Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:624 The Abomination

Episode Date: February 9, 2020

I will be welcoming Cliff to the show. Cliff is from Louisiana and has hunted his whole life. Cliff had an encounter with a wolf like creature he stumbled on while hunting. He said "I don't know…I just don't know but this thing terrified me, when it stood up it was 13-15 feet away from me and it was big. It turned and looked at me and it felt evil, I raised my gun and it took off. I have never seen anything like it before and I have never seen anything run as fast as this thing did.   FABRIK, who you'll recognize from their song "Black Lake" played on our outro, is working on their second album. Let's show them some support!   Dave (bassist for FABRIK) writes, "Our second album, Impermanence, is ready for release. We're so proud of it that we think it deserves to be on vinyl. So, we've set up a Kickstarter campaign for you to pledge and pre-order your copy on vinyl or CD, along with a few other goodies."   Check out the Kickstarter page here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/fabriktheband/impermanence-by-fabrik   International Bigfoot Conference 2020   Three Rivers Convention Center, 7016 West Grandridge Blvd, Kennewick, WA 99336   Admission tickets are good for all three days of fun and films with access to all speakers and vendor tables. Come on out and get in on the weekend of friends, filmmakers and serious researchers from all over. For those who will only be popping in for one day, a $25 'One Day Pass' will be available at the door.   For tickets and more information visit: https://www.internationalbigfootconference.com/   Visit www.sasquatchchronicles.com for additional weekly shows and exclusive content.

Hey there, Sasquatch Chronicle fans, my name's Dave. I'm the bassist in a band called Fabric from the UK, or Fabric, for the Purists. And I'm here to ask for your support, so many of you may not know, but our big break really came when Wes played our song, Black Lake, at the end of one of the episodes of Saskatch Chronicles. I contacted Wes because I love that Pompeia tune. A lot of the stuff he plays, Moby Porcelain. His version of O, sometimes get a good feeling.

That's good too. But I'm here to ask for your support. Our second album is written, recorded, mixed, mastered. We've done all that stuff ourselves. However, to get it on CD and vinyl, and distributed, we need to raise some cash. So I'm asking my fellow Squatchers to pledge on this crowd funder. There are many different options that you can support us with a pledge and hopefully it means that you'll be owning before anyone

else on CD or vinyl or have a t-shirt, anything you want from the pledges, but I really hope that you support us and I want to say thank you to all the people, all the squatchers around the world who have supported us. It's been overwhelming the amount of people that have commented on our video and how far around the world we've actually been reaching. And it is all thanks to Wes and you listeners of Squatch Chronicles. So stay squatchy friends. go from left to right and I thought, I'm going to die out here and no one's ever going to know.

I couldn't believe what my eyeballs was showing me. I'll never forget how evil the eyes were. It was horrible. I mean, I've never seen nothing that evil. It ran towards me at a rate that I can't even explain, turned and stared at me, and this look of, I just want to kill you. I want to say it was human. but it wasn't.

He was yelling out, and he was yelling out, maybe, grab a gun, grab a gun. I was like, for what? He said, just grab a gun. And there's footprints all the way to the door of my house that had went inside my garage

all the way to the door. 911, what are you reporting? Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about six foot, nine, I don't know. Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right at him.

You're listening to Sasquatch Chronicles. Check us out online at Sasquatch Chronicles. If you've had an encounter, email me. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show planned for you tonight.

That was Fabric, the band Fabric before the intro, and I hope everyone goes out to support them. You can find them on Facebook. It's F-A-B-R-I-K. I know when I've said Fabric in the past, So a lot of people type in FAB, RIC, and can never find them. But it ends with a K. And you can find them on YouTube.

You can find them on iTunes. A very cool band. They put together some really cool music. Tonight I'll be playing White Star. It's a song called White Star. A very haunting tune. It's kind of like the Black Lake tune. It's very haunting.

It kind of draws you in. And I love their music. I love all genres of music. Good music. And I'm definitely a fan of the band Fabrics. So if you get a chance to check him out, hopefully we can go out and support them in their endeavors. Tonight we'll be talking to Cliff, and Cliff comes to us from Louisiana, and he was very close to a creature, not a Sasquatch, a different type of creature,

and he was within 13, 15 feet of this thing, and it stood up and turned around and looked at him. A very scary account. We're also going to be welcoming to the show Russell Accord from the International Bigfoot Conference and the TV show Expedition Bigfoot. I'm really looking forward to the International Bigfoot Conference. I hope to see everyone out there. It's September 4th through the 6th in Kennewick, Washington. The International Bigfoot Conference.

Can't wait for it. We'll be talking with him. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Russ to the show.

Russell Accord. Welcome to the show. Thanks so much for being here. Hey, Wes, thanks for having me, man. I love coming on your show. Yeah, well, I appreciate you being here. And Russell Accord from the TV show Expedition Bigfoot, and I know you have the International Bigfoot conference going on again this year.

Tell us about it. I'm glad it's coming back. It's one of my favorite conferences to attend. Oh, man, me too. been last year, now that I can say what's going on, last year we weren't really, I wasn't able to do it because it was just too busy with schedule filming and then trying to juggle everything in life. Then you have to do pickups, which means once you've done your filming, they want you to come back and pick up some of the things we might have left out or forgotten. So it was a busy year,

but that's behind us. This year, I was able to, I know that I can, handle just about anything that comes my way on schedule. So we went ahead and went forward with the IBC and it's going to be freaking amazing. Yeah, I'm excited. I can't wait for it. It's one of the few conferences I really look forward to going to and meeting everyone and meeting new people. I'm very excited to go and I was kind of bummed out. You didn't have it going on last year, but I understand that you were filming the Expedition Bigfoot. And congratulations on your success with Expedition Bigfoot. I wonder, hopefully there'll be a season two. Oh, man.

I hope we're, the whole cast, I know we're all kind of hopeful that we get a season two just for the fact that, um, getting back out there, getting in the woods, working with this, this group is just dynamic. You know, you've got Dr. Maria who's just, um, she's a walking encyclopedia. I do enjoy working with her. Um, Ronnie and I, we have different perspectives, which I think you'll see that in the show. But he's great to work with. I mean, he's just enthusiastic and sticks with it. He just stays the course. And then Bryce, whenever we need something,

he's got all the fancy gadgets for the connections to get the fancy gadgets to work with. So it was great being able to use equipment that I normally wouldn't have been able to use. Or afford, I mean, just some really, really great tech. So it just kind of took it to the whole new level. And I would have blessed. Yeah. Hopefully there'll be season two. I know the International Bigfoot Conference is, what, September 4th through the 6th, I believe.

That is correct. Yeah. And for people coming out, let's say they're coming out for the first time. What can they expect coming out to the IBC? Things to expect. It's Labor Day weekend, so it's already going to be a long weekend. You don't have to worry about getting the time off Monday, getting back home. So that's why I kind of chose that weekend.

The venue is just incredible. Three Rivers Convention Center. We're in Kennewick, Washington. The hotel is, there's hotels wrapped all the way around it. So everything's just all-inclusive if you want to come out. The lineup of speakers, I've tried to make it each year better and better and kind of increase the, you know, the people, as far as intellect and everything else, we have Dr. Maria Mayor there and Dr. Jeff Meldrum there. We have just some dynamic researchers.

Bob Gimlin will be there, as usual. He seems to be the guy, the go-to guy for conferences. So he'll be there. And it's just, it's a Friday late afternoon to the evening. It's all day, Saturday, and then Sunday morning until about lunchtime or so or a little after. And there's presentations. There's a vendor hall that is just chock full of really, really amazing art and gifts and an opportunity to meet all the speakers that way as well.

They all have their own vendor table so you can actually get up close and personal and meet Dr. Moria or meet Dr. Mel Drum or any of the speakers that are there. And that's been kind of the highlight of a lot of people that come to the conference is I'm not, it's not for me, it's for the crowd that come and let them get to meet the speakers. Because there's some really, really amazing, you know, information and some good pedigree here. Yeah, I agree. And if you get a chance, go to the international bigfootconference.com. You can see the full lineup of speakers.

And I'm glad I expected Bob would be there, but I'm glad here he's coming. And you know as well as I do. No one cares who you are or what you've done when Bob's around, which I love that. They're like, out of the way. Bob Gindlin's over here. Yeah. No matter who you think you are, you vanish quick when Bob walks in the room, you know. Doesn't matter.

He's amazing. Yeah, he is. I love having to be. So that should be a lot of fun. And what's really interesting about this is the entire cast for the show, Expedition Bigfoot, Dr. Morrea, R.P.G. Ronnie and Bryce, myself. We all have our own things that we come to come to. conferences with. We're all authors or actors or podcasts or that sort of thing. So it's going to be

that one time when the entire cast of Exhibition Bigfoot is going to be right there. And you have an opportunity to meet everyone and ask those questions. So pretty nice. It's um, they'll all be there. And if you look over the speakers list on international bigfoot conference.com, you can look at the speakers. But then you can also look at the speakers. But then you can also look at the guests that are coming as well. I have some special guests that are pretty mind-blowing as well. So a chance to meet people you would normally ever get to meet. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun to hang out. And the Three Rivers Convention Centers, it's a beautiful place for a conference. I've been to several conferences and some of them great, some of them not so great. But

the International Bigfoot Conference says, it's never allowed me down. I always have fun when I'm there. It's relaxed. You get to kind of chill. Meet new people. people hang out. I'm more or less in the vendor section, but, you know, if you want to hear presentations by researchers, investigators, it pretty much has everything. You hang out with Bob Gimlin afterwards. The hotel rooms are beautiful. I stay right there. It's nice to go from the convention center right to the elevator and go right to your room. Is there any more? Yeah, you don't have to leave the building. Yeah, you don't even, you never have to leave. That's right. Is there any more VIP tickets for the VIP dinner?

It looks like, I'm glad you asked because I actually was just looking through that. It looks like Saturday or Friday is just about sold out. There are still a few left on Saturday. If you want to get a VIP ticket for Saturday, there's still a few available, but those are not going to last. There's still vendor space available. In fact, if we run out of vendor space, I have the entire Three Rivers Convention Center so I can always expand and make more room for vendors if they want to come in. This year is going to be an incredible crowd just because of the dynamic group of speakers and special guests that I have.

I couldn't agree more. I can't wait to go. I know we had one last thing on the agenda. Before we close it out, I'll let you take it away, Russ. I've started something here about a year ago, and then it's just starting to pick up steam. And I know you've seen it on the Internet. It's called Corridor 13. the numbers

13 on quarter 13.com and it has a lot to do with like my international Bigfoot conference when you're going to put on an event or a show

a lot of times you want to have the best speakers or somebody that's going to draw a crowd and I've started building a little crowd for quarter 13 it's basically a place where you can go select who you want

to be at your conference We work out of the details of it, and you get a chance to get some of these speakers or motivational speakers, authors. There's a little bit to choose from there, some really, really great people on quarter 13 for anybody who's actually interested in doing an event of their own. So that's something that I've been kind of tying into. I actually have Bob Gimlin on the roster for people that want to get Bob Gimlin to their event or Jim Vieira or there's just a great group of people. I just picked up an author, Ronald Murphy, and I don't know if you've heard of him,

but if you've ever seen an author that can just, he's got some incredible material. He does some script writing for some networks. I mean, this guy's got a lot to share. So you get a chance. Check out the quarter13.com. It's actually pretty cool a way to get these people at your events. Well, definitely check it out. Corridor 13.com. Russell Cord puts on the greatest conference ever in Kennewick, Washington, September 4th through the 6th. Go to the International Bigfootconference.com and get your tickets. Come hang out. I'll be out there. Long list of people. I look down the list of speakers that Russell's having this year. And it's a great, great group of, I'll probably have to break away to listen to some of the,

the speakers. But Russell, I really appreciate coming on. Hey, I appreciate it. I appreciate you letting me talk about the conference. It's going to be a lot of fun this year. Real quick question, are you going to be playing cards this year? Because I never got a chance to sit at the table and play poker with you. I'm still looking to take some of that money. I might. I'll have to think about it. I thought about dragging Woody up this year to it. But last year was so, I was so busy with talking to people. I think I I was to end up talking to listeners that were telling me encounters, and I didn't even get a chance to break away to do the poker. So I was kind of bummed out about that.

I'd like to do it. Let me think about it. I'd definitely like to do it. We had a lot of fun that one year we did it. Yes, sir. Let me know. I'll be ready. Thanks for us.

Hey, thanks again, Wes. Welcome Cliff to the show. Cliff, thanks for coming on. Oh, man, I'm glad to be here. I'm glad to finally talk to somebody about this. Yeah, I'm glad to have you on. I'm definitely glad to have you on. And I know you have had a couple of, you had a very scary encounter down there in Louisiana with what we call a dog man.

But I know there's other encounters we're going to talk about first. I'll let you take it away. Kind of tell us about these experiences. What were you doing? And walk us into what happened if you were. Now, this is in Colorado, correct, Cliff? Yeah, yeah, as far as, yeah. Now, you know, me and my dad and my brother and my mom.

mom. We all grew up, you know, hunting ever since we were, you know, little bitty things. And, you know, it always used to upset me because they always got to go, you know, because you've got to be a certain age before you can go to Colorado and be able to hunt. And I think it's 15 or, I think it's 15 or 16. And I remember them leaving and going, you know, from when I was a little bit of thing. They'd always be gone for about 10 to 12 days. And, you know, I always had a babysitter there. But I finally got older enough to go.

And I guess it was about, well, I was 18. Yeah, I was 18 years old. And we had left and went to the San Juan National Forest there. And I think all of us had a bull elk tag. And then, you know, one of us would always get a cow elk tag. That way we, you know, trying to get some meat, you know, somehow. So, but anyway, we had, we had separated. and, you know, I'm sitting on this ridge,

and we had met some other people that were friends of my brothers because he was an Olympic shooter at right there in Colorado Springs. He was at the Olympic Training Center. And so I think it was one of his instructors or something in his friend. They were there, too. And anyway, I was just walking with my bow and walking down this ridge. and directly to the west of where I was standing there was, you know, lots of dead trees through there, you know,

standing dead trees. And man, all of a sudden, I mean, this was over to win. You know, wind pretty much blows a lot in Colorado. I mean, it's just a constant thing. Kind of like here in Texas, I mean, it blows all the time. So I'm walking and I had stopped and I was glassing and man all of a sudden I heard, it's not like a tree falling. I mean, this was a smash.

I mean, it was like a huge tree smashing up against a no one. It's the best way I know how to explain it. And it kind of shocked me. And so I'm sitting there and I sit down and I'm listening. You know, I'm thinking the old time. I'm not seeing, they never seen anything. But then I heard it again, but it was a little bit further off this time, real loud, real loud. And then a little bit while later, like five minutes later, I heard it again.

And I don't know what it was, not for sure, but, you know, as time's going on, you know, I'm starting to realize these different places they were winning. The different things that did happen, you know, I'm starting to wonder. you know, that's not what it was. I'm pretty sure. Pretty sure now that I sit back and think about it. Yeah, there's always moments like that, especially for hunters, when you kind of look back at weird situations and go, I wonder if that's what that was. But at the time, it's kind of confusing. I would imagine that that would have been loud, you know, a tree slamming into another tree.

I mean, it sounded, yeah. I mean, it sounded, I mean, literally, man, like, I mean, somebody, I mean, there was no way that it was a natural tree, I mean, I've been hunting all my life. I've guided people. I've been guiding people for years and years, man. I take people hunting, I mean, all over. I mean, New Mexico, Colorado, Alaska. And I know what trees sound like when they're falling.

This was not what that was. Without a doubt, that's not what it was. But, you know, when you're that young and, you know, that just goes out, that kind of thought doesn't come to your mind. I mean, you just don't think about stuff like that. Yeah, you're right. But now that I look back to several different places, the other place was up in Meeker, in Meeker, Colorado.

This was the following year. I went up there, and my mom was with us this time. It's me and my brother and my dad. And we all had to act. She had a milled at a matter of fact. She was the only one that got a mule deer while we're there. She killed a big old nine point. But we had separated there too.

went up and dropped us off, and we were going to go do a one-day hike, stay the night, go a little bit, you know, further back where most people don't go. And it was kind of treacherous in a few places because if we'd have fell from this one place, it was probably like a 400-foot drop. I mean, it ain't none of us would have made it. But there was no other way around, but we had been told by somebody else that there was lots of elk over that way. But anyway, we got across that.

and we had separated over this was the following morning because we had just enough time to get over there and set up camp. That night, you know, I had woke up because I was hearing something, something was walking. I was thinking it might have been a bear or something. And my dad was right beside me, and then my brother was on the other side of him. And I'm here.

This is about 2 o'clock in the morning. And I reached over and grabbed my brother's foot, and I shook his foot. And I just pointed to my ear. I'm like, listen, listen. And it was something, whatever it was, was big and walking. But I was thinking, you know, I tell it was padded, that it wasn't, you know, hooked.

There's a big difference. You can tell if you hunt it up, you can tell. And then it would stop. And then you hear it again a little bit later. Well, he just told me forget about it. You know, he just won't just forget. whatever. As long as it don't come in here,

he was not worried about it. And I was like, okay. Anyway, went back to sleep. But anyway, we separated the next morning again. You know, we split up.

And we had a little balky-talkies that, you know, the 15-mileers, the motor roller that way we could stay in touch or even, you know, keep an idea where each of us is at. And same thing, man.

down by a creek and the creek went down and took a 90 degree turn and I had went right there and I'm looking at a whole bunch of fresh sign on the ground and I was same thing I was hearing a bunch of breaking up in the it was you know up from me probably several hundred yards up the slope from it I don't know what it was but I heard that two different times like within a 10 minute span and that's pretty much it. I never, never saw anything or anything like that. But what was odd about that place, even though all the sign was there, we never saw anything. We never saw anything on that side of the mountain.

Dad and them never saw a mule deer. We never saw anything. And usually you could see there's all sorts of stuff up there. I mean, that's a wild country up there now. But when we got back on the other side after we came back, then the snow came that night. It snowed one foot overnight. I remember waking up having to rake the snow off the top of the tent.

And that's when mom come woke me up, and she wanted to go with me. And I was so cold and tired from the day before. I was like, oh, well, I'm going to go out here a couple hundred yards. And that's when she went out and killed that nine points, killed five or four mule deer. I was like, boy hiding, boy. So, but everything was, you know, most of the animals were on that side.

It was just kind of strange, you know, being over there and not seeing anything. I mean, there was lots of fresh time, but there was nothing, or none of us, me and my brother, my dad, never saw anything. How many years later was it when you were in Louisiana and you saw the Luke DeRoe? Oh, six years. This is an end. It's almost the six, six year. almost a six year. Six years later?

Yeah. Yeah. Tell us about it. What were you doing? What happened? Okay. You know, my dad's been, like I say, he's been taking us hunting ever since we were a little bit. I remember going over across the street.

It's what they called the Ted Wolf property. And it's directly across the driveway from my dad's house. I mean, that's where he started us all squirrel hunting. and a little bit of deer hunting, mainly squirrel hunting. But I'd been deer hunting. I took it to a whole other level. That's the only time that the family would ever do any hunting together.

Dad and my brother never did any hunting in Louisiana as far as deer hunting or anything. I mean, rarely. I mean, they might have went a couple times, you know, but I was really in. into it. I mean, I was, if it was day like

Cliff Humpery's was in the woods. I mean, if I had time enough to get off work and get to the woods, everybody knew, that's where I was.

If it was daylight, that's where I was at. But I got up this morning, and my sister had told me a couple days prior to that, she'd like to have some deer meat. And I said,

okay, I'll go across the street and get you one. And she was like, Well, it ain't that easy. I said, yeah, it's that easy. It ain't nothing to it. Because I know where they lay up over it.

I've been over there a thousand times. And every time there's like four or five different spots over there that I could go. And I know what they're laying at. And there's a certain way, if you just keep walking and don't stop. And right before you get to where they're laying up and you stop and shuffling your feet, they're jumping up. They're jumping up and getting it. I mean, so that's how I always shot them.

But I got up this morning, and this has happened to me four or five times before, and it is strange. I can't even, it's beyond strange. But I get up and I walk across the street, and the first thing that I noticed when I stepped over there was it was totally quiet. And when I mean totally quiet, I mean you could have heard a pen hit the leaves. I mean, it was that class, like being in a vacuum. And, I mean, not a cricket, not a bird, nothing. I mean, that's happened to them, like I say, four or five times before. And I was like, well, I mean, is this something you notice right off the bat?

If you ever done much, much hunting, if you've got a career long hunter, I'm sure they've probably seen this once or twice in their lifetime. But they really got to be out there a lot. So I went on hunting, and I wasn't going to be in a stand, you know, over there this time. So I was just, I was sneaking. I was taking my time. And there's a creek that cuts across and it joins another property. It comes over from where there's a big canal that runs right there.

But then you got this creek that cuts from that side, which is the south side of the property. And cuts over to the northeast corner of the property and goes on to what's called the Babs property. And anyway, so I'm walking along that creek, and the creek's probably, I don't know, knee-deep. But there's two old cedar trees or cypress trees that's been over there as far back as I remember. I mean, my dad said when he was a kid, he used to see buzzards out of them, you know, when he's a youngster, because he grew up right there just a block away from my grandmother, and he grew up. and well both of those trees when I mean huge I mean they're seven foot across

and but both of them had fallen during this real bad storm we had a tornado that came through there been one of the only ones that came that close but it came to there and well they're not both of these trees down well they're probably four foot up off the ground you know and they're laying side by side

probably 10 foot apart and I had eased up to the back side of one of them there was fixing to walk down the edge of it and man I caught a wiff of something I'm like my god what is that smell so I'm trying to figure out what this smell is that's when all of a sudden I heard this it was a rumbling I don't know if it was a growl or a a moan is it's kind of hard to explain but it was it was strong enough that I could feel it in my feet I could feel it through the ground and I'm like is that.

And, I mean, it's just rumming and then it'll stop for a second and it started back. So I was there about 30 seconds trying to figure out where this is coming from. And at that time, there's a swamp rabbit to my lap that was about five or six feet away from him that took off. And I don't know if other people heard this, they probably have. They've hunted enough. But they make a certain sound when they're, they're supposed. boots and they take off running. And anyway, he took off running.

And when he took all running, or actually, let me go back. I'm wrong here. As I'm hearing the rumbling, he stepped up. That's when it stood up in front of me on the other side of these trees. I mean, totally black. But I mean, as soon as that happened when he stood up in front of me. And I'm looking, that's when the rabbit took off to my leg. And that's when he turned.

around and look and buddy when I'm telling you massive I can't even it's hard to me to even explain to you how big I mean V-backed I mean monstrous

I mean muscles bounding but when that rabbit took off that's when he turned around to cause the sound of that rabbit I can't believe you didn't hear me when I was walking but I was slipping I was really slipping and that's when he turned around

around and spotted me. And when he spotted me, he laid his ears back. Now, I've grown up

around horses on my lap. I've trained them in cows. That was my chores as a kid. I mean,

putting out hand and training horses and dealing with cows and so, I mean, all the lives. When he laid his ears back,

I knew right then, that's not good. So I had raised my way. And as soon as I raised my weapon, I fixed to shoot him right in the face.

As soon as I raised my weapon, he took one leap west, and I can't stress this to you either. I mean, I really don't care anybody that believes me or not, but I'm telling you, he took one leap straight away from me and covered, I don't know, 20-something foot. And when he hit the ground, took off to my right, and this is something else, is just, beyond all fit, I can't even stress to you. the speed, the speed that he took off in, I can only compare it to a cheetah.

That is my best way I can only compare it to a cheetah. And he took off on all fours. And right before he hit that, he's coming around on my right. So I thought it was fixing to come in behind me. Well, there's a honeysuckle ticket. And the honeysuckle ticket's only about 10 foot wide. So I had got turned around and I said when he comes out that other side, I'm going to try and get him.

When he hit the honeysuckle thicket, I mean going that fast, I don't even know how to tell you how fast, man. I mean, 50 miles an hour, 40, 50 miles an hour. I mean, I'm telling you that's how fast he was going. And when he hit the honey circle ticket, he didn't come out to other side. And there ain't no way possible only on a 10. foot wide honeysuckle ticket, that that song gun going that fast could or not come out to other side. I mean, when he hit the honey circle ticket, it was like he disappeared.

When I mean, when the back of him went into the honeysuckle ticket, he never come out to other side. And right at that moment is when I started back and out of there, I didn't know what was going on because what I just seen ain't supposed to be real. And I'm questioning many things. and I am scared, slap to death, man. I mean, the amount of fear, I can't even stress to you either. I backed my way out of there and super aware of everything that was going on.

I mean, I was already like that anyway, man. I grew up like that. I mean, but, you know, I was really, really aware of everything. And, I mean, I just started backing that. I backed my way out. I'm probably, I was probably 300 people. 54 yards from, you know, the end of my driveway. One of the questions I wanted to ask you was how far away from you was this thing?

And would you describe for the audience what you saw? Man, he was 13, 14 feet from him. That's, I mean, maximum 13, 14 feet. Literally, 13, 14 feet from me. I mean, that close. I mean, you don't mistake anything that close. I'm sorry with. I mean, I'm saying,

guy and I know what I saw and what I saw was just like what's on these movies that's been coming out here lately like the underworld. You call it a dog man, you call it wear a wolf, you can call it whatever. But I can tell you

that's what it was just like usually on the movie, I mean exactly, I wasn't smoking anything, I wasn't drinking, I don't drink, I don't do anything, man. I'll straight up that's what I saw

it was massive man I can't even stress to you the size but when he's fully I mean totally black I mean black cold black and except for

on his muzzle when he turned around and looking he had some white like streaks down the side of his muzzle and man and the canines

on this dude was I don't know, man, three inches long, two inches at least, two and a half inches. And, I mean, when he laid his ears back, that right there let me know, I mean, from growing up around horses, anytime they do that, it's just one thing you know. When they do that, you're fixing to have a problem. But it was like he knew, that's what I can understand either. It was like he knew what that weapon was. It's like he just knew what that weapon was, because I'm not.

I had a 7-Mag with it. I mean, when I picked up at 7-Mag, it was like he instantly knew, and, I mean, he jumped away immediately. And, I mean, had the big, big calves, man, the muscles, I mean, monstrous legs on him. There was no tail or anything like that, or, you know, not that I saw.

But I'm talking about Tainan bottom from his knee down. I mean, no question. what I saw. I mean, there's no question. And, but anyway, the speed, that's the other thing that I can't, this is hard for me to stress to you, how fast, how fast it took off. I mean. Yeah.

And I get reports of them taking off like that. Even Sasquatch, there's reports of them chasing cars and keeping up with cars to them 50 miles an hour. You know, that's hard. That's hard to fast. have them. It is. Whatever this is or whatever is going on right now.

You know, and I'm a perfect, I'm a biblical dude, brother. And if it's one thing that I have studied for 30 years, it's just scripture. My personal opinion is all this is in scripture about all this stuff that people are seeing. But it disturbed me so bad of what I had.

I can't even stress to you, but I mean it bothers me now, you know what I mean? Because this shit ain't natural. This is not natural, not natural. So when he turned and looked at you, I'm assuming he showed you his teeth, as you would describe it. Well, I mean, his mouth was partially open. And he had something out of the corner of his mouth. I don't know what it was. I don't know if he was eating on something or something in his mouth.

I couldn't. You know, this happened in just seconds. You know, I'm telling you, all what I saw was in as far as him in front of him and me a visual on him. And my reaction to his reaction was three to four seconds. Okay, so it was probably more like three. When he stood up, Cliff, how tall do you think he was? I can tell you this. The tree, those two trees I told you was laying in.

Now, he's standing right directly up against the second one, okay? His waist was a foot and a half above that, okay? And I know I'm really looking, really looking up when he stood up. I'm saying close to nine feet in between eight and nine foot. I would say more than eight foot, but not beyond nine. that I cannot describe to you, man, the size. I mean, I really can't. I mean, it's beyond words.

Yeah, I get it, man. I get it. I would have been scared, too, you know. How did this affect you? And did you tell anyone, Cliff? How did it affect me? I put it this way. My family, my entire family, my wife, my kids.

Everybody in my family knew automatically there was something wrong. I mean, I wasn't acting the same. I couldn't hardly sleep the night. I'm pacing. I'm having nightmares beyond nightmares. You know, my dad's, you know, my dad used to chew me out. And, you know, because I worked with him 20-something years in my life. Okay, construction work.

He had equipment operator by trade is what I do. Except for winter months, I just want to do the guidance. He said, what is. the hell is going on with you, son. He said because if it's daylight hours, you're in the wood. Now, he used to chew me out and go, son, there's more important things

in this world than hunting. Well, it totally turned around because I wouldn't even go back to the wood. Al, I got one buddy that I've been hunting with all my life too. Any time we were off, we were gone hunting. Okay. I wouldn't even go with him. I mean, I was

closed off. from everything and in my room couldn't keep concentrated at work. I mean, everybody was asking people at church, people all around were asking, you know, what is going on? And I can't know way. I could tell them.

And no, it was four years before I could ever say anything, anybody, even my best buddy that I've been hunting with all my life. My best friend still to this day. I mean, I finally said something

to him and my mom. My mom was actually the first person that I said anything to. And I said, mom, please listen to me. I said, and do not tell my brother, you know, or dad. And I said, but I want to tell you because me and her pretty close. Me and her dad close too. I mean, her own family's tight, brother. I mean, super tight. But that was just something that I knew was not going to be good when I brought it up. And the first thing my mama said, she said, well, son, what do you think it was? I said, Mom, all I can tell you this is, without a shadow of a doubt, it's an abomination of this world. It was 100% evil is the best way I know I've explained to you, Ma.

That's my, she said, do you think you saw the devil? I said, I don't know if it's the devil, but I can tell you it was something off of him. I said, because that right there ain't supposed to be real. I said, you know, and I mean, I can't already talk to her when I'm sitting here telling her because I'm breaking down. I mean, I'm breaking down, you know, finally getting this load that's been on my back for so long off of me. Anyway, it ended up getting around to my brother and them, and it wasn't good, just like I thought

was going to be. And, you know, they're all, y'all, your own drugs. I mean, I knew that's what was going to be coming. I knew that's what was. so, you know, I never, I never spoke about it with any of them again, but they spread it throughout my family. I mean, to my granny and all them, you know, I mean, I should have never said nothing, but. Yeah, there's, there's a long history of it, though, there, Cliff, in Louisiana. Oh, I know it is. I know it is as far as Scripture. There's a long history of it, a long history of it, and speaks of these very times right here.

I can tell you this with a certainty. It's my personal opinion in far as what scripture says. This is going to continue and it's going to get worse, Wes. There's going to be more people seeing these things. It's going to continue and it's going to escalate to the point of what our government does know is out there. They ain't going to be able to contain this much longer. It's starting to come out now. And all these things are fixing to come to a head.

for too long. They really are. That's my personal opinion. Yeah, I respect that. I think it, I think it's, you know, I don't deviate from scripted, right? It's one thing I have studied all my life, and I can tell you, it even says in there about men's hearts failing fear of what's coming up on the earth. Now, that means like, if people don't understand and start to really study and get in this

background when some people that are clueless about this or atheists or whatever or don't believe in any of the stuff when they see it I mean scripture says they literally go have a heart attack and that's what it says amongst many other things you know and I truly believe that they are far as scripture goes I still think they're part of the the fallen angels and all that but that bred with human women I mean you

can't hardly get, you know, preachers nowadays to even want to go to the Old Testament and understand any of it. They won't preach about it. And I think that's what it's going to take, you know, the boldness behind the pulpah. And, man, that's what I try and do. Now, you know, and it's affecting me. You talk about effect to me as far as work. Once that buddy in mind, I was talking to you previously, you know, or yesterday about

that was in the military for so long. And he was in the scientific and the intelligence part of it, and the team that he was on, the stuff that he had told me, man, and them woods, it's mind-blowing. And that's where I mean. They know what it is. They know what's there. And they ain't going to be able to contain it too much longer.

It's going to come out. It's truly going to come out. would you put Sasquash in that same category as Dogman? I know you're basically... I put all of it. I put all of it in the same category. I put all of that. Yes.

That's all it. West. Scripture, I'm telling you, it's that all of these things are from way back. You know, another thing I don't think people understand is the people before us, just say 2,000 years ago, okay? those people were actually smarter than we are. Now, I know we've gone from horse and buggy to vehicles in flight within the past, what, 120 years. You know, for that to happen in that short amount of time,

when it's horse and buggy for the other 1900 before that and previous before that. But I think those people were smart. I think as we keep going and we keep going, and we keep having children and children are on their children. I think as far as our DNA goes, it's like taking a copy of a copy of a copy off of a copying machine. I think we're getting not as smart as those people were back then

and that's my personal opinion. But I know knowledge, you know, script's talking about knowledge increasing. And it says in there my people will die from the lack of knowledge. anything you want to know now is at your fingertips pretty much anything in this world that you want to know about is at your fingertips i've often wondered about technology too what made the last you know 120 130 years so special to where you know like he said we go from riding horses now we're riding cars and well i can tell you i don't mean to cut you off but

i can as far as that what that buddy of mine told me that was in the military back in 19 50-something we had a meeting with these so-called aliens or whatever, and everything's exploded since then. Now, that's what he told me, and he said for exchange of technology, their request was to take some of us, and the deal was you bring them back the way you took them, and that was the deal.

For their technology to be, you know, given to us, they wanted to take a few people and do experiments their own, but they had to come back just like that was, but they broke that right off the bat. Now, this is what he's telling me now. I'm just telling you what he was telling me. And now that's what he said. And that kind of makes me wonder, you know, everything has exploded like majorly since that time. and now if it's true i don't know but i mean the boy wasn't lied to me and he really trusts me beyond anybody else because we were

best of the buddies before he left for the military and uh he was there almost 30 years and i mean he came straight from the base to me was white as a she scared said he wanted to talk to me and uh want to leave cell phones and all that at home and tell you want me to take him to the woods And for 27 hours, that's what I sat and listened. Before I even told him, you know, any of this other stuff that I've told him, you know, lately. Because he's staying out of contact. I hadn't talked to him since.

But I know that's what he told me and many, many other things about stuff that's going on. And it's really plagued me. And I can tell you how it's plagued me work-wise. It has plagued me talking to that man because I brought up something maybe that I shouldn't have brought up, you know, kind of about this topic. And many jobs that I have went to were they were enthusiastic to have me. I went to the job, told me how much experience I had operating equipment. They were like, you be here in the morning, what they told me. and we'll get you to work.

I'd show up the next morning to the same guy that was in itching to have me. And words out of his mouth, I'm sorry, can't help you, Mr. Humpherson. I'm like, what? Totally opposite. What he told me? Now, this has happened to me four times. Now, this has all happened to me within the past four years. I was in Oregon.

I was up in Oregon up in Oregon up there. And came here. here to Texas the same thing. And, you know. Now, why are they calling you off of it, Cliff? Is it since you talked to this guy? Is there something happening? I guess I'm confused.

Well, I mean, yes, this is all happened since I talked to him. And I just, I happened to be in a certain place. And I didn't know the high level of people that was there that were kind of listening to what was going on. and I think I just said something I shouldn't say because I had a plainclothes guy come up to me that I could tell was, you know, something military or something, and told me that if I opened my mouth about this specific thing that I had opened my mouth up about, that I was going to end up in a CMU and I never see the light of day again. And that scared me.

And that was here in Texas. that happened just here not long ago and I've been having a hard time finding work ever since him because I mean that's happened with me four different times about going to these jobs and they tell me oh man

we can't nobody got that much experience and when I come back it's sorry can't help you miss jump three of them said that word for word so I mean it's really it's really plaguing me this whole situation

but I'd come here mission work and I'm having, you know, I'm working with the church over here and everything about that. And, you know, helping people with scripture and stuff. But I hardly, I rarely, I hadn't said anything to very many people about this, you know, about what I'm talking to you about. And because I'm afraid to bring it up too much more because, I mean, it's really, it's really hurting, man.

I mean. Well, and for the audience who might be lost in this conversation because you didn't go into it and you don't really have to go into it. I've talked about some of the things you've talked about. And some of the things your friend told you that works for the government or was in the military, I know to be true. Some of the comments he made to you, I've never talked about. And I was kind of surprised when he said some of the things.

But you kind of have to be careful with people like that because, A, they shouldn't be talking. And B, if you get... Well, it was bothering him so bad. I mean, and he trusted me. And I know that. And I really do know that. I understand that. But it was bothering the boy so bad.

He had to get it off of him just like I had to get this off of me. You know, because talking about it, really talking about it really unloads a major load off of you, brother. I mean, it really does. I mean, to keep it bottled up, it's not good. Yeah, I hear you. I hear you. And I don't mean in a derogatory way. I just mean you've got to kind of be careful, you know, with sometimes with information.

And I'm more or less speaking to him because you're just bystandard. I'll put it to you this way. And I need to need to say this because maybe you'll understand it a little more than I do. You know, I'm super tight with my family, brother. My mom, my granny, and both of my aunts have passed away in the past. 20 months. Okay. Now, I've had a super tough time

dealing with that, too. But what really hurt me was I was talking to my dad and this was his comment to me. He said, son, I don't want you back around here. Because he said, I don't want you back around the house.

He said, I'm sorry, but you have dropped the ball. You have dropped the ball. Now, whatever that means, I don't know. I have sat and pondered on that a many hour, but he said, you have dropped the ball. You have dropped the ball. Yeah, I wonder what he meant. I don't know. And I've tried to get him to talk about it, and he

don't want to talk about it. I mean, he don't want to talk about it. But that's what that was his comment to me. You have drop the ball, son. You know, and just several other things that happened throughout my life. I mean, and I need to share this week, if I can, if you don't mind. Yeah, take your time. Okay. This happened when I was, okay, 11 years old.

This was September 26, 1982. My mom, my dad's mother was dying of pancreatic cancer. Okay, that's where my daddy grew up. Just a block away from the house. Out in the middle of nowhere, okay? It was all us grownups. I mean, all the grownups, and then there was 24 us grandchildren. Well, she saw all the grown-up people first, and then she saw all the grandchildren last.

I was the last grandchild to go in and say her. And this is what she said. When I walked in that door, this is what she said to me. She said, my baby. She said, baby, she said, I got to go. And I said, what are you mean? Grandma, she went, well, Jesus comes out on the end of my bed just a little while ago and told me I needed to say my goodbyes. And she said, you don't see those two angels standing right there.

And I looked on her. I said, no, Grandma, I don't see them. She said, you don't see those two angels standing right there. She said, their head's about to go through the ceiling. And I said, no, Grandma, I don't see them. She went with her waiting to take me. And she said, I just want to let you know, I love you. And she said, and I'll see you later.

And I walked out of that room, it was that quick. She was gone. Okay. Now, about a month later, and these are four dreams that I've had in my lifetime, but they're not like normal dreams. They're like real life, okay? About a month later, I had a dream about this giant. Now, I'm in my bedroom. I'm in my house, and I'm looking out the window.

It's a giant. I mean, I'll say he was a giant, a true guy. He was kneeled, he kneeled down and was looking under the roof, the eve of the looking at me, and stood up and started walking toward my mom and dad room, which was on the other end of the house. Well, I jumped up and took off down the hall and went in their room. Well, their bed is backed up against that triple pane window, okay? I mean, triple wind.

He got the one big one in the middle and the two side ones on the end. And they had both sat up in the bed and was looking at me, and he was standing right behind him, knelt down looking through the back of that window. And I'm pointing, I can't speak. I'm not able to speak. I'm pointing like, I'm trying to tell him what I'm seeing. And he reached both hands, he was reaching toward the window and went to reach in to grab them. And I woke up.

scared me to death. Now I'm in my 20s, go about 10 years ahead of that. I had the same kind of ring with another giant. I'm in the mountains hunting. And I remember walking over, it was me and a buddy of mine.

And we're walking, and we went to go walk and hear this other giant come walking up. And I mean, I mean huge, brother. I mean like 30 foot tall, 20-something-foot tall. And I remember saying in the name of Jesus, I was pointing at him, and I remember knocking him back.

Okay, then I woke up again, that dream. That's how quick that one was. Then I'm about 36 years old, had another dream of the same situation. I was in the mountains again in a different place, a place that I've hunted before, and here comes another one. And I did the same thing, and he went away. Now, just six months ago, I had one, and it was basically the same thing, but it was a giant wolf.

And I'm telling you not like a normal wolf. This wolf was like a line, but his mane was out of feathers, okay, little feathers. But it went all the way down and then between his front legs. me and my buddy had just killed a deer and drug it. We're in the woods. Just drug this white tail up to this creek where it made a little S turn. And we were taking a break. And that's when I looked in front of me.

I didn't see him in my green, but I knew he was to my left as far as in my dream. And I was looking. I'll see this giant wolf coming. He gets in the creek, swims across the creek, comes up on this side, grabs the deer by the back of the nose. neck.

And this is how big he is. A deer stretched out is about from seven to eight feet from nose to the legs hanging down to the hooves. That's about how long they are, okay? I'm trying to give you an instant how big this thing was. When he bit him on the back to neck and picked it up, his feet was dangling off the ground about six or eight inches. I mean, that's how tall he was.

I mean, monstrous. he jumped back in the creek, slammed back across, got up on the other side, and as soon as he got up on the other side, why I did this, I don't know. But I had my rifle in my hand,

and as soon as he got up on the creek on the other side, I hollered at, hey! And I can't stress to you. I cannot stress to you. How fast he turned and looked at me with that deer hanging in his mouth. It was like a millisecond. I mean, when I went,

Hey, it was like, pooh, and he was looking right at me. And I grabbed my gun, and he turned and looked back where he had come from on this side of the creek. And when I turned and looked, I saw seven more of them coming up over the spoil bank coming at me, same size as he was. And that's when I woke up. Now, that's what happened to me when my grandmother, that was real, you know what I mean? But these drains are not like normal greens, and I've had them in 10 years, almost, you know. What do you think the dreams mean?

I don't, you know, I don't know. I really, I've wondered about that. I think it's things to come because in the dream with the wolf, the wolf one, I knew in that dream somehow I knew it was after things had done went really bad, and it were like having to live out in the mountains away from whatever had went on. in that dream it was like I knew something bad it doesn't happen worldwide

okay I knew that I got you so I have no idea but why it's always been it was three giants short enough giants as far as giants go

in the first three but then it was a giant wolf I mean but beyond a wolf it was like a man I mean he had a mane like a like a line but it was out of feathers you know a little short

white feathers so I don't know with? Yeah, I hear you. I hear you. I hear it's disturbing to have dreams like that. You know, and I didn't mean to come down on you earlier. I've talked to people who claim to be in the military, and they say very similar things, how there's frequency weapons they used to bring them in. That's exactly what I was told.

Yeah, and they'll tell you all sorts of things. And when I used to get information like that, I wasn't sure if it was true or not, but I actually heard it several times over. and I know when I started to really kind of go into the government cover up and talk about some of these things, I get weird phone calls. People tell me, you know, unavailable numbers and threatening phone calls. Hey, listen, listen, I just thought of something I didn't mean to cut you off. Oh, my God, I have got to tell you this. This is what he told me as far as the big feet go and the ones that are beyond the big feet. He told me there's some that are not Bigfoot, but they're 14 to 18 foot tall or something like that.

These are all club carrying. I mean, they always got some kind of weapon. This is what he told me. This blew my mind, but it makes me think about many things that's happened to these different people. He told me their cerebral strength, their mind strength. is beyond what we can even fathom. He said their cerebral strength is crazy. He said, the bigger they are, the more cerebral strength they have.

And he said, they are literally able to do whatever they want to. And they're swaying, because, you know, when he was mentioning this, I'd already heard this from some other people back when they're sitting there swaying back and forth. they are sending some kind of some kind of mental signal to a specific person or whoever that makes me wonder about many things that I've heard many people that said that they've seen that but he said that that is one aspect of them that is unbelievable it's the cerebral strength of them yeah And, you know, I mean, even the Nephilim, if you read some of the ancient writings that was where they got you was with, anyway, and let's hope he's full of crap. And it makes me feel better thinking that maybe he's full of crap. He may not be, though that's a problem. No, I can tell you this.

I mean, the boys, I grew up with him, man, and the boy wouldn't lie, man. That's all I know. And, I mean, that's what's really. the boy would not lie to save his life. I mean, he really wouldn't. And all that stuff that he told me, man, is, you know, I'm starting to see now. You know, a lot of the stuff that he's talking about, I'm starting to really see. It's something.

And I didn't mean it like that, Cliff. I didn't mean he's a liar. Oh, I know that. It made me feel better just, you know, assuming he's full of it because if you really, If it's true, it's more terrifying than what anyone really thought it was. And there's a lot of things. I mean, even with Sasquatch, and I've said this before, Cliff, your average person that runs into a Sasquatch, dog man's a little different story.

Most people run into Dogman will say it's evil and that there, it was not, there's something not right about it. No, man. No. But I think your average person that runs into a Sasquatch sees an animal. They see a Neanderthal. or they see a monkey, not so much a monkey, more like an ape. He told me, and that's the other thing.

You don't mean to cut you up again. He told me with a certainty, there is nothing ape about them. No, nothing is ape about them whatsoever. Whatsoever. Yeah. And I tend to agree with that. He told me that you're part the ones of old, he's, and I don't know what he means. maybe the ones that he was talking about of old or the ones

you know that were of the original as far as like scripture goes what's there now as far as what he was telling me has been amp up and mixed DNA wise and that's he said that's been going on for a long long time and he said but it has got to a science now

that is they can do anything. And he said, there's lots of people going to be starting to see lots of things. I mean, they were telling me some, especially native people. I got native people in my family. I got a piece of Hopi Indian in me, okay?

I had a cousin that went and lived with them for four years and wrote a book on them. Jerry Greider was his name. and, you know, some of the things that he even said, you know, that my mom actually shared with me when I was telling her about what I'd seen. She had told me about, you know, him being over there, what they had told him about the, about the big put. And that they stay away from certain areas of the reservation, you know, that's their area, as he put it. I mean, you know, and I don't know, man, it's just things going to. on this world that's

that's coming out more and more now. I'm glad you're doing what you're doing because, you know, people need to be aware of these things. It's just, you can't just go talk to an average person, Joe, walking down the street

brother, and help them understand that. But I try to do that scripturally, man, help them understand, you know, all that was supernatural. So there's lots of supernatural stuff going on. And I think as we grow, and there's more and more people

on this earth, and we are encroaching more and more people going to these national parks and forest and other places. It's inevitable that you're going to run into this. I mean, that's my opinion why there's more and more.

That, you know, Scripture talks about the thinning of the veil, you know, and I just think these things are that's what's happening. That's what's happening. Yeah, hopefully it's not things to come. I tend to agree with you, though. I think it's going to get worse before it gets better,

and I think that there will be more encounters. I think the part that terrifies me a little bit is I would love to believe that it's a primate, you know, just an animal we haven't caught up with. And the longer I've been in this, I can tell you, I know that's not to be true. There is... No, the DNA, far as the DNA, this has been... done with several different people. Melville will catch them doing that for

David. Another guy there that submitted a sample who somebody else came back. It came back, the mitochondrial came back as one was Native American woman. Go figure that. One came back as European woman.

But the father was unknown in the DNA bank. The worldwide DNA bank they cannot find the match for. So that's I go straight to scripture and I just think that's what it is. I'm fairly certain that's what it is. It's just what it points to.

That's what it points to. Yeah. And you could be right. How could it be in the DNA bank? It can't be. Unknown father on both of them. Yeah. I don't know,

Wes. It's terrifying stuff. But I appreciate, I enjoy talking with you, Cliff. I appreciate you taking the time to come on and share your dog man encounter. and I guess that's the best name for it. But down where you're at, I've actually had a couple dog men shows I've done in that area. With people like yourself who've been hunting their whole life, even a professional game hunter had on the show one time,

he was on the border of Louisiana. And he described very close to what you described. And when he was pointing his gun at it, he said it took off on two legs and it was the fastest thing he's ever seen. And it was just an upright wolf. And he said, There was something very odd about it. Something wasn't right about it.

Demonic, man, my best way to put it. I mean, unnatural as unnatural can be. I mean, that's my best way to explain to you. I mean, I know there's lots of people out there may not believe this kind of stuff, man, but I'm telling you, you know, you don't mistake anything at 13 feet. I'm sorry. You just don't. I don't know, brother.

Again, I appreciate you coming on, Cliff. I enjoy talking with you. Thank you so much for your time. Yeah, I enjoy talking with you, brother. I'm sorry about all the noise around me, but... No, that's all right. Got a family, I understand. All right.

You take care of yourself. All right, you too, sir. I thank you. Thanks, Cliff. And that's it for tonight. Everyone, remember if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatchewat. Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance, check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member

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