Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:847 Encounter In Connecticut On Family Property

Episode Date: April 22, 2022

A listener writes "I recently came across your podcast on Spotify and figured I would reach out to you. A few years ago I had two brief sightings and heard an odd vocalizations. At my home in CT. At the time I reached out to the BFRO and reported them. Eventually after years it was posted on their site as a class A sighting but after trying to get back in touch with them it's been radio silence. I love your show and have a few encounters I'd be like to share!. Let me know if you are interested in some more info!"

It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind. It either heard me or smelt me, and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up. That shocked me. They don't make people that big. The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything moved like that in my life. What a whale would you go on? They were screaming at each other in gibberish.

It sounded like a language and they were chuntering away back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forward. I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet of what I saw were bears. What'd he report? Jesus quake, you better. Sheriff, see ya! Hello? Hello? Get somebody out here.

What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about six foot nine, I don't know. Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right aty. Uh-uh. This is Kaysson from East Tennessee, and you're listening to Saskatch Carnacles. Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight.

Got a great show plan for you. We're going to be chatting with Matt. And eight years ago, Matt was out on the property and had a strange run-in with a creature out there. He didn't really believe in Bigfoot prior to this, but he had no explanation for what he saw. So we'll be going into that tonight along with some vocalizations. And speaking of vocalizations, there was a listener that sent this to me. This happened in April of 2021 in Maine. He was out with his family and was doing some tree knocking and got a strange response.

Let's take a listen. That is not an owl. Shh. Did you not just hear that? Yeah, I didn't hear it. I just did some tree knocking. Now I'll send it's loud again. Very cool.

And I put this up on Sasquatch Chronicles, up on the blog. If you want to listen to it again, if you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance, check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com. you can become a member and get additional shows. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Matt to the show. Matt, thanks for coming on.

Yeah, thanks for having me. It's a pleasure. The pleasure's mine having you on, Matt, and I'm fascinated by your encounter because from talking to you, I know you weren't really into Sasquatch, Bigfoot, no one really in your family was. And you and your dad kind of joked about things at times,

But if you would, tell me a little bit about this property out there in Connecticut. Is it a family property that you guys own? Yeah. So it's been in my family for close to 300 years now at this point. All farmland. My grandfather was a farmer. He kind of did, you know, not like specifically dairy or meat. He kind of did a little bit of everything.

So, you know, he had cows. He had horses. I don't know if he had like pigs, but, and then he, you know, he had his crops with silos and stuff like that. So it was active farmland for quite some time. He passed before I was born, and that's when my dad inherited the property. And my dad is grew up a farmer, but didn't really have much interest in continuing farming. So at that point, we pretty much stopped all sort of. farming and just kind of had the land. And, you know, when my grandfather owned it, you know, he at one time

had close to 300 something acres. You know, then, you know, around the time of my sighting, you know, we were down to about 36. You know, we kind of gave some to the town, gave some to the Nature Conservancy, donated some to the state. And so we were down to about 36 acres, most of which is field and then part of it is a wooded area. You know, there's a pretty prominent river slash lake about a mile downhill from, I kind of sit on top of a hill. And so you have the field, which is probably, I'd say, 20 to 25 acres and then woods for, you know, the next 10 to 5 to 10.

and then you probably have about, oh, I don't know, maybe, you know, less than a mile until you get to this pretty major waterway. Sounds nice. Sounds really nice. And I appreciate you kind of giving us a description of this property. And there's a lot of places in Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, when you get outside of the cities, that, you know, if you can look at pictures of it, And if you told me it's Washington State, I'd probably believe you. Beautiful and lush and sounds like a really nice property.

Being that your family has owned this property for so long, was there anyone else throughout your life, like your grandfather, or anyone else on the property that talked about seeing weird things or hearing odd noises? I don't remember my dad specifically saying anything about my grandfather having any sort of, experiences, but my dad had, you know, he, we were talking about Bigfoot one day and kind of a joking manner. And it was prior to, to my experience and, and, you know, the research I've done. And, you know, I kind of just laughed at it, but he was being serious, you know, like that kind of, you know, it was like a joking conversation. And he's like, oh, no, I've seen one. I was like,

wait, what? He's like, yeah, I've seen one. And then we kind of, like, moved on. And, So after my experience, I went back and, you know, asked a little bit more. I hear you. Well, we'll come back to that conversation. And I understand why people joke around about it. You know, it sounds ridiculous until you see it. So I completely get it. So in 2014, you're out on the property.

If you would, just kind of tell us what you were doing and walk us into what happened. All right. So, you know, regular day, nothing out of the unusual. It was early evening. And we had a golden retriever. She was out doing her thing. She started barking like crazy. So I said, all right, I got to get the dog in. And when I walked outside, I came. So when you walk out of my house, we had like a patio and then a little bit of field and a pool and a pool house area. and that's all fenced in, and behind that's all the old farmland. And she never had gone back there, and she was kind of standing at that back fence, that back fence, like barking, which was weird. So I had walked down there, and I noticed a group of deer, you know, running like crazy across the field, like they were being chased. And I looked behind them, and that's when I saw what I believe to have been a big. foot. It's just kind of running after them. And the grass was, you know, probably between four to five foot at the time. And this thing was towering above it. I saw from about the waist up. It,

it was moving quickly like it was running. But this isn't a field that's been maintained. So there's a lot of brambles, small saplings of trees. You know, it's not something that a human could easily run through, like, without hesitation or without even, like, maybe a machete or something. And this thing was just going after the deer, you know, and then everything, they kind of disappeared into the woods there. And I just kind of, like, I sat there in awe. Like, did I just see what I think I saw and you know i i i don't think i even really believed it at first i was like oh that you know that must have been a bear but i was like no way it was i mean that thing was clearly upright you know it just it it shocked me how easily it was moving through the land and um you know you had that

one episode or actually i've heard it in a couple of your episodes where people refer to the movement as kind of like one of those moving escalators in the airport that you like walk on, where it's almost just like it was gliding along. And it was really, really, really odd. And, you know, it's scared because it was a big animal. And, you know, I'm not, we see a good amount of black bear. Where I'm at, we actually have a very high population of black bear. You know, and I had never seen a black bear like this.

The other thing that set aside was the color. Black bears are obviously, you know, they're black. And you can see that, you know, they're black. This thing was clearly like a dark brown. You could almost see kind of like a, you know, like had like a couple shades of brown in it. Like it wasn't just one solid color, like a black bear. And yeah.

So that was the first experience that summer. Yeah, I would imagine that would have been eye opening. How far away from you was this thing running down the deer? If I had to guess, I'd say maybe 100 to 200 feet. You know, it was close but not, you know, where I felt like I was personally in danger. You know, I don't even think the thing noticed that I was there. you know, it was almost like unfazed. Yeah, I think it's one of those things, especially for hunters, you know, people have been out their whole life and they see something like this.

They immediately think Black Bear, but the math isn't adding up as far as what they're seeing. And so they're really thrown off by it. I realize all of this is happening very, very quickly. Was there any details that you remember kind of stick with you from looking at this thing? you know, it didn't look like me, like to me, you know, when like people run their arms are kind of up by their side or even those kind of like ridiculous speedwalk in where you got the really exaggerated arm pumps. You know, it wasn't anything like that. Like the arms were moving back and forth, but it was like low. You know, they weren't raised up.

I did notice, you know, very, very broad shoulders. And it did have sort of like a hunch, not like a slouch. Like it wasn't like it had bad posture. It just seemed like that's how the build was. Like its head was slightly forward. And it came to a very like broad front. And then, you know, I couldn't make out like a nose or ears or anything like that. A lot of different eyewitnesses will say, you know, it wasn't really slouched over, but they do kind of have a weird, like a hunch over when you see them upright.

I know there's another sighting we're going to talk about, and I'll play this piece of audio you sent me. Before we get into that, at this point, did you go talk to your dad or was it much later? No, so this was actually when I approached my dad because I remembered. I was like, okay, maybe he wasn't joking. and at that time, I started digging pretty heavily into sightings. You know, and a lot of them do come from out your way. You know, you don't get too many over here in my neck of the woods. So, you know, I started digging a lot,

and I've actually found that the county I'm in has the highest siting reports in Connecticut. And that was kind of a little bit more like, okay, maybe I did see the Sasquatch. And so I asked my dad about this, about his report. And he used to go snapping turtle fishing with his grandfather. Just down the road, a little bit closer to the lake, there's a little pond. And it's kind of buried in the woods, you know, you got a hike to get in there. And they were out in a little skiff fishing for snapping turtles, which I don't know how you do.

that. I've never done that, but he said that they saw something moving through the woods with ease and it kind of stopped and peered out behind a tree and

looked at them and then moved on kind of just like you know, didn't make any sounds or didn't like you know, bluff charge like some people talk about. It just sort of disappeared as quickly as it appeared.

He said that he was terrified, and he remembers it, you know, he remembers seeing this thing upright on two legs. I think he said his grandfather just tried to, you know, say, oh, no, that was just a bear. It's okay, you know, can't hurt us wearing a boat.

But my dad remember, and you can see in his face when he, when he was telling the story, just that fear that he experienced. And that's when I knew that, okay, you know, he clearly saw something that that was unusual and not normal for this area. Yeah, it's amazing to me how conversations always kind of start out in a joking manner and how they kind of evolved. When your dad told you that, I mean, what was this conversation like when your dad told you this? And then you told them what happened to you?

I think at first he kind of thought I was just like I was joking, you know, kind of playing off of the conversation we had had previous, you know, whatever that was. But then, you know, he really, and I told him, I was like, no, no, I'm serious. I think I just saw this. That's when he said, you know, I believe you and shared his sighting. And, you know, he also said, you know, strange sounds that he couldn't identify. And, you know, I could just tell the sincerity in his eyes when he was telling me that story. I mean, you could physically see the emotion coming back to him. And that was kind of like the, yeah, you saw a big foot, you know. Yeah, that's cool that you and your dad had a chance to kind of talk about it.

It makes a big difference when, you know, someone believes you. And they go, I believe what you saw as opposed to cracking jokes. This wasn't your only siting, though. I know you had another siding on the property. If you would, tell us about it. When did the next siding occur? Maybe like two months afterwards, so still the same summer. We have a barn that has an elevated, like a second-story deck,

and we chopped the railings off of it and made it into like a driving range. So we used to just hit golf balls into the back field. a buddy of mine and I were sitting there just hitting golf balls listening to music and out of the trees came this thing. Kind of meandered out and then I think it kind of became aware of our presence there because we had music going and, you know, hitting golf balls its way. And, you know, it kind of looked up at us, looked around and then like just retreating. treat it back into the woods. You know, I pointed it out to my buddy. I was like, hey, do you see that over there?

Like, that's not, what is that? And, you know, so we kind of sat there and watched it for a little while. It was just, it was like one of those things where the two of us looked at each other and were like puzzled. You know, like, did that really just happen? And I told him about the, the experience I had had, you know, a month prior. You know, he didn't believe me at first. And I said, you know, well, the thing is brown, right? He goes, yeah.

It was like, it was on two eggs, right? Yeah. You know, what do you think it was? And, you know, he couldn't really come up with anything that, you know, he wasn't like, oh, well, it must have been a bear. And that's, you know, I mean, that's the only thing really in this region that you could possibly confuse a Sasquatch with is the black bear. You know, we don't have any other kind of bear here. The only real predators we have coyotes and occasional wolf bobcat, but nothing that size. You know, this thing was huge.

You know, I used the grass as a kind of a scale again. I mean, the grass was still about that five-foot range. You know, we didn't hay it. And this thing, I mean, had to be another five-foot above that. It was just massive. Yeah, sounds like it was. So you guys are hitting golf balls on the property and this thing walks out and kind of looks in your general direction. How far away from you was this thing when it came out of the wood line?

This was at the, he came out of the woods just like the very end of the field. It was probably like a football, like a football field, like 100 yards or so. Can I ask you, did it appear to be, did it look like the same one? you saw before. I mean, I know you don't know if it's the same one or not, but did it kind of look like the same one you saw before? Yeah, the size seemed, you know, approximately the same. And, you know, I have a hard time believing there's any sort of family group in that area. You know, I think one could get away with, you know, hanging around a little bit and, you know, have enough room to kind of not be seen, but I think multiple would have caused an uproar.

So I do believe it was the same one. Yeah, and seeing this saying second time around, was there any details that stood out to you? Not particularly as much as the first. You know, it was quite a bit further away. But, you know, just the size for sure, you know, it was huge. the broadness of its shoulders, like how wide it was at the shoulders, you know? If I had to guess, you know,

it was anywhere between three and a half to four and a half foot wide at the shoulders. And, you know, that's really all, I couldn't see any facial attributes from that range. I didn't have any binoculars on me or anything like. that. So, you know, I didn't get a great look at it, but I, you know, it came out long enough to observe what, you know, to observe it and, and to make the connection to the previous sighting I had had. Yeah, I hear you. I was curious if you had noticed anything different,

kind of the second time around. And, you know, Matt, Sasquatch's behavior really, it's bizarre to me. You know, a lot of people, they'll, they'll say it's an elusive animal and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But, you know, what's strange is in a lot of, like roadside crossings, for example, they'll step in front of people's cars, which is strange to me. And this behavior is very strange to me. You know, it's kind of like, it's not really aggressive. It kind of reminds me of like a bomb or like an old man coming out being like,

the hell are you guys doing over there? You know, that's kind of the impression I get when I hear this encounter. What are your thoughts? Yeah, no, and you know, I like, it literally, I felt like it was a grumpy old man, like coming out like, what the hell are you doing? You know, like, you're just, you're disturbing me. You know, like came out and it kind of had this like disgusted kind of movement to it, you know? And then it just kind of mozied back into the woods. And, you know, it's interesting because, you know, you do hear the stories of people being.

rough charged and aggressive behavior. And there wasn't really anything aggressive about this behavior. It was more of just kind of a checking out to see what was going on. Have you ever looked around the property to see if there was anything weird or strange? So I have. I mean, I spent a lot of time in those woods when I was younger, hiking around. But I don't really ever remember finding any sort of like I never saw a footprint. nothing, you know, too strange.

You know, we ran into a coyote den one time, which was a little terrifying. But yeah, and so we actually, the next day, had gone down there to kind of investigate a little bit. And, you know, we didn't see anything too out of the ordinary. I do remember seeing kind of right where it came out is where we aim to go in. And there was a branch, a couple branches that were probably, you know, almost 10 foot up that had been kind of snapped like something had moved them to get through. And, you know, the height of that was pretty, to see that, you know, like something cleared its own path, you know, to kind of come out and see what was going on. That was really the only thing I remember seeing. we didn't see anything, you know, any carcasses of animals or anything like that.

Yeah, well, I'm glad you guys went to investigate. A lot of times people don't. I get why they don't, but it's nice to hear that you went looking for evidence of what you're seeing, you know, and all of this is happening in a short period of time from your first encounter to your second one. I know it was a few months, but it was relatively close together. you sent me this piece of audio. It's weird. It kind of reminds me of a pig, but not really. Where did you record this at? Was this on the property?

Kind of tell me about how you came about recording this. So this is one that I heard when I was camping a few years later. I went camping. I kind of had one of those F Society months where I just kind of went off grid and disappeared. and I was doing a little bit of hiking over on the Appalachian Trail, which isn't too far from my house. You know, I had woken up around two in the morning to that sound outside of my tent.

And, you know, I don't want to get myself in trouble here, but I wasn't really following the rules. I was, you know, you're supposed to camp in designated areas and stuff. And I kind of walked off the trail and found my own spot kind of secluded. from everything and was out there which is kind of you know I had a small fire you know cooked up my dinner and it turned in and then I woke up to that sound the interesting thing about that too is you know because I wasn't at one of the designated camping sites where they usually have bear boxes you know like big metal boxes where you can put your food in and lock so the bears don't get to it

I went out and did a bear bag so you know I walked to a fair distance away from my camp and strung up my food in a bag between two trees about 15 feet up when I went to retrieve it in the morning, it was gone. It wasn't like, like you'd think if a bear got to it. I mean, the only way it would have gotten to it was a climbed out, climbed up the tree, climbed on to this skinny branch that would have broken with the weight of a bear. and then fall into the ground and run away with whatever it could get at, you know. But like when you see a bear like going through trash and stuff, they're not like grabbing a trash bag and carrying it away, you know?

And when I got there, the bag was completely gone. There wasn't like it didn't look like something was rummaging through anything there. And the string was still up over the tree. and you could tell that the knot I had tied had been untied. Like it wasn't it wasn't like snapped or ripped, you know, it was clearly untied. Like you know when you untie a tight knot, you can see kind of like the folds and the rope still. Yeah. Yeah.

So, I mean, it had to be something with thumbs, you know, to be able to untie a knot and then and walk off. off with this. It just, it was strange to me. You know, I kind of thought to myself, well, you know, maybe a ranger came by and saw it and, you know, took it down because I wasn't supposed to be where I was. But it was so early in the morning, you know, I got out there around sunrise. And it just seemed unlikely that that would have been the case. Yeah, and I think a ranger, you know, if that happens, they're going to come looking to see who's not, where they're supposed to be. That is strange.

And the vocal, though, you know, when I first heard it, my immediate thought was, oh, that's a hog. And then I listened to it again, I was like, I don't think that's a hog. Let's take another listen. Yeah, it's weird. I don't have a lot of experience with hogs, but it's strange, man. And you heard this saying walking around your camp? Yeah, so, you know, it kind of, when I hit record on that, You know, I had been listening to it for a little while and was like, oh, maybe I should, you know, my first thought wasn't, oh, get your phone out and record this.

And you could hear it kind of walking around. It sounded like almost kind of wandered over and sat next to the fire for a minute because, like, I heard something shuffling around. And then it kind of stopped, but you could still tell that it was around. Like it didn't walk away. I didn't hear it walking away. It just kind of walked, stopped for a while, and was making those sounds, and walked around a little bit longer

and then just disappeared into the woods. And I was by myself. I didn't have any gun on me or anything like that. So I kind of was just terrified. I was like, I'm not getting out of this tent. I'm just going to stay right here and as quiet as possible and let whatever this is pass by. You know, the interesting thing is I shared that audio with my cousin.

She said it sounds like a horse that is cribbing. That's when they like chew on a fence post and suck in air. You know, I listened to a couple videos of horses cribbing. I had no experience with the horses. I've never honestly a little bit afraid of them. But it was making that sound. I was listening to these horses' cripping sounds, and it's

very similar to that, but I was in the woods in the middle of the night. I didn't have a horse with me. So it's, you know, it's interesting that you say hog, because it does have a little bit of a hog sound as well to it. Yeah, and you might have to

answer this one for me, Matt, because I don't, I'm not from Connecticut, and I don't know that well. I don't think you guys actually have hogs out there, though. No. Yeah, we don't have wild hogs. out of here. You know, people have big farms, but, you know, not in the middle of the woods, especially right off the Appalachian Trail. So, you know, I can't be certain. It sounded like it was walking around on two legs, not four. No, I can't definitively say, yes, this was a Sasquatch.

But that coupled with the missing food bear bag that I had tied up, really kind of, of it irked me in the morning when I, when I found the empty bag, or I, it found the bag missing because it was like, was that a Sasquatch just kind of hanging out around my camp? Like, I could have gotten hurt or, you know, it was, it was scary. I was, I was super uncomfortable, that's for sure. Yeah, I would imagine, you know, especially when you're out there alone. I think that almost makes it worse, you know, that in that situation, you're hearing this thing. And the bear bag thing is really bizarre that it took, you know, in this situation,

because you didn't actually see it. But I've had many reports of them taking a bear bag. I had a guy on the show one time. And he talked about, they thought it was a guy at first, stealing their bear bag. And it ended up not being a guy. But it's a very cool audio. I'm glad that you sent it. I'll have to look into that horse cribbing thing. Going back to your property, I know, know all of this kind of happened in 2014. Has there been anything else that's happened on the property? Yeah, so going back to that, the same summer, I did have a vocalization that I couldn't identify.

You know, we were sitting outside. We had a small campfire going, and the coyotes were going nuts in one corner to the field, like coyotes do, which I personally love the sound of coyotes. I think it's kind of cool. but in the opposite corner there was this crazy crazy like scream, howl that I just couldn't place

and the coyotes went dead silent we didn't hear a peep from them again and I was actually trying to find it on one of you, in an episode you played I guess a pretty famous Sasquatch call that's what it sounded like.

You know, we, we have um fisher cats around here too which if you ever heard a fisher cat man that is one crazy sound it's like a woman getting murdered in the woods um it's terrifying by itself but it's you know it's higher pitched and this had a lower tone to it and it's just how quickly the the coyote like i wouldn't expect coyotes to react to a fisher cat and you know to have them just shut up and just not hear a single peep from them after it was was pretty was wild you know it was just one of those sounds that rips right through you you know yeah the the audio that i played was it the

ohio how did it sound like this yeah yes yeah your experience reminds me of uh on the brown's property years ago uh here in washington state they they had these things running around on their property, but as the sun went down, you'd hear the coyotes just going off. And then you'd hear something else, and all the coyotes would shut up. It's very strange. On this property, has there been anything else that's happened, or has this been the bulk of the experiences? For me, in terms of Bigfoot, yes. Like I did mention to you, when we talked previously, I had a UFO sighting that same summer. So that was kind of a wild summer for me out there.

A lot of weird stuff was happening. We had a pool on that property, and I was just kind of sitting in the hot tub and looking up at the stars, and this light appeared, which I immediately passed off as, you know, a plane. But it wasn't really moving. or if it was moving, it was coming

like straight at me. It kind of got brighter and dimmed down a little bit, got a little brighter, dim down a little bit, got a little brighter. And then it'd move a little bit and kind of stop. And then all of a sudden it just shot, like this crazy speed and just vanished. And it was like very odd.

Like, you know, it definitely wasn't an airplane, wasn't a helicopter. Like the flight path of this thing was just crazy out of this world. You know, I was, I was immediately like, that's got to be a UFO. And I avoided kind of bringing up the topic, same with the, you know, Bigfoot. Like we were talking prior to the speaking now, you know, people in the Northeast can be a little bit condescending and rude and judgmental. And I didn't want to have the rap of being the weirdo who's seen Bigfoot and aliens, you know.

So I did keep it to myself. And when I eventually told my brother, he had seen, like, the exact same thing a couple years prior. Like, when I was describing this, he stopped me. He's like, dude, I saw this exact same thing. You know, that was kind of when I was like, okay, that was definitely a UFO. Like, it had to be. I don't know what else it could have been. Yeah, that is weird.

You know, oftentimes on the show we talk about balls of light. People see these weird lights on their property. Most of the time, there is a separate issue. They'll see these weird lights and also see these creatures. When you saw this light, was it more like a ball of light or was it more like a bright craft? Yeah, no, it was more of a light. You know, I couldn't really make out any shapes to it aside from just like a, you know, like an orb kind of. But, you know, it seemed like it was high up, like, you know, a plane cruising altitude kind of.

And from the ground, from where I was, it was probably, you know, I guess, yeah, a softball would be a pretty good representation of the size. Yeah, and I know it's kind of hard to judge size, especially when you're looking up in the sky at something. It is fascinating, though, that people do report these weird lights on their property when Sasquatch seems to be around. and whether they're related or not, I don't know, and I don't think anyone else really truly knows. What I find fascinating about this whole situation is you live near the Appalachian Trail and in an area where a lot of reports do happen. Eyewitnesses will come forward and say, hey, I saw this weird creature out there running around. So it goes on a lot. Makes me wonder, though, all of this kind of took place in 2014.

do you think that they're on the property or do you think that they were just kind of passing through? So I think, you know, I think the Sasquatch was just kind of passing through. You know, as I mentioned, I'm not far from the Appalachian Trail, which to me just seems like a, it could be like a, you know, corridor for these creatures, you know, kind of an easy way to, you know, it's not, there's not a lot of people on it. It's, uh, pretty isolated and they'd be able to move pretty easily up and down the, you know, the coast or, you know, uh, through New England and, um, further down south. So I just, you know, I kind of just think this thing happened to wander into my art, you know,

like just to add a coincidence and, um, you know, there's lots of food around for it and, um, lots of places to hide and where I'm at, you know, it is pretty secluded. We don't really have any major cities near me. You know, as far as, like, I know a lot of people talk about these portals and stuff like that, connecting Bigfoot and, you know, stuff like that with portals and extraterrestrials. You know, I'm not really sure how all that fits together, but, you know, it certainly makes you think. Yeah, it does make you wonder. And there is weird stuff that does get reported.

You know, if there is a travel pattern to these things, which I do think that there is, the Appalachian Trail would be a perfect highway. There's a lot of cover food and your chances of running into someone are probably pretty slim. You know, so it makes me wonder, you know, as far as where do they go? What are they doing? why does this thing show up and you know you have a couple encounters and then nothing happens can i ask you matt what do you think saskwatch is kind of what's your take on it yeah i mean i think that you know a large bipedal figure um i don't think they're necessarily like teleporting places

you know i know there are people out there who believe that i personally don't you know and just an intelligent species that just has yet to be discovered you know i i think they are from this planet i i think they you know i can't say if they are you know evolved kind of from us we evolved from them uh or you know no correlation at all but there's certainly a lot of aspects that, you know, kind of make this a humanoid kind of species. And I think they're very intelligent. It's kind of hard to, you know, compare it to anything. Like, I feel like it's a lot different than like an ape or a gorilla, but it does have its similarities.

Yeah, without a doubt. And I understand where you're coming from. I think, you know, when people see these things, they look like some sort of non-human primate. I mean, they fit the description, but there's a lot of little details that don't quite add up. You know, when you were talking about it's motion, you know, when it was chasing the deer and that real fluid motion, you hear a lot of different eyewitnesses talk about that. I've had Claire and many other eyewitnesses on, but eyewitnesses will describe that real fluid, almost a natural type motion when they're running or, you know, that sort of thing. Can I ask you real quick on this property back in 2014 when all of this was going on, what time of year was it? Was it fall, spring?

Yeah, it was the summertime. Interesting, the summertime, huh? Yeah, you know, and all of this took place in 2014 and nothing has really happened since. And, you know, I agree with you, Matt. Maybe it was just passing through. Yeah, and I think kind of. of another reason to maybe why the area isn't as attractive anymore for a species like that is in the last 10 years we have seen a very large increase in development, especially now

with COVID, you know, being two hours from New York City, we have all these New Yorkers coming onto the, into the area and building big houses and buying up lots of land. And it is starting to kind of turn into what you'd imagine when you think of Connecticut, you know, you're saying, earlier like cities kind of and not much ruralness. At least my area of Connecticut, I can't really speak for the rest of it. Yeah, they seem to kind of live next to humanity, but just on the outskirts. And even here in Washington State, you'll look at old reports and you're like, really, someone had an encounter there.

But, you know, 40, 50 years ago, there was probably nothing there. But they do seem to kind of live on the edge. humanity right on the not too far away, which is strange. Would you want to see another one again? I would. I know, you know, it's not the brightest thing in the world to go out and looking at the look for these. You know, they can be, you know, as people have reported, they can be quite aggressive. You know, so it's not something I would do lightly. You know, I'd probably, you know, have a lot of safeguards in place, but it is something, yes, I would like to see one again. And I'm sure I'd be singing in a different tune if I had been bluff charged or, you know,

had like rocks being thrown at me or something like that. You know, if I was threatened during these sightings, I'm sure I'd probably say no. But, you know, as of this moment, I got to say, yeah, I would love to see one again. Yeah, and I get that, Matt. I can totally understand that. And I know all of this happened to you about eight years ago. I really appreciate you coming on and sharing your audio recordings with us and just taking the time to tell us what happened to you.

Yeah, no, it was great talking to you. And I appreciate you having me on. And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatchfrenicles.com. If you get a chance, check out Sasquatchfrenicles.com. you can become a member and get additional shows. Until next time, everyone.