Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:576 Confessions Of A Pastor

Episode Date: August 26, 2019

Spoke to Randy and he said "I have never seen a Sasquatch but I have dealt a lot with demonic possession. I have many accounts that made the hair on my arm stand up. Many people come to me with accounts of running into these creatures." Randy writes "I have two encounters to share, both happened in Kentucky, one was right outside of Louisville city limits. 1968,69-70 The Green River was dammed up to create an 8,210 acre lake, "Green River Lake." During this time my friend's family owned land on green River. Naturally, As the lake filled up, many caves in the area were flooded. We think that's what drove the Sasquatch in this story out into the open and searching for new territory. My friend and his cousin came down to the riverbank to do some target practice with their 22 rifles. They would walk up stream a ways, throw pop cans in the water, then run back down stream and wait for the pop cans (targets of choice) to float by. While blowing the cans to smitherines, my friend's cousin's gun jammed. They walked around a tree line, across a field and back up to their car which was sitting on the side of the road. They opened the trunk, sat on the back bumper, and began to dislodge the shell from his 22 rifle. As they were reloading they heard limbs snapping, they looked up and back toward the tree line they had just walked from. The tops of the trees were swaying wildly. My friend's cousin asked, "who let the elephant out?" They decided to check it out. They closed the trunk and jogged back down across the field then walked quietly around the line of trees and back into the opening on the river bank where they had been standing moments before. "Sam" not his name..said when they came into the opening something started screaming at them. They jumped and looked toward the scream….Standing on top of a deadfall was a creature covered in hair, his arms were above his head and he was waiving them back and forth in a left, right motion. Sam's cousin spun the barrel of his rifle around and shot 5 times. Sam said all five shot's hit the creature in his chest area. He said he could hear the bullets landing almost like the sound of them hitting the water. The creature dropped his arms and fell straight back behind the deadfall. He hit with a large thud, then silence. The silence was very short lived. Sam's cousin, started screaming, "I've killed our crazy uncle" "I've killed our crazy uncle" "I've killed our crazy uncle" "He dressed up in a monkey suit to scare us and I've killed him." Sam told him, I don't know what you've killed but it's not our uncle. They were both in shock so holding onto each other they walked slowly over to the dead fall and looked over it to the back side. The creature was laying on its back and not moving. One of them (not sure which one) said, what the heck is it? This stirred the creature, he opened his eyes and jumped up. They jumped back, turned and started running. The creature "galloped" away in one direction, the two cousins in the opposite. I say galloped because of the way he was swinging his arms. (This is my opinion, not theirs) I think the creature was in shock, I think he was running but using his arms as if he was on all four. He was running on two but his arms were swinging as if he was using them to touch the ground. The story extends, They raced home and got their dad's 30-30…..Tracked it….. with more info coming from a neighbor the next day."   This episode brought to you by M-Y-B-O-O-K-I-E. Go to http://bit.ly/MYBSasquatch and don't forget to use the promo code SASQUATCH when creating your account to claim the bonus. Bet. Win. Get Paid

Black thing go from left to right, and I thought, I'm going to die out here and no one's ever going to know. I couldn't believe what my eyeballs was showing me. I'll never forget how evil the eyes were. It was horrible. I mean, I've never seen nothing that evil. It ran towards me at a rate that I can't even explain, turned and stared at me. And this look of, I just want to kill you. I want to say it was human, but it wasn't.

He was yelling at me to grab a gun, grab a gun. I was like, for what? He said, just grab a gun. And there's footprints all the way to the door of my house. It had went inside my garage all the way to the door. 911, what are you reporting? Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about six foot, nine, I don't know.

Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right at him. Uh-oh. You're listening to Sasquod. Chronicles. Check us out online at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. If you've had an encounter, email me. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show planned for you tonight. We'll be talking to Randy. And Randy comes to us from Kentucky. He actually is a pastor down there, and he has a lot of people come to him with confessions of running

into Sasquatch. So he'll be sharing a lot of those tonight. Randy also exercises demons out of people. And so he's going to be sharing some of those accounts tonight too with us. A lot of his accounts definitely will make the hair on the back of your neck stand up. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatchronicles.com. And if you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. I want to thank Chris from Nova Scotia for coming on the show on Sunday and sharing his accounts with the members, growing up in Nova Scotia on a farm and seeing these creatures. And I also want to thank Nate, who came on and talked about an encounter he had in Connecticut while

out fishing with his uncle. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to Welcome Randy to the show. Randy, thanks for coming on. Well, Wes, thanks for having me. I think you have a brilliant show, man. I appreciate it. I appreciate you saying that. And I'm happy to have you on. And I know we're going to cover different topics tonight. A lot of different fascinating topics. A lot of questions I have for you. And I know you're a preacher, pastor. Pastor is good enough. Yeah. Yeah, I know you're a pastor. And a lot of people come to you. And I know you sent me a lot of stories.

and people come and confide in you and different things that have happened in their life. And there's been a few Sasquatch encounters that people have come to you about. How did you feel about that? Have you always kind of believed in Sasquatch? Or, I mean, people come to you and tell you this stuff. Did you believe them? Well, I think you have to give everybody the benefit of a doubt. I really do.

And, you know, we talked a little bit previously, Wes, about being open-minded. And I know that you can be so open-minded that your brain is. can fall out. But at the same time, you know, we don't want to, we don't want to be too close-minded. We want to give everybody the benefit of a doubt. And, you know, when somebody tells you, I've been an eyewitness to something, you have to give them the benefit of a doubt. And so, you know, when I have people come to me that have worked alongside me for four, five, six years and say, hey, I think I know you well enough now. I'm going to tell you a story. And they start in, especially the people that came to me, I believed them. I believed them, even though I've

never seen, I believed. Yeah, what was an interesting account someone came to you about? Is there a couple of years of share? Yeah, I've got, there's a couple of stories that I'll share, and one is a little cleaning lady that worked for me. Actually, she had worked for the church for 26 years and and she was there when I got there and we just kept her on the staff and she cleaned. I think I'd been there about four or five years when she told me the story and she said, I want to tell you a story. I ask you what you think about it. I don't know where to put it.

And I said, okay, what was it? She said, well, I was a teenager. And she said, my boyfriend and I drove to Tom Wallace Park, which is right here on the outskirts of Louisville, Kentucky. And she said, we drove to this park and we drove a. up a dirt road that had a cul-de-sac at the top, and that was all dirt as well. And there was a street lamp there, but they were kind of out in the middle of nowhere. And they parked the car and began to do what teenagers do.

They begin to make out. And it wasn't long before they started hearing noise in the woods around them, because it was all very heavily wooded around this cul-de-sac. And they heard very heavy footsteps. She said, this thing had to be, you know, four or five-hundred pounds. whatever, but they could hear it walking and twigs snapping, uh, rustling in the trees. But it, it never got close enough to where they could actually see it. They, they could tell where the sound was coming from and they would try to look, but they couldn't see it.

It stayed just out of sight. It, it creeped them out enough that they, she turned to him and said, I think we better leave. And he reached in the glove box and pulled out a small pistol. And she's pretty aggressive. girl, she said, she laughed and said, I don't know what you're going to do with that, but I don't think whatever it is that's circling us right now, I don't think that's going to do anything. Let's leave. So he started the car and began to inch it back and forth, turn it around in the cul-de-sac.

He finally got it headed in the right direction down the dirt road coming off the top of the hill. And as they drove off, she turned around, and I think I mentioned it was a convertible, she turned around and looked over the trunk lid and this thing stepped out into the cul-de-sac onto the light. She said it was somewhere in the neighborhood of eight feet tall, maybe nine, massive broad shoulders, very long arms. She said that the hair, now it was in silhouette. And the reason it was in silhouette is there was a street light that was behind it. So she really couldn't make out facial features or whatever. but she said it was extremely, the silhouette was extremely muscular and it had long hair on its arms hanging down.

And at that point, she started screaming at the young man that she was with that night and started pounding him in the shoulder with her fist and screaming, drive, drive. It's right behind us, just drive. And so he hit the gas pedal and they went as fast as they could down the road and got out of side and they never saw it again. I don't know if you want me telling the rest of the story about what happened the next day or within a couple of days after. Yeah, please do.

Well, the park that's at the bottom of the hill, Tom Wallace Park, she came to me and said, you know, something very strange happened the next day or the day following. They found a woman dead hanging in the tree. And there was a big tree there and she was up and somehow her arms and left. legs were placed so in the tree that the body wouldn't fall out and that her abdomen had been torn open and that intestines were gone, partially eaten, gone. And so the police department moved in, closed that area. And then from that time on, this would have been in the early 60s, from that time on, they

closed the park. They had a curfew. You could not go in that park after dark. And I found that very interesting because on a, on, a Sasquot show that I was watching. A man owned a lot of goats and he saw Sasquatch in his backyard and when he turned on the lights, it ran off down a trail. Well, the next morning he got up and started looking for his goats and couldn't find

him, went down the trail. He found all of his goats, but they were all up in the trees dead with their abdomens torn open and partially eaten or gone. And I just found that very interesting. And this lady that worked for me, she was elderly. she didn't watch anything like that, had no way of knowing. And I just found that very, very interesting. So that's one show.

That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's still my song leader. And, and, and I'm real excited that you're going to have Alan on your broadcast in the very near future to tell the story. So I'm just going to give little bits and pieces. I don't want to, I don't want to steal his thunder because he is excited about coming forward. He told me the story over 20 years ago. And I told him I would not tell anybody. And you already know this part, Wes, called him yesterday and told him, hey, I'm thinking about going on this Sasquatch Chronicles and telling your story. I won't tell him who you are.

And, you know, shockingly, he said, you know, Randy, I think I'm ready to come forward. I think I'm ready to tell my story. So, you know, your audience is in for a real thrill ride. It's one of the best I've heard. He and his friend, a very dear friend, they grew up lifelong friends together. They were in their late teens, and they were on the Green River. You can Google it, Green River Lake. They were filling the lake at that time and making a large lake there in the area.

They dammed up the creek or the river and the lake was filling up. So a lot of the cave systems in that area, and there's a lot of cave systems in Kentucky, and they started filling up. They just happened to be out one day, Target practicing. They took several pop cans, went to the Green River. They would go upriver,

throw the cans in, then run back down to a clearing, and stand and wait on the cans, and then they would shoot at the cans as they went by. Well, Alan's gun jammed, so they walked back up to their car, which was a corvair. This was like 1969,

1970, and they were clearing the shell out of the gun and getting it, unjammed and all of the sudden the trees, right, the clearing where they'd come from, they had to walk around the large stand of trees to get back to the car and across the field. They looked up because they heard a noise and the trees were swaying and these trees that were three, four inches around were snapping off at the top. And so Alan's friend said, man, who let the elephant out?

And they said, well, let's go check it out. These are country boys. These guys grew up in the country. they couldn't think of any creature that could do that. So they jogged back down across the field and then very quietly came around those trees into an opening. And as they came around, this Sasquatch, he called it a creature at the time. As a matter of fact, they called it a monster for years because they didn't know what it was, turned around to look at them.

And these guys were excellent marksmen and Alan's friend turned and pointed at the gun. and just pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, five times right in the chest. Every one of them hitting their target. Alan told me back then 20 years ago, he said it almost sounded like the bullets were hitting water, said, and this thing became very stunned. And it was standing on a deadfall, and it fell off the back. And so they just lost it. They wanted to complete shock. the one friend started yelling,

we've killed our crazy uncle, we've killed him, we've killed him. He got in a monkey suit and tried to scare us. And so Alan told him, he said, I don't know what we killed, but it's not my uncle. They actually kind of held on to one another. Grown guys near 20 years old and made their way with their 22 rifles over to the deadfall. And when they got very close, this thing jumped up.

and took off running. And they put it in B for Boogie and took off the other way and started running for their lives. And you'll just have to hear Alan tell it. I mean, he said, you know, I felt like my legs were outrunning my body. I felt like my body was actually leaning back. I was moving so fast and so hard. And so that story is very exciting, the fact that they were within 30 or 40 feet of this eyeball to eyeball. He's going to be able to give a good description.

The thing actually went down and was in shock for a moment or two. Maybe passed out. I don't know. But when it came up on its feet, they all went different directions. And it goes further than that. They tracked it. They're just other things. I don't want to give it all away.

Yeah, I understand. Yeah. And so what's really exciting about this is it's been 50 years ago this year that they saw it. The legend of the Green River monster was born on that day. A lot of people in town made fun of them. but a lot of the high school kids believed them. And so it's been a popular parking spot for 50 years where guys take their girlfriends down there and look for the Green River Monster. They don't know that they're looking for a Sasquatch.

They've never heard. So it's going to be a great reveal, I think, and you're going to love having Allen on your show. Yeah, I can't wait to have them on. Thank you for steering him towards me. And I found it interesting because when he shared this with you, he didn't say Bigfoot. He didn't say Sasquatch. He was saying Monster to you. you know, we saw a monster.

Yes. Actually, I'm the one that told him when he told me that the tops of the trees were swaying, and these were 15, 20 foot trees, and they were breaking off up high. I said, well, that's a big foot. And he said, well, how do you know that? And I said, well, I'm going to find a video that I watched many years ago. And it's about some hunters that went up into Canada. And they were looking for the legend of the Sasquatch. And they hired some Indian guides to take them up into this forbidden area.

and the Indian guides told them, these Native American Indians told them, said, we will take you as far as where the tops of the trees are broken off. We will not go past that because that's where they mark their territory. They don't want you coming beyond the trees that are broken off. And so I told Alan, I said, you know, I think this thing was probably ran out of its cave system. It had to find a new area to live in because, you know, 8,210 acres were being floated. flooded and it was marking new territory. And I think that's what was happening. And I mentioned to you just briefly that I have a theory that, you know, you have a lot of people on your show. I've listened

to many, many, many of the podcast that you've done. And some people come on and say, well, I think they're nice. And other people come on and say, well, I think they can be violent. And others say, well, there's a certain type of Sasquatch that's nice. And then you get into the cone heads and maybe they're more violent. But here's what I believe. I believe. I believe. I believe. I believe that the further you get into their territory, the more violent they become. I'm a really nice guy. I've got a very long fuse. But if I wake up at 3 o'clock in the morning and you're in my house, my Keltek shotgun's coming out. And you may not make it out of the house alive if you're standing in my living room. Okay. And I just think that this is a

theory that, you know, I'm not saying everybody has to agree with, but it's just my theory after all of the stories I've heard that when you pass their boundaries, trees been over, trees broken off at the top. When you pass that area and you keep moving, and most people out in the woods don't know whether they're moving further into their territory or further away. I think if a person is on the edge of a territory of a Sasquatch, okay, that Sasquatch may be congenial. he may look you over and walk away. You get a half a mile into their territory and they believe that it's their territory. You may have rocks thrown at you, logs thrown at you, you may get growls, you may get bluff charged. There just may be so many things that could happen.

I think with these homes that people move into and they're there for a time and these things are beating on their house, throwing rocks on their house. And I think that those saskatch, probably for years, if they had saskatch families' generations that were raised there, they may consider that their territory. And that's why they're attacking the houses. Yeah, it could be. I mean, I think there is times where these things just get set off for no reason. But I like your theory.

Going back to your first story about the guts being ripped out, one thing that, and again, I don't know that anyone's actually seen a saskatch. do it, but we assume that they do it. You'll see where deer kills, they take the guts, but they leave everything else. So I thought that was interesting when you were telling that first story about how the woman had her guts ripped out, then the goats. You'll find that with a lot of deer kills. And I've seen pictures of it. I've heard of accounts of it. Or you'll find where hunters will kill a deer, and then they'll gut it, leave the guts, and then the guts are gone. They'll come back the next day and the guts are gone. They'll come back the next day and the

guts are on. And obviously there's other animals that could get to it, but they seem to take weird parts of animals that, you know, we wouldn't eat. Well, you know, it might be, and this is going to sound gross, but it might be a smoothie for them. And you never know. I mean, it's, you know, I've, I've heard on podcasts where they're tearing the legs off and walking away with legs and on and on. And then you hear where the guts are just ripped out. And this is predigested stuff. And if you've got an older Sasquatch that is a lot of. most of his molars and some of his canines, it's just only natural that they would go after something that's already been chewed up. It's their smoothie. It's a good point. I never thought of

that. What do you think that Sasquatch is, Randy? I mean, you've listened to the show. What's your opinion as far as, because I'm going to lead in with another question on that, but I'm just curious on what your opinion on Sasquatch is first. Well, you mentioned earlier that I'm a pastor. I've traveled all of the United States for seven years of my life, full-time, 51 weeks out of the year. And then I was supernaturally called to Louisville, Kentucky. My wife nor are from here. I was born in Texas, raised in Oklahoma.

My wife was born in Minnesota. So we came just out of obedience to this area of the country. And I'm going to go to the book of Genesis. A lot of your followers are very aware of Genesis chapter 6, where the sons of God came down and took unto themselves the daughters of men. and had sex with them and out of them the Nephilim were born or the men of renowned or giants. So now you're into the realm of demons, fallen angels, when it says the sons of God, there the word in the Hebrew is Elohim.

And that never refers to humanity. If Moses was going to write about humanity, he would have used Adama, which is where we get the name Adam. and Adama means humankind. So many times in the five books of law, you've got the word man and it's Adama. You know, man shall not live by bread alone. We could just go on and on. It doesn't necessarily mean a male individual. That's the word Aish in the original.

Adama means humanity. So when Moses was writing about the sons of God taking the daughters of men unto themselves, he was referring to a supernatural being. He was referring to the fallen angels. And this is where it came from. And, you know, we talked a little bit about this. The Bible says Noah was righteous in all of his generations. That's in Genesis 6.

And the prophecy to Adam and Eve were that her seed would bruise the head of the serpent seed. Okay. There would be a war, a seed war. In other words, your officer. is going to bruise the head of their offspring. And so what we find in Genesis chapter 6 is that the estimation is that the demonic realm started contaminating the bloodlines all over so that there could not be a Messiah. And so it gives a lot of legitimate reason as to why God would flood the earth because it says

he was righteous or right or pure in all of his generations, meaning that there was a left on the planet whose bloodline had not been contaminated by supernatural beings or by incubus succubus. And so there wasn't any demonic DNA in his bloodline. So he saved that bloodline, okay? But I will go into this. I think that in that realm, and I know that not everybody that tunes into your podcast believe in that realm. I've actually seen demons.

I've seen angels. I'm not going to back away from that. You've got people on that claim they've seen Sasquatch. I've seen demons and angels. I've seen physical manifestations. Made me a believer real quick. These spirits, these demons, these incubus, succubus, they're demons of lust.

Okay. They thrive on passion and thrive on pleasure. and who's to say, and I believe personally that these spirits not only had sex with women, they had sex with animals. So, you know, when they had sex with women, giants were the outcome. You know, we've talked, not you and I, but I've heard podcasts about goat men and dogmen and and weirwolves and on and on. And they're always a large,

extremely muscular, you know, not too far from where I live. Less than 10 miles from where I live, there's legend of the goat man down by a railroad trestle, not too far from where I live. I don't know how valid that is. Don't know anybody that's seen it in the last 10 or 20 years, but a lot of people claimed to have seen this goat man with horns and on and on. And so these spirits had sex with women and ended up with giants. and the Bible calls them men of renown and go all the way up to 30-something feet tall.

I don't think it's unusual that the spirits of lust would not copulate with other type animals and end up with the same results. So you think it's more of an abomination? Man, abomination, that's a pretty strong word. I do believe that it's not obviously not natural. Does that mean that they are all completely evil? I believe that they have a demonic DNA to them, whether or not they are evil in nature, all of them. That's hard to say, you know?

I mean, there are full-blown witches that run covens, And they become mothers and then grandmothers. And I've had to deal with their children or their grandchildren that are suffering from demonic activity in their homes and everything. And it's a generational curse. It's a generational stronghold in their family that has to be broken. And these are good people that just have a lot going on in their DNA. It's interesting because some guys in the military who claim they were part of kill teams, I asked them one time, what are these things? And he said, they're abominations. And I was like,

oh, that's interesting, because that's a biblical term. I wonder why you use that term. But you know, when you start reading, and you and I were talking about this the other night, the book of Enoch, the book of Jasser, they all go into, there was a lot of weird things running around. If you buy into it, there was a lot of, not only was there the Nephilim, but there was these other weird creatures out running around what we call cryptids today. And this, Samarians, like I always talk about Greek mythology, you know, all the weird half man, half horse, half man, half bull, all the different, you know, the senators, all the different creatures that they name. And everyone thinks it's just some guy in Greece came up with this theory of this folklore. He didn't actually come up with it.

He stole it from the Egyptians. The Egyptians stole it from the Samarians. So where does this come from? I mean, everyone's kind of stealing and borrowing from everyone. and they're talking about these half-man, half-this. And I just find it interesting that today we're starting to see more and more weird creatures. Like I had Jessica and Torreon the last show, and they were talking about how they had run into, you know, they call it the rake or the ghoul. And that creature's being seen more and more and more.

I mean, I've had law enforcement see this thing. They seem to be coming out of nowhere, like the dog man. And the dogman goes back, you know, Anubis and werewolves. And behind every legend, there's some truth. And it concerns me a little bit. Now maybe it might be there's the communication is more open now. We talk on the internet. Everyone has access to the internet.

And we talk about what we've seen. Is it that? Is it that there's more communication and people are more willing to come forward and say what they saw? or are people seeing more of these freaks coming out? You know, half man, half dog isn't natural. I don't care what anyone says. Sasquatch doesn't even seem natural. None of these things seem natural,

but they seem to be appearing, and it's somewhat alarming. Same thing with the UFOs and the aliens and all this other stuff. You know, back when I was a kid, you know, growing up, if you said he saw aliens or you believed in aliens or you saw UFO, you were crazy. Now? Not so much. Fox News did a poll about how I think it's like over 50% of Americans believe in UFOs and aliens and actually believe we're being visited. And the American audience is pretty cynical. And so that's a pretty large percentage. And so you're starting to see more and more of these weird cryptids showing up. You're starting to see more of this alien activity. And when you go into, outside of the Bible, you start reading some of these apocrypha texts.

I don't know if that's the right term or not, but like the Book of Enoch, the Book of Jasser, some of these other texts are outside of the Bible. You'll find things that seem to relate to what we're seeing today. We just call it something else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I do exactly. And, you know, I guess the question is, is there an increase in frequency of visitation from these dimensions? Or has our communication across the earth just gotten better? It could be a little of both. You know, when I was a boy growing up, I'm 62 years old when I was a boy growing up.

You know, we had a television that had a knob and rabbit ears, and we had three channels. And they all went off at 1130 or 12 at night. And they didn't come back until 6, 630 in the morning. That was, you know, not uncommon. We had only so many radio channels locally to pick from on the radio station. I was around when FM came in. I was around when the 8 track came in. The printing press as well, you know, I wasn't around when the printing press came in, but I want to bring it up.

Yeah, I was going to ask you. I was like, really? I don't think you're that old. Yeah, that was a little slip of the lip there. I wasn't around for that. But my point of that is that there weren't near as many printing companies when I was a boy as there was when I got in my early 30s. Okay. And books, the flood of books, as printing became easier and more digitized and computerized, it just became so much easier. There's not near as many print shops today as there was years ago because it's all computerized and on and on.

The Internet has made our world a lot smaller. And I think that, you know, the reason that I became open to the fact that there might be a lot of things in the world we can't explain is I actually had a lot of. UFO encounter when I was 14 years old. And it was very unique, in my opinion, what happened to me. But that opened me up. I mean, I was like, okay, I've had some things happen to me that I cannot explain. And I didn't tell anybody about it probably until I was in my early 40s. I didn't even bring it up. Tell us about it, will you? You saw UFO? Tell us about it. No, I don't mind at all. I was, now you know, I'm going to get crucified by the religious culture around me for telling the story. But it doesn't matter, man, I've earned my say. I've been in this a long time and I really don't care what anybody else thinks.

I know what happened. I was 14 years old. So that would have been 1969, 1970. And I lived in a house with five other boys, six. boys altogether. And my brother was out of town and I was sleeping in his room on his bed because we lived in a small house and I had to share a bed with another brother. So I got a chance to sleep on my own. And so I went in his room. In our room, we had no windows. But in my brother's room, there was a window at the head of his bed. And it was four o'clock in the morning. And I don't know any

other way to say this. I may have heard this on your podcast. I heard it within the last. six months. I tried to explain it. I was switched on. I was not asleep. I don't know where I was, don't know where I had been, but all I know is I bolted up in his bed and I was wide awake. And I knew that I had been wide awake, but I didn't know where or what was going on. I let my eyes adjust to the room and I'm listening very carefully for any movement in the house because I'm thinking, well, the reason I've bolted up this alert is because maybe somebody's in the house and going to do its harm. And so I'm listening and nothing. It was summertime.

We didn't have air conditioning in the home. And I thought, I need to look outside. So I turned and the window was open above my bed or at the head of my bed. The window was open. I turned and looked out the window. And there was a solid white sphere. I want to be very careful to say sphere. was not an orb. It was not, it was not plasma in nature. It looked like a glass sphere

full of beautiful white fog or smoke. It was probably six to eight feet in diameter, probably about 200 feet in the air. And the angle of it is what impressed me. It was at the exact angle outside the window where it could see through the window and see me laying on the bed. So I put my elbows on the window seal and started looking at this sphere and wondering what in the world am I looking at? And there was no sound outside whatsoever. There was no wind moving. And for Oklahoma, that is a rare thing. There was zero wind, a crystal clear night, not a cloud in the sky. And it was just midnight black all around this. with this thing illuminated from within was actually very beautiful and I'm watching it.

And it is, it's not swaying, it's not rotating. There is zero sound. And this is back in the day before you had very many UFO encounters or anybody reporting on them. Zero sound. And it's setting in the sky like it's hanging from a string or sitting on a ledge. it motionless and I'm looking at this. I watch it for about eight or nine minutes and I'm thinking, what am I doing?

I've got to tell somebody. Nobody's going to believe me. So my younger brother, Robert, was laying in the bed across the room and I raced over and began to shake him. Well, he was just dead to the world. So I literally had to start kind of punching on him and hitting on him and slapping him in the face. And he kind of came up, defended himself.

and I said, stop, come to the window, just, I'm sorry I woke you up, but you got to come see this. So he comes over, comes to the window sill with me, puts his elbows up there too, and we're looking out at the screen. And he says, what in the world is that? And I said, I don't know. Now, what's strange is when his face came to the screen and started looking to the screen, this thing started moving. It didn't move at all while I was looking at it.

But when there were two heads in the window, this. thing started moving ever so slowly at an angle away from me and going up, like at a 45 degrees away from me very slowly. This sphere got up to the stars or appeared to be about the same size as the stars, and it started twinkling. and I locked on it as much as I could, but I eventually, you know, once I looked away and looked back, I couldn't tell which one it was. And that night I made a promise to myself that I was never going to forget it.

I would never, ever let anybody talk me out of it, convinced me that I didn't see it, and I would carry it for the rest of my life. And I have. This is the first time I've gone this public. I've told a few friends here and there, but I've never gone this public. And so there are things out there we cannot explain. We'll never be able to explain. I know that there are people in the world that if you can't explain it from A to Z,

they're just not going to believe they're going to shut it completely out. Well, that makes for a pretty dull life. Yeah, I agree. You know, I had a member only show, and I had the soldier on from what he was talking about when he was in Iraq. And very similar to almost identical to what you described. And I'd never heard anyone else describe it like that, including with the smoke. That's what caught my attention when you were telling the story. Because they were, and it's a long story, but there were, there was three of them.

There was one huge one and two smaller ones. And he describes the exact same thing. He said it was this real soft light, but it was a ball, a sphere, and it had smoke, and it hovered over this infantry group as they were trying to enter the city. I think they were camped down for the night, and these three things flew over, and he didn't know what they were. What do you think that thing was, Randy, that you saw that night? Well, from my perspective as a young man, I thought I was probably looking at something from another world. But again, we go back to the Nephilim and demonic intervention. And, you know, there's a real popular theory that these ships or these UFO sightings that are showing up are not extraterrestrial.

They're interdimensional. I probably lean more toward that than I do extraterrestrial. I probably lean to the fact that there is a race. of demonic hybrids that have been around for thousands of years now since the flood, that are advanced in technology. And I do believe that our government knows a little bit about them. And I also believe that there may be a coming out where they come out and present themselves as, you know, there's some Jesuit priests that have seen.

said, no slam on the Catholic Church, but they have said that they believe that Jesus is an alien hybrid. And I think that's a horrible, horrible deception that may very well in the very near future be played out upon the earth. And they may come forward and say, this is the father of Jesus right here, and he's an alien. I think there's some danger there. But anyway, that's kind of my take on it. I can't lean towards that, too. And I've never heard anyone else really go into that. I mean, I've had that same theory as you do.

Depending on whether people believe in the Bible or not, you can go back. It's fascinating to read some of it. And if you just get general concepts, even stuff outside of the Bible, like the Book of Enoch, the book of Jax, you start going on some of their writings, you know, ancient writings. One of the things you talked about bloodlines and what were the Nephilim? The Nephlem were hybrids. And I find it odd that when people get taken by these quote-unquote aliens, 90% of the time, it's for, hey, look, we created a hybrid.

They're creating some weird hybrids, and then they're shown they're hybrid. I've heard many accounts like that. And it's troublesome. It's very troublesome. Well, that world is very real. I've had very, I've had a lot of encounters. I don't like the term exorcist, so to speak, but I have done a lot of exorcisms, not because I went looking for it. but because desperate people came to me.

And through the years, through the 37 years now of full-time ministry, I've cast out hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of demons. And they're always up to no good, always. And so I think that there may be some dark things on the horizon. I don't know if you've followed the large binocular telescope on Mount Graham or not that's owned by the Jesuit priest and ran by the Jesuit priests. That's pretty interesting. they looking for, um, aren't they looking for something in the sky? I can't remember what it's called.

They're looking for something in particular. Yeah, are you talking about Wormwood? I think it. Yeah, Wormwood, but they're also looking for, um, I know Wormwoods and Revelations, but they're also looking for, um, anyway, I guess I shouldn't have said it because I, I should have been more prepared before I open my mouth. But yeah, explain that if you would to the audience. Well, if you're talking about the LBT, the large binocular telescope, yeah, um, they, been running it for years and it's an infrared telescope and they've got a pretty large computer and you can look all this up online it's there they've got a pretty large computer between the two binoculars that mean between the two telescopes that makes it a binocular telescope that the computer

synchronizes them and runs it infrared the name of that computer is lucifer yeah and they don't make any bones about it which is really bizarre that jesuit priest would run something like that And they openly say that they see UFOs through the infrared flying all the time and doing 90-degree turns at impossible speeds and on and on and on. They don't make any bones about it. They say, yes, they're out there. We believe in them. And again, there's a connection between them and the Vatican. There's a book out.

Do you mind if I reference the book? No, not at all. Okay. The name of the book is Exo-Vaticana. exo vaticana and I think the guy's name is Tom Hall but anyway he is a preacher that has done a lot of research and actually gone to Mount Graham invited there by the Jesuits and interviewed them and talked with them

and he lays out where he thinks the church is going officially with this storyline and it looks like they're leaning very heavily to accepting beings from quote unquote out space, which again, I believe they're interdimensional, but, and, and that Mary was seated by an alien, which I think is a horrible deception. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. And I want to get into some of the stranger demonic encounters. I wanted to ask you, and you may not have looked this up

or not. Did you ever read about them digging up Nimrod? No, I did not. I'll have to send you some stuff on that. It's pretty fascinating. But we can come back to that. But if you would, and I know, demons have certain names. I had a lady on one time, or not, I didn't have her on. The two brothers I always talk about all the time on the show, they had a quote unquote spirit medium come out, and, you know, she claimed to know demons by first name. And I wanted, they had asked her, what are these sayings? And she said that they're coming up out of the earth, referring to Sasquatch. They're coming up out of the earth. And I thought that was a very strange thing for her to say. But I know you've dealt with a lot of demonic encounters. Can you give us some stories as

far as what you've dealt with? Sure, I don't mind. I'll tell you a story that happened seven, eight years ago now. I'm not great with years, but I'm going to say seven or eight years ago. I had a lady from another country come and visit our church. And it was an adult Bible study night. We did adult Bible studies back then on Wednesday night, and she came forward immediately after my lesson and said, Pastor, would you pray for me? And I said, sure. She said, I'm not feeling well. I've got something going on with my stomach. And so I reached over and put my hand very gently on her forehead and began to pray for her. When I did, her eyes rolled back in her head. All I could see was the whites of her eyes, and she started growling like a man. And of course, it wasn't

not my first rodeo. I knew right then, okay, it's going to be a long evening. So I assembled a very quick team of people that I've worked with in the past. A number of the people that are with me, have been with me 10, 15 years, and I've trained them. And I said, I need you guys to stay a little while. So we told the congregation, you guys might want to go out and, you know, go to the restaurant, wherever you're going to go and leave. We've got some situations here we have to deal with. So she had two girls. One was six and one was three at the time. And I assigned another young married couple to take the two daughters to avoid any trauma on them,

to take them to a different part of the building. They walked out of the sanctuary and closed that door, went across the hallway and into a smaller room that we use for venues that seats about 100 people. And so we had tables in there with toys. and so this couple went in and closed all the doors and gave them a safe place to play. So we started dealing with this woman. And when you're dealing with demons, the way I do it, I'm not saying this has to be done every time, but I asked the entity, what is your name? I think I was shocked the first few times that I did that because of the names.

suicide, hatred, unforgiveness, rage, murder, mayhem. And these are legitimate names that they, they, they, their names are their assignments. It's what they've come to promote. So their names are their assignments. Can I ask you, Randy, Adam McAoff? So the demons aren't screwing with you, but they're giving you what their title is. as opposed to their name. Well, their name is their name is their title.

I mean, that's what they do. So, you know, my name is suicide. My name is, well, like, for example, in the Bible, my name is Legion for We Are Many, okay, which happened on Godera, Ireland of the Gatorines. Okay, my name is Legion for We Are Many. Okay. So we had cast several demons out of this lady.

and what she had done is she was from, I'm just going to go ahead and say it, she was from Cuba and so people approached her and said, would you like to live in America? And they said, she said yes. And I said, well, if you will let us put our spirits in you, then we'll send you for free.

And so she went for the session, whatever it was, woke up three days later without any clothes on, laying in their temple. and was very demon possessed. And they sent her on to America. So anyway, to make a long story short, we're casting demons out. And I get to one that is mocking us. And another thing that they'll do many times is they will speak in an ancient language.

You say, what is your name? And they'll give you something in an ancient language. Or they'll mock you and say, I don't have to tell you. I'm not coming out. I own this person. they belong to me. And so you can't be intimidated. Or they'll say, you don't have the power.

They'll laugh at you. They'll cuss you. You don't have the power. You know, better men than you have tried to take me out on and on. So you just have to stay after it. What is your name? What is your name? And not converse with them.

So anyway, after quite a bit of mocking, I got firm and I said, what is your name? And this demon screamed. Snake! And when it screamed snake, she fell over in the floor and started wiggling like a snake. And I would say it would have had to have been done with supernatural assistance because I've never seen a body move like that. She literally slithered like a snake across the floor without using her hands or feet. Her hands were down by her side.

Her toes were pointed and she's slithering like a snake. well, we don't allow, at least my group that I work with, we don't allow a lot of demonstrations. So we just very gently got down beside her and stopped her from slithering without hurting her and held her down. While we're holding her down, within 30 seconds, the door swings open and the man that's watching her daughters from the other part of the building comes running across, about 40 feet across the front of her. altar area and said, what's going on in here? And I looked up at him and I said, why? Why are you asking? He said, because we're watching her daughters and her six-year-old was working with a game, just fell out of her chair and started slithering across the floor like a snake. So when we stop the mother from slithering like a snake, the daughter simultaneously fell on the floor and began

to manifest and slither like a snake. Now, you know, I'm either crazy. I'm three French fries short of a happy meal. My driveway doesn't go all the way to the garage, or I'm telling you the truth. That world is very real. Yeah, no, I believe you. I mean, I've actually watched some things on TV.

And this was back when it was VHS, and I remember I watched this guy who was possessed. His face started bleeding, and he had all these cuts on his face, and it wasn't his real face. Like he morphed. It was like physically, it was impossible for him to do this. And this is an old VHS recording. It was like a farmer or something.

I'll see if I can't dig it up and send it to you. I'm sure you've seen enough in your life. You probably don't want to see it. But it was fascinating. And then when it was gone, he was back to normal. He didn't have the cuts in his face. He didn't, he wasn't sweating blood. Why do you ask their names?

Is it to control? Is it a power thing? to ask their name or so that you're addressing them? What's the point of asking their name? Well, I'm not brilliant. When I started having demonic encounter after demonic encounter, people needing freedom, I wasn't the most successful in the beginning. They can be very intimidating. They can mock you and make you feel like, yeah, maybe they're right. You know, I've been trying to get this demon to come out for the last 20 minutes. It's not coming out. and it's laughing at me, spitting in my face and telling me I don't have the power.

Maybe they're right, you know. So I started picking up materials on people that were successful or claimed to be successful. And one of the most successful in the last 120 years, the man's name is Derek Prince. And so I read his book and they shall expel demons, I think is the name of the book. And so I read that book. And he used that technique. He said, if you get their name, then you can command them by name to come out and they must obey. If you command them to come out in the name of Jesus and call them by name, they have to come out.

It's really strange. I mean, you know, there are some things that I didn't find in books that, like, for example, I was working with one man and casting demons out of him. and they literally, the demons, started arguing with each other. You know, you go first. No, you go first. And what I found is that the weaker ones, the Bible talks about a strong man, the weaker ones are pushed to the front. It's kind of like a general at an army on a battlefield. The grunts go to the front and fight it out.

And the generals, they stay in the background and give orders. Well, they push all the weaker ones to the front. front and the weaker ones come out front and the deeper you work, the bigger and badder they are, I guess is the way to say it. The more powerful they seem to be and the more resistant they, you know, are to coming out. They will come out. But, you know, I wish I was as powerful as Jesus Christ and just say, shut up and get out. That would be my job really easy, you know.

But I found out that calling that my name works. It just works. Were you able to permanently help that woman from Cuba? I mean, did they leave? Sadly, no. You know, a person, this is something that you also have to be real mindful of. They have to want help. People that are very susceptible to be demon possessed, they have to come out of,

she was practicing some weird things in her home that she was trying to combine with quote unquote Christianity. And some of these things that she was practicing at home had a lot of demonic influence. So you can cast demons out of a person. They can go right back out and invite them back in. Yeah, and that's the thing with demons. You have to invite them in, right? I mean, they don't just randomly go after people.

Well, they'll come in where they feel like they've got a right. If Mama was a witch and Mama used the Ouija board and Mama used it enough to where she became demon possessed and then you're talking about a generational stronghold. And demons by, they will claim right over a witch's offspring. They will claim the right to possess that child. And demons come in through, they can come in through molestation. They can come in probably one of the most amazing stories dealt with a lady many, many years ago. She ended up being a missionary's wife, ironically. She was a teenager and going to a church.

And the church, she was dating a boy and they were having sex outside of marriage. They were 15, 16 years old. And so she was bringing this boy to church with her. And the boy would set in the pew and mock the preacher and make fun of the service, make fun of all the songs under his voice, enough or where she could hear him. And so they were in a revival. where they went many nights in a row just trying to break things off of their lives. And she got under great conviction. And so she went home that evening. And as they got to her house or his house, excuse me, he said, come on, let's go inside and have sex.

And she said, no, I'm not going to do that anymore. I don't want to. I think I need to live my life right. And he reached up and grabbed her and said, it's too late. And when he said that, it was not his voice. He said, it's too late, you're mine. And she locked eyes with him, and she literally watched the demon come out of his eye sockets and float across to hers and go in.

And she felt it go down in her. And she started screaming, and she ran. She ran home, ran in the house. Her little sister was in the living room picking up her Barbie dolls and different things. So she immediately got down on her knees to help her. her sister, she's trying to carry on a conversation with her little sister. And her little sister finally looks up and starts screaming and saying, stop making that ugly face, stop making that ugly face.

Well, that just really freaked her out. So she ran up the stairs and looked at the mirror. And there was a demon's face superimposed over hers. Oh, geez. So she called the youth pastor of the church. Now it's like 10 o'clock at night. And she's hysterical. He comes to her house, picks her up, and he goes back to the church.

they meet with the pastor. She confesses what she's been doing with this boy, told him exactly what happened, and they cast the demons out immediately. They weren't deeply ingrained in her, obviously. They hadn't been there very long. So they came out pretty quickly, and she was set free. But demons will come in through, I had a lady come to my church. She's been about two years ago now.

And the lady brought her forward, and she said, would you pray for my friend? I think she's got a demon. And I looked at him and smiled, and I said, well, what makes you think you've got a demon, ma'am? And she said, well, I growled the whole time you were speaking today. Well, you were preaching. I was growling. I laughed. And said, well, okay, that might be a good indicator.

We set up a prayer time a little bit later where we knew everybody would be gone and they came back to the church that afternoon, about two hours after service was over. And I met with them. And I said, okay, how long do you think you've been de-possessed? She said, almost all my life. And I said, well, demons usually come through trauma to the body, somebody in your family that was a witch or a warlock or somebody that played with tarot cards or Ouija boards or whatever. And I said, also the trauma could be molestation.

When I said that, both eyes, she looked to her right and left. And I immediately picked up on it. And I said, hey, everybody, there was about six or seven people standing around us. And I said, why don't you all go back to the back. part of the church for a moment, just let this lady and I talk. I said, okay, tell me about it. She said, well, my grandfather started molested me when I was four, and he molested me all the way until I was 17. When I was 16, he got me pregnant. I went to my mother, who was his daughter, and said, mom, grandpa's been having sex with me, and I'm pregnant. She called her a lying whore

and took her to an abortion clinic and had an abortion. She found out later that her mother was molested by her dad, which would have been this girl's grandfather, was molested by him probably up until he took over and started molesting the granddaughter. I said, well, did you ever even think, you know, I said, well, it's a good thing he didn't kill you. And she said, oh, he did kill someone. I said, how do you know? She said, well, he took me to the barn one day to have sex with me, laid me down on the dirt floor in the barn next to a little girl. that was dead. And I said, well, how do you know she was dead? She said, well, there were bugs crawling out of her eyes and her mouth and her nose.

Oh, geez. That's terrible. And I said, did you ever think about calling the police? And she said, my grandfather was the sheriff. So, you know, the demon possession with this little girl came from a great amount of suppression and a tremendous amount of repeated trauma. And more than likely, the man was demon possessed that was doing the molesting and the demons transferred as he was molesting her. We've seen that many, many, many times. That's terrible. That's probably one of the worst stories I've ever heard. Did you ever ask one of these people, what does it feel like to be possessed?

I'm sure it's probably not a conversation most people want to have. But has anyone ever told you what it feels like? to be possessed? They feel helpless. They feel they can tell when the spirits take control and come forward. I can tell you, I wish everybody in your audience had a front row seat when an entity from those other dimensions comes forward and starts trying to take over the eyes and the mouth and start working the body.

They have a very difficult time. When they come forward, when I command them, come forward now and tell me who you are. they'll start taking over the eyes. I've seen the eyes spin in opposite directions, and one be looking up and one be looking down while the spirit's trying to adjust. This strangest thing you've ever seen in your life. Okay, very, very bizarre. And even people that have doubted me in the past,

if they were there when I'm working, they leave going, oh my God, it's real, isn't it? There really is, you know, there's no doubt here. Say, no, there's no doubt whatsoever. But back to your question. It's really bizarre. You get a lot of different answers. Had a man come again to one of our services. And I looked up and there was about five of my great big guys, holding onto a guy in the front of our building, right? Not very far from the front of the stage. So I quickly walked over there and said, guys, what are you doing? They said, this guy's team of possessed. And I looked over at him. His eyes were rolled back in and he was growling. And so I stepped in and put my hand on him and started to pray for him. And he turned and started walking. Now, he's driving. dragging five grown men with him. This guy's probably a buck 45.

Okay. These guys are all linebackers. These guys are all, you know, they're my posse, man. They're big grown, you know, they're, they're all 225, 250, 250, 275, 300. He's dragging all of them up the aisle. He's headed out the door. And these guys are pulling on him and their feet are sliding. It's just the strangest thing.

And so I step around them and I stopped them. And I actually had to put my hands on a couple of them and yell and say, stop, leave the man alone. And so they all looked at me like, pastor, you know, what are you doing? And I said, just leave him alone. And I said, now, you, sir, you don't move another step in Jesus name until I give you permission. And he stopped. And I said, do you know where you're at? He said, yes, sir.

I said, you know you're in a church that has the power, right? He said, that's right. I said, you know this particular church operates an authority, and we have the power to cast all these spirits out. He said, that's right. I said, I have a question for you. I said, do you want all the demons to leave? He said, I want most of them to leave, but I kind of like some of them. Oh, geez.

And I said, well, I'll tell you what you're going to do. You're going to leave here, and you're not coming back until you're ready to be completely free because we don't play that game here. I said, I'm not going to get rid of them. and leave you partially bound. Do you understand me? He said, yes, sir, I understand. I said, you know I love you. He said, yes.

I said, I'm not trying to hurt you, but I don't play games here. I'm either going to get rid of all of them, or we're not doing this. He said, okay, thank you very much. He turned around, walked off into the dark. Did he ever come back? Never saw him again.

I wonder why he liked some of the demons. That's a weird comment to make. I don't know. I don't know the answer to that. I mean, I've never been demon possessed, so I don't, you know, I'm sure that they were probably in the line of lust and pleasure and and fornication, you know, could have been rape, murder. It could be anything that gives them a sensation of power. I mean, these people have power, bro.

I mean, I know preachers that have had people float a good 12 to 16 inches off the floor. while they're trying to cast the spirits out. Literally levitate, come off the floor, their feet, the bottom of their feet are 12 to 16 inches off the floor. I've had them pick up entire pews and spin them around. I mean, a man on his knees just reached over and grabbed a pew and just hoisted it up. I'm talking about a 16-foot pew that weighs 350. He's on his knee leaning over, just picks it up and spins it completely around and sets it down. Was there anyone you couldn't help?

Was there anyone that you couldn't cast it out? It didn't work. Yes, and I'll tell you why. It's not because we don't have the power and we don't have the authority. We're given that by God. I wasn't able to help because they didn't want help. They weren't ready to give up. I dealt with a young man that was six foot two. And I had three or four encounters with him where we spent, anywhere from two to five hours each time casting demons out. But he would go right back to the heroin, right back to, and many people are demon-possessed by getting involved with hallucinogens. Man. A lot of demon-possessed people that I've dealt with are former drug addicts. And there's something about the mixture of mind-altering drugs

and certain genres of rock and roll that are just a really deadly mixture. Have you ever heard of DMT? Yes. It's called the Spirit Drug. No, I'm sorry. No, I thought you said DMC, the band. No, no, no, it's DMT and people smoke. It's called the Spirit Drug.

And I have been watching a lot of videos on this DMT that people smoke. and DMT is naturally in your brain. And people theorize that when they have near-death experiences or when they end up, you know, someone dies and says, I went to heaven and I saw God. They think it's a release of this DMT in your brain that causes that you to fill that way. But you can smoke it. You buy this DMT. You can smoke it. It used to be illegal up until a couple years ago.

But it's called the spirit drug. And the one thing that's interesting when you smoke DMT, if you ever go, go to YouTube and type in DMT experiences and just listen to people talk. And one thing that you'll find is they seem to, I don't know if it's in their mind or if it's in reality, they seem to end up in the spirit realm. And they seem to either speak with God or they have some sort of spirit guide that they talk to and they're shown something about their life. it's really bizarre. And that's what made me think of it when you were talking about drugs and hallucinogens, because this DMT is, I think it's called the spirit drug, where you end up going to the spirit realm.

You end up becoming, a lot of people describe shooting up into space after they smoke it. And they become like a ball of light or a ball of energy. And they run into, I guess, spirits. But anyway, I guess that's off topic. It made me think of that when you were talking about hallucinogens. Well, out-of-body experiences are very real. I actually know men of great prayer that after knowing them for five or ten years and they find that you can trust me, have told me that they get into intense prayer meetings. They're alone, and it's in for the fourth or fifth or sixth hour of prayer.

I wouldn't know because I can't pray that long. But they just give themselves to it. they leave their body and they've traveled to other parts of the earth. They've traveled into the deeper parts and regions of the ocean. They have left their body and met angels and demons. One particular man that's a great friend of mine, phenomenal man of God that just has unbelievable experiences. And, I mean, he's told me things there's no way he could know about me. unbelievable, okay, mind-blowing.

He has left his body and come back and it took his body. He was numb all over, his arms and legs felt like lead, and he had to lay there and just wait for his body to wake back up after he came back. And I know that sounds a little crazy. It's probably a little out there for a lot of people. But, you know, Paul said, I met a man so many years ago, whether in the body or out of the body, I do not know. talked about going into the heavenlies.

I've met a number of people that have had near-death experiences and left their bodies. And I meet them very often because they're seeking out somebody that understands. You know, hey, I had this experience. Can you help me understand it? Yeah, kind of do you correlate that with astro projection? Have you ever looked into astro projection? Yeah, I have. I'm very familiar with the term.

I think it's close to one and the same. I think the danger of astral projection is if you're going to do that and leave your body, you need, first of all, if you're doing it kind of, I don't want to sound too religious here, but in an unauthorized way where you really don't have, you're just experimenting and you're playing around with it and you're trying to leave your body, and it's not something that God does for you, or you know, you're just kind of out there experimenting, and you may not have your angels with you at the time

when you do something like that. I think there's an element of danger there. And what I do with you. I understand what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah, no, I understand exactly what you're saying. It's fascinating. I think we can do more as humans than we realize.

I think I was laugh at the case. caveman version. You know, people say we came from caveman. I think we're the dumb down version of what we used to be. And I think the human body can do a lot of things. The human mind can do a lot of things. Well, you don't have to agree with this, but the world is upside down right now. Adam and Eve, you know, a man is body, soul, and spirit. And a lot of your Hebrew sages believed that Adam and Eve were spirit first. And when they fell, they became body first. or flesh first. The Bible says that Adam and Eve ate from the forbidden fruit,

and they realized they were naked. Now, I don't think Adam was stupid. He helped in the act of creation. He helped name the animals. I think he probably was one of the most brilliant beings that ever lived. He didn't have any insecurities. I mean, his dad never told him he was stupid or a loser. So I think he was a brilliant being.

Many Hebrew sages believe that they were living. being spirit first and they were engulfed in light. We're now called Christians are called children of light. And he was engulfed in an immense amount of light because his spirit was the first thing you encountered when you came toward him. And when he ate of the forbidden fruit, it reversed. The light went out and he could see that he was naked. Yeah, a lot of ancient texts talk about that. I'm surprised you brought that up because I've wondered about that. A lot of ancient text talk about him being a being of light. And you're right. I mean, I guess I didn't cut you off, but I just find that fascinating because I've read that in ancient text. And I thought,

oh, that's weird. I wonder why it's referred that way. But I'm sorry, Randy, I mean, cut you off. No, you know, it's, I believe that that's what happened. I believe that when the light went inward, or he was no longer, it flipped upside down, the world turned upside down on that day. And he was no longer a spirit first, but flesh first. I think that, you know, it was obviously devastating for all of creation. And I think that when Jesus came and died, that he was trying to write that. And I believe that there are people that spend a lot of time in the presence of God that have those experiences, spirit first experiences. Yeah, it's fascinating.

It's really fascinating. What is the most terrifying demonic encounter you've ever had that just terrified you? Are you ready for this? I don't know if you're ready. Okay. I was in my late 20s and, well, probably the first one, the very first encounter was probably the most terrifying because I didn't expect it. And I, you know, I believed in God. I just didn't know that this other realm existed.

So, but I won't go to that one. I'm going to go to one that happened to me in my late 20s, 28, 29. I was a very young pastor. And I had preached that night and brought my wife home. Our oldest son was one at the time. My wife took him back to his bedroom and was getting him ready for bed. And I walked back through the apartment that we lived in. And I walked to the front door and I turned the deadbolt on the door.

And when I did, I heard a voice. and it said, I'm not going to let you sleep tonight. The voice was so clear. And that was in my head, but it was so clear that I laughed out loud and went, yeah, right. And I knew it was from the enemy. And I turned very quickly because I scared myself when I said, yeah, right, out loud. It startled me.

And I walked very quickly back to the bedroom and walked into where my wife was. And I was unbuttoning my white shirt. I was down to almost the last button pulling it off as a white dress shirt. and I said, honey, you're not going to believe what a demon just said to me in the living room. She said what? It told me it wasn't going to let me sleep tonight. And when I said that, our doorbell rang right then, Wes. So I walked back through the house and turn on some lights and the apartment and turn on some lights.

And I turned the dead bolt and open the door. And there's a demon-possessed woman standing there and her husband's behind her. and he's like, Pastor, could you let us in? We need to talk to you. And I said, okay, come on in. And he opens his shirt, and he's got claw marks and blood on his chest. And he said, the demons and my wife went crazy and attacked me about 30, 40 minutes ago.

And we didn't know where else to come, but to you. We don't know if anybody else that deals with this stuff. Now, I'm mad. I just have to be honest. I'm mad. I'm ticked off. I'm thinking, man, whoever this was that spoke to me, they're going for broke. And I'm, this is going to sound really bad, but you have to understand that people that try to do the work of the kingdom, they're only human.

So I'm like, man, I'm not letting this happen. This dude threw down on me, whoever he is. And honestly, Wes, at that moment, I was so mad in warfare, term. I was so mad at the demon that I was being a little selfish. I really didn't care about the woman at the moment. And, you know, they both said, you know, she said, I'm just as afraid as he is because of what I did to him. And he said, man, I can't be alone with her tonight. So I called him into another room and I said, here's what we're going to do.

We're going to take her back out to your house. And when she gets out of the car, I want you to shut the door and we're going to drive off. we'll leave her out there tonight and we'll deal with this tomorrow. I'm embarrassed to admit that. And you're probably going to get a lot of criticism. You know, who was this selfish idiot that you had on? Okay. But I was tired and just being human, you know.

And so they had like an old white pinto and his brother was with him. His brother was driving the pinto. So we got our game planned together and we drove out. Now, I had seen, physically seen, many demons in this old two-story farmhouse that they lived in out in the middle of nowhere, pro. And it was up an old gravel driveway that circled right in front of the house. And they didn't have a lot of money. And so they had old towels hanging in the window in sheets for curtains. It looked hideous.

Okay? It really, really looked bad. And I had seen many demons. When I first went over there and met with them and talked with them, I would see black flashes along the floor running around the couch. And I kept asking them, you know, how many cats do you have? We don't have cats. What do you mean you don't have catch? I was seeing them in my peripheral vision.

And you mainly see demonic activity or angelic activity in your peripheral vision, not straight ahead, but in your peripheral. So I kept seeing that, very busy. Anyway, so we drive out there. I'm in the back seat of this pinto. This guy has got his wife on a. his lap in the front seat of the pinto and his brother who is like six foot two two 80 he's driving this little pinto and i'm sitting in the back seat so we get out to the farmhouse we pull up he stops he opens the door and we pretend like we're all going to get out she steps out and she's just

about to let go of the door and she turns around and starts laughing at us and she says oh no you don't you're not leaving me out here with them. She was referring to the demons in the house. And she jumps back face first into the car and she lands on her husband's lap, her elbows and forearms land on his lap and she's got him by the knees. And she's making all these weird noises. You're not leaving me here with them. You're not leaving me.

And I'm like drive and I'm calling this guy by name. I don't want to call his name. but I'll call him Mark. Drive, Mark, drive. And so she looks up at the driver and makes eye contact with him. This guy, 280, 6 foot 2, 6 foot 3, goes absolutely stark raving crazy and starts bouncing like a ping pong ball all over the front seat, over hitting the windshield, slapping the steering wheel, screaming. They're choking me.

They're choking me. They're choking me. So I reached forward and put my hand on his shoulder and say in Jesus' name and he completely relaxed. He says, they just stopped. And I called her by name. And I said, get out of the car. We'll come back and get you in the morning.

No, you're not leaving me here. And so anyway, she looks back up at this guy. He goes absolutely nuts again. This time, he says, they just went in me. They went down my throat. They're in me. They're in me. He starts screaming, very high-pitched scream.

So I don't know if you know much about pentos, but they're bucket seats and they lean forward. So I had to find the latch. Now, this guy's bouncing all over. The whole car is rocking. I get my forearm up against the seat. I find the latch on the side. I push the seat forward. I shove him up against the steering wheel.

I find the handle on his door, pop it open, and I crawl out with the car bouncing everywhere. Reach in and grab him, drag him out of the car. He's flailing. He's hitting me. He's screaming at the top of his lungs. I lean the seat forward again, throw him in the back seat. I'm not a big guy. I have to curl his legs up, shove him in.

If you know about a penthouse, the seats aren't very big, push it in, close the seat back, jump in. And I looked at her and said, get in. So she crawls in the car. Now her face is like three and a half inches away from my face. She's sitting in her husband's lap. It's a little car. Okay. And it's a standard.

So I put it in first. I start down the driveway. I've driven standards since I was 16. I shift into second. I'm not kidding you. The shifter and all of the linkages come out of the floor. And I'm holding the shifter and all the linkages hanging like octopus tentacles. I'm looking down at the shifter.

I'm stuck in second gear. So I'm driving down the highway in the middle of the night with this guy bouncing all over the back. of the car screaming at the top of his lungs. She's laughing. She's three and a half inches away from my face. And I'm driving down the highway in the middle of night. No streetlights. Middle of nowhere. Trying to get back to civilization. And the fear in that car was insane. I finally get to a large parking lot. This happened in Stillwater, Minnesota. And they just opened up the very first large grocery store in America. It was called Cub Foods.

They had a massive parking lot. It would almost be like a super Walmart today. And so I pulled up in that parking lot, stopped the car, got out, pulled the seat forward, drugged this guy out of the car, and leaned him up against the car. And I put my hand on his head, and I said, you come out of this man in Jesus' name.

And he started vomiting and lunged forward face first. He was just about to hit the asphalt. and I caught his jacket about where his shoulder was. I caught his jacket and just yanked like I was trying to pull, start a lawnmower. And I spun him around and he hit the back of his head instead of hitting his face, he hit the back of his head and rolled over on his side and started vomiting. He vomited for 20 or 30 seconds and rolled around, looked at me and said, they're gone. He looked extremely relieved.

I said, get back in the car. He got in the car. I got in the driver's seat, drove on to my house. The minute we pulled up, we all got out to go back into my apartment. And the guy that I just cast the demons out jumped in the driver's seat and drove off and let me stand in there with this team possess woman and her husband. I'll stop there, bro, because it just gets crazy. No, no, no, you can't stop there. Okay.

Okay, so we go in and I'm trying to convince them. Is there anybody can come get you? I'm still mad. I'm still wanting to go to bed. Now it's 3.34 o'clock in the morning. I'm like, I'm not going to let this spirit win. I'm not going to let them win. Does everybody come get you and can we deal with this tomorrow?

And they're like, we're not leaving you. And we don't know where to go. We're terrified. She said, look, I'm afraid of me. And I'm definitely afraid of the demons that are in me and me and we're not leaving you. And, you know, I try to convince them because you just, find somewhere to go tonight and come back tomorrow and they said no we're just we we don't want to leave you we're afraid and i said well come on in so they came in the house i'm still trying to figure

out how to get them out of my house and i'm talking with them i know this is going to sound really crazy but all of the sudden when i was breathing um it seemed like there was less and less oxygen in the air. Now, I'm not somebody to lose my composure. I used to work in an emergency room. I handled a lot of strength. I've had many people die in my hands doing CPR on them, different things like that. So I don't get, I don't overreact to situations. And so as I'm breathing, there's less and less oxygen in the air. And I'm looking across the room at them. and they look perfectly fine. But I'm like with each breath.

And I was not hyperventilating. That was one of my jobs taking vitals. I had how many breaths a minute? What's their pulse? What's their blood pressure? I had to do all of that. So I'm very well aware that you're supposed to take 16 breaths a minute. So I'm consciously thinking, okay, I'm breathing normal, but there's no oxygen in the air.

And so I sat there, they didn't know what was going on. me, but I could tell that something dark was going on in the room. And I got to the point where I just could not catch a breath. And I literally turned and lunged toward the phone. This was back in the days before cell phones and lunged toward the phone and grabbed it off the wall and dialed a preacher that I knew. That was just a real warfare type preacher. and it's 410, 420 in the morning, something like that.

And somebody answers on the other end and they're like, hello. And I called the guy by name and I said, pray for me. I'm dealing with a de-obsessed woman. I can't breathe, pray. And he said, well, I'm not who you think I am. I'm another preacher that just happens to be covering for this guy's church and I'm staying at his house. And he said, but I'll pray. So he started praying.

almost immediately the oxygen came back into the room and I could breathe. And I told him, I said, it's okay now I can breathe. And he said, well, you're in some real intense warfare. And what I want you to do is, do you have any olive oil in the house? And I said, yes. So the Bible talks about anointing with oil. So he said, get the oil, pray over it, ask God to bless it. Then he said, I want you to anoint every door and every window in your house and command the spirits to get out.

So I spent the next 40 minutes going around and dabbing small bits of oil on the doors and the windows and the window openings, every opening in the house. And then I stood in the living room and commanded every spirit of darkness to leave the house. And when I got finished, the room felt clear. They were still sitting there. She obviously was still de-obsessed, but they go, what do we do next? West, I looked at the window, and the sun was starting to come up. And I said, hang on a minute. I walked back to my bedroom and woke my wife up.

I said, I'm so sorry to do this, but I need for you to go get in the bed with our son. And I'll be in a minute. And so when I knew she was out of our bedroom, I told the couple, I said, go back there and get in my bed. And lay down, let's try to get some sleep. And as I was going to sleep, the son was coming up. I was up all night, man. So the demon was right. You weren't going to sleep that night.

Yeah. Yeah. I didn't sleep a wink, man. I didn't sleep a wink. I was war out. This lady had very strange influence. She would, she by herself doubled the size of my church attendance. By herself.

She would walk into bars on Saturday night and say, all of you are coming to church with me in the morning. You've got to meet this guy. You've got to meet this preacher. You've got to meet him. the next morning she'd walk in with 15, 20 people. Yeah, that's amazing. Can I ask you a quick question? Did you ever once think to yourself, I should have been a truck driver?

Well, I told you this before. I was a nightclub entertainer, and I had a radical experience. That's how I ended up in the ministry. But, you know, yeah, I've thought many, many times that I should be doing something else, you know. But when you face the reality, there's a lot of people out there that are hurting, and if you don't do it, who's going to? You know, I'm working with a doctor right now that has many, many, many patients. And they contacted me and said, you know, I think some of the people I'm dealing with are demon-possessed and I need you to help me understand. and we're actually going through classes, and I'm teaching her about these things so that she, you know, will be a little more aware.

Because I think she's calling some things demonic that are not and, you know, how to be aware. Yeah, no. Well, you know, and I want to, and I don't want to keep you because I know you have things you're doing tonight with the church. But I would love to have you back, Randy. I know you're going to start a podcast and I'd love to have you back to promote it. I really enjoy talking with you. Would you come back for a part two? Because I'd like to know how you got into this whole thing.

You know, what? Because, I mean, it seems like a lot of nonsense you have to deal with. And you've got to have a passion for it. If you don't have the passion for it, I mean, some, I know there's a ton more stories that you have, the boys playing with the Ouija board. And, I mean, so many other stories. I would love to have you back. Would you be willing to come back?

back for part two? Sure, I would. And it's been a real pleasure being on your show. Yeah, I really enjoyed talking with you. I know it's a little different topic, but you answered a lot of questions I've wondered about for a long time, and I would love to have you back. But I, and if you come back for part two, I got to hear the story how you got into this. You know, because you don't just fall into it.

I mean, there has to be something that happened. Sure, I would love to come back. I really would. And I consider it an honor and a privilege to be on your show. man, you're doing a great job. I mean that. Top shelf. Thanks for the kind of words, Randy. It means a lot. Thank you again for coming on.

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