, I wanted to jump ahead to this interview that we did with Jamie from Australia. And I know you're working at the time, Will, but I wanted you to hear this interview.

And again, I'll be posting this video on our Facebook fan page under Big Co-Hauspot Radio. Listen to this interview. Jamie sure pulls out a lot of details that, a lot of little things that we've heard of in the past. But I wanted to get your take on it, Will. But we're speaking with Jamie from Australia who had, I want to say, a couple of YOWI encounters, both Class A, Class B type sightings. But go ahead, Jamie, take it away and tell us about the first time you had an encounter. The first time I had was late November 2013, which is only recently.

We go up to our national park, get there about 5 in the afternoon, and we always cook a barbecue. For this particular day, I was there by myself because my mate comes with me couldn't make it. So I'm there, I cook the bar tube and I'm eating my hamburger. And it's on top of a lookout, on top of a ridge area. And I can hear these voices down in the valley below talking really fast, but I couldn't understand it. I've called out to let whoever it was down there know I was there because they do have hunters in their shoes. and feral pigs from time to time.

As soon as I yelled out, they just went silent. And the whole bush, everything just stopped. Like, it was just absolutely silence. About an hour and a half later goes on, and there's just absolutely no noise whatsoever. And then by this time, it's getting dark because it's around 7 o'clock.

By this time, I get out my spotlight, and I'm just looking around, and then I spot some yellow eyeshine probably 50, 60 metres down in the gully below in the trees and that. So I'm just standing there with my spotlight right on it and this thing

is just staring straight back at me. So I'm just holding my light on it to try and catch it move or blink and then nothing. So this went on for a good 30 minutes me just standing there with my light straight on these eyes. So then I've done, I do a full circle scan and I've turned around and then I've looked up down the road and there's this big tree

and that's when I've seen this thing just standing there by the tree out in the open and this thing was massive. It just stopped me dead in my tracks. I just froze. So I'm standing there and I'm holding my. my light right on this thing and it was huge, it was really big, hairy, like, wasn't short hair, it was real long, shabby-looking browny, reddy, sort of a grey tinge to it. So I'm standing there and I shine the light up and down this thing, and it just stood

down and just, I was just dumbfound out. I didn't know what to make of it. So I'm just standing there with my light on it and then I've gone to do another 360 degree scanning and then I noticed there was another set of eyes that's smaller compared to the first set in the same spot where I've seen them previously and then I've gone back to where the thing was standing and it was gone so then I've sort of about three or five seconds goes past and then I hear thump, thump, and then this almighty howl. It was so long and loud I could feel it.

But it wasn't a howl of sight. It was like the letter R being held really, really long. And then I just, I was in shock basically. I didn't know what to make of it. and I just threw all my stuff in the back of the car, and I started to drive off down the road. I was actually shaking because I think I was in a bit of shock because I was there by myself.

And then about 100 metres down the road, it's a really rocky terrain, and I'm just going probably 20 kilometers now because it's an off-road track, and I felt something sort of shunt, like push the back of the car, and I've touched my brake so I can see the red lights behind me, and I couldn't see any of them. So I just kept going, and I thought,

I'm not getting out to have a look because I'm by myself, and I've already heard something that I can't explain, and I've seen this, and I'm just thinking, there's no way that anyone's going to believe me. I tried to tell my wife and kids the next day, and they're sort of all laughing at me, yeah, short dad, whatever. Jamie, how many creatures do you think were around you that night? Looking back, I mean, just a rough estimate.

Well, I'd say there was two. There was a big one that I've seen, and then there was another set of eyes, but they were smaller compared to the first set of eyes on the same spot. Now, when you shun the light on that one that was by the tree, How big do you think the creature was? Well, we've actually been back to the same spot during the day, and my mate, Louis, he's six foot tall,

and we estimate to where the eyes were, it was seven and a half feet just to where the eyes were. Oh, wow. Because where we stand, it's up on top of the hill, and you're looking down the gully. So whatever it was, it was big. And I've had people tell me it was a cow, because there is cows running through the bush there.

There's wild horses. wild dogs, there's dingoes, pigs. And I keep saying to everyone, unless a horse or a cow can stand on its hind legs, that's what the height of this thing was. And the one incident with the car, it was actually trying to pull the car as you were driving or it was pushing the car as you were driving slowly back through there?

It just felt like something come up behind the car and just sort of just went a slight, shunt on the back of the car. Wow. And then the next time I went up there, I took my son because he didn't believe me. And I said, well, if you don't believe me, come with me. And he did. Same thing again.

We get to have a barbecue, wait for it to get dark, and then we get the lights out and we start looking around. He spotted it first. He says, Dad, there's something down in that bush with yellow eyes looking at me. And I said, don't worry, mate. That's what we've been talking about. And that's what I want to show you. so you can tell people that you've seen it as well as me.

And then he got freaked out straight away. And then we're looking around. And then there's another set up on top of the hill. Like the car's in the middle. There's one set down the hill and there's another set up the hill standing there just looking at us. And then we could smell this bad smell all of a sudden. It was just like something was dead.

It just wafted past and that was gone. We stayed there for about 40 minutes and then he just said Dad, I want to go home because this is too freaky and I said well fair enough mate you've seen it so you can tell people and to get out of there back to the main road it's another 40 minute drive through the National Park

and we get probably halfway and I noticed that my son's sitting really stiff in his seat and he's not moving and I said to him what's wrong and he didn't answer me And then when we got to the bottom of the park, once we were driving out of the National Park, he came to me and says, Dad, couldn't you hear that thing running in the car in the bush beside us? He goes, I could hear it breathing. He goes, I didn't tell you because you would stop and want to get out and have a look.

I didn't hear it. I didn't see it, but that's exactly what my son told me. And that just absolutely blew me away, I thought. And was this late? You guys were driving out? Yes. Okay. Yeah, it's always about 10, 30, 11 o'clock at night is when we leave.

Because we usually get there around 4 in the afternoon and then we stay because it gets really cold up there, so we don't like to stay too long. And this happens shortly after dark, at least the last two incidents were shortly after dark. Every time after dark, probably the sun will go down and then because it's a really dense tree area up there. So as soon as the sun goes down, it gets dark really quick. And then always you see the eyes looking at you. And how busy is this national park if the weather is nice?

Is it a busy place? During the day, you can get a lot of people up there. Like, I went up there through the day by myself to have a look around. I counted there was 15 cars that went past me. But during the night, we've only ever had one other. the car come up there and that's it. There's no one else that goes up there at night except us. And have you heard other reports of incidents up there?

People seen things? There has been other reports in the region, but not in that particular spot. I've heard from anywhere else. I've asked around and everyone thinks I'm crazy. I'm kind of curious. Aren't you worried a little bit, Jamie, going up there since you can't carry a gun in Australia. You can't go up there with a gun? No, we haven't had any signs of aggression whatsoever, but you do feel nervous and I do feel anxious, especially when I go there by myself.

Because no one wants to come with you. I've only got one mate that will come, but he's a single parent, so there's only certain times he can come. Where we've seen it stand, there's a barbed wire fence and we've seen there's a track wave where something. goes through there quite often and there's a lot of pushed over small trees that are snacked probably at my eye height and pointed back and that all these trees are pointing in the direction exactly where we stand and the same spot where this trailer is it crosses an old barbed white fence and we actually found hair which is which was about 200 millimetres long and

it was the same color as the thing that I was seen. There was black. There was orangey red and gray color in these hair samples that we pulled off the fence. What did you do with the hair? I've got it here. Can you see it? A little bit, yeah. Oh, it's really dark, isn't it?

It's really dark, and it's like... So I want to stop the interview right there. And I posted that on our Facebook fan page under BigBub. Ball House of Radio. I really wish our normal website was up. It'll be up here shortly. But what he actually done will is he had pulled out this hair in the way, and I'll describe it for the listeners.

It's kind of a reddish, brownish hair, a foot long. It kind of reminds me of a pubic hair. It's real stringy. It's real wiry. And he had several of them, but it's just an odd hair, man. I don't think I've ever seen hair like this before.

You know, the two Sasquatches that I saw up close, and we were talking earlier, how, you know, I mentioned that I think a lot of people will, there are particular things in an encounter that will sort of stick out in your mind, you know, as opposed to other things, and it might not be what the average person would think. To me, for my own, was I noticed a lot of detail about the hair. And what he describes is a lot like what I saw.

on those two creatures. And everything he said was very, very characteristics, all the particulars of the encounters we have in this country. Yeah, it was interesting about him talking about it bumping his car on his way down. You know, I actually had something similar that happened years ago like that. A friend and I were up in an area not far outside of Fort Lewis where a lot of sightings happen. We're pretty sure we don't know. Well, actually, we did consider her handmarks in the desk.

where one who actually grabbed the back of the car and sort of let go when we decided to take off. But, you know, so occasionally they will bump cars, push cars, grab cars. That's not uncharacteristic. Yeah, it's interesting. I will, here, let me play the, let me continue with the interview here. Wow. That's the length of the...

Here, hold it up one more time. Yeah, I'm going to turn the camera on you. Here, hang on one second. Go ahead and hold it up a lot of hair, Jamie. That's what we caught off the fence, exactly where I've seen it standing. Oh, my goodness. That's some really long hair, Jamie. I know.

And I sent some samples to a fellow researcher here in Australia, and he looked at it under the microscope, and he said it didn't match anything that he could find on his database that he's cross-examined. He said that it looked familiar to. to cattle hair that had human characteristics. And I sent him a message back and he never got back to me because I didn't understand what he meant by that.

So I'm just going to hang on to it and hopefully try and get someone else to look at it. I'm kind of curious. When you got the hair off of the fence, the bar bar bar-bar fence, I want to ask you a question about the bar-bar fence. Did you notice any spots in that fence to where it looked? like something had propped it open to either go through the bar barbeder fence or did you notice

any debris on top of the bar bar bar fence like it was easier to get over it when we first went there it was an old barbeder fence and it was still up and then when we went back i think like a month later the fence had been pushed totally down to the ground level and there was a a big tree that had looked like he had fallen over the fence line but there had been pushed totally down to the ground level You could see there had been a lot of something going through because all the grass was flat. You can see the track perfectly on where whatever was going through there. What did the tracks look like, Jamie? Just the ground was flat.

It wasn't cattle because when the cattle go through it, you'll see like the hoof marks on the ground. It was just flat. There was no sort of animal marks or anything. The ground was just flat. So nothing really defined? No, footprint. No. The second time we went up there, before I had my siding,

we did find a footprint and it was, we didn't have a tape so it was about 15, 16 inches long and it was about six and a half inches across the top of the foot. But because the ground's so hard up there, we got there just after it rained and all the soft dirt on top, you see the imprint on top of the dirt.

And then we walked up the road back to where we always stand, and we've seen smaller ones which look like the size of a 10-year-old kid. All bare footprints. Jamie, what's the water situation around that park? Is there any lakes or streams? There's plenty of water. There's a stream that runs through the whole park, and there's probably three or four big dams all the way up along the track

because it used to be an old logging road that they used to cut all the timber down up there. And that logging road is still not very overgrown at all? Like it'd still be easy to walk down for the most part? Oh, the road that we drive to get where we get is actually on the logging road. Oh, that's a loggerna, okay. Yeah. And it runs right through over the range and goes right out west. Yeah, it's kind of a central Washington, Shannon.

It's kind of, I know when you think Australia, I think, well, I was going to say we as Americans, maybe it's just me. You think of kind of like a desert. A little area. Yeah. And it's not like that. It's actually kind of reminds me of central Washington. It's kind of a high desert, but there's a ton of foliage. I mean, tons of trees, tons of, is it pine trees?

Jamie, is that what they mainly have there? There is further south. There's more pine trees, but up here it's more eucalypt trees and the hard redwood trees. Yeah. And then in the same place I was telling you about those stick breaks, like we'll be up there at night and you can hear, I reckon that's only, it's very close to us,

probably 20 metres away and you'll hear snap. And then we'll stop and you hear us on the recorder. say, did you hear that? And then we'll turn and look. And then you'll hear behind us. You'll hear another snap. And then it all goes quiet. Yeah, very interesting how he describes,

you got to see the area, Will. The area is very, he sent me pictures of it. And it's very, it reminds me of central Washington. It's not, you know, it's not the desert you think of when you, when you think Australia. It's actually kind of like a. high desert, kind of a jungle area that he's gone into. You know, it's interesting.

He talked about the snapping, you know, on different sides of them being bracketed, just like what we hear here. You know, like it's almost like they're maneuvering in position around him. Yeah, and that's kind of the impression that he had when we had talked to him. You know, it's interesting. In Australia, they actually can't carry guns. You can get a permit for, like,

certain couple days and you can go out and hunt like wild boar or anything like that, but you can't just carry a firearm on your side for protection or for, you know, it has to be for a specific reason, which I thought was kind of fascinating and scary in the same breath that he's going up there with his family and he doesn't really have a way. I mean, initially the behaviors might be benign, but then, you know, as things progress, you know, the character of that relationship could change. And it's interesting, and I'll play the rest of the interview, but when he talked about the iShine,

you know, I had posted a video on the fan page with this, and I know you and I talked about it earlier, about these dogs going crazy, and this guy is standing out there with the light, and he's filming it with his iPhone, and it's probably what, maybe 100 yards from them? Right. Very, very, very creepy video.

Oh, yeah. But it reminds me of Jamie talking about his encounter and seeing this eye shine. Yeah, it does. Well, let me continue with the interview here. Jamie, I wanted to ask you, did you, since you've gone back up, so you've had one sighting of the creature when you flashed light at it? Yep. And you've gone up since then.

Have you had any more encounters? I think you and I talked about the chatter at one time, didn't we? Yeah, that was that chatter I was talking about at the start. I was standing on top of rocks there and you could hear it was like a it's really hard to explain it's just I couldn't understand

it was really fast and from I can gather what from what I can gather from what I heard it was someone telling someone to do something it was sort of like

I don't want to do it because I'll sound like an idiot just do it Yeah, you won't sound like an idiot. It was just sort of like, oh, blah, blah, blah, over there. And I could sort of catch the end of it, like, over there. And I thought, that's weird. So I thought, I better call out in case it's hunter shooting pigs

because I don't want to get shot because I'm up here by myself and they probably think no one's here at night. But as soon as I called out, everything stopped, like, there was birds in the trees and stuff going on. and the place just went absolutely silent. And that was just really strange. And we have heard too late at night where you can hear the cows, or just on dust you'll hear the cows,

they moo out loud to each other when they're going home, back to where they sleep, I guess. And then we heard this cow move, and it was like more a distress sound from the cow. and then we heard this this long a hair like a

but it just went on for like 35, 40 seconds the sound like it was trying to mimic the cows yeah it was just it just sounded wrong but it was so strange at the same time and it didn't resemble anything

that should be up there but it was way off in the distance yeah with the the sticks being broken, you'll hear the snap and then you'll hear like a thump on the ground and just all weird stuff like that. And last time we're up there, because I've got a night vision monocular scope, and it's got infrared on it. So we think every time we pull that out, we do see the ice shine.

They seem to be a long further away. And we had this thing out and first off, we're using it. by hand and it's really hard to focus. So we put it on a tripod and it works perfect. And then it was about quarter to 11 at night and we were just about packing up to go home and I was looking through this thing at the trees down to where we always see them stand and I seen an eye looking back at me. But the yellow, the eyes we usually see is like a yellow shine.

But this eye was brown in the middle and sort of a yellowy, off-white colour on the background. Because on my camera, it's really good up to 140 metres night vision. Like, it's really good. Whatever it was, it was looking back at me, but this thing wasn't like the first thing I've seen. It was just completely like a really shiny black and had like a mullet style straight across the top. haircut, down, but I could only see half of its face behind the tree. And as I'm looking at it, it's like this thing smiled and then I've seen its teeth. And the one thing that stood out to me was it had perfect teeth.

They were bigger than human teeth, but perfect and all square. So I said to my mate, lawyer, I said, have a look at this and tell me what you see. and he's looking and then he said, I see what you're looking at, and then he says nothing, and then he turns to me and he says, well, I think it's time that we should go home.

So we packed up and went home and called that a night. And I've told people that, and that was the last time we're up there, that was only four weeks ago. People just, like on Thursday I was telling someone, and the bike just laughed right on my face, And I said, well, you can either believe me or you can't, but this is what I've seen. My mate's seeing that.

You know, it's interesting that you mentioned the color of the eyes. I've heard that probably now at least 20 times. And the guy last week we had on the show from New York, that's how he described it. He said their eyes really aren't white. When you look at their eyes, it's more of they have like the brown. And then on the outside of the eyes, it's more of a yellow. yellowish, not really white is what he was saying. But I've heard that so many times.

Well, people who've had up close encounters with them, they'll say that their eyes really aren't white. They're more of a yellow, kind of a yellow color. Even now telling you, it still feels unbelievable that I've seen this scene. Kind of interesting. He talks about the yellow eye shine, or the yellow, what normally would be the white part of our eyes being kind of a yellow color. Right, a little yellowish.

Yeah, and I know the guy last week talked about that. Yeah, I don't think that's out of line. I mean, look at a lot of the higher primates. Gorillas and chimps are kind of like that, too. So I think it's right in line with what a primate would be. Yeah, there's a lot of little details that he has with these different encounters that it's hard to dismiss, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah, absolutely.

No, it's a very good account. lot of the great details. And like I said, I was listening to all the different particulars of behaviors and things. And I was just going, there's one, there's one, there's one. And thinking of all the different accounts here that match right up, right exactly with those. The last part of the interview is where he talked about taking his family up there camping. And it's about five minutes left of the interview. But I wanted to play it for you to hear some of the behaviors and get your take.

on it. But when we went back in camp there, we've walked up this track and then we actually, we got chased by the wild horses. They're called Brumbies up there and these horses chases for 45 minutes and had us pinned and every time we tried to move, the horse had run straight at us and snort and throw its head and kick and it was running around, just had us track. And then we finally got out of there and I thought that was strange. but the whole time this is going on,

I kept saying to my wife and kids, look around to see if anything's watching us. And even my wife, she's a skeptic, and she says, I couldn't see anything, but I could feel it. We finally got away from him, got back to camp, cooked our dinner, waited, the sun went down,

and then we're all just sitting around the campfire, just being outside, because my kids, that's the first time they've had a, been camping and they just throw on sticks and fire having fun and we're talking and my wife and my daughter went to bed about 8.30 and because I don't drink my wife had had a few beers and she was in the tent and she was snoring about another hour goes past and we're sitting there my son goes well I'm going to go to bed dad and said no I'd prefer if you stayed up with me mate because I don't like sitting here by myself and then he went to get up and then we heard a growl

like behind our tent probably 20 metres away is where the bush track starts so we're sort of back right onto the bush and he says did you hear that dad and I said yeah I did but don't worry about it mate it's nothing and then I went and got the spotlight

and got the spotlight out and then we looked in the bush and then 50 metres away we see these yellow eyes crouching down at the top of the grass level which is probably five foot just staring at us

and I said there they are mate and he goes yeah I know that's that bloody thing again in that and he's going I'm going to bed I'm not staying here so he went to bed and I stayed up and then I looked again and it was gone so then I stayed up to all the firewood was burned and then I put water and the fire put it out and went to bed and we took our little puppy we got a jack russell puppy and he was only like 10 weeks old so he was in the tent and he was winging. By this time it was about 1 o'clock in the morning and it just started

to just rain and then so I took him outside because I thought he wanted to do a week so I took him out come back in and then I'm laying there in bed I couldn't sleep because I knew that something was in the bush watching us

and then I'm laying there and I must have dazed off and I wake up and it was like I think quarter past 2 in the morning. I'm I'm laying now I could hear something hitting the tent on the roof above us and I'm telling myself, you're only freaking yourself out is just sticks blowing out of the trees and landing on the tent. And then I laid there for another 20 minutes and I thought myself, well sticks don't fall

in the one spot continuously. They were all hitting in the same spot on top of the tent. So I've got out to have a look around. couldn't see anything. And then I went back in and it happened again. And I just thought, I was actually a big concern because I had my family and that. I'm thinking, what are you doing?

What? I've got my kids here, my wife's here. This is just crazy. So I woke everyone up. I thought of what I thought was going on. And I said, we're going home. I said, pack up everything, get in the car. I made the kids go sit in the car, lock the doors.

And me and my wife packed everything up, took us about an hour. and then when we got back in the car my wife turns to me and says could you hear that she says I could hear something banging two sticks together when you were rolling the tan up I said well why didn't you tell me

she goes well you look like you just wanted to get out of there so I didn't mention it yeah that was our camping trip there that's crazy I guess they got their way huh yeah I guess it was just a scared tactic thing but the whole time, every time something new happens, I keep thinking in my head, this is not real.

Like, how can this be happening? It's not real. But now I'm a firm believer. I'll tell people, I don't try and convince people, I just tell them on what I've seen and heard. And I'll say, if you want to believe it, you can. But nine times out of ten, people start mocking you and laughing and this and that. And then I'll turn around and say, well,

if it's such a joke, how about I'll take you up to where I've seen this happen and I'll show you. And they won't go with you, will they? One person has accepted my offer. That's right. Well, good for you, James. You know, I wanted to thank Jamie for coming on the show

and sharing his encounter. The guy is just one tough SOB, you know what I mean? I mean, this guy's not scared of anything. He can't go up there with a firearm. He takes his family up there camping. he's seen these creatures in the area. I mean, he's a full-blown addict, you know, as far as... That's pretty gutsy.

Yeah, it's very gusty, man. You know, maybe they make them tougher in Australia than they do in the U.S., I don't know. I remember when I was in the Army, and the Australian troops here, we got a chance to meet a lot of our allied soldiers, and they were some tough customers, let me tell you. I was very thankful to have our Australian friends, his allies. Yeah.

God help us if we ever go to war with Australia, huh? That's right. No, very, very tough, great people, you know. Jamie's like Clint Eastwood, man. He'll just go up there, you know, unarmed and take his family up. And, you know, he's seen the creatures up there. He knows they're up there. A tough, tough guy.

And very cool. And I wanted to thank him for sharing his encounter with us. Definitely. Yeah, he has an awesome, awesome story there. Yeah, very cool. What do you think about it throwing stuff on his tent? Kind of remind me of Minds Insities' encounter. Yeah, I think it kind of goes along with the rock throwing a little bit,

and throwing sticks. And again, just like chimps, you know, they'll throw things. You know, it's one of those primate characteristics. It's not something that we could think is a surprise is because primates do this kind of stuff. Yeah, interesting encounter. He's going up there next week. And, you know, I give him a...

Yeah, I wish some luck. I gave him a warning not to get too comfortable with the benign behavior that's going on that things can turn pretty quick. No, you think so you're exactly right, because that, you know, the character of that behavior could change suddenly. You know, if they're in the wrong mood

or he does something wrong, you know, in their eyes, it could change very drastically. Yeah. He's Australian, though. He'll probably be okay. Yeah, yeah. He'll throw something back at him, you know, tell him the bugger off, you know. Yeah, never mess with an Australian, I guess. That's right.

No, I really wanted to thank him again for coming on the show and sharing his encounter. And I'll be posting that full video to the Bigfoot Ospot Radio. fan page on Facebook. And, you know, you can get to all of the, it's about an hour long interview that we did with him. And it's just a really interesting, you know, he talked a lot about tree structures he's seen. He's seen the different, you know, we had talked about the X's at the Browns property. You know, the trees seem to form an X. And he said he had seen that in a few spots.

And right up to where he camps, he had seen broken trees. he's like snapped off limbs, almost leading right to where he camps. So he's seen a lot of things, man. And that hair was ridiculous. I'm going to have to, as soon as I get done editing and I post that video, you'll have to check out that hair, man.

It is the craziest thing I've ever seen. Yeah, I'll take a look. I already know from the description he gave me. It does sound like what I've seen myself, but that'll be fascinating to see it. Well, next on the show we have Doug. And Doug kind of had an interesting encounter where he heard what we call the samurai chatter. But I wanted Doug to go through and talk about his encounter and talk about what happened.

And I wanted to welcome Doug to the show. Hi, Doug. How are you this evening? Hey, I'm doing good. Well, West might talk a little bit about your encounter. But the first thing is just tell us what you knew about the subject. prior to the incident happened? My brother actually was pretty heavily into the subject and would talk to me about and stuff like that. Should we picture a few videos and stuff like that?

But I never really, I didn't think of how much weight, you know, wasn't anything I was too interested in myself. That's pretty much it. Seems, you know, had seen a few videos. You didn't really think too much of the subject? No, no, not really. Okay, so what were you doing prior to the M.N.? I was actually just hanging out at my uncle's house, which is where I was staying at the time, written out of a room from him, and I just got done eating from lunch.

It was about 12, 12, 30, something like that in the afternoon, and I decided to go take a walk, a place where my sister had told me about who actually lived, or lived at the time right behind my uncle on our family's property. I mean, just, you know, trying to go up and get it a little bit of solitude. I just moved back to North Carolina from Athens, Georgia. I just gotten out of a relationship. And I was going through some hard times. I was just going to get a piece of mind, walk out in the woods by myself,

time to myself. I decided to go take a walk to this waterfall that my sister came out. That's on a bigger creek that there's actually a smaller creek that runs along the side of the house. I was staying at the time, my uncle's house. and it runs into a bigger creek that has like smaller cascading waterfalls, like that, very pretty. I had not been out there before, so I decided to take a walk out there. To get there, you have to cross the smaller creek

and go through like a patch and cross a cow pasture. There's a bunch of cow out there. So I walk into the woods. After crossing the creek, you've got to hop over a barbeder fence. And as soon as I walk into the woods, I start kind of hearing this hamling town, which I thought was hammering. So I walked through this little section of woods into pasture area, walk across the pasture. I'm still hearing this noise.

From the section of woods over where the Baker Creek is that I was heading towards, so it's a little bit further away. It wasn't like right beside me at this point. And it was kind of, it was like a, it wasn't repetitive, like a hammering. It struck me as odd because it was like a bang, bang, bang, bang. So I walk over and cross this big pasture area and I cross into the next section of wood that lies on the other side walking towards this creek. I decide to kind of take a right. When I get into the woods, there's like a little pass APV trail.

I'm owners of the property used to go up and down and I guess, you know, put hay out and whatever for cows or, I don't know, farm and stuff. and this noise is still going on from my right and a patch of woods and it's really loud at this point and I'm trying to figure out what this is I'm starting to get a little freaked out

so I'm thinking you know maybe it's a woodpecker something like that but it wasn't like fast like woodpeckers do you know and so I turn to walk towards the noise just to see if I could see a woodpecker

or anybody there. And as soon as I turn to walk towards the noise, about maybe 50 feet or so in front of me, there's like a hill, and the sound comes from right over, like, pops me in my tracks, and I just kind of freeze, like paralyzed, you know, with fear.

It's kind of sounding like, I don't really know how to explain it, and then the shifted and it sounded more like a, Like, I thought that had me, devil sounds weird. But it was, uh, kind of, it didn't really sound that big, but it was enough to scare me because I'd never heard anything like that. Doug, did it, did it sound anything like this?

Somewhat, but it was, it sounded not as, like, big sounding. It wasn't so guttural. It was more of, like, a higher pitch, like, higher tone than that. Uh, but it's kind of similar to that. Um, which, after, like, you know, when you're out by yourself in the world, it's just going to hang out and get a peace of mind, and this happens. It's kind of a terrifying moment, you know.

I've been in a few pretty bad car wrecks, and you know how, I don't know if you've ever been in a car accident or anything. Like, your adrenaline just shoots up to, like, a high level, and it seems like time sort of slows down a little bit. Right. So that's sort of the feeling, well, that's the exact feeling that I had, which, you know, being out in the way, which by yourself is extremely scary.

But I, for some reason, you know, I had my phone on me, and there's actually a cell phone tower at the top of the pasture there, so that's service. But I reached my phone,

and my first reaction, who's working with his father-in-law at the time, let somebody, pretty much just to let somebody know that I was alone out there, and there was, like, it sounded like an animal that was about to be attacked,

or I didn't really know. It was just my first reaction. to do that. And so I call him as this is happening. Well, like right after it happens and I'm kind of backing away slowly thrown us and I didn't see anything

but I did and the knocking was still going on and then there was other knocking going on from another section like down close to the creek area so I'm just kind of freaking out so I call him and I'm kind of backing away and turn around and start walking faster and faster slowly coming to my wits back into the pastor so I could see everything around me.

And I'm talking to him and telling him what had happened and explained to him. I tried to make my best impression of what it sounded like and that there was like this crazy banging noise going on. There was nobody else out there. You know, I kind of give him the rundown of what was going on. And he just automatically was like, dude, I think that you just witnessed Sir around like Big Flood. or Sasquash or something.

I was like, no, I don't know. You know, I just assumed it was strictly like something that happened up

in like the Pacific Northwest from like stuff that he told me. I didn't realize it was something that had happened all over the United States.

What part of the country is this in? This is in North Carolina and a Piedmont area of North Carolina. Actually like about 40 miles or so,

45 miles you'd be in like Asheville, North Carolina. which is up in the Appalachians and then there's that's up where the Piscan National Forest is and Cherokee National Forest is like a whole lot of

just open mountain woods not too far away and the fact that you could follow like this creek is called Drowning Creek actually and it runs into the Catawba River which is also actually only about five or six

miles away from where I was living at the time I'm at my uncle's house, and there's, like, a big lake, a rotous lake, and a dam and everything over there. So, it's a big body of water. Yeah, so I, he tells me to, you know, try to get a picture or something, and I'm just like, this is too much from there in a death. Like, it's like, well, just walk back towards it, see if you can see anything. So I'm on the phone with him. I'm like, all right, man, stay on the phone, and I start walking back towards where it all happened. And as soon as I start doing that, there's just like a, I'm just really sort of banging.

sounding like to my just smack in a tree as hard as they can with something and at that point I'm just like okay screw this turn around

and get home like you know just run as fast as they can back to the house and up to my uncle's house where my sister was living she was pulling in

for her lunch break and so I'd be like right after it happened I talked to my brother and then I told my sister what it just happened she didn't really know how to take it

like she thought that she was like well maybe it was like a you had a coyote or something because there are coyotes out there. And, uh, well, maybe it was just like a wild pig or something.

I was like, no, there's no pink up there. Like, like, well, you sure it wasn't a cow or something? It's like,

Dana, no, like these crazy banging what he's going on. But she was just like, well, just calm down and, you know, I'm going to go take my lunch break

and whatever. She just kind of wrote it off, you know, I guess. not really knowing how to react. She could see that I was, like, distressed. She's like, just go grab a beer or something to chill out, you know. Break, leaves, whatever.

And my brother actually comes home about an hour later, and he convinces me to walk back down into the edge of the woods that's right by my house, not all over back to where we're going, because I'm too scared to go back out there. And he walks down. He's like, all right, watch this. He picks up the stick and just whacks up the stick and just waxed the tree really hard.

He's like, just hold on a second, listen. Sure enough, man, there was a knock that came back from, it sounded like it was a lot further away, like whatever was out there, it kind of skewed its way back up the creek, further away from, or maybe it was just, you know, another one further away, not the back.

But the first experience, later on that night, too, my brother and I went over to my sister's house, and I was kind of telling them, in the rundown of what had happened. And my brother was like, yeah, and I actually knocked on a tree after you left and, you know, heard something not back. And he was just, like, thrilled when I was just, you know, still kind of in shock. He was just really excited.

So I actually moved back down to Athens, Georgia for about another year, a year and a half or something. And I was right around the year because when I moved back, because I had moved back to Georgia and then came back to North Carolina to stay at that same house again. And it was actually around this time of year that all this was going down and all this happened. And the same time of year when the second encounter or experience happened, it wasn't really an encounter for me. So my little brother had recently turned 21, and he and his friend wanted to come down and hang out and build a fire up at my sister's house. And she's got like a chimney and like a little patio area in the back. and so we decided to hang out and have a few beers and have a fire. I went down to the edge of the woods where we have this brush pile

and was gathering sticks and stuff to start the fire and decided to clack a couple of them together just out of charyosogy, see if I could hear anything, get back. And while I was down in Georgia, you know, I didn't really think about any of the town that had happened because I was playing music and just doing a whole lot. much other stuff. Not really thinking about Bigfoot at all.

But when I came back, I was like, oh, yeah, dude, that was a terrifying experience and pretty crazy. I see if I can, you know, hear something again, you know, just as I guess a little bit of liquid curd or something on that. But, uh, so I hit a little sticks together or whatever and nothing back, so I don't really think anything of them, like, oh, well, whatever. Walk back up, uh, see my brother and his friend or, like, running live on beer. I walked back into the house to grab a couple more beers

and noticed that my bedroom window was still open from earlier than the day and it was starting to get chilly so I went to close it. When I walked up to the window, as soon as I walked up to the window, I heard this crazy sound, like crazy scream. Like it started out. It sounded like, like, you know, hitting your brakes and or somebody spinning the tires. And then it turned into, like, a, from that, it went to, like, a howl, like, a long,

elongated howl, and then down to, like, a real deep guttural, like, whoa. But it lasted for what seemed probably, like, 30 seconds or something, because I kept thinking, and it was, like, as it was happening, it's like, is this going to end? Like, it was just gone on so long. And I was just kind of frozen, like, what the hell was that, you know? And then as soon as it stopped, it was just quiet. And then I hear my brother and his friend, to my window is still open, I hear him going, what was that? And his friend's like, I don't know, man, I don't know.

So I run back outside and run up to the chimney where they're at, and they're just, like, losing it. They're like, what was that, dude? I was like, so y'all heard that too? And they're like, yes, we heard that. He sounded like a monster, dude. It sounded like a demon. And I was like, yeah, dude, I mean, I don't know what that was. Like, it was scary.

I knew that. And my sister actually comes up. This was probably about 11, 11.30, and she'd already gone to bed. She comes up and lifts up her window. And he's like, what was that guy? She's like, y'all freaking out. What's going on?

Like, was there a car crash? I was like, no, no. Because she had heard it too from the house. I mean, you could have heard this thing. I'm sure the neighbors had to have heard it. I didn't ask you. But it was just so loud and long. Like, just terrifying.

It did. It sounded like a monster that could only be created through like some sort of computer software or something. It's like nothing that I've ever heard before. But that was the second thing that happened. And from my window, this thing sounded like it was right at the edge of the wood.

That's probably only maybe 100 feet away or so. So now not only had something happened while I was by myself, you know, I was still feeling like that was something that had, I was still like questioning my sanity or something like that just because it was so out of the world, like weird. But that solidified my doubt and my denial, I guess, when my brother and my sister, we didn't see anything. There was no banging or knocking that night, but after that I stopped going down into the woods just because, you know, I didn't really want to run into whatever that was. It almost seemed like just threatening us or something like stay out of our...

Yeah, that could definitely cause another more changing moment to run into something that I don't want to see you. Heck yeah, man. Now, I actually was talking to my brother earlier because I told him that y'all were going to have me on the ship. He was pretty stoked about it. He ran into my cousin Mark, who actually lives in the house right up the road of ways. and he's got a bunch of property back through there too, but he said that he was walking his dog, this was just like a couple days ago.

He said he was walking his dog up the road at night, like right at dusk, and he comes from the woods next to the road, and then his dog starts freaking out, and he had something tear off through the woods, like making crazy noise, like he said, sounded big, and he got freaked out and went home. So, yeah, my brother just told me that odd, and, well, it also seems kind of like at that time of year again.

You know, it's the same time of year. Yeah, kind of supports the other things you've heard. Yeah. Brother, I talked to him yesterday, too. He said that it sounded like something last week when he and his girlfriend were asleep. He stays in my older room now. My little brother does. He said it sounded like something was banging on the roof of the garage out beside the house really loud.

And then he's like, got he heard something up. Thank you. There's a couple of things that recently. have happened over there. So it seems like activities kind of ramping up in that area again. Family unit that just is more active this time of year or it's like...

Have you migrating? Do you hear any animals come up missing or anything in the area? I mean, there's, like I said, there's coyotes that occasionally will come up, but if you, like, shoot a gun up in the area to run off. Yeah, there's...

I mean, and the area is not, like, you know, it's pretty populated. I mean, it's still rural, you know, rural enough talent. It's not city or town. roads and, you know, schools and churches around the area, too. I was just wondering if now there's local people around there, would they be open to talking about things like this,

or would it be something if they saw one of these things, would they keep it to themselves? Well, I think now it would be more of a thing that people might actually say something just because of the popularity of something like finding Bigfoot being on TV, you know? Right. maybe it's more of something that they would not be scared to talk about. But I have a feeling that...

I mean, it depends on the person, really, I think. Sure. I was just curious if anyone in the area had said anything, you know, they'd heard or seen anything similar. You know, like I said, I didn't talk to my cousin personally, but my brother just kind of told me that has happened to him a couple days ago with him and his dog, so that's the only other person than I. know of that is experiencing like that other than my little brother.

Now, oh, I totally forgot. We actually did go back up. My dad came down the next day after that really long, loudscreen because he was really interested and kind of wanted to see if, you know, it was maybe coyotes or something like that. He came down, and me and him and my brother and my uncle and my other brother all walked up to the pasture, and there was actually a little, calf that had been killed and it looked like maybe some coyotes got in hold of it.

So I don't know if it was that noise. I don't think it could have been a coyote because it was just, it didn't sound like one at all. I've heard coyotes. But there was, you know, there was like a dead calf up in there. What was the condition for a while? Can you tell how it's been good? The hind had been torn out.

It kind of looked like there was, It looked like coyotes had definitely been out there eating on it, but like I said, I don't know how long it had been dead. It couldn't have been but a couple of days. And honestly, my dad was just like, well, you know, animals, when they're dying can make some pretty crazy noises. Maybe that's what you heard. And I was like, no, this is like way further up

than where this noise came from, because this noise came from literally right at the edge of the woods next to the house. Of course, you've got to be skeptical. and especially if you haven't experienced anything like that yourself. Absolutely. You know, I try to be as skeptical as possible, but some things you just experience something. It's like there's no way around what it could be.

I'm not saying I know what they are, but I really, after experiencing those things, you know, I definitely feel like they are real. I mean, it's not just people running around in suits and playing recordings or anything. That's a very good point. Yeah, and be safe while you're up there, Doug. You know, I appreciate you coming on the show.

I appreciate you sharing your encounter. Yeah, thank you for having me. Yeah, I actually don't live there anymore. I go visit occasionally, but I live in Hickering, North Carolina, which is probably about like 30 miles away or so. And I live in a pretty heavily populated apartment area. I don't think I'll be running anything like that around here. Yeah.

But yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you so much. Yep, thank you, Ed. All right, take easy, guys. Well, interesting. I mean, you know, I've heard things from that part of the country, so there is definitely activity there. It's interesting he mentioned the chatter.

Yeah, yeah. We're getting that more and more now, I think. You know, people are actually coming out and talking about that. Well, I want to thank everyone for joining us tonight. And if you get a chance to check out our Facebook fan page until our website goes live, the Satas Watch Chronicles will be posting these videos up on

the fan page under Bigfoot Hot Spot Radio. But I wanted to thank Doug for coming on. I want to thank Jamie and Will as always. Thank you for being here. And until next time, everyone, have a great night. Worst part about laying sod is. Actually, laying the sod is the worst part of laying sod. That's way too much work.

man, that is. Yeah, I spent all day laying that sod. I don't know, thanks. Yeah, it wasn't fun. It makes my back hurt just thinking about it. The best part is when my dog went out and took a dump right on the sod I just laid. I was like, thank you. Of course.

What's that movie from the 70s? I was like, thank you. May I have another? Yes, thank you, sir. You know, that's something when I was in your, I used to say a lot. Thank you, sir, may I have another. Always when we were getting screwed somewhere, you know. Sports betting is sweeping across the country faster than the coronavirus

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