Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:55 Spottsville Monster Part 2

Episode Date: October 20, 2014

Spottsville Monster Part 2! In 1975 in Spottsville, KY the Nunnelly family home was terrorized by mysterious 8ft tall creatures. Their nightmare was written about in newspapers, broadcast on TV shows but the mystery as to what was roaming the quiet western Kentucy town outside of Henderson remains. On Sunday we talk to Bart Nunnelly and he describes what happened on their property. Bart gives us a look into what happen to his family and how they felt about what happen. Join us for an unforgettable night as we dive into this story!

Four, three, two, one, zero. When I had come down this hill, I had seen this creature cross the road. It would have ripped my locked door from my truck, extracted me from my vehicle, and there wouldn't have been a damn thing I could have done about it. This thing I got to notice in its eyes. His eyes was real, real evil, real sinister looking. You know, the look it was given me.

Welcome to Bigfoot, Woody reporting. Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That's start of a bench is about six. Welcome to Bigfoot Hot Spot Radio, Sasquatch Chronicles. I'm your host, Wes, along with my brother Woody, and researcher, author, and friend, William Jebbing. Let's start the show.

In 1975, in Spotsville, Kentucky, the Nunley family home was terrorized by a mysterious eight-foot-tall creature. over 35 years ago and I remember like it was yesterday what I remember most was the fear that we all felt when these things came around and it was the first time that had ever seen my dad scared of anything I heard a bunch of limbs breaking coming through the woods

like something coming through the woods some large coming through the woods and all of a sudden everything got real quiet and I looked over to the edge of the woods and he was standing right in the little gully right outside of the woods just standing there and watching us. I couldn't even speak. I was so scared. I knew they were there. I didn't know what they were.

But I knew that they were not figments to our imagination because it killed all our animals. This place is probably the number one spot where these creatures like to hang out for whatever reason. And there was this thing standing right directly under that light. What that thing is, I don't know. But I'll tell you one thing. It's eerie.

I don't care what you believe. I've seen it. I'm not the only one that's seen it, and I don't care what you believe me or not. I know it's true. So help me, God, that is true. After the creature killed the family's pets and livestock, it seemed to be lowered in while the children were playing.

The family was terrified for their lives. You better believe it. The family decided to take matters into their own hands. Four armed men climbed to the roof of the family's home and waited. The creature was seen exiting the barn. This is their story. I want to welcome to the show Bart Nenley. He is the author of two books, Mysterious Kentucky and Bigfoot in Kentucky,

and they're both available on the Kindle right now. So I want to go and welcome Bart to the show for our part two of the Spotsville Monster. Hey, and thank you for having me, Wes. It's a pleasure. Hi, Bart. How are you today? I'm good, Will. How about yourself? I'm doing just fine. Thank you. Okay, so you've had actually quite a few experiences from what I understand. Is that correct? Yes, yes, I have. I've seen it twice, Will, and encountered it two or three more times where I didn't see it.

How long ago? And those were I play a lot scarier than the one, the encounters that I had when I saw the creature. Sure. How long ago did all this begin? It all began back in 1975, so 29 years ago. So let's go ahead and start there and tell us about the events that led up to your first encounter that particular day. Well, we had moved into an isolated farmhouse, along the Green River, here in Western Kentucky, Henderson County. Just outside of spots, we had in a little town called Basket. and at first everything was great.

You know, we had all kinds of fruit trees. We had apple trees, peach trees, pear trees, persimmons, marberries, cherry trees. We had wild strawberries growing out behind the barn. It was really an idyllic situation for my family because, you know, we've always been from the country and we were moving back from the city. And it was really good for my brother. and I, we like to hunt arrowheads in the fields, you know, outside. And this place here had all that, and right next to the river,

and it had a burial mound. Oh, we didn't have a burial mound on it. We just, we just really, it was like a paradise for us there at the beginning, but then, you know, some of our animals started disappearing. Dad's chickens started disappearing, and he just blamed it on weasels and stuff like that, and didn't think much of it. But then one night out while they were sitting tomato plants, and my mother saw this creature run and jump over a fence.

Later she saw the same creature, and she'd come out onto the front porch. That really started it there. This appearance of our animals, and this thing was more than one, and would come up right up to our farmhouse, and we'd shake our doorknob, you know, and scream and holler, make all kinds of rocket. So what Paul was basically 11 months of terror

from being harassed by these creatures. Of course, at that time, did you know it was a big foot or had you heard much about these creatures at that point? No, we had heard nothing, nothing about these things. It's kind of funny. Months and months later, we were all sitting there. I remember my mom and dad, you know, thinking, when asking each other, well, what can this be?

They would come up with all kinds of things that were kind of crazy, but never did anybody say Bigfoot. I had never heard of the word Bigfoot before, and I'm sure my mom and dad had either. So we had no knowledge at all before this that these things, you know, were called Bigfoot. So this all started with the chickens disappearing. How many chickens do you think you had? All this information that I gave not all. Anything that I don't recollect personally, I've spoken to my dad.

I was blessed to live with my dad for the next 19 years, and we spoke about the spot to a monster all the time. And he told me, you know, exactly what happened, exactly the sequence of events that happened, and what was said and all that. And that's what I used to, that I've used in my books that I've written. His recollection is in my own. and he told me that it was over 200 chickens had disappeared before, you know, during the 11 months.

Now, we never did find any of the chickens will, just maybe a feather here and there. But the other animals had disappeared. We had a goat that disappeared, and it was found by the neighbor that lived down the road. And he said it was ripped to pieces. None of it was eaten. It was just ripped to pieces. And we found a pig one day that was. was my mom and us kids who were driving the town.

We was at about a half a mile long driveway. And down at the first curb, there was a pig. So on the way back home, we stopped and looked at it. And it was exactly like the dog cartons that my brother and I were finding. We all together in the last eight months or so, we found eight carxes of dogs. And each one of them were totally eviscerated and exanguinated. And nothing, no means. eat,

eaten. Nothing gone but the intrals, the eyes, and the tongue, the blood. And the strange thing about that is, they took forever to decompose because not so much as a fly would land on these carcasses. And I remember, you know,

riding in a school bus probably for two or three months, and every day, you know, everybody, every kid on that bus would see this one dead dog that was laying in the roadside ditch. And it just took forever to decomposed. So, you know, we had a pony that my uncle had given my youngest sister.

Her name was Dolly, and she was strangled to death one night. And my older brother having to go bury her the next day. And, you know, my little sister, of course, was just crushed that it happened. And that's about it. He killed just about every animal we had, but he set for our two. dogs. We had two dogs, Wheeler, were so vicious that no one would come up to our property,

not even close family friends, and get out of their car until one of us came out and got the dogs out off of them because they immediately go run to the car and, you know, stand there at the door and bark and just wait for somebody to open up the door and, you know, they would try to eat them. But to the family,

they were beloved pets and they were really gentle, but to anybody else, they weren't. But these things, how we knew that this creature was coming around us, these dogs, we could hear them running up underneath the house. They had a little hole in underpinning beside the back door. We could hear their heads bumping on the floorboards. And we'd like, oh, crap, here it comes, you know.

Dad would get the shotgun and we'd all brace ourselves for another round of this craziness that was happening to us back then. But these dogs, they were so vicious that there was later rumors that some boy named Spain hired was running around down in the spotts real bottoms with plywood feet on. And I always had to laugh at that. I've seen it several places. Several people have told me that. And I always said, well, I'll tell you what, and if that Spineherd boy come to our farm,

there wouldn't have been anything left of him but the plywood feet. So it definitely wasn't a Spain hired dressed up in a fur suit, you know, pulling a hoax on us. You know, I used to hear people talk about that many years ago, you know, people being out there with wooden feet on it and I thought you know it'd be a pretty good trick to run around with some plywood strapped your feet I don't think it's sick to your feet very long about how wood's stuck on and uh yeah it would be convincing you know the tracks yeah it's ridiculous uh this the sponsor month was definitely no hoax

did you ever hear of any of your neighbors having animals missing no uh i never i never we didn't know many of our neighbors our closest neighbor was about a half mile away I don't remember any of the close farms or anybody come up and telling us that they were missing animals. But evidently, this thing was getting the animals from some other location and bringing them to our property and doing their business with them and just leaving them there. For what reason?

I don't know. But that's obviously what was happening. You found other people's animals on your property, too. Yes. Yes, that's all we found on our property was other people's animals. So you guys definitely felt your lives were in danger during this time period, is that right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, this was probably the most frightening time of all our lives.

And it's the only time in my life that I've ever seen my own dad scared. My dad was an exceptionally brave man. He was never scared of anything, but when it came to the spot to a monster, they were so scared, Will, that him and my mother had decided, this was probably eight or nine months into the ordeals that we were having there, they decided to get us kids together, and they gathered us around the kitchen table, and my dad started talking,

and he pointed to the wall there, and it was a five-gallon bucket, and he said, you know, there's a five-gallon bucket of the teresey and I got there at the wall, and when you see the mop there, he said, this thing is so big and powerful that I don't know what, kept it from coming in that door. He said, that back door is not going to stop it if he wants to get in here. They could probably care through it like paper.

And he said, so it means your mom had been talking. We want to know what y'all's feelings are. If this thing comes into the house and I can't stop it with my gun or fire, then I'm just going to kick that bucket of kerosene over and light it and burn us all up and we'll all go to heaven together instead of losing one member of our family. He looked at us and said, could y'all live with the rest of your life, knowing that thing out there had grabbed your brother or your sister or me or your mother? Could y'all even live the rest of your life with that? And we said, no, we'd all rather just go to having that one time together.

So that's how serious it was and how scary my father was. But it all came to a head one day, Will. Our next door neighbor, he was kind of the, my brother thought really good. But next door neighbor literally bumped into it in a. barn one day and he's the one that was really the hero of the situation because when this thing would come up and start scaring us you know and messing with us well of course a normal person would just call the state police so the state police would come out there but after two or three times they wouldn't respond anymore see they would come out with their lights flashing down the half a mile

long gravel world and of course the creature would just melt back into the woods and and, you know, they would look around for a few minutes, whatever, and get back in their car and leave, and here it comes right back out again. And so after a couple of two or three calls, this state police refused to respond to any more monster calls. So this guy had come walking up one day. My dad told me about this. And, you know, he had his walking in from one of the wooded areas. It was right there at the river. You know, we had woods on a couple sides.

rest was barns and fields. They come walking up and asked our mom and dad. We'd had him trouble. I've seen anything unusual the day before, and they said, no. He said, well, I was just down at squirrel hunting, and I've scared something up. And whatever it was, it was huge, and it was covered in hair, and it ran away on two legs. And so he wanted us to be aware of that. And then dad eventually became really good friends with this guy because when the state police refused to respond, he would have no choice but to call Roy, who told him to.

He said, you know, anytime you need me, I've lived a half mile up the road, just call me and I'll come right down. So he would call Roy and Roy would come. And, you know, he'd stand out there with his gun, depending on the severity of the occurrence that night, he would either escort us to our cars and out the road, or he would look around. around, you know, one time he even stayed all night up on the roof of the house with his gun, which didn't do any good. But he would be the one that would come and get us out of that situation. And he had to run in with this thing that was just only described as very atypical, you know, most people, I'm sure 99.5% of all Bigfoot researchers consider this thing simply, quote unquote,

flesh and blood relic comedy. It seemed like this creature enjoyed killing. It seemed like it just wanted to kill to kill. There really wasn't. I mean, am I right in saying that? Well, there was a... I would say not. Because it did, in all the animals we found, except for our horse, which was strangled.

And all the animals we found, all the internal organs were taken, the eyeballs were taken, and the tongues were taken in each case. So I don't know why it would be harvesting these organic materials like that, but I know that it did. And it would seem to me that if I were a 10-foot-tall hairy egg-like creature, that I would be eating everything. I would spend all my time eating to support my huge mass. But this thing did not.

It didn't carry it. It was just taking, you know, I can't say that it ate the, the matter that it took, all I can say for sure was that it was all gone. So, yeah, as far as killing to be killing, it definitely did that to our goat and our ponies. But the other animals seemed to be, you know, killed for a reason. And maybe part of the reason was to warn us, I don't know, but they sure brought it up, brought the animals up, and laid them right there for me and my brother's seed because we were all over that place. you know, the fields were covered with arrowheads.

You know, there was an Indian mound there, and the river was right there, and it was just a great location. All this stuff started happening. It was blended for us, and eventually drove us out 11 months later. Let me ask you, what was the creature doing

beyond killing the animals? What type of behavior did you see a lot that kind of amplified the situation? It walked up on my dad one time, while he was in it. She raised eight acres of tobacco. when we were there. And he was in one of the back of fields up in front of the house

where everybody else was in one of the fields down below the house and it walked up on him boldly, which, of course, it could be killed him, but it didn't. But it was enough to really, you know, like, hey, you know, our lives could be in danger here. And it would scream and holler at night, you know, it wouldn't give us any peace at a haul. So it was, uh, and,

And that coupled with what our neighbor had been experiencing, because he started experiencing these things almost as soon as he started looking for this. And it all ended because he told my father one day, it was 11 months later, and we're still with a kerosene jugged their bucket beside the door. And he asked me, so, Roy, do you honestly think that this thing will come up here and try to take one of my kids? And Roy told him, he said, well, Red. I don't think it will because you've lived here 11 months and it hasn't yet.

But one thing's for certain. If it does, there would be nothing in the world that anyone can do to get your kid back. Your kid would just be gone forever. And this thing is something beyond what we know. I've never seen anything like it. And there would be no chance of getting anybody back if it did decide to take someone. And so that was enough for my mom and dad. You know, they started looking for a place immediately.

And within a week or so, we were out. Did your dad describe what he saw? And can you give a description if you got a clear view of the creature? Can you describe what you saw and maybe what your dad saw? Well, my dad didn't see anything because he had glaucoma. But he did hear it and started growling from a distance and walking toward him. And he thought at first that it was some... some type of airplane or something.

But then when they got really, really close, and the dog, which was there with him, one of our dogs, Concho and Ladd, were our dogs named. It was a collie and a big bird dog, but they took off running with the tail between her legs, and that's how he knew it. My brother saw it really good in broad daylight,

and I'll never forget it. I'll never forget the way he screamed when he looked at him and saw it. He said it was about eight or nine foot tall, covered in hair said it had close-set eyes and a square jaw and he used a reference

of a TV show it was one at the time how old I am the rifleman have you ever heard of that with Chuck Conna's I don't suppose anyone's ever heard of that show huh Right, right He used to see it as a kid

Well that's what he said He had a square jaw like Chuck Connors Of the rifleman Covered in reddish brown hair And he said it was patchy And gray tinge like it was old like was an old creature.

My mother saw, she saw basically the same thing, about an eight-foot-tall, hairy, man-like creature. And that's what Roy described, too. But the one Roy saw on the first occasion was more, he said it had a short muzzle, and it had fangs and claws. So much to take trees. Right.

So what we're dealing with here is at least two different type of creatures in the same area at the same time. There's actually four types. Well, we had at least two there. Barton, why did your dad describe it as an airplane sound? It was a low, constant growl. And it didn't stop. It just kept getting closer and closer and closer.

And finally realized that it was not an airplane. And someone was coming at him. And then he ran. And I remember we were in the first. field. And I remember hearing the shotgun going off two or three times. And I remember everybody, adults first. They ran out of the field, started running toward the house.

We got there, and there was dad. And he was all shaking up at the time, you know. And we had one of our nieces who was in the house. And he had run in the house following the dogs and grabbed her up. And he said, Stacy, can you see that thing out there? And she said, yep, how far see it? and he goes, well, where is it? So she pointed, she said, it's running that way,

and he just fired in the direction that it was running. So he never actually saw the creature. Gosh, it's terrifying. One thing I wanted to ask you, you had mentioned that you and your brother were surrounded by them? Yeah, that's a whole different occasion 10 years later. Oh, really? Oh, yeah.

Well, the whole point was of that encounter was we didn't see them. Well, it happened to Smith Mills at a place called Burbank's Lake. This was in the mid-1980s. We always heard our whole life was Burbank's Lake and Burbank's Lake. It's got the biggest bass, you know, ever. Monster baths in there, so we always want to go fishing there. We just decided that we was going to do it, even though it was no trespassing, so we'd have to sneak in.

But we took the little one-man bass boat in about five or six of us, loaded up in the car and in the station wagon. And off we went to Burbank's Lake and we snuck in this place. And it was really, really creepy immediately. It was the same county, Henderson County. But it was, the lake was situated between two old graveyards and just plumped with all of water moxings. You know, every step we took we had to be really careful

because we've seen so many snakes there. And, of course, you know, everybody fishing on this side of the lake and there were wanting to fish on the other side. We think that the monster bass are on the other side, so my brother starts ferrying across the lake, one by one, on this one-man bass boat. And it took like 30 minutes, one-way trip to get across the lake with two men on that bass boat.

Then finally got us all over there, and it was a bad day. Really, I was the only one that caught anything. It was only like a two-pound bass, and I got a damn lure stuck in my jaw. That's why it's so memorable. Another reason. If I got a three-ponged bass lures stuck in me, my jaw and it had to be extradated.

But to make a long story short, me and my little brother were the last ones over there. And it was getting dark. My brother, you know, he was off carrying another one of the guys that was there across. And dark was coming really fast. And it just rained for two or three days before this happened. And I had a half a jug of kerosene, which is pretty really useful in both getting the lure out of my face and building this little bit of fire. It was a pitiful fire that I had.

I was gathered up some, you know, some small sticks. I thought to get burning and corded the kerosene on the pile and started, and I just lit it when, you know, darkness was there. We had a little fire and we was waiting with my brother. And all of a sudden, we started hearing these tree breaks. I mean, so loud. It was just incredibly loud. and immediately both me and my brother knew what it was.

I don't know how, but it's like, you know, when you have an encounter with one of these creatures, your body automatically reacts in a certain way, whether it's fight or flight or it's paralysis or it's, you know, whatever. But your body reacts to being in close proximity to these things. For us, it was, we knew immediately that it was one of the Bigfoot monsters, and we were scared out of our minds. And immediately, I'm not one to be scared of anything much. You know, I face death on several occasions. I never remember feeling fear like I felt when these vehicles were close.

But the tree breaks, you know, is just solid blackout by now. The tree breaks were getting closer and closer, and we were surrounded on three sides by these sounds of breaking limbs. And behind us was the lake down the hill to the lake, which was infancy with water moxies. But we really thought we were going to die because they just kept getting close and closer and closer. And I would wait until they got within, I'd say, you know, 10 or 15 feet. And I would take that cursing, I'd throw it in that little fire and it would flare up. And we'd give us light for like 50 or 60, maybe 70 feet just in an instant, you know.

and I thought I was going to at least get to see what was getting ready to kill us. But when I threw that fuel into the fire and it lit everything up, there was nothing there. Well, you know, the kerosene only lasted like 20 or 30 seconds. And as soon as it died out again, there comes the sounds again. And they were getting closer and closer and closer, and I let them get even closer within 10 feet before I threw the next batch of kerosene into the fire. The fire flared up and nothing. We couldn't see anything around us. And this happened three, four times.

And finally I was out of kerosene. And I told my brother, I said, get ready. We're going to have to swim port. I had a little stick with a flame on it, about two inches tall. And I grabbed the stick up. We started backing down to the lake. You know, and he sounded for falling us. And I'm telling you, they were so loud and right there on us,

even in places where there were no trees, but these sounds of tree breaks. So we got down, we backed down to the water's edge, and about that time, we heard our brother holler, oh, hey, who's next? Of course, you know, we were like, get over, hurry, hurry, hurry. And he got over there, and just in the nick of time, it seemed like,

and he said, what the hell's going on over here? You know, what's all that fire about? I said, man, I'll tell you later. and let's get out of here. He goes, well, there's only one of them can go at a time. Bull crap. He was... He was...

Nobody was saying, oh, this island. We were both going. He said, there's no way, Bubba. There's no way he's broken home. Three people. It's a one-man boat. It's going to see him. I said, let's give a shot.

So we all three go on the boat, and it took, like, over an hour to get to put our way across that lake. But I was never so glad to get away from some places. as I was in Burbank's Lake. Were you old enough to remember, or did your dad tell you the story about them getting up on the roof and shooting at the creature as it was coming out of the barn?

Oh, no, I remember. No, I remember that like it was yesterday. And the reason I remember is because when this thing, when Dad had called all these people together, this had been happening regularly, almost every night, so we had four, five, or six people there

up on the roof, and they were all armed with shotguns and rifles and pistols. And these weren't, you know, we're Kentucky's, we know how to hunt, and we know that a shotgun it's only good at pretty close range, but the thing that they

saw and heard was not at the barn, it was at the tree line right across from the house, and that was only like 20 feet away from the house to the left. The nearest, actually the nearest building that was close to up as a little smoke house, and that was about 30 feet in front of the barn, about 40 more feet away from that, was a big old barn.

But they got up on the house, and they were sitting there, and I remember this quite well because I'd put a poker into the fire, you know, a fireplace poker, and was heating it up in case I needed it. You know, I'm nine years old, and I'm thinking about self-defense. Wow. because I couldn't have a shotgun. So they're all out there, and, you know, it's like they stay for two or three hours, like,

oh, nothing's going to happen as crap, you know. That's going to happen. Their wives are down in the kitchen, and mom and dad is in the kitchen. My dad never got up on that roof. He had glaucoma. He could not see that well at all. So, of course, he wouldn't have any business up on a roof at night

with five or six and so of people with guns. So when this thing, when it all broke loose, They was up there and they were just about ready to give up. It was probably our 10 o'clock maybe. And they'd been up there for a few hours. And all of a sudden they heard this dog yelp out. And they saw this pair of eyes, eyes shine, and a low growl. It was just a bone-chilling growl.

And we could hear it inside the house. And as soon as that thing growled out and it sounded like World War III going on up on our roof. There was so many gunshots going on. off and they weren't using bird shot. They were using deer slugs in the shotgun. So surely they hit it. There was so many gunshots. It scared them all so bad, even though, you know, they were well armed.

My older brother, Harold, he was one of the ones up there. My cousin, Bruce, was one of the ones. But my older brother, Harold, was sitting on the Eve in a chair. And when he was shot, he fell back and kicked the ladder off. And the ladder, they didn't have any way to do. down another guy that lived down the road was friends of my mom and dad. I still remember his name, but I'm going to say his name. He shot and did the same thing and rolled off the front of the house and landed in the front yard.

Here he comes knocking on the front door trying to get in, but it's locked. So my uncle just arrived, and he had brought with him a sheet. He had a sheet folded up with a huge bundle in the middle of him. I'm like, what in the world was that? And he was carrying shotguns and he owned a couple of rifles, and he got there all down and hitched him. As soon as they yelled out and started firing, my dad said, get out there, Robert, get out there.

Get that ladder back up, get out there. And what he had in his cheek was probably about 40 different sized pistols of different calibers. And he couldn't decide which gun to take. He kept grabbing one. He went to run the door, and running back and grab him and running back to the door. Dad said, hell, just get out there. Get that ladder over there all screaming and hollering on the roof,

and this other guy beating on the front. door and it's calamitous. But the poker I had in the fire, about 10 minutes before it, my dad had told me, son, take that poker out of fire. So I took it out. And when that thing growled out really loud and everybody started shooting, while he reached back behind me, it was going to pick it up. And I grabbed the wrong end.

So I grabbed the hot end of the poker and it burnt my hand pretty badly. And that's why I remember that I'm like so well. Oh, man. But they finally got out there and got the ladder about the, up everybody comes down in the house everybody scared the crap just scared right out of and they want to leave everybody wants to leave and we want to leave so we all jump the car and we go to our grandmother's for that night well the next time we come back and the guy next door is down and he goes to where that thing growled

out and there's the carcass of a dead dog exactly as my brother and I found the other ones you know gutted, had an incision from its throat all the way down between its hind legs, its hind legs. No guts, no eyes, no tongue, no blood. No creature. No blood of any type. Even though, you know, there must have been 50 to 80 gunshots go out within the next, within two minutes. And it had to hit this creature, but there was no blood and there was no creature.

So, yeah, that's how that happened. I was just wondering, you know, from a kid's perspective, and your daily life, you know, like, how did it affect you living like that every day? You know, as far as you're sleeping and you're eating and you're trying to be normal and going to school, what's that like? Well, you know, kids are pretty tough, but they're not that tough. And it didn't really bother us all that much. You know, we still got hungry, we still ate when we got hungry and everything like that. But the thing that is, we had an outhouse.

We didn't even have running water in the house. No bathroom in the house. So if you wanted to use the bathroom, you had to go outside to do it. And the outhouse was right next to the weeds. And one day my brother, you know, he had to use the outhouse. And he goes in there and sets down. And there's a cracks in the board. You know, it's just an old country outhouse.

And you look through the cracks, and you see this big hairy arm. He just reaches out and grabs a big handful of weeds and just squeezes them so they could see the juice from the weeds running down his hand and everything. They come out of the house, the loudhouse with his pants down. Told my mom and dad, we went out there, and we could see the weeds, but that was it. But as far as affecting us, though, it never affected us a whole lot until after the newspaper crew came down, which was the day after the TV crew came down. They'd heard this, they had on their police band radio.

uh, monster calls. Monster calls coming from Mallory Grove. So, actually, you know, the TV crew comes up and does a, a little segment on it, which they thought was real, you know, fun, funny. And they put a little, uh, stuffed chimp in a toy cage and put, uh, the spots of a monster on it. And after that, uh, everybody's school really started, really started, uh, the ridicule. And Roy, the neighbor down the road, was in the fire department, and he was getting it just as bad, if not worse, than we were.

Because right after that, the newspaper comes out. Of course, they see it on news. They have to do a story, and they soon, you know, a crew out, and they take pictures and write the story up. And then everybody in town knows what's happening, and it's pretty funny to them. Well, it's really, really serious, and a lot of them does. After that, we was affected pretty good.

I got in a few fights and started my brother. You know, it's just, you know, common kid things. But psychologically, I don't know, maybe it kind of shaped my future in a sense that in 1985, I started really to get into this cryptozoology really serious. And I started doing field investigations, going in, talking to eyewitnesses, doing, sketch renderings of what they've seen and not only Bigfoot but all manner of unidentified phenomena

here in Hennersky, Kentucky. I want to go back a little and ask about the animals that were killed. When they had portions of missing eyes, tongue, things like that, did it appear that they were torn out or removed some other way? Well, you know, I was only nine. Is this wheel on top?

to now? Right, right. Okay. I was only nine, Will, but you don't have a real analytical mind at nine years old. You have more of an impressionable mind. But I can tell you for certain that the incisions made, they always started right at the neck, top of the neck, continuing on down between the hind legs. They were made, it looked like they were cut.

They were not ripped open. They were not shredded. they were nice neat cuts and you know you know we just took sticks and opened up the cut you could see there's no guts in there and their mouths are wide open you see there's no tongue in there and there there's no eyeballs in there and you know I didn't really be examined any further than that I didn't really I never touched any of the carcasses and some told me that you know we shouldn't touch it and I was probably you know in the right by thinking that okay the reason I have is a friend of

mine in port in Oregon many years ago with an investigator into cattle mutilation phenomena was going on and many of the aspects you talk about or describe are sort of in that category you know what I mean sure with the specific organ missing no blood the incisions all and so forth and right our government insider friend mr. Black told me that oftentimes when areas were where we're there was big foot activity going on, that they would use the cattle mutilation phenomenon as a cover for that big foot activity.

So I just kind of wanted to throw that in. Okay, well, that's strange. We certainly never saw any strangers around our house that would be capable of... This way to cover and discredit, you know, witnesses that were seeing these things. Throwing one mystery on top of another. I don't know how that, I guess it does, you know,

blind me to what's going on, you know, don't want the left hand, know what the right hand's doing type thing, but there were certainly no strangers that we ever saw down in our house. And if anybody drove up, and then they just, the road went down for about another, maybe a little bit less than a quarter mile and ended at the river. But if anybody drove up, our dogs would be on them. You know, they'd be chasing a car.

And so I seriously doubt anyone ever got out. And it would be 11 months that we lived in Basket. I doubt that anyone ever got out of their car without us being there, at least one of our family being there. Right. The only other possibilities, we know that the government sent special forces seems out occasionally to get these things, the violent ones, and you would never see those folks.

Yeah. Well, in this one, I'm here to tell you, Will, it missed one in 1977. I mean, it didn't show violence toward us. just showed aggression, but it sure showed violence toward our animals. Right, right. I remember one time we were walking and we walked down this ridge and there was a little swamp, you know, swampy area there, but it was dry. And so we walked out onto it, you know, we were looking for our heads up on the ridge.

But we were still, you know, not so scared there. At the end we were too scared to go out in the fields, but right there in the middle, we were still, you know, we were still kids and damn it, we were going to arrowhead hunt no matter what. And I saw a little pile of bones laying there in a nice, neat little pile. I'm like, wow, look at this. And we also found a cave made by, well, they cleared the fields of driftwood and trees, and just bulldozed it all up together in a huge pile that ran the whole length of the tree line

at the edge of the field. Me and my brother found a cave there. And we were crazy, I guess, and stupid. more likely, but we went up in this cave and it was probably five or six foot tall and probably four or five wide. And dad had always told us, you know, my dad was extremely smart. He said, don't, you ever see a find a cave or anything like that? It looks like a, you know, a nest or a cave or any kind of thing resembling something that this place, this thing might live or go, don't ever go there. You get away fast.

You know, don't ever go inside. And the first thing we did was walk inside. You know, we walked in for like four or five feet until we couldn't see anymore. So if this thing wanted us, he could have just grabbed us immediately and no one would have ever known. Right, right.

But it didn't. And so we went back home and the next morning at breakfast we were talking about it and my brother let it slip about the cave we found. And immediately my dad looked up and said, what cage?

You know, oh, crap. We got to come clean now. Okay, we found this cave, Dad. It was a supper that night. I was at breakfast in this morning. The supper that night, and he said, what cave when we told him about it? He said, well, we're going to go look at it tomorrow morning.

As soon as the sun, you know, as soon as the morning comes, we're going to go check it out. But in the morning came, and we all went down there to look for that cave, guess what? It was completely gone. There was nothing there but dirt. So it's very very, very.

had evidently heard us, and listening to us, speak, and went and erased the cave. And that's just, this was, the Spotsville case is so strange and bizarre. It's probably more the most bizarre cases ever.

All the things that happened, you know, and I wrote a lot of them down in, in my books, but I haven't, by any means, wrote everything, every aspect of the case down.

And I might just do that. Uh, Barton, there was one detail that I, had brought up with your mother, and it was the fact that, you know, when you guys first even walked into the house, you went to the back door and there were holes in the screen with the previous renter. Yes, well, let me tell you that this is my mother.

She's in her 70s, and she's just been diagnosed with parking injuries. And I don't know if that affects her memory, but I talked to her the day before yesterday, and I listened to the show last week. I finally got listed to the show, and I was really surprised and shocked at things that she remembered and didn't remember, and the things that she remembered, some of those weren't accurate at all. But it's, you know, it's all a matter of perception. She wasn't where I was at when this happened or I wasn't where she was that. So everybody remembers different things, but my dad told me that story, and I was actually there.

He had ushered us out of the house when this subject was discussed. And I remember it was the first day we came there. It was a light snow on the ground. And we were coming to look at the house. We're going to move in it. And we got to park our car. He had vicious dogs too, so he had to come out and usher us in. And we were going in the back door.

The screened doorhead wooden slats nailed across it, all across it. And, of course, when we got wind, side and he shut the door. You see that there were going to be nailed across holes. And I remember my dad and said, the guy's name that lived there was Buzzie. He said, Buzzie, what? What's the deal with your door

there? Why are all those holes in your door? And you've got to board it up like that. And he told his oldest daughter that she needed to take us kids out and build some snowmen or something, you know, just to get rid of so they could talk about that. But my dad led her

told me exactly what he said. And he told me this story many times I know exactly what it said. Buzzie, he said, well, red, once we got out, he said, well, red, I was sitting there in the kitchen. This last summer, and I was sitting at the table. I had my 22 rifle right there behind me, leaning on the door jam in the kitchen, and I had my back to the door. And he said, the hair on my neck just stood straight up, and I knew something that was watching me. And so I turned around, and there standing out. in the yard is this big hairy fella.

And he's about eight or nine foot tall and covered in hair. He's standing there looking at me. He said, so I just grabbed my gun up. I was there by myself. I grabbed my gun up. And I emptied it out that back door. He said, that's why those holes are there. I want to tell

you in front of your kids, you know, I want to scare nobody. But there's this big, tall, hairy man, and I shot at him. And he said, after I shot, and eventually I don't even remember him running off. I just kept squeezing the trigger even after the bullets ran out. But eventually this thing ran off.

He said, I don't know what the hell it was. And my dad, like I say, he's extremely, I don't know, powerful and confident, you know. He didn't care about it. He said, well, we're not, we don't care about any big hairy fellas. He says, I got a couple of dogs that eat a hairy fellow right up. And if that don't work, it's too ugly shock. and I'm going to take care of him where you're 22 would miss. I'll hit him in my 12 gauge.

And I just kind of laughed it off. But that's the story of that. And I know my mom didn't quite remember it the same, but that is exactly how it happened in what was said and why the door was boarded up. Well, I wanted to promote your books for you. You have Mysterious Kentucky and the Bigfoot in Kentucky? Right, yeah.

The Mysterious Kentucky and Bigfoot in Kentucky are also available and Kendall for really, really cheap. So you guys, you know, get you a copy of that and read it up. Yeah, I'm going to get the two big footbooks. I can't wait to check them out. I appreciate that. Well, we appreciate it, Burton. Absolutely.

Yeah, man. But that's no problem. Yeah, thank you again. You're a pleasure. You're welcome, Shannon. It was a pleasure. I'm sorry if I rambled on too long about some things. No.

It was awesome. I get pretty passionate about this stuff. No. No, I hear you there. All right, you're welcome, Wes. You guys have a good evening. Thanks for having you on. You have a good one.

Okay, thank you, Shannon. See you, Will. You all have a good one. Bye-ha. All right, you too. Not really a whole lot going on in the Bigfoot world, is there? No. I'm a quiet right now.

There's another Bigfoot movie coming out, another one called stomping ground. I just saw the trailer for it. I sent it to you West. Yeah, it's another Bigfoot movie. I was like, oh, my goodness. It's so hot right. now. Yeah, what is it with all these movies all of a sudden?

I don't know. And I did post a really cool video of, he's called like a Native American Watchman or something, and he was just chatting for like four minutes about Bigfoot. And he's just real down to earth about it. And he's, you know, he's just like us. He's just like, it's a huge unknown primate. That's just really intelligent and nest your disguise and all that.

And it was really cool to your hand talk. People enjoy that video. Yeah, I saw that video. It's a pretty interesting. It's a pretty interesting video. Yeah, it's cool, right? Early 2000 period, I had a floating native gift store in my home for my young child,

and my common-law wife at the time, over in Village Island, catering to the tourists. And I was stirring soup on a stove, and two kayakers walked into the float house, and the woman goes, what throws rocks out here? Bears or squirrels? And I got my attention, so I asked her, what are you talking about?

And she goes, oh, we're camped over on Turner Island at this peninsula. I said, yeah, I know the place. And she goes, we're sitting in a little structure. I said, yeah, there's a lean-toon frame on the beach, on the white shell beach. And she goes, we were watching the stars sparkle and reflect on the calm water. And all of a sudden we could hear little pebbles, rocks being thrown from the trees behind us and splashing. And she goes, we were wondering what it was. and I said, well, nothing throws rocks out here except for humans and bo'kous, the wild man of the woods, the male saskwage.

And it's one of their traits. It's a primate characteristic that Diane Bossie and Jane Goodall established back in the 60s of primates, that when threatened or curious, they'll throw rocks. And if they're really threatened, they'll shake foliage or their push over dead foliage. And it's documented with chimpanzees, mountain gorillas, orangutans, monkeys that they do these. primate characteristics and acts when they feel threatened. And of course, if you correlate that to Sasquatch Bigfoot sightings, it's rampant. It's across the board.

So what is Bigfoot? It's nothing more than North America's undiscovered grade eight, but it's also found in Europe, Asia, even down in the South Pacific, Australia, they call it Yawi, and so forth. But out here we call it Vokos and Junocha. And when I told that lady about what I thought it was, she got scared. And I said, look, ma'am. I said, I'm a watchman. I'll go grab your tent with your husband, put it in the boat, and we'll bring you over to our village island.

You can camp on the dock. And she said, oh, thank you. I want to do that. But when we came here, of course, I went and looked behind the campsite here, and I found a tree snap. It was about that high where something had grabbed a small spruce tree, busted it, and twisted it. A human can't do that. And it wasn't snow damage. It was fresh.

It had been done within a few hours. So that's another primate characteristic, especially of the North American Bigfoot, that they do tree staps. They also do like primitive lean-to shelters and nests. So if you do come across something like that, do I believe in that creature? Of course I do.

It's like a white blackberry. You spend enough time out here. You've got to see it. I have heard them. I have seen them in the spotlight of my sane boat, not a quarter mile away from here in Native Anchorage in 1994. It's well documented in Dr. John Bindernagle's book, North America's Undiscovered Great Eighth, the Sasquot, about my encounter with three of my crew men on board, and we put a spotlight on, and there are 100 yards in front of us. This big, huge human, boom, dropped on its knee, and then the female dropped on its knee and bent like that.

And for 20 minutes with my spotlight, we watched these two creatures, but I could see reflection of eye, two eyes, one eye, like something was breathing with his arm in front of it. And when we bring the dance of the boiqus, the wild man of woods, to life in our big ceremonies of potlatch and other events, you'll have a costume dancer with a fur-covered costume, a mask that looks like this ape. And when you dance it, you're down low like that. And that's what the pockos is said to be like when you see it. It's always hiding behind its hair-covered arm. And at times you can hear them out here. What you're listening for is they chirp when they communicate back and forth. And when they holler, they're whoop, whoop, whoop,

when they call back and forth from one to another. And if you don't believe in it, come stay out here in October into November when the clams get good. And I guarantee you you're going to believe in something that does. That doesn't just snap, crap, pot in the bush at night. They may even come down and shake some foliage for you if they feel threatened. They may take a stick and bang it against a tree. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. And as Aboriginals, when we're taught hunting skills, as I taught my son and others,

when you hear that banging of tree, you stop, turn around, and go back where you came from. That's the book. I'm telling you. My family's here. I don't want you coming further. What happens if you go further? Well, just go on the internet and look about missing people who went camping and kayaking. There's always one or two that didn't break their leg or get hypothermia and die or have a heart attack.

There's always that small percentage of people that probably didn't heed the warning of the bus. And they went further in. And of course, when you're 700 pounds to 1,000 pounds, and you're a bipedal animal with arms about that thick, well, personally, I wouldn't want to piss them off. That was native watchman Tom Suid discussing the Sasquatch. Definitely an interesting video. I got that video off of Bigfoot evidence online.

So if you get a chance, head over there, watch the video. It's definitely an interesting video to watch, and he has a lot of great information that he's sharing. I wanted to remind our fans, we're shooting for November 1st for the Sasquatch Chronicles website to go live. So we hope you go and check us out and support us. on our endeavor in expanding the show. If you feel so inclined,

please like us on our Facebook fan page under Bigfoot Hot Spot Radio. This coming Wednesday, we have a special midweek show where we'll be talking with a witness that goes into full detail about seeing a Sasquatch face-to-face as it was peering in through a window.

And he's had a few other encounters that were pretty interesting, but it's definitely a show you won't want to miss. Next Sunday, we'll be talking with a witness from an Indian reservation. She goes and shares a lot of the native stories and encounters and experiences from the tribal land. It'll definitely be interesting to talk with her.

I want to thank Bart for coming on the show. I want to thank Andrew Bennett, John Johnson, and Jacob Smith. You guys went through, created a bunch of awesome artwork for us, and you posted it up on our Bigfoot Hot Spot Hot Spot Radio group and also in the fan page. you to like us. And I just want to thank you guys for doing that. I mean, it was, it was awesome.

I really do appreciate it. I know there's a lot of hard work that goes into it. And I really want to thank you guys for doing that for us and allowing us to use it. Until Wednesday, everyone, have a great night. And we will see you then. Being across the country faster than the coronavirus and wagering week is your antidote. I'm Tom Barton and I'm a veteran sports analyst and respected sports handicapper who will help build ESPN's brand. I've been recognized and awarded by Pro Football Weekly and Gaming Today magazine as the honest handicapper.

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