Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:880 Damn Dirty Yahoo's

Episode Date: August 14, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:01 It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind. It either heard me or smelled me, and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up. That shocked me. They don't make people that big. The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything move like that in my mouth. life. They were screaming at each other in gibberish.
Starting point is 00:00:46 It sounded like a language and they were chuntering away back and forwards, back and forward, back and forward. I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet but what I saw were bears. What are you reporting? Jesus Christ, you better. Chair, see ya! Hello? Get somebody out here.
Starting point is 00:01:17 What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about six foot. It's about 60 foot nine. I don't know. Do you see a bouncer? Yes, I'm looking right here. Uh-uh. Katzita, Katsida, who?
Starting point is 00:01:30 You know what? Hey, get a look from that. No touch that. Why did they stop? You're listening to Saskatch Carnacles. Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show plan for you.
Starting point is 00:02:56 We're going to be chatting with Kent. King comes to us from Ohio. and back in 2005, he was just a small boy when he had an encounter with this female creature. Man, 2005 doesn't seem like that long ago, does it? Maybe I'm getting old. We're also going to be chatting with Dennis. And back in 1985, he actually shot one of these creatures. He really didn't know what it was at the time.
Starting point is 00:03:23 I'll let Dennis kind of go into it. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes. at Sasquash Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance to go to Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Kent to the show. Kent, thanks for coming on. No problem. Thanks for having me. Yeah, man. Thank you again. And I know we're going back to 2005. You were on your family's property out there in
Starting point is 00:03:56 Ohio. Take us back to that moment. Kind of what were you doing? and what happened? Yeah, so our family had a property that was down in southeast Ohio, not too far from like West Virginia, a very rural area way out there. And the property was about 127 acres. The house that we were living on was in the front of the property,
Starting point is 00:04:26 about a quarter mile into the woods from the road. and where I had the encounter was actually on the back of our property where there was a creek that came through. And we did normal stuff. We didn't have internet or cable or anything like that. So we were outside a lot. We fished, hunt, road foilers. I mean, just normal country kid stuff. And I was going in the back.
Starting point is 00:04:50 We were building this tree for it that was in the back by the creek. And on the farther end of the creek, there was a large, hill and we were building the fort into the hill kind of like a platform well it was in early september 2005 i was in fifth grade and i was on my way back to that the fort to like a couple days before we had a big storm and a tree branch fell and fell down and busted a hole into the floor so we were going to go fix it and the tools were already out there so it was just me and my dog angel who was a golden lab, best dog in the world. So me and her were just on our way back and the property is very, very heavily wooded, but it opens up into four small fields. We didn't grow anything. It was just,
Starting point is 00:05:39 you know, fields that took tall grass root up to brush hog. On my way back there, you have to crest over a small hill so you can't see the creek until you get over this hill. It was a, you know, nice day, clear skies. And like I said, we had that storm. The come through. So the water in the creek was probably about three foot deep, so not too, not too deep. And the creek was about 12 foot wide, so it's not super, you know, 12, 15 foot wide. So it wasn't, there's just a regular creek. So me and her were walking through and she's a very, very well-behaved dog, never growled, never barked, and less warranted. You know, it was walking with her, not really paying attention, you know, swinging a stick back and forth, just walking. And it takes about
Starting point is 00:06:24 25 minutes to walk from the house to that spot that I was at. And as we crests the hill, she started growling. And I, at first, I didn't really see what, what she was growling at. And she was at attention. I mean, she was growling. And I grabbed her collar because, you know, I didn't want her going after. There are bobcats and coyotes. And very rare, there are black bear.
Starting point is 00:06:49 To my right about probably, uh, probably 40 yards to the right, like just a little bit. I had to turn my head to the right just a little bit. And what I seen was what I thought was a black bear because, you know, some black bears, they differ in color and some of them are a little bit lighter than others. And what I seen was reddish brown hair. And what I thought was a black bear like just sitting there. As I crest the hill, I mean, it happened real quick.
Starting point is 00:07:19 She barked, growled. And as I crest, I seen what I thought was the black bear. And it wasn't a black bear, though. It was something else. And it was kind of squatting down. And to me, it looked like she was like cupping her hand and drinking water out of the creek. And she turned around real fast. And as she turned and stood up in the same motion, but she didn't turn her neck first.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Like she turned her, like the whole body turned. There wasn't much of a neck. She stood up. And I'm saying that she, because I did see breasts. And like I said, I was in fifth grade, so they were the first breasts I ever seen. And, yeah, it was about six foot six, six, seven,
Starting point is 00:08:07 long reddish hair on the top. The top of the head was the hair was probably around, you know, five to six inches up on the top, but then there wasn't much hair on the chest area. And then right around above the waist is where the hair started to get a little more thicker. And the hair around the waist and the arm, they came off the arms were maybe three to four inches and wispy hair. And some of it was kind of like matted up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:08:36 And I could see the face too. And the face didn't have much hair at all around the like, where like a, like a man would have a beard. There wasn't much except for like a, you know, like men will have like a chin strap beard. there was there was kind of like a almost like a chin strap beard almost but very thin and i could see uh like a regular like kind of like a human like a hooded nose that was a little bit flattened maybe maybe like three inches wide or so i couldn't really see ears the hair kind of covered that area i could see the eyes the eyes were sunken back maybe two to three inches but they were I listened to a couple of your shows
Starting point is 00:09:21 and some of them described like 50 cent pieces as eyes but they weren't really round they almost to me the only thing I can really like compare it to is like Japanese people's eyes
Starting point is 00:09:36 kind of almond shaped I couldn't tell if the eyes were color if they were green or brown or whatever but I could see the whites around the eyes as she stood up, I mean, I thought I was going to die. I mean, I heard kind of stories a little bit from, I told you before when we were talking before,
Starting point is 00:09:58 there's an older gentleman that lived on the property. And he was, I mean, he was in his 70s when I was younger. And his grandmother actually was full 100% Iroquois Indian. He would tell us stories. And I talked to you the other day and I said, I couldn't remember what he would call them. well he called him yahus and I don't know if you've ever heard I don't know if you've ever heard them
Starting point is 00:10:23 to like to me Yahoo's were you know people that weren't very smart and but that's what he would call him were Yahoo's and he said you know watch out when you're little you know they'll come and steal children away
Starting point is 00:10:37 and eat them and you know the regular boogeyman type stories but uh you know obviously I thought there were just stories. And so back to what I was saying. Sorry, it's a little, like, jumbled. So when she turned around, we kind of locked eyes.
Starting point is 00:11:01 And that's when I kind of took in all the information and tried to retain as much as I could. But I thought that this thing was going to, I mean, it could have got to me so fast. And it could have ripped my arms off and beat me with me. if they wanted to. I was still holding my dog and she was still going crazy. She looked at me,
Starting point is 00:11:20 looked back at my dog, looked back at me. And she kind of, what I could only assume was like smiled. Like I didn't see all the teeth. I could only see like, she had a huge mouth too. The mouth was,
Starting point is 00:11:35 I mean, she could have bit my arm in half if she wanted. And I mean, it was, the mouth did not look purport. Like it didn't look right. Like it looked. the mouth looked bigger than what the head should have had.
Starting point is 00:11:49 And she, like what I said, she could only assume, like what I could only assume was smiling. And she turned around and on both, planted both feet and jumped across, like I said, 12 to 15 foot and made it across. And where,
Starting point is 00:12:06 like I was saying, where we built that fort, it's a very steep hill. And how I told you before, she grabbed on to the, trees and she was running up the hill and grabbing trees like, you know, left hand, right hand, left and hoisting herself up. And I can, as she was hoisting, I could hear like, like, like, like, grunting. Like if, you know, if we were trying to get up that hill and we were like, ah,
Starting point is 00:12:30 ha, ha, ha. And, and that's kind of what I could hear. And the whole, I mean, the whole encounter was maybe a minute long from the point that she turned around, we locked eyes and she was up that hill and gone. I couldn't believe the athleticism for something like that size to to be able to to just up and gone, to be able to carry that much body weight and to be able to just run and go straight up that hill so fast. Yeah, I want to come back and ask you about the old man that lived on the property. Two questions. How far away from you was this thing? And when you were looking at it, You were looking at the face of the saying, was it more manlike? Was it more like an animal?
Starting point is 00:13:15 I mean, what kind of a box would you put it in? The face was very, I mean, it was almost like you almost took like a, almost like a Native Americanish woman's face with like a little more hair. But the body did not look human. You know, the body, I mean, it was obviously bigger, more muscular. she had boobs. I could see the nipples. I don't remember looking for like a belly button or anything, but the chest was very, very bare, like maybe just a little tiny bits of hair there,
Starting point is 00:13:52 but the chest was very bare. The arms hung down close to her knees, and I could tell the legs just didn't look right. Like the legs looked a little bit shorter than the upper body. The upper body looked longer than the legs. but I could, you know, I could see the muscles through the skin, I mean, through like the hair and the skin was grayish, like kind of darker gray. The face was, I mean, yeah, she just, I mean, it still blows my mind today. And this is, you know, 15 years later.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Yeah, I appreciate you describing that, kind of going into detail. At the point that she took off, how far away from you is she? at the, I think maybe at the most 40 yards, right when you crest that hill, like I said, it's about 40 yards down and then the creek and then right across the creek, there's maybe 30 feet of kind of flat and then it goes like it goes real steep. Yeah, it almost makes you wonder if you ran into like a younger kind of a juvenile. I realize she's huge compared to you. I mean, six and a half, seven feet tall is big.
Starting point is 00:15:04 But, you know, her behavior and then the. that weird little smile as she took off and she left. I mean, she obviously wasn't looking for a fight. She just wanted to leave, you know, and you would think a normal predator's behavior would be, oh,
Starting point is 00:15:18 you know, I have a dog and a human to choose from now. And that really wasn't the case. She left. Yeah, she didn't, like, because I,
Starting point is 00:15:28 like I told you, I listened to a couple of years before and some of them would growl or scream or yell and she didn't, she didn't do any of that. She didn't, to me she didn't show like any sign of aggression and like I said before I listened to a couple of them and these people were talking about their encounters with their creatures and like as eight to 10 feet tall and she was she was nowhere near that size she was like I said maybe six foot six six seven
Starting point is 00:15:54 and I was a tall kid I'm a tall kid and even back then I was tall and I was probably you know five foot something and she wasn't like maybe a couple like a foot and a half taller than me. Yeah, and I want to ask you, you kind of brought it up with this old man that was on the property. So your family buys this huge piece of property out there in Ohio and there's an old man on the property. Explain to me who this old man was. Yeah, we call him old man JJ, old man Jesse Jack. So they got the property from him. And it was 130 acres altogether.
Starting point is 00:16:37 But we bought it. And then he pretty much, he was a family friend. And somehow my step-grandfather knew him. You know, I didn't know the whole story of how they got the property. Because the property's been around before I was born. And they got the property from him. and he grew up around this area of southeast Ohio. And he's been on that property since he was a kid.
Starting point is 00:17:04 And they got the property from him and it was 130 acres altogether. But he stayed on the three acres in the house that he pretty much grew up in. And there was a barn back there as well. And he had a garden and everything. But he would tell us stories when we were kids about the Yahoo's. And he also called him Genesquah, which I, I didn't know really what that meant until I looked it up. Recently, I talked to my cousin, and he recounts more because he spent more time down there than I did.
Starting point is 00:17:35 And I called him like the day after me and you spoke for the first time and just kind of asked him about it. And he remember, like he said that, yeah, old man, JJ would call him Yahoo or Genesquah. Yeah, the Janoskwa. That's the term I ever heard in a while. I felt like Obi-Won Kenobi. That's the name I've not heard in a long, long time. But I know there's a lot of tribes out there that call it Janoskwa. And Yahoo's a term for these things, kind of a term that was used a couple hundred years ago with regard to these creatures.
Starting point is 00:18:09 So interesting that he uses that type of verbiage on this property. Did anyone else ever see the creature? My cousin said that he wasn't 100% sure. I told you maybe five, six years ago he was hunting and he was in his tree stand. And he's seen something off and he pulled up his rifle and he said it looked like a black bear and it was like kind of at the top of this one hill. And he said it looked like a black bear until it stood up and walked down the other side of the hill. And he said he got out of his tree stand immediately and like hopped on his full wheeler and then went that way. But he couldn't find anything.
Starting point is 00:18:46 And that's the same cousin I just spoke to the other day. Yeah, I was curious if anyone else had seen the creature. Can I ask you after your encounter? Did you tell anyone? I mean, did you go home and tell your folks? Like, hey, I ran into some weird creature out there. I realize you're young. Immediately, I ran straight home.
Starting point is 00:19:06 And I was a fast kid, too. And I made it home. I've never ran that fast probably ever since. I got home and told him, yeah, I saw Yahoo. I saw Yahoo. I saw what Jesse was talking about. I've seen it. Obviously, my family is, you know, I'm 11 years old.
Starting point is 00:19:23 And they're like, yeah, whatever. You know, it's in your imagination. You've seen something. You've seen a black bear. It's not what you've seen. Those things aren't real. So, I mean, and they still tease me about it to this day. But, I mean, I still believe what I seen was exactly what I seen.
Starting point is 00:19:39 I don't believe that it was, you know, figment of my imagination. Because I didn't have any, like I said, we didn't have internet. We didn't have cable. So I had the only reference that I had of Sasquatch was from the Disney movie, a goofy movie. when Goofy is taking his son to college and then they stop at the restop and they run into the Sasquatch at the rest stop and it was a cartoon. I mean, you know, I had no other reference to what I seen. Yeah, it really is an amazing account, Kent, and you got such a good look at this creature at a very close distance. And I ask everyone on the show and there's no wrong answer because no one knows.
Starting point is 00:20:20 but what do you think Sasquatch is? I believe maybe it's, you know, like an old world creature, you know, something that's been around for a long, long time. And, I mean, obviously because, you know, the Native Americans have tales of them and they go back so long. And I don't believe that it's a spiritual or a metaphysical or interdimensional. I don't believe any of that. I believe that this is a physical creature that, you know, lives, breathe and bleeds.
Starting point is 00:20:51 I believe that, you know, it's been around for a long time and it'll probably be around for even longer. I mean, if it's people haven't got, you know, there's bodies, haven't bodies recovered or anything like that. So, I mean, they're very smart and very well at keeping hidden. Yeah, and I think that's a fair answer. Have you actually been back to the area where you had this siding? Yeah, last time I was there was maybe. close, like almost 10 years ago because, like, after I graduated high school, I kind of left Ohio. And I haven't really been back to that property since I was in high school.
Starting point is 00:21:33 If you had the opportunity to see you another one, would you want to see another one of these creatures? As long as it's not aggressive. And it's a little bit farther than from last time I've seen it. Maybe in a place I could be protected. But of course, yeah, I would love. to see it just to, you know, just to make that the concrete of what I see and make it, you know, 100% concrete. But I don't want to be alone when I see. I want someone else to be there with me so they can see it too. Yeah, I get where you're coming from.
Starting point is 00:22:05 I really appreciate you coming forward and sharing what happened to you Kent back in 2005 out there in Ohio. It's a fascinating account. And thank you so much for coming on, ma'am. Yeah, I appreciate it. It's, you know, it's good to talk to someone. that doesn't tease you or judge you or, you know, it's a safe space because I did a little research and made sure that, you know, that this would be a place that I'd feel comfortable speaking with and, you know, that you guys seem like the real deal.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Like you guys actually care about people's encounters and you want to hear them out. Appreciate the time. Next up on the show, I want to welcome Dennis. Dennis, thanks for coming on. Yes, sir. Thank you for inviting me, Wes. I'm honored. The honor's mine. The honor is definitely mine to have you on. And I know we're going back 37 years ago out there in Florida. Take me back to that moment when you and your brother shot this creature. Kind of what were you guys doing and what happened?
Starting point is 00:23:19 Okay. Yes, sir. Sure. So what me and my brother doing, my stepbrother, you know, we always hunt. We always hunt a deer kind of illegally at night. And sure, we're not the only people that's done it. Just for the audience, we don't do it no more. We kind of got our lesson talked to us and we stopped all that. But back in those days, everybody ate deer meat, especially our family, so we would want to go shoot deer. So we would go get, we had these hotspots that we would go to. And I was, at the time, I was born and raised down there in Okachobee, Florida. And I now reside in Alabama, Montgomery, Alabama. But during this time, I was in Okentobie.
Starting point is 00:24:01 we lived in Platts Bluff, and we had this little road that came from Platts Bluff that went down. And this little road, Wes, was a, you ever seen the roads like in a pasture where it has the grass in the middle, and then the tire tracks on the side where it's been traveled so much? And it's got potholes in, and it's bumpy, and it's just an old, old little cut through road like in a pasture. This is how that road was. And it was less than a quarter of a mile long. And then it would get to a gate. and then when you got to that gate, you went through it and took a right and he was on pavement.
Starting point is 00:24:35 And when you was on pavement, you would go down a quarter of a mile and hit a highway called 98 that went into Basinger. If you took a left and went up there a few hundred yards, there's a road to the right, a 700A that would leave you to the prairie. What led up to me telling you this was this event was you had an episode 830 that I listened to. And there was a guy on there named James, and he was from a. He said he had an account around Fort Drum, and he also had one on the prairie. And this is what got me back to realizing it. And I just want to go ahead and say this, if I can, Wes, it was you and your show. And just, you know, you're just an awesome, amazing guy.
Starting point is 00:25:15 And I just, there's not enough words to tell you how much, you know, thank you how much what you've done to help, you know, people like me and all these other guests and all these other people that's had these encounters that don't know how to come forward, that don't know how to discuss them without being ridiculed or kicked or, you know, somebody saying something to you are laughing at you. And you've done what you've done with your show and where you've got. And it's all, I just want to tell you, thank you. And it's all because of Sasquatch Chronicles is where I am today coming to you with this. Because to that episode, in episode 873, you had a gentleman on their name, Mr.
Starting point is 00:25:56 David and may he rest in peace. He said that, you know, he thought he shot a man in that episode. And he, at the end, he was talking about, he had talked to a woman and realized, you know, he wanted to hear from somebody that, you know, he was going to make sure that it wasn't a man he shot, that it was a creature. And she assured him. But he said, at the end of that show, he said, is there anybody that can come forward, don't be scared and come forward.
Starting point is 00:26:23 And it was right then and there, West, that I realized I wanted to. come and talk to you about this. And it's just because of you and your show and what you've done, that's where I am. And I wanted to tell you that before we went any further because you needed to know that. That's embarrassing. I appreciate the kind of words. Thank you very much for saying that. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Yes, sir. You're welcome. So anyways, where this incident took place and where that prairie is is maybe five or six miles. But this little back road was on a backside of a ranch coming off a highway 98 out there. West, there's a lot of ranches there. There's a lot of woods, a lot of, we're talking thousands and thousands of acres. There's a bass ranch over there.
Starting point is 00:27:05 There's some Gooseby ranches over there. People from that area know what I'm talking about. And this particular area backed up to some of these ranches. So anyways, it was a hot spot. And it was a place that we knew that we can go get a deer real quick and turn around and come back. So we had this, our dad had this old Willis Jeep. old military will of sheep and it had 916 military tires on it and it probably stood off the ground before you took your foot and stepped in it. I'm going to say anywhere from two and a half to three
Starting point is 00:27:38 foot up above the ground before you could step into it. So there was just something we could crank up and go. It didn't have no roof on it, no nothing. It just had a windshield. And so you could go, we could, if we needed to ride all through the bushes and run and hide or get away from something, we could do whatever, and we had full-wheel drive, so it wasn't no problem. Doing what we do, when me and my brother done this, whoever was shining the light would shine the light and hold it on the deer, and man without the light would be the shooter, and he would take the gun and rest it on the man's shoulder that was holding the light, and that man could take the shot. That way we knew we were accurate, and we could get it. You know, shoot the, shoot the deer,
Starting point is 00:28:21 get it, and take it, put it in the Jeep and go. And I'm more than, to say this was probably, I know it was during the fall. I'm going to say October's maybe, it wasn't that cold and it's not cold in Florida anyways. So it was around October when both season and stuff kind of opened up and, you know, when the deer were getting started. And it was kind of before a rifle season. I remember it was before rifle season, but we wanted to get a deer. So before rifle season opened. So we took our little journey down this road and to let you know another thing how good and how important it is on how
Starting point is 00:28:58 we was real careful about what we was doing with us, West. We shot every day. We shot a 22 magnum and a 30-30 rifle. And down there in Florida, you didn't really need nothing no bigger than that. 30-30 was a good brush gun.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Something you could take a pickup, take a quick shot and hit. And a 22-magum it was really good at night to shoot with because it's quiet. And you could pop the deer in the head and be done with it. So we went down this road and we're just taking it easy going down there. I'm on the passenger side. My brother, Duane, he's driving.
Starting point is 00:29:32 And we're both 16. We're the same age. He's my stepbrother. So we're easing down this road and I'm holding the spotlight on my right outside the Jeep there. And I'm looking and we just go real slow and we creep all the way down this little, this little road all way and we get to the gate. We don't see nothing. Didn't see one thing. And he said, all right, let's turn around and go back.
Starting point is 00:29:53 We don't see nothing. we'll go home. I said, that's fine. Let's do that. And so he said, will it be your shot? And so he turned around and we was headed back. And before I get any further, we didn't take the 22 magnum with us that night. We took the 30-30 because we didn't have shells for the 22 magnum. And, you know, our dad wouldn't give us none of his, so we always had to buy our shells. And we were out and we didn't have none at the time. So we had a 30-30 rocket with 150 grand. and bullet. And that's what we was carrying. So we knew
Starting point is 00:30:28 we had to make something. If we was going to shoot something, it had to be quick and be done and get out of there. So we turned around and come back and he's easing down this road. He's shining. And all of a sudden, about middleways of this road, he says, I got eyeshine. He stops. He puts it in neutral, but he leaves the jeeper
Starting point is 00:30:46 running. He looks over and he's looking at it. He said, hurry up, get up here, get it. Get ready. And so I turn around and look, Wes. And when I turning around and look, I'm looking up. We're standing up. And I'm, we're, I'm five foot. Actually, I'm six foot, but at the time I was five, five foot something. I'm standing up. So is my brother. And I turn and look and I see two of the biggest eyes I've ever seen in my life. And when I say huge west, we're talking just huge, bigger than, bigger than golf balls, how huge they were.
Starting point is 00:31:20 and I'm looking and I said What do you want me to shoot? He said, shoot it. He said, shoot it. Shoot it. I looked up and I said, what do you want me to do? You want me to shoot that owl? And that's kind of funny because I actually thought
Starting point is 00:31:36 the way I was looking at it, West, before I moved, I was looking at. I thought it was an owl off off a tree limb. He said, no. He said, no, quit playing around. I said, well, I'm not playing around. I said, what do you want me to do? He said, shoot it. And then when I turned West to put the rifle on his shoulder, that's when I could see the body of this creature.
Starting point is 00:32:01 And it was the biggest thing that I've ever seen in my life. I mean, this thing was huge. And I could see the outline of like the top of the head and then the shoulders and then coming down. So all the way down to the chest part right there, and that's about all I could see. But that cue beam was so bright. He had that creature blinded very well. So I'm looking. I said, it looks like a man.
Starting point is 00:32:30 What is that? He said, it's not a man. It's covered in hair. He said, shoot it. I said, well, is it a bear? He said, no, it ain't a bear. It's too big. He said, shoot it.
Starting point is 00:32:41 And he kept seeing it. So I took the gun and I laid it on the shore. When I did, I had to tilt the gun up a little bit, Wes, up a little bit. to where the eyes were, and I put this thing right between the eyes. And we were 50 to 60 feet, 20 yards or less from this creature. I caught the hammer back. I said, I'm ready. He said, go.
Starting point is 00:33:05 I pulled the trigger. When I did, I ejected so fast, you know, I shot a second time. Whether that second shot hit or not, I don't know. But he said, you got it. It's down. And then all of a sudden, he ain't no more said that and got that out. out of his mouth. He turned to his left and looked over his left shoulder.
Starting point is 00:33:28 And he said, oh, crap, we got to go. We got to get out of here. Hold on. I said, what is it? There ain't no lights. He said, we got to go. We got to go. And he threw it in gear, and he hauled butt.
Starting point is 00:33:41 And he just left. And man, he liked to threw me out of the Jeep. And he was just flying down this road. We was hitting them pothose bouncing. It took everything I had to hold on. And we got out of there. We headed back to the house. And on the way, when we got off that road and onto a gravel road, he said, we don't need to talk about this.
Starting point is 00:34:00 We don't need to say nothing about it. And I said, well, what was it? He said, I don't know. He said, all I know is that had hair on it. I said, well, what did you see? He said, I don't want to talk about it. And he didn't want to talk about it at the time. And finally, later on, I got it out of him.
Starting point is 00:34:17 But what he had seen West when he turned to his left, there was another creature. there. And it has started coming up towards us. So whether or not it was trying to flank us, I don't know. But the creature was coming up and pretty, apparently he was coming pretty quick. And it frightened him. I never saw it. I never saw what he was looking at. You know, my ears are ringing, you know, I'm, I don't know what I just shot. I mean, it looked like, it looked like the biggest pumped up on steroids of a Hulk of an Andre de giant that you've ever seen in your life. And that's kind of what happened with.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Yeah, I wanted to ask you about your brother. You know, did he ever kind of describe what he saw? I realize all of this is happening very, very quickly. Shot goes off. He turns and sees something coming tall and hairy. But did he ever kind of go into a description as far as what he saw? Or did he just kind of leave it at that? That was pretty much end of it.
Starting point is 00:35:20 But later on, later on, like when we left, later on, you know, I got it out of him. He said there was another one coming that had hair. And you got to understand, we don't know what we're looking at. We don't know what this is. And he said he saw another one, but it was coming towards the Jeep, the back of the Jeep. And it was coming to us. And I reckon it started running. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:43 He said it was coming quick. And that's when he turned and was trying to get out of there. Yeah, what a scary. night, you know, when you were looking up at it and you'd mentioned the eyes, kind of this yellow, orangest eyes that you were looking at, do you think that they were glowing or it must have been eyeshined from, I guess, from his spotlighting? Yes. Well, he had it blinded with the cue beam. So this is, in other words, he was looking to his left while he's driving. He turns and puts the cue beam on it. So he's got the cue beam out, the driver's side left shining this creature.
Starting point is 00:36:20 So when he stopped and put it neutral, and I turned, I looked to the left. So the creature was to his left. And that's when I seen the eyes. And yes, they were a yellowest amber kind of color. And they was just huge west. I couldn't make no facial features out. I couldn't, you know, if the light was so bright, I'll tell you what it reminded me of. I saw a video.
Starting point is 00:36:45 And you've seen this video. And I know probably the fans have too, to get, you know, all the fans and listeners. you remember the video where the kids were out there at the bombfire? I don't know where that was, what mountains that was in. But the kids were out there and some bonfire. Remember there was an albano white-looking one that come up and turned and walked away, and they actually called it with the camera. Do you remember seeing that video on YouTube?
Starting point is 00:37:11 The face was, and those eyes, how big the eye sockets were and how the face was, and it kind of looks like there ain't really a face there, but it's like a skeleton face. Does that make sense? Yeah, I think I know the video you're talking about. It wasn't a bunch of kids. It was in Pennsylvania. And if you go to YouTube, type in White Sasquatch, Pennsylvania,
Starting point is 00:37:32 I believe it'll come up. But he was running around on his property. He hit it with the spotlight in the face. And you see the face kind of scrunch down and then it takes off. And I know for the longest time, everyone thought that was a guy in a costume. I was like, that's not a guy in a costume. Because when you slow it down, that face scrunches. but I do know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Exactly, Wes. And I'm glad you said that because that's what I was seeing with the light, but at 20 yards. I was seeing that big like that, but it was just huge. And I don't, he never talked, my brother never talked about seeing any facial things,
Starting point is 00:38:12 but he could tell it was covered in hair. And he knew it was big because he could see more of what I was looking at. But when I turned, I saw, like I said, from the head, probably down to the waist. But I saw the heads and coming out in the shoulders and just how big this name was. And it was just, it blew my mind. You know, me and my brother are avid hunters.
Starting point is 00:38:33 And never in our life had we seen anything, anything like that out in them woods. Nothing like that. Yeah, and you guys are in a CGA5 at this point kind of standing up. I mean, how tall do you think this creature was? I'm going to say, Wes, that this thing was probably, if the Jeep, the Jeep was anywhere from two and a half to three foot, and I'm five foot, I mean, at that time I was probably five foot something, because I'm six foot now. I'm going to say, I'm going to say the creature was every bit of eight foot, maybe eight and a half, give and take. I wouldn't be scared to say that. So after this encounter, do you guys go home and kind of tell anyone, and do you guys ever go back?
Starting point is 00:39:17 we don't tell no one. We kept this a secret. And to tell you, the only time our mom and dad ever knew about this, we talked about this. Me and him was talking about this just past Father's Day. He came up to visit, came up from down there to visit, and we talked about it. And that's the first time they ever heard about it. But no, we didn't. We never talked about it.
Starting point is 00:39:41 It just, there's something we just kept to ourselves. Yeah, and I get it. I mean, what do you say at that point? You know, I mean, what do you say you shot at that point? I get what you guys kind of kept up between yourselves. And I wanted to ask you, did you guys ever go back there? Because I know hunting was a big part of your guys' life. Yes, we did.
Starting point is 00:40:02 We went back the next day. They just happened like on a Friday night, possibly, if I remember, because it was the weekend. And I know we wasn't doing nothing. Yes, we went back the next day. We never saw nothing. There wasn't nothing there. I couldn't, I didn't see no blood. but my brother told me, you know, he said he heard it.
Starting point is 00:40:20 You know how you probably can't hear it if you're shooting the gun, but somebody else can. And it made that quop. And a lot of people know what I'm talking about when you shoot deer, you know, it makes that whop. And then the sound comes behind it. And he said he heard it. He said it just went quop.
Starting point is 00:40:37 And it was solid. So with 150 grain bullet at that close, I mean, you know, I didn't see it after I shot, I didn't see it. So apparently he said you got it, it fell. But then he heard a ruckus, and then he turned and looked to the left, and that's when apparently just other creature was coming. I don't know, Wes, if he was flanking us. I think what we done was interrupted their hunt,
Starting point is 00:41:04 because that was a hot spot. There was always deer there. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it sounds like you got a headshot. I mean, no noise afterwards, and that other one coming, you know, I think you guys are probably in big trouble if he didn't take off. You know, a lot of times when people have these sort of encounters on their property and they shoot one, they have problems afterwards. These things have some sort of, you know, weird revenge streak.
Starting point is 00:41:30 But in this situation, nothing ever happened afterwards. No, nothing ever else because this property, like you said, it was a back of a ranch. And this road that just went down, you know, it was just like a little private road that people that live, out there could go down if they wanted to cut across to Highway 98. And so no, we never, you know, we, yeah, we continue to hunt, but nothing, nothing around there. We never saw nothing else around there, never heard nothing around there. We never had anything come up by our house or nothing, Wes, anything. Yeah, and I know you were just kind of a dumb kid at this point.
Starting point is 00:42:11 We were all that age. We were all dumb kids at that point. And, you know, you're looking at this thing. And I realize your brother's saying, shoot it, shoot it, shoot it. And I'm all for killing one. So don't, there's no, not feeling, you know, a tug at my heartstrings at this moment. So I'm not feeling terrible that you shot at what. My point is, did you get cut up in the moment?
Starting point is 00:42:33 Why shoot it at that point if it's not really being aggressive? Yes. Well, well, here's the thing. Yes, I was caught up in it because it's, It scared him so bad. His voice, shoot it, shoot it. And I was caught up in it, you know. I was like, and I was thinking in my mind, I said, well, you know, it's covered in hair and it's looking at us.
Starting point is 00:43:00 And he's saying, shoot it. And my brother's just saying, shoot it, shoot it. And yes, yes, yes, Wes, I was caught up in it. I just turned and I put it on it and I shot. Yeah, I understand. And 37 years later, would you do anything different? I thought about that a lot, Wes. And at that point in time, me and my brother were very competitive with each other.
Starting point is 00:43:27 You know, we were always trying to out shoot each other. If you miss that deer, you know, who shot this deer, how many dudes you get? We was always competing against each other, you know. We, you know, we're shooting and all this. And I'm going to say at that time, I don't think I would have changed nothing because I believe it was scared. When it scared him, it was scared me. I reckon it was just, there was so much adrenaline in my body.
Starting point is 00:43:57 You know what I'm saying with? It's just so much adrenaline pumping going at this time when you're seeing this and doing this and you're not realizing what you're looking at. And in my mind, I'm thinking big hairy, what I mean, could it be a monster? I mean, could it be a, what could it be? If we didn't have to go, Wes, we would have got out and walked over there. I promise you that. If we would have stayed without having to hurry up and go,
Starting point is 00:44:24 we would have walked over there and seen what it was. I believe you. I think you guys probably would have. You know, after all these years, and I know at the time you didn't really know what you were shooting, but now that you've had time to think about it, has it affected you at all over the years? It has in a way
Starting point is 00:44:42 Because at the time I didn't know that I was looking at a big book And at the time This is what's important about your show West That just leads up to I think it was the episode Of Sijap Anabi Or Honobi however they say that
Starting point is 00:45:01 That I saw That the guy explained the eyeshine And when he explained that It all started coming coming to me. After I realized, after I started putting everything together, after listening to some more of your episodes
Starting point is 00:45:16 and putting everything together, I finally realized what I've done and what has happened, what we've seen and what we did. It bothered me, it did bother me, I'm not going to lie, it bothered me for a long time
Starting point is 00:45:28 because I didn't really know what it was. But I took my brother's word that it wasn't a man because there wasn't nothing there. So if it would have been a man, it would have been laying there. Do you know what I'm saying? but there was nothing there.
Starting point is 00:45:43 And how can you shoot something like that and it hit and it not be there? Yeah, it makes you wonder. I know the episode you're talking about with the siege, the brothers told me that. They shot one and it dropped and the rest of them came out and grabbed it and dragged it off. And I do think that goes on with these creatures. I want to ask you about this picture you sent me and I'll post it underneath this episode so everyone can take a look at it.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Before we get into all of that, let me ask you, and I ask everyone, Dennis, what do you think Sasquatch is? What's kind of your opinion? Yes, sir, and I knew you were going to ask this question, and I tried to prepare myself for it. And I believe they're fresh in blood. I know.
Starting point is 00:46:28 I saw one. I'm a believer. I've seen it. I think there are going to be a being, some kind of a being, Wes, because I've heard people say, that, you know, we know they have a language. I've heard people say that they have a religion
Starting point is 00:46:43 and they do this and they do that. I mean, I've heard several different things, but I believe there's some kind of a being because they're so intelligent, they're so smart. We don't know what they're capable of doing, but I'm going to say, I think there's some kind of an ancient being of some kind of a people
Starting point is 00:47:03 because apparently they have some kind of human DNA in them. that's where I am with that. Father, as far as just an animal, I don't think so. I don't think that's going to be the case. I think there's some, there's going to be some kind of a lost tribe, of some kind of being or something that's capable of doing something that I don't think we're ready to find out. That's how I'm going to answer that question, Wes. Yeah, well, I appreciate your feedback.
Starting point is 00:47:33 You definitely could be right. You could be right. There's something very strange about them. Tell me about this picture. And again, I'll post a picture underneath this episode. It looks like a Game Camp picture. Definitely looks like there's a creature there in the corner. And it looks like the eyes are kind of lit up a little reddish.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Tell me about this Game Game Game Game Game Picture. How did you come about it? Well, my brother, he has his own business down there. He started Kasimi, Kasimi Hunting Fish. Kissimmee River hunting fish, and he's a guide. And he does a lot of hog, he takes people out hog hunting, gator hunting, fishing and stuff like that, you know. Big time on the hog hunting, though, because you can do that all year round.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Deer hunting, you have to wait, of course, the gators, you have to have, you know, make sure you get your tags and permits for that. He set up his cameras, and he got this picture, and he told me about it, because me and him got to talking about it, because I had told him that I was probably going to try to contact you, and there was a very good possibility that I might be going on the show, know, to tell him about what happened when we were 16. And he said, well, look, I got a picture I want to show you.
Starting point is 00:48:43 I said, okay. He said, we got this on our game cam. And he said, I've seen them. I know they're there. I said, okay, well, we both know the real. He said, yes, he said, but he said, I know when they're around. He said, because my hogs have come out. And he said, when they come out to feed, you know, hogs are real skittish anyways,
Starting point is 00:49:04 especially wild pheral hogs. You have to be real careful and slow and easy around, you know, when you're hunting. When these hogs come out, if they come out and they're just taking their time and they feed slow, you know, and they're hanging around and they're comfortable, he knows it's okay. But when these hogs come out and they're jumping and they're looking and they're running and they're trying to run back in the woods and then running back out and moving, he said he knows that's when the creatures are around. So he just, he sent me that picture and how he got, I reckon it was just the luck of the drawl how he got it. But that was on one of his game cams on one of the places he has leased. Yeah, and like I said, I'll post a picture. And it's a cool picture.
Starting point is 00:49:43 I'll definitely throw it underneath this episode if people want to check it out. God, I'd love to chat with your brother. I wanted to ask you in that area where you grew up and you shot this creature, did anyone else in the family ever have an encounter? I know you had mentioned your real brother had seen something. Tell us about that if you would. Yeah, sure. I'm the oldest of five boys. I have, you know, four real brothers. And so Mark is my third one down. And John's below, is the next one below him. And Mark was probably nine at this time. John was eight. And they were with our cousin, who was about nine. We had a tree out there in the back of the pasture on all of our family land back there. And we had fruit trees everywhere, you name it, grapefruit, pink grapefruit, white grapefruit, tangerine. neighbors, we had it all.
Starting point is 00:50:36 They were going back there to this tree, we called the run-up tree. And it's a big old live oak tree that was slanted, probably at a 45 or something, you know, where you could run up and go up and climb, and we always played in that tree. Right beside that tree was a big fruit tree, and you couldn't reach the fruit from the ground. You had to climb up there and get the oranges off of it. They were going back there to play, and they saw this thing, and they all dove down in the grass. Mark got them to go down in the grass, and they laid there, and they was looking at it. through the grass at this thing, and he was picking the fruit and putting it in his arm.
Starting point is 00:51:08 He said this creature was an orangeish red color. He said it was about eight foot tall, and he said this thing was just feeling his, he had his arm turned, you know, like you would hold a baby, but he was putting fruit in it. And it kept turning around, looking towards their way, and he could see it sniffing. He could see the nostrils of its nose going up, and it was, you know, smelling, trying to smell them. He knew the creature smelled them, but he didn't. He didn't see him. And he said this creature done it about two or three times.
Starting point is 00:51:41 And after he got an armful, he just turned around and walked off. Like, nothing ever happened. So he saw this creature. You know, he never told me until 2019. And he called me. And he said, look, I want to tell you something. And he said, I ain't never talked about this. And he told me.
Starting point is 00:51:58 And I just couldn't believe it. I never seen him or heard them around there when I was growing up and there. I moved to Alabama in the 89. So, you know, after I grew up and graduated high school, I've come here. So I've been here ever since. But he said he's heard him. He's heard them out there making alcohols and vocalizing a little bit. But that's about it.
Starting point is 00:52:19 He said he'd never seen him again. He said he could smell them and hear them, but he never seen him again. It's a really cool account, especially the detail about the oranges, you know, of stacking the oranges. and because you'll hear a lot of people who claim these things are running around on their property and all their fruit gets wiped out. All the fruit trees just get wiped out in one night and it's a mystery. And to hear it how it was kind of collecting the fruit because I've wondered, do you know, do they sit there and eat it?
Starting point is 00:52:50 Are they taking it and leaving it? I mean, they must be taking it and leaving it. It's a very cool count. I really appreciate the fact that you would come on and share what happened to you. I know you're nervous, but to share, you know, everything that happened to you and then with your family on this property, thank you so much for your time, Dennis. It was awesome chatting with you. Well, yes, sir, and I just, I appreciate it, Wes, and I was a little nervous. I hope it turns out okay. You know, I haven't, you were the first one I wanted to talk to, and tonight on this show is the first time I've talked about this in 38 years, however long it is, 40 years, 38 to 40 years.
Starting point is 00:53:30 I, you know, only me and my brother talked about it and nobody else. You're the first one I've come out and told us, and I wanted you to be the first one. And when you called me, I was just honored. And I'm just so thankful. And I feel so good about getting it off my chest. And I feel better, you know, knowing that I know what it is and what it was I shot. You know, I got a little peace about it now. And knowing that, you know, that's what it was.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Thank you, Wes, and I appreciate you. Like I said, I'm honored and I enjoyed it, and just thank you for having me. Thanks so much, Dennis. The honor was mine. Man, I got to keep that guy around for my ego. I want to fill him down. I'll chat with Dennis. Just having fun.
Starting point is 00:54:15 And that's it for tonight. Everyone, remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatchch Chronicles.com. And if you had a chance to check out, Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Have an awesome week, everyone.

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