Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:869 Strange Man In A Ghillie Suit

Episode Date: July 9, 2022

In 1999 Bo and his father were hunting in South Carolina. Bo said "I was in my tree stand and at first I thought it was a bear but it did not walk like a bear it walked like a man. Than I thought it m...ust be a huge man in a ghillie suit. I watched him take his foot and scratch his calf just like a man would. When it saw me it took off so fast. I don't even know how to describe it. It was like on a zipline. It was so smooth and fast." Here is the link for Phenomecon. The event is in September, stop by and say hi.  

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Starting point is 00:00:01 It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind. It either heard me or smelt me, and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up. That shocked me. They don't make people that big. The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything moved like that in my life. What I'm glad? They were screaming at each other in gibberish.
Starting point is 00:00:46 It sounded like a language and they were chumtering away back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forwards. I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet but what I saw were bears. What are you reporting? Jesus, get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about six foot nine. I don't know. Do you see a mouse, sir?
Starting point is 00:01:26 Yes, I'm looking right here. Uh-uh. Hi, this is Carol King from Music City, and you're listening to Sasquatch Chronicles. Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show plan for you. We're going to be chatting with Bo. And Bo actually comes to us from South Carolina.
Starting point is 00:02:27 It's where an encounter happened over 20 years ago, and he was kind of up in his stand and spent like 20 minutes looking at this creature through his scope. So he'll be going into that tonight. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows.
Starting point is 00:02:55 And coming up, September 8th through the 11th is Phnomicon. And it's actually a pretty cool conference put together out there in Vernal, Utah. If you want to check it out, go to phenomenocon.net. Again, it's September 8th through the 11th in Vernal, Utah. And I'll definitely be there. Come hang out, say hi. It definitely looks like they've got a bunch of really good speakers this year. And on Sunday, I'll return and I'll be speaking with Paul.
Starting point is 00:03:25 And here's kind of a clip from our conversation. This happened in Southeast Iowa. Me and a friend of mine, we duck hunt on the wildlife, or it's a Huckye Wildlife Management Area. And I hunted this flooded timber for ducks. It was about probably a half mile walk back into it. And there was a little path that took you, there was fields through there, and they ran up to a levy that we call them slews. You know, they just, it was water that, you know, when the river flooded or, or they'd fill up. up through little creeks or channels or whatever, but we just walked the base of that levy
Starting point is 00:04:07 and it took us right to the timber. We went in there in the dark, so we'd get the decoys set up and everything, but as we were walking back there, we were probably just probably 100 yards from where we do our hunting. Notice, like, somebody walking in the slew, it sounded like somebody walking, and I said to my friend, I said, I hope they got a scuba suit on me, because if they just got chest waiters, they might, you know, go under because it's deep in some spots and shallow and others. But we heard this walking in the slew. And so we stepped up on top of the levee and didn't see any flashlights or anything. So I said, you know, are you okay in there? I heard like two more steps in the water and then it stopped. So we dug flashlights out. And we were looking in the
Starting point is 00:04:56 slew and shined across the slew, it's probably 20, 25 yards across. there was this, it was just massive. This thing, there was a tree that had fallen, and it was like down on the bank and into the slew a little bit. And this thing was like facing that tree, not facing us, but facing a tree, and standing there in the water. Water probably came up to just a little bit on a thigh from what it looked like. It had to be, and this thing was massive.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Again, if you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Bo to the show. Bo, thanks for coming on. Well, thanks for having me. Yeah, I'm happy to have you on here, and I can't wait to hear the encounter. I know this happened to you about 23 years ago in South Carolina, and you can't.
Starting point is 00:05:59 got such a long look at this creature. Can I ask you, prior to having this sighting, what was kind of your take on Sasquatch? I mean, what was kind of your view of the subject? Well, I didn't have any thoughts of Sasquatch. I mean, I've been scared of different things in the woods, you know, growing up, like just coyotes bear or something will get you, but not like monsters or anything like that. And Sasquatch was never on my radar. I mean, the only real Sasquatch that I could have even thought was Harry and the Henderson's. It just never crossed my mind. I never once thought that I was going to have to see it or be in a round one.
Starting point is 00:06:44 And I didn't know much about anything to do with them. Like nowadays, you've got a computer, and if you type Bigfoot, you know, tell you all kind of stuff that people have seen. But back then, you didn't have that. You had a newspaper and you had the library, you know. I appreciate your thoughts on the subject. And I know all of this was prior to your encounter. If you would, take me back 23 years ago in South Carolina, kind of what were you doing and what happened?
Starting point is 00:07:18 Sure. Well, I was hunting a white tail deer in South Carolina. and my dad, he's been taking me every hunting season to South Carolina since I was old enough to sit with him. I sat with him because I was old enough to sit by myself. And then I sat by myself for multiple years and seen all kind of animals, everything South Carolina had to offer, I thought. This one particular day, I chose to go to a stand that everybody really wasn't keen on going to because Screechowell had. roosted somewhere around and was just super loud and scared some of the other people that was there. It was perfect for me and my dad because he could drop me off there and I could walk in an hour early
Starting point is 00:08:06 and he could drive down and get in his stand, which was not too far away, you know, a couple miles down the road. So anyways, he set me out like an hour early to hunt a railroad bed, an old railroad bed. The tracks wasn't even there anymore. One end of it's a swamp. The other end of it is more like it gets higher and there's a field off to the right side of the railroad bed. But I get up to the railroad bed about an hour before dark or for daylight. And I climb up in the ground blind, a box blind actually. There's a ground blind but sat up maybe eight to nine, ten feet in the air right in the middle of the railroad bed.
Starting point is 00:08:46 To my left is like a 75-yard shot to a berm and you can't see past it. and then to my right is a corn pile about 125 yards and I can see past it maybe another 100 yards to a berm and you can't see past that. And the railroad bed itself may be like, I don't know, 50 feet across or something, but you can drive a truck down it. So I'm there super early because my dad had to walk, get all the way to his stand, you know, and be set up before daylight too. So anyhow, I was sitting down in the stand facing the opposite direction. I would have been facing looking where I come in, but I was actually facing looking the other way sitting on the ground, on the floorboard of the box blind with all my stuff in the seat.
Starting point is 00:09:34 I think that's important because if this thing, like most deer come out and check a deer stand, if they're familiar with hunters, they know what a silhouette of a person looks like up there. And I was sitting down in the box blind. below the shooting rail where I had some little notches cut out that I could see the corn pile and off into the woods a little bit. So I had no silhouette like for the little shooting gap that was all the way around the box blind. You know, my head and shoulders wasn't sticking up is what I'm saying. So anyhow, I sat there till daylight and I'm watching through my little holes and nothing is really happening, a bunch of squirrels.
Starting point is 00:10:18 and stuff. And then towards the corn pile side, but off in the woods maybe 50, 75 yards where the tree line gets thick enough
Starting point is 00:10:29 you can't see in anymore, I see something walk out of the woods. And immediately, when I seen it, it was so black that I said,
Starting point is 00:10:41 it's a bear. I put my gun up immediately, because I don't take binoculars. I use the gun that way when I see something through the scope, if it's shootable, I'm already there. So I put my gun up on the shooting rail. I'm still like kneeled down in the floorboard of the deer stem, and I scope it, and it's like going down to the ground,
Starting point is 00:11:05 and then it walks a little bit and stands real tall, like a person. And it's looking away from me, which, by the way, is the same direction the wind is blowing from. So the wind was blowing from that direction towards me. So not only if he checked my stand could he not see me, but he also couldn't smell me because I was downwind, apparently. When he broke the wood line there, about halfway between him and the corn pile, and then another 50 yards further is about a four-acre field, well, this, what I thought was a bear, and then I thought it was a man,
Starting point is 00:11:44 and I'm thinking maybe it was just a bear standing up, and it's now bare. Then it walked into another tree, and I'm looking at it through my scope, and I'm zooming in. I can't tell exactly what it is, but it looks like a gilly suit, like it don't look like bear fur. It looks like something you'd see on like an army movie. Snippers crawling through the dirt, but it's more black and with a little bit of gray and sticks and like maybe some mud and leaves. Like, if it was a gully suit,
Starting point is 00:12:18 it's probably the most expensive one ever made because it had to be tailor-made or whatever was wearing it, was built like a bodybuilder. And I know bears are big. I see a lot of black bears in South Carolina. And I know their shape, you know, and this had, this thing had big shoulders, big back. And, um...
Starting point is 00:12:39 And forgive me for interrupting you, but I wanted to ask you, Bo, I know you're in a concealed position now, kind of looking down at this thing. How far away from you is it? Because you're looking through the scope at this point. Yeah, I'm looking through the scope, and I'm looking through a bunch of scrub oaks where it's thick but not so thick. I can see through there.
Starting point is 00:13:04 I could see through the woods, which was to the right of my corn pile, which was a clear, wide-open path of old railroad bed. So he's to the right of that. And I can see in there like 100 yards and maybe a little less. But he's about, I'd say from my dearestan, he's probably 100. He's past the corn pile and bladed to my right. So he's 140 yards from me. And I got a 20 power, a 4 to 20 power kale's scope on a 7mmy rim in the
Starting point is 00:13:39 Magnum and I'm zooming in I'm zooming out and I'm trying to like see boots or gloves or a hat or something and all I can make out is just the gilly suit like like something I ain't never seen before I don't know they keep going it go down and then move forward a little bit and stand up and I figured that it may be it's a poacher a big old guy big muscled up man in a high dollar suit but there was no gun i didn't think i couldn't see no gun you know what i'm saying so i'm trying to figure if it's a poacher he's going to have a gun but he made his way to the edge of this field and there was nothing in the field because i've been watching it too and i'd be dagged if when he got there and seen there wasn't nothing there he like relaxed walked up to a smaller tree like a, maybe like a sweet gum or something, and he put his hand up in it, and inhaled it for a minute,
Starting point is 00:14:44 and he leaned, he kind of leaned on his left leg and took his right leg and scratched the back of his left leg. And I'm like, that is weird. And he scratched it good, like up and down from knee to the ankle. It's got to be a poacher.
Starting point is 00:15:05 And I've been hunting that stuff. stand quite a bit too. And I don't, I corn my own pile so it ain't like I can sit up in my stand and see somebody standing where it was and having an exact reference to it. You know, it's kind of hard to tell. Like one time I shot a dough that I thought was 150 pounds and she was 110 pounds. So looking at it, I didn't consider how big it was till later. But in my mind, like, well, this guy's to be a person. That ain't, that ain't a bear. Definitely ain't a bear. And then it turned towards my corn pile. So I'm like, well, I'm going to get a good look at it.
Starting point is 00:15:42 And I can see its back and its arms and stuff, but I can't make out his fingers. I can't make out any boots or toes. I can't see its face through this like dreadlock, matte of fur. Can't make out anything except the overall shape of a big man. So it's making us way. It's got like 40 yards from my right. moving to the left to get to the corn pile and it started say it was at 140 yards when he scratched his ankle and he's closing in to a hundred and twenty five yards towards my corn pile he'd blade him towards me but I still got the wind he gets to the edge of the road the the railroad bed and there's a ditch there maybe seven eight foot deep and that's pretty wide and he just disappears completely like in the shrubs and I'm
Starting point is 00:16:37 I'm thinking he should be coming out and I'm up on the rest got my Zoom backed off to like 10 so I can get a good view of it well it didn't come out immediately so I guess he was kind of watching seeing what was happening on the road by my corn pile
Starting point is 00:16:54 but right on my corn pile maybe a little bit maybe a few feet past it he pops out but this is when it got a little like creepy Like if it's a bear or a poacher, that's fine. I've seen both.
Starting point is 00:17:10 You know, I've never seen one a poacher this big or this, you know, have this kind of suit. And if he's a poacher, wears his gun. When he come out onto the road on his belly, he was faced away from me. He was looking into the wind, I assume, smelling the wind, and looking down towards the berm. And I guess he didn't see what he's looking for. and he made a crazy move right then he spun to look my direction. And that's going to sound weird, but I'm just telling you, he spun like a spider, like he was on top.
Starting point is 00:17:49 He went from, and he went 180 like immediately, which freaked me out, and I flipped my safety off because that was, it was crazy how fast this thing flipped around. and it was all stretched out, which was crazy. The way it looked, it was just creepy. And I waved my hand above my scope. I took my left hand off my scope, and I waved, and I was still looking through the scope at it
Starting point is 00:18:18 and got my finger on the trigger, and I'm searching for eyeballs or face, hands. It just, it was weird. It didn't. There was no, like, it was just a lot of fur. It was just a big muscular ball of fur. And when I waved my hand, it's like it froze for a second. It popped up to his knees, like just maybe a quarter,
Starting point is 00:18:45 maybe half the way up, and then froze there for a second. And I'm staring it through my scope going in and out and zooming close as I can get. And all I see is dreadlocks and sticks and leaves and mud. And it bolts the same direction, the same path it came to me. my corn pile, it went the same way. And I'd say it probably had to close somewhere between 60 and 100 yards in about three seconds. Yeah, it's kind of a blur when they leave. I mean, they moved so quickly.
Starting point is 00:19:18 When it took off, was it on all fours? I don't know. It was so fast, like it went from flat on its belly to its knees to standing and leaping completely off the middle of the road to like 30 feet to its left, which would have been my right. And then it ran so quick, it looked like it was on a zip line. So I kind of, the way, I kind of feel like it was running with everything I had. It was getting out of there.
Starting point is 00:19:53 And Bo, when you say it moved like it was on a zip line, what did you, what do you mean by that? Like if you if you ever see somebody coming through the river trees on a zip line, that's what it looked like. Like down here where we are, sometimes people make zip lines and you can reach the end of it and it'll fling you into the river. And when you see them coming from like 100 yards on the zip line with their feet up, just coming through like they're flying, you know, a couple, like eight feet off the ground. that's what it looked like. Yeah, it's pretty common, Bo. I know a lot of eyewitnesses when they describe the movement.
Starting point is 00:20:35 What they'll say is it was like the thing was floating. Man, it really is. It's what I'm talking about. Like, you would think it would be like a, like, jump, jump, jump, or like a, like run maybe a little bit and turn around and look or even a bear. When you scare a bear and it gets gone, That thing gets real low to the ground and it runs hard as it can go. And it looks like just a fast running bear.
Starting point is 00:21:04 It don't look like this. I don't know. I've never seen like what a silverback gorilla looks like running full speed through the woods. But I bet it's pretty similar. Yeah, can I ask you, Bo? Because I know you're an outdoors, man. I know you've grown up hunting and hiking and just being out in the woods. And I know that from talking to you.
Starting point is 00:21:24 you know, see you've seen bears. You know what bears look like and you've, I'm assuming you've run into poachers, but you're looking at this thing and it doesn't really line up with a bear. It's too big to be a bear, too big to be a man, the movement's all wrong. What's kind of going through your mind at this point? Well, I was scared. At that point, I knew it wasn't anything I've seen and I didn't know. young, I just was scared and I was dropped off there. So I knew that my dad wasn't coming to get me for another two hours. So I had to sit there. We didn't have cell phones. Like I said, I had no cell phone or no radio or anything like that. I just had my little backpack full of stuff and he's coming back to get me at 1130.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Yeah, that's the worst man sitting there waiting, especially after you just saw this saying. Can I ask you what, what kind of happens next? I mean, does a creature show up again or when your dad shows up? Do you tell him what happened? So the next thing happened is I sat there until my dad come and he drove right in the same way I walked in. And he pulled up to my stand and was like, well, you see? He got his arms out. And I'm, of course, all the way at the bottom of my stand and headed to his truck when his arms was hanging out. And he's going, what in the heck?
Starting point is 00:22:52 I said, that I don't know what happened, but the best I can tell you is that there's a football player, a big giant NFL football player wearing a gilly suit that was poaching without a gun. That's all I knew to tell him, because I didn't know, no, I didn't know, you know what I mean? So he called the guy that we were leasing from, which was the leaser of the whole hunting camp, His name was Mike Green. He was actually a game warden at the time. And he called him up and told him that I seen a poacher. So he came over there immediately.
Starting point is 00:23:34 And we're still sitting. No, we was at the Burger King, actually. And he said, I meet you over there. So we went back, met him there. They told me to get up in the stand and tell me where the poacher came from. So they started walking down there. And when this was cool, too. when they got down there, that's when I realized how big this thing was because when it stood up on its knees and they were in the same spot now, two of them standing side by side, both 200-pound men, they weren't as big as this thing when it wasn't even completely standing up.
Starting point is 00:24:10 So I said right there, and they walked all through the woods looking for trails. And the game warden, Mr. Green, he walked through the tree line where it came from and seen two houses over there. So he'd come back and drove over there, knocked on the doors, asked about people fit in the description. A big, very tall bodybuilder. Nobody fit the description. Nobody was even around to hunt. He asked me, the game where I said, well, did he have a gun? I said, well, I'm assuming he had a gun if he's a poacher, but I've never seen one.
Starting point is 00:24:43 And I, like I said, man, I scoped him for 20 minutes. It took, it took him probably 10 minutes to go check the field. and he was downwind of it, which tells you how primitive of a hunter this thing is. He's hunting the wind, and he's hiding behind trees staying low, and then he gets to a tree and looks up and looks kind of around the tree. Then he goes back down and scoopses to another tree,
Starting point is 00:25:08 and the way he got on my corn pile and faced the wind immediately, he's checking, you know, the most... A hunter just ain't going to do that. A hunter, a man looks with his eyes. A man don't hunt. with his nose. So I know that this thing is hunting, and I know that I watched him hunt. I seen how he hunts.
Starting point is 00:25:32 I seen how he moves, and I've seen him scared. Because when I waved, he thought he was the Mr. Hunter, that nobody even knew he was there. And he looked at me, and I waved like, how you doing? You're in my spot. He was busted. I had him. I could have. I could have shot him 100.
Starting point is 00:25:52 You know, I could have used every bullet I had. But looking back, to be honest, I don't think, I do not think a 7mm reming the magnum is going to stop him. Yeah, it's hard to say. I know a 7mm, you know, it's a big round and there's a lot of power behind it. Out in the Pacific Northwest, you'll see people generally hunt with like 30 odd six, you know, because there's trees in the way. and there's a lot of power behind that round. I guess my point is, I don't know, that's a pretty heavy round. Sure.
Starting point is 00:26:24 You know, it's a big round, but I've also shot 180-pound white-tailed deer with it in the lungs and had to trail them a mile. As fast as this thing could run, no way. You could shoot it. It'd be like even if you shot a grizzly with a seven-millimeter, you better be dead right where you're hitting. Yeah, I hear you. Can I ask you, you know, when this creature, so you're looking at it and it doesn't notice really that you're there.
Starting point is 00:26:54 And then it kind of pivots and spins around and pinpoints exactly where you're at. Do you find that strange? I don't think he pinpointed where I was at when he flipped around. I think he pinpointed where I was at when I waved at him. I think when he flipped around like on a dime, like literally flipped around. around, I think he had already looked that way and had smelled that way, and he immediately turned around to get a view of the other way. He decided when he come out to the corn pile that he was going to give his attention to the winded side first. And he only really
Starting point is 00:27:33 looked that way maybe 20, 30 seconds before he flipped my way. The majority of the time I watched him was him coming, closing the distance from that, where the swamines were the swamines. Womp came out and was kind of a hill going to that four-acre field, and then from the four-acre field moving towards my railroad bed and corn pile. I think one of the questions, someone in the audience is probably thinking is why not shoot, why didn't you shoot it? And I kind of know why you didn't, and just from being a hunter, understand why you didn't. But I think it's an important question to ask.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Why didn't you shoot it? Because you can't. You think it's a person. You know, even if you can't see its face like me, it's 100% not an animal. You know after you see it move, you know, like you can tell pretty much what animals, you know, do. And you just know your body, your eyeballs know it. But when you see a person, it's like, yep, that's a person. So it was.
Starting point is 00:28:40 It was. The only thing thrown me off was the way it moved. It was like, I just was like a bear, because I know bears the only thing that's going to stand up over there. In South Carolina, a black bear is the only thing, I mean, deer will stand up, but that's the only thing that color, and even close to that big, which it ain't even close. It's like half, not even, is a black bear. And you can, that they don't look the same to somebody that's seen a black bear like manged up or something, like just real poor and very, very, very, very. little hair. They have pink underneath sometimes that I can see a person, you know, going, oh, this is something weird, but not me. I would know that's a sick bear. Yeah, and I appreciate
Starting point is 00:29:26 you saying that. I'm sure someone out there might have been wondering that. And sometimes hunters get a bad rap, you know, that they're out there slaughtering everything. And that really couldn't be further from the truth. Every hunter I know is gun safety is number one and know what you're shooting and and everything like that. So I really understand why you didn't pull the trigger. There's that moment in your head, you know, where your brain's trying to figure out what you're seeing. And, you know, like with you, Bo,
Starting point is 00:29:55 you're thinking, okay, bear, okay, it's a poacher, okay, it's not that. So there's a lot of process and calculation going on in the head. Plus, it really wasn't threatening you. So I get where you're coming from. Even though I was scared, it was going to have to really threaten me. to for me to shoot it just wasn't that way it was doing its thing and and uh i think i'd never seen it if i wasn't sitting down in my deer stand below the shooting rail if my silhouette
Starting point is 00:30:25 was there i don't think i'd ever seen it have you ever been back to that property since the encounter bow sure haven't um i think it was that year that was our last year there and uh i did kill a six point off that stand and my dad was hunting with me. So me and him both did go back and sit that stand together maybe a month later and I shot a six point there. Six point. Congratulations, man. And there was no sign of the creature. You didn't have any issues. No sign of the creature. And then we lost this property and we ain't been back. So what a cool opportunity though to You know, you had so much time to watch the creature and, you know, having its foot scratch the calf on the other leg. Sounds very human-like.
Starting point is 00:31:19 I mean, it seems like human-like behavior. But what a cool opportunity to really stop and study this thing from an elevated position. I ask everyone, Bo, on the show, and there's no wrong answer. What do you think Sasquatch is? What's kind of your opinion? I'd say Sasquatch is, I'd say it's an animal because a person, I don't think a person would hunt the same way. I think it hunts like an animal.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Knowing that it hunts like a predator animal, I would say it's probably territorial. And I would say that they can get scared too because, you know, I've heard the story of one that was on, I think you had interviewed a guy and it was not scared. Like he thought it lured him into a trap. This thing, when I waved at it, this thing was frozen stiff for like five seconds. He was busted. Just like just in my mind what a poacher would do like, oh crap, I've been caught.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Now I'm going to run. I said, just what he'd done. would you want to see another one? Um, I don't think so, man. I mean, I'm not going to go try to find him. I think, I think, um, what I've told you is a pretty good recipe to find one. You know, if you hunt, if you hunt the wind right and you got a spot where there's pigs and turkeys, um, and steady corn.
Starting point is 00:32:58 I think that, um, oh, and the railroad bed. in a swamp, you put them together, and I think you got a pretty good situation to find one. But just like any animal, man, a bear is not very dangerous, but they kill people. So if there was enough smarts that they're not allowed to be seen by people or something, he would have come to me. He would have been at my deer standing seconds. He would have closed 100 yards like nothing, and probably done some kind of Hulk smash on my deer. stand and just obliterated it. I don't think it's that smart, but the fact that nobody's got a body, if there ain't one hidden somewhere for the government, however they do their stuff, then if nobody's
Starting point is 00:33:45 legitimately ever found a body, that's what's weird to me, is that how could, I mean, they don't just disappear. It's a lot of flesh, and it was stink, you know what I'm saying? People that say they shot them and chased them down, it seems like in a day or two, or a dog would be able to, to go right to it. I mean, it's a big, giant animal. Yeah, that's kind of my, my hang up with the whole thing. Why hasn't a body been found? Why hasn't someone shot one? And if we're just relying on the Pacific Northwest, they're seen all over the world. There's just as many reports in Australia, Canada, China, you pretty much, you know, they're seen all over the world. And that's a part that frustrates me is why we haven't been able to catch up with them.
Starting point is 00:34:35 But, you know, that's my hangout. It's got to live underground in soft dirt like near a swamp. That way it can dig its area really fast. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's the biggest problem is no one really knows where they go or, you know, and anyone who tells you any difference probably lying to you. But there is a lot of reports of them being in caves and in cave systems for sure. Can I ask you, you know, you were 17, 18 years old when this happened to you.
Starting point is 00:35:06 How did this kind of affect your life or did it? It didn't really affect me, you know, and probably because at that time, it ain't like now. If it happened to a 17-year-old boy today, he's going to be on Facebook, telling people about it, social media stuff. You know, there was none of that. I mean, I had a handful of friends that I could tell, and that's it. It, you know, it ain't like you get a lot back from things happening to you back then, you know, and nothing. It happened. Yeah, I was shook up a little bit, and I end up chalking it up to some weird, random creature that I can't explain, that was not trying to kill me.
Starting point is 00:35:52 And I was hunted since. I've been in the woods since. I've never had an encounter like that, and I've been up close on accident to many big animals. It's just a whole different thing. I don't, you know, I wish somebody would get a legit picture of it, but I've seen the one of them walking and stuff. I just don't know. Maybe they're just all look different, but I know what I've seen had so much hair on it
Starting point is 00:36:20 that you couldn't tell where its eyes was. You know, Bo, on the show, we talk about lights all the time. People see these weird balls of light. And I know you're kind of a new listener, but people are definitely seeing these weird lights in the forest. I know you've been hunting your whole life and kind of growing up out there in South Carolina. Did you ever see any strange lights while out in the woods? No. I've never seen any kind of lights.
Starting point is 00:36:47 I've heard people talk about boards and stuff. And I've never seen anything like that. I'm not saying that couldn't happen. I don't know, but I've never seen any kind of like floating, like Baldwin or anything. I've never seen aliens or anything. Yeah, you know, going back to the comment you were just making about its fur and, you know, being a big glob of, you know, hair, when he saw this thing, I've often wondered if that, in a lot of reports, Bo, you'll hear eyewitnesses say it was clean. It was like it just came from the barber.
Starting point is 00:37:21 I mean, it was manicured and just beautiful. And then in other cases, you hear where their hair is all messed up and they're just gross. You know, with Sasquatch, it seems like there's a reason why they do everything. I've often wondered, you know, when witnesses report back, you know, this disheveled and they couldn't see the face and the hairs everywhere, and I've often wondered, why are some totally groomed and why are some not? Like that could have been his hunting the way he set up when it went hunting. It could have pulled all its hair in front of its face to break its face up. I mean, if I go in the woods like that, I like to wear my net hoodie.
Starting point is 00:38:02 And it kind of covers my face, you know, where you can't really see eyes and stuff. I can see maybe that it done that too. Because it was sticks holding different pieces to different pieces, like tied together. Yeah, I think you and I are on the same wavelength, Bo. I mean, that's really kind of where I was going with it, too. They do, like you said, gillies suit, you'd see a sniper, you know, a special operator and the military sniper put together. They kind of do that.
Starting point is 00:38:33 And I've wondered the same thing. Maybe it's more of, to be part of the gilly suit and hide, you know, hide them. Who knows? But it's a very cool account, Bo. really do appreciate you coming forward. I know it happened 20 years ago in South Carolina, and I think it's so cool that you got such a long look at this thing. Well, I can't thank you enough for giving me an opportunity to tell somebody that actually believes me. And it's probably good for a lot of people to hear that you might not want to
Starting point is 00:39:10 shoot it, because it might be more like a person than you think. Yeah, definitely could be. It's good advice. It definitely could be. Bo, thank you again for coming on. Yes, sir. Thank you. And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. If you're going to be in Utah, September 8th through the 11th, around the Vernal area, come by and say hi. I will be at Phenomicon, and I'll include a link as well.
Starting point is 00:39:52 I'll be back on Sunday for the members. Everyone else, until next time.

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