Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:526 Terrifying Night On The Appalachian Trail

Episode Date: March 24, 2019

Spoke to Glen who is a retired law enforcement officer. Glen said "I was injured on the job so I have taken some time off. A good friend of mine and I decided to take a long hike down the Appalachian Trail. We were warned by the park rangers not to hike the trail, they made the comment "We don't work in anything less than a 4 man team. A lot of strange things have been going on." Now I didnt really believe in bigfoot. After the night we spent on the Appalachian Trail, I changed my mind on a lot of things. It still haunts me to this day." Aaron writes "Hey man my gf, and I had 2 interesting encounters during our trip to LBL. Went in with the intent to show her some wood booger's, ended up running into what I can only assume was a demon/witch lady near a cemetery.My gf refuses to really talk about her because she had said hi to her as she walked past but the lady ignored her but looked up smiled and said hi back to me when I said hi. Her eyes were black but my gf describes her differently than I saw her said she got super cold but never saw her face her hair hid it but I saw short hair. Then later that night we went back in, and I believe around mile marker 26, 3 deer were off to the side of the road 1 was a really nice buck I slowed way down and in the corner of our lights we caught what I thought was a 4th deer so I didn't think about it but my gf freaked and as I looked up this massive light grey/whitish dog creature leaps up what had to be a 30-40ft hill in 1 leap I was like wtf I stopped turned my light into the woods to follow the creature for a moment we lost sight of it. I looked at the deer, there eyes reflected yellow in the light but when I looked back into the woods what I originally past over as a tree originally looking in had reddish eyes in the light But it was tall I wanna say 9 maybe 10ft. I would like to know what you really know about that place. I did 10 years in the army, 4 of which were in a long range surveillance company. 13 months in Kandahar province among others, rural villages people would warn us of giants in the mountains, which really to me confirmed the Kandahar giant story to me the people genuinely were feared these things, and my buddies that had been in awhile all had some creepy stories So why not a big wolf man, wood booger's, witch's, etc. if you have any info on that area that hasn't really been mentioned on the show I'd loved to hear back from you. Fascinated me that so many apex predators live in that area. I want to go back."   https://sasquatchchronicles.com

Black thing go from left to right, and I thought, I'm going to die out here and no one's ever going to know. I couldn't believe what my eyeballs was showing me. I'll never forget how evil the eyes were. It was a horrible. I mean, I've never seen nothing that evil. It ran towards me at a rate that I can't even explain, turned and stared at me. And this look of, I just want to kill you. I want to say it was human, but it wasn't.

He was yelling at me to grab a gun, grab a gun. I was like, for what? He said, just grab a gun. And there's footprints all the way to the door of my house. It had went inside my garage all the way to the door. 911, what are you reporting? Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about six foot nine, I don't know.

Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right at him. Uh-oh. You're listening to Sasquod. Chronicles. Check us out online at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. If you've had an encounter, email me. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. To the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show playing for you tonight. We'll be talking to Aaron. And Aaron and his girlfriend were in the LBL land between the lakes.

And they ran into a ghost, a demon, very strange woman. And later, some, a upright running canine, upright canine running around in the LBL that was stocking deer at the time. And then we'll wrap up with Glenn. And Glenn had a very terrifying night on the Appalachian Trail. And Glenn's encounter is very interesting because Glenn is a former police officer. He really didn't believe in Bigfoot. Him and a buddy were going down the Appalachian Trail and turned out to be one of the worst nights of his life. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email.

My email address is Wes at saskatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance, check out saskwatraunicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Aaron to the show. Aaron, thanks for coming on. I appreciate it. Yeah, I appreciate you being here. And I know you actually had a very strange day and night on the In the Land,

before the lakes, the LBL, you and your girlfriend. If you would, would you just kind of start from the beginning? Tell us what you were doing and walk us into what happened. Okay, so what actually took me and my girlfriend out to LBO was we listened to my dad talked so much about wood boogers and all that. And I mean, my 10 years in the Army, I've got friends that just have all these stories. and I've actually got a few friends that stay completely out at LBO. They did time at Fort Campbell and pretty much have told me that they would never go back there to save their life.

Well, me and my girlfriend decided to do some traveling and LBL was the very first place that we picked to go. So we drove in there this past weekend. And we drove in there on Friday. I'd say got in there about two. And we were driving around, just looking for places to drive in at night and other places to go, places to visit. And we took one of the, I don't know what kind of, like it was a gravel road. And it led back to a couple of cemeteries, the Newby Cemetery and the Great Isaac. Cemetery or Isaac Gray Cemetery is the main points that we were at.

But there's literally nothing around them. I think it's like five miles to the closest picnic area slash campground. It's a hike. But the newbie cemetery actually takes about 30 minutes to get to. If you drive slow and you go. pretty much you go through several

big fields like open fields you go through a river and it takes you back this really windy road all the way back to you can actually see the water from the actual lake

like you're sitting on the coastline of the island well we got back there and we're just snooping around and I mean, I can't tell you how many woodbird structures like we ran into just walking around back in the woods and in between the cemeteries. Well, we're heading back for the evening and we stopped at the Isaac Gray Cemetery, which is the first cemetery you actually drive into on this road. And it's probably about 10 minutes in, but we pull up.

and we're walking around and my girlfriend takes notice of a woodbucker structure and she walks down the hill towards it. Well, I'm reading some tombstones from across the fence because this place is fenced and it's sitting on top of the hill and

at the very bottom of the hill there's these massive fields but they're separated literally by a a river. So, I mean, or creek or whatever you would call it.

But these fields are probably you probably fit five football fields in each side of them. So, I mean, they're massive. Well, I heard my girlfriend say hi, and I told her to the moment. And out of nowhere, this lady, she had black hair, very pale

skin and the clothes that she was wearing me and my girlfriend literally seen it's like we saw two different people I do not remember seeing shoes on this lady like for the life of me I cannot

I don't remember shoes on her having shoes on at all and she looked like she was in like a sweat suit attire essentially windbreaker pants and

like a sweatshirt but my girlfriend she remember seeing her as in like shorts and a t-shirt and was like as she walks really close to my girlfriend my girlfriend said she got really cold but the big thing is the girl lady

never actually spoke to my girlfriend And my girlfriend had said hi, and she walked right past her and kept your head down. My girlfriend says she never saw her face. But when I sat high and I'm probably about 15 feet from my girlfriend, she looks up at me and she smiled. And it's really looking back that the most vivid thing I can remember about this lady is the fact that her eyes were black. I mean, it's mentally exhausting to really wrap my head around it, but this lady is five miles from either direction. From anywhere, she had no hiking stuff, she had no water, she had literally nothing with her

but to close on her back. In the middle of nowhere, and then she walks in. Like, I watch her walk down this hill into this field and disappeared. Me and my girlfriend got in her car, drove out the entrance to the Isaac Gray Graveyard, and literally watched her walk into these massive fields, and we even drove past the river to make sure she didn't cross into the other one, but she completely disappeared. So, I mean, the fact that that that was,

the very first thing we encountered the part of going in there and I just blew my mind that something like that would be even there. I mean, Woodbuggers is one thing.

Witches and whatever else is a completely different story. So she had no whites to her eyes. It was all just black. Yeah. I like,

I want so bad to paint the whites in her eyes in my mind. honestly, I want so bad to do that, but for the life of me, I can't do it. She had just this wicked smile, and I cannot, in the image that got burned into my mind, I cannot see whites in the eyes. I mean, it's crazy. And tell me what happened when you guys left, because this wasn't just the only weird thing that happened to you guys when you were there.

Well, we left, like I said, we left for the rest of the evening. And we came in, I want to say again, probably around 10.30 to the actual island. And we drove around and literally explored as much as we could and really didn't expect to see anything else. Although we were really creeped up by what we had seen earlier. honestly didn't really want to see anything. It was that kind of like to creep us out like that again. But we literally drove past,

I want to say it was probably mile marker 26. And we're heading towards, I guess it would be the Buffalo Plains. I guess that's the direction we're heading. heading towards. I happen to see three deer off to the side of the road on the left. And it's right as we're coming up on this hill and there's a ravine down on the left. Well, I happened to notice that one of the deer was a really nice buck.

So I slowed down as they were really close to the side of the road anyway. And they had looked up and I'd seen the glow in their eyes. so I knew that they had taken notice of us. Well, we hadn't driven far enough yet to really make out what the fourth shape that was probably about 20 feet from them or like going up. I would say it was probably five feet up the hill that they were standing about 20 feet from. My attention was stuck on the buck, but my girlfriend freaked out. and when my uh when she did my attention shot straight to the the fourth thing and i really like

the i didn't really catch it on the way up the only thing that i can honestly say about this creature was it was it was much bigger than the deer that uh were standing there and i'd say the buck was probably a 10 point i mean it was it was a nice Nice buck for, at least in my opinion, I would have taken a shot at it and been happy with it. But ultimately this thing, I seen that it had a snout, or elongated nose. So, I mean, I really, in the lack of light, I really mistook it for it a deer. But once the light got on it, it was just massive. And honestly, I don't know what to think of this thing.

it literally leaped a 30-foot hill in one bound. And as I literally tried to stock and turn my lights on it, it went through a bit of brush, and we lost sight of it for a second. But we literally turned and brought the light back on the deer, and they were staying on the literal edge of the woods. They weren't going in, and they weren't really paying any attention to us.

well, I'm looking in the woods coming back and forth back and forth and I see the eyes of the deer out of the left corner as a light

but what really hit me was the fact that I had skimmed over what I thought with a tree stump or like a half of a tree it was standing next to it

or I mean it was very next to a tree but you know how like trees that get splintered over and like I thought that's what it was. I thought it was just a stump of one of those, but the light caught two red orbs.

Like, there was red orbs as eyes. I mean, it blew my freaking mind, because this thing had to be as tall as a stop sign. And it was standing on its two legs looking at us. Well, my girlfriend, she said the deer started going into the woods, And as this thing did, I watched this thing literally turn its back on us and walk back into the woods. Like, I don't know. Some things you just, you think are, or miss what I take is that.

And this is one of those things that I just, I had hoped wasn't real. Like, I'm fine with woodbookers or something being out there. But I feel like. There really is something more than just Sasquatch and all that. Yeah, and so when you describe the two orbs, you're talking about the eyes. They were two red eyes. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I completely mistook them.

I wasn't expecting to, like, you see where the level of the deer eyes was. So I'm kind of like grazing the ground for something to be on that level Because when this thing leaked up to hill, it was on four It didn't just run up to hill like on two legs or anything like that No, I mean it was just one powerful bound And it was up to up to the top of the hill and then the woods So here I am looking pretty much on the same level of as the deer for eyes So I didn't even think to look above

But when the light hit, I mean, sure enough, there's two like, orangeish, like deep, orange, just red, burn-orid red eyes, just staring back at us, far enough into the shadow to take away from, like, I mean, you could tell that it was a light, gray, whitish creature. I mean, you could see the ears as they perked up. I mean, it had a, to me, it looked like it had a, what kind of dog is that? It's not a shepherd. I might be saying to the Belgian mountain noise. Like, it had, like, it didn't look like it had a whole bunch of shaggy hair on its face to me,

but the body itself looked really shaggy. But the shoulders, it was probably the broad shoulder, like maybe three deep. deer, two, three deer, and size like that. And it just stood really tall. I mean, right next to a tree. I still don't know what to make of it. Yeah, it doesn't sound like a Bigfoot.

It sounds more like a dog man. Kind of what you're describing is a canine. And correct me if I'm wrong. Yeah, and I mean, my dad told me to get in contact with you. I mean, he listens to the show all the time, and I mean, I've listened to the show throughout the years. I mean, I've really enjoyed the show. I know you don't really have much on the way of a dog man,

but that was not something I expected to actually find in there. And the fact that, like, you go in there and finding woodbogar structures is literally left and right on either side of the road. I mean, it's not hard to do in there. And the fact that something else in there can live right along with those creatures. Yeah, I get a lot of dogman reports out of there. I definitely get a lot of reports out of there. You describe these structures.

Describe them to me and for the audience. When you say woodburger structure, what does that mean? Oh, so, I mean, it's just the taking of random trees. like you'll find a 30-foot tree that's been broken off at the bottom and just plant like planted or leaned up against other trees. My girlfriend took a great picture of, I'm sure it's probably about 15, 20 foot long, but it's stuck up in about 40 feet up in the top of a tree,

just stuck snugly pointing in, I can't tell you the direction at the time she told me I was pointing north, but I didn't actually follow up with her on that. But, I mean, it's kind of like that tepee structure. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, it's like, how on earth do you get a 150, 200 pound log to stick perfectly up in a tree like that when there's no broken trees around there? decided to do that. I mean, it's

this lane perfectly horizontal. Do you think the woman you ran into, do you think she was human being or do you think it was a demon or a spirit or something to that effect?

I mean, the sense that we're in around graveyards and there was probably four or five graveyards back there. I remember seeing the newbie, the Higgins, or something like that, Isaac Gray.

I mean, it's just so many graveyards back there. And I don't know enough lore about that area to sit here and say it was a witch or this or that. I would probably say it was something demonic. I mean, there's some kind of weird feel, especially in there, around the graveyards. We noticed that, I mean, you had stones from that have no markings all the way. I think someone had actually recently been back there, buried back there within the last year or so. But, I mean, still, it's just, it's a weird place.

It's got a weird feel to it. I've lived in the mountains of Virginia my entire life. been 47 states and that place actually going into it you really feel there's something about it I don't know what that woman was I hesitate like I don't want to call her

a demon or a witch but the fact that she was so far from any campground picnic area anything and that we were that close to the coast and she still had probably another 30 minutes, 40 minutes of walking just to get to the end of this road, if not longer, let alone a campground or a picnic area. I have no idea what to say. Ghosts. She looked like she was in modern clothes, though. I've never

really heard ghost stories where they see. change clothes or they appear differently to different people because what my girlfriend saw and my girlfriend saw said she had long hair. I saw the girl with short hair, so whatever

we saw was able to appear differently to two different people. Yeah, no, I get it. Plus the black eyes, ma'am. You know, that's usually... Did she appear physical, though? I mean, obviously, if you said hi to where,

your girlfriend said hi to her. To be honest, this is the mind bar. She walked within an arm length of my arm length of my girlfriend. She takes her head

bowed to her. My girlfriend said she never saw her face. I don't remember this girl ever making a noise. I didn't hear a leaf when she would walk. I mean, she walked down a mountain

quieter than anything I could have ever imagined doing. I don't know how to explain it. My girlfriend

said the biggest thing that she recalls is the fact that it was super cold in her

head that it was super cold and she was wondering how this girl was out out here

in shorts and I'm sitting there thinking what do you mean shorts?

I saw all this girl in like a sweatsuit of types. So I mean that's

there's a reason why me and my girlfriend don't really feel comfortable talking about it because, like, we don't know. That just, that wasn't something we expected or really wanted to find. I mean, who wants to run into that? Yeah, no, I get it. I get it, man. And, you know, that area is really, the Native Americans won't go in that area.

You know, they'll avoid it at all costs. And so you have to be careful, you know, in that area. One of the big things that I noticed about the locals, a lot of the locals will talk about woodbookers all day, but you started getting off on any kind of other war. They really didn't want anything to do with you or want to talk to you at all. Because I asked questions. Like, once I had seen,

I'm skeptical about talking about demons and stuff like that to people. but I asked about the beast like Saturday evening and when we were going around to local tourist sites and stuff but people just did not want to talk about it I had one lady say she lived there for 50 some years and had never even heard of it been camping and hiking all over life

so I don't know I think there is something that drives a large amount of fear into those people there a lot of them don't like to talk about it yeah it would be safe going back what do you think uh bigfoot is i know you've been looking looking into it and finding structures but what do you think that they are erin um i it's for me i i imagine they're ancient people i imagine they uh i don't

i'm i wonder if they have ties to like the magic or it's magic or something old in this world. I mean, the government goes way out of its way to keep them under the table. Like I said, I did 10 years in the Army, and I've got friends that were in each of the different groups. I've got friends in third, second,

and one currently in fifth. And I might still have a couple buddies down in, in North Carolina as well. But, I mean, they all have wild stories. And I used to love listening to them talk. But these things, I mean, they're so elusive. They're able to survive in any kind of environment and condition. I wouldn't be surprised that at somewhere along one,

And they have some link to humans. I mean, they're smart enough to keep away from us for the most part. I don't, to be honest, Wes, I couldn't tell you what these things are. I mean, my best guess would be ancient human relations. Yeah, I get what you're saying. It's a fair answer. I mean, no one really knows. That dog man that you ran into, I don't.

That is an abomination. I would rather, like, if that, I imagine humans probably had something to do with that. I've read a lot of books about, from Russia and Germany, a lot of the tests they used to do. I wonder if they were ever successful in any of those tests. I mean, I've read about a rather nasty test from Russia. several people in a chamber without sleep and food for a long period of time. People, it was a rather nasty scenario. So I don't put it past, man, to be far advanced in technology and be able to do something like that.

However, Bigfoot, Bigfoot's old. I mean, you got the Native Americans that talk about him. I mean, he's been seen in the Swiss Alps for thousands of views as the Yeti. I mean, you've got what I believe I've heard you say, there's what, eight different types in the United States, right? Well, I mean, no one really knows. There could be many, many different types, you know what I mean? It seems that way with descriptions when people, they'll say,

no, I didn't see an ape. I saw a human or I saw Neanderthal. Some people will say what I saw was a baboon. Other people say, no, it was more chimp-like. So I think there's different types of these things. How many no one really knows? You know what I mean? Well, yeah.

And I guess I agree because, I mean, I've heard stories from Vietnam soldiers about rock apes. And, I mean, the different sizes, I love listening to your show for that, because, I mean, it really feels like, you get some it feels like they're almost like people you really get something different with each with each encounter with your show is something that i really noticed about saskatch now getting people to talk about this this beast and other weird phenomena i don't some of it i don't

know what to make of some of like like i said this the the lady that I saw with the black eyes, I would, I would pay you really good money to paint the whites around her eyes to help me just make something of this. And it just, it's mind-blowing.

Because I was, I wasn't skeptical of Bigfoot going in there. I mean, I would have been skeptical. Like, someone told me that there's a big, big dog that's capable of,

capable of walking around on two feet in there, I would have laughed at them, just like the next person, but that apparently is not the case. Yeah, like I said, I'd be real careful. The dogman actually goes back a lot farther than you think. You can look up, look up Anubis, the Egyptians, the Samaria. Yeah, dude. some of the Native Americans talk about it but again to your

point I wouldn't put it past the government to you know you get a if you can alter DNA and create 50 of those things not an army on this planet that would stop them you know what I mean so I don't put it past the government to do super soldier DNA

and whatever you're hearing about now is stuff they've been doing 50 years ago you know and so well and and that's the thing like I've you you kind of, especially in the military, you get the vibe that it's far beyond what they let on.

I mean, you watch a lot of these, the new tech that comes in onto the battlefield. I mean, it's probably been in the thought process, thought tanks for probably 50 years or more. I mean, we're not dealing with, in the military, you're not dealing with just right on the spot. inventions. I mean, a lot of these ideas it's hard to tell how long back, how far advanced the technology really

is, but I do know that the government appears to go out of its way to suppress any, any, they really want to suppress anything that could be brought to the table of proving Bigfoot or any

of these paranormal creatures. It's like they don't want you to know that there's other things out there. I would agree. And you know, be safe when you're in the, to land between the lakes, man. You had a lot of heart going in there. So be safe going in there.

And I appreciate you coming on and sharing it. You know, the lady you ran into, I've heard other Bigfoot researchers, been out in the woods and they'll come across this woman in the middle of nowhere. You know, sometimes she has a beautiful dress on. And sometimes she, I mean, I've heard all kinds of different descriptions. And I don't know what they're running into. It sounds demonic to me.

Well, and it kind of brought, my dad had mentioned a story. I guess you had talked to some brothers that were having some issues out on their property. It was a woman in white. Yeah. And that kind of, I granted, I would have to go back and listen to the show. but I mean that very well could be the case but why that also leads me a question I mean there's literally nothing in Kentucky

in that part of Tennessee so why would a demon be leading around a bunch of big foot in the middle of nowhere those kind of things are the things that I think about and just leads me to usually have big headaches yeah I get it I get it well keep me up to date will you let me know what else happens out there? I would love to know. We'll do.

Yeah. We'll do. I really appreciate you along me on. Actually, this is a pleasant surprise and getting to actually talk to you after listening to so many episodes yours. And I'm glad you do what you do. And you're able to let people like me actually out, vent out, and give an outlet to things that we've seen and other than people sitting there,

either selling you, you're crazy, or you didn't see what you saw. So this is, it's really, really important to me, I guess. I really appreciate it. Thanks, ma'am. This episode is brought to you by My Bookie. March Madness is here, and it's time to bet with the best at My Bookie.

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And I know your encounter took place. on the Appalachian Trail. If you would, would you just start from the beginning? Tell us about these guys you ran into and just kind of walk us into the whole thing if you would. Okay, it was about the fall of 2016. A friend of mine and I took the Appalachian Trail from the upstate part of Connecticut

in the Kent Cornwall area to do some deer hunting in Connecticut in New York because we had tags for both states. and about 30 to 40 minutes going up the trail we came across some volunteer workers that were probably in their mid-50s and they maintained that part of the trail and they started telling us

a few stories about the last few days that they had experienced what they sounded like people talking in the distance but they couldn't make out anything that was really being said and that they had also stacked firewood for their lean-toes and things like that. And they returned in the morning to find that the piles of wood were thrown off the trail into the woods, but they were piled in forming different types of shapes.

And that the last few days they had a really strange feeling that they were all feel like they were being watched the whole time that they were up there. And one of the guys even told us that during the lunch break he was hit in the back a couple times by some small pebbles. So they suggested that we shouldn't really go any further as that they now refused to work up there in any group of less than four guys. And, you know, we listened to them and then we kind of blew them off because, you know, I didn't really buy it to the whole Bigfoot. thing back then. So we kind of thanked them. And as we left, they kept stressing for us to just be careful.

So my friend and I, we hiked most of the day. And then we set up camp as a sun was starting to go down, but we knew we still had about two, three hours of daylight left. So after collecting a bunch of rocks and stuff to build a fire pit, and we collected a wood pile. We ate and then we settled in and started talking around the fire about meeting guys and we were laughing. And a little while later, after dark, a friend of mine looked up this little hill that was behind us. And he said, you know, he asked me, he was like, hey, what are those lights? You see those over there? So when I looked up, I saw two small red lights and one little

green light that were round shaped and they weren't moving. They were just kind of sick. And they were there. So when I looked away and then I looked back, they were gone. So we thought maybe there were other hunters or hikers, maybe using headlamps. So about 10 minutes later, we heard a whistle coming up the trail and then another whistle coming down the trail. And it was kind of going back and forth. So we whistled out to kind of let them know where we were thinking that maybe two people got separated and they were lost and they were trying to find each other and this way they could kind of meet up at our camp which was in the middle so when we whistled back we thought what we heard was a real large rock smashing against another one

and then it was followed by a real deep gurgly growl like it sounded like if you had a really bad wheezy chest cold. So, and then kind of everything went quiet. So we went to bed and about an hour or so later we heard something that sounded like someone was walking around our campsite

but when we looked out of the tent it was just out of sight of the light that the fire was letting off. So when we shouted, you know, who's out there, you know, we have guns.

we heard something run away and then about 20 minutes later we heard an ear piercing scream that my friend started getting a little nervous about so I told them that it was most likely a fisher cat which is kind of like a weasel-type animal that makes really loud screams

but I knew in the back of my head that it wasn't from all the years of hunting at night and everything and I've heard tons of fisher cats I knew it wasn't a Fisher Cap, but, you know, I didn't really want him to freak out that much. So then we went to bed a little while later, and again, we heard something shuffling around our camp. So we came out and we took our flashlights out and started beaming the whole area. And we thought we saw what sounded like something small, maybe, I don't know, looked.

It was from a distance of maybe four and a half, five feet tall. I'd probably have to estimate it. Go behind a tree and some evergreens. So as we started walking towards it, we heard it run away. And then as we were walking back towards our camp, all of a sudden this log that was about maybe two and three foot long came flying. into our campsite, just missed hitting us and smashed right into the side of our fire pit. So then everything's flying. So we got, you know, we didn't really know what was coming up with that.

So then about, it's probably like another five or six minutes later, we started hearing footsteps coming from the left and the right at the same time. and you know at that point we started getting nervous again because we didn't know what was going on and now it's probably the sun was just just starting to come up was about an hour before sun sunrise and uh so you know my buddy he was getting really nervous so you know once again he screamed out you know look we're hunters we have guns you know you better tell us who you are and you know, we heard the footsteps stop. So he took one of the shotgun rounds and he fired the shotgun round up into the air.

And all of a sudden we heard a bunch of crashing and breaking through the woods as it, as these things started running away, you know, and they were, they were snapping, and it sounded like a bulldozer was going through these woods. And a lot of it was real thick. You just, you couldn't, you couldn't even walk. through it. It was all kinds of briar patches and real thick evergreens and we would have really gotten you tied up if you tried to walk through it with all the wild vines and everything. So we packed up and we left the camp and we went out and tried to find some deer or something.

And when we came back, our entire campsite was ripped apart and our tent was actually dangling probably about five, six feet off the ground, wrapped up in all these trees and everything, and everything was just thrown apart. So we tried to get basically most of it down and we decided, you know, maybe we better move on. So as we started moving down the trail, we got maybe about, you know, three, four miles and the whole time it sounded like something was pacing us in the woods. but every time we stopped to listen, you know, it stopped. You know, and, you know, I told him, I said, you know, I'm getting this creepy feeling like we're being watched. And, you know, both of us had just retired from the police departments.

We were both retired law enforcement. So, you know, you just get that instinct when kind of something's not right. And so we finished walking down the trail and we were to be, you know, we were going to set camp back up that night again. And we rebuilt a fire pit and we went to go get firewood. And then when we came back, all the rocks in the fire pit were just thrown all over the place. And our camping stove was actually snapped in two and thrown in two different directions. and we heard so when we went to go

try and get the section of the camping grill because it had a propane small little butane tank attached to it he walked towards the bushes and he heard like a really loud loud growl

and then he heard some rustling in the bush so he just backed right off and we decided to just go back the way we came and we got down towards a stream that we had crossed a few hours earlier. And as we were trying to cross the stream, we had a bunch of rocks just come arching up out of the air and just smashing right in front of us into the stream.

And pretty much at that point, we knew it was time to just get out of there. So basically we had to abandon everything we brought in with us except our firearms. and we just basically, you know, kind of did a heavy pace, and we just can't, you know, we just hiked throughout the night and right back into the next morning until we got back down to the parking spot and we had happened to run into the guys in the parking lot as we were pulling out. They were pulling in. And, you know, we had told them what was going on.

And then that's when they had told us that the day after that they had immediately met with us, they had some other strange encounters happening with them, and they decided to suspend doing any more work on that part of the Appalachian Trail for the rest of the year. That's terrifying, you know, especially since, you know, you didn't believe in Bigfoot. What did you think was going on? At what point did you go, this might be Bigfoot? When, I think when the log got thrown, I mean, this was a heavy log. This log was at least an easy 60 pounds.

It took both of us to pick up the end to move it, you know, just to move it out of the way. And then, you know, some of the boulders that were getting thrown at us in the stream, they were bigger than basketballs. And they were getting arched up and over our heads and then landing about 10, 15 feet in front of us. and there's just no way that somebody could pick up a rock and throw it that high up into the air to land 10 feet, 15 feet in front of us with us not seeing anything behind us. Do you think the atmosphere changed when he fired the shotgun, or do you think this probably would have happened anyway? I think looking back, I think once he fired that shotgun, I think that's what. things really started, I don't know if you want to say getting amped up or getting out of control,

but I think that was probably one of the worst mistakes we made was by firing that shotgun. Doesn't it threw you off, though? You know, most wildlife, you fire off a shotgun like that, the biggest predators on the planet will quickly leave the area. But these things don't, and it's bizarre. Don't you find that behavior bizarre? I found it very, I found it very, bizarre because you know I've grown up hunting all my life and I've gone up to Maine and I've hunted bear and all that and I know that the bears you know on the East coast I don't know if they're like that on the West Coast where you are but if they the minute a bear even gets a whiff of you here I mean they're gone they just they

take off in the other direction as fast as they can and it just it just seemed like you know the whistling with the whistling and all the other noise we were making and everything else, it just, whatever it was, was not leaving. If anything, it was standing its ground and trying to get us to leave. You know, looking back on, you know, reflecting back on the whole experience. And the encounter, it seemed like it was standing its ground and trying to get us to get out of there. Yeah, it sounds like very territorial behavior. And you're right, Glenn, it's the same way out here.

Bears really are my least of my worries when I go out because, you know, bears are going to run for, I've seen it a million times. They'll run from you. And you're right. The minute they get a whiff of you or hear you or, you know, they're gone. They don't stick around. And this sounds very territorial, this behavior. Yeah.

I mean, it's something that I would, it's definitely changed me as far as I would never. I've given up hunting. I've given up hunting. I've given up going into the woods, period. I won't even go and go there during the daytime now. Yeah, one part that would have made me nervous is coming back, I mean, beyond everything else, is coming back and seeing your camp torn apart. It's almost like it was a message.

Yeah, I mean, we thought, like I said, if, you know, I would have chalked it up to maybe, you know, some kids or other hunters, but I mean we were in such remote woods in the fact that we, you know, we fired the shotgun off that night before, you know, anybody in the right mind's not going to come in a camp with guys that they know that have firearms. Yeah, and I'm curious, did the park rangers, did they tell you anything or was it more or less like, yeah, this is weird? They were just, they kind of, they told us the things that were happening to them, and they, they kind of told us, you know, you may want to think twice about, you know, taking a hike up here, you know. And they, you know, obviously they couldn't tell us we weren't able to.

But in a way, the way they were talking to us and, you know, they were, you know, they offered us coffee. And like, looking back on it, it's, I think they were trying to suddenly give us a message to kind of just, you know, turn around and go. home type of thing, especially when they said that they refused to work with a crew of less than four guys when they used to go up there by themselves or with just two guys to help clear the trail. Yeah, it sounds like they were trying to convince you guys not to go. Have you ever thought about going back? No, I'll never go back there.

Never. No, never ever, you know. And it's like, now that I, we didn't, we didn't piece it together, but now, now that everything that happened, you piece it together. And I do, I think that they were, they were trying to warn us not to, not to continue down that trail. Yeah, it reminds me of the Teddy Roosevelt story. Did you ever read that one? Um, I don't believe so. Off to send it to you. It's very similar. Uh, these guys are being harassed and harassed and harassed. It's in President Roosevelt's book.

And then one of them took a shot at the saying. And the next day, everything was torn up. I think one of the guys got killed. If you get a chance, check it out. Yeah, no, it sounds interesting. I definitely will. Thankfully, you know, we never separated from each other. So I'm wondering if that kind of saved us in a way.

Now that you're telling me about Teddy Roosevelt's story. Yeah, it could have been. It could have been. That was their problem, is they actually separated. I wanted to ask you, what do you think Sasquatch is, Glenn? What's your honest opinion? From everything now that I've heard listening to your podcasts and, you know, with what we went through, I think that it's definitely a flesh and blood creature.

It's definitely, I would definitely put it between a guerrilla. and a human and somewhere it's it skipped a spot and just and just stayed where it was in the evolutionary process because you know I mean at one point you know I mean it can it has hands I mean you would need hands to throw a log that was easily 35 40 yards away from us and with such accuracy and you know it was definitely definitely bipedal what we heard You know, like I said, being, you know, retired law enforcement, we've obviously had to chase people and everything else. We definitely know what bipedal sounds like going through the woods.

This was definitely bipedal that was walking around the camp around the entire night and everything. So I definitely think it has very high intelligence. Yeah, no doubt. And it is unnerving. I had a log thrown at my head in Texas. and it is unnerving because you're not really expecting it. And you know the sound it makes, you know that boom, boom, boom, boom, boom through there. You know what's coming.

And luckily there was a tree in between me and the log. Otherwise, it would take my head off. And much like your situation, Glenn, I went out there to pick up the log next day and I could barely pick it up, let alone throw it as far as I know it was thrown. Just wasn't going to happen. But it's a nerving one that happens, you know. you just want to start shooting when that happens. Oh, absolutely.

Absolutely. And the lights were the strangest thing. We still haven't figured out what those were. Yeah, I wanted to ask you about that. Was it balls of light? Is that what you saw? Yeah, they were round, almost like the small flashlights that you would carry, but they were steady.

They weren't really moving around. They were steady. There were two red ones, and then, you know, like I said, a green one off to the side. And then they were there. And then when we looked, I looked away, and then I looked right back away, they were gone again. And then about 15, 20 minutes is when the activity started. So I don't know if they had something to do with each other or a coincidence.

I don't know. We haven't figured it out. But I don't know if maybe us whistling back at them started something, or I don't know if it was, they just didn't want us there. I don't know. I know the one that we saw a duck behind a tree was small. It wasn't, you know, one of the big nine-footers that people claimed sometimes they've seen this. This was smaller. And then when we started walking towards it is when, you know, things started turning a lot more violent.

Yeah, and when you saw it, what did you think? were you thinking like there's a small person out here running around or? Yeah, I thought maybe it was a small kid that maybe wandered away from, you know, another campsite. And that's why we had, you know, we started walking towards it and, you know, calling towards it. You know, thinking maybe he'd come towards us and, you know, it took off. And then, you know, then all of a sudden it started hamping up. And then we didn't know at that point what it was. we just knew that it was standing behind a tree looking at us because you know we could see we could see with the flash we could see the outline the silhouette of the head and shoulders and the shoulders are kind of spread out a little bit more than you would you would expect from a you know a small small child or even a teenager and uh its arms one arm was wrapped around the uh tree trunk but the other one was his other arm kind of it's

It looked, it almost looked like it was a little bit past his knee. His hand was a little bit past its knee. But it's something, something we definitely, I mean, took us, took us a long time to get over and tell you the truth. We still haven't really gotten over it. Yeah, I wouldn't imagine you will for a long time. That's fascinating. That happened in 2016, you said?

Yeah. 2016, wow. Yeah, it was right. It was in the fall of 2016. Yeah, a terrifying night, man. Terrifying night. You know, especially you start to really feel like a trapped animal when these things are around. Well, that's exactly how we felt when, you know, we heard them coming in to the left and to the right.

We both heard footsteps coming in from both sides and the fact that we heard whistling coming up the trail. And then we heard a whistle coming down the trail. you know that's that's what really kind of got us you know nervous yeah it would make me nervous I just uh you find the the one thing about your well there's many things about your encounter but the one thing is um you know the fact that you come back and your campsites torn apart for no rhyme or reason more or less just as a way to say f you um you know did you smell anything during this encounter it was uh it's it's funny you said that i forgot to point that out to you is um we did we did at one

point we smelled we smelled something that it was it was a real it smelled almost like a skunk urine smell to it and uh when we got back to our campsite and found it torn up it was just i mean we we could smell it from probably 50 75 yards away walking up towards our camp and it just got more and more overpowering to the point that we were almost feeling nauseous trying to gather our stuff. And some of our, I know our sleeping bags were wet. And, you know, the fact that the tent was just torn apart and tossed so far up a tree. I mean, I don't even know how two or three guys could get, you know, that whole tent in the

fiberglass temples all snapped in half all that far up into a tree. You know, you'd need a ladder to try and get it that far up wedged into the branches of that tree. You know, the fact that, you know, the probe, if anybody knows anything about the propane camping stoves, you know, they're pretty sturdy. I mean, they're made of steel. Yeah, you're not going to snap in half. No, and this thing was completely snapped right in half. It didn't even have any, you know, marks on the side where, like, somebody, you know, put it against a rock and hammered it. You know, there wasn't big indentations in the side.

It's like, you know, you just picked up and snapped the match. You know, it was snapped right in the center. Wow, what a terrifying account, man. That really is. It'll definitely stick with you for a while. Oh, it's stuck with me, you know, all this time. I mean, we haven't been back out in the world. would sense. Well, I really appreciate you coming on and sharing it. I know we

chatted on Facebook and I'm so glad to have you come on and talk about it. No, actually it makes me, tell you truth, West, makes me feel a little bit better actually talking to you and, you know, having somebody actually understand what I'm talking about and not, you know, being ridiculed about it. Yeah, absolutely. Thanks again, brother. No, thank you. I appreciate it. And that's it for tonight. everyone, remember if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. If you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows.

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