Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:566 Strange Experience In Iraq

Episode Date: July 27, 2019

Spoke to a military veteran last night who has agreed to come on the show. He shares an encounter he had in Oregon. He has also experienced some very strange things in Iraq during the war. A small portion of the show will be Sasquatch related but I believe he has earned the right to come on and share whatever he wants to share. He said "I am sure I ran into a Jinn over in Iraq. I have no other explanation for what I saw, this thing…guy walking straight up a wall."

Black thing go from left to right, and I thought, I'm going to die out here and no one's ever going to know. I couldn't believe what my eyeballs was showing me. I'll never forget how evil the eyes were. It was horrible. I mean, I've never seen nothing that evil. It ran towards me at a rate that I can't even explain, turned and stared at me. And this look of, I just want to kill you. I want to say it was human, but it wasn't.

He was yelling out, maybe grab a gun, grab a gun. I was like, for what? He said, just grab a gun. And there's footprints all the way to the door of my house. It had went inside my garage all the way to the door. 911, what are you reporting? Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about 6'9, I don't know.

Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right at him. Uh-oh. You're listening to Sasquatch Chronicles. Check us out online at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. If you've had an encounter, email me. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. My fellow citizens, at this hour, American and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free its people, and to defend the world from grave danger.

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the peace of a troubled world and the hopes of an oppressed people now depend on you welcome to the show everyone thanks for being here tonight got a great show plan for you tonight we'll be talking to Tallinn And Talon had an encounter in Oregon on his parents' property when he returned from the war in Iraq.

And the more Talon and I talked off the air, he was sharing a lot of strange experiences that happened to him over in Iraq. And I said, Talon, would you mind coming on the show and sharing some of that? And so he agreed to. And even a gin that he ran into over in Iraq. And I feel like Talon's earned the right to come on and share whatever he wants to share. chair. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Let's jump into it

tonight. I want to welcome Talon to the show. Talon, thanks for coming on. Oh, thank you for having me. I appreciate it. Yeah, I appreciate you being on. And I know there's a lot of things we're going to get to tonight. What I'd like to start with, actually, is The encounter in Oregon. If you would, would you tell us what you were doing and what happened? It's a northern property there. And so we, you know, we would shed the whole forest to our, you know, to our disposal to play at it. That's where this encounter takes place.

I go Oregon off Highway 26. There's also low, low pass is another major highway right there that runs on the side of the watershed. It. Walk us into it. I know the area well. Tell us what happened. Okay. So, you know, I'm an ex-infantry soldier, you know, coming back from the BS for a few years. And from that point, you know, it just needed personal time. So I would hike a lot in the woods on my own. And I had an ATV and, you know, it had head on out and everybody. And so parked the quad, quad and not taking it. it. And the trail cuts through the power lines and then, you know, winds all around. And, you know,

there's pine trees, dark, dark, deep, dense, old growth, you know, on the left or right-hand side. But then as you get kind of closer to the trail, it kind of turns into more newer growth, smaller pine trees, you know. And so I'm walking, I'm walking down this section. You know, I start to, you know, senses, you know, being ex-military. And then, you know, the woods is my home. and knowing what's going on, you know, it's like you're on patrol or a recon or something like that. And so, you know, it's what you do. You're just naturally or highly aware of what's happening in all your surroundings. And so, you know, I noticed something, you know, a little, a little lines.

And keep in mind, the pines are small pine. But if you'd imagine Christmas trees really dense tightly together, I mean, like, where you can't really go in between and the branches are growing in between in each other, really dense pine trees. And you would be damn near maneuver through these new growth pine trees, super dense. They haven't been thinned out yet. So they run all along the sides of the road, right? Aside, you know, maybe, maybe, I don't know, 20 or 30 feet away, 30 feet away, maybe at this point, 30, 40 feet away, maybe at this point, 30, 40 feet away, somewhere right on that range.

And it takes me a second to realize, like, you know, I start the thing is, you know, I start off kicking, escalation of force, you know. Hey, who's there? You know, I start shouting, you know, and nothing in respect. response and hey, you know, and I start making noise, maybe scared away, you know, there are smaller bears in the area and stuff like that. And, and nothing, you know, this thing still rustling in the trees. I got my attention because now nobody's saying anything, sleeping bag under the stars. In the bush is rustling, right? And it's not making any noise. It's not, not hoot and holler in or you're too dense to be an elk. You know, it's not a bear. It would have done something at

this point. And so, so, you know, I fire off around, you know, in that direction. A turkey gun, half inches, they chopped arounds, right? Magnums, I have it loaded with slugs. There are probably some double-out bucks. He's a hunter who's been in the woods. You know, like, step on a stick wrong, and you crack a stick wrong, you know, animals are running away. You know, they're running from you. Like, they're not, they know humans. They're, they know fear. They know humans. They're not stupid. They're running away from you. You make noises. They're running away from you. Let alone, you fire off a shotgun round. Everything is running for its life.

It's not an animal. So there, it takes care of that. It's something. It said, nobody's talking, nobody's yelling. I mean in the woods, stop shooting. You know, any animal would have taken off by this. We're shooting a fire off trees in this pines. Now, let me tell you, the pine trees are moving violently.

If you could imagine standing in front of us, and you've reached with your hand, and you just start choking, and you start shaking that pines. tree as hard as you can, I went these pine trees removing. So I mean something's shaking these trees. And so it continues,

and it's not just one tree because the vibration is shaking the other trees, you know, because they're also densely growing. And so, as fast as I can thumb rounds into the tube, I'm fired them off. And I'm not even filling the tube because I can't wait that long before I get the next round off. Sometimes I'm only putting two rounds

in, I'm firing on it. I got to get rounds off. And something, at some point, right here for my life. Retreating, I start taking steps backwards into the tube. You know, like at a slow, you know, not slow. So I'm doing one of those, but you're retreating, not as it running away. It's kind of staying with me, moving along in the pining, 100 feet from there. And I'm firing around.

I'll probably fire 100 feet. And this thing still moving with me in the trees. Shaking them, it's shaking them. Nothing screaming, you know, doing, you know, I'm not just some, you know, like I know what's going on. I'm out there with slugs. Magnums. You know, I carry, you know, I carry, you know, I have all that. Well, let me ask you this, Talon, did you see what you were shooting at this point, or was it just the tree?

So it's a dark object. All I can tell you is it's a dark mass in the pine trees. It's a big mass, because you can see it's a big mass in the pine trees. It's a dark object. You know, it's, I guess if I had to compare it to anything size, trees and everything. It was maybe something. I keep in mind, I know how big a grizzly bear is. You know, I've been in an... At least grizzly bear size, if not bigger, to move these pine trees.

These pine trees are 10 to 12 feet tall. I mean, whatever, how many years that old that is. I mean, we're talking, these are... These pine trees trunks are six or six inches, seven inches, maybe, you know? And, yeah, yeah, there's some decent-sized pine trees, and this thing is just shaking them. Now let me tell you, the shake, like, it's a violent shake. And the only other thing I have seen shake something like that is like when a gorilla gets mad.

You watch YouTube videos of like Silverbacked gorillas getting mad. And that's what it seemed like of how violent these trees were shaking. But it never made a noise, even after shouting and shooting, retreating. So I'm about 100 feet away from it now, right? I'm in a desperate situation right now because now I'm in fear from my. my life because there is something. And I realized I got to run. Seeing the trees,

this thing is following me. Just inside the pine, I was on. See it like from me. It's freak and I handed. So I'm firing over my left shoulder. This story takes place right at dusk. It's nighttime.

You lock the doors at nighttime. You don't go out at nighttime there. Everybody knows that. Nobody goes out at night. It's me in. You'd be gone for a couple days. Set in. And I have never been so scared.

in my life is that moment. That affected me. Yeah, I bet. I bet. Did you go back to that area? I've never been back to that area. Yeah. But I have no doubt that all those showcasings are still all in that area. You know, it's kind of an off-the-beaten path a little bit, you know, like nobody's going to be picking up brass shotgun showcasings.

So I'm sure all those showcasings are also there. You know, slugs, you know, and, you start firing some stuff into some, you know, some, you know, I'm sure all those trees, there's got to be scars and all those trees still there. All that stuff is still got to be there at that location. Were you ever able to make out details as far as beyond a black mass? Or was it mainly just kind of a black mass that you were seeing, kind of shake these trees on? I know it was a dark, you call it black, if you will, you know, a dark. I know it had physical size because the way you could see it parting the trees and moving the trees

when it was moving through. Firing shotguns, slugs directly at it. You know, I am a, I'm a highly skilled shooter. We'll say that, you know. Actually has night sights on it as well. You know, this thing,

this thing is, you know, meant for business. I used to own one. I'm out there for protection. Yeah, how you're describing that Mossberg is exactly how I used to own one. Just exact same thing, pistol grip, cut off. And that, I mean, you don't want to be on the working end of one of those things.

Right. And, you know, when you fire off a slug, you know, even a bird shot, you hear it a couple miles away. And you're right. Any bear, any human, any, any, anyone, if it was a human, he would have came out and said, hey, don't shoot me, man. If it would have been a bear, it would have been gone. That's fascinating. And, you know, the other thing, too, about that area, talent, is there is a lot of encounters in that area. There's a ton of encounters in that area.

Yeah, I've heard a few other stories. You know, my mom has stories. You know, some of the neighbors have stories, you know, not too far from when my parents live. I have some apple trees. A lot of people, there's also wild apple trees that grow around. You know, there's little streams and creeks. It's the perfect environment up in the watershed. You know, the watershed's a whole other story. That's their safe haven. And that's where, that's where the bull run bigfoot, you know, that's what I call it. And, you know, I think that's where, it lives or it's clan whatever you want to call them. Nest is those, that location supply is up near Mount Hood in the Bull Run watershed up Highway 26. And also the other side of it is on the Columbia River if you go up that side of it. And that's all, that's all kind of no-go area. It's where all the lakes and the ponds are. And it's supposed to be pure, pristine water, no human, you know, like a, and so it makes a perfect environment for them.

You know, nobody's there. It makes sense. There's every berry, every wildlife, they have water. It meets all the criteria for a great location to live in the Pacific Northwest. Yeah, it's a highly protected area, too. You're right. It's where most of Portland gets water and everything. So it is a highly protected area.

And I want to get to a couple other things, and there's a few questions I want to ask you, but did you ever experience anything else out there regarding Sasquatch? Sure, yeah. There are, you know, a lot of, you know, just don't make sense. They plug into that unexplained category. And, you know, you look around and it's like, oh, well, there's no dead carcasses. There's no dead deer. There's no dead skunks around here.

Like, you never find anything when you go looking for the stints. Not there the next day. Did you ever get the impression you hit this thing with your shotgun? 100%. I had to have hit this thing. I mean, this thing, like double up from 30 feet away. It's going to leave a good spray, right? And now you're talking about a, behind, you know, a skilled, a skilled shooter at that, who's highly vigilant, highly aware, trained shooter.

A train, you know, at that point, I'm two feet behind me or 20 feet behind me. I have no idea. what these things are capable of. If they can move faster than a cheetah, animals have superpowers, West. You know, birds can fly. That's a pretty amazing power. Fish can swim and live underwater. That's an amazing power.

Cheetahs can run fast. All these different species of animals have different. But what's not to say, sure, this thing can move fast. I'm sure whatever this was. Good point. It's hard to argue any of that. Let's talk a little bit about the military, but before we do, Talon, what do you think, Sasquatch is?

I'm really curious to hear your opinion on it. Sure. Well, you know, just in my opinion, I do believe it's a physical flesh and blood creature. You know, I believe that ability, like, yeah, maybe it can run amazingly fast. Maybe it can jump. Maybe it can swing. Maybe, you know, maybe it's about the hide-and-seek champion. Maybe it truly is.

Maybe that's its special power. So, but I do believe it's flesh and blood. I believe it's a big physical creature that bleeds. I think it's something that society and mankind and different regions, you know, of the United States and the world, you know. And this is not just a U.S. This is a creature that can definitely. Well, you know, one of the things I want to ask you switching gears with regard to your military service, would you tell the story about the guy that got healed?

Can you get kind of, tell us what happened before you ran into this guy, and then kind of tell us what happened when you ran into this guy. I'm really, I'm fascinated by this. And I will change a few things just to protect a few things. This is Fort Hood, Texas, First Calvary Division, forces at times. And so, you know, we do a lot of different. My squad, what are going to call him Sam. And this is a lot of... This is on Iraq or Afghanistan?

No, this is in Fort Hood, Texas. Oh, okay, okay. We're training, we're doing some training on site, some urban training, and we're ripping knee up in shape and ended up going to the hospital on base, and he needed knee surgery. They had all these, you know, MRIs and I guess he needed knee surgery. He ripped a bunch of stuff in his knee. And so they gave him a surgery date.

It was a couple of three date. So in the meantime, we're doing our daily stuff. We have to walk down to the motor pool a couple blocks away. We're all our Bradley using different military vehicles. Our motor pool is, you know. So we're walking down the road, you know, one of the roads that are on base. I'd seen him a lot. I'd seen his truck one of the units right around me.

I'd seen him drive by a million times. I knew his truck. So one day, what crutches is we're walking down to the motor pool. And this truck passes us and pulls over. in front of us. And he jumps out, you know, I'll give you guys a ride. Where are you guys going? You know, I see you got somebody on crutches. You know, here I'll give you a lift. Where you guys got to go? Sergeant K. So Sergeant K, so as soon as the tailgate drops, he's kind of, he's laying, he's laying in the tailgate. But before he gets off, before he dangles his legs over or anything, busted up.

And I could heal you right now. Would you let me heal you? I'm loaded yet, and, you know, and we're kind of chuckling, you know, like BS and Serious, if I can heal you right now, Sam, would you let me heal you? And Sam is, of course, yeah, sure, definitely. Of course, yeah, if you can make me better, I'm all for it. Heal me. You can see his knee, you know. And Sergeant Kaye was talking in tongues is the best way.

There's something, just gibbering. He's gone for about a minute, talking tongues. He's got his eyes closed. He's a pretty buffed black guy. You know what I mean? He's no joke. And no point did Sam seem like he was in pain. Kay takes his hand, Sam's knee.

Really, you're healed. It's like, you don't need those crutches anymore. On two feet. Healed, you're done. That's it. Right there in front of our eyes. Just like that instantly. He goes back, obviously, you know, he goes back to the hospital.

They take more MRIs and stuff like that. And he is healed. It has gone off the MRIs. Did you ever talk to Sergeant Kay and be like, how did you? So, so the story gets a little weird. day, my ETS date, when I went to leave the Army and I did my time, honorably, my ETS date, every how many days in a wake up, and I'm battalion. My last day, battalion, I see this full coincidence. I don't know what you want to call it. Story, I mean, when I saw him heal somebody, that guy was the guy that signed me out of the Army that day at Battalion. And it's like I almost felt like he was watching me, you know? And maybe he keeps an eye on the other guys, too. I don't. don't know. But it's just, man, that's too much of a coincidence. I don't know. Like, he was the

guy that signed me out on my exit day. Yeah, he sounds like a good man. Yeah, and I'll tell you this. I don't want to say his full name, but it's a biblical name. And I'm not a religious person at all, at all. I've never been religious, you know, I respect all religions. I have appreciation for different people of religions. I get it. You know what I mean? I'm not a hater. you know, I'm just not into that, you know, and I had a biblical name, and it was kind of weird, you know, and I didn't remember a few people, you know, and somebody had pointed that out to me. They're like, whoa, do you know what that name is? And I had no idea. I think, you know, you look it up and go out of coincidence. So I don't know. I'm not religious, though. Yeah, it is weird. I mean, you see guys do that on TV, and I usually call BS on it, but you do hear accounts of people healing each other in this manner.

and I've never seen it, but that doesn't mean much. I mean, who knows what goes on. I mean, you saw it with your own eyes, and obviously the doctor saw it. That's fascinating, man. Let me ask you, over in the Middle East, what's the weirdest thing you ever saw? You know, I've seen some pretty weird stuff, and I don't know. I don't know if it's just me and, like, I'm a little bit more in tune. But the weirdest thing in Iraq, you know, there's some weird stuff that goes on.

That place has a lot of special energies and gravitation. history. And, you know, randomly, once again, there is a lot of biblical history in Iraq. History and, and, and, uh, some people have special powers. And I believe, uh, you know, and I've seen right with my own eyes. I have seen a human walk on a wall. Tell me about that. a wall, walk straight up a wall, traumatizing. This story is a very traumatizing. Please forgive me if I'm a little slow and a little stutter and a little stagger in my voice.

Yeah, take your time. This is a very, very powerful story. And so this takes place. And Bob, there was a military base called CKV in Uniteauze in. I'd say U.S. and Fawb. It's a, you know, I have a hot meal and shower and, like, you know, get bulletproof windows fixed on vehicles. and that kind of stuff. You know, you stay in these little plywood bungalows,

you know, it's just a dirty mattress here and there throughout the little plywood huts and in between the sand-proof, you know, like in case you get mortar attacks and stuff like that, you know, you can hide behind them. The fighting position as well. So these hesco barriers, they make little alleyways on this KV-Fob.

And, you know, I wasn't necessarily going to the shower room. I remember being fully dressed. and, you know, in my uniform, you know, and walking down this little, as I'm walking, you know, there's little in between other buildings. But you're always watching your back. You're looking left and right. Even though because you're on a base, it doesn't mean you're safe. You still got to worry about being kidnapped and killed and everything else. So you're always watching your back. I'm just walking. 20 feet away from me or so, maybe 20, 30 feet away from me at the most. somebody, an Arab guy, standing on the side of the wall, not on the ground, on the side of the wall. So his body was extending out horizontal.

This is about 20, 30 feet away from me. And then he extended out horizontal. And he was just standing there like he was walking straight up. So his face orientation would have been, he would have been looking at the sky as he was walking up the side of the building. He was about six feet, five, six feet off the ground. And so I'm walking, and I see this. And it takes me a second to process, obviously, right? So I'm in mid-stride.

It takes me a step or two to realize, what the F did I just see? So I stop, words, you know, so my head can kind of peek back to what I saw. Standing right there, not on the wall anymore. Standing there, looking at me, kind of like with a serious evil mad dog kind of face with his arms crossed. You freak out. What am I? I continue walking. I continue walking.

I continue walking. It affected me. I told higher-ups. The next week I remember distinctly, I didn't talk to anybody. Week after that, about PTSD. It changes the way you look at life. Everything you've ever known. That you've ever been told, everything you've ever been taught in school and education and higher education.

And I'm a pretty educated higher education person. And you're not supposed to see people standing on the side of it. the wall. Yeah, it's strange. It's really strange. Do you think he was physical? Or do you think, I mean, do you think it was an actual person? He was a physical person. No, no, no, no. He was a physical person. He was a physical person. He knew that I saw him when I was walking by. He knew that he was seen. He'd been caught. He'd been seen. Maybe, maybe I'm a little more in tune. You know, I've been told I have a special birthday, you know? And, uh, if that, you know, I should write a book. You know, I should have a series of books with the stuff I've seen and experienced in my lifetime.

And a vast majority of it is, yeah, military stuff. You're exposed to so much. You know, and you're talking about government stuff. You get to handle government equipment. That's a whole other story. Your vehicle systems. Did you see something in the sky? The sky is alive, Wes.

I mean, the U.P.I. I could talk for any atmosphere. You know, you always hear about all others. So what's the difference between government? And I believe there is. Of course, those are sensitive items in the military. You lose one of those? You know, they stop everything.

They'll have 200 people looking for a pair of lost nods, you know, PBS 14s in the mud. I've seen it happen. I've seen hundreds of people looking for a sensitive item. There's something special about those. What's so special about those? Because you can see different things. So the sky. Forgive me for a moment.

But so when you look up and was it ships, is that where you're describing, is what you're seeing when you look up with these optics? It takes place in probably January 2001. Yeah, it had a starting to get exposed. I want to know what's out there, West. Right? Doesn't everybody? So I'm looking up. And in the field of the view of, you know, looking through the nods, you can see that the sky is moving.

Not right above me. I'm talking high atmosphere. I'm talking a couple of miles. miles up, high, high atmosphere. Corrections, and each dot is leaving a trail behind it, which means these things are moving very fast. Everywhere, a web of... In one field of view, you uncountable objects.

And now, like I said, I know what's going on in the sky. I know there's 20 or 30,000 satellites. I know that. There might be 100,000 satellites. Countable, just in my one section, my one field of view. What do you think it is? You know, I believe I always nature, you know what I mean?

Lifefully, live. Live, something's alive. I don't know if they're vehicles because the way they moved more was a natural of those in the trails. I don't think it was vehicle. It could be vehicles.

They reminded me of being something organism, large organism with all these multiple moving pieces. Yeah, strange, man. You know, we don't look up in the sky anymore. We really don't take the top. We're too busy looking at our phones to look at the sky, but there is weird stuff that goes on up there. That's bizarre, man. That makes me wonder what it was. You know, in a military experience when you go overseas and you end up

in places like Iraq and Afghanistan, I'm sure lots of many other places, you see, you can definitely see things moving in the sky. And people say, oh, you're in a war zone. You're going to see all kinds of weird things in the United States as well. And, you know, we're not in a war zone. right now. There's no secret. Yeah, maybe there's test stuff. Sure, I get that. Yeah, I get it. I get what you're saying. Yeah, there's so many bizarre things. And remember me, I want to tell you

a story about out there in wartime with a good friend of mine who's in special forces. He told me the story. It broke my heart when I heard the story. And if I asked any questions about the military or what happened over there, just say, hey, I'm not going to talk about that. You're not going to hurt my feelings at all talent. I completely get it.

The gin that you and I were talking about, was that the Arab man that you saw that was going up the wall? Or was that something different? So, yes. So, no, yes. The gin, I believe, I saw was an Arab guy standing

on the wall. And at the time, I didn't know it was a gin. I didn't know anything about what a gin was or until years later, worked up. And I was like, oh, that's what it's called. I know it all about this. And, you know, there's like, oh, I'm not the only person, you know, inside and the gears ticking of like, if it was a gin, and I have no other way to explain it. You know, just advancing at me, you know, when he jumped off the wall.

Well, I didn't see him jump off the wall. It's when I leaned back. I don't even know. I couldn't. Like, he knew he was waiting for me to step backwards and look at him. He wanted to be seen. And maybe he stood on the wall and waited for the next person to walk by. Maybe I was a chosen one.

I don't know. Maybe it could have been anybody. Maybe it was an accident. Maybe he was doing his morning stretches and, you know, afternoon stretches or whatever. And I caught him. You know, I don't know what he was doing. I hear you. But the carp that he was wearing and his clothing down, but he was standing on the wall horizontal.

It wasn't like that. His clothing stayed with his body. His clothing was obviously in the same, like, I want to call it, gravitational field as his physical body. He was in a bubble or whatever. ever was. Yeah, it's bizarre. That's the best way I can describe it.

It's bizarre. That really truly affected me, and I tried to tell a lot of people and nobody wanted to listen. Iraq and the province. It would bother me, Talon. I mean, I mean, how do you explain that to someone, really? I mean, he defies all logic. And, but when you start getting into, you know, I mean, he goes to like even the

skin walkers, the Native Americans talk about over here, it seems like they defy logic. You know, they defy gravity. They defy gravity. everything we know about the world, they seem to bend around it. And that's bizarre that you saw that guy. Can I ask you, when you were over there, what was the most terrified that you were? Do you remember a moment when you were the absolute moment, beyond the guy on the wall? But, I mean, it could have been a shootout, could have been anything.

Do you remember the moment when you were the most terrified over there? A machine gun fire. A lot of machine gun and fire involved, you know, close proximity. vehicle to vehicle, those type of incidences, people burning, bodies burning right in front of you. There's some pretty wild moments. And so I've seen it all. I've seen everything.

I've seen government technology. That's a whole another. Some things that I've witnessed being tested in Iraq, and you're just now starting to hear about them real recently. And these are things I saw in 2008, in particular, you know, lasers. It seemed like a drill bit cut them. That's how clean cut.

In an incident, you know, the three people inside got hurt. Weapons on our own battle projects, you know, and then to test a war scenario for the team. You started that vehicle. You have to stand there with your backs to it, and a couple of people. And, you know, there was a size hole and drill hole right through the whole thing.

And sure the people did get hurt, and I'm sure there was some type of, of heat and something going on inside with all that, obviously, incident happening inside. And the 3CID comes out, you know, they come out of a special trigger about your next, whatever for the day, you know, thinking about where you're going to eat dinner that night, you know, what you're going to eat Pop-Tart, maybe some beef jerky, maybe some. That's terrifying. So I do know, I do know the government has some high-power stuff.

I hope they don't come after me now. No, I think I've actually read about them using those lasers before. I don't think that's anything new. And, you know, they do test on military. I mean, when he signed up for the military, I hate to say it, but your property, your property of the U.S. government. So they can do what they want,

as terrible as that sounds. I can't even imagine being over in Iraq. And having, it's one of those things to where I would almost start to hate the people. And it's not really the people's fault. But I've watched, again, I've never served. So I'm talking out of my eyes. when I talk about this, but I've watched a lot of things where guys are talking about, you don't really know who your enemy is.

I mean, a woman will walk down the street and then as she passes you, we'll pick up an AK-47 or whip an AK-47 out and start blasting everyone. And so you don't really know who's your enemy and who's, and I can't imagine living with that day-to-day, you know, even kids pick up weapons, start firing at the truth. You know, it's just, it's madness. It's complete madness. Yeah, you know, they do affect you, you know, yeah, use the target, you know, you never know, you just become super hyper, you know, hyper vigilant and aware of your surroundings. Yeah, what was the hardest thing coming back for you?

Ooh, definitely adapting, you know, used to carpet, you know, you're thankful for carpet, you're thankful for running water, you're thankful for green grass and trees, you're thankful for a whole lot more in this world. And, you know, it kind of, you open your eyes on it. everything on the world and really how good we as Americans have it here in the United States that the rest of the world doesn't quite live how we live. And, you know, we should be aware and respect that and not abuse that. You're just, you're thankful for what you're trying to do is come home every day. You know, at that point, everything is on the wayside. You're not worried about all the dumb stuff. You're just worried about that right now. I'm trying to know, the next day, And then you're worried about coming home.

You're just trying to get home. You do whatever. What you're trying to do is just come home alive. Maybe different people have different experiences. Maybe some people never left the Fobits. You know, the Fobits out there, you know. They just stay on base, you know, and they don't even wear body armor.

They don't even know what that is. They just play basketball out day and push pencils, you know. There are those people. And sure, I guess they are needed. They need to make sure they let people know they were in that position and they weren't the Rambo. Well, can I ask you, was it hard going from a place where, for the most part, everyone would like to see you dead,

and then coming to a place where no one's shooting at you. No one's really, you know, like your Sasquatch encounter. I mean, you went into full-blown, and I don't mean this under derogatory way, but you went into full-blown soldier mode, streets of Iraq, I'm going to take care of this threat. Is it hard to go from living that lifestyle? Because I would imagine you have to almost become something else to survive in that environment to an environment now to where you're home and no one shooting at you. Is that difficult? And forgive me, I've never served.

So that's why I'm asking. No problem. No worries. I mean, sure, it's definitely difficult, you know. A lot of soldiers, when they come home, they have units. So they come back and they have support groups and support units. and for months after their return, they have support. And they're kept under tight watch,

and, you know, they're given a schedule every day. And that wasn't the case through me. You know, and, you know, like in the United States, which is just to sign a couple of two arms and two legs, any gunshot wounds. And then, you know, you sign out and you're out, you know, and then like, oh, okay, you're out, where do you want to fly to? We'll fly you anywhere real quick,

give you back home. And then so, you know, I actually, you know, fly back to PDX in Portland and just get off the plane. And, you know, I had no support group. I was... What's that there? Inactive readiness reserve, which I had done my four years. And, you know, there's orders in there, you know, with itinerary, you know, and everything. And I'll see you in 21 days. Don't be late. You're kidding me? I've been out for four years. I mean, I had to stop all my classes and everything. you know, and time to sign a couple boxes of checks for my mom and tell my mom anything comes for me.

I mean, for a year. So I spent all of 08 kind of just scrounged up and gallered up from however they do with a drawing or whatever. We didn't have a unit. So when a PDX right now, like, but no, it was a ride at PDX. And it's a little bit difficult, a little bit different than most soldier's scenario. So you see everybody different, you know, like. like, I didn't really have, say, out processing and, like, you know, I'm sure I haven't been through it. I wouldn't know, but I would imagine, you know, that when soldiers come back, their unit has,

lots of briefings, they, you know, reassimulate back into society. And I never got any of that. So, so you definitely look at everybody, you know, you're there having me more than anybody else. Of course, I'm looking over my shoulder. I'm watching everybody, everything. You have to be aware of everybody. You know, it's not, like you said, like a lady jumping out, you know, at the grocery store, you know, in the middle of the aisle, you know, and with an AK-47 shoot me in the grocery store. You know, sure, I don't have to worry about that.

That's not a threat you really have to worry about, you know, but there's other things that are difficult that you worry about. You know, there still are bad people to start incidences. And so you have to be aware of those things. You know, I choose to be aware. Yeah, I understand. What's the one thing that haunt you the most from your service? After you came back, if there was one thing where you could go, I wish that never happened, that really haunt you today.

What would that be? Yeah, well, beyond the Arab guy. Is there anything else that really haunt you from being over there? You can't erase things. You can't forget things. What you see is what you see. You know, you hear, you hear your senses. sensory, and I would have to say it would be in the sensory category is what you're asking.

It's those things that you, even things you taste and all that stuff, you can't forget that. You can never forget that. Life-altering moments. Collection of the senses. I bet you most of your veterans out there that are listening right now, they know what I'm talking. You see. And those things stick with you. Yeah. I can imagine. Well, I can't imagine. and I won't pretend to imagine, but, you know, I always thought that, too, is, you know, it would be so hard, I think, no matter how much you, obvious it's a war, and that's the enemy, and but I would imagine, like, killing someone, I think, would really bother me. But you're in a position where you either kill someone or you're going to be killed. So there really is the time for, hey, let's be, you know, I'm going to let my conscious take over.

You let your conscience take over in a situation like that, and I think you're dead. Yeah, true. Go ahead. You know, like I just mentioned a few moments ago, you know, everybody's just trying to come home. And you do what you've got to do, whatever it is, you're trying to come home alive. and so that changes you life

really changes the core of you it changes your thought your outlook on everything and then you just come home and then everybody you know is just happy go lucky and you know there's aisles of dog food

at the grocery store and you just came from a place where like they don't even have bottled water and they're eating a dead goat you know it's like you lot of those things start to affect you too you know as you become aware and you've seen more of life.

And it's just those are things you've got to live with. You know, those are all experiences that you deal with and see. Yeah. No, I agree, man. And, you know, it's very cliche to say thank you for your service, but I mean, thank you for his service and God bless you, man. I was joking with Tony Merkel one time. You know, back when North Korea was threatening to,

fire off and nuke at us. And I was like, you know, we have bigger and baddered nukes, plus we have our military. I mean, they're screwed if we go over there. We'll level the place if we go over there. And it's because of guys like you that will pick up a weapon and stand opposed, you know, and without you guys, we would be, you know, we wouldn't be the greatest nation on earth. Just wouldn't happen. Yeah, you know, I have a mind's sight. You know, here it is, uh, 2019 and to light. And so, you know, I have a lot of mixed feelings about, uh, the whole, the whole Iraq war and Afghanistan wars and, and, you know, what our purpose.

And, and it's just, I don't believe it. No, it never does. I think any war doesn't make sense. I can't think of any war that's really, it's kind of like, uh, you know, a fight. Who wins a fight? In reality, no one wins a fight. fight. Everyone kind of loses. Everybody loses. Yeah, and that's the same. Especially the civilians of whatever country. You know, like, there's no good outcome. There's no good outcome. Yeah, and it's a mess over there, man. It's a complete mess over there still in Iraq and

Afghanistan. Is there any weird cryptids that they ever talk about in Iraq? I know in Afghanistan they talk about... The giants of Afghanistan? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you hear those. stories. You know, I never saw anything. I mean, I mean, hearsay. You always, you know, you hear people talking about it, but as you hear people mentioning it, you know, in service and stuff, and it's not. Did anyone tell you about giants over there that they had seen one or kind of, you know, firsthand that was passed on to you? Yeah, I mean, well, once again, we're talking about the Middle East and there's a lot of energy fields and a lot of magnetic fields. And, you know,

that all kind of end up there. Maybe things are attracted. I do personally believe that, yes, there was species of large bones-type human, something that walked on this earth. And there's a lot of history there, and there's a lot of even more stuff. I mean, not necessarily in Iraq, but in Egypt under the Giza Plateau, they've just discovered mass ton of it. Maybe they've known, maybe they haven't known it.

But either way, it's just they're letting it out. It's just coming to light now that there's a lot of stuff there. And so that's over that sector of the world too, you know, and, you know, Iraq, and, you know, you have the two rivers there, your phaides, and the way, the two major rivers run in the desert, there's palm trees, there's water, there is stuff like that. Like in Jordan, you know, and then Petra and stuff like that, there are places, it's not just all sand, you know, there are regions and mountains like in Afghanistan, and there's a lot of places where that could support life is what I'm trying to say. and probably in that region of the world. I mean, there would have to be. It makes sense that there are. Yeah, I've talked to a few guys that served, and I brought up the Kenar giant, you know, that giant Afghanistan,

and a few of the guys that I brought it up to were, these aren't the men you want to mess around with. I mean, these men are terrifying men, I would imagine, in battle. And I brought it up, and I kind of brought it up in joking. And these are two separate guys that are in kind of a special forces unit. And one of the guys looked at me straight face, didn't laugh. And he goes, that's a true story. That actually happened.

He goes, I know the guy that was there. And I was shocked when he said that. I mean, I kind of thought it was a true story. But when you hear a guy that goes, yeah, I know the guy that was there. And this guy is, I mean, there's no BS with this guy. Usually with the most military guys, there's no BS. but there's no BS with this guy. And he goes, yeah, it's a true story.

I know the guy that was there. And he absolutely came out of that cave and killed the first unit that came through. And so when you hear stuff like that, you're like, what the hell's going on? You know what I mean? I mean, it makes sense because, you know, you have high surveillance. You know, you have drones with, you know, highly sensitive, you know, surveillance equipment on these drones. And they're looking for terrorists. They're looking for caves.

They're on the hunt, right? they got all these predator drones. They got fleets of people flying these things, you know, from half a world away. And for once in a lifetime, they finally got some high power equipment looking down on the ground trying to find something, trying to find somebody.

But instead of finding somebody, they find something. Like, what are you supposed to do? How do you report that up to your hire? Like, you're looking at the screen, you know, like you get your finger on the trigger. You're going through your chain of command, you know, if you can fire on this thing. And you've got to, you know, eventually get permission to fire on this thing,

you know? and like, I mean, how do you call that in? Like, I don't know. I got this thing on my screen. I mean, like, I'm identified, you know. Fire, you know, target, target, target. It's gone, you know. And what do you, the next place?

You've already got helicopters there. You've already got ground support. You've got everything you could ever need. And so it would make sense. Something could be found, you know, if they had the resources. If you put the right resources to it, you could probably find anything on this planet. I mean, look, they found bin Laden, right? They found Saddam in a little, you know, spider hole.

Like, I mean, they could find anything. And so you would think with the government would have the right equipment. They were the resources. We're at the right place at the right time. And they probably, are you kidding me? Of course you're taking the shot. Go scoop that bad boy up and put it on a Black Hawk, man. Bring that thing back.

I want to see it. You know, that's what some general is saying. And you and there is something's in the wrong place at the wrong time. And we got some other troops coming in. We got something coming this way. or we've got some convoy coming down through this, this canyon. And so anything within this section, you know, it's got to be cleared. And so, yeah, I mean, I have no doubt if anything was there, they would take it out.

Yeah, it's terrifying, man. It's terrifying what's actually going on in this world. You know what I mean? I think we get the filtered version as far as what's going on, but most of us don't know what the real story is and what's actually going on. My theory, can I tell you my theory on Iraq? So weapons of mass destruction, I don't think, had anything to do with Saddam at all. And I'll tell you why. The actual weapon of mass destruction was discovered the day before we went in Iraq, and it was Nimrod's body.

And they dug them up. I watched the whole thing the day before we, you know who Nimrod was, right, from the Bible. And so they dug him up. And the lady that dug him up said, he, looked like he had died yesterday. He didn't look like he had been there for thousands of years. It was underneath the Euphrates River. And when they dug him up, or she dug him up, and she said he was a giant, he was this giant manlike thing. And it was Nimrod or Gilgamesh, or, you know, he goes by different names. Now, here's the part. If they, there's a picture of a bunch

of military guys standing around Nimrod's tomb. And then the Bible, It talks about the Antichrist. I believe it's in Revelations. It talks about don't go looking for him. You'll find him in the desert. And when they were showing Nimrod's body, or there's a picture of a bunch of military personnel standing around the tomb. And they'll have eagles on their uniforms. Well, what's interesting about that, and not to go off onto the Bible, so forgive me.

But in that particular scripture, it says he was surrounded by eagles. And what's weird is in that picture, all these military guys are standing around the tomb and they all have an eagle on their uniform. And I think that was, now can you imagine you can take Beth Midler, for example, she's recreated her dog three times. I believe it's Beth Midler, recreated her dog three times through DNA. She's just cloning her dog over and over and over again. Can you imagine if they could take Nimrod and recreate him? I think he was the true weapon of mass destruction they were looking for. I don't think had anything to do with Saddam.

I think Saddam was just kind of a cover. You know, because, of course, he's going to say I have weapons and I have this and I have that. I think in that part of the country, you almost have to bluff. It's kind of like poker. You know, you got all these surrounding countries. You got Iran. You got all these other countries. Of course, you've got to say I got the biggest gun because they're all waiting to

attack each other. You have to. Exactly. You have to, you have to, yeah, like you said, a game of poker. And I think he was just running his mouth. I don't think he ever had anything. And I think we knew he didn't have anything. And it's interesting because after we went into Iraq, on top of Nimrod's tomb now as a military base, which is bizarre.

I'm not surprised. So about the tomb, bases I was at, there was a little oasis, a bunch of palm trees out. It was actually kind of bigger. I would say, you know, maybe, maybe, I don't know, I have to. size of a football field. And there was team link all around it and stuff. And, you know, there was always, I drive by it every once in a while. There was always some Arab guys out in front.

So one time I decided to stop and I talked to them. And they had told me that nobody could go in there, that only certain, certain, certain, I guess, Muslim, certain Arabs, you know, certain people could go in there. No Americans could go in there because this is a holy place where Abraham stones of Abraham, I found out about this, that the billion dollars of gold bars in Iraq that were there, that I believe that's why the U.S. went into Iraq to get the gold. You know, couldn't get it. They loaded it on the aircraft, and they went to take off and fly down the runway, and the aircraft couldn't get off the ground.

And, you know, long story short, is they find that the water tanker or the fuel tanker truck will gold bars. somebody had screwed up in the flight math for the load. Yeah, it could be. That's bizarre, man. That's really bizarre. It didn't shock me one bit, though. I don't think a lot of times you go to war for, it's kind of like the cat and mouse game they're playing right now with Iran.

There's more going on there than Iran just, you know, buzzing our ships or shooting down our drones or, and why the hell is our drone so close to Iran anyway for them to shoot it down? and I think we're provoking another fight. Honestly, I think we're trying to provoke another fight. And this goes, I mean, we could talk for five hours on this, but I think it goes down to the central bank. Iran doesn't have the central bank.

Guess who else didn't have the central bank who now has it, Iraq? Right. And it's sure funny how money, it's disgusting, is what it is, really. Greed, you know, and it's, You know, I'm not sure what's happening in the world right now, but greed. Everybody right now is money hungry and trying to just do whatever they can to get as much money as they can, as fast as here. There's a lot of uncertainty about the future. So I think there's a mad, there's a scramble right now, you know, across the planet, you know,

in business and industry and companies and organizations. And there is much money and make as much profit. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. You know, I have another experience I would love to tell you, Wes. Sure, take it away. Okay, this is a story. It takes place in Long Beach, California. And it takes place November 2011 or November 2012.

I would have to look at some stuff. Either way, it was an evening time, and there's the Queen Mary there. And it's a big ship here. There's hotel attraction for Southern California and for people of Long Beach in the area, the Queen Mary. maybe about 9 or 10 o'clock, maybe about 10 o'clock in the evening. It's dark out. And I'm coming off the Queen Mary and I'm walking down the sidewalk right on the side. There's a Russian submarine.

It's parked there. I don't know. It's old. You can take tours of it and stuff. So this incident happens right next to the Queen Mary 20 feet from the Russian submarine. So I'm walking. And as I look up, I come to a stop. Something tells me to stop, maybe about...

a thousand feet up in the air, maybe. The object says there's nothing related to, you know, in the background or anything like that for scale. Yeah. But I don't know. Maybe 40 feet or something like that. This was a spherical object. It was round. It was a spherical ball craft, if you'd call it.

And it was more of a dull gray, maybe a thousand feet up in the air. Maybe a little less, maybe 800. Maybe you can see this thing. And the lights from port, you know, all the shipping lights from shipping lights from shipping. shipping container offload and stuff on the port there. All the residual light in the air is kind of just making this thing, you know, so I can see it. It's putting some light on it, you know. And so I have a clear view at this thing.

And I'm looking at it for four or five seconds. And I'm just amazed at what I'm looking at in the direction of Catalina Island, if you're familiar, shoots off out over the ocean. It left so fast, it left a streak of light. And it just, I mean, straight fast. I mean, from zero to as fast as it takes to make a visual streak of light in the sky, you know, in my vision, for my vision. And encounters and experiences as well. But this just kind of stuff just solidifies everything. Now, was that thing I saw?

Was it, was it, was it, was it, was it, was it, was it, some other countries government? Was it, I couldn't tell you, I don't know, I can't, I don't know, but all I can tell you is, guy and it was a round ball object. I've never and that's how fast it moved. I've never seen that. So that's something that defies everything you've ever known, anything you've ever been taught in school and education.

You know, like you're taught that things only move so fast, you know. You've only seen things move so fast in your life. And so your scale of speed is only tops out at like what, a race car, a jet, what, what, what, a space shuttle, you know, like a satellite moving, you know,

It's a pretty fast object. You know, but I mean, sure, you can see satellites occasionally in the sky, and you know they're high, so you know they're moving fast and Earth, you know, like things that move fast, I mean, what, fighter jets, rockets, missiles? You know, some missiles move really fast. Did it make a sound, you know, at all? It was, I heard no sound. Dead quiet.

Dead quiet. So, keep in mind, I wear hearing aids for machine gun fire. I can't hear hear. I do speak with a little bit of a speech impediment just because, you know, I can't quite hear all the syllables. You know, I know what to say, but I can't even notice. Didn't even notice. Yeah. Well, I appreciate that. And I would imagine, you know, being in the military and being over in Iraq and, you know, the time that you served, you've seen probably just about every flying object there is, you know, as far as... I've seen B2 stealth bombers. You know, I've seen aircraft fly over me. I remember when time I got out of a vehicle. I literally stepped out of the vehicle in this

canyon out of a vehicle to stretch my legs. I'm not even kidding you. 200 feet above me, the B-2 stealth bomber. It didn't make one sound, it didn't make one whisper, it was a glider. The only way I can describe this thing is it glided over the top of me, 200 feet above me and didn't make one whisper. If I hadn't looked up in broad daylight, you wouldn't even have seen thing. You would never see it coming. Nobody would ever see it coming. You'd never hear it coming. There's no nothing. It just glides. And that's the kind of technology we're talking about. And how old is that technology? I mean, like 20, 30, 40 years old. Imagine what we've got now.

Yeah, that's scary. Let me ask you, that thing you saw in San Diego, was that the only time you'd ever seen an unidentified flying object that you could Yeah, Long Beach, Long Beach, California, yes. That, you know, there's a lot of other, you know, babies and who knows what they are. I've truly never seen experience laws that I am aware of. Just something have to move to make a smear, to make a, you know, like, what do they call it, Hyperdrive, you know, what was that Star Trek? Yeah.

The Hyperdrive, you know, and you would see all the stars kind of smear and align and blur as the vehicles. starts to advance and speed. That's the best way to describe is how fast I saw this vehicle move. Hope it's us. I hope that's a U.S. insignia on that craft, you know, flying around. He was looking at me. When I was looking up at it for those few seconds before it flew off, I always have this feeling, this sensation of, like, it's like locked on to me.

Like, it's optics or whatever it is. It's viewing me. and the moment like it takes it a second to realize like oh that human whoever you know me that person down there have to leave you know anybody who's in the infantry you know I'm up they see me I'm down you know it takes a couple seconds sometimes through you know a process or something or sop or or your protocol or just the thought process you know and signal process it takes a second or two some maybe once that craft realized it had been spotted then it hit the hit the hyperdoll Yeah, that's fascinating, man. Makes you wonder. Makes you really wonder. And if it is us, it makes you wonder where they got that technology from. That would be my first question.

Right. You know, that brings us to, you know, I mean, there's a whole thought about that if you're aware of the secrets. It's a secret stealth space, similar to the space shuttle, but very small in size 37 programs with that. It's a secret stealth space program. It leaves Earth, and it's gone. for a year or two. And it comes back all secret, and they, you know, wear radioactive suits around it when it lands, information on the internet about it. And, you know,

what's that aircraft doing? You know, like, that's just one. The things we're not privy to. You know, and I understand why. The government's security reasons. You know, we have to stay on top. We have to be ahead of the game. We have to be ahead of the enemy.

You know, by 10 or 20 years in technology advancements. you know, everything, any technology that comes out now, I mean, that's old hat. I mean, that's, they started working on that 10 or 20 years ago. They've already been through all the testing phases, you know, like lasers in the battlefield. They've done all those testing come to light now. We finally get to reveal one of our cards, one of our secret weapons or stealth objects or some secret object or program or weapon we've developed, you know.

So we keep those in our back pocket. They're like the ace in your back pocket. And when the government, you know, they have to pull out one other aces in their back pocket. So they keep all that stuff secret, super secret, you know, until they really, really have to reveal it, we'll have to use it. And then it's going to be, you know, it's going to come to light, you know, when some stealth helicopter crashes or something, you know. Yeah, I hear you. Well, like I said, it's a Bigfoot show, but I was fascinated by, no, I was fascinated by all the other stuff that you talked about. And in my mind, you've earned the right to come on and say whatever you want to say, man.

And I enjoy talking with you. I don't know what the deal with the guy in Iraq was is bizarre. It's really bizarre. It doesn't shock me. There's not much that shocks me anymore, really. Right. But I appreciate you coming on, Talon, and sharing. I appreciate it.

You know, I'm currently, I'm in Prescott, Arizona. that and and you know I have and in my experiences here in the Prescott in the middle of the you know

I just I'm walking the woods and you come across a lot of unexplainable stuff in the woods and I come across a lot of rocks

that are tipped over that I don't know of anything that could tip tip of these heavy rocks over and you know nothing and you can see

the impression in the ground these rocks have been in the ground and just tipped him over. There's no evidence of somebody digging under the rock, nobody's pulling the rock over and tipping it over. I'm in the middle of nowhere

for one. The signs of any reason why the rock would be tipped over. No weather incident. I don't see any sign. My first thought was, you know, a squatch is looking for grubs or a chipmunk ran under this rock. And

this thing just picked it up, you know, because there's no real it's a, you know, undisturbed ground. And then all of a sudden you have a rock tip. Undisturbed underneath it. You can see the weather, the witness mark of where the rock was. You can see the dirt on the bottom of the rock that matches the witness mark on the ground. And it kind of, you know, there's some things going on out there.

There are stories, you know, here in the high country. And, you know, this is Native American country. Stories, and these are real stories. and people have to respect that there's a large area. There's a lot of unexplored woods, a lot of uncharted in the ice shirt's charted, but really off the beaten path. No reason to go.

I mean, you got me. Yeah, well, keep your eyes and yours open while you're out there, and give me any updates when you're out there doing your hikes, will you? Let me know if you come across anything. This is something I'm very passionate about, you know, because my experience is,

you know, I heard anything like that. What type of sound did you get back? You know, I make a call, you know, I don't know. I make a call, it's more like a, a whoo-who-who-who-who-who-who-hoo-who-who-ho. Something like a definitely, and I do that loud, deep throat. I mean, you can hear it far, right? And so the sound I hear back,

it sounded like it was maybe, who knows how far, because, you know, sound travel is pretty far when you're in the wood like that, you know, these little canyon sound travel, maybe a thousand feet from me, maybe 500 feet, if I can make it like a... Well, be careful, man. Be careful doing that. You know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah. So I don't know. You know, I'm armed. You know, I carry a 45. I carry, you know, I carry an AR-15 around magazines. So my biggest regret from retreat, I would advance. Instead of taking all those and, you know, the shots retreat. Yeah, be careful doing that, though, too.

Because we don't know quite what we're dealing with. You know what I mean? Correct. At some point, though. somebody's got to take one for the team. Somebody's got to step up. At some point, there's, there's, you've got to, at some point, maybe we'll get lucky that we need one of these things to come.

You know, that's all I think about it. Well, I would caution you again doing that. I understand what you're saying. I used to have a saying when I was a bouncer. I never got this pretty underestimating anyone. And, you know, that's kind of the same thing with Sasquatch, man. You never underestimate what you're dealing with. And like, you know, you're firing off shotgun blast,

which is probably arguably one of the loudest, well, I don't want to say one of the loudest, it's a loud, it's a loud gun. It's up there. It's up there with all the other loud bearings, yeah. Right. And, you know, any other normal animal would bolt, but, you know, this ain't in bull. I would just caution you to be careful. You know what I mean, man.

Just be really careful when you're out there. And I appreciate you coming on, brother. I really enjoyed talking with you. I appreciate it. I appreciate the time. I appreciate getting some of this stuff out there. off my chest. You know, I live with these stories every day. And way these stories help somebody somewhere. Just come to light and tell some of your stories as well. And the more that we can,

you know, have a platform to speak freely, more things will come to light. I appreciate it, Wes. Thank you for having me. Thanks for coming on. And that's it for tonight. Everyone remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at saskawattronicles.com. If you get a chance, check out saskblotronicles.com. Until next time, everyone. Faster than the coronavirus and we're not a Martin, and I'm a veteran sports analyst and respected sports handicapper who will help build ESPN's brand.

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