Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:588 Vietnam Veteran Encounters Sasquatch

Episode Date: October 6, 2019

Eli said "I had two encounters the first one was when I was on leave for my 2nd tour in Vietnam. I was deer hunting and had a deer run up to my deer blind and lay down. I could not figure what it was doing. Shortly afterwards I saw what it was running from. I could not understand what kind of creature I was looking at and there was more than one. My second encounter happen about 16 years later and it became violent.   We were camping to going grouse hunting in northern Minnesota. Something picked up our tent with all of us in it and threw it a couple of feet to the side. I ended up shooting what I am sure was a bigfoot, three times with #7 bird shot from 20 to 30 ft away from me and my three companions"   *Truck Diver Interrupts The Creatures Hunt   Armando is a long haul truck driver and he stopped on the side of the road in Texas to use the bathroom. The driver's little dog ran off into the woods. The witness said "I kept calling my dog to come back but he wasn't coming back. I heard wild hogs and it sounded like they were running.   I heard one of the hogs make a sound and I thought oh my god they are killing my little dog. I went into the wood line and saw my dog and he was whining. He would not look at me, he was looking up in the tree. I looked back and up to see what he was looking at and I saw this monkey in a tree. It was huge! This thing vocalized and another one came running. This one was much larger and it was carrying something. I realized he was carrying a 200lbs hog in his arm. The one in the tree screamed at me and then the larger one screamed/roared at me. I thought I was dead. I just held my dog and was shaking….."  

Black thing go from left to right and I thought, I'm going to die out here and no one's ever going to know. I couldn't believe what my eyeballs was showing me. I'll never forget how evil the eyes were. It was a horrible. I mean, I've never seen nothing that evil. It ran towards me at a rate that I can't even explain, turned and stared at me. And this look of, I just want to kill you. I want to say it was human, but it wasn't.

He was yelling at me to grab a gun, grab a gun. I was like, for what? He said, just grab a gun. And there's footprints all the way to the door of my house. It had went inside my garage all the way to the door. 911, what are you reporting? Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about six foot nine, I don't know.

Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right at him. You're listening to Sasquatch Chronicles. Check us out online at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. If you've had an encounter, email me. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight.

Got a great show planned for you tonight. My first guest, Eli, is a Vietnam vet, and he had an encounter in Minnesota. I believe it was back in 1969. was his first encounter while he was out hunting. And then we'll be talking to Armando. Armando is actually a long-haul truck driver, and he stopped to go pee.

He was down in Texas. His dog got out, went running out in the woods, and Armando went after his dog and ended up interrupting a hunt between two of these creatures and got a really good look at both of them. A very fascinating account. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email.

My email is your email. us is Wes at saskawtrunicles.com. And if you get a chance to check out saskotronicles.com for your daily blog, you can become a member, get additional shows. If you get a free moment, definitely check it out. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Eli to the show. Eli, thanks for coming on. Thank you. Yeah, I appreciate you being here. And I know you had an encounter, gosh, right around the time the Patterson Gimlin film was around that time it was being filmed. If you would, just kind of start from the beginning.

If you would, kind of tell us what you were doing and walk us into what happened. Is this about what, 1969? Yes, it was November of 69. I had gone up to a place that I had gone hunting with my dad a few times between Lutzen and Grand Ray, Minnesota. I was going to be going to Vietnam within two weeks, and I just wanted to go hunting one more time up to a place of my dad. I had gone many times before. And I'd gone up a couple of days early to make a blind.

I wasn't a big fan of climbing trees and with those tree stands. And so I built a blind on the ground by taking some galvanized pipe and pounding minors. the ground because it hadn't been froze up there yet and stuck some vertical willow branches in it and weave some other branches through it to make like a I guess like a duck pline actually and left a couple shooting holes I'd been carrying that year I had borrowed it because I didn't have a rifle at that time a Ruger 44 man Magnum, which is a small short rifle. And no scope on it because up in that area in Minnesota,

most of your shots are probably 20, 30 yards because it's so wooded. And the blind was facing almost due north. And to the east was probably an acre or half acre of blackberry bushes. and what I used to call, wait a minute, where you walk through and you get hung up on the thorns and couldn't go anywhere and you spent half the time trying to get out of the thorns. And to the west side was a cornfield that the DNR had planted.

Occasionally they would plant DNR, DNR would plant cornfields and wouldn't pick it so the deer could have something to feed on. And it went in time if the snow was real bad. and that was, excuse me, and that was to the west of me. I was just sitting there for about two hours and actually kind of in the sun, just relaxing, because to be honest with you, I was quite nervous about going to Vietnam again. So it was just a way to get away and relax.

And all of a sudden, I heard something really at the beginning, something coming up the deer trail. But it was really flying up this deer trail. And in Minnesota in that area, there's a fair amount of moose. And at first I thought it was a moose coming up

because of all the noise it was making. But it turned out to be a dull. And the deer ran straight at my camouflage site and made it turn to the east.

following the dirt trail, then went to the right of my camouflage stand, and turned in to where I was sitting. And it just startled the heck out of me, and I didn't know what was going on. This year's tongue was hanging out. Steam was just rolling off of it. It was all lathered up. the deer came in behind me and not more than six to eight feet away laid down and I was dumbfounded. I didn't know what was going on. And I hadn't really heard much of Sasquatches or Bigfoot's.

I guess I never paid attention to it. Even if I had, I don't know if I would have believed about two or three minutes went by. and this did sound like a moose coming through that cornfield. And dry corn makes so much noise. And this was in November, so, you know, all that corn was dried out. And obviously, I didn't have a moose license, and they can get kind of ornery. So I kind of backed up as far as I could, but there was a deer behind me. And then I heard something to the right coming through those.

fizzles and blackberries and raspberries or whatever they were all of a sudden all the noise stopped and i didn't know what was going on and then the noise from the cornfield started up again but it wasn't coming at me anymore it was going parallel to me and was i guess it'd be horizontal to me and all of a sudden this gorilla as far as I knew, stepped out from the cornfield, looked my direction, and stepped right back into the cornfield. And then I heard, I want to call it a whistle. I was so stunned, I don't know what I actually heard, to be honest with you. And then that same noise was repeated to my right. and I was simply terrified.

I lay down in that little area I had by 44 across my chest and didn't move. I just laid there. And I must have laid there for half an hour. And I kept hearing the one in the cornfield just making all kinds of ruckus, running back and forth, back and forth. but the one to my right on the east side didn't really move

I seen the top of its head because those willows are the berries or whatever you want to call them back over there with the thorns on it was about seven and a half or eight feet tall and all I could see was a top

of a head I think it was ahead at that time all of a sudden the one on the left-hand side screamed and took off away from me. And at the same time, the one on my right side took off away from me. And this doe casually got up and walked away. And I thought it was going to have to go empty my drawers. Yeah, I don't blame you.

Strange behavior for a deer, but you tend to hear that. lot in a lot of encounters with hunters. They'll show up and they'll lay down next to a deer stand, which is so bizarre. The one that stepped out that looked like a gorilla, can you describe what you saw from what you remember? Yeah, it was a long time ago. A lot happened since then. It was dark, dark, dark brown. I'm going to say almost the black, was a little bit of, red on the tips of the fur i guess you want to call it highlights and uh i never really seen the face because it stepped out and stepped right back in and all i could see it from that point on was the uh fur kind of sticking out from the cornfield because it hadn't gone but about a row in

and I could see, you know, a dark object in the cornfield. That's all I could see. And the one on the other side, I could, I never seen that. I just seen the top of a head, which was a brown, and that's all I seen over there. Let me ask you, what do you think was going on, in your opinion? Do you think they were chasing this deer? I think they chased that deer out. of where its cover was, it ran down the deer trail and turned the corner.

And I don't think it knew I was there at first. But it turned to the east and then made another turn to the west, you know, just a matter of a few feet and came right into my little land or ground blind. I was just totally stunned. I wouldn't shoot a dough. I didn't have a dough license. And I really didn't care if I even harvested a deer. I just wanted to go up north and I just wanted to get away and try to relax for a few days. I understand.

Weird behavior for a deer. It's almost like the deer know I'm going to run up to this human and I'll be safe. you know, that's outside of everything we know about deer's behavior, generally they'll run from you before it to run up. And it's almost like it knew. To be honest, it's lucky. I didn't run over it, trying to run away. But I figured that, you know, I'd been over it to not months.

And running was not a good idea. It was stand your ground. And that's what I did. I think they were chasing that dough, and when it came in by me, they got my scent, or they smelled me, and stopped, and were a little upset. And the one of the corn started running back and forth. I think it was trying to flush that deer out. Well, let me ask you this, Eli. What did you think you were looking at at the time?

I mean, here it is 1969, and you're running into guerrillas in Minnesota, or what you described to be a gorilla. I mean, what was going through your mind at the time? Well, you know, I had heard a Bigfoot and Sasquatch. And initially, you know, it was a gorilla. I don't know how one got there. But as I was just laying there flat on the ground, I went, you know, talking to myself, basically. I said, this has to be what people call. called Sasquatches or gorillas or bigfoots.

And that's all I knew, other than the fact that I was terrified. Because even with that 44, I had with the size of this thing, I don't think I could have brought it down. It looked like it was, oh, I liked wrestling. And it looked like it was Andre the giant standing out there, the fur. just you know something like him anyway back then

just a huge beast and I was just terrified and after it was all over with and they went on their way I packed up my stuff and I went back to Minneapolis yeah I mean no one can blame me for that

and it's so it's such a unique encounter I realize this is 1969, but I've heard many encounters like this. A lot of hunters will say the deer come running right up to them, and the hunters are confused. They're not really sure what's going on, and then moments later they'll see the thing that's chasing it. Very bizarre. But you go off to Vietnam, and then you come back a couple years later, four or five years later, and you have another experience. Tell us what happened. Four of us from where I worked. went to

on a Friday we decided let's go grouse hunting on that Saturday so we left from work and went up to oh a town an area called Deer River

which is in what county is that I'm trying to remember I can't remember a county is it's I Taska County it's central Minnesota as far as

that's about four hours away but it's in the central part of the state and it's really good grouse country you know both of us were ex-military and we decided well let's just go ahead and camp out and save some money

because we're just going to hunt for a day and then come back well we went to bed about crawled into tents about 10 30, 11 o'clock and we built a big fire to, you know, ward off bears, if there was any bear black bears. All there was is Minnesota's black bears. I've seen one cougar, I guess, the whole time I've done the state, and that was near my home

here just about 10 years ago. We crawled on the tents, and the other tent was at a right angle for me, about 15, 20 feet away, and both openings were facing the fire and heard something out in the brush didn't know what it was or sure that it was a deer or something I wasn't attuned to hearing biped or whatever I just heard something out there and all of a sudden whatever it was

started running and all of a sudden my tent was trampled and basically picked up and rolled over. We had the type of tents that weren't staked down. They were just those fiberglass rods that held them up. And this tent basically took off and rolled us both over. And I crawled out and encased my shotgun and put four rounds in it.

I had a, it was a Benelli at the time. It was either Benelli or a brownie. I can't remember which one it was. And, you know, the guys on the other tent came out, what the hell's going on? And I go, I have no clue what's going on. I said, something just ran over us.

I'm assuming it's a bear. And so we stood around, talked for a little bit and they helped me set the tent back up and crawled back in but i uh kept the shotgun loaded and had it you know barrel pointed out the opening but then about 20 minutes after we laid back down they started hollering i crawled out as fast as i could and i looked over towards her tent and I seen something kind of around the corner from their tent. Their tent had been flipped over too. And in fact, one of the guys was pretty not bad he heard, but very uncomfortable because he

got stepped on. And when I looked out, this all happened a matter of seconds. I just seen something running away and I fired three times. And it was, you know, we were grouse hunting. So I had number seven birdshot in it. And I figured it was a bear, and I just didn't want it to come back. But I hit it in the backside. I'm sure it was the backside, and it screamed.

And we all looked at each other and went, bears don't scream. We sat up the rest of the night, you know, until the first dawn, first light, and we left. I didn't want anything to do with that And we went over To the area it was at But it was so dry and it was so All the leaves were down because it was the fall And I could see

Where a freight train had gone through the brush And kicked up the leaves But there was no footprints or anything like that I never mentioned to the guys I was with About the first incident I didn't want them to think I was crazy. This has never been told except to my wife. And it's only people that know this except for the guys I are with.

And only one of those, them are currently still living. That's about it. Yeah, it's a fascinating account. I really appreciate that you would take the time to share it here. It makes you wonder if it was, I mean, we're just speculating here, Eli, but it makes you wonder if it was like a young one that was coming through and was just kind of screwing with you guys or, because a lot of times in the behaviors I've noticed from interviewing eyewitnesses in situations like what you're in, they will do stuff like this, but it's

generally the young ones, you know what I mean? I would, would have been two or would have been one, one going one direction and the other one later coming the other direction because I could see I don't want to say silver but the back side of it looks shiny you know what I mean it kind of with the fire it kind of shimmered a little bit are you talking about when you shot it yeah you know what I could see and I just I probably wasn't the proper thing to do but I wasn't about to have that thing trample on us again whatever it was I don't I figure bird shots were really not going to, even if I figured it was a bear, I said bird shots really aren't going to do any harm to that thing at 20 or 30 yards away.

It's going to hurt. Yeah, that's about it though. Yeah. Definitely going to hurt. And, you know, they had their, you know, it was that time of year, they're going to go in the hibernation. And they had, you know, I didn't think at the time, but they had a heavy layer of fat on them. and the fur we had been awful thick at that time too. But the way it went across the top of them and me, you know, it wasn't a bear.

After you think about it, you know, bear wouldn't have done that. No, I don't think so either. I don't think, and then came back. I don't think, I don't see a bear doing that. And, you know, after all this happened, did you talk to your friends that were there? Were you guys, was there ever a conversation of what the hell was that? Yeah, we talked about, we talked about, you know, about what it was. And a couple of them mentioned Bigfoot or Sasquatch.

And I just basically played dumb. I didn't want to admit that I had an encounter once before. We just talked about what it could possibly in. And two of the guys were, you know, pretty convinced that it was a saskatch or Bigfoot. And the other person didn't really have an opinion. They thought it was a bear. And I didn't think it was a bear, but I wasn't going to say anything else. Yeah, I don't blame you.

And I know you went to Vietnam. You saw a lot of bad things, and I would imagine most that sticks with you in your life. life. But relating back to this encounter when you guys were this situation and the one before, did it ever affect you in your life? Did you ever go, I'm never going camping again. I'm never hunting again. Screw this. Well, I've never been a big of camping, especially after Vietnam, because I spent close to two years in a Quonset hut, you know, which is much more than sleeping in a middle tent. So I really know. ever gone camping again unless it was in a tent trailer that my parents used to have,

which is, you know, just a tent that's on a frame. Kind of a pop-up, yeah. Yeah, it was a pop-up. You know, they're not even allowed in the Yellowstone anymore because the bears have a tendency to rip the ends of them off. And unless you're in a special area that only, that tent, that tent campers can be in because they don't want to take a chance of a bear, you know, egregiously going through there.

Yeah, and I know you've had, you know, over 50 years to really think about this, going back to your first encounter. What do you think that they are? What's your opinion, Eli? I mean, you got to look at two of them. I know it's not a great look, but you got to look at two of them. You kind of experience the behavior in two different encounters. What's your opinion?

I think they're in a species all their own. I don't think they're a human that's changed or I can't explain what I'm trying to say. I don't think it's a grilla that's got different genes or even a human with different genes. I think it's a species all its own like gigantic hypothesis, I think of those. called back then. It's got to be something like that. It's got to be something that still exists.

And that you know, there's people in Africa that still say there's dinosaurs out there. What makes them think that there's something like this couldn't still exist from

you know, 200,000 years ago? or 50,000 years ago. Yeah, good point. Good point. There's, there's, we know so little. I've moscow to all over the world. And there's so many things underwater that we don't know about. And we haven't even looked at all the land in the United States,

the little in the world. How do we know what's still there? So you think it's more of a kind of a natural animal we haven't caught up with? Yeah, I do. I don't think it's an alien or anything like that. I think it's something that's left over. Yeah, you could be right. Let's hope you're right. And it really, it's one of those fun questions I like to ask because there's really no wrong answer because no one knows. As you brought up, I mean, there's so many places around this world we haven't even stepped foot on. And even places in the Pacific Northwest, people haven't stepped foot on. They like to think they have, but I guarantee there's places out here where no man has been out in the middle of nowhere. You know what I mean?

I've always wanted to go there or go out to Washington State in that area. Closest I got was California in the service. Yeah. But after my two incidents, I've wanted to know more. but I didn't want to say, hey George, hey Fred, let's go to Washington State and learn more about these things. And I just never had the courage to ask anybody to do it. And until I started listening to your show, I didn't know anybody was out there really interested in. Yeah, the encounters happen more than most people might think.

you know, it's, and I'm thankful that people like yourself will come forward and share what happened to them. Because I think it helps the next person coming along going, well, you know, maybe I'll talk about what happened to me. And that's kind of the whole point of the show, you know what I mean? It's been 40 years, you know, roughly for me. And, but I can still see the one in the cornfield where, why, out, looked in my direction, then step back. I can still see it. I never had a real good look at it, but I can still see it standing there and knowing that that 44 only held, I think, was four or five rounds. Like the old Router 1022s, you know, the rotary clip. And I only had like four rounds or something in it.

And I thought, if that thing comes with me, I don't know if I can knock it down. I was going to aim for the knees or something like that. You know, the legs, because with the legs, you can't move. And it might have given me a chance to get away. I'm sorry, but I'm going to sacrifice that dough. Yeah, well, thank God I didn't come to that. You know, and it is kind of weird how they kept their distance. from you, you know, and almost like the dough knew I'm going to run to a human and, you know.

I don't know if it knew I was there immediately until it turned that corner. Because I had a really good crown line. You know, maybe it was just trying to hide like I was. And I was trying to hide from their species. Yeah, I hear you. Well, it's a fascinating account, though, Eli. And I really appreciate you taking the time to come on. And God bless you.

Thank you for your service. I know that's something that's very cliche to say. But, I mean, you got to love the heart of a volunteer. You know what I mean? You got really surprised of all the people that will stop me. And I'll have a Vietnam hat on or something like that or a vest or something on from combat. They'll stop me and shake my hand. I went to Vegas one time and I couldn't walk 10 feet without somebody stopping me to shake my hand.

I finally had to take my hat off. I couldn't get anywhere. Yeah, you shouldn't be surprised like that. That's how we should treat our veterans. You know, I know it's not how you guys got treated when he came back from Vietnam, but, you know, war is ugly. I don't think anyone really loves war. And I've said that before in the past. I don't think any, I disagree with every, I can go through every war and disagree with,

every single war we've been involved in. But having said that, you got to respect a guy that will put a uniform on stand-upost and do his job and it's a volunteer. And, I mean, God bless you. You know, no wonder if people should shake your hand when he walked down the street. You've earned it. I just did what my country asked me to do. And I was a volunteer since I was in the Navy, so I wasn't drafted. I had health issues, so I couldn't have been drafted, so I joined anyway.

Yeah, well, God bless you, man. God bless you for doing it. And again, thank you for your service. And thank you so much for taking the time to come on. I hope I didn't sound too flustered, but I was pretty nervous here. No, you did great. You did great. Thanks again, Eli.

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I told one other person. Yeah, well, I appreciate. appreciate you being here, and I know you're a truck driver and your encounter took place in Texas. If you would, would you mind just starting from the beginning and tell us what happened? What did you see? All right. I'm originally from New Jersey, and you would have to be the most famous one, you know. And, you know, I'm from a city, which I've never been camping and I've never done anything like that, you know, in my life, the woods or anything like that. And anyway, I'm an owner-operator truck driver, and I was on my way to Dallas, Texas, from New Jersey to buy a trailer, you know, so I can continue making more money.

And I was 20 West, going on a night, 20 West. And I have my dog with me. His name is Buddy, little Jack Russell. Really cool dog, you know, keeps me occupied. And I was passing this stretch of road right along Longview, Texas. Okay. I remember correctly because, you know, once I went back and researched everything where I was and what happened, I was crossing Longview, but on I-20. And, okay, in I-20, West and East was divided by a long, long patch of wood that divides the West and the East side, you know.

Anyway, okay, so a lot of times when I'm, it's called bob tailing, you know, where you don't have the trailer with you. And I'm able to pull over on the side of the highway. And it just happened to be a patch where I can pull over. And I let my dog out, you know, so the dog can go and do what it does, you know. Normally he likes to run around and, you know, sometimes you bring me back a mouse or something like that. Little lizard or something. And anyway, I put a little bell on his neck.

It was around, it was, the time was around 5.30 in the morning. It was a little bit chilly. This happened in, it was St. Patrick's Day, March 17, January, March 17, I think it was. And so when he goes into the woods, you know, because he likes to wander around all over the place. And the truck, I get out, and I'm just hanging outside, picking a look at the stars and stuff like that. And then I see he went into the woods and I tell him, all right, come back real quick. He understands me.

A little time went by. And then I started to notice that there was no sound. It was off the highway. You know, I had walked into the wooded area a little bit from my truck, you know, just to get away from the highway a little bit. And I noticed that there was no sounds. And to me, I was like, what else going out? Yeah. No crickets, no morning birds. But it was like 5.30 in the morning, you know. And the sun was going to be coming up pretty soon. There was like a little tiny cold mist in the air, you know. I said, what is going on? Nothing. I can't hear anything. And then I could hear my dog's little bell, you know, ringing and she's going through the woods. And then all of a sudden, I felt like this feeling that something is watching.

I got chills in my spine and I was looking around and I was like, what the hell is that? And then I kept like looking around and looking around nothing, nothing. And then all of a sudden I couldn't hear my dog's bell. And I said, hey, hey, buddy, he wouldn't answer me. He'll normally bark. You know, he'll bark at me and let me know. And then all of a sudden I heard like animals running through the woods,

like a little different, different, like a little, through the woods You call it that And they're like What sounded like pigs To me You know Like like

Pigs sound You know Okay man I know that in Texas There's wild boars And I've ran into them When they cross the roads You know

When I've been out in Texas They cross the road You know Like it's nothing They'll cross the road In the middle of the night And they want you to get out of their way Stop for a minute

And then Again They started running really fast again And then I heard I heard something Like a like a squeal From coming from one of the pigs that could hear it super loud like something had grabbed a hold of this pig.

And it was going off. And then I was like, oh, my God, my dog, you know, buddy, buddy is started calling out to him. Buddy, he wouldn't, he wouldn't answer me and I couldn't hear a bell. So then I got closer and closer and I started creeping into the woods where I saw Buddy go in. And it was about, you know, I kept walking and walking maybe, maybe like 30 yards into the woods. and then buddy come here hey nothing i couldn't hear nothing and then i can hear the pig again squeal again one last time a loud squeal and then the other pig's running and then uh it was like a wow it was like oh my god he either buddy grabbed him by the nuts or something because buddy's really

tiny but it's tiny you know and the pigs stop squealing it'd be buddy because pigs are a lot bigger than him And then I said, hey, come in, where are you? And he would not ask him. And I was like, oh, my God, they killed my dog. And, okay, so I kept walking and walking. And I finally heard a little, like a little whimper from him, you know? And I said, hey, what are you doing? Come here.

Where are you? And I saw him. And there he was standing. And he was looking straight up, like frozen, looking up at a tree. And I said, come here. What are you doing? What are you doing? And at the same time, my lights, Wes, I shut the truck off, but I leave my lights on so I can shine them into the woods towards where I'm heading and where Buddy is heading, you know?

And I have some powerful fog lights and I have some good lights that can shine through the leaves and some trees, you know? So then the light was shining on him and part of the tree. And I said, come here, what are you doing? And I'm looking around for the pigs. And I'm going, where the I said, are you all right? And then he would not move. He wouldn't move. And he kept looking up into the tree.

And then when I looked up into the tree, oh, my, I'm getting chills right now. There was this, there was like a monkey, giant monkey looking, crouching on a branch that was broken, maybe like 15 foot up of the tree, maybe a little bit more. But I can see it because of the light of the moon. and my light sort of shining into the woods, I can see the bottom half of it, and I can make up the top. It was moving his arms, and I was like, what to myself?

I didn't say it out loud. I was just quiet, and my dog got behind me, and he started whimpering a little bit right in between my legs. And then I said, oh, my Lord, what the hell? He made a loud noise and was pointing away from me.

I was facing it, but it was giving its back to me. while I was on, what it was on the branch. And then it pointed, and it made it sound like this, which I go back in time was, and I remember everything clearly. You know, I recall it. It made it sound like this. Rock, like that.

And I was like, it sounded like rock. All of a sudden, in front of it, maybe like another, maybe like another 15 feet in front of it, the woods started to, you can hear it like crashing. And out of nowhere in front of came out this other looking huge. And I was like, my heart just started pumping so fast. And I got down my dog and I was hiding in between some bushes. And I was like, oh, my Lord, and the lights were hitting it.

My lights were hitting that being on the bottom half of its feet and a little bit of its, of its belly. A little bit. And I was like, oh, my Lord. I said, what is that? and then the one that was on the tree said something else. It sounded like a... Some weird mumbling. And then the one that was coming out of the woods

had something in its arm. And then it just moved a little bit closer. The light started going up and up, up its body. And I can see that it was a huge... And that's the pig that I was hearing squealing. I'm guessing, you know? Anyway, it started to... to move forward and forward and then all of a sudden from the wooded area that divides the highways

the east and the west side i heard a chirping sound which sounded like this like and then my dog looked that way and i looked that way and and the creature that was on the tree turned around and i could actually now i can see a little bit of its face and look that way too and then look down and look towards us. And I was like, oh my God, they spotted us. They spotted us. And she said to him something. She said to the big, it was a male.

It was a male. I'll tell you why in a little bit. And the one that was upstairs was a female. I found out later on. Anyway, she said something to him, which sounded like something like that. And then she jumped down from the tree. almost 20 feet up, Wes.

And when this thing hit the floor, I took towards him and sort of like told him something. And then he started looking my way. And then she screamed. She did it like a loud towards me. Chills down my spine and it felt like I got hit. And then she started to like look towards where the wooded area was, where the chirp came from.

And she took off. I've never seen anything move that fast. This thing, this thing took off. And it was on two legs. It was like a big monkey running faster than anything I've ever seen. And then she disappeared into the wooded area going that way. And he just kept staring at me. And I can see he was staring at me because the lights were hitting it, the same color.

You know, the lights in the back of a car. Yeah. And it started moving closer to me. And he was like, maybe like, like I said, I was in the woods like 30 years. in, he was like another, another 20 yards away from me. It's not completely wooded, but there's little patches of woods around. And then he began to move closer to me. And my dog just started going, like, let's go, let's go, let's go.

And finally, he got so close, I got to see the entire figure. And it was, oh, my God. Oh man Was like three times a bodybuilder The legs I can see that his feet I can see from the feet All the way up to his chest

And a little bit of his chin And I can see the red eyes He had legs He had a skinny waist But he was bulky On the top and all of a sudden It opened up to a massive Boulder looking chest

His shoulders were Oh my God That's one thing that you can notice the most. His shoulders were so wide, so big, and he had long arms. His arms were hanging past his knees. He had one pig. He had the pig in one arm, and then the other hand just hanging past his knee. Like his elbow was hanging past his knee. And right away, I was like, my God, says, what am I looking at? And then it was dripping water. I can see, be conceived from the lights. You know, the the light itself and the pig

steaming. You know, like in the winter time when you're running around and it's cold and the steam comes off your body. Yeah, when you're sweating. It was like giant steam coming off of water dripping. And then I was already like standing

up a little bit, a little bit, but he could see me because I'm looking up. I'm looking up at him and he was like in a little bit of a of a cliff not too big, but he was going up, you know, where I could see him. He was standing going upwards from where I was.

So anyway, he screamed at me. When he screamed at me, he moved up a little bit more, and I can see his face now. And he opened his mouth. When he opened his mouth, this roar, lion tantrum scream came out of him. That knocked me backwards. It knocked me backwards. me even more backwards. And it was something like the way she screamed,

but even louder. Like a loud... And it lasted. I was like, oh, my Lord, what? No, no, no, no, no. I started saying no. No, no, no, no. No, no.

No. And my dog took off. He took off. And I normally leave the door of my truck open so then I can have quick access to the truck. When I come back, I leave it open. I leave the radio on sometimes. But anyway, my dog is so tiny.

He has never been able to jump in the truck. He jumped in the truck because I found him inside the truck later on. You know, he has never been able to do that until that day. And anyway, he took off. And then all of a sudden, this thing stopped and sort of like his lips curled. And I can see his teeth. I can see the nails. It was full of hair.

His whole body was full of hair. Maybe like three inch, four inch hair. you know and he was like a like a brown d'aray and she had gray hair around his neck like a part of his neck was gray and he had like a like a nice manicured goat i was like i was like what the hell is this and then he moved up more a little bit more and that's when i was like he's going to come at me and i said no no no no and he screamed at me one more time and he still holding the pig in his hand This pig was, West, this pig was a big pig. This was a wild boar, black, with the tusk and everything.

He really see him. He had his mouth open and his tongue was out. And this guy had probably just choked him and broke his neck when I was hearing all. And he moved up a little bit more. And he started to like sniff the air and like curl his teeth almost like like the monkeys do. You know, like. And then he started to sniff the air. sniffing the air around.

And then he sort of like looked. He hunched over and looked to the left and looked to the right. And he was swaying a little bit back and forth. And I was like, oh, my God, he's getting ready to come after me. And I was frozen whilst I could not move for my life. I was like, go, move. And I couldn't move. He had little things, little canines like we do.

But I guess bigger than ours because this thing was a monster. this thing had to be oh from later on and going back and looking at this situation the size of the trees this thing was about eight feet tall and strong solid and his teeth

and his toenails and his and his nails and his hands were like a dark greenish yellowish looking dirty yellowish green nails teeth were yellow because I could see them shining

in the light that were yellow and he opened his mouth he had a mouth that was like from ear to ear he opened up as you know how when a big gorilla opens his mouth and shows you his fangs it was something like that

when he did like that like if we do a yawn but six times the width of our yawn it was so big and his tongue was pink never forget it and then he sort of like did like a like a no no no no I'm leaving

I said I'm leaving and I also said to him I said, I'm not here to hurt you. I'm not here to hurt you. And I don't know if he understood or whatever, but that's what I said. And I don't even know how that came out of me, but I said it.

And then he did another scream to me again. And that's when I said, oh, Lord, that's enough. I'm out of here. And I started backing out, back and out. And he moved towards me a little bit more, a little bit more. And he kept smelling the air. And he kept looking to side to side.

And I'm guessing he was looking at my hands Because he would duck down And he would look side to side And look towards my hands And then I was like I was showing him my hands like this like And then I realized I said Oh man this thing is looking at my hands

And I didn't know what the hell this was It's looking at my hands And then I was like no no I'm leaving I'm leaving I'm leaving And I started backing out Backing out And then as he kept coming forward a little bit And he was still like, as I was backing out, he was still like a good distance from me.

The lights hit him even more, and I can see him even clearer. His head was a small head. It wasn't big, but it was like a rounded, not the conical that a lot of people have been saying, because I've been listening to your show, and I've never heard your show until somebody, I told somebody my story, another truck driver from in the country. And they told me, you saw a bugger. And I said, what? He said, you saw a booger?

He said, a Sasquatch. And I said, what, really? And then it came to me, the video of Patty. It came to me, bloom. And I said, oh, my God, that's what it's, holy shit. That's what it. And anyway, he had like a rounded head. And it wasn't that big compared to the size of that body.

He had muscles that no bodybuilder could ever have, no matter how many steroids these people. Through the light and the hair, But the wind and the wind was going towards him. I couldn't, there was no smell. You know, like people say there was a smell. There was no smell because the wind was going towards him. I wasn't going up wind.

I was going downwind. And, oh, he had a huge scar on his leg, West. He had a scar on his thigh. That when the wind was hitting it, you can see the shiny because it's, healed over. Yeah. And it looks like a tight patch of skin from the scar. His scar must have been, that scar was about seven, eight inches long.

And I put two and two together later on. I'm saying he had that big scar on his leg big for a long time. And one of them finally got him, but it healed over. And that's what it looked like to me. Like if somebody took a knife and cut him in the thigh and then it healed over, you know. Okay, so I'm backing out I'm backing out And I can hear my dog

In fact, I could hear him from inside the truck He's screaming And I was like, I'm coming, I'm coming And I'm backing out, backing out And all of a sudden I heard on the other side Where I were all the female How I know it was a female Because when she got close to him

And the light sort of hit it, I can see that it had breast It was a female And it didn't have the breast, like the potty video like long big hanging no this were like like mussela-looking breasts they weren't really hanging hanging breasts but they were like solid and she was she was covered with hair and she was she was like a like a like a little bit lighter brown than he was almost like like coffee like like a light brown coffee like when you put milk in the in the coffee it was that kind of brownish color

that I can see. Okay, so I heard something going on in the wooded area in between the highways, and it sounded like I got talking to each other. And later on, I figured it out. I said, that little chirp was probably a baby that they left while they were hunting. And then as I started walking backwards, I was like, I'm leaving, I'm leaving. And I said to myself, I better get out of here because this guy's going to grab me, And he could have just taken a couple of steps, West, and been right on me and destroyed me.

But he did not. He did not. I felt real scared in the beginning, but as he kept sniffing the air and just walking slowly towards me, he gave me a nod. Like a nod, like a move, like go. And that's what I got. Like, like, go. Get out of here before my wife comes back or something like that, you know? And that's what I sense from it.

And I was like, I'm leaving, I'm leaving. And I kept backing out, backing out. And my truck is right behind me. So I'm walking backwards. My truck is behind me. And the truck is shining the light on both of us. And he wasn't completely onto the highway. I was onto the highway already.

And I was about to start walking towards my truck. But I said, just keep walking backwards. Keep walking backwards. Don't give him your back. And then he stepped out into the side of the road. He stepped out and I could see it clearly now. My lights were hitting it dead on, man. And this thing started covering his eyes,

like the lights were actually bothering him a little bit. And then he looked over to where the female and I guess the baby was. And he did like a, like a... I remember clearly was the sounds are in my head. Then he stopped. He sort of just stopped and I can see he moved his arm and I can see moved his arm and I can see the pig. He picked up the pig to show me. He picked it up like this right by the back of the pig's neck. I'm not here for the pig. I'm not here for the pig.

And I backed up and I finally jumped in the car and he's still standing there. He's still standing right there and I can hear the baby and the mom, I guess. I got in the truck. I slammed my door and I had to bat any in front of the truck, maybe like I said, maybe like 25, 30 feet from the truck. So I turned the truck on. When I turned the truck on, he sort of got a little startled, and he went, ooh, I'm leaving. I kept saying I'm leaving, and my dog is inside the truck, and I'm looking for it, and I'm going, and he was underneath the blankets in my bed. You know, you know, we have, we have beds. And he was underneath the blankets going off. And I said, I said, we're leaving, we're leaving, we're leaving. And then I started to back out slowly and slowly and

slowly and I finally put the truck on the highway. And for some reason, I-20, I-20 is not a lonely road, West. But that day, there was really not too many people around, man. There was not people around. Maybe another car went by the other side that I think I heard. Shulh, but that was about it. And no sound.

There was no sound in that area. And I backed out, I backed out, and he finally sort of put the pig back down the way he had it. And he ran, he ran across the road real quick towards the wooded spot where, where I guess his family was. I backed out and backed out and backed out and backed out and backed out for all enough, where I could say, how did they go? I could not see them anymore. And then I started moving forward.

I started moving forward. And, you know, those gears are really, they're short. And I couldn't move fast. You have to go second, third, fourth, and you go slowly until you hit like six gear. Then you start moving pretty quick. Be slowly. slowly, slowly, slowly, and then I kept looking, looking and looking and looking, and then I seen them again. They were inside the woods, but I can see from his height, I can see his head, and he was looking

right at me, and I could see him, and I couldn't see his eyes at this time, because I guess the light wasn't shining on him no more, but I can see the reflection of his head, you know, and then I kept driving, and if I looked through my mirror, I kept driving, I looked through my mirror, he stepped out a little bit onto the road with a pig in his hands still and to see if I was really leaving. And then I started driving away slowly and my heart was pumping. I was so scared. My dude pissed himself. He had pissed.

Oh, man, I don't blame him. I don't blame him, my poor guy. And then I was heading towards Dallas. I pulled over, man. I pulled over at the rest area and I had to compose myself and say, what that. Nobody's going to believe that I just saw this thing. And it was two of them. It was a male and a female.

And I'm guessing they had a baby, the big patch of wood. And he signaled them that I was there. And that's what I felt that something was watching me. The baby was watching me. But I got the feeling that something was watching me. And it had to be the baby because at that time, I hadn't walked into the woods yet when I got that feeling. I never thought about soft squash, you know, and it never really faced me.

Until that day, now I'm fascinated by these beings. I'm fascinated, Wes. And then the guy who told me about the bugger told me about your show. He said, go online and go and check this show out. Go to YouTube and check them out. And he said, Sasquatch Chronicles. I wrote it down and I started listening since like the last year and a half. I'm from New Jersey, and we tell it like it is a hunted.

I've never been any of those people. But I know what I saw, man. I know that they exist. And I remember hearing a story about another guy from Longview who told the story, the same area. Because I got to research. If in that area, there was Sasquatch. And there was another guy from Longview who I think he said that he hit one with a car. And then later on, he told his father said, what the hell happened to the car?

And he said, I hit a deer. And he didn't tell his father the story. But when he called in and he told the story, he said that he hit a softwatch with the car. And then I started thinking, I started saying, could this be the same Sasquatch? And the scar on his leg was the scar from him being hit by the car? You know? And I'm just wondering. But that Longview area, there is a lot of words around that area, especially the part of I-20 where I was going through.

There's a lot of woods out there and a lot of wild animals. Yeah, and, you know, the account, Armando, it's fascinating that the female was up in the tree. How big do you think she was compared to him? He said he was by his feet. Yes, because she showed me his whole chest and body and showed me the pig. She was probably like, when she came up to sort of mumble something to him, she had to be like at least because he was bigger than she was. He was like at least another foot bigger.

and how I know how big they really were because I didn't get the guts to go back until like three months ago I went back to the same area and I pulled over because I looked it up

because every time you park the truck it's logged into the GPS you know where you are the coordinates and all of that I have it set up that way and I looked up the coordinates and I stopped in the same spot and I remember seeing the same

woods and I went into the area where I last seen them and I looked up at the tree where she was the tree was up and the branch that was broken that she was up like 20 feet up in the air man and jumped down like like it was nothing like they do it all the time and from the size of where his head was and the backdrop

he had to be all of eight feet monster huge and he you could i couldn't really see his ears i couldn't see his ears i saw his head but his ears were like hidden by hair he had he and he had like a nice manicured goat tea and he didn't have long hair you know like like like a mullet or nothing like that he had just short hair all the way down covering up to his forehead and around his eyes there was no hair around like a whole circle around his eyes and they were like sunken deep and he had a you can see it was bone and then around around his nose

there was and then when he opened up his mouth I was like oh my god look at the size of that thing and uh he had no hair around his like you know on his lips but everything else he had a moustache and he had he had a goatee and he had a full hair around his his cheeks and the hair on his from his neck down to like the chest was longer. The hair was a little bit longer and he had a great patch coming down the side of his chest right here from his shoulder down. He had a great hair patch. And anyway, Wes, I've only told that one other person, man, and I've been afraid to tell my, even my wife. I'm glad, I'm really glad that you shared it.

It is a fascinating count. I hear a lot of them in Texas going after wild pigs. I mean, I've talked to many hunters who've seen them run down pigs. And I want to ask you, when you were looking at the face, did the face look more human-like? Or did it look more like a non-human primate, like a gorilla or a monkey or how would you describe that face? His body had a nose that looked like.

Like when you look at a Ramperrigi guy, He has that wide nose. Nada, nada. Didn't have a wrong bridge. It was wide nose, like sunken, like, like somebody punched him, you know? But it was that type of nose. And his skin, I won't forget his skin. His skin was like a leather gray.

And it was like grayish, like wrinklish leather. Gray leather. That's what it looked like to me. And his teeth were like blocked. like ours. His teeth were like square. He had fangs. He had a canine teeth, but they were like ours.

Like not that big, like a dog or nothing. He had the canines, but like maybe the same size as ours, but in his size. And his tongue was pink. When he opened that big mouth, I saw that tongue. He had a pink tongue. And the sound he made, Wes, oh my God, it was like an amplifier hitting me. Like, like. And Wes, I haven't told you this.

Oh, that same night, when I would try to go to sleep, I couldn't go to sleep because I was sick. I felt like, I felt weird. I felt anxious. I felt like something was like pulling my guts, like somebody was poor easy feeling. And I couldn't sleep. I could not sleep at all. And I was like that for almost two days where I lost sleep and I just felt sick. Not nauseous, not something that would make me puke, but just like a weird sick hurting me.

And my knees were weak. Like my knees were like weak. Like I could walk me, you know? And I started saying, what the hell just happened to me? And then later on, you know, and I listened to some of the accounts on your show. And I guess I got hit with that thing because when that monster screamed at me, and I don't even want to call him a monster because I don't even want to call him a monster because I think he was pretty cool with me.

He let me go. He could have killed me. He could have easily killed me, and she could have easily killed me. Because the way that these things moved so fast, when she took off to the woods, I was like, oh, my God. It was like a blur, like, chum! I said, holy, that thing could have grabbed me so fast and totally destroyed. It was nothing I could have done about it. Why do you think that they didn't harm you?

They were hunting, and she was up in the tree. signaling him and he was chasing when the sounds that I heard of the of the animals running the pigs running was him running the pigs around and she was sort of like guiding him when she was doing that rock she was saying now now there grab him or something like that you know so they were hunting and she was coordinating the hunt from the top of the tree as to that's for him to go to the exact spot where she was pointing and letting him know right there he is he's coming or something like that and uh they were hunting and then later on i figured that i might have become a challenger for him a rival for his meal and he wasn't having it when he screamed at me it was like this is

my meal and he showed me the pig the pig was about 200 pounds less this was a big he held it up like if you grabbed a a jug of water if he picked it up like nothing that's what I thought I said they were hunting and I happened to come across them that they hid the baby

and they hunted and then I came across them how she didn't hear me because I snuck up on the dog because they were preoccupied and there were maybe like like 30 30 40 maybe 40 50 feet 50 feet for me

you know, I'm not a good word with distance, you know. There was steam coming off his body. The steam that was coming off his big body was crazy, and the pig was steaming also. And he could, his breath, I could see his breath. Like, you know, when it's cold, when the cold air comes out of your breath, I can see that a lot, and I can hear his, in breathing, that type of breathing.

And she did the same thing. She was like, oh, and then she screamed at me too. You know, she screamed at me first. And I felt hers, but not like his. His was like, knock me backwards, that I almost stumbled and fell backwards when that happened. Thank God they didn't harm me, Armando. I mean, you're in a very... When he nodded at me, like when somebody goes, says,

and that's what he was nodding at. Like, get out of here. You know, and I realized that he let me go. Because he could, it was nothing. Yeah, no doubt. No doubt. What do you think that they are, Armando? What do you think that these creatures are?

I mean, you've got a good look at two of them. And the account's fascinating. There's a lot to unpack from the behavior. But what is your honest opinion as far as what you think these things are? I think that in time, the natives have been talking about forever, and people have been making fun into them, you know. I think it was Roosevelt who talked about them. And other famous people, you know, professional police officers

and hunters who have said, it's like a monkey, man, but I don't think they're there, I don't think it's a complete monkey. I think they're a hybrid being human that might not even be from Earth. That's what I figured that it might be a being that has been here so long,

placed on the planet and left here to survive the planet. I think our government is going to have to let us know the truth about these creatures, these beings, because they are beings. They communicate. They're all communicating. They weren't just, they were talking to each other.

And now that I've done my research and I look around, there's a lot of things going on. Like I remember back in the day, the $5 million man, the $5 million man fought Sasquatch. I remember that came out. And the Boggy Creek came out, I think a little bit before that. Boggy Creek movie. And then they made a couple of other things. Bigfoot movies. And then now you've got

Jack Links messing with Sasquatch. I think they're throwing little by little feeding the people to get you used to a Sasquatch. There's a lot of cartoon movies now that kids are watching A Son of Bigfoot.

There's like three or four movies that are out in the theaters right now about Sasquatch. And then you have Harry and the Handersons. You know, I think little by little. little, they're going to soon have to let us know that there is another being on the planet like us, you know.

Yeah, I tend to agree with you. Do you still stop and go pee in the woods like he used to, or did you kind of quit doing that? No, you know, you know something for months and months after that. He will not get in the truck. And it's my buddy. I'm like, come on, you come in with me. And he would just run away from the truck. He's like, uh-uh, uh-uh.

He remembers. because he's got better smelling than I do. But he does not, he would not get in the truck. For almost six months, my dog would not come with me, man. Until I finally, I finally got him little by little.

I took short little trips. And he would always jump on the window and look into the woods and keep looking around and looking around and looking at me. And looking around and looking at me. Like to say, you're not taking me back there again,

are you? You know, it's funny, but yeah, he wouldn't go I went to the truck, man. And I felt bad. I was like, I don't have another dog with me, my buddy with me.

But he finally got back in the truck. But now I would not stop and take a leak on the side of the way. Like when I went back to that area to take a look again, it was daytime. It was daytime. I would not go at night. It was daytime. And I looked around real quick. I went and I took a look and I researched and I said, oh, look at the height.

This, this, this, this, and that was about it. I got in my truck. I wasn't even there, not even 15, 20 minutes. I was gone. I looked around for footprints. But it was already later, you know. There's no footprints, man, and nothing else around. But I'm guessing the area where there's a lot of pigs and deer and all.

Yeah, it could be. It definitely could be. I get many accounts from Texas, many accounts from Texas. And it's the same type of behavior. You know, they're chasing hogs. I'm just surprised that you got out of there with your head on. because, you know, you got in between them and the food and then the female was there, the male was there. I mean, what an encounter? I mean, really, wouldn't encounter Armando. It's one of those things that you'll never forget.

I don't know if you were hit with infrasound or if it was fear in adrenaline dump, you know, where your legs are shaking and your body's just kind of reacting to that adrenaline dump or if it's actual infrasound. I don't know. But I find... I saw sick for almost... Like if you go down a roller coaster, like, I kept getting that feeling in my stomach, like trouble sleeping, you know, from the feeling that I had. Which is normal.

I think that's pretty normal to fill that way. You know, it's an amazing account, Armando. I really appreciate that you take the time to come on and share it. I know you haven't shared it with many people, and I know you're on the road. Please be safe while you're on the road. But thank you again for coming on.

man, you're actually letting people vent out like me. I've been wanting to tell somebody, and then I've been listening to when I'm on the road, I put on your show in the morning or at nighttime, you know, before I go to sleep with the music. At the end of the mute, oh, man, it puts me to sleep so nice. I like listening to your shows. What was I going to say? Oh, yeah. Every time I'm out there, man, I'm looking into the woods and I'm careful, you know.

I don't pull over on the side of the road like that while I'm about telling no more. But I've been wanting to tell somebody here because it's been driving me crazy. I think about it all the time. Especially, you know, when you're on the road, all you see is woods, especially at night. You know, when you see a little ice shine, I'm like, oh, Lord, keep going, keep going. Yeah, I don't blame you. I don't blame you. Well, keep me up to date.

Let me know if you have any other run-ins while you're out on the road. I know you're long haul, so let me know if anything else popped up out there, will you? Oh, my God. But I'm going so fast that I couldn't tell you if I saw another one or not. But this time when I pulled over there, that's going to live with me forever. And I wrote it down. I rolled down everything that I saw as much as I could recall. And I don't think I left anything out, man.

It was just... But, you know, I feel lucky, too, at the same time. And I got to see this being. I feel lucky that I'm one of the few who are cannot actually. actually say, I've seen them. And if the government ever says, you know, here they are. And they'll say, Armando, man, you were right. Holy cow, I'm sorry for seeking, not believing you.

But I haven't told too many people. Only one or two other people. And not even my wife, man. My wife is not a believer in that. Yeah, well, I'm honored that you come on here. Thank you again. Yeah, Wes. Thank you.

Thank you for actually, Wes. Keep up the good work, man. Thanks, Armando. And that's it for tonight, everyone. And remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. If you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Until next time, everyone.

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