Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:727 They Took My Flesh

Episode Date: January 25, 2021

On this episode, we are joined by Tony Merkel from The Confessionals podcast, who will be our Sasquatch Chronicles guest host, while Wes hosts an episode of The Confessionals for Tony as part of this special swapcast! Tony brings guest Michael to the show, who shares with us all about a life riddled with unusual experiences pointing to him possibly be an alien abductee at the age of three. Michael was visited by entities at that time, and later came to understand that they were Grey extraterrestrials. He lays out a series of events which followed as he grew older that sometimes left him feeling so terrified he was afraid to go to sleep at night. The feeling of ice cold hands grabbing him eventually became a tell that alerted him he was being attacked. Once while he was sleeping he found himself in a type of sleep paralysis state from which he could not awaken, and all the while he felt like something was peeling the skin off of his feet. When he finally came out of it, hediscovered he really was missing chunks of skin! Michael also describes another instance when he felt the ice cold hands grabbing his ankles and pulling him off his bed, only to drag him down the hall. What happened as he was being dragged is hard for himto describe or understand because it seemed like he was being taken into a whole other realm. Michael shares as many bits and pieces of these abduction events as he can remember on this week's swapcast episode, 'They Took My Flesh.   If you want o hear me on The Confessionals, come listen to at https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/theconfessionals/307-billy-the-kid-the-man-who-died-twice  

It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind. It either heard me or smelt me, and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up. And that shocked me. Nope, nope, nope. Not today, German. Not today. Underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappear. He came over to me.

Dude, he slithered over to me. The giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing up this giant. With a giant moves, he's got a spear in one hand and he's running really fast. And spears Dan holds him up like this. Somebody else, shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face. They basically decapitated. Feel something and I look over and there are two small.

Because I know I'm seeing it. Welcome to the show. You're listening to Sasquatch Chronicles, and I'm your host, Tony Merkel. Thank you for being here. You might be wondering where Wes is at. He is not playing sick today. He's actually doing my job on the Confessionals, and I'm doing his job on Sasquatch Chronicles, and that is what we call a pod swap.

Now, what is the Confessionals? The Confessionals is a podcast where everyday people come forward to share their wild experiences with the paranormal. We do everything from your traditional paranormal hauntings to UFO, alien abductions, and of course, we talk Bigfoot encounters as well. If you want to check out that show, the Confessionals podcast, it's on any podcast playing app. And if you've never heard of me before, we have over 300 episodes sitting there waiting for your listening pleasure. Go ahead and check it out and subscribe so that the Merkel kids can have a Christmas in 2021. If you want to follow me on any social media platform, you can do so.

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subscribe to Hammer Lane Legends. Now, if you want to know what Wes is going about in my show, let me give you a hint. Billy the Kid, the Man Who Died Twice is the name of the show. This is a show that Wes has been planning for years. He's always wanted to talk about this and he's finally going to do it and he's doing it over on the Confessionals right now. So after this episode, go ahead and check that out. Billy the Kid, the Man Who Died Twice, Episode 307 on the Confessionals podcast. And let me just tell you something real quick. I did an episode called the Spider Crawl, episode 299, where I interviewed two ladies and the second lady came on and talked about this monster-like experience she had out in the Great Northwest. She talked about basically a big foot

that she came across. She wasn't comfortable calling it a Bigfoot because it was really outside of her vocabulary. But what she described is exactly what we hear West describe in his own personal encounter the way these things move. She described it just like he did. And here's the kicker. She never heard of Wes Gimmer. She never heard of Sasquatch Chronicles before talking to me. But what she saw is exactly what West described in his own personal encounter. So if you want to check that out, episode 299 on the Confessionals podcast is a great episode for you to start on. If you want to hear somebody else relay a very similar experience to what Wes experienced way back then in the beginning of time when they didn't even have ice cream. I'm just kidding, Wes.

You're not that old. But you're getting up there, my friend. Now, this special episode of Sasquatch Chronicles has absolutely nothing to do with Bigfoot, but nevertheless, I thought you might enjoy it. We're going to be talking to Michael today, who has been dealing with a paranormal UFO ET abduction type scenario since he was a little child to the point where he's missing pieces of flesh off his body. He's been drug out of his bed down a hallway through almost like another dimension. Very interesting conversation we have with Michael today. And I hope you enjoy it right here on Sasquatch Chronicles. Let's get to Michael right now.

All right. Today we got Michael on the show. Michael, how you doing, man? I'm good, man. How are you? I'm doing good, man. I'm doing good. All things considering.

The world is kind of falling down around us. But we're here still recording right now, at least. Michael, man, you have some interesting experiences of the ET kind, and it started out early in your life. So I just want to hand it over to you and let you kind of take it away. And where did this all start for you with having these encounters? Well, man, I grew up in this tiny little town outside of Memphis, about 30 minutes away. And, you know, it was back in the early 80. I was born in 80 and there was a house that we had lived in.

And it was right there kind of in the center of this town. And it was the summer of 83. And my dad used to work night shift and my mom worked day shift. And, you know, so they're always taking naps and this and that. But their bedroom had this window, and I can't remember the name of these windows, but they're usually in kitchens. And they're like three different separate panels, and they pop out of the actual house. And anyways, they had decided to take a nap, and I was laying with them in their bed. And I don't know what woke me up.

I don't know if it was the light because it was so intense. sense, but I woke up and all I could see is this bright red light that filled the room, and it was just everywhere. I mean, I don't know if you've ever seen, like, after a tornado heads or something like that, but everything's really pink and red around sometimes. That's exactly, like, it was almost like the sky was projecting this color into the room, but when I woke up and I noticed the red, I also noticed these silhouettes

that were lined up on the border on each side of the bed except for the top. And I had no idea what they were. And I mean, like I said, I was three, and I had no idea what they were. I couldn't see their faces. I was like I could see with the shapes. And to me, they look like light bulb,

for heads, you know, and I couldn't really tell with the bodies because they were shoulder to shoulder. And what's weird is I was just sitting there and looking around at these things. And it was almost like they were having conversations that were mixed. But it was in my brain. It wasn't like oral or vocal at all. It was just all up in my head. I could hear it. But the thing was, it was all cluttered.

Like, if you go into a cafeteria sometimes, and there's a bunch of people in there, and all these conversations get mixed together. But the gist I got from it was they were studying me, like, for whatever reason. But it's almost like they were there to, like, I don't know, give me some sort of interview. you without me responding, but to see if I was able, capable of fulfilling the needs that they wanted. And I just sat up and I looked at it, and my mom and dad were passed out. I still remember looking over at them. They were still passed out.

And I was just sitting up. And, you know, they stayed in the same spot the whole time. And I was terrified, Ben. I mean, I was, like I said, I was three years old. I didn't know what the, I didn't know what it was. And the next thing I remember is like two or three days later. And I don't remember going to sleep, laying back down. I don't remember, you know, like the light didn't get sucked out of the room.

It just stayed there. And I was just asleep. And that was basically it for that situation. Wow. You saying about being three years old kind of hits home to me because I have a three-year-old. So when people would say to me before having a three-year-old, before having kids and stuff, people would tell me their stories and they say, I was about two, I was about three, I was about four. And I really didn't have a good gauge as to what the mental capacity was at that age because

I didn't have kids and I really don't remember a ton for my childhood, let alone two or three years old. I'm probably fortunate that way, judging by your experiences. is. But now that I have a son, that's three, now, granted, people keep telling me that he's really smart for his age. Like, he speaks incredibly well. He's also the size of a four-year-old, so maybe his brain's bigger. I don't know. But it's funny. But if he experienced such things, I think he would remember it. And I think hearing your story, and I'm picturing my son doing that in the bed, I can totally see it, man. Now, when you said that, you felt like they were trying to almost like interview you as if you were going to be what they

needed. Did you ever get a sense as to what they were looking for? I didn't, man. I had no idea. You know, I mean, like I said, everything was so, there were so many voices going off at the same time. And I mean, I don't even know if they were speaking my language. It was just a lot of murmur at one time. And, you know, the reason I remember this is because I remember it vividly. And, you know, it's just something that stuck with me my whole life. And that's where everything started. But yeah, man, I'm not sure what they were after.

But it seemed like they were consulting with each other to kind of figure out what they were going to do with me. or, you know, whatever, you know, whatever they thought they were going to do with me. I'm not really sure. You know, I can't really say for sure what they were coming after. But, you know, that's basically the first experience. And I might be jumping the gun here. And if I am, just tell me. But do you ever get the sense that there was more to the story that you just don't remember

as in maybe an abduction or something like that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because like I said, man, the next memory I have, we lived in a duplex. And there was an older kid next door named Adam. And he wasn't really popular with other kids, but he was about 10 or 11. But he had always spent time with me. He had hang out with me when I was a kid.

And the next thing I remember is he was hit by a school bus. And he was a quadruple. allergic after that. And that's the next thing that I remember after all this. I don't remember anything in between just that happening because I remember my mom or me asking my mom. I was like, you know, where's Adam? And she was like, he's in the hospital. He got hit by a school bus. And I was like, you know, three. So I didn't really know what the extent of that was. But yeah, I think there's lost time there for sure. Okay. Yeah, because, I mean, just the way you

described the story and stuff, it sounded like maybe there was more to it that night that you just don't remember. Yeah, definitely. All right, well, I'll let you carry on. Tell us these experiences, man. I'll try to shut up. Oh, you're fun, man. When I was about eight or nine,

my mom, she went through this surgery, and she stayed home a lot. And I tried to be there for, I would even skip out of school, even at nine, you know, just to take care of her because it was a pretty bad surgery. And we were laying in her bed one night, and my dad was in the living room, and my brother, he'd just been born. And he was just a tiny little baby. He was already asleep. But we're watching Unsolved Mysteries.

And this is back when Robert Stack was on Osolm Mysteries. And, you know, we were laying there and watching it. And this episode came on and it was about alien abductions. And when they started showing pictures, they referenced Betty and Barney Hill a whole lot. But they started showing pictures of grays and it just snapped in my brain. I was like, that's what I saw. Because the shape and everything, I was like, that's exactly what I just knew it. Like, it sent chills down me.

Like, it terrified me. especially after I started watching the rest of the episode and what they do with people, you know, or what they've done with people. And it's really strange, too, because like I said, my dad was in the living room. And from where I was laying on the bed, I could see out of the bedroom door and the hall is completely black. and as soon as this episode's over my mom's pretty shuckin up too you know she's always kind of believing that stuff but

I look out in this blue I don't you know I barely saw it but this blue thing just moved slowly across the walkway or across the doorway so I only saw it for a split second and it was big

I mean it was bulky and it was it was a big whatever thing or person or entity and it scared the hell out of me and it was just you know that that unsolved mysteries kind of put forth in motion i started going to the library and checking out all the books i could on UFOs and abductions and even bigfoot and other paranormal stuff like polter guys and this and that and I mean, I used to get made fun up because I was a weird kid, you know. I was the only person that's reading books on UFOs and everybody else has given me a hard time about it.

And I'm just like, whatever. But not too long after that, my dad was working at a fabrication company in Memphis called Southern Fab. And me and my mom and my brother, we would ride up there to pick him up because sometimes we needed the car to go get groceries or this and that. And I remember sitting in the back seat and I was still like in a, like a booster seat, I guess. And I don't even know if they had those back then. I'm pretty sure I didn't have a booster seat.

I was probably just sitting in the seat with those seatbelt on. But I remember looking up and I see this giant silver, blint looking thing. And there's no lights on it. I mean, it almost looked like. over like from the Star Wars episode one, two, and three where they have that ship that Amadala and Anakin ride back and forth on. It had that chrome type deal to it. And I remember looking up at it and it was just hovering there. And, you know, me being that

young, I didn't know what to say about it. I was just fascinated. I just couldn't quit looking at it. And I had no idea what it was. But, you know, when I think about it now, like, I mean, it was something that definitely wasn't an airplane or anything like that I've ever seen. It was just so metallic that you could see, like, the sun, like, blaring on it and bouncing off sun rays. I mean, it was nothing like I've ever seen. And that was the only. UFO really like

unless we consider well and talk about and a little bit but that's really pretty much the only UFO experience I've ever had like actually seeing a UFO

and you know I started I remember going to the library and renting the Betty and Barney Hill story and because I had read about them

and seeing this movie I mean, it also put a lot of stuff into perspective, but it made me feel like these things they might not be good, you know, especially listen to the

higher entities thing. I mean, that episode put a lot of perspective, you know, put things into perspective for me. And, you know, maybe these things aren't,

you know, cosmic or universal maybe they're like interdimensional or you know just like the guys we're talking about on the episode the incantations they were doing

and ripping a time in time space and bringing these evil entities through and it just seemed like every everything I saw or read about these grays they were terrorizing people

and they were leaving them with like horrible, like suppressed memories and just things that they did to them and anyway, so I'll get off that, but I mean, the next thing I was going to bring up

as my grandmother, she actually lived in Beijing when the riots went down with the tanks back in the day. And she's the sweetest person. in the world. She's like so super open-minded. And I didn't know who to talk to about this stuff.

And I was like, hey, maybe I can talk to my grandmother about it. Maybe she knows something. And she told me a story. And the house that we were living in when all this happened was right down the street from the house that she lived in and raised my dad and his brothers and sisters. And I was like, you know, Memo, you know, do you believe in UFOs? And she just kind of stood there and looked at me. And she was like, you know, why are you asking you that? And I was like, well, I think I've had some stuff going on

and I don't really know to talk to about it. And she set me down and she told me, and this had to abandon the mid-70s. but there used to be this bush out in the front of our yard, and it was there even when we lived there. But she said that she had taken my dad, his sister, and his two brothers somewhere, and she was bringing them back. And when she got back, she got my dad and my sister or his brother,

and the youngest brother was so young that he was in a car seat. and when she walked around to get him out, she looked over at this bush and it had this really thin disc just hovering over it, like just hovering. And it wasn't going anywhere. It wasn't, you know, fluttering. It was just there, you know, not making any noise or anything. And she grabbed my uncle John, which was the baby, and she took off inside. So she let me know that, yeah, I really do.

believe in things like this. And it kind of made me feel a little bit better. And, you know, kind of let me know that I'm not crazy or not the only person out there, especially since it's my grandmother. You know what I mean? I trust her more than I trust most people. So, yeah. But, I mean, it's fast forwards after that up until I'm 21.

I mean, it was that big of a jump. And I, uh, I, uh, I had, uh, I was out skateboarding one day with some friends. And I tried to do some move that I totally shouldn't have done. And I rolled my ankle really badly. And, uh, I had to go to the ER and, you know, they wrapped me up and told me, they gave me pain pills. They were like, hey, you know, go home, take it easy. I was like, all right, whatever, you know. And my mom and my dad, I was still living with my mom and dad then.

And my mom and dad left for work, and my mom left, you know, the pain pills next to me, so I wouldn't have to get up and get on myself. And I was like, all right, you know. And I only taken a couple of them, so I know I wasn't out of my mom blitzed, you know. And I was on this couch. And it was in the living room. And we had wood floors. And I remember rolling over on my stomach because that was the only way my foot wasn't throbbing.

And I would elevate it with my, if I bent my knee up, if that makes sense. Like on my stomach, I bent my knee up and I put my foot on the side of the couch. And the next thing I know, man, like not even a minute or two after, I did that. Everything in my body just went numb, like completely numb. I couldn't feel anything, but my mind was awake. And I was telling myself, I was like, move, you got to move, man. And I feel these cold hands, like, that's the only way I can describe it.

These cold, cold hands that grabbed my legs and, like, forcefully were holding them down and it had to have been, you know, some sort of sharp object, but they started cutting under my toes, like where your toe bends on the bottom. And I felt the pain. I mean, I felt everything, even though I was, you know, in this weird paralysis state, but I felt like I could tell what they were,

or what it or they or whatever was doing. and I was trying so hard to wake up and I couldn't. And even though I couldn't see because my face was basically in the pillow for me laying that way, that I could tell there are other things there. I could hear it. I could hear pitter-patter's because we had wood floors. And I just felt a felt presence of some other people or some other things. And I tried so hard. I kept telling myself, I was like, Michael, wake up. Michael wake up. And I kept

waking up, but I was waking up into other dreams, other realms or realities. And it was like, oh, you're awake. And then I'd realize that I'm not awake. And that went on for, man, it had to have been like 30 minutes straight. And as soon as I snapped out of it, I like jumped up off the couch. and I didn't even check my feet at all at the time. I was checking the house because I was like, what the hell is going on here? I'm the only one here. Why am I hearing other things here?

And nothing. There was nothing there. And I called my friend Brian. He used to be in this band, and Brian sang for us. And I talked to him because he was the most open-minded friend that I had. I was like, dude, you will never believe what happened. He's like, well, tell me, man. And I told him. And he's like, oh, no, that's stupid. That doesn't make any sense, you know.

And I was like, well, I can show you, you know, because I was actually looking at my feet while I was talking to him. And they were like giant chunks of skin missing from under my toes. and I honestly don't know what someone would want from the skin under my toes, you know, but that's just what happened and that's that. You know, I try to talk to him about it and he basically shot it down, so I never really talked to anybody about it anymore, you know? People just, they judge you and they think. you're crazy.

I mean, I know I'm not crazy. I'm just, I went through this thing. Like, like I said, I could feel their hands. Like, you know, I couldn't feel fingers or anything, but I felt things that were wrapped around my ankles that were holding them down. And they were cold, like super cold. Like, if you put your hand down in the snow cold.

And that was the next thing. that happened. I mean, I know that was quite a jump from when I was a child, but and the weird thing is, and I know I told you this in my email that I had

problems with pain meds and stuff like that. And that's where it all started, man. I mean, from that day, my life went downhill because I just started, you know, taking pain meds all the time and just, you know, I don't know if that experience had anything to do with it, but it just, it shook me to the core, man. It really, I mean, I was having nightmares and it just really messed me up. And it terrified me.

Even like when I was younger, like that stuff still terrified me. And it, you know, I know a lot of people have crazier stories than mine, but it just, I mean, to this day, I'm super terrified to talk about these stories. But I had to get them out. So I guess we'll move on on. getting caught up here. Well, I'll tell you before you go any further, that that kind of experience very well could push somebody into, you know, addictions or just a different lifestyle.

And I've seen it myself. I mean, I've told the story in the show a couple of times where I had that experience where I went to that guy's house that was a practicing member of the Satanic Church. And he tricked me going there and the whole experience. When I left there, I was changed. And I didn't understand what was different about me, but my spiritual life went down the gutter very slowly. It was a slow progression.

But about your friend not, you know, kind of believing you and you thought he kind of would, I would say that people, when they are scared or they don't understand something, their natural reaction is to say that can't be true. Because if it is true, it means that they have. have to personally reassess and re-judge how they view the world around them. So it's easier for people to in fear or in the face of something that they don't want to be true to dismiss it, because then they can move on and watch the next NBA basketball game that night. You know what I mean? So. Yeah, true that, man, true. I would encourage you and other people not to be discouraged

when you have that kind of rejection because it says more about them than it does you. And it's not even a bash on them. It's just they don't understand and the natural reaction is to run away from that and saying, it can't be true. It can't be true. Because if it is true, it means that they're going to be staying up all night thinking about what reality is. Yeah, I promise you, he stayed up all night

thinking about that, even though he tried to play it off. I know he did. Because he was the one guy that was the most open-minded kid out of our group. Sorry, our 12 o'clock sirens going off.

That's all right. That's all right. But anyways, yeah, he was the guy that I was the closest to. Like, you know, I met this guy. He was a few years younger than me. And I was like, dude, you got a voice on you, man. Just come sing with us. And we had always been that close. And, you know, when I called him and told him about it, he was just like trying to come up with logical explanations, you know?

And I'm like, the kid that is always talking about lucifige or, like, Lucifer on, like, just straight up satanic this or that or aliens put us here on this earth, like, as an experiment. Like, that guy didn't believe it, you know? And I was just like, wow, okay. But, yeah. my next incident with an alien or third or fourth gun

was I think I was about 26 I just moved back from Nashville and I started dating my high school sweetheart again and we moved in together in this fairly old

apartment complex, but they were like really vintage looking. You know, it wasn't your typical apartment complex. They all had like cool windows. You could tell they were built back in the 60s or whatnot. They had wood floors, but the wood floors were so old that they were scuffled really bad. I mean, if you drag your foot across the one board, you're going to get a giant piece of wood in your foot. And I say that because what I'm about to tell you, it just doesn't make sense to me, but I know what I felt. And anyways, we were sleeping one night, me and her, and once again, I was on my stomach.

It's hard for me to sleep on my sides of my back, but I was on my stomach. and there was a footboard at the end, and I used to, I mean, I'm 6'1, and she is way shorter than me, but I don't always rest the front of my feet or my ankle, the front of my ankles on this footboard, and I remember going to sleep that night, and the next thing I know I filled these hands again or these whatever it is that wrap around my ankles except this time i was pulled out of the bed and i mean they yanked me out but i didn't feel any of the pain like i know my chin and face were drunk across the floor or the uh footboard i know my face hit the ground which definitely would hurt if I was away.

And I was being drug down this hall. There was a long hallway. It was like a bedroom and you go out to your left and then you take a right. That's a long hallway. And I remember like

my chin bouncing, you know, like when you drag something that's rubber or something, it'll bounce like as you're dragging it. And my chin was doing that. And I was, you know, Like, I couldn't move this time either. So I wasn't trying to claw my way away or trying to stop these things at all.

But it just, that happened for a minute. And it seemed like, and just instantaneously, like, in a second, I was on a different floor. And I was being drugged down the hall. And I'm talking about, like, if you've seen, I know you've seen. fire in the sky where they find out he's snooping around and they drag his you know they drag him down the hall and uh that's what it was like man it went from wood floors to some metallic like really cold floor and um that's when i started to get movement back in my hands and i remember like i couldn't claw the floor but i could smack my hands down like trying to cause some sort of friction and this

this floor was so cold, Tony. Man, it was so cold. It was ice cold, just like their hands. And after that, I don't remember anything else either. I mean, there's more lost time there. And it just, you know, I remember waking up the next day, and I was in the same spot that I was when I went to sleep, but I was on my back.

And I can't sleep on my back at all. like ever, because I don't, I don't breathe right when I sleep like that. So for me to be on my back like that was just, it was weird. I think that's actually what woke me up, you know? And that, I mean, that really, me talking about it now, just, it, it terrifies me, man. Like, nobody wants their house invaded. And, you know, I'd rather be drug out. and my kids or my fiance

for sure. I'll take that over anything any day, but I just I don't know what these things or these entities or whatever people call them are capable of, but all they've done is strike fear in me

for my entire life. And I'm just, you know, I can't even go in the basement sometimes because I feel like I don't see, but I feel like there is something there that I can't see, but I feel it like a six sense like it's there.

And it's just, it's horrifying, man. It is crazy. It really is. But I guess, you know, I'll give in to the screenlight thing real fast. And I was, there's a town. in Tennessee called Arlington. And it's about 15 minutes away from where I lived, but it was out in the country, you know.

And it was New Year's Eve, and this was back in, it had been when I was 32 or 33, so that would have been like 2012 or 2013. I think it was actually the New Year's that separated 2012 and 2013. And I had a dog named Stella, and she was a rescue. But everybody was celebrating upstairs and drinking and this and that.

And I was still smoking cigarettes, so I walked down, and Stella followed me everywhere. And I walked down, and this place that we were at was my ex-girlfriend's parents' house, And they had lakes and just nothing but a bunch of open space, you know. And their closest neighbor was about a quarter of a mile, but you could still see his house. There was nothing blocking, no obstruction or anything. And I walked outside and I lit my cigarette and I wasn't really looking around. And Stella started acting where she was jumping around in circles and, like, growling rollo, but like kind of welping. too, you know, like she was scared and she was weaving in and out of my legs, like, hey,

something's going on. And I look up, Tony, and I swear to you, like, the house that was about a quarter of a mile away, there was this tiny little green speck at first. And I was like, oh, that's weird, but whatever, you know. Well, this green speck, I mean, it had to have been going so slow. But have you, you know, like, in spy movies, or like, if you blow smoke in front of lasers, how they look.

Yeah. Like, well, like with, when you scan stuff, the guns that people scan stuff with, uh, how it's like spread out, it's like a thin sheet of a laser. It's not just like one tiny like line of laser. It's like

a, like a sheet of laser. And, um, What it was doing is it was super tiny, and then it would grow from up to down, or was that horizontally? Yeah. And you could see, like, it was doing that. And it stayed, at some point, it stayed to the same length or height. And it was moving so slow, and me and Stella were just standing there, and I was like, looking at this. I was like, what the hell is this thing? I was like, I've never seen anything like

this in my life. And it was just coming closer and closer. And it was, you know, when it was far enough far back, it looked like it was ground level. But the closer it got, this thing had to have been like 10 or 12 feet off the ground. And it was just like pulsating like really slow. Like I like stood there. I was like, I want to know what it says. I was like, you know, I'm going to stand here and wait for it. And Stella, she was just freaking out, barking. And so I was like, all right, I'll go upstairs. And I went upstairs and everybody was asleep. Nobody was awake, man. Everybody had been asleep for like at least two or three hours. And I went back out and it wasn't there. And I remember shaking my ex- I was shaking my ex-girlfriend.

I was like, hey, you got to come see this. And she was like, weren't you in bed? I was like, it's not even New Year's yet. She was like, yeah, it is. Just like three or four or three or four hours ago. And I looked at the clock and I was like, oh, God.

I definitely wasn't out there for that long. I was out there long enough to smoke a cigarette and kind of study this thing for a second. but, you know, it seems like lost time, but also at the same time, it seems like I went directly up there at some point. So I don't really know what that's about, and that's really my biggest question.

I'm just wondering if anybody's ever seen, and it's not the lightning rod stuff that people talk about or like the little weird lightning things you see in photographs. It was just like somebody was pointing a scanner at me And it was like from like horizontal or up to down whatever And uh it just it was moving so slow and I just that I mean That's really you know with the E.T deal stuff that's that's all I got man I mean I have other stuff stuff.

You got orb stuff and paranormal besides ET. But yeah. Yeah. Dude, it sounds like some of these experiences you've been through are very, very much relatable to the idea of abduction. And, uh, yeah. I mean, you mentioned earlier in the show about how when you were a kid, you had saw that, I think you said it was like a giant blue light or what was it, a blue figure?

or something like that? It was a figure, yeah. It was something. It was some sort of manifestation. Like, it was solid. I don't think it was paranormal. I think it was physical, man. And you saw that after you were watching Unsolved Mysteries, right?

Yeah, a little bit after that, you know. But yeah, yeah, same night. Okay. Yeah, I mean, because I know you mentioned about that and how that kind of started everything off, but I wonder if when you were three and you saw what you saw in your parents' room, that's what really started everything off for you.

I mean, it seems like whatever, because, I mean, outside of that, that first experience, seeing those, those grays, if I remember correctly, you never saw the grays again, right? No, no. I mean, honestly, like, with the feet thing, the sleep paralysis or the paralysis or whatever, the only time I really ever saw or thought I saw something or heard anything is when I was on the couch. And I could hear movement around me, you know, and it's almost like you can, when you sense there's something around you.

But the only time I've ever really seen any entity that are always. remember is the first experience I ever had. And it's just like a bunch of silhouettes lined up around the bed. You know, it's just insane. Yeah. And what you described was they had the big heads, right? Yeah, they look like, well, since I was a kid and I've never seen anything like it, I always thought they look like they have light bulb, like light bulb shaped hats with tiny, super skinny, you know, but they're really tall. And that could have just been because I was so small. But I was so small. But I remember it vividly. I mean, I can close my eyes right now and see exactly what I saw when I was at age.

So it definitely left a huge impact on me. Understandable. Absolutely understandable. You mentioned about how you almost felt like they were interviewing you to see if you were what they were looking for. But judging by the rest of your life's course and the things that have happened, it sounds like maybe you passed that test. It sounds like they've been messing with you, man. Because everything you're describing just sounds like it might have come from this initial encounter. Yeah.

I just don't understand the time lapse, you know, like from me being that young up until, and I know I was 21 when this happened, but maybe they just put me on the back burner. I don't know. I'm not sure. but it's definitely like it's caused a lot of problems with me like I have a really bad anxiety problem now and I just like I said even though I can't see anything I feel like there's something there that is keeping tabs on me and I haven't had an experience like that since then but well I take that back this story

is we're in Illinois now in a small town called Atkinson it's outside of it's pretty close to Davenport Iowa

but this happened like not even a month or two ago I have three little girls I was six four and a year in a few months

and they're always up in the middle of the night and my four-year-old, she'll always come into our bedroom and pull on the blanket, be like, Daddy, you know, can you set me up in the living room? She's like I am. She's just terrified at everything,

but I was like, you know, that's fine. Well, there was one night, man, and this is crazy too, because it scared the hell out of me. but I was laying in the bed as usual and I felt somebody pulled a blanket like pulling it off of me you know like Scarlett my daughter usually does

and I lifted up to say you know hey I'll be in there in a second and there was nothing there at all nothing but as soon as I looked up I could hear something in my because I sleep on the if you're looking from the ceiling. I sleep on the left side of the bed and my fiance

sleeps on the right. But from my point of view, I'm on the right side of the bed. And yeah, I looked out and nothing was there, but in my left ear, I could hear something moving and like really fast through the bedroom door. And I was like, all right, Scarlett's up. She's doing whatever. I went into their bedroom and Scarlett and her older sister were asleep like dead asleep. I even like messed with them a little bit

just to see if they like were faking it, you know? And they weren't even awake at all. They were like completely asleep. And that's, you know, that's, that happened like I said, about a month or two months ago. I can't remember. remember for sure, but I think that's the last encounter that I had. I feel like that was ET, too, but it's so different from everything else I've ever experienced. I mean, maybe it was paranormal,

but I'm not really sure, man. I don't know. Well, I mean, a lot of these experiences people go through and stuff can be defined differently depending on how they view them. So, I mean, if somebody not thinking about the ET, if they didn't have the experiences you had earlier in your life, they would probably say that that was a paranormal haunting type experience, right? Yeah, yeah. I mean, I didn't know what to think. I remember, you know, staying up all night because of that, because I didn't want whatever just happened to cause any, like, harm or anything to my family.

I kept checking on the kids and checking on my fiance and the baby. And man, I'm going to tell you this. And I don't know if it's just me or what, but I do not sleep past 3 o'clock in the morning. I promise you I'm awake every single morning either right at 3 o'clock or right before 3 o'clock. And I know some people call that the witching hour. you know and um it's it's just strange to me i feel like i have to be up at that time to make sure

that my family's okay because i feel this fear that if i'm not that something is going to happen and somebody's going to be messed with like i was messed with i mean i just i'm just that way and it's been that way for at least the past 15 years And I, you know, some people call it insomnia. I call it just trying to look out for whatever. And it's just, it wears you down for sure, man, especially when you get to bed till late. But I just, I can't.

Like, my brain has an internal alarm clock, and it always goes off at least like 10 or 15 minutes before or right at three. And I know a lot of people have experiences around that time. And I just, I don't know if it's me just being paranoid or I don't know if it's just something that I feel like I have to do. So it's every, it's every night that this just naturally happens for you. I'll tell you what, man. It's 98% of the time. There's very rarely that I sleep past three, but it is almost every single night. And even if I, you know, when I do get up,

I will stay up until about 4.30 or 5.30 or, you know, somewhere around there. And then I'll go back to bed. As long as I can see the sun kind of peeking out, I feel like we're safe, even though, you know, it probably doesn't matter. but in my heart and in my mind I feel like we're saying so it's taking a toll on me man

it really has you know they put me on medication for anxiety and I just I'm just always so unnerved about because I don't want my kids to go through any of that

stuff and I know that everybody else like they have these stories that are way more terrifying than mine. But to me, it's just, it's just so horrible. It's just, it really shakes me, man. It really does.

Well, I would say that being drugged down the hallway is a terrifying thing. And, you know, that experience, it's, again, it sounded to me like if, if you weren't dreaming, it was probably some kind of abduction where, and you mentioned about interdimensionalism, it sounds like you went from one place to another simultaneously, you know, like almost like there was a portal, you're being drug across a floor that you're familiar with, and then all of a sudden it's metallic, it's cold, in your different room being drugged, and that's terrifying. That's absolutely terrifying because it's outside of your control. Yeah, it's definitely not something I'd wish on anybody, but yeah, um, But there have been a couple of other things I wanted to bring up. You know, these are more paranormal instead of ET things. I've had a couple of incidents that have happened after, you know, we confirmed that we would have

have this interview on this day, and I felt like something was trying to scare me out of doing this. And I There's a tiny little Walmart out here In the next town And I was going to pick up a prescription for my fiance And You know with the COVID thing Everybody has to stand six feet apart

And wear a mask and this and that Well they have a new I guess I call them sneeze guards But the windows they put up now Like just So there's something in between you and the actual employees. But I was at Walmart, man, and I was coming around the corner. The way it's set up is it's kind of boxed in.

There's like a row behind you that's parallel to the actual way the pharmacy set up. And it's just a bunch of like canes and annex. anti-acids and this and that for whoever. And on the side, there's two gaps that you can get in through to actually come up to the pharmacy. But after that, there's like medicine on your right side, medicine on your left. And I walk up to the window, man.

And I've never seen anything like this. So it scared the hell out of me. But I walked up to the window. And I was waiting on the lady to come. up and, you know, talk to me so I could get whatever. And I looked down for a second at my wallet. And while I was looking down, I felt it was almost like somebody was breathing over my shoulder, you know? And, you know, in those horror movies, when people open those, those cabinets in the bathroom and close them and there's somebody behind them. Yeah.

it was basically like the opposite of that like um i looked up and there was this guy i'm assuming it was a guy and he was dressed in all black and he like i'm six one and this guy had to have been a head taller than me i couldn't even really see his face but i saw it in the reflection of the uh sneeze guard i guess you would say mirrored reflection and like my whole body just like my heart dropped I was like what what is this and I turned around and nothing I didn't see anything I even stood up like on my tipy toes and I was looking around the aisles and stuff because I could see over the back aisle and nothing was there. And I know I saw something.

I know it was a figure. And I don't want to call it a shadow figure. It almost looked like Reverend Kane from a poltergeist, except way taller. I didn't see the face that well, but the apparel that he had on, like the old missionary preacher outfit, you know. And it was,

it was this crazy and I just I couldn't shake it you know like I called up my fiance I was like you'll never believe like I was like because I was terrified I was like man I just saw something and then it wasn't there like I felt this whatever breathing over my shoulder like I felt it there and I was like wait you know you got to be six feet away for me and when I looked up it's This thing's right behind me. I'm like, Christ, you know. And the only other incident I've had here in Illinois is, I get tugged on a lot, like, tugged on my shirt and my jacket. And my girls do that a lot. And most of the time I don't pay attention to it, but I have been lately. and you know one tug it might just be like coincidental but now like i feel it two or three times and it's like there's a little kid pulling on my jacket trying to get my attention because i wear a jacket a lot up here

i'm not used to this cold man i'm from it but it's humid down there so but uh yeah that's that's that's pretty much it man yeah i i've had uh weird experiences i think i mentioned it on the show once where uh i was at penhurst which is a really famous haunted uh mental institution that was shut down um locally yeah and um i i picked my son up and when i picked my son up we were in one of the buildings and uh i felt something brush against the back of my leg my son's in my arms it wasn't his legs or anything like that it was when he was like one and a half years old And I felt something brushed against the back of my leg and I was just like, well, that's odd, you know. Yeah.

And I wasn't sure what it was. I mean, the only thing naturally I could think is that maybe there was some dirt on his shoes that fell down and brushed the back of my leg. But other than that, you know, considering you're in a haunted location, your mind kind of goes wild and stuff. But yeah, I mean, these kind of things happen to people. And it's just, you know, I think a lot of times with those kind of situations, people kind of overlook it, especially they're not along those lines with thinking like that. And they're just like, ah, you know, whatever kind of thing. But I think that people have experiences that, I think there's a lot of people in this world that have experiences that, you know, they're just not willing to talk about or they don't even realize they had the experience, you know? Yeah, yeah. I think that too, man. I talk to my mom because I was trying to get, the fact straight about when we lived in that house back when I was three, you know, and she's like, you know, why do you ask? And I was like, you know, I'd rather not really talk about it because I don't want to freak her out. I never told her about this ever. And I was just making

sure that the window was how I remembered it. You know, I was making sure that we were in the same bedroom, just making sure that I wasn't dreaming this up. And she finally got it out of me. And she was just like, Michael, you know, you should have told me this. She was like, you should, you could have came and talked to me about this. And I was like, well, I didn't know, you know. I mean, I didn't even know what it was at the time. So. And that's the thing. I mean, a lot of times, uh, as kids, you don't know what you can tell mom and dad. You know, like, kids have such a warped view of what they're going to get in trouble for, you know? And I mean, you look back at it as an adult.

You're like, why would I think that I was going to get in trouble for that? I mean, I know there's been times where I told my mom some things. And she's like, you should have told me that in the moment. Well, that happened to you. And I'm just like, I thought I'd get in trouble. Exactly. It's funny, man. Let me ask you this question before we roll out of here.

You talked a lot about these experiences and the grays. what do you think gray's are? I mean, what's your gut tell you? Because you said different characteristics of what you experienced and what you've heard. What does your gut tell you these things are? Um, honestly, Tony, um, I used to think these things came from before, you know, used to be a man of science, not a man of faith. And your higher entities episode, man, man, that really put things into perspective for me. And since I've only had

negative incidents with these things, like terrifying incidents, I mean, I honestly think their manifestations are demons, man. I know that sounds

whatever, but some people are like, oh, they're angels, and I know your last episode that I listened to that Michael guy was talking about his buddy. And I mean, I just don't think that they're, I don't think they're good things. I just think that they're, God knows what, I don't know, man. I mean, if they're able to like open up portals or, you know, put you out to where you

lose time or take you from your house, you know, or torture your kids, like, psychologically, there's nothing good that comes out of that ever. And I'll do whatever it takes, man. I mean, I don't have any laser guns or lightsabers, but... You don't. I thought everybody had those. I got the ones I got from a Target. But yeah, man, I just think it's, you know, I really strongly believe that...

They're not here for, they're not here to party, man. They're here to scare the hell out of you. They're here to take what they want, do what they want, dispose of you, put a chip in you, track you, come back whenever they want, and do the same thing over and over again. I just, I don't think that there's anything positive about these beings at all. And I hate to say that because I used to be like, man, these things are probably so much more advanced. I mean, all these things.

Well, being so far progressing technology doesn't mean that makes you a good person, you know, or a good being. It's just, I just don't think that, I don't think they're here to cheer people up, if you know what I mean. I get it. I mean, and I've said this from pretty much the beginning of the show. The way I view it is abductions is kidnapping. And that's not a good thing when you're taking somebody against their will. I know there's some people out there that willingly do it. They're like, please take me, you know, like the person on a, was an independent state, that lady on the roof. But in general, people are being taken against their will. I don't think it's a good thing. And then some of the recent information coming out, whether it's true, disinformation or what. But there are, you know, people within the world governments that have said now that we, mankind has been in contact with alien entities and that previous leaderships have struck up a deal where they're allowed to do such things to certain numbers of people. I mean, when you talk about that kind of stuff, it's not positive. It's not a good thing to me. And, you know, what these things are, you know, everybody has their own personal opinion. Like you said, I mean, some people think they're

angels. Some people think they're from other galaxies, interdimensional. demons, you know, everybody has their own thoughts on it. But one thing for sure, for me at least, is it ain't good. It ain't good because if you're taking people without their consent, yeah, I'm not down with that. Nope. Especially like when, you know, they're coming after you. Yeah, I don't ever want any of my daughters to come up to me and be like, hey, this happened because I'm just going to feel helpless because I don't even know what to do about it but I'm going to be raging

you know like I'm going to be super P-Oed and it's just not right man it's just not right I mean you adopt abduct kids here you go to jail you know but they're letting these whatever like just fly around

and do whatever they want to do with folks you know and I just don't think that's right man especially with like Like I said, I mean, these things have, like, made a huge impact in my life to where I'm just terrified of even talking about it. I just, I can't fathom what, I just can't fathom them or whatever, taking one of my children or any of them, you know, or my fiance. I would, I just wouldn't want anybody to ever go through what I've been through. I mean, it's horrifying.

And I just think it's evil, man. Straight up, I just think it's evil. Well, that's the show, everybody. I really hope you enjoyed it. And if you did enjoy it, please share the show with your friends. West does not care where you share the show or how you share the show. Just share the show if you enjoyed it because that's the best thing you can do to help this show grow. And once again, I am Tony Merkel.

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