Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:786 My Father Shot It In Our Front Yard

Episode Date: August 28, 2021

Wade will be my guest tonight. Wade writes "The childhood experiences with my 5 sisters and 1 brother all older have being horrifying to all of us when we lived in Rainier Oregon. Dad was a pipe fitter and worked on a new nuke plant there. Mom was a stepford wife so to speak. Not long after we moved there odd things happened..no one could explain..starting with the 3 other houses that no one came out at night. Animals disappeared and or twisted and put in trees. Lots of foot prints. The lumberjacks dad hired kept leaving. The well drillers pulled off twice. And then it got way worse. Bangs on the house, broken windows. We think there were 5 for sure....they all looked different and had NO fear of us. This was over a 3 year span. It had a life long no BS effect on the family. I talked to my older family about Rainer and it was way worse than could 10 year old to grasp. I went back there 2 years ago. It continues to this that day. It's hard to piece together so so many things over the years. There were a hell of a lot of stuff people knew back then. And we were warned by the very old couple dad bought the land from."

It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind. It either heard me or smelt me, and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up. That shocked me. They don't make people that big. The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything moved like that in my life. They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language and they were chuntering away back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forward.

I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet but what I saw were bears. What would you report? Jesus Christ, you better. Chair, see ya! Hello? Hello? Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir?

That son of a bitch is about six foot nine. I don't know. Do you see a announcer? Yes, I'm looking right here. Uh-oh. Casida, cutta. Tzica. Tisica.

Hey, get away from that. No touch that. Hoonta. Oonta. Oetty! I can't stand those jawa's. Disgusting creatures. Welcome to the show, everyone.

Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show planned for you. I hope your week has treated you well. Last week, I actually posted episode 785, and it was a preacher from Texas, and he had a piece of video. He had a really cool piece of video that he shot a couple weeks ago of this creature running across his farmland. I have something running across his farmland, whatever it is, it's moving fast. But, you know, when I was going to do that show, I was sitting there thinking, how cool would it be instead of hearing two guys talk about a video you guys can't even see?

hear two guys talk about it for an hour, why not show it to everyone? And so I looked into it. I talked to the people who sent my podcast out to all the different players. And it was my understanding, you know, this technology's been around forever. And there's no reason why, if you put it in this format, it'll play the video within the podcast player. I thought, oh, this is fantastic. And so I sent it out and because I wanted you guys to see the show and and the video and everything else. And it was my understanding that most people on Spotify, nothing happened.

They didn't even get a show. And so it's a little frustrating for me. And I think most podcast players should be doing this, especially in this situation. If you're discussing a video and the guy showing you the video, you're probably going to watch. And so I put the video up on the whole show up on the website, and I put it up on iTunes for everyone,

in case people came looking for the show and couldn't find it, it was there. And I'm having a lot of fun with it with this Chronicles After Dark. It's more or less like a video production. It's very different from Sasquatch Chronicles. And so there's a huge learning curve for me. I've been living off coffee for about the last two weeks and watching YouTube videos of 10-year-old kids explaining to me how I need to set up this equipment.

It's true. So it was frustrating for me. If you didn't get the show last week, I apologize to you. It went out. And I made mention last week about CastBox. It's a free app that I've been using for years. And CastBox isn't paying me. Cass Box doesn't even know who I am. But I love their product. I've been using it for about two years. The reason why I like Cassbox over even Apple's podcast player or Stitcher or any of them is the audio quality. I think they compress the audio at a higher range. and I've noticed it when I go and listen to my show on my iPhone with the podcast player that comes with it, and then I'll go listen to it in CastBox. And I noticed a huge difference. The sound quality is way better on CastBox. And what's cool is it loaded the video right away.

It doesn't matter if you have an iPhone, doesn't matter if you have an Android, it'll play for everything. And it loaded right up, and it was beautiful last week. But apparently not for everyone. So, you know, what do you do? If you get a chance, check out that episode, 785 with the preacher from Texas. Check out his video. And I just wanted to present it to you guys.

In the future, I'm not sure if I'll do that again in the podcast format. It'll probably be a different format. I'm still moving forward with the Chronicles After Dark and putting together some really, really cool content that I've always wanted to put together. And that'll mainly be up on the website. but yeah, if you get a chance to check out CastBox, it's a cool app. I know I sound like I'm selling it. I'm really not. They're not paying me for anything.

I just really like their app. But in the future, if I do something like that and I'm sending it out for everyone, I'll still put it up on the website. I'll still put it up on YouTube and I'll still put it up in as many formats as I can. Thank you again for being here. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Wade to the show. Wade, thanks for coming on.

Thank you very much, Wes. Thank you. Yeah, Wade, I'm really fascinated by your account. I know it happened in Rainier, Oregon, and this is the early 70s. If you would, tell us about some of the things that you started noticing after you and your family moved in on this property. What were some of the strange things that you started noticing right away? Yeah, we were fresh from Southern California, and we were. We were all tan and blonde and, you know, very optimistic. And we moved into this awful single white trailer that hadn't been lived in

obviously years. And right out of the gate, unusual things were happening. Of course, we took this in all stride because we'd never been in that kind of living situation in the forest. You know, we were all city kids. So everything was new, and there was a lot of mystery to it. And mom and dad got into the swing of the things, like a green acres kind of thing. They got goats, you know, they got chickens and that whole smear.

And there was always lots of sounds in the woods that, like, what in the world is that? I don't know. I had to ask. Sometimes dad even said, you know, I'm not sure. And, of course, he was the Oracle of all things cool, and I had to ask him.

And animals would disappear. We had found the goats, well, what was left of them? Eventually, the very last goat in a tree of all places. and, you know, of course, in my young mind at the time I was 10 and, you know, I thought, okay, you know, and they didn't even explain it to me. But certainly my dad and mom and my oldest brother and sister, they knew. And the overarching thrust here is that I didn't have any fear because mom and dad said there was no reason to fear.

year. And I never really was the first couple of years of all these unknown things. And we would clean the place up like we had to. And one afternoon, we were cleaning the vines off the side of the house, which was extensive. There were the vine patches there and strawberry and briar patches were laughable. It's ridiculous. And the side of the single white old trailer was just it was pounded, you know, and I thought, what in the world as a kid? I said, who, you know, dad, what happened here? You know, who would do this to their home? And he, of course, you know, said, well, this must be where they stacked their firewood for the year. But it was from, you know, all the way to the top of the single-white trailer that was really actually tall at the sit on the foundation.

And just again and again and again, that these things would pop up. And, you know, dad was the kind of man where he didn't like to see his family frightened. So they logically had to become professional liars to keep us from being scared. We would ask where the animals went. No real answer until we started finding. what was left are the animals and they were, if you could literally just grab some of these animals from one end to the next and just pull.

That's, you know, they weren't like chewed on. Yeah, that's terrifying. So they weren't chewed on. They were basically torn apart. And I know from what you and I were talking about earlier, I imagine as a 10-year-old boy that would terrify you. Before you on, I want to ask you a quick question. You talked about the trailer being pounded on.

Did it look like fists were pounding on it? They were very big. They were very big indentations as if you would see a vehicle or a building or something that had gone through a hail storm. But this was consistent three quarters of the way down this thing to even the very top of it. And of course, my young mind, you know, I couldn't even hazard a guess. I just said, okay, dad, let's finish cleaning up, you know, let's keep going. And you don't, your dad says something, you don't question it. You just say, sure, okay, pop.

And mom, the place was in such, the place was in such bad shape. Mom took all the, literally the rotten curtains down from every window, the sliding glass door, everything. It was just, you know, even took the carpet out of this place. and so we started hearing things at night that were that were extremely loud extremely close and there was more than once where dad got off work and it's slam dark it's it's hard to describe to people how dark and quiet it is there and he had come in that door rapidly and of course and how I know what was happening to him.

The girls seen these things first. There was at least four of them. They would literally, these animals, man, they're animals. That's everything they did. They were just, you know. And I was told that they were just animals. They would just walk right up to the windows. and I didn't see him right away.

The girls always seen them probably because they were scared. And three of them would randomly get up, scream and run out of the room, and I would just join them and wouldn't understand why we're running and screaming, right? And this went on for some time, and it got worse, and then very loud bangs would happen.

They would beat on things. be the porch would start banging the back of this, just the very back where not the place would we cleared off, the vines would just bang the whole, shook this old crummy single wide. So we made plans to, and we followed through. Dad had cleared off clearing up the hill a little bit more and got a new double wide, a really nice trailer in. We thought, okay, this is pretty cool. Dad moved in the men that worked for him

because he was one of the bigwigs out there at that nuke plant into this trailer. And he knew that there was trouble. And he'd asked these men that would come stay. He says, I'm not going to charge you a dime. But you, and dad used a lot of profanity. But, you know, he goes, I need you to air these things out. And these were, these were not academic people. These were some of the toughest hombres you would ever meet these steam fitters,

boilermakers, pipe fitters, you know, the winters there in rainier were unbelievable. And these guys worked out in it. And they were always around, always, they're always friendly. Big, tough guys. And dad started harvesting the timber. And as soon as he started harvesting the timber on this land, they came out. They had no fear of us at first. They would just come out of the woodline and just stand there. There was two smaller ones. Well, how small is, you know, They were huge, but they were like almost identical. And then there was a much larger one. And she was like, I don't know, she, I don't know what it was. She was like a blocky kind of like a Flintstone character. It was cartoonish.

But the very largest one was, I can't think of a single animal that you would compare it to. I can't think of a single one, but he was the problem. He was the problem. He would run by, run by the place, and you could hear it coming the footsteps that this animal was. And it was regular. These animals made themselves known. until they started getting shot at. Everything that dad did on the land and everything that dad,

everybody that dad brought up there on that hill had problems with these animals. From the three men that came up that drilled the water well for the new place, they would yell at dad. They left twice on purpose. I remember them yelling at my dad and my dad yelling back at them. And they're yelling at him saying, hey, you got to get a handle on these damn animals, Dean. Yeah, and I know we're just now starting to get into what happened,

but what were some of the things that the creatures were doing? They were, it was, of all things, it was like property that they would damage things all the way from, they'd throw stuff around, they'd just throw stuff around, and if they couldn't throw it around, they would pummel it. You're like, what in the world? Even dad bought these timber fallers all new chain saws because they would do a thing. And I don't know, it was a thing for them. They would leave their saws there on site wherever they were and they'd run a chain around a tree and through the saws, through the handles.

And he bought a new saws. He always boastfully said, yes, Sue, all he'd be. put you in a white vinyl picket fence and the whole Marianne to the new place. And they pummeled that into the ground like it would take a truck to flat out. And it draws me to that night where the large one was standing by

the brand new pump house that dad and his buddy had built. And it's a pretty good size one. And it's still there. It's like a 10 by 10. 10 typical 8 feet tall. Well, the large one, and there was a light on this one, and it was the only light out in front at the time. Dad seen this thing.

I didn't see it. And we knew when dad comes stomping through the house from his gun case, it's on. And he opened the big front window where the couch is, and he literally put his, he just, he didn't want to wait. put that rifle through the screen. And that's what kind of surprised me because I knew he was pissed. And he shot this thing, Wes. I seen it as clear as I'm looking down at one of my vehicles right now.

And like in the left shoulder area, you can see things fly off this animal of this, like his left shoulder clearly. and it spun around before that stuff in the air you stopped flying and it was gone. So they got even more verbal. About three times a week, you would hear them, and they all sounded, some would be howling,

and the other ones would be, at least one of them would be like a roar. Like the only sound I can kind of compare it to was when I was in Florida for a short time, like if you heard an alligator grumble, you know, bellow, but only much more obviously. And I was never afraid because I'd look at my dad and just say, well, that's what in the world is that. And he'd always, you know, say, don't worry about a little buddy. They're just animals and we'll take care of them.

and there's a lot of good men up here and there's nothing to worry about it. And that was it. You know, you took, you know, because your dad was, you know, he was this five foot tall pipe fitter that resembled Josimity Sam. He was a Korean War veteran.

You know, just, you know, a tough guy. You're like, okay, pop, sure. And that was it. Can I ask you, Wade, after your dad shot the creature, did they ever become violent and did things ramp up? They got what, well, yeah, what they got is they, I don't care what you see on TV of these four-legged animals running fast.

That's, you're like, yeah, you need some more steam there. But these things got, they got fast, for lack of a better word. They would, they would come out of the wood line and immediately take off. and it's like nothing nothing is that fast there's nothing that these things

could not run and all four of them that it didn't matter the two smaller ones the midsize one or the bigger one and they would crawl I think

it just because we would that purposely let the grass grow between the new double wide and this old barn. And you would be walking towards the barn and you'd come across this beat down path. And that was like eight feet wide. And just pounded down.

And I remember my oldest brother, Dean, saying to my dad, I won't use profanity and says, they're crawling. And of course, dad says, ah, come on, you know, la, la, la, la. He goes, no, Dad, I'm not making this up.

They're crawling. And he goes, okay, well, that's new as well. But these things, after Dad shot, the larger one, they started, they wouldn't just meander, like, the first time I've seen the larger one. They were running, literally running. And it's like, you know, you know that figure, Flat Stanley, that one cartoonish kind of thing, and you would take flat Stanley everywhere you went and take a picture of him. Well, imagine like taking a flat paper cut out

and hardly moving it like it wasn't articulate and just zapping across from point to point B. It was uncanny. It was uncanny, but they would start running everywhere. Yeah, they didn't want to get shot. You know, they were in harm's way. Now, I know when you and I were talking last, night you were talking about when you first saw them, they would just kind of come out of the woodline and

meander and kind of look at everything and now they're dodging bullets. And so they're a little bit more leery. And I want to get into the creature's appearance because it sounds like a family group is on the property. And I'm very curious about the appearance. Before we get into appearances of the creature, what are some other things that happened on the property? Well, it's just three years worth of like a collage of small things called small things that happened, but it was so consistent. Like in the beginning, they just walk up to the window and look through. And these are, these are, well, they're hideous. And each face on all four of them are different.

They started getting, they never. not a single one of them ever came out of the woods and ran right at us but it got to the point two years later it was been a couple years now

where mom had she had had enough and mom was a cardiac patient we all knew not to startle mom so dad informed us one night that mom and the girls are going to leave to

Washington State and the very next day they did in that day that they left that evening dad got my brother and I and it was four guys living in that place down there and Al the old man that dad bought the land from and of course he was a Marine

and that's how he sounded he says all right girls are gone it's it's open season whatever it takes to take these damn things out because it caused him a lot of heartache. He wanted to continue to harvest the timber, and the timber fallers were,

they would talk to the pipe fitters saying, hey, can you guys come down and just hang out while we're there? And a couple of you can stay up here at the property and still fulfill your obligation. And I think they did, and I don't see why not. But these things got fast, and that was a game changer because you didn't, you know, you didn't know, you didn't know these things could be on you.

You didn't even know that they were there. And that went on for another year. They got loud. They got bold, very matter of fact. And they would, they never pounded on the side of the new place. We could see their tracks that they looked. left everywhere. They were as common as just as it's not a surprise.

There was a lot of people by the end of that third year from all those timber fallers, the well drillers, the, I think the power company that came and hooked up to power pole and all that stuff, the police department, the, the, the police department, the, the Rangers, all those pipe fitters, all those tradesmen that stated, that single wide thing. There was a lot of people in the know by the end of the third year. And these were stone-faced, dead-level solid people when they were talking about this, these animals. And the overarching importance to the land of it, and as far as everybody was concerned that I'm aware of,

was the timber. This was hundreds of old growth that I was aware of. And everybody kind of in that small town at the time, everybody got a piece of that, but it was important to harvest that timber. It was in everybody's best interest, and that's why everybody kind of cooperated. But there was that a few months before

we had that nuke plant was finished and dad was standing in the front driveway and he was looking at somebody from the forestry department and I believe one of the police officers

from down the hill and he's looking up at him with his finger and yelling profanities at these men saying I don't you know I don't give a you know who you are or what you want done, this is my land, and I'll do as a damn plea. He says, they're going to die if I can possibly get the chance.

Because you didn't tell my dad what to do. He's just, he wasn't one of those men that you could show up on his land and tell him how it was going to be. Did the men show up to tell your dad specifically to stop shooting at these creatures? Yes. Yes. They weren't talking about anything else. And so that's going on like six months where I was told point blank, these are animals. They are dangerous.

As you're aware of, they can get you. And these two men showed up. And this was after like two and a half years of a lot of bull swat, you know, and dad just, you're not going to show up and threaten that guy saying he can't do that or anymore. Yeah, it's strange when they show up to tell you don't shoot at a creature that supposedly doesn't exist. And I know you're a newer listener to the show, Wade, and there's a reason why I'm asking you this. The two guys that showed up, do you remember what agencies they were with or do you remember what they looked at? look like? Yeah.

That's funny. One guy was wearing, and it's funny how they dressed back then. If you've ever seen that movie Apollo 13 and you can see them all, all these men and white short sleeve shirts and polyester pants and greasy black hair or flex. That's how the one guy looked. But the forestry department guy was, he was every big and tough and gruff and unshaved. even as a lot of those pipe fitters as Taden and Dad's trailer down there, you know. And he was the most verbal.

You know, he kept, you know, looking down at dad and just saying, this is how I don't, you know, this is how it's going to be. And, of course, dad was pointing back at him yelling profanity. But the guy with the short white shirt and the big thick black frame glass. is he was calm and he would say look dean please be reasonable meet us halfway across the street on this one and he you know dad would tell him to you know go jump in a lake as well that man in a white shirt was was calm and and really articulate yeah it's strange and I know that you're kind of a again you're kind of a newer listener I don't know if you've gotten to any of those shows or not but for a period of time I really looked into these two guys

guys that show up. And I really don't know what to make of it. And what's strange, though, is their appearance and the way they behave doesn't change, it doesn't change at all throughout the years. Someone from the 60s who shot one of these creatures describes a guy from the forestry department showing up. He has a beard, and he's kind of a rough looking guy, and he's really mouthy when he shows up. The other guy claims he's a cop. He's, you know, dressed very professional, and he's very polite. It's almost like good cop, bad cop shows up. But what's weird about it is their appearance doesn't change

and their behavior doesn't change. I just don't know what to make of it. Well, I recognized the vehicle because there was only one vehicle and it was from, I recognized the emblem on the side of the vehicle and they both came in the same vehicle. And that's why I didn't think twice about it once I walked out the door. But I didn't recognize either one of the men, but I recognized the vehicle.

I'm like, oh, okay, no big deal. And I didn't think twice about it until I round the corner and there they were standing there yelling at each other. And it didn't, it did not go those two men's way. It did not. There was at least maybe another half of year and everything just kept up. You know, we couldn't, there was from the double wide up to the main drag. On one side, the trees were right up against that road because that road had to be cut in.

And we were never able to just walk up there and get the mail or take the trash up up there because that we could, dad said you could get, what do we call it, bum rushed, bum rushed and not see him because there was a pretty good clearing around the double wide at least by a couple hundred feet all the way around. this thing easily if not more but the those two guys they talked to the two people across the street I don't know what they said to them but the truck was in their driveway and we knew that for sure because dad immediately said well let's go down and get some beer and we stopped at the top of this driveway and they went from one place there was nobody home and they went to the next place those two people were nice in those

houses and you'd see him maybe once a month and you'd smile and wave, they were very nice. They never came out at night at all. You would never see them out and it kind of makes sense the behaviors of the adults kind of felt deaf on me

a little bit because even Bell down in this homemade cabin that was just ridiculous. And I'm standing right next to my mother, and my mother was asking Bell, if you see this one, and she's pointing down at me. And she goes, can you make sure he runs back up to the house? And Bell had this huge, like five-gallon mason jar full of these lemon drops that I really

love. And she goes, oh, don't worry. I got his attention. She would always give me these candies. Yeah, and I'm getting a little bit of feedback, Wade. I don't know if you're, I'm getting a bunch of wind coming through. And that's okay. I'm just giving you a heads up on it.

Yeah, and so those were your neighbors that you were talking about. And it is strange when people have these things on their property, they'll often describe that. You know, my neighbors, no one seems to go out at night. Or as soon as the sun goes down, everyone's inside until they figure out why. One of the questions I want to ask you, so there was four of these creatures. Would you kind of describe each one of them? Well, the largest one was the most bold. He was kind of like if you had a really wide, round face and you made the lips kind of large and these huge black eyes and you just kind of pulled it down, that's what he kind of looked like.

the two of the smallest ones looked like I guess they would close to look like just your regular monkeys like chimpanzees there was a little bit of difference but they both had their eyes on all four animals

their eyes are larger the large blocky one second to the largest they're just ugly they're just ugly and I can visualize them she had a lot of she had a really round or I don't know if she had a really round face

really wide lips and they all looked a little bit different from one another but the large male was just hideous and you'd look over at the window and there's their face right up pretty much just touching the window. I have no doubt now that they could see us as clear as we could see them in the daytime if it was nighttime. The two smaller ones, they were, you could see, they would like move more.

They wouldn't be because none of them moved their faces. But the two smaller ones, they would like move their head and shoulders a little bit and you can see their eyes move left and right just as clear as a bell so they were like curious you know what's what's going on in that beatable single white trailer and because they

they know when they did that you know all the people inside would go run in and screaming you know I don't know what that means but they were they were all very just hideous looking there's a place here in

central Oregon and it's called the day ranch and you can go see these monkeys that these people take in and they all look the same and they're all like clones and but not not these four animals they're all dramatically they're not dramatically they all looked different yeah wait and i know your opinion is that it's an animal and i respect your opinion and so this might seem like a ridiculous question but did they appear to be more animal like or did they appear to be more animal like or did they appear to be more manlike? No, these were very animal-like.

The only thing, I guess, human about them is just that they had, you know, nostrils of mouth and eyeballs. Nothing about these animals said human at all. None of their attributes, other than having a torso, a head, arms, and body, telling me that these are human. They're not human.

These are something else. Nothing moves that fast. No human, no animal that I could think of. And they're doing it on purpose. They know that we're seeing them. We stand out on a deck. Here they come. At least one of them.

And they would take off and run the tree line. You're like, one in the world. You couldn't get a shot on one of them when they're on the move. That's not going to happen. That's not an option. Yeah, I hear you. I hear you. You know, one thing I want to ask you,

Wade, do you keep using the word hideous when you are describing these creatures? And it's not that I don't disagree with you by any means. I think you're actually spot on. But for the audience who's maybe never seen one, can you define that? What do you mean when he say that they're hideous? Well, everything was out of proportion. Their mouths were obviously big. Their nostrils would are up a little bit and huge.

Their eyes, all their eyes were huge black eyes. Their foreheads were enormous. They didn't have. ears like a dog or they're not floppy or pointed. They were like stubs on each side of their head. I don't know if it was fur or hair or whatever it was. They were all a little bit different colored except the largest one. He was kind of reddish and we got a darn good look at him.

These were ugly. These are very spooky, ugly animals that were. It seemed unnatural, but they were very physical thing. So it's like if you could draw a monster to scare people, that would get it done. Especially the largest one, he was the ugliest. It's like if you took a really big face and just made everything extra large and then just made it kind of saggy, that was him. and he never had any expression on his face.

He hardly ever moved like when he was at the window, or we'd see him in a roofline, or standing at the corner of the double wide, or wherever we would see him. He'd never, but the two smaller ones would, they would kind of move a little bit, and you can see their eyes move. Yeah, I feel for you, Wade,

you know, growing up as a kid and you got to grow up around these things. I know it went on for three years, but, you know, when you're 10, three years might as well be a lifetime. I wanted to ask you, after, you know, this was well over 40 years ago, have you been back to the property? You know, I did. And for all the right reasons, at least at the time I thought, I got a new motorcycle, like I always do. I like to take long trips. And I thought, you know, what the heck?

I'll go north from where I lived. And I went there unannounced to that place specifically. And it was, it changed a lot, obviously. And there was two bachelors that were living in this place. And of course, I'm a stranger. Yeah, I said, hi, I'm, you know, John Smith. And, you know, back in the day, we moved from California and moved here and we lived in that place there. and dad put in this place

and we started harvesting timber and the nuke plant was done and we moved off and they and when I, as soon as I said the words my dad put this place in and started harvesting timber, their faces changed and these are mature men. These are 65 year at least.

Their whole demeanor changed. And they looked at each other and they started looking down, looking around. And that whole mood changed. Like you're no longer just being friendly to a stranger. And that's when I knew that they were still having trouble there. The place was just beat.

It was beat up. It was more than just weathered. So I didn't talk a heck of a lot more. But they knew. you can tell they you and you know from my profession I deal with a lot of people spending a lot of money very serious uh contracts and so I can tell human behavior like yeah you you know don't you so it's kind of funny though even to this day well I don't know maybe it's just human behavior I don't haven't talked to a shrink or anything is I still don't feel this uh this fear that you would think that you would. Even when I watch scary movies, you know, Nymer and Elm Street,

you know, those kind of, or, you know, any kind of scary movie or read a scary Dean Coon's book or anything, that comes in like a laughable second. You know, it doesn't just like,

yeah, whatever, and you give it to slow clap because it's laughable. And that's not scary. Yeah, you want scary? I know scary.

Yeah, I get it, man. I mean, Dean Coons isn't going to write a horror novel that's going to terrify you when you have these things on your property. And, you know, it's crazy. At such a young age that you were exposed to this. You know, one thing, I normally ask everyone on the show, what do you think Sasquatch is? And there's no wrong answer because no one really knows. And I know throughout just listening to you that it's an animal in your head. And there's nothing wrong with that.

and you could be right. But would you define that a little bit more? I think it's a unique thing. I think it's a completely unique animal. It's not, I don't know what they call those specific monkeys. It's, and it's certainly not like one of us, homo sapien. This, whatever they are, they're completely unique and their own thing. They're not stupid.

Any schoolboy can tell that they have a learned behaviors on how they conducted themselves, how they acted. It was repetitive. It was predictable. So they're not just like some dumb scavengering animal. These animals had it together. and if you go after one of these things, you're going to die. There's, especially the large one. There, you know, the things that they did and as fast as they are, clearly,

you go ahead and jump in your vehicle. It's not going to make any difference. They were starting to be shot at on the land out of desperation, not just greed for the temper. So when I get back to it, they're their own thing, whatever they are, if they are hassling your family for a long period of time, just like any other animal,

they need to be taken care of one way or the other. But they're not to be messed with. You can't just walk out in the woods and say, hey, you know, stand still while I take a picture. it's not one of those kind of deals. They started getting shot at on the regular. They had no fear of us. And if they don't feel, we're human beings, we're awful.

We're the worst things on the planet. And if they're not afraid of us, then gee whiz, you're in trouble. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. And what a way for you to grow up. You know, growing up is hard enough. And now you have these things on your property. and you're dealing with it. It's kind of a blessing and a curse.

No one really wants to deal with them. But in the same breath, you had this great opportunity to watch what they do. Why do they do what they do? What do they look like? It's a blessing and a curse for sure. And I can't think enough

for taking the time to come on. I know it's something very personal that happened to you and your family. And I can't think enough for coming on, man. I really enjoyed talking with you, Wade. Thank you. Wes, and you have a good evening.

And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. If you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Until next time, everyone.