Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:59 Bigfoot encounters call in 646-716-8791

Episode Date: November 6, 2014

Tonight we invite listeners to call in and share your encounter(s) or questions! We will be have a few guests on tonight that will be sharing their encounters stories with Sasquatch with everyone.

When I had come down this hill, I had seen this creature cross the road. It would have ripped my locked door from my truck, extracted me from my vehicle, and there wouldn't have been a damn thing I could have done about it. Look, this thing I got to notice in his eyes. His eyes was real, real evil, real sinister looking. You know, the look it was given me. What are you reporting? What's going on now, sir?

What's the son of a bitch is about 60. Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right here. Welcome to Sasquatch Cornucs. If you'd like to give us a call, phone number is 6. 646 716 8791 Again we're doing a live call-in show

And I know how the audience I know how I feel about that But I think this will be a good night What do you guys think? Willow and Shannon? Yeah Yeah, I think so If you want to call in

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One thing, I know we had a bunch of callers call in, and the first person I want to bring on is Lily. But before we do that, Will, I know you and I were talking earlier, and a listener had sent me a question, and I thought it was kind of a valid question. It was something I've thought about for a while. You know, a lot of times, especially after you've had an encounter, and I've heard people say this when I've been out with them and we're in different areas, people will make this odd comment that, well, to outsiders it might seem kind of odd. They'll say I don't really feel them in the area. For someone who's never had an encounter or to anyone that's listening,

that might sound like magical flute player, you know, some mystic response that they're having. but that's not really what it is. What he was asking was, why is it that people who've had encounters, or even people who are in the process of having encounters, why do they get that feeling that they're being watched or like there's a predator in the area, all of a sudden their senses get heightened and they become almost on full alert.

Before they've ever seen anything, before they've actually heard anything, all of a sudden you go on high alert. And you kind of had a theory on that, Will. Yeah, there's a couple of possibilities. One has to do with body mechanics, and by that I mean pheromones. And it's something that was talked about many years ago among scientists, and they sort of blew it off because there were some things going on, some commercial stuff and stuff that really clouded the issue,

so a lot of them didn't want to touch it. but as most people know, pheromones in the animal kingdom are very widespread among animals and insects, and usually they're used to trigger a sexual response from another member of their species, but there's also a fear response. And I believe that's used for,

and I'm not any expert on pheromones by any means, but from what I read, they talk about indicating dangers and things like that. So that's the physical part. And there's the psychological part, which could be, you know, as everyone knows you when you're awake, your conscious mind is working and paying attention to what's going on around you. But the way people are these days,

and since we've become so accustomed to sort of building our own world and being very comfortable in it, we don't really pay attention to the subconscious, which you're also active. but that part of us is our primal part and really pays attention to things around us, very subtle things, noises, smells, sights, things like that motion. So on one hand, you could have pheromones at work

detecting a possible threat or on the other hand you could be that subconscious mind picking out small cues that our conscious mind isn't aware of and alerting us to the presence of something nearby that could be a threat to us. And you might be right. You know, they always describe, you know, like that whole everything goes dead silent. Even the insects, everything goes dead silent.

When these things I've experienced that, and I've heard other people talk about that, to where everything gets quiet in the forest. I wonder if that's related to what you're saying. I kind of think so. I mean, I think, and a lot of times when a predator, most predators are in an area, all the animals that are around there will either signal an alarm, you know, like crows do. They're a notorious one for that, you know, going on. off if there's, say, a cougar or something in the area, or the animal life will get very quiet.

And it could be at that point when things get quiet. That's when we pay attention and really start taking note that, hey, there's something different, something's going on here that shouldn't be going on. I think as it's as it's, you know, stimulated as we are in our world today, we probably forget that we even have these primal instincts still, and I think that's a good point you made for all is we do still have them, and they kick in when they need to. Right.

Man, I can't wait to get over this cold, you guys. I'll apologize to everyone in advance if I start coughing in the mic. But gosh, I've been sick for like three weeks. I swear I can't get over this thing. But again, it's a call-in show. Anyone wants to call in? The number, again, at 646-7-16-8-7-9-1. And I know our call queue is, it looks like it's getting pretty full.

but we'll try to get to as many of you as we can. I wanted to bring Lily on the line. Lily had, I mean, this was a terrifying encounter, but I wanted to bring Lily on. How are you doing tonight? Doing good. I hope you feel very soon. Oh, I appreciate it.

I appreciate it. And thanks for coming on and thanks for sending us your encounter. Well, I usually do is I'll ask people what knowledge they had about the subject of Bigfoot prior to any encounter. But from what I understand, your encounter, you were pretty young, right? Yeah, I think I was like seven. I had no clue about it at all. Okay. Well, let's go back to that day and just tell us what you were doing and basically how long ago it was in roughly the area if you don't mind.

I actually don't remember what I was doing that day. I have no memory of it. I only have a memory of what happened, the incident itself. But it was back in 85, it would be. And it's the Rockies, just west of Wasabe, Sinaloa, and Mexico. And we used to, well, my dad and all my uncles used to go hunting there all the time. But we never went. Us kids never went.

That was the first time we went. Tell us what happened, as you recall it. The first memory I have is waking up because I felt a lot of jostling. And I woke up in the bed of my dad's pickup truck. And I noticed the blanket was over my head. So right away, my instinct was to push it down. And I noticed there was no blanket underneath. And I thought, well, this is really weird.

So the first thing I do, of course, is get up and try to look in the cabin to see what's going on because we weren't allowed to ride in the back of the truck ever. And that's when it registered that my mom's screaming in the front. And so I'd look over towards her, and she had just reached over to turn on the overhead light in the cabin. And then I could see her face, and she looked super white. and she's still screaming and she's hitting my dad telling him to go faster and at the same time telling him to be careful and I looked over to my dad to tell him you know what's going on I'm scared and just then he turned back to look at us and he saw me and he looked so scared just totally white and scared so that scared me and I was going to crawl back under

the cover. But I noticed movement behind the truck. And I looked behind us. And the first thing that came to my mind was that there's a bear chasing the truck. We used to, the zoo used to do specials where the people could go pet them in Mexico, the animal. So I had seen bears, and that's what I thought it was.

I thought it was like a grist. but this one was like totally, totally pitch black. So I kept looking at it. And then I realized that it wasn't keeping up with the truck. It was actually gaining on the truck. And my dad was going pretty fast. And I had just thought, there's no way that a bear could keep up. And I started to look at it, like really look at it.

And I noticed that it wasn't running on its paws. It was running on its knuckles. And it wasn't really looking up. I didn't see like a head shape. I just saw like legs. And they had four legs and a big black shape. When it finally, I did notice a head come up like it looked up and I saw red eyes. But I remembered my dad telling me that that happens because of the light.

That animal's eyes reflect the light. so I didn't panic too much. I just thought, what is that? You know, what am I looking at? And I noticed that the, it ran kind of not sideways, but kind of favoring, like, it's right side, like a little bit forward on the shoulder. And then it looked back down,

and then I looked up one more time, and then I didn't see it anymore, and I thought, oh, we must have lost it. I'm sorry, I'm just remembering I get, care. No problem. No problem. It was running kind of like a chimp or gorilla with it.

Is that what you're saying? I thought it was a bear because it was so big. And I had seen the chint at the zoo and I had had the chance to pet them. So I knew they weren't that big. I hadn't seen a gorilla, but I had seen bears. So that's what I thought it was. So what happened next? When it looked back down the second time, I didn't see it anymore.

So I thought, you know, it was gone. But then all of a sudden it just landed on the back of the truck, on the, you know, grabbing onto the tailgate. It was like on the back fender. Right. And it was so, you know, the weight of it landing was so bad that, you know, the tires, you know, the tires, you could hear the tires wanting to get out. And the truck lurched really bad. and my mom just started screaming, just screaming. And I got even more scared, and I was starting to thinking, what am I going to do?

Oh, my God, what am I going to do? And I was about to look over on my dad, but just then it reached out its arm. And that's when I realized it can't be an animal because it's grabbing on to the tailgate with its left hand. and just it reached out so far forward that it almost touched my face and I was leaning up against the back of the truck cabin and it almost touched my face but when it reached out it had its palm down and then it slowly turned it up to palm up

so I was able to see that the hand pretty good and its fingers were like curled in, not all the way, but it's pretty curled in. So if it had stretched out its hand, it would have grabbed me easy. Do you think it was trying to grab you? I didn't get the impression that I was trying to grab me. I got the impression that it wanted me to take its hands. That's what I thought.

It looked at me like the eyes looked really big and round. They still look red. but I got the impression that it was just like really curious. Like that's the impression I got. I wasn't afraid of it like I should have been. I mean, thinking back, I'm like terrified. But at that time, I wasn't scared. I was just thinking, you know, what is this?

What am I looking at? And, but I got to notice the hands really well. Since then, I've seen guerrillas. hands. And it looked a lot like that, except, I don't know how to describe it. The fingers are like longer, the joints are longer somehow. But the skin is the same. It's that leathery.

This one was like all black. I could, I never did see the face. But I did see the hand. It was that leathery wrinkled leather look. Right. but it had, like, the skin went all around over the edge of the hand, and the fingers were all the skin. There was no fur on the fingers themselves,

but there was fur on the back of the hand, and then it just went up from what I could see of the arm. It just was all furry. But it was, it was, the only thing I can describe is that it's like a double coat, I guess. Yeah. Because it was like super thick, like the good inch was super thick fur. And then the inch past that was just thinner fur, but longer than the first coat.

I don't know if I'm making any sense. Yeah, you are. And then on the skin itself, it was, I didn't see dirt on it. But it had like, you know when dirt gets so kicked on that it looks like scabs? That's what it looks like. It had like chunks of dirt that was so deep that it looked like it had scabs all over the hand. And then the nails, I don't know if they were long or short because I couldn't really see the nail. So the only reason I saw it was that when it turned its hand from palm down to palm up,

I could see the gloss of the nails from the light. It was a glossy, clear nails. But I couldn't really, I can't say that I saw the length of the nails because that's all I saw was the gloss over the tips of the fingers. That's all I saw the nails. Probably not something you're really focusing on at the moment either. No, I was, yeah, at that point I was starting to get really scared. I was going to look back up at it to see if I could see what it was.

But suddenly my brother, who was laying next to me, he took down my arm. So I looked down at him, and he just looked white as a sheet. And I could tell that he wanted to tell me something, but he couldn't even speak. So then I looked back up at it because it made like a sound like a, not a hum, but it was like a, he had like a rumble to it, sound to it. So I can't really, I can't obviously unique it, but it made a sound. So I looked back up at it and just then the truck swerved really bad. I don't know if my dad sworeb the wheel or what, but it sworeb really bad.

And it, like, the hand that it had reached at me went back, like it was going to fall off the truck. but it went back like it clung on with his left hand and my mom's screaming again saying oh the devil's gonna take that the devil's that because that's what they always used to call us with child it's a or nina is what my mom used to call us which is girl and she's screaming and screaming and just then my sister who was next to me on my other side she's like, what's going on? What's going on? And she's trying to get the blanket off her head. And I looked down at her, and just then the thing had grabbed back on with both hands to the tailgate,

and she sees it. She just gets white as a sheet and covers herself back up. So I go back to looking at the thing to see what it's going to do. but just then I see my dad get his he managed to get his rifle out from his window and he shot at it and that made it let go completely

and then it just fell off the truck and I saw it rolling a few times and just as we went over the curve where I lost sight of them I saw another I don't know what that was but that one to me looks more like from the videos I've seen of what a big foot would look like.

Right. But it was, at the same time, it wasn't at all like it because that one was just really skinny. It wasn't muscular. It was just really tall, really hairy. And they had a brownish, reddish fur. Yeah, but really skinny, like really skinny. Even when as a kid I looked at it and I found, man, that thing is skinny. And then they just leaned down to check on the black one on the ground.

But that one, I never saw features on that one. Was this daytime or nighttime? No, it was nighttime. Okay. It was nighttime. I asked my dad about it later to ask him, you know, did this really happen? Did we experience that? And he didn't want to talk about it.

He got upset. And he's like, why did you have to bring that up? You know, I can't believe you remember that. And I said, well, I want to make sure I'm not crazy. So they didn't really happen. And he said, yeah. He goes, there was something on the truck. And I shot at it.

I think I shot it on the head, and that's the end of it. And I asked him, what were we doing there at night? You never let us ride on the back of the truck. And he said that we ended up going camping, that mom nagged them all day, and that we got there late. to sunset and he said when they were setting up camp they started hearing monkeys because he could see the trees moving so he started with something with weight but then he said it sounded more like monkeys and he said that when it when it got actually dark that they started seeing huge shapes

moving around the camp and they started throwing things at us and he said it took one scream and they just threw us in the back of the truck and took off. And he said that he thought that was the end of it, but then he realized they were chasing us. And I asked him how many they were, and he wouldn't say. He just said, I don't even want to remember this. But he said, yeah, that it really did happen. So when I was growing up, my mom always tried to tell us that,

no, that didn't happen. You just had a bad dream. You just had a bad dream. but once in a while she would mention oh yeah remember the night the devil almost took you I was like what it sounds like they knew a little bit more than they were ever willing to tell I think so

I discussed it with my sister that I emailed you the experience and she told me of an experience she had because we started to think the family has to have known more than they ever said because they just acted weird. Our great aunt had a house out in the woods.

She literally, her house was in the middle of a giant orchard with trees that would like 40 feet plus tall. And when we would go to her house, they would barricade that house shut before dark. I mean, they had, it would put shutters on the outside and the inside. And then they would put double bars on all the windows in the door. So I told my sister, you know, something went on. over there that they never said. And she remembered that in one occasion she had climbed a tree and she didn't want to come down

and that all my uncles were down at the bottom looking around. And my dad's begging her to come down. And she was like, no, no, I don't want to come down. And that my dad told her, you better come down or the Yorana will get you. And that she said, oh, the Yorona is not real. It's not real. and she said just then she heard this horrible horrible scream and she said it scared me so much I peed in the pants

and she said that's how scared I was and then I couldn't move I just froze so my uncle had to climb the tree get her and then they all ran inside and she said they didn't walk we ran we ran inside and she got scared just remembering the screen And she goes, and I remember that night with the truck. I remember waking up and seeing that black thing on the back of the truck.

Lily, what did your dad call it? He said, get out of the tree or what's going to get you? Zayorona. It's a Mexican thing. They tell the kids to scare us. You know, Zayorona? Oh, I got you. Kind of like saying the boogeyman.

I was going to say that that's kind of common among the Native American tribes as well. and it refers to these things oftentimes. I was just going to ask about your brother and sister when you're in the back of the truck. Were they older or younger than you? My brother's two years older than I am, and he remembers the incident because when I asked my dad, he was there,

and at first he tried to say, oh, that's stupid thing, that never happened. And I go, then why are you talking about it? And he tried to play it off. He doesn't want to take it seriously, but he does remember it. And my sister, well, she's my twin sister. And our younger brother was on the other side of her,

but he slept through the whole thing. He has no clue. That's an amazing account. I can't imagine being in the back of a truck at that age and having something on the back bumper reaching out at me. I think I would have had to change more than my underwear at that incident. But that's the thing. I didn't feel fear at that time.

I felt really calm. and both my brother and my sister told me that what scared them more they thought was that I looked so calm that I was just looking at it very calmly and I told him yeah I did feel calm I wasn't scared I only get scared now thinking back on it yeah Lily your story reminds me I remember when we had Brenda harrison and Brenda had told the story from the on the reservation that this family was going down a road and they were in a pickup truck, kind of how you described. And they had their kids in the back.

And as they were going down the road, one of these things came out and actually snatched one of the kids out and took off with it. It's just a young child. And the child was never found again. They could never find the child. They could never... And Brandeck goes into a lot of details about that story. But the story always kind of stuck with me.

And when you had sent the email about your encounter, I remember feeling, I mean, immediately I thought of that same encounter. It makes you kind of wonder what its intentions were. I guess if it wanted to grab you, it could have. Oh, yeah, totally. But it makes you wonder why it would chase the truck down, jump on the back of the truck, kind of reach out towards you. It had something in mind.

When you mentioned that it made a sound before your dad fired and it fell off the back of the truck, it made a sound. Do you remember getting the impression that it was trying to be a soothing, you know, was it a soothing sound or was it an aggressive sound? Yes, it definitely was. In fact, I almost reached out to grab his hand. I almost did it, but my brother was holding onto my arm. Otherwise, yeah, I would have totally reached out.

I wonder if you were seeing red, eye shine because of the lights in the back of the truck. Yeah, they were red. Because the one that came out afterwards, we were on a hill, and it was like a steep incline on our left side. And it came up from the dark, from the bottom, it came up to the road. And that one didn't have red eyes. That one had more of a, like a yellow glow, like a golden glow on the eyes. Yeah, that's going to be the different.

the different light sources. Well, Lily, we sure appreciate you coming on and we appreciate you sharing the story with us. I can't think you enough. It's one of the best encounter stories. I think I told you I was pretty excited to hear the story. I know when you live through it, it's not quite, you don't have those same feelings like it's exciting to tell it because you do kind of relive it as you tell it. But I sure appreciate you coming on. and sharing it with everyone.

No, thank you. You know, it's thanks to your shows, but I now know what it was, so I'm not as scared as I used to be thinking that it was the devil, like my mom said. I mean, as silly as it sounds, that's the only explanation I had until I started hearing your shows,

and then I thought, oh, my goodness, okay, this I can do it. Yeah, we appreciate you sharing it with us. Yeah, thank you, Lily. What an encounter, huh? Oh, awesome. You know, you listen to all the different elements and how many times we've heard all those same elements and other stories.

And I always say that, but I can never get over it in the consistency. And, you know, there's something that it struck me when she was talking about, you know, and Shannon, you brought this up about the kind of sound it was making. I was thinking, well, that could be taken two different ways. You know, and I know a lot of listeners might think, oh, it was reaching out to the little girl trying to be friendly. But, you know, when you're getting ready to chop a chicken's head off for a meal, you know, you're going, come here, chickie, chicky.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Maybe it was sort of like. You're trying to comfort it. Trying to comfort it and come here. And then, you know, you're snatched up and gone. I mean, that's two different ways to view that.

And you know with the native tribes also, again, you know, they were called man-eaters, cannibals, and they were known to take children. Yeah. Well, the parents call it a devil right off the bat, you know. Right. And, you know, that's something we don't get to hear almost ever is accounts coming from Mexico. There are things from South America, Central America, and of course North America, but we don't hear things out of Mexico. And there are. There have to be. I know the call queue is really filling up. So if you called in tonight, we appreciate it. I will try to get to all of these calls.

We're getting slammed with calls. We might have to impose a time limit for each caller, though. Yeah, to try and get through some of these. I know we were going to bring Beth on next, and then I'll tell you what, I'll go through and take some of these calls. But I go ahead and bring Beth on so she can give us an update and tell us what happened down there. Texas. Hey, Beth, how are you tonight?

Hey, Wes. Hey, show's going good tonight so far. Lily was great. What a scary thing for a child to have to go through. Yeah, it is. Her dad must have been a hell of a shot, turn around and popping off the shot. You know, that's what I would have done. I guess we'll let you take it away and tell us you had an encounter recently. Is that correct? Oh, yes, it is. I recently went on a trip to Louisiana and with the state with the Mike Will and his wife and we he had tons of Bigfoot stuff plan for us to go do and go see and to Houston and met Bob Garrett and that

was that was just really something I really in general you know just it just really thrilled me to be able to go to go meet him and we did that first place we went was we visited the torn. That's on into the Sam Houston National Forest and it was just really something to be there. I've never in my life been to a place

I guess the word for it for me was creepy. It was just a feeling that I had while we were there and you know people talk about feeling it wasn't the hype about being there it was just a feeling

that I had. We walked back And we hiked back in there, Mike and his wife, Jackie, and Wiggins was with. And so we looked around there for a little while, and it was really a kind of a somber place. All kinds of signs of them everywhere, just on the roads. In there, we would see just every so many feet, you know, just in spots, every so many feet, there would be tree limbs laying in the middle of the middle of the. the roads because it's real remote back in there. And the roads are dirt and lots, lots of broken branches and just really something,

it was really something to be there and see that. As we were coming in, I was in the truck with Bob and Travis was driving us, and Bob was showing, showing me things pointing out. You know, we found tracks in this area, found one particular place. He was talking about a place where they had had had. some tracks. I looked where he was pointing, I looked up and looked out where he was pointing and about 75 yards out. I see one standing there. And the sun, it was a beautiful day. And the sun was coming down through the trees and hitting it just, just as perfect as it

could be. I couldn't believe it. I was really just stuck. We were driving, you know, we were riding through the area. And I saw it. And, you know, oh, my God, did I really just see that? Did I really see that? You know, back again to that feeling, oh, did I really see that, you know. I think I just saw one, Bob, because I was kind of in shock, you know. And Travis looked, he looked in the rearview mirror, and Gary Wiggins was in the vehicle behind us.

And Mike and Jackie were in their vehicle behind Gary. Well, Gary had... So we go up a little ways and did you stop back there for? Did you see something? Yes, I did, you know. So it's just amazing, you know. We went out to a few places in Louisiana to where he had his encounter. And here it's real flat.

The undergrowth is a lot different down there than it is here in Tennessee. We have a lot of pine vines. Down there, they have just a lot of small branch, you know, it's real. Sherman's, he's on the line. He wanted to say hi to Beth. I guess he was out there with you guys. Hey, Tim. Oh, yes, he was.

He was. I met him. Hey, Beth. How, Tim? I really am glad I got to meet you down there, and I'm glad you got to go out with Bob. I actually did not go with them. I had an interview. I had a job interview.

Yeah, so I had to go to that. Missed it. But just to give some validation, we went out the next day and had an encounter. So Texas is basically more than what everybody thinks. And I think Beth is trying to say that. Yeah. Because she came down here and basically here one day and there you go.

But she's with the master, right? That's right. there was a feeling down there that I didn't have with the other locations that I went to in Louisiana. It was just a feeling that I had. And Mike concurred with that. You know, he said he had that feeling too, that they were there. And it was just, I don't know, you kind of touched on that earlier, Will, about that. Why people get feelings about them being around.

It was definitely, definitely had that. that feeling while I was there, which I didn't have in the other locations. We appreciate you coming on, and we appreciate it, Beth. Thanks for sharing your encounter, and I want to thank you for coming on the show. Not a problem, man. Thanks for having me back. I really appreciate it. Oh, anytime.

When I go back, if I have anything happen, I'll give you an update. Oh, please do. And thanks, Tim. Appreciate you calling in. Sorry, guys. I was jumping away. answering calls. I feel like I'm in, like running a call center here.

We thought maybe you had a, thought maybe you had a coughing fit again there. No, no. You're worried about this. I was jumping around answering calls and I wanted to, Lupe wanted, I wanted to bring Lupe on, Lupé Mendoza. He wanted, real quick, he wanted to, you know, the term that Lily's dad was using for the Sasquatch.

Right. he wanted to So I'll bring him on real quick Then we'll jump into some more encounters here Hey you know we're talking about She was talking about what's the name, Lily? Yeah, yeah We're talking about

Yerona You see it is It is a Just another story You know I've heard it Because I was a kid from my mom My grandparents

You know It's a Mexican Native American legend You know I mean they've seen her They believe it's true You know Whether it is

supposedly a woman that drowned her kids in the river and she screams and hollers looking for her kids and supposedly she sees a kid to drag them down there and drown them

you know thinking it's one of her kids or something you know but you know I've heard story that you know that women were like race

and tossed them to the river by you know in our area that were they now Our town is growing up a lot. And, you know, back in the days, we were all wooded, you know. But now we've got freeways and homes everywhere. But, you know, it is part of our culture and our folklore, you know.

And yes, there's a lot of stories that I know from people out of Mexico about Southwatches, you know. Yeah, Mexico just have Southwark stories. Yeah, I knew there had to be plenty of stories down there. You know, the stories are there, you know. And I'm pretty sure. I mean, I know there's a lot of stories all the way down South America, you know, and so hopefully next year I'm going to meet Chiquetu next year, my Chiquetu, and, you know, because I've heard a lot of stories,

so that's going to be one of my stops next year. I've been waiting for a lifetime for this one, so. Yeah. It took a lot of savings, but I'm going. Yeah, I just wanted to tell you about that, you know, about the Yadona. You know, there's a couple other proposals that we have, you know, like that, the Chusah and stuff like that, you know. So anytime I want to hear in the stories

Let me know That's very interesting Yeah So anyway Yeah take care you Have a good night You know God bless Thank you too Lepe

All right Same to you buddy All right you too Amigo Bye bye Lupe's a great guy He's one of the best people out there Yeah

Very nice man Yeah thanks for calling in Lupe Mike from Washington State How are you tonight Hey good Good good Hey, I know you had a lot of things going on on your property. I know you had some fruit that was coming up missing,

and you heard some vocalizations in the area. I know you had said they kind of sounded like a Vulcan, like on Star Trek talking. But I was wondering if you kind of tell us a little bit about what's going on on the property and tell us the things you've heard and seen. Yeah, I'm actually in North Washington, I see Livingston Mountain in my backyard. And, you know, I got to be careful because I could take up your whole show on what's going on here.

We don't have it like the Browns. It's every once in a while. But, you know, I don't even know where to start. The other day I was sitting out on my deck, and it was about five, maybe six, it wasn't dark yet. It was just getting dust. and I got 40 acres next to me that belongs to somebody I know and there's nothing there. There's no houses. There's a road right next to my property and that's it.

And I'm sitting there on the internet just kind of dinking around and I hear, I swear, it was clear as day. I heard like, fuck, pop. only it was it was seriously gutteral and then I heard a huge limb just crash

and then I heard like it was just tearing it to pieces and then I didn't tell you this before but I remembered it now I was listening for a while and I went and got my handgun I thought what am I got trespassers

I mean not that I'd shoot them but I was listening and I could hear talking, but you couldn't make out what it was saying, whatever it was. And I thought, well, okay, maybe the guys over there working on the property, but I didn't see him go by, and he's only there like a couple times a year. So anyway, I ended up going inside. I said, I'm not going to deal with this. And I went inside and it was the next day before I finally felt comfortable letting my dogs outside.

And, I mean, I let them out to go to the bathroom, but I mean, let them out to run. And it's a fenced yard. But anyway, there's that that happened. And then about 6 a.m. in the morning, this is about, I'm out on my front porch because that's where I get service at. But this is, I have an apple orchard, and I sent you pictures. the apple orchard is just outside my gate and kind of a little east of, but anyway, we always park our cars outside the gate. And it's just easier.

And I walk out on the front porch, and there's no lights on, I just have a flashlight. And I heard this huge, I thought a tree came down. It was that crash, crunch, you know, and snap. And then I heard a dump, dump, you know, and I thought, What the heck? You know, I ran inside. I was so freaked out. I grabbed my handgun.

I never carried, none of the carry permits. I never carried my guns with me. But I tactically went to my van and got in my van and started it up and turned the headlights on bright and unloaded my gun and put it away and left. But when I came home, I looked for a second and, okay, there's nothing there. So I parked my van. I went out, I got my, I got my, I was so freaked out. I got my 1911 and I got my rifle. And I went up and I started looking.

Couldn't find anything broken. But I found a footprint about the size of mine, my shoe, but it was boxy. It was bigger, wider, I mean. And you could see the toe prints, everything. You know, it was really, you know. It was really a bizarre looking footprint. And I found another one next to it. And the reason I didn't get such a good picture is when I took the picture,

I realized my back was to the woods. And I'm like, oh, no. So I just backed on out of there and left. And I think it was the next day. My wife went up there. And why I let her go up there, I don't know, but she went up there. And she found some feces that were. I'm guessing a

if I had to guess probably a couple inches in diameter I guess and they looked like people stuff only there was seeds and stuff in it and it was a light color and there was four of them in a row

and they're about probably I don't know six inches long I did send you a picture of it on on the Facebook but that was taken today and it's been rained on a few days So, you know, but I got a sample here. And I was looking at it. When I got the sample, it smelled like apples.

And I thought, is there any way a deer could do that? You know, could lay like four or five of them in a row. No, not like that. But this is bizarre. I mean, this is just, I've got about, I got about, I don't know, eight different things I could talk about that recently that's happened here. and in fact I'm out on my front porch I got every spotlight on I can and I've got my pistol at my side cocked and locked and you know it's it's I don't feel anything right now but I'm not taking a chance it's just there's too many bizarre things happening and usually it's spring and fall that I notice this stuff

yeah they move through those areas that particular area a couple times a year but what's weird is all my trees, they're 100-year-old trees. And obviously they've never been taken care of. They've always had lots of fruit everywhere. Well, I'd never noticed before, but I'd say about 12 feet up or so, everything's gone. From the ground up to that level. Yeah. And in fact...

I've seen that over in Carson, that area. Yeah. And, you know, it just dawned on me, you know, that wait a minute. You know, I'm looking up at it. We've actually had something. I think I talked to somebody on the show once before. We moved out here in 70. And I think it was about 72.

We had something come up to the house. And it was about, it looked like this out, but it was about 10 o'clock at night. And I'm upstairs leaning in my bed watching. TV and my head is right against the wall where the fireplace was put in. And we felt something. I thought of Matt truck backed into the house. It hit the house so hard that my head hit the wall and I run downstairs and my mom is, my dad's gone at a meeting somewhere and my mom's sitting in the corner right next to the fireplace and

she was so scared. She couldn't even talk. And I said, what's going on? And I don't know. So I grabbed a couple of flashlights and ran outside thinking, hey, maybe somebody came over and they just hit the house. That's what it sounded like. It'd be quite a struggle, but they hit the house, you know. And I'm walking outside, looking all over, and there's nothing.

And it's dry out. No footprints, no chival. tracks, no car tracks. And I'm like, and plus there's a big, huge 100-year-old holly tree in the way. How would they get through there? All this stuff's going through my head. And so what I do is I grab my dad's 357 and she goes, why don't you go check up by the road? Maybe there was a car crash or explosion and something.

I mean, we're looking at, we don't think a big foot. We're looking at logical stuff. So, you know, 12, I think I was 12 or 13 or something, and I grabbed two flashlights and I walk up my driveway and it's like an eighth of a mile long and it makes a sharp right turn and up to the road. And off to, I'm not sharp turn. If you kept going straight, you hit a logging road that goes way off into the woods. So I go to the road, nothing. I come back and I'm not, you know, I never was one to go. go, ooh, you know, there's something watching me.

Because we've been raised in the woods. We went hunting our whole lives, and, you know, we just didn't think of that stuff. And as soon as I hit the corner where the logging road was, I mean, I swear something was about to pounce on me. And here I am, like, 13 years old or something, and I was like, I don't know, I was totally tactical. And I just, I had the flashlight under my arm, the second one, within, like, you know, a tenth of a second I had that gun

drawn and turned around and cocked it pointed like you know there is something there and I never saw anything I think my feet touched gravel three times by the time I got to the house and you're never supposed to run

and I know that but it just kicked in I was just like no and I ran I got to the house my mom she saw me and I was white And I said, I'm going back out there. And I don't know what's out there.

Well, we may have to have you on when we have more time, Mike. Yeah, I've got a lot to tell us. You do. And I was just going to say that, that I could go on forever of what's going on here. I'll give you a call offline, Mike, and you and I can talk because I'd like to, I told you earlier, I'd like to come out and see what's going on out there. But we appreciate you. Yeah, man.

We appreciate you coming on and sharing some of the encounters and what's going on out there. Oh, anytime. Anytime. And by the way, I don't know what I would have done with that first caller. I don't know that sounds, that was something else. That's above and beyond the underwear changing moment. Yeah. And I would still be cleaning them.

Yeah. All right. Well, hey, thanks for having me on. Hey, thanks, Mike. Thanks, Mike. All right. I'm going to jump to Ralph. Ralph had an encounter when he was in high school. Hey, Ralph.

How are you? I'm doing good. How are you guys doing? Hey, good. Appreciate you calling in. Appreciate you wanting to share your encounters. I'll let it will take it away and tell us what happened. Tell us how long ago did this event take place? Yeah, been in the Navy now.

for 10 years. So it was about 12 years ago. I was a senior in high school. Okay. And what did you know about the subject to Bigfoot prior to that? Up until that point, you know, you hear stories I've seen. I remember seeing the Patterson film, but at the time, I didn't know anything about Bigfoot or Saskwots or anything.

Okay. And what part of the country did this happen in? This happened in Wisconsin, northwestern. Wisconsin. Take us back to that day and tell us what you were doing prior to the event happening. Well, I was with a friend and where we're from, you can go out and, you know, shine the fields before deer season to see where to, you know, where the big bucks are and all that kind of stuff.

So I was with a friend and we went to pick our girlfriends up from basketball practice, whatever, and we're going out to shine the fields. well he knew this place that had a he had to go through a wood go through the wooded area to get to this great big field and my girlfriend and myself we were in the back of the truck

standing up in the bed of it and then he was up front with his girlfriend and we were going through and deer they you know their eyes are somewhat like I don't know peelish or green or whatever well, we were going through and right outside the reach of the spotlight

we could see that there was something falling up or going just the speed of what the truck was. We weren't going fast, maybe about five miles an hour tops going through this road. But this thing was following us and every time we stopped, it was stopping and looked at it

so these two eyes kept looking at us. And they were like an orangish color, orange or red. so we were going through but we're this road connected and started getting scared because everybody was asking me, you know what is it? I didn't know. I thought it was maybe the

farmer's lights from the next farm over but when I kept getting close I started making out but I didn't tell anybody about it but I could start seeing a body shape from the lights from the farmer's field coming through. You could see it and I knew that this wasn't no person out of your place.

whatever. So I got scared. I told my girlfriend to crawl into the small window in the back, and I just kept the light on it because when I turned the light off, you could hear it walking towards us. And I tried turning it back on, but whatever it was, it just seemed like it was hiding behind the big oak tree that was there, but you could hear it coming closer.

Well, this road, it would bend up towards where this thing would be, here to turn before you get out into the open field. So I told my friend, I was like, you know what? I think you got to hit the gas a little bit, because I don't know what this thing is, and it feels like it's stopping us. So he,

you know, at first he started laughing, he's like, if somebody else, they're messing with us, I don't think so. This is where I started getting scared because I was in the back of the truck. You know, I was open to the element. And you can hear this thing just keep creeping for it

every time I turn the spotlight off but as long as I kept that spotlight on it was frozen so we get up there into the field and we drive out there we'd herd of deer out there and the strangest thing right now I'm telling you this is because

I got hair standing up but the deer they were frozen and they weren't scared of our truck coming out there they were looking in the woods and we sat there and this thing started making noise

and it sounded like it was throwing things but I tell you what I never heard anything like that those gears sat right there and we were 20 yards away from them to tell you to count I don't remember so we sat out there

for about 15 minutes before our girlfriends got scared and they wanted to leave so we left but we drove across the few got on the road and we called it a night I want to say it was like three days later, I went back out there by myself because I wanted to know what the heck was going on.

And so I started walking around through the woods. I couldn't see nothing. I started tracking and I came out to the field and the owner of the field was there. And he asked me what I was doing on his property. I just told him about our night. He started laughing and he goes, well, it's best that you leave it alone because it doesn't like people. and that was the extent of my and ever since then

I took the interest into the subject to me it's all like this farmer knew that this thing was on his property and I never went back out there and just the four of us had this encounter every time we get together now

we laugh about it but it still bothered me and then I took interest into the subject so that's the extent of it of what I found your guys' program online and I just I listen to it as much as I can now. Did you tell anybody else at the time besides

outside of your friends there? Well, I told my uncle's, my younger uncle, he just laughed at me. You know, some kid was out there playing with you guys. But my older uncle, you know, he related some stories about that area. That's the reason why we don't go hunting out there and, you know, stuff like that.

but other than that, that was it. When I first joined the Navy, I told the guy, but he was from Washington, and he told me some stories about a lake that he was at in Washington. Yeah, it's interesting how many people out there have accounts that they know about themselves or know somebody that's seen something, and they won't talk about it unless you talk to somebody else has had a similar experience. Yeah, I mean, I've been in the Navy for 10 years. You know, when you're standing watch at midnight, you know, this is a, it's a good topic you bring up.

One time another guy told me a story, I tell you what, it's been with me, I'd have soiled myself the story that he told me. You know, I'll tell him any day over so many stories that you guys tell, and I'm just like, yeah, I'll take this one. Because whatever it was, as long as I kept that spotlight on, it didn't come, it didn't move, or it didn't. and approach us, but once I turn that light off, you know, it felt brave enough to where it, you'd start walking towards it. Yeah, when you mentioned that you knew it wasn't a man out there, can you describe a little bit more about what you saw and how you just knew it wasn't just somebody out there messing with you?

Well, when I first shined it, you know, when you're shining, I don't know if you guys ever shined for deer or not. You know, deer aren't that tall. And when I put the light on it, this thing was, you know, well, I was in the truck, So I was about maybe 10 feet tall. And where I had the light on, this thing had to have been about six foot, six and a half feet tall. That's what I estimated it at. So that's why I knew those eyes, when they started following us, I was like, this is no animal that's on a tree branch or anything like that.

But once I first caught eye up, I believe it was a shoulder or, you know, something. And if you, because it was like when the wind picked up and you could actually see it move, like the wind was going the opposite way than what it was going. That's where I knew that. That wasn't, that was no regular animal and it was no person because first of all, the person wouldn't be illiter because some people, I mean, we were in high school, you know, some people coach like that and that's how they do that night. It's poaching. So, you know, you take a, you're taking a lot of risk in. kind of walk around out there, mess with some kids if they're out there poaching. Can you estimate about how far it was from you?

It was about 200 yards, I'd have to say it, at the furthest point when we got out in the field. But when at the closest, it was pretty close. I'd have to say about 50 yards because I could hear it walking. Yeah. You know, when I turned that light off, turn it back on, it was within 50 yards of us. Because you could hear it walking. It was dead chiling out there at night. but I tell you what, this thing was one light walker or anything like that.

It was actually pretty frightening after I went back out there. I shouldn't even went back over there, but when you're 18 years old, you know, nothing's going to stop you. I didn't even have a weapon or anything like that. You're always willing to go back and poke the bear again, you know. Exactly. You know, I went back off here. I wasn't back off here by myself.

I parked that par on the road and I walked that road in. And where the first part where I thought I'd seen him, I walked into the woods, you know, and then I walked that trail all the way out to the field, and that's where I ran into the farmer, and he asked me what I was doing on his property, and I told him, and so he knew that there was something out there, because he laughed and said, it's this best he lived alone, because it doesn't like to be bothered with. So I was thinking maybe the light, you know, made it mad, and he was coming at us.

I don't know. I really can't answer that, but the deer knew that it was there, and the deer weren't scared of us. I mean, our truck is on the middle of that field, and those deer were right there. Now, what about your girlfriend? At the time, when I first turned the light off, you know, you could hear it walking, she's like, what is that? Is that a deer? Yes, that's a deer, but in my heart, I knew that.

I knew that that thing wasn't a deer because, you mean, that's what freaked me out was. You could actually hear this thing walking gorgeous. And it wasn't like it was stepping on logs or anything like that. It was straight just leaves and you could hear it. Yeah, it's kind of interesting. The farmer's reaction to you saying, you know, what you saw and then his reaction to you was, well, just leave it alone. They don't like human contact. Just leave it be.

It makes you wonder what he's seen out there, you know. Exactly. But the way he made it sound was it was one. It was just one. He doesn't, you know, that forever. rattled in my brain was he doesn't like to be bothered so don't bother it yeah and you know I told my mom this like five years later you know she would have been she told me if I would have told her earlier she'd never let me go in a wood again but her boyfriend at the

time he worked at an apple orchard that was maybe 10 miles away from there and he told her a story that he came over one early morning with his tractor. He came over and he's seen something big run into his orchard and into the woods that was rare. So, you know, 10 miles, I don't know how parties think you can travel, but the way that thing was walking out, like 10 miles is a walk around the block. Well, we appreciate it, Ralph. We appreciate you coming on.

I appreciate it. You guys having me on and finally sharing with some people that know a little bit more than anybody else I could share this story with. Well, we sure appreciate it, Ralph. Yes. All right. Yeah, thank you.

Hey, thanks for listening. Thanks for serving. Appreciate it. Oh, it's an honor. Thank you guys. Yeah, these, I feel bad like shotgunning all these calls. You know, it's a lot of times

people ask me why I'm not, it's kind of a funny question. I get it a lot. Why I don't like to do call-in shows? You know what I think a lot of people understand is behind the scenes. I'm running through and doing call screening while you guys

are talking. I know that when Beth was on, I don't know if you guys, if I was just gone, if I was in my A and you guys didn't hear me, but I was going through trying to take calls. But you know, it's nice to do these every once in a while. It's nice to get so much reaction from people

who want to come on. I don't think that would normally get. You know what I mean? It's nice for them for listeners to be able to come on and talk about things that they've seen and experience out there. Yeah. I know.

Let's, I'll tell you what, let's go to, I was kind of hoping to wrap the show up in about 15 minutes, but we might go a little bit longer. Let's go to Gary. Let's see if, Gary, did you have a question or did you have an encounter? Yeah, I, about 1977. the girlfriend and I, I had a little pop-up, Montgomery Ward pop-up camper. We're going to do a little, what would you call wilderness camping, if you can call it that. They're in the Sam Houston National Forest right on the edge of Lake Conroe.

And my experience was kind of frightening. It was, we pulled in there right as the sun was going down. I had a Jeep, and we put it. the camper back, oh, I guess a quarter, half mile back into the woods. I had a little clearing. It kind of overlooked the lake there. And I really didn't know anything about, you know, Sasquatch or Bigfoot or whatever. I'd seen the legend of Boggy Creek back in the 70s.

But, you know, that was something that was always somewhere else. Anyway, we setting up camp, the sun had gone down, and then I had a couple lanterns, battery-powered lanterns out, and I was pumping up a Coleman lantern, getting ready to light hit. There was a nice little clearing. It overlooked the lake. The moon had come up and illuminated the lake, and, you know, once your eyes got adjusted,

you can kind of see into the forest a little bit. And we hadn't started a fire yet. We'd gather some firewood, and it was one of those situations where, like you had talked about earlier, we had heard, you know, the woods is always, like, really noisy or busy if you're familiar with the woods at night. There's always something going on, and especially if you're near water, you know, there's frogs and things like that. And all of a sudden, everything just went deathly silent. And I looked at my girlfriend, and she looked at me, and I said, what's that, you know?

and all of a sudden I heard a terrific crash and then another crash and a bang and a crash and it was coming from the direction of the deep woods and, you know, I turned and looked that direction and then I started hearing a kind of a cactus and then a growl and then this thing, it sounded like it was like a steamroller. It was coming through the woods and you could literally, you look up

toward the top of the trees where the moonlight had the new day of the top of trees. It's almost like the grass was being parted. You know, this thing seemed to be coming through the woods toward us at a pretty fast rate. And my girlfriend, who were still friends even today, she told me that she always felt safe with me, but when she saw a fear in my eyes, she was terrified. I just looked at her and I said, you know, we got to go. We've got to get out here now. We just grabbed everything up, and the camper had these doors on the side of it.

It folded down. It had a storage area. We just threw everything. I don't even think I turned the lanterns off. You know, we just threw everything in there. Luckily, the camper was still hooked to the Jeep, and it was pointed out. And we just piled in, and we took it off. I drove out of there as fast as I could, and I didn't slow down until I hit pavement.

But that was still. That was my little encounter back in 1977. I've grown up in the area. I've spent a lot of times in the San Eastern National Falls, but that kind of broke me in nighttime camping. I just can't do it anymore. I've lost the nerve. And, of course, the other day, Beth came down,

and I've known Tim and Bob and the rest of the guys for a little while, old Loopy and unfortunately Loopy wasn't able to pretend but anyway we had a nice little meal there at a local restaurant and New Waverly and then we went out to the tour of camp and we were very fortunate because on the way out you know sure enough there was there was a squatch made an appearance up on kind of a ridge way back in the woods and they got a better view because they were a little the feather up. They got a better view than I did. It was more like a shadow or a movement than you could see it going through the trees. When I was looking over there that I'd come to stop. But the Sam Euston National Forest and Long Star Trail has a bad reputation because there's

quite few people that have come up missing over the last years in that area. And they still hadn't found him to this day, you know. So I know that was something that I saw when I was in there. They had a kind of a poster up on a tree at an intersection of two roads. They were back in the forest when Beth and I went back in there. And sure enough, there's a picture of a boy. They hadn't found him yet. You know, he went back in there, I think, on the canton trip by himself, which was a bad deal. and found any evidence of them. Yeah.

Yeah, I know we've heard that about that area, that whole area out there. A lot of people come up missing in that area. And, you know, Gary, I can't think you enough for coming on. Can't thank you enough for listening and sharing your story with us. I know you didn't have much time, and I didn't know if I was on to get on or not. But I enjoy the show. It's very interesting, especially the young lady he had earlier. I've never heard any experiences like that, especially if we come out of Mexico.

But I'm telling you down there. Yeah, I know, absolutely. Well, thank you so much for coming on. We appreciate it. Okay. Enjoy it. You type in there, Will? I was just a little bit.

Was it noisy? It sounds like you're hammering nails. No. Well, that's kind of the way I write, you know. Yeah. It's a heavy pen. It's a heavy load to bear. Now you know one takes me so long to, that's why it takes me so long to produce a book.

I only type with two fingers. That's why they're so good. They take the time. But, you know. That's what I envision you with your two index fingers, like a bird just typing away at that keyboard. Well, you're close. Not the next finger is the next one in. No, I'm just told that's all I can do.

No, no way. Tell them when you're producing gold, it takes time. That's right, I think. Yeah. Producing gold. You got to sense you get to see that stuff. Well, should we take a couple of questions from callers? Yeah.

Let's go with I feel like I'm doing bingo here Let's go with Bobby Bobby, did you have a question? Yep, I had a question for you guys From your experience out in the field Probably help some of the other viewers, too, when they're out in the field

See if they can see any signs I was just wondering what kind of signs We could watch for when we're out in the field I know personally I've seen Exes I have my own theories What those mean A shelter, limb twist

Scat I would have Associated with the bear Not a Bigfoot Back then I didn't associate anything with Bigfoot Just odd things that I've seen So I was just wondering What you guys

Had in mind or have seen Outfield or heard of That we could watch for And what you possibly think they mean Well, the two main ones are the brakes, and you have to know the difference between weather breaks and intentional breaks and the scat, of course, but, you know, I don't really know. I mean, I haven't made up my mind about a lot of these structures and things that people claim because, you know, there's just way too many variables at play, and I have never seen anything

I would consider that was created. I mean, I see pictures that people put up, and a lot of it looks natural to me. But I don't know. What do you think, Wes? Yeah, I'm kind of on the fence, too, with it. I mean, I've seen a lot of weird things like that out there as far as structures go that I can't really explain.

If you'd asked me a couple months ago, I probably would have just passed it off as nothing. But I've seen some of them. I think a lot of the structures that people are seeing, are man-made. There's a lot of them, though, I don't know that they're man-made. Or even that it's really natural. You know, what's creating it?

I don't know. As far as things to look for, you know, like Will says, the tree breaks. I look for a lot of the tree breaks. Try to find, and you hear this a lot, but you try to find areas where there's cover, water, food, plenty of shelter for the museum. Right, the reason. An animal would be in the area. Right.

The place where I hunt is trying for that. It has a natural spring. It has a bog. It has lots of deer. It has lots of berries. The area my dad saw one walking away like Patty version. I had an experience with Chatter, the samurai. And also on top, not at the top, but near the top of a hill,

there was a steering probably half the size of a football field. All around it, there were big trails coming into this. It was grassy. Towards one end of it, there were like four trails, big trails coming in. And there was a pine tree that had been snapped off about two feet up. I don't know if it was still attached to the tree or if it was just the base of it was still stuck up on the stump. But the front of it went to Boulder, probably 10, 15 feet away.

All the branches were stripped on the top on one side. and it had taking large chunks of bark and sticks that were broke, big sticks, that were broke, that would lean up against it. And there was opening in the front, and it was opening towards the back. And in my mind, I'm thinking this is not no, at that time, I was thinking, you know, why the heck is some kids up here building a floor on top of a mountain with no way to get in here and out of here? It's in the middle of nowhere. but listening to the show I've come to determine this was a shelter. It's stuck in my mind all these years, but I'm thinking this was not a sleeping shelter

because it was out in the open and it was right at the entrance to some trailheads. I'm thinking it was more like an ambush shelter. I've heard of any of those before. Yeah, I've seen some of those, and that's a first. First thing I thought of, too, is it might be something for ambush that they were creating. What I had seen was actually at the Browns, and it looked like something was creating, you know, again, I didn't see what created it, but it looked like something was creating small blinds to get closer and closer to the house, a little cover to hide behind as it came in on the house,

and it didn't hit me until I looked at it. I realized there's one after another, but they're within so many feet, and it looks like it's kind of getting closer and closer to the house is what it appeared. But as far as... Both are some trouble. Well, I don't... They haven't had any aggression out there to speak of, but it makes you wonder, makes you wonder if they are creating these things.

Why are they creating these things? What's your take, Will? Yeah, there'd have to be a real solid purpose. Everything I've seen are all these years, the Sasquatch does nothing that isn't really geared around survival. which is any animal in the wild. So you'd have to understand what's the purpose behind whatever it is you're looking at.

And if it doesn't have any survival-related purpose, then I'd be looking for a different answer for whatever it is you're finding. Okay, cool. And I have one last question for you. Sure. When I was on your show previously and gave my encounters, there was a couple that didn't make it on.

I'm probably too nervous to remember to tell you. but there was one particular that it was the samurai chatter, but it was different than what, any of the recordings that you play? And I was wondering if you heard any stories or heard it yourself like it. It sounded like the Tasmanian devil walking behind me, just walking across mumbling like he did when he was doing his spin or talking. It sounded like words for being said, but nothing intelligible. Nothing distinguishable, right?

Yes. Yeah, we get that actually quite a bit. Because the ones that we're playing the recording are these wild-sounding, chattery things. So it's so considered samurai? Oh, I have no idea. I mean, you know, they put that title to it, and I think that's just, you know, people's way best explaining what they hear. You know, that's the nearest thing that comes close to it.

Yeah. The Sasquatch makes a lot of different kinds of noises. Then you're talking all four different types, so we don't really know what's particular to one type as opposed to another and so on. Personally, what I've heard is what's been described like chimp noises.

Never heard. It really, I think, depends on the type for one thing. Okay, well, that's about all I had for you guys. Thanks for your input and output. Yeah, thank you. So you have a good night. You too.

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