Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:628 The Little People

Episode Date: February 29, 2020

Ed from Indiana writes, "Listened to one of your shows tonight. He said he saw a little green man. I had an experience similar to his. I was arrowhead hunting here in Indiana, in the banks of the Ohio River. I had crossed over with a friend's neighbor to the Indiana side. Just caught a ride over with him, and his wife on their boat. My plan was to walk from West Point Ky, back to New Albany Indiana. Well, I mean I started out across from West Point. This was the summer of 93. It was a great day, and I found lots of points. Some places were overgrown with poison ivy, and sumac. I had anticipated this problem, and had food, and essentials in plastic bags, so I could swim, or wade if I needed to. I stopped for about two hours to rest, and eat. I found a small runoff area, that had cut a channel down from the cornfields, to the river bank. So, I'm sitting there, just resting after I had eaten. I was facing south towards the Ky bank just enjoying the quiet of the river. I heard something off to my left,coming through the small willows that grow in a band, along the middle part of the bank. I'm sitting back up in the runoff so I couldn't see what it was immediately. I was thinking it was a beaver at first, they love the young willows to eat. Then around the edge of the runoff, two small "men", for lack of a better word, come walking around the edge of the runoff. It was just like you, and your guest, stated. They weren't green though, they were more like small Native Americans. Not proportioned like a dwarf, or midget, but like a grown person. Say about the size of a four year old child. The one in front saw me, and he made this buzzing type sound, the other stopped when he did this. I say he, because they appeared to be male. In breechclout, with leggings. It was like looking at woodland era Native Americans. He looked at me, made the sound, the other stopped, and the one in the lead just stood there, staring at me, and me at him. Then they just turned and walked away. Not in a hurry, or alarmed, they just turned and left."   Visit www.sasquatchchronicles.com for additional weekly shows and exclusive content.

The Little People Many cultures around the world have their legends and folklore about the little people. My father was and still is an avid hunter. He has heard all kinds of tales through the years of what others have seen while hunting. He said he's never seen anything, but only one weird experience when he was around 17 years old. He was hunting for elk with his father and brothers in Salmon, Idaho, in 1965. They had all split up to chase down an elk her they had spooked by chance, and my dad was sent around the mountain by himself to cut them off. It was a mildly warm day, and he stopped to rest in the shade of some large boulders.

He stripped off some of his gear and had a drink of water. When he sat down to rest, he fell a rock, zipped right by his head, thinking it was one of his brothers playing a trick on him. He yelled at them to stop. That's when he noticed tiny human-like footprints in the soft dust underneath his feet. Another rock was thrown in his direction. Closer this time. Now my dad has always been told about the little people who lived in the rocks and crevices of the mountains and hills. An ancient band of Native Americans who barely escaped from the white pan.

They made their home in the hills. and if bothered, would put a curse on you if you failed to heed the warnings. Feeling a chill creep up his spine. He slowly rose, gathered his sayings, and said in very slow Shoshani, I'm leaving. I'm sorry I disturbed you. As he was walking away downhill, he heard small feet slapping the rocks behind him, but being too afraid, he never looked back. It looked like somebody was bent.

over and had their head in the window of the deer blind. It either heard me or smelled me, and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up, and that shocked me. They don't make people that big. The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach, I've never seen anything move like that in my life. They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language, and they were chuntering away back and forward, back and forwards, back and forward. I know what a bear looks like, and there is no way on this planet, but what I saw were bears. What's going on now, sir?

That son of a bitch is about 6'9. I don't know. Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right in. Uh-oh. Mindy right, and you're listening to Sasquatch Chronicles. Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show planned for you tonight.

We're going to be talking to Ed, and Ed comes to us from Indy. He had a run-in with two little people, and I've had a few of these on the show. They're pretty rare, but I have had people run into them, and a lot of people describe them as being a very small human being, usually dressed in a loincloth or some bizarre, you know, something from the 1800s, 17-100s. usually they're carrying a weapon, very bizarre stories, but it goes back through history, almost on every continent they'll talk about the little people. So it's kind of cool to have Ed on the show tonight. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com.

And if you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Speaking of that, I'll be back tomorrow night for the members. A very terrifying encounter. I think I'm going to name the show The Bear Story. It's a very fascinating account about a family that went out to a cabin and ended up getting run out of there. A little bit more to the story than that, but a very terrifying account. Let's actually jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Ed to the show.

Ed, thanks for coming on. Yeah, I really appreciate you being here, Ed. and I can't wait to get to the little people encounter, and I know that happened in Indiana. Before we get into that, I know there's a couple strange things that happened to you throughout your life that may be Sasquatch related, and we're going to talk about that before we get into your main encounter. These other encounters, did they happen in Indiana, Ed, or did they happen in Kentucky? One in Kentucky. A few things happen here.

Well, tell us about it. Tell us about finding these traffic. What kind of what were you doing and what happened? No, it's Indiana. It's cold here. February, March, and you get the cabin fever and all that good stuff because you've been cooped up. It used to be like holding ponds for a leather factory and it was like dyed water and that sort of thing. There's been holding ponds back there.

But we've ride motorcycles, go back there and shoot, you know, I think, you know, it was, I guess I'm thinking it was 82. I want to do something. so I got out walking around. Get back to this one park. There's like a railroad trestle, and you've got to cross over it, and then you come to one of the holding ponds, and then there's a trail that went off.

And they turned into wetlands since then, but not really, you know, nobody really went back there, except the people that were back, like I said, riding motorcycles, scoops and off in general. I get back to this one trail, and I see, like, a bare footprint

in the trail, because it's muddy and, you know, everything's thorn, it's cold, but things are falling. You're muddy and wet, and I see the track, and I see another one, And I'm thinking, you know, because it's trees in the daytime, 50 degrees maybe, if you're lucky,

then going back down to 20, you know, teens at night sometimes. And I'm thinking, what kind of idiots out here walking around barefoot, you know? So I'm following them, and they go down, like, to the creek bit. Why would somebody with Bearfoot be walking around down here in this creek? Because, like, sort of, it was a rural, rural sort of area. It's a mouth of a creek that empties into the Ohio River. There's glass, you know, beer bottles. They went down to the creek, like, in a pretty steep hill to you, and then followed the creek for a second.

And once they got out to the river, like, went down on the bank of a little bit, and it just wasn't something I was getting into that day. Can I ask you a quick, Ed, how big were those tracks that you found? I mean, compared to, like, a normal... I mean, within the normal range, I suppose, you know, they weren't... Like I said, nothing special about them. But the only thing that was special about it was, it was like the creek's, like, real slighty. around here. They aren't.

I mean, some of them are hard rock creeks. Some of them just full black slate. Like, you know,

and it's sharp and you don't really want to walk on that better. And they go down that hill and went down into that stuff

and then come back up the hill. You know, it was just like, but it wasn't like, I mean, there wasn't like slip marks,

you know, like if you didn't, if you didn't even in boots you to slip. You know, but there was like no slip marks and no, like,

it looked like where anybody dug in to stay. We just went down and, came back up and then just went on eventually, but you're still going to get, you're not going to not leave blood, blood behind that kind of thing.

You're going to leave some skin. It just makes no sense. Someone will be out there without their shoes on. Yeah, it was just, you know, that was really only my odd thing about that. I mean, so I really didn't think of anything about it. But then, like, years later, you know, not really thinking about it.

And he's telling me a story. He says, you saw Blackie. And he tells me the story if they used to play down there. and they'd see like this black shape back in the woods. And so like I told you earlier, this is in the days where you didn't have, like the homeless situation you have now where there's camps in the woods and, you know,

that sort of thing. It was, there might be one guy or a couple guys, you know, and they didn't mess with nobody. But anyway, and then, like they said, if you started walking towards it, it'd take off running back in the fucking wood, or again, my language, sorry, but you couldn't get close to it.

Did he ever describe what it was? Because he called it, what? He called it Blackie? He called it Blackie, yeah. And, yeah, he said it was just like a big, I don't know big, but he called it a big black shape. I guess if your little kid is big, you know? Yeah.

And they said they, you know, they'd walk back. I gotcha. Yeah. Yeah. It was like a couple years later, a little Meringo, Indiana, we decided, me and two of my friends were like, well, if there's limestone taverns that they courted limestone had it back in the day. they use it for

a lot of soybeans now. They take soybeans into the storm until, you know, sail. And they're just huge network of these tunnels that are,

you know, blasted and mined out of the hills. It was what I'm getting at in this one part, this place, I don't know what it was. We didn't stick around and find out.

We just like, did it roar like a lion? Is that kind of what you're describing? No, I mean, just, you know, kind of a pigeon, what,

I probably wouldn't have stuck around either, to be honest with you. No, we just, we just. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely, absolutely. And I know when we were talking before we went on there, he said you were paced out one time.

Was that in the same area as all of this? No, that's in... Oh, okay. Tell me about that. There's a big... It's on the Internet. I'm reading, you know, like, you can go through all of it and break it down. That's all your counties and all that kind of stuff and some of those things.

And so I'm looking at the county, I can't remember the county off top of my head down there, but there's a little town called J-Bazz down there. And whether it was a story or... not, you know, you got to take all the stuff of the grain of salt. Like, even the stuff I'm saying, and I know nobody believes me if I say that kind of stuff, but whatever, I know what happened

and I was there. You weren't. You know what I mean? It's like... Yeah, I get it. But there was a story of this lady feeding them down there. An old lady feeding them down. And in the area where all this stuff, like the patient's... A little credence to that, you actually get into it and you start looking

in some of the places, if you've had something happened to you in some places, then you looked into where you were at and see what happened, you know, what kind of reports they have, kind of, you know, gives you in a little of an idea. Maybe, you know, maybe you saw something. Maybe you didn't. Maybe, you know, or heard, whatever. No, I get what you mean. Yeah. And I think a lot of people go through that, Ed. I mean, there's a lot of moments where, I mean, I have talked to witnesses all the time and they'll go, you know, this one thing happened to me, like being paced out, you know, and they're like, I could never figure out what animal it was. Cougar made no sense, bear made no sense, but I was paced out. Or, you know, having rock stone at you or, and when you start looking into the subject, there is those moments where you kind of look back and go, oh, maybe that's what that was.

You know what I mean? Yeah, well, see, that's the thing. If you were down as it was, you wouldn't heard a squirrel or deer, you know, and you wouldn't hear, like footsteps, you know, you can tell. It's like, and, but then I've been all they start going on with the, deliverance thing and all that all the police down there Hot Woods and August and come up. There's somebody didn't die.

Yeah, I mean, it doesn't make any sense. I think a lot of people try to try to make sense of what happened to them, you know, and what makes the most sense. It must have been someone. It must have been. It's like I tell on the show, people describe their house as being hit,

you know, rocks being, and they're like, it must be haunted. That house might, and I guess that would make the most sense, but the most sense. But the more you kind of look into it, the more you realize, well, maybe that wasn't it. Just like with the whole deliverance, some hillbilly out there,

it's a great way to get shot. Yeah, it was just like, it was crazy what they were telling me. I was like, no, there ain't nobody there. You know, there was 20, 30 camps, and that would, you know, so you'd know somebody was there, but the nearest place was a non-pang.

Well, was there anything else that happened to you down there? No, no. nothing, not down there. That was, I mean, that's, I could go down there. And if you walk down that road is what, you know, usually it was, you were by yourself when it happened. It was never, I mean, my friend was with me that one time, or not one time, more than

once, because I had, I had to, you know, I'm like, dude, we're crazy. Am I hearing this? Is this, you know, and we'd stop, you know, we were making, like, okay, we'll walk, 10 steps, then we'll stop. And we'd stop. And, like, I guess, you couldn't see what was on top of the cliff. and vice versa. It wouldn't a cliff, you know, the side of the road.

You couldn't see up it, and whatever was up there, couldn't see down, unless you came right up to the edge. You know what I mean? Close to the edge where you could peek over. You couldn't see nothing but the, you know, just the cliff and plants and trees. Like we would, like, okay, we're going to walk this far. I had to have him with me to see, you know, that I ain't the one. I ain't hearing stuff.

I'm not making it up. You know, I'm not scared in the woods or whatever you want to call it. But I had him with me and he heard it. You know, he, we'd stop and like other times we would stop. Like, we'd agree to stop at a certain point. And whatever was up there, wasn't paying attention. You know what I mean? He's like, yeah, yeah.

I told you, dude. I told you, you know, because I could, he didn't tell me that was crazy. But, you know, you get that little, like, smirky smile. Like, yeah, right, you know, that kind of thing. Yeah. And then, but when I took him down there and showed him, he was like, oh, yeah. There was what happened when you did that. Yeah.

And it's fascinating, too, though. Ed, you know, you hear a lot of, I mean, I've had guys in the military, on military bases describe that, where when they stop, it stops. When they move, it moves. And every once in a while, it messes up. And when you stop, it'll take three or four extra steps and then stop. Yeah, that's exactly. because we've got to read all stuff you know around with a possibility

but I just can't say it was because I didn't see anything you know what I mean it's a little unnerving to be stalked through the woods I mean I get it completely Yeah it's weird Yeah it's very weird Yeah let me ask you

And I want to get to the little people encounter And that's what was really fascinates me About your whole situation You've had these weird things happen to you But you've never seen a Sasquatch But the behavior matches... There's a lot of people on here that have a lot of things happen to them, man. Yeah, absolutely.

And it's interesting because the behavior matches up to what a lot of people say. You know, and it matches to where what we kind of know what they do, you know, based on eyewitnesses. Yeah, well, it was I said lined up. And, I mean, I'm not... Yeah, I get it. You know, I can't say because I didn't see anything. Yeah, no, I get it. I still appreciate you sharing it, though, because it really does.

come down to their behavior. And they do, they're notorious for doing this, where they will stalk you out of the woods. And it's usually off to the side. It's never really behind you. It's never really in front of you. They'll throw stuff at you. And I kind of think it was one of this.

None of that ever happened. You know what I mean? Like none of throwing stuff, never heard any vocalizations or anything like that, I guess. And she's heard knocks, but not knowing what they were. You know what I mean? That information wasn't out back then. I guess the gray unknown kind of like it is now.

Yeah, it still is. What do you think that Sasquatches, Ed? I know you've looked into it. What's kind of your opinion as far as, what do you think that these things are? I don't think they're the, oh, for all that. I mean, because it's just, I don't know, we're just not in a fascinating subject, you know, but they can go like, and I don't know, man,

all the evidence we really have of it. You know, I mean, we don't have the flesh, of a blood, but we have... It makes the most sense. Evidence. As much as you want to call it, evidence, you know? Yeah. No, I hear you. So you think it's more like a non-human

primate we haven't caught up with, that sort of thing? And there's no wrong answer. I'm not breaking your balls by any. Well, you know, I don't... On that end of it, I don't know. It's a... You know, I'm not a field, or a bowel or anything like that, but from everything that... I mean, it has its characteristics

of the human, I guess, you know? I guess, you know? Yeah, and I don't want you to feel like it was a trick question because it's not at. I mean, there's no, no, no, no, no, because everybody's got their own. No, I hear you. I hear you. Well, tell me about this weird incident that you had. What were you doing? I talk about reality, and here we go.

No, no, no, that's okay. That's okay. And I'm fascinated by it. But if you would, just kind of walk us into it. What happened to you? What did you see? Well, I just got back from Florida And I'd gone to school down there for a couple years And I don't know if Florida's okay

But it's just you want seasons after a while Instead of rain and hot And so I came back to Indiana I started working in a paper company Or paper plate company, you know Just paying the bills, whatever And I take my weekends And I'd go aerobhead

And we still, I mean, I used to do when I was younger Like, you know, well, I'm going to go airhead which we can just be go out and do a big canoe trip, all that. But this time, I had taken my friend, well, not taking my friend, I had taken a car to my friend Chuck's house. It's in Kentucky, but I caught a ride with one of his friends in a boat across the river over to the Indiana side, because that's where you find most of the arrowheads and stuff at. So it's probably, as the crow flies on the river, 20 miles from West Point to Louisville,

which I live across from the little in Indiana. So they take me across and drop me off. I've got my backpack and I've got my shorts because they're going to eat the water. On the river, they're staying beaches. You've got to swim around a big tangle of Poison Ivy or off in, I guess, and, you know, I'm finding an airheads here and there and just walking on the river. So I get up to the spot, and I stop to take a break to get my food out.

It's like in a little cut, you know, and it's nice, it's cool, wind's blowing, and I'm back taking a break and looking at what I found. Not like a bee and not like a bug. I don't even know how to explain it. And I'm thinking, you know, oh, it's a, you know, from far away, some of the boats, like these guys have got speed boats and what I call screw, their propellers. you'll hear them sometimes

before you hear the boat. It's a weird thing, man. Maybe something to do with the water. I travel through the water, I don't know. But you'll hear it sometimes. And I thought that's what it was. I'm sitting there and I'm looking. That's the only way I can describe.

What type, you know, a woodland period Indian. Like I told you earlier, not a midget, not a stunted, you know, nothing. Like if he was six foot tall, maybe six foot tall, not spindly, you know, look thin, but not in decent shape. But it just looked like a person, like I told you to you, he was like, the three foot maybe. I'll look at him.

When he comes up behind him and stops, and then it turned around and went back. And so I don't know, you know, and I say he was the one I was looking at because it was a man. He was naked. He had, you know, like, reach club and like old, old style stuff. like pre-Columbian, I guess you can say? I don't know. It's like the old skin, no cloth, nothing like that, old-looking, like the old style, I guess.

I don't know. And, I mean, he just kind of, that one behind him turned around, back looked at me again, and he turned around back to the way he went, and I'm just like, what was that? Not what was that. It's hard to explain.

The one turned around, went back the way they came, The other one turned around and went back the way they came. Last summer, we went with me. Me and my best friend go, usually we take the... I've never had anything like that happened since. So there's these two things that come out, and you mentioned when we were talking before. They were proportioned, like, well, I guess you said it now. They weren't like, I don't know, midgets.

Yeah, they weren't malformed or they weren't, like, you know, they didn't... I know it probably is not the political correct thing, but they weren't midgets. Yeah. Yeah, they weren't a little person. They weren't floors. They weren't. Yeah. You know, it looks like a, I don't know.

Okay. Like, I guess analogy you could use, like the children of the forest on Game of Thrones, the little people, and they were proportioned like a, you know, grown normal, or whatever you want to call normal, three-foot polish. But this happened to me, like, way before, I guess, Game of Thrones even dreamed of it. They did, but they did. didn't have, like, there's always Apple artists they have on the one of the Game of Thrones.

There's not like that. They look like a, that's what they look like. To me, I mean, that's... Like animal skins they were wearing. Yeah, like the old, like, not like the, I don't know, man, you see the classic, like, breech clout with the leggings kind of thing,

you know, like Easter Indians. I don't know how you all, you know what I mean, but they have, like, a thing here, like what they, I don't know, like what they wore in, oh, dang, I can't remember in there to do you now. But anyway, they're like leggings,

and they got, they're like chaps almost. They didn't have the leggings. I gotcha. Yeah. Can I ask you a quick, a couple things? Were they carrying anything? Yeah, one in the front

had a stick. I didn't see, like, you know, that's a weird thing too. Sometimes I made the remark, we go down there sometimes. And we'll find pieces that, like, somebody laid it down and walked off.

You're talking about sick? Yeah, like if we find an arrowhead. Oh, I guess so. I was thinking, like, if we find an arrowhead, there's times we find them. Like, okay, so they'll be buried, or you'll see just a piece of one sticking out, you know, of the dirt. That's the remark I made was it looks like somebody just laid it down and walked off. Yeah. That clicked in my head today, you know, I'm like, because there's plenty of times we found them.

And it does. It looks like some way it wasn't hidden. It wasn't thought about today. My mind goes weird places sometimes. No, I understand. And the noise that you heard, the buzzing, did it sound mechanical? Yeah, it was like electrical kind of. You know what I mean?

I don't want to say electrical. Not like an electric, like, you know, like a, like a humming, I'll say buzzed, but maybe it was more of a hum. Or mosquito buzzing around you, a high-pitched. It was just like a, it modulated a little bit. It was weird, man, I don't know. Yeah. That's what made me think it was a boat propeller. Because the way it was, you know, like, you'll hear them bite in the water sometimes,

and I thought that might have been what it was. And then it was just like, z-z-z-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-joo, like that. Do you think the buzzing was them communicating? That's what I was thinking, you know, because it was like, it was quiet out there. There's, like, okay, there's boats that go by, yeah. But this is, like, the middle of the day on Wednesday, pay, you know, kind of thing. Like, it was middle of the week because I was off.

And I had a chance to go, so I went, you know, and, like, go by, but you hear them the churn of that engine going upstream, you know, you hear it. It rumbles you when you're staying on the bank sometimes. Like, they're close enough to the bankwards. You feel the engine rumble, won't you? But this was just, like, kind of quiet, but you could hear it. That's, you know, that's only I can make it of it. Because there were any birds, you know, it was quiet.

the day, you know, hot, quiet, everything's down from the day, kind of, you know. There's been a lot of encounters I've had on the show where people are on the forest, and they'll hear like this mechanical buzzing or kind of a weird, what they described as a mechanical sound, but they can't figure out where it's coming from and they don't see anything. And when you had said that, that made me think of a few encounters I've had on the show where they could never figure out what it was. Were the two beings, were they hairy or were the hairless? No, they were like they stepped out of it

They were just kind of like moving along He had the stick and maybe if there was more behind There may have been more behind the other one I don't know Because that one, like I looked at the one in front of me The one behind you looked at me Wasn't no whitens or one no

Like a stand anymore You do this Yeah and I know of we've drilled down enough on it But to clarify for people This wasn't like two little saskwatches you ran into I mean, these were what appeared to be. Yeah. Yeah.

Very bizarre. With dark hair and dark eyes and leather breech clouts. And I didn't notice they had shoes or not because I was too busy. You know, I wasn't too busy. It was just like, I wasn't looking around. You know, I was looking at him. He was looking at me. I saw the one behind him, like kind of, I want to call the one in front of me was a male.

You know, that's what it seemed to me. I don't know. Yeah, no, I hear you. It's trippy, man. It's like, in. It's one of them things. People call you crazy. Whatever.

There is a long history of the little people. The Native Americans will talk about it. And I've had witnesses that have seen them. And a lot of the Native Americans will tell you, I've had Native Americans tell me they're more terrified of the little people than they are of Sasquatch. I remember one guy told me, he said, if you ever find little tiny tracks that look like a kid's track in the woods, It's a little bit different because they're a little bit wider and they look a little bit different. But for the most part, it looks human.

They told me, turn around and go the opposite direction because they will attack you. And I even had a guy in Texas one time. He's an old man now. Not an old man, but he's older. But when he was a kid, he would tell his dad about these little people that would follow him around. And harassed but not really threatened, just more or less harass him as he was out in the woods. and his dad never believed them until one day they were climbing up the side of the house, and his dad saw it through the window.

And they described them the same way, you know, two, two and a half feet tall. Looks like a human being, just a very small proportion to human being. Right. But very strange, you know, very, very strange. And I laughed earlier when you and I were talking. You were like, I thought I was having a heat stroke and... Yeah, man, it was like hot, you know, and that's why I stopped because I'm like, I need to sit down and eat drinks.

It was getting hot and getting midday, you know. And I have been heat stroke before, and I didn't have heat stroke. I mean, I got heat stroke later on down the line. Not that day, but later on down the line, I got heat stroke pretty bad. And I did not have heat stroke. That was, I wouldn't have made it off that riverbank that day because I was alone. Yeah, what do you... When I had a heat stroke, I'd have been done.

Yeah, no, I hear you. What do you think of these things were? I mean, what do you think that they are? I don't know. I'm curious, you know what I mean? I don't know. A snapshot out of time or something crazy. You know, I don't know, dude.

I want to look into it more. I talked to a lady here in Evansville. Well, I'm not in Evansville. She's in Nevinsville. I talked to her a little bit about it. And she had put up some stuff about that. And that's what, but that was a couple years ago. You know, she put, she'd put up a native story,

a historical sort of event happening here in Indiana. And like the tradition, not a tradition, but it's, I don't even will say regular, you know, but it's, it has a, it has a foothold, let's put it that way. You know, there is a sort of a tradition of it here, I suppose. As far as the native side of it, I don't know, because like all the Indians that were around here, pretty much got wiped out and sent to reservations. So we don't, you know, there's nothing, there's no, no source. Yeah, it's very strange when he talked to the natives. Like I said, most of them will say it's very physical. I know we were talking about the Wu earlier,

but a lot of natives will say that they're very physical, but they're not. They kind of go in between. Well, they go. Right. You know, I get it as far as if they're in trouble. They didn't give me no trouble that day. I wasn't in a position to, like, went to fight with them, you know, if that came back.

But that crossed my mind because it was just like, I'm sorry again about my language, But that's all right. That's just when that, you know, I'm sure same feeling when they've seen and sad stuff happened to them, you know, what the F. It's fascinating, man. And I don't know what those little things, those little people are. Like I said, if you do research on them and do start looking online, start talking to Native Americans, it's very similar to what you described.

They always, they're wearing animal skins. And a lot of times in Native Americans, we'll talk about them. having spears and poison on their spears to kill you. Yeah, I guess you don't need a point if you... Yeah, so it makes you wonder. I mean, I would love to go walk around that area and see what you can find. I don't know if you'd want to come face to face with one. They probably figured you weren't worth the trouble and turned around and left, but it's bizarre.

It's very bizarre. I mean, Sasquatch is bizarre, too, but I mean, these little people... We'll see that, like, I don't know, man, that. I mean, I believed in the Satchwatch thing before that. But we've never, you know, like the stuff happens so often frequently here. A lot of people won't talk about it. Everybody's, oh, you're crazy, you know, or that's the main thing. You're crazy.

You know, you're messed up in the head. You know, you're going to bed, whatever. You know, those sounds down to it. You have seen what you've seen. And you know what you know, stay from you. There's nobody can take that away from me. You know what you saw. You know what happened.

They don't. Yeah. Maybe one day you'll find out the hard way. You know, I don't know. That's true. It's true. It's, uh, it's fascinating. I mean, especially the little people, man. I find it fascinating.

It's hard to find people who've actually run into them. I have had a few on the show, but, uh, they're not. People don't want to talk about it, dude, because it sounds, you know, and I thought that, too, just folklore. You know what I mean? It's, it's, it's folklore. It's not real. You know, the thing of scary tails, put the kicks to bed at night and all that stuff. It's a weird, it's a weird subject.

Yeah. I haven't really, I haven't really checked into it anymore after that, you know, because there's really not, that one lady, she put out a big thing about it, really know. You know what I mean? They can say, well, this is what happened, but they don't really know what happened. A thousand years ago, you've done, you've done, about that. Didn't you do a thing with a snake mound with that one guy? Yeah.

Yeah. And I haven't been up there. That's an show of coffee. It's not very far. I've never been up there. Farming and, you know, there's just miles and miles and miles of cornfield and soybean fields. I don't know if you were in Indiana, corn and soybeans. Yeah.

So all that stuff got erased with collections. And none of it's here anymore. And that's why it's hard to believe any kind of thing they say about that because they don't really know. Yeah. They have to be here or what could have been. It's a very strange world, man. I think there's more out there. than what most people realize, you know, like the dog man, a lot of people laugh at the dog man,

but I have to talk to enough eyewitnesses as to where I'm convinced that's out there running around. Same thing with a little... I don't know, man. The jury's kind of out on that one with me because I don't... It's stories of me. Right. You know, I hate to discount it, but it's... Some of the things they're saying is just like the whole hoax thing about wrenching the gears for me,

that it's not real, you know? Yeah. There's people saying it is real, and here I am saying something that sounds crazy. No, I hear. It's uncomfortable. You know, when you start running, people start talking about these weird things they run into, and it's uncomfortable. You know, it's like Sasquatch. It's very uncomfortable when people start talking about lights that they see around the same time they're seeing Sasquatch.

Or, you know, where they see the eyes glow. And I'll ask them, was it eye shine? And they'll say, no, it wasn't I shine. These were glowing eyes like a light bulb. it's uncomfortable to talk about that stuff, but you almost kind of have to if it's consistently happening. And I don't mean like on every encounter, but I mean, if one person tells you... If it's a... And you hear it repeatedly.

Right, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. But it is fascinating with... Speaking of lights, start to cut you off. They go down there pretty regular, and you've talked about these lights in the woods thing. You know, I've heard much about that, too. well they were sitting in their camp one night

him, my sister, and two of his friends, I want to call it, or if I didn't see it, I wasn't there. They swear up and down. Three of them saw it, one guy didn't see it because he was okay.

Or both of the guys with him aren't liars. I mean, and my brother and all, my sister tell me something, I believe it, you know, there's no melting and stuff down there. There's places called Magnet Lake,

this and that, you know, it's a huge property, that's for sure, though. I was thinking what goes on down there as far as light lives could be like all that iron and stuff that's in the ground down there you think it does well do this for me ed i really appreciate you coming on and and

sharing your little people encounter um let's no problem man yeah let me know if anything else ever happens to you out there and um well i'll try if we get as much as we can and yeah like i said there ain't no telling when something's going to happen yeah no i hear you obviously but i really appreciate sharing the little people encounter like i said that I've had a few on, but they're very far and few between, you know what I mean? Yeah. In contact with that one. Just to talk to me.

Yeah, I will. I will. Thank you again, Ed. I appreciate it, man. And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. If you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows.

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