Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:601 This thing was WHITE yes WHITE!!

Episode Date: November 17, 2019

Tonight we will speaking to three eyewitnesses. Mike from Virginia writes "Summer of 1989 a few friends and I "6 to be exact" decided to go to a very rural gravel backroad to party, drink etc. In my home state of Virginia. We all piled in my buddies Toyota 4wd pickup and headed out, it was a terribly hot and humid night, but very clear with a full moon. One of my friends was a female, who would sneak out to be with her boyfriend "One of my other friends with me". We arrived somewhere close to 11PM and began to drink, laugh, and kid around. We had the radio going, but not very loud at all. Out of nowhere we heard a HUGE CRASH, sounded just like something fell out of a tree "Looking back I'm convinced that's what it was" immediately after that we could hear VERY heavy footsteps. I've been in the woods all my life, and have heard about everything walking. This thing was different, it was MOST DEFINITELY walking on 2 legs. It circled us for what seemed like FOREVER roughly 50 to 75 yards deep in the treeline. The area is so thick I had a 1 million candlelight spotlight and it wouldn't penetrate the cover. It was making VERY unusual deep grunting/growling sounds. One thing I noticed looking back was there were NO usual forest sounds. No cicadas "Which flood Virginia" in the Summer. No frogs, no crickets, no whiperwills NOTHING. We tracked the sounds to about 150 to 200 yards behind us, all of a sudden this thing let loose a ROAR that I could NEVER even attempt to explain. We FELT IT from that distance, it scared us to DEATH. Immediately after the roar it stepped out of the treeline to give us our first glimpse. This thing was MASSIVE at least 8ft tall and 4ft wide. This thing was WHITE yes WHITE!! It climbed what looked to be a 30ft bank up to the road in about 3 steps. Immediately we scrambled to get in the truck, I was driving and floored the gas spinning gravel. It was on top of us in a matter of seconds, one of my buddies hit it with a 30 ton bottle Jack that was in the back of the truck and it just bounced off. It scared us so bad that 3 of us lost control of our bladders. The girl I mentioned earlier that snuck out, she had a nervous breakdown she was FRANTIC!! We had to take her home to her parents "Who had no idea she'd even left the house" and try to explain to them what had happened." We'll also be speaking to Dustin who had a strange encounter with his brother in Michigan. We'll close the show with Delbert from Colorado who had an encounter while fishing with friends.   Visit our website HERE for additional weekly shows and exclusive content.

Black thing go from left to right, and I thought, I'm going to die out here and no one's ever going to know. I couldn't believe what my eyeballs was showing me. I'll never forget how evil the eyes were. It was horrible. I mean, I've never seen nothing that evil. It ran towards me at a rate that I can't even explain, turned and stared at me. And this look of, I just want to kill you. I want to say it was human, but it wasn't.

He was yelling at me to grab a gun, grab a gun. I was like, for what? He said, just grab a gun. And there's footprints all the way to the door of my house. It had went inside my garage all the way to the door. 911, what are you reporting? Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about six foot, nine, I don't know.

Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right at him. Uh-oh. You're listening to Sasquatchew. Chronicles. Check us out online at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. If you've had an encounter, email me. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show, plan for you tonight. We're talking to Mike, and Mike actually comes to us from Virginia. And Mike had an encounter back in the late 80s. Him and a bunch of his friends were out parting in the woods,

and they came across this white creature, this white angry creature. And for many years, he didn't talk about it because he didn't think Bigfoot was white. But he'll be sharing his encounter tonight. We'll also be talking to Destin. Destin had a very strange encounter in Michigan with his brother. And I'll be playing some sounds kind of comparing it to what Destin heard while he was out camping. And then we'll wrap up with Delbert. Delbert comes to us from Colorado.

he was out fishing with a bunch of friends of his. And as he came around the bend, they saw this thing standing on the side of the road. A very fascinating account. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Let's actually jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Mike to the show.

Mike, thanks for coming on. Yeah, man, no problem. Yeah, I appreciate you being here, Mike. And I know your encounter took place in Virginia, and I think your email said 1989, wasn't it? Yes, it was 1989. I was 18. If you would kind of take us back to that moment,

what were you doing and walk us into what happened? Well, it was me and six friends, and we had decided to get to. to a real rural area, you know, at 18, parents aren't real cool with drinking. And, you know, they was wanting to drink. And I was a designated driver, so I didn't drink anything. But we went to a real rural area to gravel back road. It's real close to the White Oak Mountain Wildlife Management area here in Virginia.

And that's 3,000 acres. of game reserve. And, you know, we, it was a hot, real hot, but clear night. No clouds, full moon. We got there, you know, and everybody started doing that thing and drinking and joking and joking around. And I can't remember exactly how long we had been there. It wasn't long. I would say probably a half hour maybe.

And all of a sudden, we heard just a huge, huge crash. I mean, like something fell out of a tree. And it was, it was, you felt it thump. I mean, it was loud. And immediately after that, we started hearing, you know, footsteps and bipedal footsteps. I've been in the woods hunting and fishing all my life, and I've heard bear and deer and everything and man walking. At first we thought it was a man, I mean, we were in the middle of nowhere. It slowly kind of circled us, and it was making real odd sounds like a grunting, growling sound all at the same time. It sounded a little agitated.

I had a one million candle power spotlight, and I tried to get a spotlight down into where it was at, but the cover was so thick, it just, it wouldn't penetrate it at all. Well, this went on with, it seemed like forever. It probably wouldn't want in a couple minutes, but it just seemed like forever. It made it down to probably about, I would say about 150 yards down behind us, but, you know, still kind of deep. And then it, for just a minute to tell you, we're hurting, you know, nothing but it's moving. And then all of a sudden, it comes.

Cut least was, I call it a roar, but it was kind of a cross between a roar and a how. We could feel it. It was so loud. I mean, we could feel it in our bodies. And just about immediately after that, it stepped out into an opening. I hit it with the spotlight. And, oh, my, I mean, we lost it. we absolutely lost it

because this is nothing you're supposed to see I mean Sasquatch was a friend of this thing from my mind that night I was a skeptic I had been you know but it won't it was no denying

what was right there in front of us it was no denying it and we got some eyes shine off of it yellowish green it took about It was at the bottom of a bank that led up to the gravel road.

And it, in about three steps, it's about a 30-foot bank. And this thing covered that distance in about three steps, up the bank to the road. Well, when it made that move, we all lost it. We panicked. And we started, you know, fighting for position, piling in the truck. And it turned and came at us. And, man, this thing could move. I mean, it could move.

I heard a guy last night talking about that he didn't remember getting in a vehicle. I don't remember getting in the truck. I just remember cranking it and flowing a gas. And, you know, it was spinning gravel. And it chased us. It came into a truck. And a buddy of mine, well, you know, everybody that couldn't fitting the cab was in the back.

And the guy that owned the truck, he sets up mobile homes as his business. And it was a 30-ton bottle jack in the back of the truck that they used to jack these homes to set them on block to set them up. And one of my other friends that was in the back threw the jack at it. And it hit it. And, I mean, it just bounced off. I mean, no effect whatsoever. I mean, any regular man, that Jack, I mean, that would have been probably fatal.

But, you know, I floored it, and we got out of there. I don't know, the last thing I remember was seeing the torso in the rear view. That's all I could see. It was so tall. This thing was massive. I mean, it was every bit of eight feet tall, four feet, wide, I mean, huge. And it was white.

That wasn't a lot of the reason that I hadn't come forward in all these years because, I mean, I had done armchair research since it happened. And I spent a good seven years, a good seven years and complete denial after that. Once I got past the denial, I started doing some armchair research. and everything I was finding was, you know, brown or red or the occasional gray. I'd never heard anybody that had seen a white one. And that was a lot of the reason that it took me so long to come forward because, you know, if it was Sasquatch, why was it white?

And, you know, looking back, there was no normal forest sounds that night. I mean, Virginia is flooded with cicadas. in the summer and there was no cicadas there was no frogs crickets whipple wheels no no normal sounds you know all this and looking back and uh the only sound that was the radio and we didn't have that very loud at all uh we didn't want to yell over it but uh you know one thing that i i took from it was this thing absolutely for some reason another it did not want us there i don't know well why um i've asked myself that a thousand times yeah it's hard to say and white's actually pretty more common than you might think um i know at the time when you think at bigfoot you don't think of a white creature uh but white is a color that has seen uh more often than most people realize i'm kind of curious when you hit it with the spotlight um can you kind of describe what you saw It was weaving, left or right.

It was standing in one spot and weaving. Kind of just left to right, left to right, left to right, left to right. Not moving its legs, but just left to right, left to right, left to right. And that was probably, couldn't have been to more just a few seconds. But that's what it was doing when the light hit it. I don't know. when it made the run up to the road, you know, we just, we all lost it. I took a light off of it and naturally, you know, we panicked.

At that point, it was get out of there. Yeah, I don't blame you. Were you able to see the face? I realize all of this is happening relatively quickly in a matter of a few seconds, but were you able to see get any details or was it more or less just kind of a blur of you running, getting back in the truck? Yeah. I mean, the only thing that I could see was the brow ridge.

It was real, the eyes were real deep set inside of the brow ridge. And the eye shine, I will never forget the eye shine. It was a greenish yellow. As far as details, no, I couldn't draw it. But, you know, immediately when I made eye contact with it, I started trembling. I mean, it scared us so bad that three hours out of the group, lost controls of our blighter. I mean, and to be honest, the role of the how was probably just as scary as laying eyes on it. I've never heard nothing like that. Yeah, that's great. Not nothing that loud.

Yeah, when they vocalized, it definitely will put you on high alert. That is, I mean, it comes out, starts chasing the truck. I wonder if it was actually trying to get someone or if it, uh, kind of like when a cat chases a mouse, you know, a lot of times a cat won't actually catch a mouse, but it likes to kind of screw with it. Or if it was just trying to get you to go away. What was your impression of that night?

Really, I honestly think if it wanted anybody in the back of that truck, it could have got them. Because it got that close. I really think the charge was to get us out of there. If it's close enough for me to see the rear, the torso in the rear view, and it's close enough to as long as its arms were.

Its arms were massive. And the forearms, especially, I mean, Popeye comes to mind, of lack of a better term. I really deep down think if it had wanted somebody in the back of that truck, you know,

it would have got them. And we had one female with us. She used to sneak out to be with my other buddy, you know, her boyfriend, and she was with us and it she had a nervous breakdown I mean she lost it and we had to take her home

she had snuck out her parents hadn't even known she had left the house and we had to take her home and try to explain to them what had happened and they just looked at us like we was crazy

but I'll never forget it as long as I live it was I'm battling PTSD from it, severe anxiety. I don't go in the woods no more. I love to fish. If I fish, I stay real close to a busy road. I don't get secluded by myself no more, you know, out there in the woods.

It changed all of us. Yeah, definitely. I mean, you know, it was a monster that came running out of the woods, you know, and monsters are, they're not supposed to be real. A lot of people find out they are, they are actually. real. The other thing I'm kind of curious about, so the parents didn't believe you guys, which is understandable, I guess to some extent, you know, the daughter gets out, then you guys

come back with, we were chased by Bigfoot. I wonder what I would, if I didn't believe in Bigfoot, I wonder what I would think if that happened. But, um, so I understand where the parents are coming from. But in the same breath, if she's that upset, you think they would stop to listen to her. Did you guys ever talk about it afterwards? I mean, did you ever talk to that girl? or anyone else who was there?

Yeah, absolutely. It was the only people I could talk to about it because I was scared to come forward because I didn't want the stigma that comes with it. I didn't want people thinking, you know, he's a nut. But yeah, we discussed it amongst ourselves. That was the only people we could, and our families, of course,

you know, it was the only ones we could really talk to about it. I haven't talked to my wife a whole lot about it. I haven't really talked to anybody a whole lot about it. certainly not my therapist once you you go through that it's hard to find any sort of relief

I've got more relief since I've came forward than I have in 30 years being able to talk about it and not being ridiculed and I've been real lucky so far people have been real inquisitive and not judgmental

which is I was real afraid of and I'll never be the same. I'll never be the same. Yeah, it definitely helps to talk about it. I mean, otherwise, it comes out in other ways, you know what I mean? And not in great ways, if you don't talk about it. And I'm glad that you came forward. I want to ask you, have you ever gone back to that area?

Have you ever thought of it? Yeah, we went back the next day in the daylight. And it was against my better judgment. but my buddy really needed the jack for his business, you know, and the jack was pretty much the reason we went back. And which we found it, but it was a good hundred yards away from where it was thrown out at, which never made sense.

And we did see the impressions where it climbed the bank. I mean, it took about three steps. You could see where the feet went into the, it was a soft shoulder. and it was nothing by any means it was castable. We didn't know how to cast back in anyway. You know, we did, we didn't, we was completely unprepared for anything like that. And I certainly weren't going to try to track it, but the ground was back in the woods is so full of litter.

And then, you know, you had the gravel road. I mean, the only tracks we've seen is where it came up the bank. And that was very clear. It really is a terrifying account. I mean, you know, and throwing the jack at it, you're right. I mean, it's jack that size. It jacks up those mobile homes. Probably would have killed a man if you'd have thrown it and to have it bounce off and it keeps coming.

That's pretty terrifying, man. Yeah, yeah. I mean, a 30-ton bottle jack weighs a good 25 or 30 pounds. Easy. And it just literally bounced off. I remember my buddy's screaming that. You know, the Jack bounced off. It bounced off.

I mean, all this, you know, you go from zero to 100 miles an hour and a matter of seconds as far as panic. I don't know. It's the only thing in my life is that ever made me lose control of my bladder. I mean, it scared me that bad. And that's the only time it's ever happened to me. Well, there's no shame in it. I probably would have, too.

What do you think that these things are? I mean, you had a hell of an experience with one, Mike. What's your opinion? What do you think that they are? You know, I've asked myself that question for 30 years. I don't know. I mean, I've tossed around everything from, you know, it being a living, breathing being to being something maybe interdimensional.

I mean, I've tossed always around in my head trying to make sense of it. And, you know, wondering how. this thing could navigate, which the White Oak Mountain game management area is 3,000 acres and it's right at the base of the Blue Ridge Mountains. And, you know, another thing I've tossed around all these years

with how in the world is this thing navigated, you know, somewhat undetected for all this time. It just doesn't make any sense. And, you know, naturally, you know, you're thinking of stuff that don't make sense. It don't help your situation in it. But as far as what they are, I don't know. I didn't smell anything.

That's one thing I've heard with a lot of reports. People smelling stuff. I didn't, we didn't smell anything out of the normal. I would have remembered that distinctly. But the one thing that really I don't understand is we didn't hear any other wildlife whatsoever. I mean, not even insects. That's strange. Yeah, you're right.

It is strange, Mike. And that goes on. I mean, and there's time, you know, and it's real odd when things are so quiet in the forest, it's almost deafening. And, you know, for, yeah, and that's why I struggle with it just being some weird natural animal that we haven't caught up with because I can't think of any other natural animal where everything's quiet when it's around. I mean, everything all the way down to the insects. Doesn't make, you know, obviously prey is going to be quiet when a predator's around, but the insects don't. turn off. I mean, the birds don't shut up. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. No, I mean, the place that we're at has got a nickname. They call it Hudau-Haller, and they call it that for reason, yeah, because you always hear hood owls. And we didn't hear any of those. Looking back, we didn't hear anything. I mean, it was extremely quiet. And the atmosphere, is different. It's next impossible to put into words. It's like a human instinct. You just sense things in the atmosphere. You could cut it with a knife. I mean, it's totally different.

It is. There's like there's something in the air when these things around. I get exactly what you mean. You know, the encounter is terrifying. Thank God it didn't hurt anyone. It might have been a bluff charge. It kind of seems like a pretty heavy bluff charge though to come after people. And I've heard of that. I've heard of them going after and actually making contact with people. And you and I both know. I mean, you saw the size of the thing. It could rip you from limb to limb and there's really nothing you could do about it. And a lot of situations, they will, they'll bump you or they'll come after you, but rarely do they come after you and really rip you apart. There has been, people have been killed. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that. I'm saying I think a lot of it

is for intimidation and a lot of it is to make you leave. go away, you know. That definitely worked. Yeah. I mean, it, it didn't, we didn't hear it breaking any branches, you know, other than the initial crash when we heard it. I didn't hear it breaking any branches. It didn't, when it stepped out, it didn't, it didn't throw anything. It, none of that, I hear a lot of reports about them, you know, snapping branches.

And now, of course, it first started, I mean, it could have been snapping a little saplings and stuff, because all we could hear was it moving. But as far as once I made eye contact, it didn't do nothing, but just basically weave from left to right, left to right, left to right. That was before the initial charge. And it was it rocking from right to left? Is that what you're saying? Yeah, yeah, that's a good word for it. Yeah, it was rocking. standing in one spot directly squared up with us and just left to right, rocking, left to right, left to right, left to right.

I don't know what that meant. I don't understand. I've never really researched primate behavior. That's exactly what it did. Just left to right, left to right. Yeah, a lot of primates, and I'm not so, well, Sasquatch might have some of that DNA in it. When you talk about non-human primates, they do do that when they get nervous. they'll kind of rock from side to side when they get nervous. And sometimes if you watch a lot of

chimpanzee behavior, they'll work up their, it's like they're trying to build up their nerve to attack you. And a lot of times they'll do that. They'll rock from left or right. And I don't know if it's a nervous tick or nervous behavior. There's a lot of non-human primates do that. There's a lot of human primates too. There's a lot of human primates that do that when they're nervous or whatever. I've seen that behavior back in the day with people where they will, when they're nervous, they'll do that. It is a fascinating account, Mike, and I'm so glad that, you know, no one got hurt. And, you know, I'm honored that you would come on and share it here. My advice to you is keep searching for answers.

It's so hard to find anything on this subject. And that's why I love talking to eyewitnesses because you get a lot of behaviors that you normally wouldn't hear about. Through different encounters, you can see a lot of different personalities. You can see a lot of different descriptions. Everyone's kind of describing the same thing, but a lot of the details are a little bit different depending on different regions. And it kind of helps, you know, it helps to come to terms with what happened to you when you do kind of investigate the subject and look into reports and whatnot. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, they are, I call it my armchair research, because I'm going to be

honest with you. I've had a bunch of people since I've come forward ask me, you know, would you want to go back? And absolutely not. I do not want to track that thing. And I tell them, you know, all, say we track it, say we find it. What are we going to do once we do? I mean, you know, I'm terrified of it. Hey, Mike, you broke up there for a second. I heard you were terrified of it. I don't know if the audience heard that part of it, but if you would kind of start there, I heard you were charred of it? I've just recently been able to

go and listen to vocalizations. Every time I tried to listen to them in the past, it was just too rough. I couldn't do it. Just here recently, I listened to one in Kentucky and I listened to one in British Columbia in Canada that was as close as it gets to what we heard.

In Kentucky really made me feel a lot better because I was thinking, you know, Kentucky's close to Virginia, maybe I ain't crazy, you know. But, yeah, it's a couple of recordings out there that are really, really close to what we heard. Yeah, well, you're definitely not crazy, Mike. You know, and I appreciate you taking the time to come on and share it. Keep searching for answers. I'm honored that you'd come on.

Thank you again, Mike, for sharing it. Oh, man, no problem. And I want to thank the sponsor of the show MyBooky. My Bookie loves Sasquat Truncles to show him some love back. I'll give you all the promo code and the website here in a moment. On Thursday, I don't know if you guys caught this or not. There was an altercation between the Brown's pass rusher, Miles Garrett, and the Steelers quarterback, Mason Rudolph,

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And I want to thank MyBooky again for sponsoring the show. Well, next up, I want to welcome Destin to the show. Destin, thanks for coming on. Thank you, Wes. It's a pleasure I've been listening to you for years, so I'm glad to share my experience. Yeah, I'm glad to have you on, and thank you so much for listening. Now, I know your encounter took place in Michigan, didn't it? It did, yep.

It happened in northeast Michigan. You're a national forest. Well, if you would, just kind of start from the beginning. Tell us what you're doing, and walk us into what happened. Okay, it was 2003. I was going camping with my younger brother. He's about nine years younger than me. And it was early, or late April, early May.

He was graduating high school, so it was sort of wanted to take him on a trip and have a little bit of fun out in the woods. So we went up up into the year of National Forest in the middle of the week because we thought it would be a little bit less crowded, you know, have some time up to ourselves. So we headed up there in like a day or so. We did some hiking and stuff during the daytime.

We driving down two tracks looking for a place to camp. So we sort of found a relatively remote place. It was, had a nice little clearing of spot for a set up a tent, trail going down, a little bit of hills on both sides and a little bit of valley going back down. And it was pretty late in the evening by the time we got there. So we sort of just set up, set up our. campground, started a little fire, made some food, and it was, you know, it was dust time by then. You know, we just finished eating. We were just sitting around the campfire, chilling out, talking, and stuff like that.

And it was dusk. It was, you know, just light enough when you're in the little bit of meadow, you can see around, but, you know, you can't really see through the trees and through the woods and stuff. and my brother mentioned that up on the hillside it sounded like somebody was there was something walking around up there and it was it wasn't very loud because I didn't hear it and we just figured it was probably a squirrel or something so it just continued hanging around by the campfire and about 10 minutes later we heard what sounded like a log rolling over not like a tree got pushed over but like there was a log that was laying on the hillside and it got you know pushed over, turned over.

We pretty much assumed right away that it was a bear because we sort of figured that they might have came in for the food, the smell of what we were cooking. And sometimes we figured that they probably pushed logs over on the ground to sort of eat the grubs and stuff underneath there. So we tossed some more wood on the fire, took our food, put it inside the car. So we figured there's a bear around the campsite. and we're sort of a little bit on a heightened state. We just, you know, continued to sit around the camp prior talking.

You know, the light had sort of faded away by now, and it was pretty dark by now. And then where our campsite was sitting, there was hills on both sides, and this is Michigan, so it's not like it is out west or in the Pacific Northwest or the mountains. You know, the hills are only like 30, 40 feet on either side of us. But down about 100 yards away through some of the. trees and down the valley of where we were sitting, we heard this extremely loud scream. It was like an a scream, like a ah, but what really impressed us about it was not only how loud it was.

I mean, it's one of those things we can sort of feel it in your chest a little bit, but that scream lasted for like eight or ten seconds, like louder than, you know, louder than a human could do louder than anything else we knew in the area. It assumed it was a bear. It was going around, but we both were looking at each other and started talking about it. Where we were at, there's about an out of court in Michigan about an hour north of us. And just from the pure volume of it, it didn't, we were sort of imagining like the lung capacity of this thing that a black bear would not be able to. to produce that sound.

We were thinking that maybe an elk was able to produce the sound, but it was it didn't sound like what we would expect a noise an elk could make. Did it sound kind of human? I would consider

it potentially to be in the human range. It didn't sound like anything. I mean, the volume, I mean, it was a human just from the volume in the, the, the length of it. I mean, there's no human that has a set of lungs that are going to be that large. But, yeah, I mean, it wasn't, it wasn't like a weird, abnormal sound that I think a human couldn't make him.

And it was like, ah, but it just kept going and going and going when it did that. So we were, I mean, we were super confused at this point in time. and about two minutes later, it went off again. And it was, the valley's not that wide. I mean, it's maybe like 30 yards wide. But the noise sounded about the same distance, but it was off in a little bit different direction. And we just were trying to figure out what it was

because at this point in time in my life, I really didn't have a lot of exposure to big footing. I mean, what I heard by Bigfoot was like from Harry and the Henderson, seeing the Patterson film, and like seeing a couple of old newspaper articles with people holding up big plastic casts and stuff like that. Yeah. So it's, I mean, you try to frame something and what makes sense

and really nothing was making sense. And it sounded, the other thing about it is it sounded like it was directed directly at us, and it didn't sound like it was happy. It sounded, I mean, it sounded like it was sort of, upset or angry. And we kept on just talking about what that was going to be. And then it went off a third time, a couple minutes later. I mean, that same, ah, that long, drawn out sound.

We really couldn't figure out what it was. I mean, we were between a bear and an L. But it didn't sound like either of them, but we sort of figured, whatever it is, it's upset, it's angry at us. You know, whether we were, you know, whether it saw us, whether it saw us, whether it didn't like the noise we were making, whether it didn't like the campfire. It sounded like an angry animal. And we didn't want to, we didn't want to be, you know, we didn't want to provoke it at this point in time because we could just imagine some huge massive animal sort of pacing off in the

distance, yelling at us, angry at us. So we thought our best course of action was to go inside the tent, sort of be a little bit quiet and, you know, it'd leave us alone. It wouldn't see us. It wouldn't hear us it would sort of take off and leave so that's what we did um we went in the tent um you know just we're quietly talking in there and nothing after that i mean once we went inside the tent there were no more screams i mean it whatever it was seemed like it left and it was gone we pretty much just you know a half hour after we went in the tent i mean we were you know we turned the flash this off it weren't talking loud so we didn't know how to provide anything. We just sort of dozed off and fell asleep. And so we were sleeping. My brother was to the

left of me, just a small three-person dome tent. I was sort of in the middle of the night. I was half groggy and I heard a voice talking. And it, I was still, you know, I mean, you're sort of a half-wake, half-gaggy, but I pretty quickly realized it was outside the tent, and it was close, and it wasn't my brother. And it was like you go from being groggy to instantly, like, you know, 100% conscious, fully awake. And it was, it was talking, but it wasn't, it didn't make sense to me. What it sounded like, the closest thing it sounded like to me was, you know, back, when I was a younger kid, they used to have, you hear people talk about, you play this record backwards, and you get in here hidden messages in these music songs.

So it sounded like just, it sounded like human speech. It sounded like a deep, masculine voice. It sounded like it was about 10 feet away from me, but it was just, it was just human sound, human syllables, but they weren't making sense to me. Um, it was just back, I call it backwards talking because it sounds like a record you play backwards, where it's regular English, uh, silence consonants, but they're just backwards. And it, it really frightened me. Um, it sounded like, I'll just do my impersonation of it. It sounded like, you also be do, baby, olivio, also. And this slow, you know, I mean, relatively slow talk. the talking was was more of like um didn't have any hard consonants like a t or an r or anything it was more of this like you know flowing language it sounded human um i was sleeping in a sleeping bag that has

this really shiny nylon material so if you know you try to move around or you try to do anything in the sleeping bag it makes a noise i was frightened i'm i mean you're in the middle of of the woods, miles from anywhere, it's the middle of the night. I mean, at this point in time, I still was thinking, I was thinking it was a person because, you know, that's the only frame of reference I had. I mean, there's something talking to me right outside my tent. But if you have somebody coming to your campsite in the middle of the night in the middle of the woods, I'm thinking there's not a good outcome.

I mean, they're not coming there to cheer a beer with you or to have a friendly talk. I get it, man. I get it. Yeah, it was frightening. Because I didn't understand the language. I thought it was, I thought it was somebody who was foreign. I thought, I mean, it was somebody speaking a different language. The weird thing about it, though, that I didn't realize still later on when I was awake,

is that even when you heard somebody speaking a different language, I mean, you might not know Spanish, you might know no French, you might not know German, but when you hear them speak that language, you can sort of tell that they're speaking that language. But what I was here and whatever it was was not a language that I could identify. So because I was afraid, I didn't want this thing that, I didn't want this person, this thing to know I was awake and I was sitting up in my tent. You know, I wanted them to go away. I mean, I had, you know, and you're like a little kid.

I mean, you're trying to, you know, you hide underneath a blanket that nobody can see you, nobody can hear you. But my brother's sitting next to me and I'm freaking out in there, but I don't want this thing, whatever it is, to know that I'm awake and to know that I'm moving around and I'm awake in there. So it was, it felt like forever, but I'm slowly, slowly moving my arm out of my sleeping bag and end up, you know, prodding my brother trying to wake him up so he can, I mean, you know, shared misery so we can both be in a situation.

both be awake. We can both be prepared for whatever, you know. Yeah, I get it. I laugh. The share of the misery part made me laugh. Yeah. I have brothers too as well. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, this thing, you know, it probably was talking for about like 45 seconds, maybe a minute, but it would sort of say like a couple phrases and then I would sort of pause and you wouldn't hear it for a little bit that I would say it. I was expecting the worst. I mean, I was waiting there for something to happen. And it just, I mean, after, you know, 45 seconds or so, it stopped talking.

And it didn't, it didn't continue. I was waiting and waiting and waiting because I figured whatever it is is going to have to, you know, walk away, move away from the tent because it was really close to us. I mean, it was this loud voice that was just close to the tent. And after we didn't, I didn't hear it talking anymore. I, you know, stop poking my brother. but I was so afraid. I just spent the rest of the night motionless trying to not make any noise, trying to listen for anything. And I don't know what time it was in the middle of the night.

I didn't have a watch that I could check, but I mean, it was hours and hours that I was sitting in that sleeping bag just motionless. And I remember there was just about dusk or dawn time. And I heard a bird start singing and that felt like. you know my saving grace because you know I figured it'd been hours and hours the lights up now it's probably safe to go to bed so I sort of dozed off um and then you know a little bit later my brother woke up the first thing I told him is he he wasn't he I couldn't wake him up I mean he's a hard sleeper so we you know I was telling him all about this there you know there's somebody in our campsite in the middle of the night they were

talking and, you know, it's going to hell. And I mean, I said, we need to go out there and see, you know, what they were doing or if we can figure out what was going on. And I told him that there was this bush that was about 10 feet away from my tent. I said, sounded like it was coming right from by the area that bush was. So we get out of the tent, put her shoes on and and go right over there. And this is more, you know, it's a meadow. But I mean, it's, it's, this is not like a muddy terrain. This is, I mean, it's just like a forest floor and meadow and stuff like that. So there's not a good spot where it's going to leave a really good impression.

But right behind that bush was sort of a little bit of a low spot. It was the springtime still, so their ground was pretty moist and wet. But we saw a gigantic huge footprint. I had five toes. We were looking there was no claws. It went all the way back. back to a heel. And it was facing towards the tent directly behind that bush.

And, you know, the wheels in the head started turning and turning. Oh, yeah. I bet. Yes. So, I mean, because at this point in time, we'd heard, you know, we thought there was a bear. We heard this weird scream. We couldn't figure out what it was. And then there's some person that's in our campsite in the middle of the night.

And it just didn't, I mean, none of it made sense until we saw. that footprint. And we started going back through the, through the valley, um, looking and we found another low spot. And we found another same thing. It was a, it was a large barefoot footprint. Um, we went back to our car, um, grabbed the tape measure from our toolbox and checked it. And the footprints were 18 inches long. Um, they were depressed into the ground, maybe like an eighth of an inch. But we tried to, we went right next to the ground, right next to it were stopping as hard as we could, and we could barely leave a mark in the ground. And, you know, growing up in Michigan, you don't hear a lot of people talking about Bigfoot or anything else like that, but we sort of figured out

this is Bigfoot in our head. And this seemed like some major, you know, this is like some major breaking thing. There's not supposed to be Bigfoot in Michigan. At the time, that's what I was thinking. And Bigfoot's not supposed to be real. I mean, you grew up and your parents always tell you there's no such thing as monsters, but you know what I mean? We got physical proof in front of us. Yeah, that's a terrifying night, man. I mean, that's a really terrifying night. And this was back in what, 2003, I think, is what your channel said? 2003 yeah um so i mean i don't know if bigfoot is more prevalent in the media now but i mean ever since that encounter i've um you know you i have a thirst for no one what these things are

and so you know read about it and and look up for it and and you know try to have other encounters um but at the time this was i mean it was wasn't anything that i would think of i mean we didn't think Michigan, Bigfoot's word Michigan. Yeah, and I can understand that. Can I ask you what you heard, did it sound like this? Is that kind of, and you know what, Destin, you're right, they don't use Ores and T's. I never thought about that to you. I just listened to that and I heard you make that comment, but going back to, and that may not have been what you heard, but was that close to what you heard, or was it way off? No, that was, it was pretty close. I mean, I think the first sound, the first part

where I was talking, sounded more forceful and more than what I was hearing. But towards the end of the recording is, is more or less what I heard. It was more like flowing sounds, like some of the, some of those same, you know, consonants. I mean, the same letter strings seemed similar. I think the one thing that when I heard it, it was stringing longer, longer word. I would call them words, but I don't know if they use it. words, but I mean, it was longer words together.

And that thing sounded, the recording you played sounded like it was angry or upset. What I heard sounded like stone cold, no emotion. It was just, it was just, you know, putting those words out there. But yeah, I think the the character letters and stuff sounds very similar.

Yeah. Yeah, that's fascinating. One other question I want to ask you, and I want to come back to this, talking and I want to get your opinion on something. Before we do that, before all this started happening, so you guys are setting up camp, kind of sitting around the campfire, and you hear this yell.

I'm curious, did it sound like the Ohio and I can play it for you if you want? Well, let me just play it. Did it sound like this? I think that's pretty much what I heard. Except what I heard was 100 yards away and was vibrating in my chest. So, I mean, it sounded like that,

but really, really, really close up. I mean, that one sort of sounded like it was, you know, off in the distance. This was directed towards us for sure. I got you. And I want to ask you, and it's, man, sir, forgive me playing sounds because it's only, instead of me saying, oh, how, a new listener might be like, what is that? So, and the one before was the Sierra sounds with Ron Moorhead. Ron Moorhead and Albury captured those back in, I think it was the 60s or 70s.

when it was talking, when you were in the tent, do you think it was talking to you, or do you think it was talking to another one that was close by? It was only, there was only one voice. It was only from something that was, you know, 10 feet away from us. I didn't hear any other movement, any other sound. It sounded to me like it was directed towards us. The one thing we've always, me and my brother have always talked about,

and I've always tried to figure out in my head. It's an intentional act that it did, and I don't know why it did it. I mean, I don't know if it was trying to see if we were awake or if it was trying to get us to come out of the tent or if it was just trying to scare us. But I don't think it was communicating with anything else because if it was, whatever it was trying to communicate with, didn't communicate back. I got you. You never got a response. You never heard a response. Never heard it. it's still terrifying to hear him talk i heard him talk one time in texas heard him chatter i call it and it is a real bizarre thing to hear because and i can kind of see you sitting in your tent

and your your your the wheels and your mind are going uh is this a guy is this some russian guy that's out here trying to cost you know what i mean and yeah and i say russian because it kind you know kind of that asian um i'm sure to them we talk odd but um you know and and i could see you sitting there going, man, it's someone to step into our camp and what are they talking about? You know, that's terrifying. Did you ever go back? Did you ever go back to that area? Yeah, well, the one thing is when we left that morning, we, I mean, we were giddy, we were excited. This is some new discovery to us. So we wanted to get a plaster cast. So there was a town about 15 minutes away, and they had a small hardware store and we went to the store and they didn't have

any plaster. So we were tooling around and doing some other stuff. But, but, you know, But we're driving back and we're at still this point in time. I mean, it was a scary night for me. But once we figured I was Bigfoot, we wanted to see it. And I know that's probably not a smart thing now. But we wanted to go back there. And we thought it's going to come back again tonight. And we might have a chance to see it or something.

So we're driving back and we're going back on that two track. And we're getting close. and, you know, we're giddy, we're excited. We've been talking about it all day. And we get close to the campsite and, like, the mood, the feeling just changed. And we both talked about how it felt like we were being watched when we were about maybe, I don't know, like 300 yards away from our campsite. We sort of got up closer to it. And we saw our tent and our tent was flipped upside out.

It was a really windy day, so I'm not going to say I know what caused it, but we had this feeling of being watched, and we saw our tent flipped over, and we decided there's no way in, you know, there's no way we're spending the night here. This is, you know, it's, it's crossed a level where, you know, we just, we just felt uncomfortable. So we were, we were so on edge that we flipped the tent back over. one of us would go inside and would, you know, pack up their clothes, roll up their sleeping bag, while the other one was standing outside that tent, you know, swirling around, making sure there's nothing sneaking up on us. Well, the other person did that. And then I have been back to the area since then. You know, once I had this experience, I mean, it took me for life. I want to know what's going on. I want to know what these things are. So I have been back there.

I've never had an encounter at that specific site. You know, I've camped up there tons of times and haven't seen anything since. A couple years later, I heard wood knocks in a relatively close by area, but I've never had another experience like that again. Yeah, and it could have been the wind. A lot of times, winds don't, wind doesn't blow over tents when they're full of sleeping bags and clothes, though. You know what I mean?

Yeah, I mean, there had to be at least 30 pounds of stuff in that tent with with our, you know, each had a duffel bag of clothes and tents and stuff like that. And I don't know what it was, but it, I mean, if it was them, they were sending a message. They didn't want us there. Yeah, probably. Probably. What do you think that these things are? Dustin, what's your opinion?

I, I mean, they, I've never seen one. So, I mean, I feel a little bit behind the eight ball there. But, I mean, it left behind physical evidence. I mean, it left, it has enough mass work. impress deeply into the ground. You know, it's an intelligent, it seems like it's an intelligent creature. I mean, it knew we were there, it was messing with us, it was trying to get rid of us. I sort of think they're a flesh and bird creature.

You know, maybe, maybe some offshoot of, you know, giganticus or something else like that. But there's weird stuff. I mean, you always hear about weird stuff. I listen to your show. I hear about weird stuff. So it wouldn't surprise me if there's something else. but as far as I know, I think flesh and blood. Yeah, the language thing throws me off too, because I, you know, I've heard it and I've heard of witnesses, you know,

who've been real up and close and personal like you were. I mean, realistically, it was just separating you, you know, a piece of thin fabric was separating you in this saying as it was talking back and forth. The language thing really throws me off. I'm not sure what to make of that, but they do seem to be flush and blood. I'm not saying weird stuff doesn't go on because it does. But they do leave trace evidence, like the footprint you found, 18 inches, man. That's a big footprint.

Yeah. Oh, the other thing is we measured the bush that was right next, you know, right 10 feet away from our tent. And it was eight feet tall. And I have to imagine that whatever that, you know, what it was was standing right behind that bush. And I'm guessing I could probably see over that bush and see down and was looking right at our tent when we did it too. So I have to imagine he was a pretty big gigantic guy, you know. Yeah, it seems like it, especially with the footprint you found. It's a fascinating account.

I love hearing the vocals. You know, I realize you didn't see what caused it. But a lot of the vocals that you describe and some of the ones that I've played, a lot of people hear that out there. A lot of hunters hear that. And they're not sure what to make of it. But, you know, it really is a fascinating account. I really appreciate you taking the time, Dustin, to come on.

and share what happened to you and your brother. Thank you, Wes. I appreciate everything you've done. I mean, the one thing I appreciate about your show is, I think it gives a good outlet for people to share their encounters. I mean, me personally, I haven't shared it with very many people just because, you know, the fear of being ridiculed. And I think your show is a great way to share your encounters.

Thanks, man. I appreciate saying that. Well, next up on the show, I want to welcome Delbert. Delbert, thanks for coming on. man. Yeah, thanks for having me. Yeah, I appreciate you being here. And I know you had an encounter out there in Colorado. If you would, would you just kind of start from the beginning, kind of tell us what you were doing, and walk us into what happened if you would. Yeah, for sure. So it was a, it was last Saturday it was. And me and a couple of my buddies, Albert and Isaac went fishing at a 11-mile

reservoir. And it was the first time we've been out there, but we just decided to go out there that weekend just kind of enjoy it and went out there about i think got out there about 10 30 and uh i mean like it was a beautiful day i mean not a cloud in the sky and it was perfect fishing weather but uh you know we we fished all day long probably until about 530 so we got skunked on fishing of course but we uh we're heading back down and we're going to uh back to pueblo and uh probably about 10 miles out of 11 mile reservoir we were coming around a left-handed bend and it was it was starting to get dark and I saw a movement on the left side of the road and caught my attention quick so I you know I just I kept all my attention on it and it looked like a big person so it went through my mind is I was

what's this dude doing because it was it was getting dark and it's really cold out there I just kind of thought like what's this due doing right now uh you know like just looked like a really, really big human. And, you know, as we came around the bend, the headlights shined on it a little better. And when that happened, it kind of looked like it was hunched over a little bit, like facing the hill on the left side of the road. And I saw it and it kind of looked over its shoulder because I could see it look at us and the headlights kind of shined on it. And we just saw, I saw his face and it showed two eyes and the eyes were bright. bright like probably bright like a star and it kind of gave us a look of just evil it was just like a

creepy eerie feeling and it was probably the creepiest thing i've ever seen in my life um but the the face kind of lit up you know and i saw the best way i could explain it was probably like a like a monkey the face is kind of bald and there's some hair around it but like i said like the the look that it gave us was probably just the creepiest thing i've ever seen in my life i'm I mean, even thinking about it, just kind of gives me goosebumps. But, you know, as it came around the bend, you know, all three of us were like, whoa, what was that? And we all, all three of us saw it, and we all have seen some features and just different features of it. But as we came around the bend, you know, the headlights shone on it, and I saw it look.

And all of a sudden, I saw it turn towards the hill on the left-hand side. And I saw it take like a two-step. And I saw shoulders. I saw it kind of pump its shoulders like it was running. And then we passed right by and I just, I couldn't see it anymore. But, you know, we passed by and there was a boulder that it was standing kind of behind. And the boulder was probably about six feet tall. And it stood about a foot above the actual rock.

So we kind of guessed that it was probably about seven or eight feet tall. But when I, when he pumped the shoulders like that, I saw, I saw the shoulders and I also saw hair, which was like a peppered color hair, like a gray and black. So it was just, it was something I've never seen. seen before in my life. I grew up in the mountains and, you know, Albert and Isaac go fishing and go to the mountains a lot. So we all know what animals look like. And I can say for fact, it was it was an animal that I've never, ever seen before in my life. Yeah, and I know we were going to have Albert and Isaac. We're talking about having them on. I was kind of telling you, I mean, I would have had them on, but sometimes it doesn't work out great in podcast format because

everyone starts talking at once. I want to ask you, what did you think of the Sasquatch Top prior to this. I know you live out in Colorado. Did you ever give it much thought or? Well, yeah. I mean, I do because I've, you know, like I know a lot of people that have said that they, they've seen it. Like, even my dad actually has his own encounter with it, you know, driving to Denver on his way to work. But, I mean, it's kind of something I was skeptical about, you know, and I just kind of thought, well, you know, maybe, maybe, but I didn't know for sure. And I was just kind of skeptical about it. Yeah. And so you guys see this sense. and you mentioned the eyes or like the stars,

were they illuminating because of the light? Or when you say that, what do you mean? The headlights were on it, and the eyes lit up because of the lights were on it. But the way that the eyes looked were just unusually big and just unusually bright. They were just really, you know, Albert had said that, like,

one of the things that he's stuck on is how big the eyes were, like, in proportionate to, like, its head and body, stuff like that. did it have a human-like appearance at all, or was it more like a non-human primate? It, like it was definitely human-like. Like I said, when it was kind of hunched over, I could tell, like it looked like it was like hugging a tree, something like that. There was no tree there, but that's the best way I could explain it. And the way that it looked at us, I could see that it looked over its left shoulder at us.

And then the way that it moved back and then pumped shoulders, it was exactly like a human wood. when they're trying to like run away. Yeah, that's fascinating. It really is a fascinating account, especially, you know, you had a chance to see it with several witnesses, which, you know, at least you have someone to talk to about this whole thing. I wanted to ask you, you had mentioned that it kind of late when you guys hit it with the light, it looked over its shoulder and kind of had an evil look. What do you mean when you say that? So I would say like just the look that it gave us and you know like he Isaac had said that it looked like it like it stared in your soul which i can kind of i can kind of back that up because like i said it it gives me goosebumps just kind of

thinking about it just the the manner that it looked at us almost angry and just you know just really eerie and just a creepy thing and it was probably just because i never seen anything like that before and i you know i looked at its eyes and just the way that the face looked it just looked really creepy, like angry, and just eerie. A lot of people say that. A lot of people say that. I know I had Mark on the members-only show on Friday night, and he had made that comment, almost like when they look at you, it's like they're looking in your soul. Exactly. Real bizarre look. Yeah. Did you and your friends ever talk about it after this encounter? Well, yeah, we did. You know, we were like really shocked

after it happened. So what we did actually is we, you know, we passed the 11 mile, you know, like the road and stuff like that. We went down into Floresa and actually hit Woodland Park. And we stopped there and we ate at Wendy's and we were like continuously talking about it. You know, we even kind of were skeptical about asking some of the locals around there if they've ever seen something like that, but we didn't just because we didn't think anybody would believe us. But we, you know, we ate at Wendy's. We got gas and all three of us, you know, Albert was like, maybe we should go back out there. Isaac was like, I don't know, you know, maybe we should, maybe we shouldn't.

But we actually decided to go back out there. So this is probably about 7 o'clock. And we took that drive up there. We went all the way back to the reservoir and kind of tried to retrace our steps. And we had a big mag light that I was shining out the window the entire time. And, you know, we kind of kept stopping at the left-hand bends just to kind of see if we could verify where it was and see if maybe, you know, possibly see something. you know, footprints if we're really lucky. But, you know, we couldn't get 100% where it was exactly,

but we have a couple ideas where it was because like the left-hand bends and we're looking for the big rock that we saw stuff like that, but we couldn't find anything else to, you know, to go with it. Yeah, I know you mentioned your dad had an encounter. Did you talk to your dad about this? Yeah, I did. So he actually, I think it was about four years ago. He was on his way to Denver driving.

And, you know, like there's some places that where there's trees and bushes and stuff like that. And he said that when he was driving, you know, another car's light actually shined into the forest there. And he saw a human-like creature like that. And he said, I didn't freak him out crazy too. I don't know if it looked at him or what it did. But he said that it was a human-like creature, you know, really big, hairy. and he said that he was looking for people that maybe like, you know, pulled over or something like that. Maybe they had a flat tire or something.

But, you know, he had that, that siding. He said that it really freaked him out too. And I talked to him about it. And, you know, he definitely does believe me because after that siding, he had it, it changed his mind definitely, too. Yeah, it's kind of nice when your dad's had an encounter and then much of your buddies you're with that have an had an encounter. And thank God it wasn't really aggressive. If you know, a lot of times they will just leave. Yeah.

Kind of bizarre that they hang around the side of roads, and you hear that a lot. There's a lot of eyewitnesses that will have where they're coming up the road. And at the last minute, this thing steps out right in front of the car, which is bizarre. It's very bizarre. It is. And we were talking to actually Isaac and Albert's brother, James, like, we're on the phone with him after we saw it and stuff. And, you know, he believes in that stuff, too. So he started looking up, you know, report, stuff like that.

And we were telling him, like, we're going to go back, dude. And he was like, no, no, don't do it because he pulled up articles of them, like, throwing rocks at people and stuff like that. And he actually said that that county where we were at Park County was one of the, like, the highest rated places of sightings in Colorado. So we were just kind of, you know, like, that's where we were kind of skeptical of going back. But we did. But, you know. Yeah, well, be careful if you go back. I mean, you saw how big this thing is.

And if it gets its hands on you, you're in trouble. Oh, exactly, yeah. I think most of the time they'll probably get up and leave and probably won't harass you most of the time. Not always, but most of the time. What do you think that they are? What's your opinion, Delbert? Have you talked with your friends and you guys kind of talked about what really is this thing? Yeah, I mean, we've, you know, I've told a lot of people about it.

And there's some people that believe me, some people that don't. But like I said, I'm from the mountains. And, you know, the other two are from, you know, places where we go like, hunt and, fishing stuff like that all the time and it was an animal that i've definitely never ever seen before my life and i know for fact it was not a bear it wasn't a deer it wasn't like a moose nothing like that just because of the like the way the back was the back wasn't you know like back it was like the back actually went down it had shoulders and it looked really really human like and i mean it you know in my opinion you know it could be you know what i mean it could be a a saskwatch and it could

be, you know, I know for a fact that it wasn't an animal I've ever seen before. Yeah, well, it's a fascinating account, especially with the stink eye it gives you. A lot of eyewitnesses say that. They say when they turn and they look at you, it's a very like piss off type look. Exactly. Yeah, it was that I looked like angry. And, you know, like Albert had said, too, it's just weird that all three of us actually seen it because there's a lot of, you know, encounters that people talk about and only one one person saw or something like that. But, you know, all three of us could give you, you know, the same exact story on what we saw. And it's just, it's crazy to be able to have people, like you said, that you can talk to and

actually seeing it with you and witnessed it with you. Yeah, well, be safe going back out there, man. If you and your friends decide to go out there, just be careful. Treat it the same way you would have bear. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah, exactly. You're not going to cross a bear. Yeah, you're right. We're planning on going to go. I'm fishing up there, I think, this next weekend, so we'll be extra cautious this time. What kind of fish you get out of there? We're trying to get the big trout over there. At 11 mile, there's a lot of stories of the big trout.

So we actually started doing ice fishing and stuff like that last year. So it's still open water right now, but we're trying to get the big trout. Well, I wish you guys luck out there, Delbert. And thank you so much for coming on, man. Sharing your encounter. I really appreciate your time. Yeah, for sure. Thank you. I appreciate you having me on.

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