Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:78 East Coast Sasquatch Encounters

Episode Date: February 8, 2015

Tonight we speak to Bruce who had two encounters near his property. We also speak to Gayle who has been researching Sasquatch in the Hudson Valley for many years and shares with us many encounter stories that she has personally researched. Gayle shared with us some great photo images which we will be sharing on www.sasquatchchronicles.com.

Five, five, four, four, three, three, two, one. One. When I had come down this hill, I had seen this creature cross the road. They would have ripped my locked door from my truck, extracted me from my vehicle, and no one damn thing I could have done about it. This thing I got to notice in its eyes. His eyes was real, real evil, real sinister looking.

You know, the look it was given. What were you are putting? Somebody out here. Just about six foot. Yes, I'm working right at him. Sasquatch Chronicle, a place where people share their encounters. Let's start the show. Welcome to the show, everyone.

I appreciate everyone listening tonight. I wanted to, I want to talk for a moment about people's encounters. And for those of you out there who have had encounters, I think the bulk of our audience probably has not had an encounter. But it's either intrigued by the subject or enjoys a subject. those of you who have had an encounter will understand what I'm talking about. I took a video. I wanted to show people on Sasquilatronicles.com what the area looked like where Woody and I had our encounter. So I went up there, I bought a cheap GoPro, went up to the place and started filming it.

And as I was filming it, I almost didn't post this to the website. because I look pretty wimpy in the video, and I didn't like how I portrayed myself. But it's interesting. When you retell an experience, retell an encounter, and as you've heard many encounters on the show, you get a sense that the person is reliving what they're going through. And it's true. When you've had an encounter, you do relive the moment. and so in my great idea of going up and filming the area where Woody and I had our encounter

it bothered me more than I thought it would and as I was filming it kind of explaining here's where they're walking in on us here's where the one crawled up on us here's where you know here's where all these different things happened and kind of explaining the area it really hit me when I was filming where the one I'd walked across the road. And it really bothered me. I think the point, it's funny, your mind turns into almost like a movie reel. And as I was sitting there filming it, explaining where this one had walked across the road, all I could picture of my mind was that monster walking across the road and preventing us from leaving.

And so it really bothered me. I appreciate everyone's nice comments. on sasswatch chronicles.com. It wasn't easy for me, so I definitely appreciate everyone's nice comments. Here's a clip from the actual video. You can imagine coming up here at night. I mean, it looks kind of eerie during the day,

but as you can come up here at night, it's even more creepy. But this is the GameTroll Road I talked about that we, Woody wanted to put it in four-wheel drive and go down. And we came, we stopped, about right here and that's when Woody got out of the car and wanted to take a look at the game trail so he could jump back in and tell me everything's okay we got four-wheel

drive let's go and off to our left is where we first started hearing footsteps and I'll hop out here and show you man it's creepy as hell up here um we when we're sitting in the car and I'll show you off to our left over here is where we started hearing footsteps. Something walking through this area right here towards the car. And right now it's February, but during the time of our encounter,

it was November. And as you can see, it's still kind of open, but this was a lot more open in November, a lot more trees, a lot more deadfall. This is the road where all the leaves were where I talked about the thing crawling out.

But as we sat in the car, footsteps started off in this direction coming towards us and we could hear the same walking through the brush coming towards us. And off in this direction I could hear another set coming in on us and right directly in front of us down a little ways we could hear another set coming towards us. So we sat in the car,

started hearing the footsteps come in, and trying to figure out what was going on. At the time of our encounter, this whole thing was a pile of leaves sitting up here that had fallen and just debris that had fallen. And as we were hearing the footsteps come up, something had come out of the brush, I want to say in this general direction came out of the brush and came up and this is where it started crawling towards the back of the car.

Both of us had our windows down. We could hear this thing just coming through the brush. It would stop. It would growl at us. It would come up a little bit more. And it's obviously it wasn't up walking like I'm walking. This thing I pretty sure was down on its hands and knees crawling towards the car. but it would growl, come up more, growl all the way back up, and I'm pretty sure it came up to our back bumper. And that's when we decided to back up and get out of here. To actually get out of here, the road that we came down was, is this road?

It's the only road in, it's the only road out of here. This just takes you deeper and deeper and deeper into the woods. This is actually Yakult Mountain I think that You can probably hear the river down there And I'll take you down there in a second and show you But We've tried to climb up this

And it doesn't look like much Probably from here where my camera's sitting But that's a pain It's a lot thicker Than it looks And it's just a pain to get up up into that area. When we came back to get the GPS,

this is where we had seen footprints. And I'll, if I, uh, grab it off Facebook, I'll show you the footprints, but this is where we saw. As you can see, the ground's not great for footprints, but right here on the hill, we got a pretty good footprint of this thing stepping and going back up.

And I kind of think, I mean, if you were asked me, I think they're up on that hill. I think they come down at night, and we've been up here many times. We've heard roaring from up in this direction. We've heard screaming from up in that direction. We've heard whooping.

But as we backed up and we turned the car around, we pulled the car. What he probably drove, you know, 30, 40 feet, something like that. And we'd stopped here, Sor Woody turned the car off and said that he just needed a second, couldn't drive us. Both our hands were shaken. I was looking straight ahead.

Woody was looking up to his left. And in this tree, it looked like a monkey wrapped around. Just had its legs wrapped around, had its arms wrapped around. And it just looked like a monkey in a tree. And I remember leaning over out of the car and looking up and just seeing this monkey in a tree. And as I sat back down and him and I just kind of talked about it, I had asked, you know, I told them I didn't know what it was.

I thought it was a monkey in a tree. And about that time, off in this direction up here, we could hear breathing, something breathing heavy, couldn't see it. but in this whole area the moon was coming up from this direction and was just lighting this whole area up but up on this ridge up here

something was breathing real heavy at us and we just couldn't couldn't see it this is about where our car was stopped where we had stopped to I wanted to kind of show you there's these white trees I think they're white, kind of white trees

and as the moon was coming in it was lighting this whole area up. Now, whatever we... These things were coming behind the car and they'd come from my vantage point in the car, looking down at my mirror, looking up at this hill, listening to the breathing. I could see these white trees. Something was running, what I know now, what it was, but at the time I didn't know what it was, was running across this road. It would stand by these white trees. And as the moon was coming in, it was lighting everything up. everything up. I could make out a figure or whatever it was, but it would almost block these

trees. Then it would take off running this way. And it did it a couple times. It would run across here, stand in front of these trees, run back, and I could see it from my passenger side mirror. And that's about the time I told Woody I wanted to leave. I didn't want to be here anymore. Let's go. We had time to kind of gather our senses. And That's when the big one stepped out right here. As you see, the road turning, it stepped out into the road right here. Probably 60, 70 feet away. It stepped out into the road, and it was just, it would stop.

It would look at us. Turn, you know, kind of turned its body, look at us. And it took its sweet time getting across this road. It's not there anymore, but there used to be a downfall tree right over here. It was a pretty big downfall tree. And that's when it was coming across this road and it went behind this tree. And that's when we, it was playing the step out of the, and I can't talk. I fucking hate this place.

It stepped out into the road. That's when the big one stepped out into the road. And he was taking a sweet time getting across this road. He would take, he came down from this area. he'd step down into the road and we'd take one or two steps turn and look at us one or two steps turn and look at us

one or two steps turn and look at us there was a deadfall tree on the other side of this road that's not there now but it used to be we came back and measured it was about eight feet up off the ground and that's when he stood behind it and we could see him standing there he obviously wasn't hiding but we could see him standing there

and he would come out and do kind of a pump action like he's going to charge us. And then he'd go back and stand behind the tree. And to this day, I don't know why he did that, but he would just come out and do a come out kind of pump like he was going to charge us, then go back and stand behind that tree. And he did that several times.

And when he went back behind this tree, you can kind of see up on the right-hand side there's kind of a, I hate to say it's like a ridge top, but it kind of goes up, and a white one, or a light gray one, jumped off of this, and we literally saw it, like, in mid-air, land in the middle of the road, and then it went down this way.

The big one stepped out, and he dropped down to all force, and kind of crawled out in the middle of the road, kind of looked at us, and then went off this side and went down, and I'll show you kind of where they're headed, but, yeah, it was a wild night. And again, to watch the full video,

please go to saskwatraunicles.com. First guest tonight, we'll be talking with Bruce, and Bruce kind of had an interesting encounter. He had actually a couple interesting encounters, really close to his property, but I wanted to bring Bruce on so he could talk about his encounters. Bruce, welcome to the show.

I've had a couple of encounters from about 2011 when I moved into this house through 2013. Let's start off with your first one. Tell us what you were doing and what happened. Okay, well, the very first thing that happened was right after we moved in, this is my mother-in-law's house,

and she was in a nursing home. And the house had been empty for probably about a year or more. And it used to have a bunch of floodlights and they're all gone now. Anyway, I slept in the basement because I have sleep apnea. So I snore very loud and irregular. And my son was down there with me. And he woke me up and he said there was a growling at the window. We had an open window at the time.

he just really freaked him out and he saw some eyes shining through the window and then a couple of days later about 11 o'clock at night on drizzly night he's about 17 by the way I decided I wanted to go out and get some ice cream at the store for a little treat for he and I and his mother so we were riding and probably about a half half a mile from the house

we saw this huge black figure on the side of the road. And my first thought, I mean, I slowed down as I saw it to about 20, 25 miles an hour. And it was just a real light drizzle. My first thought was it was shaped like a Newfoundland, one of those big, German, Sapinar type dogs. But it was about five foot tall at the shoulder. And the tail looked like it was broken halfway down or bent about like 20, 30 degrees.

and it was wagging real slow. And as I rode by it, I was staring at it the whole time. And it was just black, it looked like black mangy fur that rolled in oil and then dirt and then wet. It just looked nasty. And I was in a 2000 explorer. And this thing was a little bit taller than the hood of my truck. And it was close to them if my son could have reached out the window and touch it. it. And it was in a little dip off the edge of the road about a foot below the road type.

And I just wish I had stopped because my headlights were just, you know, the road was bending, so my lights were right on it. I wish I'd hit the high beams and blew the horn to get it to move. I did a quick U-turn at the very next corner and it was gone. I was talking with my son and, I mean, as soon as we had turned around to go look for it again, all the went through both of our minds was it had to be a big foot or something like that. It had to be an arm sticking out. I mean, it's what it looked like. I was trying to make it a tail in my mind.

But that would have been a huge dog. I mean, we're talking as big as a buffalo on the side of the road. And I've owned big dogs. I've had St. Bernard. I've had Rottwellers. You know, I know what size dogs are. I know the biggest dogs are in English massive. They get about 250 pounds. ounce. But this was no dog. It didn't have a head. Because that's what I was kind of looking for as I rode by was a head. It was like just this big black, nasty, hairy blob with a thing sticking out that kind of looked like a tail, but more like an arm. And at hair, it was probably about five inches, six inches long, all matted up and hanging off of it. And it just kind of had like a blunt end to it. I mean, I didn't see a hand.

My headlights weren't quite on that end of it. I was thinking a dog on all fours. But if I, you know, picturing it in my mind and I've been thinking it over ever since. I mean, it's been stuck in my brain almost like an obsession. Like, you know, I just wish I'd blown the horn at it. But the best I can figure it was like just a big, big foot with its arm sticking out, back to the road and its head down where I couldn't see its head. and I rode up looking at its arm and its side, and as I rode past, I'm looking at its back.

That's the only thing I could figure it could be. I mean, it was just too huge. I mean, there's a farm that has cattle right across the street from there. And it was bigger than any of their cattle. So what did your son say when you guys drove past it? Did he, you guys drive past? Obviously, I don't think you guys really have bearer that size out there. We give Black Bear up to about 200 pounds, but they're very rare around here.

Now, we did have a news report that supposedly a mother and like three cubs were in the area, maybe about three or four weeks later, and people were supposed to like stay away. But never heard anything about them, catching it, moving them, killing them or anything. Yeah, and it's, yeah, I know a bear. I mean, I've been, I've been in the woods. I was in the scouts. You know, I'm not a big hunter. You know, I'm more of a person that gets deer fever where I will pop the shotgun at 300 yards of the deer.

You know, I just, I get too trigger happy, so I don't hunt. It costs too much money when you're like that. Well, let me ask you this. What was your guys' conversation like? You spun the car around. Obviously, you must have figured there was something wrong. Well, we knew it was something wrong as we were going by it. I mean, we were going really slow.

I mean, I'm guessing probably 20 miles an hour. We looked at it for a good, probably three seconds of time. I mean, because it was a good hunker road that we were riding a bend in where it was at. And it was just still wagging that limb or whatever was sticking out, really slow, probably moving it maybe like two, three inches. You know, just very unnatural looking. It just didn't look like it belonged. and my son was, I mean, he's not one for panic, but he was rather voisterous.

And, you know, we were both talking at the same time. You know, what was that? You know, making a lot of noise and not listening to each other. But, I mean, I just whipped the truck around and looked, and it was gone. And, you know, then we kicked ourselves the whole way down to the store to get ice cream. We were talking about we should have stopped. It's a road where people, it's a 45-mile-an-hour road, and a lot of people drive fast through there. Yeah, that's the only reason I didn't stop.

Yeah, that's probably best you didn't, too. You never know what's going to happen when you run into one of these things. Yeah, well, I felt kind of safe in an explorer with all the windows up. And, you know, I have to go, he's gun it. But after I've read some stuff on your website, I'm like, I'm glad I didn't stop and blow the horn at it. Yeah. Because I really don't need a better view of what it looked like,

And I don't know how many more might have been around. I think I just caught it off guard and it froze, you know, when my headlights hit it. Yeah, it makes you wonder what it was doing there next to the road. Almost you wonder if it was doing, you know, eating the road killer. Well, right at my house, I have usually about four or five deer sleeping right next to the house. And we have deer constantly on that road killed. I mean, we have, you know, skunks, deer. now I'm not way out in the country, but deer are just, you know, in yards and all up in this area.

I mean, it's just tons of, it's like nobody hunts in this area. I've had one more visual encounter, which actually confirmed the first, I think, and I've had a couple of experiences that are weird around my house. But, yeah, about a year later, I was, I'm a night out, and I've got to be a lot out. and I've got a lot of arthritis, so I don't sleep well. And I woke up about 5 o'clock and decided to do some grocery shopping when nobody's at the store. And I got up and went out and warmed up truck and was going to the grocery store. And some was just coming up. And this is about probably a half mile to three quarters of a mile further down this road in more an urban setting.

but there's this real steep embankment beside the road at about probably like a 1212 pitch roof. It's a 45 degree, a lot of, you know, brush and, you know, vine and stuff on. It's not kept at all, but it was in November and a lot of the green had fallen off. And I was probably about maybe 250, 300 feet away. I saw something that looked like a, almost like a black stick figure run from the road straight up the hill. And it just looked like it was effortless and like it was just flying up this hill. I mean, by stick figure, I mean, it was just a black silhouette. It was thin.

But it was moving. I mean, and this brush is six foot high. And, I mean, I can't really guess the height of it. But I'm imagining it's probably about seven and a half, eight foot tall. and it was just flying up that hill, just running. I mean, like, I mean, I can't even hardly describe it, almost like an Olympian, you know, just a perfect form, just moving the arms are flailing, but it was, it was flying up that hill. I mean, there's no, and there's no way you can even hardly walk up that hill, let alone run up. Was it on two legs when it was running up the hill?

Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely two legs. I'm kind of excited to actually get this stuff off my chest. I didn't really pay attention to, like, dimensions of the arms and legs and the body. Yeah, I didn't really pay much attention to that because I was just amazed at it going up the hill. But, I mean, it was just, it just looked like, you know, an athlete, you know, would just perfectly flying up that hill. And, I mean, we got joggers around here, but nobody's running up that hill. hills.

I mean, I can, yeah. Yeah, that's what I was going to ask you, is could it have been a person? Do you think it could have been a person running up that hill? I mean, and that's a question I realized that people might be asking in their minds when they hear it. You know the hill, you know, the way it ran. Well, like I said, it was, it's like a 1212 pitch, you know, like a 45 degree angle. And, you know, just weed covered vines, you know, little,

bushes and all kinds of stuff just to tear you up. And I'm on disability. I don't make much money. I would give somebody $100 if they could run up that hill in less than five minutes. How many seconds did you get to see it? And how much ground do you think it covered? Well, I saw it for, I'd say maybe two seconds at max. And it went point to point,

probably about a hundred and 125 feet maybe yeah that's quite the especially up that incline you know if you're sitting there on one one thousand two one thousand it's covering a lot of ground in a short amount of time yeah it was like it was only like

six or seven steps to it I mean it just it almost looked like a cartoon the way it moved up the hill I mean it just I'm thinking you know physics it's like you know the feet should be sliding out from under it and it should be grabbing it the ground and it's just running.

It's just flying up the hill. Well, tell me what's going on around your property. You said you had a few things going on around your property. Well, I've kind of given up sleeping in the basement because right in the basement, the bat, it has a walkout basement with a big glass door that I now keep a lot of like old wire and stuff in front of. But it's kind of got a sheltered area that's just pitch black behind the house. My father-in-law landscape the place, like, perfect for burglars because there's like these 20-foot trees on every corner of the house,

and the whole back is lined with trees about 25 feet behind us, and a little cubbyhole where the deer loved to lay right next to the house back there. And, yeah, I'm laying there, and I've got a window unit air conditioner in the basement. And it's, you know, so the windows are cracked open a little bit. You can hear me outside. and with my sleep apnea when I'm sleeping, I'm doing, you know, I'll stop breathing and then go real loud, you know. And one night I was down there, let's see,

it was probably after I saw that one run up the hill. But I have a little dog that's half-cock or spaniel, half-doxon. She's about like 12 pounds, right? Pretty fearless for most of the part. Well, anyway, she's down there with me. And I woke up, she had, I was on the couch and she had crawled up on top of my head. And she was just trembling. I mean, it just about right, you know, vibrate the top of my head off.

And I woke up and pawled her off. And it was right at sunrise. And I heard this, like that, at the window. And I looked over and a shadow fell over the whole window. And then I heard like three thumps and that was it. Yeah, it was gone. I mean, I didn't see anything, but the light was blocked, and then it was, the light was there again. And I heard this, it just these three loud thumps outside, like it was running off or it hit something or it was just,

pooh, p, pf, yeah, and that was it. And my son has heard weird sounds out the back from the basement. And, you know, we'd be sitting there watching TV and, like, just pause. the TV and you hear things out there or you hear all the deer just all of a sudden run away. Yeah, it's pretty odd. And my son did have one experience by himself. He was jogging on our road. And there's an access that comes up to our neighborhood where he likes to finish.

He runs downhill, then walks back up the hill. And as he was walking back, he saw something about three foot tall that was black. And this is also a very steep hill, but it's very short. But he saw these two black things stick up in the air and it just darted up the hill. And it was like three foot tall, just a black blob with like two black things up in the air. And he said he stood there for a minute and then he walked up the hill and he couldn't find anything. And all I was thinking, you know, if we're seeing Sasquatch here, which that, that

would have been a young one. And that means mom was probably watching him while he was going up the hill. But other than that, I mean, we've heard a few things. Last couple of years it's been pretty quiet. Yeah, it almost makes you want to go check out up that hill. Well, I mean, I've been up there. It's a really nice property up there, but it's just lined with really thick with about 20, 30-year-old pines. Yeah.

The man had put there to hold the erosion back. But, you know, it's just, you know, I don't want to mess with them. Yeah. No, I hear you. Yeah, I mean, I'm a pretty brave guy. I used to be a power lifter. Yeah, I bench 600 pounds one time in a local competition back in my 20s. And, you know, I'm still pretty strong, but I'm getting arthritic.

And my first thought was, you know, by going to woods looking for Bigfoot, I'm the one that's the weak old. old one. You know, the animals go for the weak and the tired or the gun to say. Yeah, I got you. I got you. I don't want to be out. And I don't run fast anyway,

and I've got bad knees and bad feet too. And, you know, I just, you know, I'd have to take people in wheelchairs to be able to out and run somebody. I got you.

Anyway, I appreciate you. I do feel a lot better. now that I've shared this. Oh, I appreciate sharing. I appreciate coming on and sharing. Yeah, and your experience, I would probably still be pooping my pants. I appreciate you.

I appreciate you coming on and sharing, man. Yeah, well, you know, I'm just, you know, I can't believe how cowardly I got really quick about Bigfoot. Yeah. I saw him. You know, I was like, yeah, I used to think, I ain't no big deal. It's like Harry and the Henderson's. You know, a big friendly fella hanging out in the woods. And then I'm like, you know, nature don't work that way.

Yeah. Yeah, no, it doesn't work that way. And then that Finding Bigfoot show, you know, all I'm thinking is, you know, if y'all were going out looking for a grizzly bear, would y'all be going to let's take little children out to look for grizzly bears. Yeah. You know? No, it wouldn't happen.

Yeah, that show drives me crazy. But I still watch it. Yeah, it's still fun to hear people's encounters. All right. have a wonderful night. I hope you get some rest in. All right. Thanks, first. I appreciate it, ma'am. All right, man. Bye. Our next guest is Gail Beatty from the Hudson Valley area of New York State.

She has, what I would consider, a situation going on that's very similar to the Browns in the Chehalis area of Washington State. Welcome, Gaila, to the show. Hi, how are you? Good, how are you? Is this Wes? Yeah, this is Wes. I got Will and Shannon on the line. Thanks for having me.

Hi, guys and girls. Yeah, thank you, Gail. I'm excited and a little nervous in my first time, so. Lots of stuff happening. Yeah, you're just fine. What I want to do is, first of all, let's go back to the beginning when you first got involved in all this, before we talk about anything that's going on there. Tell us a little bit about your background

and how you got involved in this subject. All right. Well, I grew up in Pine Plains, New York, and at the base of Stissing Mountain, and we have two lakes, one across the street from our house, and then another big lake. And I grew up hunting, fishing, horseback riding,

camping, milking cows on friends farms, and, you know, just an outdoors person. And one evening, I guess I was maybe about 14 or 15, I got grounded by my parents for something I did, so I didn't tell anybody. I just decided I was going to go up on the mountain and camp out there by myself. So I took my tent and set it up. It was still light out, and it started to get dark out, and I was fine. I'd always been up in the woods and, you know, never had any fear of anything. And when it started to get dark, all of a sudden I heard this owl really loud and really close,

and it sounded like a great horned owl to me. So I was like, okay, it's just an owl. Don't worry, you know, nothing's going to hurt you. and a few seconds later, this god-awful, like scream, yell, how the loudest, most terrifying sound I had ever heard in my life, sounded like it was within feet of my tent, and I just froze. I couldn't even move. I couldn't, you know, I was just paralyzed with fear. So I don't know how long I stayed there, but finally I got up enough nerve,

And I just ran down the hill and birthed into the house. And my parents were like, where were you? You know, what's the matter? You're all white and shaken. And I said something is up on that mountain and I don't know what it is, but it's after me. And at that point, I had never heard of the Patterson Gimlin film. I had never heard of Bigfoot. I had no idea.

They existed. So years later, you know, I went through my life, got married. He had children and everything and moved back up here because for a while I moved down to Putnam County. And I continued to hunt while I was down there and fish and everything. But when I moved back up here, I decided to Google because I was watching Finding Bigfoot. And I said, geez, you know, some of these sounds are, it could be what I heard on the mountain. Maybe it was a Bigfoot. So I googled Bigfoot sightings in Duchess County, and the first one that popped up was a siting back in the 80s that two women had on Lake Road in Pine Plains, New York, which is the road I lived on.

I grew up on. So that sparked my curiosity. That was in January of 2012. So I started going online, reading everything I could find about the Bigfoot. Being a hunter and a tracker, it just was a natural thing for me to start going out into the woods and investigating. And that's basically, you know, I decided to start my own group. And three years later, here I am. You have a lot of pictures of tracks and some other images and films and things.

Geez, I don't even know where to begin. I guess I'll leave that up to you. you know, what kind of things did you start finding and maybe just kind of take us through your investigations? Yeah. We first, I guess I started out locally in Tivoli, New York, which, well, let me tell you where I live, we own 10 acres on what's called the Sock Hill Creek. And it's a tributary to the Hudson River. And I'm like five minutes away from the Hudson, and we can see. see the Catskill Mountains, not from our house, but right up the road or down the road from us.

And so I started, you know, I have a lot of friends that own farms and properties. So I started out going to this farm in Tivoli, where they raise all kinds of birds and cattle and pigs and everything. And so I started out investigating up there, figuring, you know, that may be a good spot and I always start out at the water source. So he has a small pond and a creek running through there. And it didn't take us too long because he actually had a sighting of a black Sasquatch looking in the window of their home about maybe eight or nine years ago by his niece. So I said, okay, that's a good way to start. So we went to the farm and we went to the farm and

went to the water source, and sure enough, you know, within the first couple of times of going out, we noticed tracks along this, like this road that the farmers used, you know, with the tractors and everything. And so I cast that track, and I think that was 17 inches. Then we started looking along the barbed wire fence, and we found some hair. And it just mushroomed from there. We've actually heard wood knocks while we were investigating. We heard a couple of hoops. It seems like there's a lot of activity on that farm.

He actually, the farmer told me that the cows will not go into that area where we found the tracks and that at one point they stampeded and broke down this fence that had like metal on either side and the cows like something spooked them out of there and they actually broke through the fence to get out of there and they won't go back in that area. So, you know, we put up trail cams in the beginning thinking that we would possibly get something on that and, you know, that didn't happen.

We never get anything except. normal wildlife. I think we've got a martin and, you know, different regular animals, but we haven't really had any luck with the trail cams and the Sasquatch. So from there, you know, the group started to get more and more interest from different local people and more people wanting to get involved. I usually always bring my shotgun when I go, not to harm a Sasquatch, but for protection because we do have mountain lion and bear and bobcat and whatnot.

So I don't feel comfortable going without some kind of protection whenever I go. And certain areas I can't bring my shotgun. Like the new investigation area is a wildlife sanctuary. So, you know, you're a little bit uncomfortable at times because we have, found, you know, other tracks of, I think I sent it to Will of a dog-like track, and, you know, that's kind of intimidating when you're out there. Sure. But, yeah.

But, you know, we've just found so much evidence and so many reports coming in that it's just mushroomed and it's keeping me hopping. How many different questions do you think are in that particular? area. The farm, I think there is at least five. We've gotten tracks from, I think, four individuals ranging in size from six inches to, I think, 20 inches. And then from the farm, a fellow came to my house because I have a silhouette of a big foot. It's an eight-foot tall silhouette that my son's made for me and he saw that as he was passing by this man and so he came to my house about a little over a year ago and he said he's got some strange activity going on and he started telling me about it

and it turns out it's the next road over from the farm so once i started going there and realize that these are the same clan because the tracks you know measured up about the same size, then we started investigating there, and that's when all, you know, we found so much evidence there, and we had a frightening encounter on December 30th of 2014, yes. What happened with that encounter? Oh, God. Well, we didn't have a Fleer camera, and we had been studying these Bigfoot for quite some time and the homeowner had been feeding them and they would take the food.

They would throw rocks at him when he was driving his tractor. He's had them pounding on the side of his house at night, climbing on, jumping on his roof, leaving him deer heads and stones and sticks and, you know, just doing all kinds of stuff there. So I said, well, let's call, I guess one of the guys from Massachusetts, called and said, I have a fleer camera, and I'd love to come to your area and, you know, bring the camera. So the two guys came from Massachusetts, and we went into, first we went into this area, and it was still light out, and we were doing a little video clip and just checking it out

during the daylight with them, and we got a couple of woodknocks. So, you know, it was real cold out that day and we said, all right, let's go in and have something to eat, wait until it gets dark, and then we'll go out and we'll gift them at the fence where the homeowner was gifting them. So we waited until about 8 o'clock, and we went outside, and we weren't at 30 yards from the house, maybe even less, when the Bigfoot started throwing rocks at us, snapping off tree branches. We didn't have any vocalizations at all, which I was surprised,

but just started going crazy. So the homeowner was very brave, and he and the other investigator started heading towards the fence, and the fellow with the Fleer camera and myself stayed together and just kind of let them, you know, work their way to the fence, and, you know, I'll be honest,

I was pretty scared. And so these things just, they broke trees that were enormous in girth. And I have all the photographs, and the next day we actually, you know, did a video to show people the trees that these things broke. We saw some eyes shine. But then when he finally made contact with the Fleer camera, there were about five of them. And we got him on the Fleer. So he's like, contact, contact. So he was passing the camera so each of us could look at them through the Fleer.

And when he passed it to me, I'm a lefty, and I hit the wrong button and shut the darn camera off. But anyway, we do have a few. Yeah, I know. I'll never hear the end of that. But we do have some footage that we will be releasing when we do our documentary. For now, you know, we have it, and we do show it at our presentations and stuff, but we don't want to put it out there yet. So it's just been a wild ride. I can't even believe that there's so many of them around here in the Hudson Valley.

And we're only two hours north of Manhattan. Yeah, it's incredible. Yeah, it's an area you would never think, you know, that part of the country. but it's pretty rural there, right? Yes, yeah. We have farms around us and orchards of all kinds and plenty of deer, muskrat, and beaver and fox. And, you know, it is. It's very rural here, actually.

And where I live is perfect habitat for them because this creek goes through and then it opens to a pond. and then there's a waterfall, and then it heads across Route 9G and to the Hudson River. So they have so much food here that they're here year-round. I mean, maybe some of them might migrate, and we do seem to have a lot more activity this time of year in the dead of winter, and we have over a foot of snow right now. So it's incredible. No, Gil, you had sent, I think Will, a picture of what looked like something behind a tree.

It was a pretty good picture, actually. I don't think it was, what do they call it, paradolia. It's definitely something. The dogman one, the one standing, the light-colored one? Yeah, that was creepy. That was, we are investigating that wildlife sanctuary, and we had gone out that day. I think there were four or five of us,

and Connie Emming, one of our members, has taken over the photography part of it because she's really good with the camera. She bought a new little Sony HD camera. So she was walking behind us and filming. And, well, earlier, well, let me back up a little bit. We went to this place where we investigate. a couple of weeks before that photo was taken.

And I was with Johnny Angel. He's also a psychic, and he likes to, you know, he's good in the woods. And Connie and this new guy, Brian, who had never been big footing before. So for some reason, Johnny suggested that we split up and that Connie and Brian take the higher trail, and Johnny and I would take the main trail. Well, they're about 15 minutes into their high trail. They started to hear, you know, these sounds like Connie's like, I keep hearing something behind us, you know.

And so they continued to walk, you know, slowly, and she was filming. And then they said, okay, well, let's stop and take a drink and we'll meet up with Gail and Johnny down on the other trail. So as soon as they stopped and took their backpacks, off and started drinking the water, and of course the camera was shut off at that point, they started getting these loud, like, and so she's starting to text me to see if that was Johnny and I messing around or something, and I texted her back and I said, where are you? You know, you were supposed to meet us, and so then she realized it wasn't us, and then it

happened again, like six or seven wax as loud as anything. So they just grabbed their packs and they took off. And then they met us down at the main trail and they were both visibly shaken. And so we get home and we review the video. And in that video, there is a huge, what I believe is a female Sasquatch with a young infant, like on her left shoulder, clinging to her left shoulder, and a juvenile in front of her, and the mother Sasquatch has a stick in her hand,

and the juvenile has a stick. And I've tried to, I sent this film to a producer John Matusie, who is a filmmaker, and he did, edited it, edited the video, and slowed it down, so we do have a clip. But it's from probably 40 to 50 yards away, and, you know, it's not the perfect money shot, as you would say, but it's incredible. So we think that, you know, they got a little too close,

and when they stopped to drink, then she felt threatened because she had it too young with her, and then she spooked them out of there. So we have that clip, and that was amazing. We've had other times out there, So then the next time we went, oh, no, who's that? Let me think.

No, that's the same clip that that dog-like creature or whatever it is was standing, when we were reviewing the clip and looking at the mother big foot with the two young, there was that creature standing maybe 20 to 30 yards from the trail that Connie and Brian were on and from the mother Sasquatch was just standing there. And, you know, I just happened to freeze frame each frame, and there I saw it. And I sent it to Scott Carpenter, and he said, you know, it's not black like the dogman that he has in his picture. But he definitely said, you know, it could be. But we don't exactly know what it is.

Some kind of creepy-looking thing. But it never, you know, tried to attack us or anything. Now let me ask you a question. In the beginning, you were talking about the farmer that, did you say he was feeding them? No, not the farmer. He doesn't feed them. But the habituator, which I'll call Doc, because I have to protect him, because he still has activity on a daily basis there. But yet, he feeds them.

And he's only maybe six miles from here, from my home. and he has activity all the time. Does he notice a lot of bad behavior? Yeah, he's gotten, you know, like, I don't know if you guys believe in, like, infrasound or zapping, but this man, he has been hit so many times with, you know, something, like, that makes him, and I physically, you know, witnessed it with my own eyes that night of the third, when we encountered the, you know, Sasquatch and they were breaking down the trees and everything. Not only did the homeowner get zapped, but the man with the Fleer camera got zapped.

And I was like right next to them and they didn't hit me with it. But the other guys were like shaking, nauseous. I mean, really, it was bad. And, you know, we didn't stay out there too much longer after that because it was frightening. I mean, terrifying. Yeah, those sounds like to display in that case. You know, sort of a warning to keep your distance. Right, exactly.

But, you know, he, the homeowner has experienced some very negative things there. And, you know, I've warned him not to go out there at night alone, you know, but you can only do so much. I mean, it's up to him. Does he continue to feed them? Does he what? Does he continue to feed them? Yeah, does he continue to feed them? Yeah, every night he feeds them.

Do you get any many reports of animals, you know, domestic animals, livestock and such, come up missing around there? Yeah, actually three days ago, one of my bait customers came in and he lives in Pine Plains and he said that a friend of his has a farm and a calf just vanished.

They have no idea where it went. They didn't see any drag marks or blood or anything. And he took one of my cards. And then he also reported another lady in Pine Plains that has a dog kennel that's having activity around the kennel, which is pretty common. I've gotten two other reports of, you know, dog from people that have dogs that have been,

harassed by the Bigfoot and you know I told him they will kill and eat domestic animals and don't leave your dog out in the pen at night you know it's crazy but most people aren't even aware that these things are exist number one and if they do hear about them they think there's only one so you know I'm trying to educate these people to what's really happening because you know, when they encounter something like that and not even, you know, realizing they just go off in the woods or, you know, go for a hike by themselves

and they have no clue as to what's out there. What's going on around there? Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. And, Gail, I was wondering, as far as your research as of late, I was wondering how often you feel threatened or in danger or do you at all. Actually, I have a healthy respect for them. I'm always on guard as well as our other team members. We usually go out with at least four people, and most often one of us is armed.

After seeing that wolf-like track and seeing that wolf dog-type creature, that really kind of scared me more than the Bigfoot for some reason. And now I know why, because I've been looking at a lot more dog man encounters online lately. And it's pretty frightening. So, yeah, I haven't, other than that night of the 30th, and if they were going to kill me, they would have done it then, I think. But that was the most frightening encounter. and the night the first time I heard that horrible howling scream.

That was terrifying. But since then, you know, I mean, I do respect their area and, you know, I don't want to push them and I don't want to chase them. I already know they exist and I don't need to prove it to anyone. I'm just documenting my findings and trying to educate the public right now and taking lots of reports. I actually got three last week from the same road. And, you know, they didn't know each other.

One guy, Larry called. He had maple syrup lines that he was checking. And he noticed that some of the lines were ripped out. And he looked on the ground and there's a bunch of Sasquatch tracks. So he called me first. The next night, this man Chris called the same road, right down the road from Larry. His dog was out in the pen barking and carrying on. He went outside to check to see what was wrong,

shined the flashlight on the ground. There's tracks all around the dog pen. So he called me and he was in a panic. I mean, he was, you know, because he's originally from the city and he said, if I would have known these things were, around here, I would have never bought this house, and he said, I'm packing up and going back to the city tonight. So that was like, oh, I felt so bad for him. And so then two days after Chris called me with the dog incident, this man Donald called in the same road,

and he said that he had just bought 12 acres of land on that road, and they cut all the trees down, this past summer. And he made a dirt bike track for his son, and he took his son out the last week to ride the dirt bike, and they were getting pelted with rocks. And he said, geez, you know, maybe these rocks are getting kicked off the back of the motorcycle tire, but then they started to see the rocks, and they weren't big rocks, but, you know, they started to see them coming from, you know, the wood line. And so they got out of there, and he called me.

And he was, you know, kind of upset. And he's like, you know, is my son safe to be out there, you know, riding his dirt bike alone? And I said, well, they do like to observe children and people in general, but, you know, I don't think I would let him go there alone, you know. Yeah, that's good advice. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't know how you'd go.

guys feel about the missing 4-1-1, but it's kind of creepy when you hear about all these things and these people disappearing, and especially children, that, you know, I don't, I really don't want people to be harmed in any way, but, you know, or disappear, but you don't want to spook them either so that they don't want to go out in the forest anymore. Yeah, that's kind of a tough balance at this point with all this, because, you know, you You know, you want to make sure people are aware, but like you said, you don't want to scare them either. Right. Much more encounter stories coming up.

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