Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:580 Confessions Of A Pastor Part 2

Episode Date: September 7, 2019

Randy returns to the show. Tonight we discuss how Randy became a pastor. He had several life experiences that led up to where he is at in life. Randy started out in life working in a night club, what led to him becoming a pastor will surprise you.

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I mean, I've never seen nothing that evil. It ran towards me at a rate that I can't even have. explained, turned and stared at me, and this look of, I just want to kill you. I want to say it was human, but it wasn't. He was yelling at me, he grabbed a gun, grab a gun. I was like, for what? He said, just grab a gun. And there's footprints all the way to the door of my house.

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You're listening to Sasquatch Chronicles. Check us out online at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. If you've had an encounter, email me. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show, plan for you tonight. We'll be finishing up our conversation with Randy.

And if you missed, this is part two of confessions of a, pastor. If you missed episode one, go back and check out episode 576 when I first had Randy on the show. But I had to hear about how he got involved in this type of lifestyle now, the way he lives now. And his answer might surprise you. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatchronicles.com. And if you get a chance to check out Sasquotronicles.com, you can become a member. and get additional shows. I'm currently in Indiana at Horrorhound, hanging out with Bob Gimlin, a bunch of other people.

So if you're in the Indiana area near Horrhound, come by and check it out. Come by and say hi. We'd love to see you. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome back to the show, Randy. Randy, thanks for coming back on, ma'am. Glad to be back.

Good afternoon. Yeah, good afternoon, Randy. You know, thank you again for being here. A lot of people, I think, you know, most people enjoyed the show, the last one that you and I did. I heard a lot of comments that they've never heard a pastor so open with this life. You know, the other thing, too, I want to thank you for steering Alan Chumi, the guy, the gentleman who he was out with his friends and they shot the Green River Monster. It was fascinating to hear how all of that started down there in Kentucky. Yes, it was.

that, you know, if you live here in Kentucky and you're not too far from Green River, you certainly still hear about it in that area. And again, you know, he told you that it's become kind of a parking area for guys taking their girlfriends and looking for the monsters. Pretty amazing area. He took me there once on a real foggy night, and it was eerie as it could be. we had a lot of fun and left there. A great guy. And, you know, there's no doubt in my mind that it actually happened just the way he said.

Yeah, it was an amazing account. You know, a lot of people were wondering about the angels and demons that you saw. But before we get into that, I wanted to ask you, I know we kind of left off the last show talking about how you actually got into this. You know, you don't really fall into it. If you would, would you talk about how you got into it? How did you become a pastor? How did you get involved with the whole, you know, expelling demons out of people? And I know there's got to be a story behind that. Huh. Well, okay. So my story is that in 1979, I had a conversion. And I'll tell you that story very quickly.

I was a nightclub entertainer, believe it or not. I had been a lead singer in a rock. band. The rock band was not very successful, but I did enjoy singing with them for a while, and the band got to where they were fighting all the time. So I went to broadcasting school because I was a singer-songwriter, had an acoustic guitar, and really wanted to do more acoustic work than hard rock. And the band I was singing for was a hard rock band. And so I went to broadcasting school thinking I'm going to have an edge on a lot of songwriters if I know how the broadcasting works and I can go talk to DJs on their terms and on and on. Well, when I finished broadcasting school, that's about when live shows in nightclubs started becoming very popular. So I did four and a half hour show six nights a week. I did Tuesday through Sunday.

And then I was off on Mondays. And I'd been doing that for a while. And the thing about being the guy that stands on the stage, all my alcohol was free, all the recreational drugs were free. Again, this was 1979. I know I'm dating myself, man, but it was right in the middle of the big disco era. And so I DJed at a dance club and the club was very successful. I knew how to do something that a lot of guys that were. just weekend warriors did not know how to do.

I went and watched Billboard Magazine, and there was a place in Oklahoma City where I could go and do research on Billboard Magazine and see what was playing in New York. And I would start playing it in Oklahoma City, knowing that it was going to be at least six weeks before it traveled from New York across the country and hit Oklahoma City.

So I kind of became a guru of sorts. People were always wondering how I could play hits eight to 12 weeks in advance. And so that's how I did it, was through Billboard magazine. So one night I was doing my show and I'd been sick for about a week and hadn't slept well. And the guy that I knew came up and said, hey, man, I'm here you're not feeling well and you're not sleeping well. And I said, no, I'm not. It's about time for me to close my show.

And he handed me two pills. They were pharmaceuticals from across the counter. He said, these are muscle relaxers. said, if you'll take these and go home and go to bed, you'll sleep real good tonight. So I said, okay. Well, we didn't calculate the amount of alcohol I'd had that night or, you know, all the free liquor. And so I popped him in my mouth and chased it with a Mickaloeuvre or whatever and closed the show at 140. Made the last call for alcohol.

It closed up my show. Got in the car and drove home. I only lived about a mile from the club. really nice home with a motorcycle racer and a guy that on the car lot. So anyway, I walked in by this time it's 2 o'clock in the morning. Everybody in the house is asleep. I go back to my bedroom and close the door and I'm getting ready for bed and my throat closes shut. Can't get any air in or out.

And I'm standing there and just trying to catch my breath. And that's not happening. Nothing's working. I'm going into a full-blown panic, trying my best to breathe. Start losing my ability to be on my feet, so I fell backwards on the bed and still struggling. And in the midst of all the struggling, I knew I was losing the battle and I was going to die, suffocating. And my grandmother appeared at the foot of my bed, which shocked me. I could see her very clearly. Now, here's the strange thing. My grandmother was still alive in a nursing home, but there she was at the foot of my bed. My grandmother was a woman that, in my mind, was a very religious woman.

She prayed somewhere between four and six hours every day. And she had had a lot of experiences in her life. I didn't want anything to do with her. Didn't want anything to do with church. Didn't care for church. Came from a very legalistic background. didn't want anything to do with that. I wanted to be a movie star.

I wanted to be a rock and roll singer. And I was doing my best to live life in the fast lane. So anyway, when my grandmother appeared, in my mind, at 22 years old, I'm thinking, uh-oh, you know, she's been spending, the only reason God's showing me this is because she spent so many years praying for me, and I've not been living it. And this is God saying, okay, you're going to the smoking section.

You're going to hell, you know, pack your summer clothes. So I'm thinking, oh, man, I'm in trouble. You know, here she is in front of me, and I'm taking my last breath. I'm getting ready to leave my body. And so in my mind, I said, God, if you're there and you love me, if you'll help me, I'll live for you. I couldn't say that with my mouth, but I said it in my mind because there was no air left in me. Immediately I heard myself go, I heard myself breathe in, and I passed out. I don't remember another thing after hearing myself inhale. While I woke up the next morning,

the sun was shining. My show didn't start until 9 p.m., so I got up and began to move around the house, went and rolled a joint, and lit it up, smoked it, and sat there in the house and thought, man, that was really weird. And I just, I can't do it, God. That's what I said out lot. I just can't do it. I can't live for you. Sorry, you know, I told you I would, but I'm going to back up because I just can't do the

religion thing, period. So I'm going to fast forward a little bit here. I became very uneasy. Well, I will go ahead and tell you this. I went to the club that night and I started my show and a girl that I was dating came up and said, can I talk to you? And I said, yeah, just a minute. So I started a long play dance record, about a 13-minute record and took up my headphones.

I said, yeah, sweetheart, what can I do for you? And she said, I just want to know, is this all there is to life? And I quickly looked around and met her eye to eyeball to eyeball. And I said, what are you talking about? She started crying. And she said, I just want to know if this is it. I mean, people work hard all week and they come here. You're the party.

They come to see you. They come to get drunk and forget all their problems. And we get to be the party. We get to be here all the time. Is this all there is? Isn't there anything more? And that freaked me out. I just looked at her and said, you know what, just go sit down somewhere, take a break, and we'll talk later.

So I got her away from me, and I thought, boy, that was weird. Well, about 20 or 30 minutes went by. I'm not real sure how much time. And another girl came over and wanted to talk to me. And I said, yeah, what's up? And she pretty much went down the same road. And that freaked me out. And I thought, oh, my goodness, I must have really ticked.

him off last night because he came to the club looking for me. He's speaking through these women. So I quit that club that night. I had a club across town that was bigger, flashier, and they'd offered me a job and been waiting for an answer for some time. So I called the owner and said, hey, do you still want me? And the guy said, yeah. And I said, okay, I'll start. And he said, well, give me about three, four days and we'll open with you on, I think it was the next Friday or whatever. So I went there and went to work. And I went to my mother's house and I told my mom, I said, mom, I just need to tell you I've been living a really rough life. And the reason I moved all the way on the other side of town is because I didn't want you to know how I was living.

And I'm just not going to live much longer. I've been shot at twice there at the club. And really, still to this day, don't know how I made it out of that. But I said, I just don't think I'm going to live much longer. Well, my mother broke down and started crying. And she said, do you remember as a younger boy going to this little church that I took you to and said, yeah. And she said, well, the power of God is real. And if you can go for four Sundays in a row and tell me there's no God, I'll leave you alone.

I'll never talk to you about religion again. And I thought, well, man, that's a pretty cheap deal. You know, I mean, all I got to do is go four Sundays and mom's going to leave me alone. That's awesome. And I said, you know, what have I got to lose? Okay, I'll go. So I went. All I can tell you, and I'm not trying to make this churchy because, man, I'm just not much with religion.

And that's the truth. I've already told you previously that religion is what you have left when God leaves the building. It's man's attempt to control other people in the name of God. So I don't care much for religion. I'm a very spiritual man. Try to be very spiritual. I don't do well with religion. I don't draw inside the lines, okay?

And most people know that about me. I'm not a rebel. I'm not disrespectful to people. I just don't play that game well. Never have. I don't like games, number one. So I went to the church and they asked people if they need an experience in God to come to the front. So I went to the front.

And some old guy walked up and said, raise your hands. And so I did. And here's where it gets weird. I felt an unbelievable weight lift off. of me instantaneously right there at that moment. Now, here I am an alcoholic. I'm doing drugs. I'm smoking two and a half packs of cigarettes a day. That's 50 cigarettes a day. Okay. And I felt this massive weight come off of me. All right? So much so that when it came off my shoulders, when it lifted off, I felt like it lifted off my shoulders and went behind me. So I turned around

to see what was there because it felt like, I'm not kidding, like two or three thousand pounds. As a matter of fact, I looked down to the floor because I felt so light, I thought I might be floating. Of course, my feet were still on the floor, and I'm looking around. I'm looking to see if anybody else saw it, and they didn't. And so I went to the preacher, and I said, man, what just happened to me? And, of course, he didn't know how to explain it. And I said, well, you need to help me tell my friends,

because I got a lot of friends dying of drug overdoses and on and on. And I just, you need to help. me. And so he sent me off to Bible college and we'll stop there. I can just tell you that I spent the next three and a half years with them trying to make me a very religious man. And so anyway, I want to go to the first encounter. Is that okay if I just go to the first encounter that happened to me? Okay. Yeah, of course. So I grew up in a blended family. My dad married a woman. My dad divorced my mother. And there were three boys. and my dad married woman that had three boys.

So there were six boys in the house. And my younger brother, my younger stepbrother, his name was Robert. He went everywhere with me. We were together all the time. We were best friends. He was about a year and a half younger than me. We were always together. We ran around together.

They called Robert My Shadow, two peas in a pod, those kind of statements about us. And so, Robert used to come to my show when I worked in nightclubs and he said, Randy, I want to do what you're doing. And so he went to work at another club. So now here I have this radical experience and I'm off in Bible college and it's like May 1st of 1980. And my stepmother calls me and I said, yeah, what can I do for you? And she said, I need you to call Robert and talk to him. I'm worried about him.

And I said, well, look, man, I'm right in the middle of finals. I'll be home in like 30 days. We've got a big drama. I've got a big part in the drama, year-end drama. And I've got all these finals I've got to study for. Let me just come home at the end of May and I'll take Robert out to lunch and I'll spend some time with him. And she said, well, I wish you'd just call him now. And I said, well, I can't.

I'm sorry. And so I hung up. So now we go forward four days. And it's about 7 o'clock in the morning. and the pay phone in the hallway. And again, I know I'm dating myself, but there were no cell phones back then. The pay phone in the hallway was ringing.

And my roommate, our room was the closest to the pay phone. So my roommate got up and went to the phone. And he comes back and he pushes the door open and very authoritatively looks at me and he's shaking. And he says, get up and go to the phone. He kind of looks pale. So I get up and throw on some jogging pants and roll past him.

and go to the phone and pick up the receiver and said, hello, and it was my older brother, Rick. And he said, Randy, are you sitting down? And I said, no, I'm not. What's going on? And he said, well, you need to sit down before I tell you this. And I said, look, bro, I'll take whatever you got to say to me standing up. Because I like to think I was a tough guy.

And I thought he was going to tell me that my grandmother had passed away. And he said, it's Robert, Randy. And I said, what about Robert? He said, Robert was murdered last night in the parking lot of a nightclub. And so I flew home. There was a spiritual experience that happened that day that blew my mind, but it really doesn't have to do with angels or demons. So I'll just leave that alone, but I'll move forward. I flew home to the funeral, went back, finished out the year at Bible College, and then I went back home.

And the only place to stay with my parents at the time over the summer break was in my little brother's room, the one that had been killed. And so I went in Robert's room and moved my stuff in. They'd already moved his stuff out. And so I probably was home about a week and I went to bed one night and I'm asleep and I have a dream. And in this dream, I'm driving down the street and it's a beautiful sunny day and I look up and my brother Robert is walking on the sidewalk next to the car. So I rolled down the passenger window. I had electric windows in this car. It was in the dream.

It was a car I actually used to own. And so I rolled down the window and I said, hey, Robert. And he looked over at me and smiled real big and he walked over and laid his arms on the door. And he said, hey, Randy, what's going on? I said, man, what are you doing? You can't be here. You're dead. And he turned and looked at him.

looked over his right shoulder and said, no, I'm not dead. I just went across that bridge and I can't come back. And when he said that, a bridge appeared behind him. And I thought that was weird in the dream. It was a beautiful bridge. And so he turned and looked at me. And so the scene changes and now we're in a house. And I knew the house very well. And I'm still just completely overwhelmed because here's my best friend in life that I've just lost. He's standing in front of me. So I just lunged toward him and threw my arms around him in a great big bear hug. And I said, Robert, it's so good to see you, man.

And when I bear hugged him, something very dark happened. It was like I immediately pushed away from him. And it was like a cold, ice cold, wet spider web was stuck on my body everywhere I touched him. We bear hug chest to chest. So my chest had this ice cold, wet spider web of evil all over it. I couldn't get it off. It was on my biceps where I'd hugged him and my forearms where I'd hugged him. And so I back away and I'm looking at him and he's looking at me smiling.

And I said, you're not my brother. And he stopped smiling. he's just staring at me, and I said, you're not my brother. And I rebuke you in Jesus' name. Well, he turned and started running. And I turned and started chasing him. I mean, it didn't turn. I just started chasing him. And I chased him through the house and out the front door. He jumped off the porch. Just as I was going to jump off the porch and try to chase him off the yard, I woke up. And of course, I was in a full-blown panic. I set up in the bed. I'm breathing really hard. My heart's pounding. And the first thought, thought was, man, am I glad that was a dream? Wow. That was the scariest dream I think I've ever had in my life. And I could, you know, in the dream, it was just intensely evil. So as I'm, as I'm thinking that, I lay back down on the bed and I'm just going, man, that was crazy. And then that's when it happened. The same darkness, the same icy cold spider web, crawled up on the bed and covered me. And I'm completely paralyzed. Now, I'm wide awake, and this thing is on me. And now I can't talk.

I can't move. The level of fear was astounding. I didn't know a person could be that afraid. The amount of evil that was in that room was palpable. It was thick. And I was strapped to the bed. Pressure. I can feel it. So I'm laying there and I'm trying to talk and I'm trying to say the name Jesus.

And I can't. and I keep thinking the name, thinking the name, thinking the name, and finally after, I don't know how many minutes, to be honest with you, West, probably six, seven minutes, I'm finally able to whisper the name. And when I whispered the name, this thing sprung off of me and disappeared out of the room. I was absolutely terrified. I'm still laying there, scared to day. death, shaking. And I know this is not going to sound very manly, but I got up on my knees and got to

the foot of the bed. And it was still about five feet to get across the floor to where the light switch was. And like a little kid, I jumped from the bed to the wall and hit the light switch on before my feet hit the floor because I was terrified that if I put my feet on the floor, if this thing had slid off the bed and gone to the floor, that it would get me again. I know that sounds crazy. I was a grown man. I was 20, 22, 23 years old. But that's how terrifying it was. So that's when things really shifted for me. I'd had the supernatural experience of being freed. I didn't tell this earlier. When the weight came off of me at that church service that night, I never drank again.

I never smoked a pot again. That was the end of it. Okay? I was completely set free. Delivered is the word, the quote unquote religious term is delivered. So I knew there was power, but I did not know. You know, I thought that growing in God was all mental assent. I thought growing in God was learning.

a doctrine and being able to recite it, having a pretty good geographical understanding of where Jesus was born and lived and ministered, being able to study the Bible with some form of proper exegesis, which means you know how to divide the word and pull it apart and dissect it and on and on. That's what they taught me in college. Understanding the layout of the Bible, three, you know, Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek, understanding what the languages were. Not that I understand it or can speak it or can read it, but understanding that the original text was in one of those three languages. So, but, but, but, and I thought growing in God was mental assent and learning more and

being able to teach other people. But I had no idea that when you actually started trying to break yourself free and grow, and even expand the boundaries of the kingdom by talking to other people about that kingdom that the spirit realm would manifest itself. And that, you know, when the Bible talks about Jesus casting out demons, those, you know, those were fairy tale stories to me until that night.

Do you think it was a demon that came after you? Absolutely. No doubt. You know, I didn't see him, but I felt him. It makes me wonder. One question I want to ask you, going back to your grandmother at the foot of your bed, did you ever tell your grandmother that, or what's your take on what actually happened there? No, I never did tell my grandmother.

You know, it's really weird. I'll interpret it for you. and I'm not saying I'm exactly the interpretation, but I feel really good about it. I think that in that moment, God was trying to show me that her prayers were going to make a difference. That, that, I mean, she had prayed thousands and thousands and thousands of prayers. I mean, my mom and dad got her divorce when I was four, and she was praying like that when I was a little bitty boy. and she had been praying all of her adult life like that. And she wasn't a quiet woman.

She was very loud. I would go to the nursing home to see her from time to time. And I could hear her 30 feet down the hallway. I could hear her praying in her room. And everybody else could too. They just thought she was a crazy old lady. Okay. And she would pray like that for hours.

I just think that that was God's way of showing me. Well, I don't want to freak you or your audience out. but Paul talked about being in prayer and he said, I knew a man once, whether in the body or out of the body, I do not know. She could have been standing there in spirit realm. I mean, you know, we briefly talked about your audience would probably be more familiar with the term astral projection. Christians, if you know Christianese, they don't use that terminology. I don't like speaking Christianese, by the way.

But, you know, that would be an out-of-body experience and she may have been there. God may have allowed her to see that moment, and she just never told me. You know what I mean? She may have been there just through the power of an accessory prayer and all the years she had prayed for me, or it's God's way of showing me. Here's a woman that's been praying for you for 20 years of your life, and it's her prayers that are going to make the difference tonight you're going to live and not die. Yeah, it's interesting you say that.

We did talk about that on the last show. I know you had mentioned you had friends of yours that pray for hours and hours and hours. And, you know, the audience listening will probably astro projection. They know what you're talking about when you use that term. I realize it's, you're talking about two different things, but, yeah, that's fascinating. That's really fascinating. I never thought about that. Do you think, let me ask you a question. And I want to talk about some more demonic encounters that you had, but, you know, a lot of times people are in homes and they say, oh, my grandmother, you know, she's still here with us and moves around pots and pans, which never really makes sense to me.

But do you think that they're running into a demonic entity, or do you think, in your opinion, they're running into that person that's just still hanging out? My personal opinion, and I want to say to your audience that there's nothing wrong with being honest about your walk with God or lack thereof or your level of. or your level of expertise or your lack thereof. So this is just, after walking in this for 40 years, this is just my humble opinion. You can throw it right out the window if you want. From experience when people say, yeah, Grandma comes in and opens up all the cabinets

and throws all the dishes in the floor and slides the chair across the room, and I've been in those homes and I've prayed and it stopped. But I didn't pray against Grandma. I prayed against the spirit that was there. The Bible talks about familiar spirits. And this is where deception can be, the Bible says even Satan can appear as an angel of light. So this is where it gets, you know,

if you're going to walk down this road of the supernatural and you're going to deal in the realm of the invisible. You have to be very, very careful and super sensitive because, man, this is such a big subject. You know, the language of the spirit realm is very different. Can I share a quick story with you that might kind of help? Okay. So I've had encounters, I've had different things happen to me through my life

that I want to tell two stories very quickly. One is my, this is how I kind of leaned into there is power in prayer and there is a God and on and on. And I'm not trying to debate anybody here. Just the world according to Randy Hollison. Okay, you get it. All right. So, you know, I don't tell my church, you have to believe what I believe.

I'd say, follow me as I follow Christ. But just know this. I'm not the sharpest tack in the drawer. Okay? If you're going to follow me, I'm not any better than the people in the Bible that messed up royally. So I'll do my best and I'll help you in any way I can. And I mean well, but that doesn't mean I'm right about everything. So I'm 16 and a half, 17 years old.

I'm driving a really cool 66 Mustang. Some friends asked me to go to a lake with them and spend the night and they say, we're going to scuba dive. I had not a clue. I'm a kid that was born in Texas, raised in Oklahoma. didn't live anywhere near water. We had to drive an hour and a half to get to the lake. We went to a area called Mount Scott near Lotton, Oklahoma. You're going to have a number of people that served in the military,

and they were at the base in Lotton, so they'll know about the two lakes that are there. Well, one of the lakes you could swim in. So the two of the kids, they kind of had, their parents had money, and they had their diving credentials. And back in the day, if you had diving credentials, you could get extra tanks for friends and do the buddy system. So that's what they did.

There were four of us. So two of them had their credentials and they got an extra tank each and handed it to us. And, man, it was old school. We didn't have weights. We didn't have a blow-up vests. We just had the tank and fins and a mask. That was it. And so we're swimming around in shallow water at the lake.

And the two experienced guys, which they, now I have my diving credentials, I'm a certified diver, and I know much better than they shouldn't have done what they did. They left the two of us that did not have certification alone and told us to stay in the shallow water. And so they swam off and went to do some diving on their own. Well, I turned to the guy that was with me and I said, hey, you know, I heard that in this cove that there's a lighthouse down there. They put a lighthouse down there if you swim down. You might be able to see it. And I don't know if that's true or not to this day, but I heard it.

And I said, you want to swim down? He said, yeah. I said, okay. I said, if the water gets too cold or too dark, just tap me on the fin. He was following me. I said, just tap me on the fin and we'll go back. But let's stay together. So I swam down about 60 feet.

The water, you know, I went through a couple of thermal clines. The water was getting really cold, really dark. And so I blew out. with my regulator and when I tried to breathe back in, my regulator froze up. Anybody knows anything about diving knows that's not a good thing. Okay? So I pull the regulator out of my mouth. I tried not to panic.

I pushed the little button on the front of the regulator to see if I could get air to come out and I could and I put it back in my mouth, tried again. Nothing's happening. So I don't know anything about the bins and I'm thinking, okay, I'm going to swim to the top here and I'll get to the top and I looked up and man, it was at least 60 feet. and I think I can hold my breath that long. Well, I couldn't. I got about, I still had about 20 feet to go,

and it was like red hot needles were sticking in my brain and all over my body, and I did what anybody would do. I just jerked the regulator at my mouth and breathed in. I had to get a breath, even though I was underwater. And I sucked in all kinds of air, and then I thought, you know what, I don't care, man. If I die from the bins, I die.

I started kicking like a maniac and made it that last 20 feet. Well, now I'm treading water and vomiting and trying to cough all this water up out of my lungs. And I'm treading water and I'm thinking, okay, don't panic. Just stay here and dog paddle and try to keep your composure. To make a long story short, the longer I paddled, the more fatigued I got, I couldn't catch my breath. I was catching little gulps, but I still had a lot of water in my lungs. So I started trying to swim for the shore, but the tank kept sinking me, the tank on my back.

back. And if I had to do all over again, I would have just taken the tank off. But I was worried about the rental fees and me having to pay for a tank and not knowing what it cost. I'm just stupid, but that's what was in my mind. So I kept trying to swim. Well, I went under four or five times on the way back thinking all those times I wasn't going to come back up. And I fought my way back to the top. And I only, I only had about nine or 10 feet to go to get to this cliff face. Now, this lake was manmade and they said where I was that the water was 180 feet deep, straight down. So I've only got like 10 feet left to go, but I ran completely out of gas. There was no energy left in my body. And I gave up. I know that sounds crazy, but there was, I had fought for,

a football field and a half to get close to the shore. And there was a woman standing on top of this cliff up above me, screaming at the top of her lungs for somebody to help me. And I remember her screaming, and I remember me just giving up, and my arms went limp, and I just started sinking. So now I'm sinking, and I'm sinking faster and faster and faster, and I'm just giving into it. And my mother appeared in front of me under the water.

And when she appeared in front of me under the water, I'm just looking at her and she's just standing there and I'm thinking this doesn't make sense but the second I saw her I had an unbelievable amount of energy go through my body

so I immediately started kicking my fins kicked right back to the top and kicked the rest of the way to these rocks and just grabbed a big rock and held on to it so my face was just above the water and some men ran from the other side of the cove and crawled on the rock face and then dove in the water and got me and drugged me to safety, pulled the tanks off, worked on me.

So here's why I told you all that. I drove my 66 Mustang back home that afternoon, and I pulled up in the driveway, and I got out and I walked to the front door, and I'm reaching for the handle, and my mother jerks the front door open. And she said, what happened to you today, Randy? And I looked at her, and she was mad. She was like full-blown panic. And I said, what do you mean?

What happened to me? She said, what happened to you today? She said, I got up at 6 o'clock this morning and I knew that something was wrong. And she said, I went and got your grandmother. Now, this wasn't the grandmother in the nursing home. This was her mother. She said, I went and got my mother. And she said, we've been on our knees all day long praying for you.

So it was at that moment in my life that I still didn't want anything to do with God, but I knew that there must be power in prayer because I saw her as I was dying. Does that make sense? Yeah, it's fascinating. It's fascinating. What changed my life. So now we're going to fast forward. Now I'm like 18 years old.

And again, we had a main drag in Oklahoma City, Southwest 59th, and I'm on Blackwelder, in South West 59th, right in that area. And I've got a long neck, Bud was it was your beer bottle, and I'm drinking. And my brother, my older brother, Rick, is with me. And a guy pulls up on a Kawasaki 1000, a race bike, racing cafe on the front, really cool looking bike. It had a race faring on the front. I say race bike.

It was built to look like a cafe racer. Okay. So he pulls up on this Kawasaki, and he yells out and says, Does anybody want to ride? And my brother Rick said, I do. Okay. And so Rick goes out to the motorcycle and throws his leg over the back. Now, he goes around on the other side of the motorcycle and then he throws his right leg over the bike.

And as he does, please don't think I'm crazy. As he does, I notice something come off of his foot. And at first, I thought maybe he lost his shoe and he threw his leg over the motorcycle. But as I'm watching this item fly through the air, it's coming straight at me, and it's not a shoe. It's a brick. It is a red clay brick. It's coming, tumbling through the air, twirling, twirling, spinning like a football wobbles. And it's coming straight up my face, and it stops about five inches in front of my face.

And the word wreck is chiseled into the brick. So I jump and I start walking toward the motorcycle. to ask my brother to get off and the guy hit the gas and they roared off. So I'm thinking, wow, what was that? That was really weird. About 10 minutes goes by. I'm standing there talking to a couple of guys and a car comes sliding into the parking lot and a girl starts yelling my brother's name.

So I run over and I say, yeah, I know Rick Hollis. I'm right here. And she said, who are you? And I said, I'm his little brother. And she said, well, he just had a very bad motorcycle wreck right up the road. and he's calling for his family. So we jump at a car and we go up the road and sure enough he's laying in the middle of the street

and they had hit the back end. This guy was flying like 90 miles an hour and a car pulled in front of them from a dead stop pulled in front of him and slammed on its brakes and they caught the right rear tail light spun the motorcycle around and he went flying down the road

well over 50 feet in the air and then he rolled another 50 or 60 and he was all laid up with road rash. Believe it or not he didn't have one broken bone but man, they had to rush him. The ambulance drivers were working on him when I ran up. So I never told my brother that. I never told him that I saw the brick.

I never told anybody. I just thought it was weird. Okay. So the reason I bring that up is the language in the spirit realm is very different. That world is very real. The supernatural is very real. That invisible world is very real. And if you're not careful, if you're not sensitive and you're not careful, you will miss those cues.

Now, that's pretty blatant, but other little things happen that didn't make any sense to me at all. And you have to be sensitive and you can't let the little things pass by you. one time I saw a friend's face on a flash card just popped up in front of me right right in front of me and I thought well that was weird so I picked up the phone and called him and he was going through a tremendous I called him and said are you okay and he was going through a tremendous battle and fighting for his life at the time and there was no way I could have known it just that that just happened so I know I'm putting myself out there and I'm hoping that without speaking a lot of Christianese, I'm helping somebody, okay? Because you're going to have people listening. And I promise you you are because it's more prevalent than a lot of people realize or willing to admit.

You've got people right now that are listening to this broadcast that are saying, that's me, man. I've had that happen. Maybe not the brick. The language may be different. Okay. he may use another symbol to mean something, but if you learn to pick up the signals, then a lot of crazy things, incredible things can happen.

That's fascinating. So that's kind of what got you into the path that you're on now is these series of events. I'm sure there's more. Correct. Yeah. You know, it's fascinating. I think, you know, last show we were talking about demonic activity and casting demons out. And I believe in that.

I mean, I really do. And I think that there's things that go on in that world that a lot of people don't want to come forward for. I think a lot of people are embarrassed by it. They don't really, I mean, can you imagine being tormented by a demon and then telling someone about it? And then they laugh at you. I can't imagine a worse kind of hell than that. you know. And so I would imagine even expelling demons for the first time really opened your eyes even more. Yes. Well, having demonic encounters, you know, when you have one, the first thing you think is I hope that never, ever, ever, ever happens to me again.

the level of fear is literally unexplainable. I've never experienced greater fear in my life than when I'm in the presence of a demon. There, you know, and there are people right now listening. I don't want to freak people out, but, you know, if you've ever been in a house alone and you feel like somebody's watching you and you've got that, your skin starts crawling and you feel, like somebody's watching you, there's a pretty good chance that there is somebody watching you from the other world. Can I ask you real quick, you know, when you're dealing with cryptids, like Bigfoot, for example, or Dogman, or some of these other weird cryptids, you'll find a lot

of correlations. And I don't know that if I'm drawing dots, you know, connecting dots that I shouldn't be. But I find it fascinating when you talk to people with alien encounters, where they are interacting with aliens, it's always through telepathy. In demonic encounters, they seem to do the same thing. I've heard other demonic encounters where they absolutely communicate through telepathy. In the Bigfoot world, they call it mindspeak. And a lot of people go, well, you know, they're just an advanced being that can mindspeak. It sounds like the same thing as telepathy that they're talking to you through.

and you do hear that from time to time in the Bigfoot world. And I don't know if you've heard of accounts like that, but do you think all of that is kind of related? All of that is all kind of, they're talking about the same thing, but it's in different forms? Well, in the spirit realm, in that dimension, in that unseen world, in the world that is just beyond our physical capability to see, the people that I know that have. had near-death experiences. And if the people that are listening do not know what I mean by near-death experience, they're also called N-D-E's for near-death experience. And when somebody has an N-DE, that means that they are dead.

They're pronounced dead. Some people are dead for three minutes. Some people are dead for 45 minutes and come back. Okay. all you have to do is search that on YouTube. I'm sure you're going to get a lot of hits, all right? A lot of people out there claim it. There are doctors that have been completely,

they become very spiritually minded after having a number of patients go through that. Almost always, Wes, when people get to that other realm, it is all through the mind that they hear the communication. They don't have to speak. and the entity speaking with them, be it an angel, God, whoever they see, does not have to speak. They just hear it very clear in their head. But don't you find it odd when someone, let's say someone came to you and said, you know, I have Sasquatch on my property and they started mine speaking.

You know, I had less trout on. Les Trout, Survivor Man, he has nothing to gain by talking about it. He was talking about being mindspoke to. This thing was saying, if you want to see a stay, night and he just said he wasn't ready. In my mind, that sounds demonic. I don't know if that's the religious DNA in me talking, but it sounds very demonic for something to talk to you in your mind. What are your thoughts on that? Well, we'll keep in mind that my worldview is somewhat limited and I'm going to approach it. Look, I'm studying an ancient book that I think is the best

book ever written, the Bible, okay? And so I am fundamentalist in one sense. If you're going to do research, there has to be a final authority somewhere. The Bible in and of itself claims to be all about the spirit realm and eternity, okay, angels, demons. It claims, all of those things in and of itself. The book claims it. The book claims to have special power. The book claims to know about all of those things. So when I study that realm, I go to that book. I look for my references. I look for the answers. Okay. I usually don't go too far outside of that because the book warns about familiar spirits. You know, you said, you know, we were talking about dishes flying in the kitchen and

things moving around and is that grandma. And I said, well, it's a familiar spirit. Okay. Where did I get that reference? I got it from scripture. Okay. So from my limited perspective, and I want your audience to know that they're listening to a guy that may very well have a very limited perspective, although I do think that the

book that's been around for several hundred years that claims that it has those answers does have some pretty solid answers. And, you know, I've been pretty skeptical and tried to ferret that out and found that most of the answers I've found in scriptures do line up with experiences I've had. So the mind speak, and I'll use that terminology, that's why I believe that when we get into cryptids such as Sasquatch, Bigfoot, And we talk about Nephilim and fallen angels and them having sex and the offspring being giants. And you look at how big these creatures are. I think it plays into their ability as a offspring of a fallen angel.

Their ability to mind speak falls right in with their DNA. One time I had this lady on the show and she was talking about this dog. man and they had a lot of paranormal activity going on and around this home and I mean very strange activity going on but one day she was sitting there and she used to practice a bunch of different things I won't really go into it but she talked about this dog man materializing in her living room and she said it started out with smoke it was like smoke that just kind of seemed to come out of nowhere. And then this thing manifests itself. And it was this huge dog man. It was tall. And she said it looked down at her and growled. And she took off. Later, her friends were leaving.

I guess they had just left the house. And they were peeling out of the driveway. She hears them tearing apart her driveway as they're taking off. She later calls them and says, what's going on? You know, why you turn out my driveway on your way out? And they said the biggest wolf that they'd ever Christine had come out from around the side of the home, started chasing the car. And what they saw was very physical. What this woman said she saw was very physical. And I know some Christians believe the veil is thinning. And it shocks me that something could materialize. Like, you know, if the story is true, which I believe it to be, it makes me wonder if they're able to materialize. Because you and I talked about dog man, dog man don't seem natural at all in my mind. It doesn't seem

like an elephant or a dog or a cat, it seems like something way out of, you know, left field. What I found fascinating is how it manifests itself and became very physical. Have you ever heard of accounts where demons manifest themselves and become physical like that? Or I know in the Bible it talks about angels can do that, but it kind of shocked me when she said that. I wasn't sure what to make of that. I not only I yeah they can they can and I will I don't know this is going to help but but I believe what I'm about to say um with all my heart I believe it as true experience and through the 37 to 40 years that I've been doing this I it bears out demons their authority

in their power many times if they manifest to where you can see them, they manifest according to size. Okay. So a small demon would have very little power. A five foot demon would have quite a bit of power. And a 10 to 12 foot demon would have a whole lot of power. So if I'm going to do warfare against demons, I'd like for them to be about ankle high. And, you know, I told you that when I went out to the two-story home in our first episode, when I went out to the two-story home to drop the demon-possessed woman off,

that I'd been in their home several times. And while being in their home, I would see black figures a little over ankle high. That moved very quick in my peripheral vision, and they were running around the edge of the couch. In other words, let's say the right side of the couch, I'm sitting on the couch. couch and over by the right arm of the couch, I noticed something black on the floor looking at me, so I turned to look that way and it zips around the side of the couch. So I automatically assume, oh, they got a cat. They got a cat and it's really fast. And then I keep talking to them and in the left peripheral of my vision on my left eye in the left peripheral, I see another cat

setting there black looking at me and look to the left to see it and it zips around the couch. I think this goes back to, you know, you don't want a black cat to race across your path. Yeah. You know, something evil might happen to you. Well, you know what, bro. I've seen a lot of demons that height that very much look like cats. Okay. only in my peripheral.

I don't want to mislead your audience. Never saw them straight on, only in my peripheral. But with as much as you can focus with your peripheral, your eyes able to take in about 30,000 objects in a split second and depth and texture and on and on. But in your peripheral, the further around you get in the peripheral, the less focus you have. Okay.

So with the ability that I've got to focus in my peripheral vision, they look like small cats to meet. And they move much like a cat very fast. And I think that when the old tail, the old wife's tail, the old saying, if a black cat runs across your path, go the other way, there may be some truth to that, not in a real black cat, but that tail may have come. from an area of the country where there's a lot of demonic activity. Whenever I go to somebody's house and they're having a lot of demonic activity,

I try to find the source. Was there seances done here? Did they play with tarot cards here? Did they use the Ouija board? You know, were the people practicing witchcraft, on and on and on. Okay. So you can get into certain areas where there were, I mean, not very far out of Louisville when I first moved here.

south of town, and I won't mention the town, but they said, did you know that there's a lot, there's a witch's coven there, and they do animal sacrifices, blood sacrifices on and on. I said, no, I did not know that. And so there are several areas in that area where there are full-blown pentagrams on the ground. And you can see leftover wax from them burning the candles and blood, what looks like dried blood and on and on. Well, you get into an area like that, it's not uncommon to, for that veil. to be very thin between this world and that world. And you can see these things moving around.

So what if the old tale of, if you see a dark cat, a black cat run across your path, turn and go the other way, what if that's from somebody that was in a very dark area and just from experience of them seeing a black flash? Oh, that must have been one of those cats. I'm going the other way because the last guy that did that, something happened to him.

Okay, so again, height determines authority. Yeah, it's fascinating. It's really fascinating. Have you ever had a full apparition in front of you? Okay. Are you ready for crazy? Are you ready for just straight up? Okay, Wes, you ask for it.

Here it goes. So I am taking a shower one morning and in the shower. I'm washing my hair and I've got my eyes closed. Obviously, the water's hit me on top of the head. And I'm praying for a guy that I know. And while I'm praying for him, another friend of mine is on a flash card. And I see him on a flash card and he pushes the other guy out of the way in my vision. And right in front of me, I just, I've got my eyes closed, but I see this flash card come up.

And it pushes this other guy that I'm praying for a guy named Mike. And this other guy comes into the picture. And in this flash card, he's down on one knee and he's using his forearm to wipe the sweat off his forehead. And so I said, I said, not right now. How loud I did. I just said, not right now. I'm praying for Mike. And so I started praying for Mike again.

I shook my head and started praying for Mike. And here comes this flash card again. Well, this is highly unusual for me. Okay. So when I get out of the shower, I call this guy that was on the flash card. And I said, are you okay? Yeah, couldn't be better. I said, so you're okay.

He said, yeah, I'm fine. I said, okay. did you not going through anything, not feeling any pressure. He said, no, man, it's really good. So I told him about the flash card thing. I said, it was just really weird. And he knows me.

He said, well, man, I'll think about it and I'll call you back. The next day he called me. He said, dude, you're not going to believe this. And I said, what? He said, an IRS agent just walked into my office. This guy owned a company. He said, and this lady was like the devil. sister, very mean, almost evil-looking, told me she was going to do a full-blown honor to my company,

and I'm stressed as I can be. I said, well, there you go. I'm praying for you. Well, this went on for a year and a half. This guy stressed out, lost weight, just, you know, whatever. I mean, this guy was really going through it, and he would call me and say, dude, you got to pray for me. This is going crazy. I may lose my company, everything. And it was over crazy stuff. I mean, he's not like this guy was a big offender. So we continually prayed. Well, one night I come home, and after a year and a half, I come home, and I go in my bedroom, shut the door, and I lay down on the bed, and I turn on the news. Well, at that time, we were living in a five-bedroom, three and a half bath, big home.

And we had a hallway from the master bedroom into the onsuit. The hallway was about six feet long, and there was a closet to the left and a closet to the right. And we backed up to a golf course. So there was no road behind my house. There was no way for lights to shine in my windows or whatever. Now, here's where it gets really crazy, and I'm probably going to lose people. But you have to understand that the spirit realm is very much alive and real, and the spirit realm can communicate any way it wants to.

So I'm laying in bed watching the do's. And just to the left of the television, which is in an office, armwa, wooden armwa, is this hallway. And it is pitch black. There's no lights on in the house. And the master in the en suite or in my bedroom, there's no lights on, just the television. So I see a firework go off in the hallway. And I've only seen this one time in my life.

So I don't want anybody thinking that I'm weird. I see this crimson red firework go off. And, you know, when it's Fourth of July and they shoot off the big stuff. It spins going up and then it pops and it's a big round ball or mushroom or whatever. And these things are massive. Well, just scale that down. It was scaled to size. So scale that down to like, you know, 1% of the size it should be.

And this thing is going up in my hallway. It starts at about this thing's shoulders and goes up and pops right over his head. and it comes down and lands, the red crimson lights land on top of this being's head. This thing was six foot tall standing in my hallway. And the crimson thing that went up started right between his shoulder blades behind his head, went up and popped and then came down and literally landed on his shoulders. So I'm looking at this jet black entity, a silhouette,

that standing, about six foot tall standing in this hallway. Well, I do a lot of spiritual warfare. That really ticked me off. I jumped up and stormed right into that hallway and stood face to face with it and said, no, you don't, not in my house, not tonight. You get out in Jesus' name. When I walked into the hallway, I walked into pitch black. So I knew I stopped just inches from whatever this thing was, wherever its nose was.

I just stopped, right, like estimated three inches from where I last saw it when all the little sparkles went out. Well, that scared me because now I'm toe to toe with this thing and challenging it and talking out loud. And so I quickly walked back and lay down on the bed and go to sleep. I thought, man, that was weird. And now I felt, I felt an immense amount of fear in my room. So I went to sleep. Four o'clock in the morning before 4.15, somewhere in that neighborhood, may have been closer to five. I don't know.

But I hear the loudest thud right next to my bed. It feels like 200 pounds hit the floor beside my bed. I come flying out of the bed. It woke me up. It shook the room. And I'm feeling around on the floor. floor for whatever hit the floor. And I'm thinking my dog, who doesn't weigh 30 pounds, fell out of the bed because we had a dog that slept with us at the time. And I'm feeling around for the dog.

I feel nothing. And I'm thinking, well, it couldn't have been the dog. This was way too big. So I reach up on the bed and the dog slept at the foot of the bed, but it had its own little cover that my wife gave it and it slept under that. So it was still there. So I crawl back in bed and would sleep. So 7.30 the next morning, this guy that's being terrorized by the IRS calls me and he says, hey man, I got a dream to tell you about. I said, okay, what is the dream? He said, the dream starts with me being in a parking garage. And I look up and there's a silhouette standing in front of me, a jet black entity,

silhouette standing in front of me. And it draws a gun and it's going to shoot me. Well, this guy literally in real life is a fifth degree black belt. So in the dream, he runs over, grabs this entity. starts wrestling with it and uses a move a fourth degree black belt would use to break someone's neck, breaks his neck, then grabs him and picks him up over his head and body slams him on the pavement in this parking garage. And then immediately at about 2 o'clock to his right, elevator door appears and it opens. and four other entities step out.

And this guy says to the four entities, unless you want me to do to you what I just did to this one, you'll get back in the elevator. So they back back in the elevator and the door closed and they left. Now at about six o'clock behind him, a white six-paneled door appears.

And he turns around and walks over to that six-panel door and opens the door. And he said when he opened the door, he's opening the door into my bedroom. and he walks in and stands at the foot of my bed and he's looking at me. And I come up on one elbow. And he said he's looking at me and I'm tired.

And he said, hey, Randy, I just want you to know that I went to war against this evil spirit that's been attacking me for the last year and a half. And I killed it. And I won. He said, now you can rest. You don't have to pray for me so much. You can rest. And I thanked him. And the dream went.

And I told him, I said, are you ready? And he said, yeah, I said, not only did that demon come to my house before it showed up in your dream life. But I heard him at the ground when you threw him to the ground. He landed beside my bed. Now, I'm sure I just lost a lot of people. And, you know, again, I may not be that far from crazy. No, I get what you're saying. I mean, you know, I used to always say, and I appreciate sharing that, I used to

always say on the show, I quit saying it because I have a lot of kids listening. But I used to say that if you don't believe in demons, go buy a Ouija board. Go play with it for a month. And then tell me demons aren't real. And then I quit doing that because I'm sure there's someone out there. It's like, oh, you know what? I'm going to give this a try. Yeah, they're very real.

I really appreciate you sharing it. That's a fascinating account, especially you and you two guys kind of had the same thing going on. Well, the reason I told the story is because the world is far more, the spirit realm is far more connected than what people realize. When you're in connection with people and praying with people and interacting with people, they're watching. They're always watching. And it's a pretty mind-blowing thing. Did I tell the story about the Ouija board? Did I tell the story?

No. Or did we just talk about it, Wes? No, no. Do you mind if I tell that? Yeah, please do. Do you mind if I tell that? Please do. A friend of mine, young guy was pastoring a church in Minnesota, and he lived in the church.

He actually lived in an apartment in the back of the church. And so it was real late one night, and a couple of young guys started beating. They knew he lived there, and they started beating on the door. And so he went down and answered the door. It was well after midnight, and he's like, what do you guys doing? And they're crying, and they're like, you need to let us in. We're in trouble and we need help. So he said, what's going on?

And he's holding him outside because he doesn't know. Are these kids going to rob him? What's happening? So he's saying, what's going on? You got to tell me what's going on. They said, well, there were three of us, and we were playing with the Ouija board tonight. We went out and were playing in one of their. backyards. They were playing with the Ouija board. And this entity started answering them.

And they finally asked the entity what its name was. And it gave them a really strange name. And one of the kids said, what the blank kind of name is that? And it answered, I'm a demon. And this kid started yelling at the demon and making fun of them and making fun of the other kids. And this is all stupid. And you're not there. And I don't buy this. And the two boys, boy said that the Ouija board literally floated up off the ground, several inches, and then flew at this kid that was mocking the Ouija board and slapped him in the face and literally rolled him backwards. And when the kid stopped rolling, he set up and he was growling and he started cussing and coming after the boys and tearing at him. And so they started running. They were running all over the neighborhood trying to get away from this kid.

And they realized this is real. This kid's not, this kid, it's not our friend anymore. This is a demon trying to hurt us bad. So they ran to the only person they thought could help him was this guy in the church, this pastor. And the pastor was wondering, are these kids telling me the truth? but he looked out and somewhere across the parking lot not too far away there was some bushes or whatever and this kid was hiding behind the bushes growling and carrying on so somehow some way they went he called another preacher that got up got his clothes on drove over there and they went out and got

this kid and got him to come into the church and they set him down and cast the demons out of him So, you know, my advice to all of your followers, the people that are listening to this broadcast, is, well, let me just be very frank about it. If you've never played with one, don't. If you have one in your home, get rid of it as fast as you can. Don't ever play with it. It's not something to be played with. many instances of people becoming demon possessed through Ouija boards. What do you think they're just opening a door?

Is that what you think is going on? I don't really know that much about Ouija boards. I've read a lot of accounts. I've never played with one. But do you think they're just opening a doorway and bringing in a demonic entity through that? I don't know how the veil gets so thin between this world and that one through a Ouija board. All I know is it gets extremely thin and they're able to pass through. They're able to come in.

Number one, it's their medium. I don't know who invented the Ouija board. I know they sell it as a gain, but it's their medium. It's how they communicate, man. Yeah, it's so odd. You know, a lot of – I see a lot of correlations between cryptids, aliens, and demons. you'll find a lot of things where like, hmm, that's weird. I've heard that before, but it was in this.

You know, like I was talking about with the mind speak, oh, that's weird. I've heard that in Bigfoot encounters. I've heard that in Dogman encounters. I've heard that in alien encounters. I've heard that in demonic encounters. And my biggest concern is, is it all related? Is it all kind of one and the same?

Except for it's just a different, it's got a little different feel to it. Now we're talking about aliens, but they seem to do a lot of things that relate to demonic encounters. Even people who claim to have run into who have been taken by aliens, they'll always report paranormal activity around their home. And it just makes me wonder if it's all related. You know what I mean? Yes. You know, the angelic realm was the same as the demonic realm. I know we've spent a lot of time talking about the demonic realm.

I would like to finish this up with an angel story, if you don't mind. This happened to a very, very good friend of mine. His name is Jonathan. He actually pastors in the state of Texas. He grew up as a missionaries kid. He actually grew up in Africa. And his first language was French, because that's what they spoke there. And so when he was 16, he decided.

to come to America and spend some time with family in America. And his father and mother didn't really want to let him go, but he'd spent most of his life on the foreign mission field in the brush, in the bush. And so they said, yeah, go ahead and go. And so they prayed that God would send angels with him. And so he gets to America, gets a rental car, and he's got to drive from.

the airport a certain amount of distance to get to someone's home. He's really tired, so he stops. And he told me, he said, Randy, I was so tired. He said, I stopped. And he said, man, I didn't have much money. So I went to this really run down motel, different between a motel and a hotel as the doors are on the outside. And, you know, it's just an older setup. So it's really ran down. And there's a lot of rough looking people out in the parking lot, drug dealers, whatever. So he gets the room key

and drives his car around to that side of the building, gets out of the car, pulls his luggage out, he's rolling it. He said, Randy, the people were backing out of the way in droves and just completely getting away from me as I was walking to my room. He said it was the strangest feeling in the world.

They were just, you know, I was afraid I was going to have to bump my way through these people. They were getting way out of the way for me and walking away from me and walking around. And so he goes to his room, goes in, shuts the door, and goes to bed. He gets up the next morning. He goes down. They've got one of those little orange juice, toast type breakfast, you know. He's down there eating and a couple people walk over and say, hey, where are the two great big guys that are with you?

And he said, what are you talking about? He said, come on, man. The massive guys, the big muscle-bound guys that guarded your door all night last night. And Johnson said, man, I don't know what you're talking about. He said, come on, man. They got out of the car with you.

They walked you to your room. You went in, and they stood outside your door. Great, big guys, tough guys. He said, man, I don't know what you're talking about. So those guys saw his angels with him. The funny thing is, he never saw it. I've heard a count like that before. Yeah, it's amazing.

Yeah, he pastors in Texas now and they're doing a great job. But he's a good guy, you know, and he's another guy that he's very spiritual, you know. He's had a lot of encounters. You know, we tend to stick together, you know. You've got the political. side of religion, which is all politics, raising money, trying to work your way up the ranks of whatever denomination or organization you're with. Then you have guys out there like us that really just don't fit the mold. You know, we don't at all. We deal in this realm. And I respect that,

though. I respect that a lot more than a group of men that make a, you know, go beyond the law. start writing their own rules. And I think that's a downfall of most religion. But I respect that, Randy. And I mean, I respect you coming on. And I really wanted to hear what happened to you and how you got involved in all of this, you know, in this crazy world of dealing with demons and demon-possessed people. And it's like I told you on part one that, you know, unless you have a passion,

I mean, something must have happened. Because, you know, someone showing up. up demonic possessed, I'd be like, I'm out of here. I'm done with this. I'm going to go, you know, get my CDL and become a dirt driver. Screw this. So I respect what you do. I really do, and I respect the fact that you try to help people, very sincere, trying to help people. Well, let me just share one thing here. I have, I had two real brothers. One is passed on. I've got one brother left from her mother, those three boys. My oldest brother was mentally retarded.

So we went to a school that had a wing in the school for mentally retarded children, and they had a white chalk line out on the playground. So when the bell rang and everybody went out for recess, the retarded kids went and stayed on one side of the white line, and the rest of us stayed on another. So we could go up to the line, talk to our brother, but we couldn't cross the line

and he couldn't come play with us. And it was very hard watching him get off the school bus, having kids chase him, call him retardo, hit him in the back ahead with books, maybe take off their belts and swing them at him or whatever,

and watch him run home, you know, being chased or being picked on. When I learned to fight as a young boy, I learned to fight guys that were 30, 40, 50 pounds heavier than me that were four or five years older than me because that's how old my brother was and it was kids in his class that did that. So I grew up with a real strong dislike for bullies, got myself in trouble on a number of occasions by waiting into fights where kids were surrounded by bullies and outnumbered. And I would go in and take the kid that was getting picked on. I would take his side and start swinging and fight my way through the whole crowd if I had to to get them to quit picking on him.

And I think that's why that I don't know that I should say chosen. And I really think that maybe all that was a situation. set up to prepare me to try to help people that are bound and don't know how to get out and they're being picked on or they're being lived in as gross as that sounds they're being lived in by spirits that are tormenting them and picking on them and and binding them and that just goes through me man when I see a poor person bound and confused and tormented the fight just comes out I hope that doesn't sound too. No, not all.

I get it completely. I get it completely. I get completely what you're saying. Because a lot of the demonic encounters you described in part one were very bully-like. I mean, they seem like bullies. Oh, they always are. I mean, you know, whenever I start dealing with demons, they're like, you know, get out of here, shut up. You don't have a right.

This person belongs to me. I own this person. They're too weak. They're never going to. they're never going to give me up. I own them. I mean, very arrogant. Some of the things that the demons say are just really, they try to intimidate me.

They try to intimidate me and get me to quit, and I'm not quitting. Yeah, and I respect that. I'll have to have you back when you start your podcast. I can't wait to hear it, but I appreciate you coming on and, you know, just sharing what happened to you throughout your life. I was really curious after part one, and thank you again for coming on. Well, thank you so much for having me, Wes. I appreciate it so much.

And I wish you the very best with your podcast. I know that you've got a lot of fans and you're doing a phenomenal job. I've already told you that. But thank you for doing such a great job. I'm a big fan. Thanks again, Randy. Thank you for the kind words and thank you for coming on. And that's it for tonight.

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